WEBVTT - Jodie Discusses Coming Back From Rock Bottom 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.200 We got get you every morning, every day, every lady, gentlemen, 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:09.280 Adelaides Journey, good day friends, Thank you so much for 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:10.400 choosing this podcast. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.000 We feel like you're heading in a good direction. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.560 We spoke quite openly yesterday about my journey with anxiety 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.360 and my unhealthy relationship with anxiety. Joe, you did something 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.599 quite phenomenal recently, and that is to speak about your 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.600 journey with mental health, et cetera, and where you were 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.240 and where you've got to right now. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:30.440 Yeah, And I think the only reason I spoke about 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.640 it is because I just want to give people hope 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.720 if they are in the depths of despair at the moment, 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:36.080 that you can get out of it and you can 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.680 fight your way back, because life is glorious, so it's 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.080 worth fighting for one hundred percent. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.720 And as we know, there are services available such as Lifeline. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.960 On thirteen eleven fourteen, But this was a really really 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.720 special part of the show this morning. We had an 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.960 open chat about anxiety defects, what it actually is, and 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.480 I told you my relationship with anxiety, which is actually 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.840 pretty unhealthy. So I think from that conversation yesterday, overwhelming 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.160 thing that I got from that is it's just good 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.000 to talk. Yeah, it's really good to talk. And we 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.080 took some really really nice calls. You said, let me 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.360 sit on it for a day. Yeah, and I'll share 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.760 my relationship with anxiety. So that's what you're going to 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.000 do with right now. Yeah, how are you feeling about this? 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:15.480 A little bit nervous? 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.280 To be honest, I did sit on this for a 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.160 little while overnight because I've never spoken about this publicly really, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.840 but I think it's important to do so because the 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.800 one thing I've learned about this position is that it's 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.200 important to use your voice to try and help other people. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.200 And so with what I'm about to say, if that 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.600 helps one person, two people, great. So if you take 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.520 it back to the start with anxiety, for me, I've 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.720 always been a worrier, and then I was always worried 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.199 if I wasn't worried about something. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.960 So it's like this perpetual cycle in my mind. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:44.880 Yeah, that's an unhealthy pace. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:46.160 Is great? Is it? 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.560 And then that I think throughout adulthood and a divorce, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:55.240 that sort of worry morphed into an anxiety disorder, and 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.760 then that developed into some panic attacks. And I know 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:00.680 you've had this feeling as well, but when I started 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.240 working in television, I was so afraid of making a 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.200 fool of myself that I would work myself into such 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.959 a frenzy that I'd have panic attacks live on air. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.480 So that's when I first started to speak. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.560 To professionals and counselors and just try to get to 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.080 the root of it, like what's at the bottom of 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.880 all this? And it's a pretty ordinary feeling when you're 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.160 standing there live on TV and your heart's racing and 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.880 you can't speak, and it's like I got really good 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.160 at masking it though, So that was. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.839 The upside, which is incredible, because you can't talk. No, 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.120 your breath gets out of whack. Yeah, can I take 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:29.160 breaths in? You can't take it. 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:30.280 It's it's horrible. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.200 So after years and years of that anxiety, it really 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.600 later developed, due to a series of circumstances, into a 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.000 deep depression and I'm talking like a debilitating and can 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.639 barely get out of bed depression. And just to context 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.120 it a little bit, at that time, I was working 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.240 in an environment that was full of sharks, and the 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.760 sharks were just circling and none of them wanted to 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.799 see me do well, all of them wanted to see 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.800 me drown. And sometimes those sharks would turn on each other, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.760 and then other days those sharks would turn on me. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.840 And so that basically got to a point where I 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.080 went and saw someone again and they prescribed antidepressants, which 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.680 there is a place for antidepressants, there's no question about that. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.800 They can help people, but they weren't for me, Like 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.280 I felt like they turned me into a crazy person, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.680 and to the point where my husband said, Okay, I 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.000 want my wife back, like where are you. I just 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.760 sort of made me dead behind the eyes, he would 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:28.600 describe it. And so this created the perfect storm. And ironically, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.079 I knew you I was aspiring, Like I knew things 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.919 were getting really, really bad, and so I'd gotten to 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.400 the point where I was like, I'm going to check. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.400 Into a health retreat and that will fix all my problems. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.640 So the day I went to check into a health 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.600 retreat was the day there was an event and I 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.000 seriously hit rock bottom and it was public and it 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.560 was spectacular, and it was the moment where I had 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.800 to make a choice whether I wanted to drown or 0:03:54.440 --> 0:04:00.160 hit the bottom of the poll. And you have a choice, 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.480 and you can't drown because you've got little people that 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.960 depend on you, So. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:07.760 You've got to kick up, don't you. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.360 You've got to push off the bottom of the pool 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.000 and come up for air eventually. And that means and 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.480 it's boring and it's laborious, but you have to go 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.280 to the dark places that you don't want to go. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.680 To and work out why you're feeling the way you're feeling. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.880 And for me, that meant doing a lot of work, 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.640 a lot of work on myself, a lot of counseling, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.039 a lot of talking, a lot of shitty stuff that 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.039 you know, you just wish you never had to do, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.240 but it's so worth it in the end. And that 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.160 would be my message to anyone who's been through anything similar, 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.360 talk about it, to find your counselor find your psychologists, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.640 find your psychiatrists. I found a little spiritual hippie friend 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.120 and named Gregory, and he was wonderful and he just 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.960 put things into perspective. He's like, you're a tiny, tiny 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.320 speck in this universe. Stop thinking is so important in 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:57.479 the whole scheme of things. You know, yeah, yeah, move 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.640 your body. Exercise that you and I are both advocates 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.479 for this, It means everything doesn't it fit not just 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.719 for your physical health, but your mental health. Fill your 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.800 own cup self care And I don't mean buy a 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.119 nice candle, like self care is doing the hard stuff 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.680 and the meditation and all those sorts. 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:12.520 Of mindfulness things. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.400 And the final thing I would say on this is, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.520 do not try and mask how you're feeling. Don't try 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.160 and self sabotage, don't try and cover it up, don't 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:23.479 try and dull the emotions. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.080 You have to feel them to get through it. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.839 And I don't like talking about this today, but I 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.320 can talk about it because I'm a different person sitting 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.440 here in front of you, doing this job that we 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.400 love and loving my life than I. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:36.960 Was back then. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.760 It feels it almost feels like I'm looking down on 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.120 myself at that time, like just going, babe, what are 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:42.599 you doing? 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.880 Like what what are you doing to yourself? 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.280 So that's I think that's the only reason I can 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.279 sit here and try and talk about my experience to 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:52.000 help other people. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.200 And you're the perfect example of coming out the other 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.680 side a better person. Yeah, a wiser person. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.560 I'm bloody resilient. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.039 I have to say that, Like I kind of you 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.240 don't know your own strength sometimes until you go through 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:06.359 something really really hard. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:08.400 So I'm proud of myself for that. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:09.360 Yeah, and you should be. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.719 I'm proud of the person I've become, proud to sit 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:12.120 here with you. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:12.560 Yeah. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.920 Absolutely, and you should be proud of those things because 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.240 this is what you're doing right now is a really 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.839 really good thing. I would feel like there's absolutely people 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.040 in a situation right now thinking well, it's. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.240 It's not going to get better from here. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.320 Well it does, it can, it does. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.640 I'm so glad you said that because your dark day, 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.000 as you think there's no tomorrow, there's always a tomorrow. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.560 The sun's always going to rise tomorrow, and it does 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.200 get better. That's the thing. You can feel one way 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.000 one day, and then three days later you can feel 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.040 a completely different way. So you just got to write 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.000 it out and get through it. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.920 Well done and seriously, because it's not easy to talk 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.520 about that space and what the process and coming through 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.839 is really really brave because now you're helping other people. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:49.600 So well done. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.800 Well that's my story, It's part of who I am. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.680 You know, I wouldn't change it. I didn't enjoy it, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:59.359 but it's made me a better human. So yeah, But 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.400 as you said, just keep going, Just keep going. If 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.360 you feel like it's all too hard and it's all 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.680 too much, you'll get through. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.480 It's just simply poured a heart out just before and 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.760 told us your story. We've been speaking over the last 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.120 couple of days about anxiety, mental health, and everything in 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.160 those sorts of areas, and it's a tough space to 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.200 talk about. Spoke about it yesterday, my relationship with anxiety, 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.120 and then just then you took us through your journey 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.600 with mental health, depression, etc. And it was powerful. Joe's 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.840 really really powerful. How are you feeling right now? 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.160 I feel grateful that I feel safe enough in this 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.280 room to be able to talk about it. Feel nervous 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.560 about the reaction, but it is what it is, and 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.200 you know, it's my story, and only I know how 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.800 it felt at the time, and the exhaustion and the burnout. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.240 But what I can tell you is that there are 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.760 women across this state who are feeling the same sort 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.080 of burnout and exhaustion. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.720 I saw a mean this morning that made me laugh. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.800 It was like, oh God, if only I had time 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.120 to do this breakdown properly. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:01.760 Think that's how we all feel at some point. 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.040 We can't we can't even do a breakdown properly because 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.840 we don't have the time for it. So yeah, I 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.559 definitely don't feel alone in this space, and I would 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.760 welcome anyone who wants to have a chat about it 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.360 to give a call on thirteen twenty four ten or 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.800 send us a text for double O nine or nine 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.840 nine one nine. We'd love to share the journey with you. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:18.760 Yeah. Absolutely. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.880 Tomorrow as well, we're going to speak to a very 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.520 very special psychologist. Her name is Nicola van der Tuzzi. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.080 She is it with confidence and I love that from you. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.840 She's going to join us as well, just to give 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.040 us some more of a background mental health anxiety, but 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.280 also some some methods and way to cope. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.280 Well when you top how. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.600 Do you differentiate between what's just a bit of worry 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.240 and what's actual anxiety and what's full on depression, you know, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.640 and also navigating your kids through this as well, which 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.520 is just with social media at the moment. 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.040 What a bloody mindfield. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.800 I don't think you can ever go wrong getting help, Jodie. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.400 I know you said that yesterday. No, when you know 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.559 has ever had a bad experience, I think if it's 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.160 something that you're worried about and if you've been listening 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.400 over the last couple of days, there's absolutely no shame 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.400 in reaching out, putting your hand up and saying hey, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:04.480 I might need some help. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:04.640 Well. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.160 Also, the other thing is too and you made a 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.679 good point, Molly, is find find your person. You might 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.079 go to a councilor and just get that's not right 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.439 for me. Just keep going, Just keep tampering with different 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:15.640 things until you find the right one. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.560 Yeah, you mentioned as well, we can open up the space. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.160 We'd love to hear from you because we're all on 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.400 different journeys and even at your lost like you mentioned before, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.360 some will come up tomorrow and there's an opportunity to 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.960 bounce back because you're a shining example of how well 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.720 you can bounce back and how much of a better 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.319 person and what is a person you can be. If 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:33.920 you do want to share your journey, we'd love to 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.720 hear from you. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.040 Missus Adelaide's favorite. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:38.680 Wait to awake. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.200 One name, thirty one degrees across Adelade's day. It's been 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.880 an interesting a couple of days around this time. We've 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:47.480 gone down a bit of a different route, saying we've 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.760 pivet it in a different direction and spoken about anxiety 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.960 and mental health and all sorts of things in that space. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.160 Joey spoke just before about her journey with mental health 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.880 and coming out the other side, and it's an unbelievable 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.760 journey that you been on jokes, and what we can 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.320 say is that a twenty four ten, a lot of 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.240 calls are coming through just about people sharing their space 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:07.080 and what it means to them. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.920 Let's go to Halla Cove and speak to Mel. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.400 Good morning Mel, Good morning morning Mel. How are you doing? 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.440 You've made me christ I thank sorry about that. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.280 I promise it'll be business as usual tomorrow. We'll go 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.160 back to making people laugh at hopefully, but I don't know. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.480 This morning. I think it was an important conversation to have. 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:25.520 How are you? 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.560 How are I'm good? I want to say thank you 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.920 for opening up and sharing it, because that is big. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.800 I've actually spoken to you guys before regarding my husband 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:41.199 who gave up alcohol, and so for me, I've always 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.760 had anxiety depression since I was a kid. And last 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:52.680 year I had a time where my work situation wasn't 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.720 great and I spiraled down. And it was this time 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.920 last year, and you can't stop the thoughts and you 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.880 just race and the physical symptoms of your tummy always 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.199 and a not and that sort of stuff. And it's 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.559 not until I I kind of realized one day I'll 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:09.920 wake up and I went, I don't want to. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:10.640 Actually wake up. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.240 And I'm so thankful that I've got a GP that 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.000 I can reach out to. She's me my JP for 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.160 fifteen years. And I got in straight away and they 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.560 straight on it and got me through to the mental 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.520 health service and supported me through. I had a great 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:35.120 both who supported me through. And yeah, it's hard, and 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.880 it's really hard to talk about it. It's easy to 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.480 do it on the radio because I can't see your face, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:39.559 so I can't see your judging me. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.840 Oh my god, IM no judging here because you've helped 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.800 us as well. So everyone shares their journey it helps 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.600 someone else with feel like and you're sharing your story 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.680 a couple of weeks ago, as you know that that 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.160 helped me. So I got right back on our goal. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.880 So and I'll think I've spoken to you off it 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.200 and I'll thank you again. But sharing this journey, just 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.199 like what Joe did before, it helps so many people. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.280 So that's what it's all about. Just I don't think 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.000 you can over communicate in this space. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.720 Yeah, and it really helps having good friends too, like 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.320 making sure that you're talking to friends and family where 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:12.640 you can. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.080 It's hard, but you've got. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:14.320 To do it. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:15.640 Yeah. 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.360 Let me tell you, mel old queen of the hot 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.520 messes over here. You ain't judge it anyone, that's for sure. 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.080 Thank you so much for giving us a call. We 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:23.079 really appreciate it. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.200 No worries. I can look after yourself. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.079 Yeah, and just on that, thirteen eleven fourteen is the 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.640 number for Lifeline if anyone is really really struggling. 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.200 We've people in a different direction this morning, yeah, jone. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.000 So look, we like having fun. That's the most important 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.520 thing for us, having fun and starting the day with 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.960 a laugh. But sometimes you need to cover some topics 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.880 which you are a little bit more serious. Started yesterday with anxiety, 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.960 and you took us through your journey with mental health, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.040 where you got to the lowest point and how you've 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.440 managed to get yourself back up to where you are 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.480 at now, which is absolutely marvelous. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.240 And it's while saying too, because I don't like it 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.679 when people talk about their anxiety and depression and they 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.319 don't acknowledge the impact it's had on the people around them. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.760 And this, don't get me wrong, this has had a 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.959 big impact on my kids and my husband and the 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.120 way back. I wouldn't have found it without them, So 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.840 you know, it's my husband has been He's a remarkable 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.200 human being. So yeah, I just think it's really important 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.880 to acknowledge those people around you. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:21.000 They help get you back. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.800 The calls that are coming through our extraordinary like texts 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.360 and calls on thurtey and twenty four ten when we said, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.080 you know, if you want to give us a call 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.920 thirteen and twenty four ten and share your journey, it's 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:32.880 been quite remarkable. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.960 We'll go to Aberfoyle Park. This is ange. Come on 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.800 to you a good morning. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.079 Just apologize in advance if I made you cry as well, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:44.559 and so watch that. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.280 Yeah, it's all good. Firstly, I just wanted to say 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.640 thanks Jody. I really resonated with what you said and 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.360 was like, yeap, one hundred percent. Got to talk about it, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.640 got to keep pushing through. You don't know what you're 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.080 capable of until you reach the end of your capacities, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:04.280 which was certain the case for me after dealing with 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.640 anxiety on and off for many years. I got pregnant 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:13.000 with my beautiful daughter, and in the six months after 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.959 she was born, developed a quite severe case of postnatal 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:22.120 depression and anxiety. Yeah, it was horrible. I just couldn't 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:28.800 see the forest for the tree and just and but 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:34.960 also my daughter's connection with me really helped me going 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:40.440 because I was questioning like everything about myself and my 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.440 capabilities as a mother, but my daughter was obsessed with me, 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.560 and so I'm like, hang on. It kept me going 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.280 in the sense of like, well, I have to be 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.320 doing something right because she wouldn't be obsessed with me otherwise. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:59.880 So but yeah, so long story short. After some trying, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.760 some medications and everything, I was seeing my regular psych 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:09.440 I ended up in Helen Mayo House in Glenside for 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:16.720 five weeks just getting myself back on track. The nurses 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:23.480 and everything there were amazing, yeah, in their support, But 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.920 I've had some of the most amazing things come out 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.320 of that journey. I now have the most closest group 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.240 of friends that I never knew I needed from some 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.120 of the other women that were there, And I finally 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.920 believe I'm the strong woman that I always wanted to be. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:43.480 And I've got a new sense of confidence within myself, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.080 not only just within my realm of being a mother, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.640 but also just within myself and being comfortable with who 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.520 I am and my personalities and my capabilities to do 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:58.640 my work and all of that. So doing the hard 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:03.040 work is pretty yuck, like you were saying, but coming 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.960 out the other side, like, yeah, you wouldn't recognize me 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.640 from what I was before. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:09.720 It's real. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.960 It's really funny you should say that about your baby 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.160 and the connection because I had Harper after I went 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.800 through all of this, and I I just remember having 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.720 moments where I was holding her hazy and I was like, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.200 you know, what's going on here? It was it's so weird, 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.400 And I was like, you as my baby, you get 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.359 exactly my emotions and my feelings. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.320 It isn't that a strange but incredible feeling. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.680 Yeah, and now I have the most incredible connection with 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:43.480 my daughter ever, Like yeah, yeah, I'm a science teacher, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:48.040 so like just thinking about the human development, how I 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:53.480 helped create this human being and this yeah, and like 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.400 what she's going through and that connection that's really important 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:01.480 between the two of us, and like just life is 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.800 scary and terrifying, but there's so much beauty in the 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.960 complexity of it all. Yeah, very absolute, and that's what 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:09.520 I noticed. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.960 I really appreciate your call. Thank you so much for 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.119 your honesty as well. I know that's not easy. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.040 Yeah, like I said before, Joe's and it's an incredible 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.240 story and brave as well. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:21.240 I like to talk about this. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.320 I think it's probably the hardest thing you can do, 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.440 and that is genuinely talk about your emotions. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.040 Spoke about it yesterday. Girls are so much better than boys. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:28.679 Oh yeah, we are. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.720 So I'll tell you what. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.400 Men and I'll lead this back and talk some absolute 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:35.960 crap at times, but when we have to talk about 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.600 our feelings and emotions, it's a bit harder. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.760 You kicked off this conversation, so well done too, you. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.920 And also thirteen eleven fourteen is the number for Lifeline. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.520 If you are feeling like you are on edge a 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.680 bit and you need to talk to someone, then they 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.840 are the most excellent resource. 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.520 Fava Hey forty six the top of thirty n ygrees. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.800 But today, nine o'clock this morning, we played the second 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.960 storm on Nob's birthday play that I've had a couple 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.720 of days now, Joe. It's where we love having fun. Yeah, man, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.680 that's probably the most important thing. But we're sort of 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.280 viewed in different directions because things happen, and sometimes things happen, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.040 we like, we need to talk about this because the 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.240 best method to deal with this is to talk about it. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.400