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Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and Whip with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting one because the scene of relationships

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Speaker 1: and marriage mate it is on the way out. What's

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Speaker 1: the benefit of marriage? Let's take it down.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what? You and I don't agree on

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Speaker 2: most things, but you know what I actually agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I do well correct me if I'm wrong. The idea

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Speaker 1: of marriage is to create a union, which is breast.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, breast, which is best to bring up the wedding nights, sorry,

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Speaker 3: to bring up children. It's to create an environment where

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Speaker 3: you have two people that are in love to bring

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Speaker 3: up a family.

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Speaker 2: And can I just say that, I've got plenty of

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Speaker 2: friends who are totally in love with each other but

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Speaker 2: have decided not to get married and spend the money

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Speaker 2: and waste of the money Jess put on, They've put

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Speaker 2: it into other areas, and I totally agree with it.

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Speaker 2: Why do we need.

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Speaker 1: Just said no, you're wrong, She shook her head.

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Speaker 4: Well, because a lot of people don't have children.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the being able to walk into a

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Speaker 4: room and say that's my person, right anyone else? So

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Speaker 4: much so that we went and we asked the government

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Speaker 4: to say that's legal, right, Yeah, I can see that.

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Speaker 2: I can see that. But then the average, you know,

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Speaker 2: the average wedding is around about thirty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: In the rest. That's why did you get married?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Why did I get married?

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Speaker 1: Because what do you want to it? Do you want

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Speaker 1: a partner for life or do you want a family

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Speaker 1: or yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Want to partner for life. And it's that, like Jess said,

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Speaker 6: you are recognized before law that you two have committed

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Speaker 6: to each other and officiated that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a legal matter for yoush.

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Speaker 6: It's that formal commitment to each other. Like obviously you

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Speaker 6: know that you committed to each other and the lead

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Speaker 6: up to that, but it is that formal commitment in

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Speaker 6: front of all your family and friends that you are

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Speaker 6: going to be lifelong partners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something beautiful about that. Tommy. Why did you

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Speaker 1: get married?

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Speaker 2: It was for her visa from Russia?

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Speaker 7: Was yeah, absolutely, and hopefully any day now that visa

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Speaker 7: will come through. I keep delaying so much paperwork, more

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Speaker 7: than I would have thought.

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Speaker 1: You just want something, You want someone to share the

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Speaker 1: journey with because you're very lonely for a long.

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Speaker 7: Time, so lonely I thought no one would love me,

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Speaker 7: and no, it's it's like when Harme met Sally kind

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Speaker 7: of stuff, isn't it the romance Cafe.

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit shattered that we didn't get to celebrate

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Speaker 2: Tommy's wedding like it was And Tommy sort of alpe

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Speaker 2: and went over to France did it over there. There

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Speaker 2: was a couple of girls in a spa behind him

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Speaker 2: and that's what he remembers from the day, just what

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to have been there at that moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 7: Guys will renew our vows in a few years Mariah

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Speaker 7: Carey style and.

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Speaker 1: So's very boring, but nowadays, like divorce so common, it's

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Speaker 1: so common. When it's fifty percent, it's nudging fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: And gen Z, you have come out and said, in

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Speaker 1: a survey of of a two thousand people, fifty one percent,

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Speaker 1: we don't see the tradition of marriage as the best

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Speaker 1: way forward.

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Speaker 2: I can understand.

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Speaker 1: We're into exploration ships and not relationships.

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Speaker 2: Exploration set yes we we U the body are.

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Speaker 1: You exploring these wherever the hands wanted to? They've said

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Speaker 1: it's outdated, it's an old concept, and why do you

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Speaker 1: need a piece of paper and a legal letter to

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Speaker 1: say that you're together with that person. So there's the

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Speaker 1: legal side ticked off. The other side is they felt

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Speaker 1: that now that we're living longer and everyone's aiming for

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Speaker 1: one hundred years old and that's where science and medicine

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Speaker 1: and the body of today will take us, well, then

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Speaker 1: should you be with the one person for that amount

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Speaker 1: of time? Where back in the day your life expectancy

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Speaker 1: was forty eight, it would make sense that you got

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Speaker 1: married at fifteen and by your thirties you're an old person.

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Speaker 2: I think forty don't think life expecting it was forty eight,

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Speaker 2: So that means that means I'm dying your goal. Soe

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Speaker 2: Sue in Blacktown, what are your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 7: Sub Oh?

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Speaker 5: Look, I've never been married, don't want to get married,

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Speaker 5: and it is just a bit of paper.

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Speaker 2: What's the longest relationship you've been in, Sue?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Ten years?

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Speaker 2: Ten years? So was there talk of marriage, Sue? Or

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Speaker 2: you're totally against it?

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Speaker 5: No? I got engaged twice, but I think I just

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Speaker 5: got cold feet, and because it's not something that I

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Speaker 5: want to do. I do have a son. My son's

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Speaker 5: twenty eight, and I'm very happy with that. But no,

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Speaker 5: I don't think you need a bit of paper good

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Speaker 5: on suit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's no rules around this stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then that's why there's some dating apps are going to

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Speaker 1: be dead in five years. Well, for one, if they work,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be in business.

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Speaker 2: This is not it's not etiquette. But Sue, how old

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Speaker 2: are you me?

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Speaker 5: I'm fifty two.

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Speaker 2: Okay two?

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Speaker 1: And you're excited to explore into the future. You are

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Speaker 1: you believe in a explorationship.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think if I ever got into a relationship

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Speaker 5: ever again, I would never live with someone ever again.

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Speaker 5: They can have their home. I have my home, and

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Speaker 5: you know exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I met this couple the other day, Sue. The

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Speaker 1: wife lives in Sydney, the husband lives in Melbourne. Oh perfect,

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Speaker 1: and they see each other. They spend one week out

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Speaker 1: of every month together. They talk on the phone every

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Speaker 1: day and it's happy families, it is.

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Speaker 5: And you need that separation sometimes you can't live in

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Speaker 5: each other's pocket. Somebody That works for some people. And

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Speaker 5: I'm not against people that want to get married, but

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Speaker 5: for me personally.

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Speaker 2: No, Yeah, well that's the lice. That's why I know.

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Speaker 5: One is so maybe when I'm ninety, I might think,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I have to tick that off your

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Speaker 5: bucket list?

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Speaker 3: Maybe I might do that.

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Speaker 1: Would you think about going on maps or something like that?

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Speaker 1: So no, never, If the farmer wants a wife, bachelor,

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Speaker 1: Golden News, so many options for you.

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Speaker 2: What about traffic dating? Would you do traffic dating for

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Speaker 2: us one morning?

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Speaker 5: Look? No?

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