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Speaker 1: Welcome to hour old three sixty rub League from every angle.

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Speaker 2: Baught to you by fort Everest.

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Speaker 1: Joining me again the great Gordon tealist. It's been the

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Speaker 1: journal is in Buzz Rothfield and Bret Reid, and we've

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Speaker 1: got a very special guest, your mate, CEO of the Sharks,

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Speaker 1: as a test to coming up when heavy hitters.

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Speaker 3: Great to have the Sharks here tonight, mate. A few

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Speaker 3: wishes at the club. The footy team's going well well

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Speaker 3: and do you know be interesting listening to.

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Speaker 2: Still getting three tickets Buzzle.

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Speaker 3: I am a fully paid up member and have been

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Speaker 3: for probably twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: If you must have what a bet, a scarf, a beanie, nothing.

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Speaker 3: I get a hearty pie, A chairman Steve Mace's sweet

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Speaker 3: every now and then.

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Speaker 2: That's all you get a party, That's all I take.

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Speaker 2: You're telling poor Pie so much, sweet, so much to say.

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Speaker 1: You could feel the pressure at Alliance Sunday afternoon after

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Speaker 1: three straight losses being the finals, hopes were heaned by

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Speaker 1: a thread and one more loss would be fatal.

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Speaker 4: Anthony, thank you so much for your time. You've lost

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Speaker 4: three in a row. Now you need to keep winning

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Speaker 4: to have any chance of making finals.

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Speaker 2: How do you keep your season alive today? I think

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Speaker 2: that that you could reality check that.

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Speaker 4: Jacob Oh, he's quick, he's got Spain. He got away

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Speaker 4: from Corasu, he got away from Connor. Wanna start Coroswe

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Speaker 4: off a quick playing the ball by.

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Speaker 5: Out of debby, sir, he.

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Speaker 4: Ever closes the ball, Tigers come up with that, you know,

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Speaker 4: and then tell her and now fine and Connor to

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Speaker 4: lo Li Chick not tied by family, corrosal.

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Speaker 5: Very wide may Toruma He'll get them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with everything on the line, with regardless season, not

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Speaker 1: to perform like that, which was way blow our best

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Speaker 1: was disappointing.

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Speaker 2: That's how West performance for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Evans watch at John said, you'll take himself cut

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Speaker 4: it over the fence. The Tigers have one note for

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Speaker 4: the season and Cholsey.

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Speaker 6: We're now hoping to make the finals, which is not

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Speaker 6: where you want to be. So definitely wanted to finish

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Speaker 6: with the finals campaign. But yeah, that's obviously looking really

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Speaker 6: unlikely now.

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Speaker 4: Tigers twenty six, Seagulls twelve.

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Speaker 2: That was a turning point.

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Speaker 1: Thest to actually Mr Mental Center's a crushing blow for

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Speaker 1: Manly and doubts growing over.

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Speaker 2: Dce's moved to the roosters.

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Speaker 1: We've got a bit to unpack here with DCE and

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Speaker 1: coach Anthony Sebow. Let's start with DCE and yesterday, GORDI

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Speaker 1: wasn't a good day for you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, called the game on triple M and about three

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Speaker 7: quarters of the way through. You know, not often you

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Speaker 7: can watch a game and don't know the answers and

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Speaker 7: watch your many I didn't know the answers. They weren't connected,

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Speaker 7: they weren't playing for each other, and all the little

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Speaker 7: one percent of stuff that normally the players pack just

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Speaker 7: weren't there. So I don't know where they go from there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, Gordie, I'm really worried now about the Cherry Evans

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Speaker 3: situation at the roost So I know we're going to

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Speaker 3: get to that, but I am now coming to an

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Speaker 3: by saying I hate seeing champions and great players struggle

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Speaker 3: at the back end of their careers and not knowing

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Speaker 3: the appropriate finish line. And I would love to see

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Speaker 3: Cherry Evans right now consider retirement, retire as a one

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Speaker 3: club champion legend at the Manly.

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Speaker 2: Seagulls don't go to the Roosters.

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Speaker 3: It will cost him a few Bob, don't go there

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Speaker 3: and knock a young local journeys on eighty grand out of.

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Speaker 2: The rooster's side. I think.

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Speaker 3: PR wise would be a much wise decision for Cherry

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Speaker 3: Evans to pull up and read it. I just don't

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Speaker 3: seven years of age.

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Speaker 8: The PR battles lost us. It was lost months ago.

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Speaker 8: The PR battle he's lost. That that's gone. You can't

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Speaker 8: in a toxic environment and it's a toxic environment of

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Speaker 8: his own doing because of the way he's handled it.

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Speaker 8: I think he's playing like a bloke who knows that

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Speaker 8: be a completely different football. I think you'll see more

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Speaker 7: So you said it's a PR right, that's off the field,

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Speaker 7: But yeah, on the field, normally, when stuff doesn't go

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Speaker 7: and that's your solace. That's where you've got your teammates.

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Speaker 7: You can go there and you can prove everybody.

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Speaker 8: Cord I think you know, it's pretty clear that not

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Speaker 8: every player in that football club is happy with what's

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Speaker 8: happened and the way it got handled. And maybe it's

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Speaker 8: maybe to some players when they've got the support of

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Speaker 8: the entire playing group. It is the solace. But I

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Speaker 8: don't think he's got a decision and done what well,

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Speaker 8: what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Well already I said at the time it happened in

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Speaker 3: round four, he got on another television show in his

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Speaker 3: civilian clothes announced he was quitting man at the end

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Speaker 3: of the season.

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Speaker 2: Did not want to be there and that was it right.

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Speaker 3: Tom and Jake Traboi Bitch were a little bit critical

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Speaker 3: at the time, said it was a decision they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have made. The Roosters jumped in after round four. They'd

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Speaker 3: been white by the They're beaten thirty to twelve by

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Speaker 3: the Titans, and they were the opinion they needed a

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Speaker 3: Cooper Cronk style player to come into that football I

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Speaker 3: just want to go.

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Speaker 1: Back, he buzz. You mentioned retirement. No one's really gone there,

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Speaker 1: but you're saying he should retire.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying he's thirty seven next year and from

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Speaker 3: what I've seen in the last three weeks and he's

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Speaker 3: sacking from the Queensland state of origin side. I said

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Speaker 3: to you, I hate seeing old players and I have

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Speaker 3: seen them over the years, played.

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Speaker 2: One season two. It's a realistic chance it would be.

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Speaker 3: Because of the money involved, and there's talking eight hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars at the Roosters, it would be a hard decision.

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Speaker 8: Look, he Undergreen's a lot of money. Day doesn't need

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Speaker 8: the money. He's flying man. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 8: money is a big issue for Daily. I think he's

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Speaker 8: going all right and regardless of what happens when all

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Speaker 8: have to struggle for cash. I think for Daily the

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Speaker 8: big thing is I think he's got something left. I

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Speaker 8: know we're not seeing it now right because I think

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Speaker 8: the environment is in and it's stress. It's an environment

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Speaker 8: he has created. The environment he is is not conduced

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Speaker 8: and him playing good football. I think when he gets

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Speaker 8: for Sam Walker and Hugo Savala. I've seen him a

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Speaker 8: training with Joey Walsh be good for one half second,

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Speaker 8: both not from good, I mean Joey Walls the young

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Speaker 8: how much time Darly spends with Joey Walsh. Just think

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Speaker 8: he's doing that is a good going and he's going

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Speaker 8: at the end of this year.

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Speaker 2: You think he's defensive reads and.

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Speaker 1: Areas where he's really struggling an attack as well, and

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Speaker 1: all that is just because of the environries.

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Speaker 8: I think that's played a big partner break here.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he's gone, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Did you watch Friday Night the way Savala and Sam

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Speaker 3: Borker combined.

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Speaker 2: Since Sam came.

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Speaker 3: Back, the Bruisters have found their hearts they really had,

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Speaker 3: and they're about to sit down with Hugo Sabala and

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Speaker 3: substantially upgrade him for next He's a local junior.

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Speaker 2: He and Sam worker the future of that club.

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Speaker 3: Cherry Evans has done nothing in the last three or

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Speaker 3: four weeks to show that he's going to make much different.

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Speaker 8: It's nothing the last three four weeks. Buzzby, you know

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Speaker 8: what he's done plenty over the last fifteen years. The

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Speaker 8: show is a hell of a football and right now

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Speaker 8: he's a better player.

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Speaker 1: He's DC at eight hundred thousand dollars better than Hugo

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Speaker 1: Savalla at eight thousand dollars.

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Speaker 8: Well based in the past month. No, but I think

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Speaker 8: the past month. You can't measure DC on the past month.

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Speaker 8: Break it fair.

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Speaker 2: He's it's downhill. You don't get another spike at that

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Speaker 2: if he's twenty five.

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Speaker 8: I think he also consider the environment he's in Gordy

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Speaker 8: and I just as I've said over and over again,

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Speaker 8: I think the environment at the moment, not the en

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Speaker 8: was going to.

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Speaker 2: Be a lot better At the Roosters.

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Speaker 3: I know how popular Sam Walker and Hugo are amongst

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Speaker 2: They've got a really tight knit squad.

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Speaker 3: They're knocking off Canterbury, they're storming towards the finals.

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Speaker 2: A lot of teams are fearing them now and they're

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Speaker 2: a very very happy club.

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Speaker 1: Really, do the Roosters need an eight hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: half right now, who's who is aging and not playing

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Speaker 1: his best footy and he's going to take up a

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Speaker 1: hell of a lot of their cap.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's a good decision.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's a good question, Brath. I think in the

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Speaker 8: in the long for the long term future, it's a

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Speaker 8: one year sorry for Sam Walker and Suga Sah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think it's going to benefit those guys immensely next year.

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Speaker 2: The townshend, didn't they right?

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Speaker 7: So he'd been a premiership winning half back, not to

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Speaker 7: the same level of players D, but the same experience

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Speaker 7: being there.

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Speaker 2: They brought him. He was straight, then he fell off

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Speaker 2: a cliff and Saturn reserve grade. I just got a

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Speaker 2: text message, can you please slap Brent read on D.

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Speaker 2: That takes me to the Roosters all right now?

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Speaker 1: You said last week Barz, there's a chance that he

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Speaker 1: could go and just coach because he had his contract

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Speaker 1: wasn't registered with the NRL.

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Speaker 2: I want to know are the Roosters regard adding their decision.

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Speaker 1: We talk about DC making the decision to retire, but

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Speaker 1: they might want him to retire.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just throwing out there.

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Speaker 1: Have we heard anything from them about where they sit

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Speaker 1: in this situation.

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Speaker 3: I think if I could answer the question this way,

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Speaker 3: if they had their time over again, and if they

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Speaker 3: knew back in round four when they first approached Cherry

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Speaker 3: Evans that they weren't going to need him at the

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Speaker 3: end of the year because of Savella and Walker. I

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Speaker 3: don't think they would have done the deal. However, Trent

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Speaker 3: Robinson I think drove the deal. Nick Polyd has supported

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Speaker 3: him with the deal like he does with all his players.

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Speaker 3: I think there is a touch of regret there, not

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Speaker 3: that I'll publicly say anything, and they're hoping what Reidy said,

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Speaker 3: that he will have something to offer him.

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Speaker 2: Do they have to do though? Is my question too?

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Speaker 2: Do they registered? Could they pull the.

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Speaker 3: I would be of the opinion and with no law

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Speaker 8: I would imagine there would be some issues cap if

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Speaker 8: I think there'd be some drama. If they look, I'd

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Speaker 3: A really interesting story that Braith questioned, Braith House, you

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Speaker 1: The merely see was that they're criticize when this all

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Speaker 2: Are they seeing back now looking pretty good? Well?

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Speaker 3: If I had the choice right now whom my starting

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Speaker 8: Based on the form we've seen out of the past

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, decision.

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Speaker 8: I think it was a manly decision. Gordy Day made

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Speaker 2: I think Manly only offered him seven fifty originally.

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Speaker 3: That's what caused the bow up. I think Manly read it.

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Speaker 3: When we look back in hindsight, they read it well.

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Speaker 1: All right, Speculation ramps up around Anthony Sea Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Is he safe or not? Should we get the meter out?

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Speaker 3: Well, you love the met You've adjusted the meta today,

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Speaker 2: And by in the three rounds.

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Speaker 3: Time, he'll finish up there at the Titans, and I'm

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Speaker 3: tipping Josh Hannay might be the man. Adam O'Brian has

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Speaker 3: I reckon the precious building th body. Peyton desperately needed

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Speaker 2: That's nice man. Yeah, I'm glad. So you're sorry you've

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Speaker 2: got You've only got Sea bowled at three. I'll tell

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Speaker 3: Three because I made a lot of calls today to

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Speaker 2: Insist it's not their opinion of yours. Well, my opinion

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Speaker 3: But I'm trying to inform the people watching this show

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Speaker 2: I think he shall be under the cable. Let's get

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Speaker 2: next year. Yeah, Gordy, but what do you think I'm

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Speaker 3: Twelve unless they're going to write in the first eight

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Speaker 2: The pressure we see, we heard that if they didn't

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Speaker 8: There's some pretty extenuating circumstances for the American audio. No

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Speaker 2: The big edge forward.

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Speaker 8: Has been injured as well. So there's been some circumstances.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying clubs two weeks ago they've had

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Speaker 1: Let's not that I totally understand what you're saying, and

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Speaker 8: I don't know how to explain that, broth And I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Answer all your excuse without the window.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure Sieves would love to have the answer to

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Speaker 1: I thought Sieves yesterday I saw just there Jake Duke

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Speaker 2: And he was edgy. You said, you know, he got

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Speaker 8: Well he's und he is under pressure.

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Speaker 7: So you saw Andrew Webster over there in New Zealand.

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Speaker 7: He's under the same amount of pressure they were on top.

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Speaker 7: They've had injuries. He just did a press conference. Blue

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Speaker 2: You can't take it.

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Speaker 8: You can't take they're going to play finals.

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Speaker 2: Also saw the situation you say you should get a whistle. No,

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Speaker 7: You know that.

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Speaker 3: You also saw what Jason Riles did, who's on a

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Speaker 8: Well, I asked the question today about that buzz and

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Speaker 8: so not this week right now, three fiftieth, but next

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Speaker 7: Minutes, make this DC's last game, three hundred and fifty,

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Speaker 8: No, I don't think. I don't think you throw Darlian

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Speaker 2: But he didn't want to be there.

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Speaker 3: He he didn't reckless see somebody upset and you know,

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Speaker 8: Understand that, and you you know it's not no, it's

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Speaker 8: lots of people agree with you on that. Seves wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Yesterday they fielded seventeen men who were committed to that jersey,

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Speaker 2: That's the difference. When you get seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Players there want to be there, want to be their

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Speaker 8: Are you.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not, But I'm using as an example. If Blake's

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Speaker 3: some wanted to be there, whoshka ot you go?

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Speaker 1: Well, no talking to the Tigers ready, great, gap fly

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Speaker 1: and Benji's got his swagger back.

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 8: He was in a very chirpy mood in the press coom.

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Speaker 8: great improvers this season. I think Benji has done an

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Speaker 8: And they're going to be better next year. They've got Kit, Pierce,

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Speaker 8: They're going to be a better team next year. I

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at my table now. I don't We'll

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Speaker 9: I don't think they can make the top eight break

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Speaker 9: but in a miracle, but there's a first Air West

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Speaker 2: The Grand Final rematch between the Panthers and.

443
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: Storm was one of the most highly anticipated games of

444
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: the season, and boy did he deliver.

445
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 4: So I arguably matched the year's Storm and Panthers. To

446
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 4: kick off round number twenty four, Here we go, our

447
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 4: stack will play had Audam Toby half on the last.

448
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 4: I think he's gone, grit we shut. Here we go.

449
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: Coats feet off, coats to god him over the top.

450
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 5: Edwards Weather Cleari Weather goes.

451
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 4: To the line and ball.

452
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 5: Turn the line and clina water for to Lugi pass

453
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 5: and hope can't swim a ball. Catch me if you

454
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 5: can save your coats. Cleaner's teleg save your coats. He's

455
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 5: got another one. Beckon will come here he goes Cleari

456
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 5: shut penalty.

457
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 4: I don't like it. He hasn't done a whole lot.

458
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 5: And Grant has played for the pedal Harry, Grant's played there, okay,

459
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 5: but that is the rule.

460
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 6: If I was in the field of play and you

461
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 6: run the block shape, it wouldn't be an instruction.

462
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 2: Harry played for it because he knew he was going

463
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: to get the penalty.

464
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 5: Pedroick Trader on the field, No surprise back and goes

465
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 5: to Clarie and flots outs out again right in front

466
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 5: of the posts.

467
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: It's great, who done him?

468
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 5: Harry grad magician, Paul's a whole family.

469
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: Of rabbits out of a hat. That is absolutely all

470
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 4: time from Harry.

471
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 5: Grant, Full time Melbourne twenty two from Penroth eighty.

472
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: That was the moment around thanks to Ford.

473
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: So much controversy around the finish, but first of all,

474
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: that game that was it, It really was.

475
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: It was a screamer. I thought Penrith be home, but

476
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: Storm just kept coming back. Grant at the end with

477
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: the try.

478
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, they were great in the second half. Member the

479
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 8: first half they struggled, struggled out of their own end,

480
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 8: but the second half they were.

481
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: They were brilliant.

482
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 7: Semifinals come earlier. I just wanted to say that first,

483
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 7: but that was that was a cracking game when when

484
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 7: either way and both sides had a chance to win

485
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 7: it in the end Golden pointing, Harry.

486
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: Pendris were great.

487
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: That first forty got relentless I think it was nineteen

488
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: from nineteen completed citsy. The speed of the line nyled ruthless.

489
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: I thought Melbourne were in some trouble, but they he

490
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: brought a fire back the bars, buzz bars, you're filthy.

491
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm happy with these dives. I hate dives.

492
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: I hate them. I think they're a blight in the game.

493
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: I really do.

494
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 3: And what we saw there with Harry Grant the other

495
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: night when he charged out of dummy half to.

496
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: Put pressure on Cleary, that was never ever his aim.

497
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: His aim when he.

498
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: Left dummy half was to run towards Moses Leoda, fling

499
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: his arm out fall to the ground milk a penalty. Now,

500
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: the NRL put out a real sheet at the beginning

501
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: of this year saying they're going to be ticularly looking

502
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: out for players who take dives, try to deceive a

503
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: referee and get a penalty from it. I don't think

504
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: anyone at this table called argue what I'm saying. He

505
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: took a dive and you.

506
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 7: Makes it was Moses lead directly in his line.

507
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 8: It's a penalty. It's a penalty every day of the week.

508
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 8: The contact, the contacts and he walks towards it. Whether

509
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 8: Harry played up to it or not, it's a different issue.

510
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: Well, I don't say whether he did. You know he

511
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: played up so he ran straight for him.

512
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 8: Still man's a bit on the fence, but it's a

513
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 8: dead penalty every day of the week because he's not

514
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 8: supposed to be there. And he moved, even at the

515
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 8: last minute, he moved, moved a fraction. Well that's what

516
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 8: he got.

517
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: The bottom line is, the bottom line is you know

518
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 3: as well as I do, Grant had no intent to

519
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: put pressure on Cleary.

520
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, he played for a penalty. He took a dive. Somehow,

521
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: the NRL, the.

522
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: People down there in the football department have got to

523
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: stop this from happening, not just in these sort of situations.

524
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 3: In high tackles, they go down, they're not hurt.

525
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: Wait for the bark. I agree with the high tackles.

526
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: It's too much and we've got to crack down on that.

527
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: The referees, they come up as hard to believe, but

528
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: they didn't bring in this because, like you're saying here,

529
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: yours you said is black and white. A few others

530
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: don't you know? The odor does move. He is in

531
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: the way of the of Harry Grant. How can you

532
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: define that as a definite dive.

533
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 9: But by the fact he's stuck his arm out braking,

534
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 9: he still the one flung himself and he exaggerated the move,

535
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 9: but he still was in his way, you know, And

536
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 9: I still did move that little bit to get on

537
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 9: the out a little bit, I know, But this is

538
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 9: the thing, that's a great move. So but with the

539
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 9: high shots, like if you stay down, I think, what

540
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 9: are you bringing in the bringing the red card or

541
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 9: the yellow card?

542
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, what I want to do in the same team.

543
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: When they had a diving epidemic in global soccer, particularly

544
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: the EPL, they produce a ylow card when they can

545
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 3: determine the players taken over.

546
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: The Panthers were filthy. But here is one that we've

547
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: seen there around my last year where Nathan does a

548
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: similar thing.

549
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 8: Right, Nathan plays for the penalty in this situation.

550
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: So every team does it, all the smart players.

551
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: The only thing in this he ran straight into him,

552
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: purpose and spun and look straight at the reference to this.

553
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: He can run around him.

554
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: So what's the difference there, bus Well, I'm not saying

555
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: there's the difference at all, And I'm not being critical

556
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: Harry Grant because he played to the Royals, did nothing ilegal.

557
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: That's the gad he took it. Yeah, that's the gray area.

558
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: But what I hate ready, I cannot stand Blake's getting

559
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: accidentally topped high and then they fall to the deck.

560
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: There in their eyes they're looking for the trainer, waiting

561
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: for the bunker to have a laugh at it.

562
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 7: Now not hard because it wasn't a problem in my era, right,

563
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 7: and I don't want to keep on going back and

564
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 7: being the old dinosaur. They used to move the ball

565
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 7: over three meters and play on and the trainer deals

566
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 7: with it, and if and if there was foul play,

567
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 7: they go to the judiciary on a Tuesday night.

568
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: That's the way I played the game. Wasn't bad back then.

569
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 8: It wasn't broke me this and this isn't an issue

570
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 8: for the NRL. The NRAL, I don't think can fixes.

571
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 8: This is a club, a coaching and a player issue.

572
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 8: Coaches and players need to own this. If they don't

573
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 8: want to say, well, they need to. If we want

574
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 8: to see diving out the game, they need to take ownership.

575
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: With the premissure on the line and the grand pole.

576
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: You don't think the scores are level, tend to go

577
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: someone's hit.

578
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 8: I'm saying that, but they need to not do it.

579
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: But they were in the club. But you can't.

580
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 8: NRL to make decisions on whether guys are injured or

581
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 8: not injured. It's too hard, Brody.

582
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: If a man, I just want to say this card.

583
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: If there's a high tackle and the player can't immediately

584
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: get up at normal speed to play the ball, he

585
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: should automatically there's something wrong with him, he's days, so

586
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: he's taken a high shot. He should leave the field

587
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: and play straight away for an assessment, and that will

588
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: stop blokes going down. Not an interchange, not need to change,

589
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: but a sideline examination.

590
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 8: But the buzz Also, coaches and players need to take

591
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 8: some responsibility. This is their doing. They're making a consciousness

592
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 8: to this. Well, they need to gordon. They need to

593
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 8: probably not because they want to win. They need to

594
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 8: change ownership.

595
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: But as I said, one of the top coaches in

596
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: the game told me on Saturday that a coach is

597
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: derelict in his duties if he does not tell his

598
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: players to lie.

599
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 8: He needs to have a good look at himself in

600
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 8: the mirror.

601
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Well, no he doesn't, because I was in the damage.

602
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 8: Look at the damage it's doing the game.

603
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: That stuff, Well, everyone's got the damage. They've got they've

604
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: got a competition.

605
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: Jayden Campbell the one honorable act I've seen on the

606
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: football field with this situation two weeks ago, probably cost

607
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: his side golden point.

608
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: The referee did. Because the referee didn't see it. So

609
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: Jaden did the head, pulled up the great eye and

610
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: given them Jeffrey misses it. We've got to learn to

611
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: live with it. And I said it on that day.

612
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: So Jaden right here, this was the penalty is I

613
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: actually think Jayden did the right thing. It gets collected

614
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: in the head. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't a

615
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: reportable offense. And said it was fifty to fifty. No,

616
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: adamant wasn't. That was wrong. No, you're wrong, said it

617
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: was fifty fifty. I spoke. We must spoke to people. Yeah,

618
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: he spoke to the boss. Yeah. No, they were about

619
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: adamant that it wasn't. Well, you don't think there's a

620
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: diving problem, Yeah.

621
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 8: It's like it's embarrassing. The coach would say that he's

622
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 8: derelicting his duty if he doesn't tell his players to dive.

623
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 8: That's embarrassing.

624
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: No, but it's up bold players will tell you. What

625
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: can I tell you why? You can tell you why.

626
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 8: It's all orchestrated by coaches and players.

627
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: Can I make you stop it?

628
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 8: They've got the power stop it.

629
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: You think you know what? You stop it?

630
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 8: Take some personal responsible and accountability, you know, telling yourself

631
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 8: like when stay down.

632
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: It's embarrassing.

633
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 7: I can't we just name and shame the players I

634
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 7: do and just put them up on a clipboard like

635
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 7: an honest Benny Hill music or something tiny.

636
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: Brody because he hates it as much as anyone else.

637
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: Had on hold on he he hates it as much

638
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: as anyone else. But the bottom line is he has

639
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: to win football games Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

640
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: Hates can I guarantee you? I guarantee you.

641
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: All the other coaches do the same thing, except as

642
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: Hasler because Campbell jumped straight to his feet.

643
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 7: Or maybe Campbell didn't listen too much at stake Guys

644
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 7: on your coaches it is yeah, maybe they should start diving.

645
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: We support you, We support before the break Monday, buzz

646
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: you you got Friday on your mind?

647
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: Mate, Fever six o'clock Panthers Raiders at Mudgy eight o'clock

648
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: Storm Bulldogs to.

649
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: What you do?

650
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: Fifteen to go in the first game, You're alredo your

651
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: tied takeaway Jungle chicken curry. I'll get the six beers

652
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: out there, mate. That is the best I drink the

653
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: little twist tops. That is the best Friday night of

654
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: rugby league in history.

655
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: Beautiful two games free from the shaft, they make piez

656
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: at home, figure around journals and after a thrilling ten

657
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: twenty series, Australia take on South Africa in the first

658
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: ode tomorrow from two pm and you can catch all

659
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,160
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