1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Five Double A Nights with Matthew Pantellas Cracy. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: You need to see the green dispensary at at Sterling 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: and today International Men's Day. Hello Sterling, got a lot 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: to chat about it. There's a topic you know very well. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: Well, I have to have a laugh. You just called 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 3: me Sterling, Chrits. He called me Sterling. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Didn't I say green dispensery at still? 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: And then he called me did I that's okay? 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Did I really? 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Just as telling them I did too. 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: Well, it's not an offensive name, so you're fine. 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: That's lucky. I had no idea. I said that. 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: See, something's just roll up. OHI Tracy, I'm great, Thank 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: you Matthew, how are you good? 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Thank you? 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 4: Well? 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: I had to laugh. And when the topic came up 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: that it was International Men's Day today and being somebody 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: who has worked in women's health for thirty six years, 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: and then I thought, well, it's not my area of expertise, 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: but respect I really didn't want to let the day 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: go by because it's really important that we Just because 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: I'm not the expert in that field doesn't mean that 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 3: fuel doesn't matter exactly equally as much as every other field, 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: including women's health. We've had foreba here and I did 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: ask a couple of GP friends of mine to come 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: on and they said, well, don't know that that's my 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: area of expertise. But so I thought, here we are. 30 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: So I need the guys out there to ring up 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: with their stories on what's improved their health, their tips 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: for other people on how to improve men's health. What 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: have you done in your life to ensure that you're okay? 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: And you know there's lots of men's groups out there 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: these days, men's sheds and things. How have they worked 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: for you? So come on, guys, I need you tonight 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: to ring up and share your stories. 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: Alrighty, there we go eight double two to three double. 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: I Now there are objectives for in National Men's Day, 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: aren't there. I suppose it's see you when that puts 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: this together or somebody does well. 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: It's a huge day. The theme for this year is 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: celebrating men and Boys, so it focus on recognizing those 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: positive roles that men and boys play at home, at work, 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: and in the community. So it's a global awareness day 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: looking at the many issues that men face, so things 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: like everything from abuse, homelessness, suicide, violence, but also health issues, 48 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: and because this is a health segment, I thought, you know, 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: we'll look at those, but we'll veer into what health 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: conditions affect men in respect to to women even too. 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: But what are our biggest health issues in men in 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: Australia in this current day. 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 2: Has to be prostateous number one, wouldn't it That would 54 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: be a huge issue for what it is for the 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: health system. For a start, well, what we. 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: Look at as men age. There are obviously some conditions 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: that are just solely that men experience, and in the 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: younger groups they can be things like testicular cancer as 59 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: they age, prostate cancer and that if we look at 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: what November is all about, but focuses on those conditions. 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: Not every man is going to end up with a 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: prostate condition, and doctors will after they turn certain age 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: start measuring what's called their PSA level to see if 64 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: that's going up, and if that's going up, they'll warrant 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: looking into that further. But it's not the main health 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: issue that men in Australia experience. So some of the 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: stats I have are back from twenty twenty two, so 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: they would have changed a little bit since then as well. 69 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: But the main cause of death in men in twenty 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: twenty three was cronary heart disease. Really, and that's eleven 71 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: percent of all men, of all male deaths. And you know, 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: the good thing is is deaths from this condition have 73 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: been declining for many years. Back in nineteen hundred, the 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: expected lifespan of a male was fifty one years. Fast 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: forward to twenty twenty three, it's eighty one point three. 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: So we're ranked second in the world, so only yet 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: next to Scandinavian reuntry, I think, which was eighty one 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: point nine. So longevity, better health care, better treatments in 79 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: health conditions all contribute to that longevity. 80 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: Very good. 81 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: Now, what's the second health issue? 82 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: Mental health? That don't have to be up there. 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: It's up there. But the second leading cause of death 84 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: currently four men is dementia, right, and it was announced 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: over the weekend that dementia is now the leading cause 86 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: of all deaths of deaths in this country male and female, 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: but it all the second leading in men. 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 89 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Now, there's lots of other causes as we know. So 90 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: some of them include things like you lung cancer, cerebo 91 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: vascular disease, including things like stroke, chronic lower respiratory diseases, 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: and look, definitely the mental health stuff is huge. 93 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we're hopeless, aren't we. I think us 94 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: blakes in asking for help with conditions. 95 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: Well, and I think that's why there's such a push 96 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: in this modern day and age to bring that spotlight 97 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: to men's health, because women notoriously will go to the 98 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: doctor much more readily than a man. And that's just 99 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: been too you know, we look at the generation we've 100 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: come from, Matthew and it was like tough en up 101 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: and real men, don't ee key, boys, don't cry all 102 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: of that stuff, which were really big labels on people 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: and big things to live up to. So there are 104 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: a lot of people really struggling on the inside, but 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: not at any pathways to talk about it. So fast forward, 106 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: you know, somewhere between twenty and forty fifty years, it's 107 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: become a forefront to encourage men to talk about things, 108 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: to access healthcare, that it is okay to not be okay. 109 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: And I'll just find quickly while we're chatting, my wonderful 110 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: cousin Luke put this wonderful thing on Facebook today and 111 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: I read it and I thought, oh, I've got to 112 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: read that tonight and I just found it really good, 113 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: like really lovely, and it says men can be tough, 114 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 3: men can cry, men can be silent, men can talk, 115 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: men can get help, men can give help, men can 116 00:06:53,640 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: have problems, men can be empowered and happy International Men's Day. 117 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: I thought that was beautiful and that just encompassed that 118 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: we you know, there are times when we all have 119 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: to be strong, but there's times when we're not strong, 120 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: and that's okay, and it's encouraging to talk about both 121 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: men and women in you know, my parents' generation and 122 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: their parents' generation generally didn't talk about their health issues 123 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: with anybody, and certainly men and women didn't often talk 124 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: with each other, so a lot of people suffered in silones. 125 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: Fast forward Women's lib and all of that stuff, and 126 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: women became well, I'm going to talk about this and 127 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: this is my life and these are the things I experienced, 128 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: but men kind of got left behind in that early pathway. 129 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: Now we are so blessed that we have this enlightened 130 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: you know, the age of enlightenment where we respect that 131 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: every single person matters, and abuse doesn't just affect women, 132 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: homelessness doesn't just affect women. Health issues don't just affect women, 133 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: and whilst they might be different from the ones women experience, 134 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: we are all human beings. 135 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 136 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: So it's about time we really started looking at that. 137 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: Found some really cool Statso, so fifty eight percent so 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: three and five Australian males rate their health as excellent 139 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: or very good. Now I don't know if that's the 140 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: absolute truth, but it's great that if we live in 141 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: this country where our health care is really excellent standard 142 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: and things that people actually think they're really helpful. 143 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: I reckon we think that if we can get up 144 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: out of bed in the morning and stand up and 145 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: it's a good day. 146 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: I often laugh when people are in the pharmacy, Matthew, 147 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 3: because you'll say to somebody, how are you today? Well, 148 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: I got up, didn't I any day? I'm upright and 149 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: breathing is a good day. You know, those sorts of comments, which, yeah, 150 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: you've got to have a little chuckle at them. But 151 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: for that person they might be very real where they 152 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: haven't been well or it is a struggle to get 153 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: up and do that, that they feel okay about that, 154 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: or they joke about that. So but forty nine percent 155 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: of Australian males have one or more chronic health condition, 156 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 3: so half the population is suffering from something. 157 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: What do we call chronic, Well. 158 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: Chronic is a long term, so acute is say I've 159 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: got pain and they find out I've got appendicitis, they 160 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: remove the appendix. So that's an acute condition. Of chronic 161 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: health conditions and things like diabetes and heart disease and 162 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: things that stay with us that we either manage or 163 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: medicate or whatever. In twenty twenty two there were eighty 164 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: nine thousand new cases of cancer in males. 165 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: Wow, eighty nine thousand. 166 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: That's quite significant. And fast forward, you know, three or 167 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: four years later it could be more mental health. Forty 168 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: three percent of Australian males have experienced a mental health 169 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: problem at some point in their lifetime. 170 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: That's huge, that's big numbers. Yeah. 171 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: And two, I think the overall stats are about one 172 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: in four Australians have experienced a mental health condition. So dementia. Now, 173 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: this stat I know is definitely old because I think 174 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: they averaged that in the last year there were four 175 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: hundred and forty thousand people in Australia with dementia. This 176 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: is saying there's about one hundred and fifty thousand, but 177 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: I think it's actually gone up since then, so you're 178 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: looking at as significant. So for every thousand men twelve 179 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: to fifteen will develop dementia. 180 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: Well, John has made the point here. It says the 181 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: problem about mental health in men is there's still a 182 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: stereotypical image. It's a sign of weakness to speak about 183 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: vulnerabilities or they're struggling with stress or anxiety. 184 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: Look, yes and no, I think we're much more open 185 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: to talking to people and listening. It's often men feel 186 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: like still a stigma. But I think the problem is 187 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: overall mental health still has stigmas attached to it, which 188 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: we're trying desperately in health to break down. But I 189 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: think overall there is still a stigma towards mental health 190 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: and hopefully over time, you know, we are becoming more enlightened. 191 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: We know this stuff's going on. We need to be kinder. 192 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: We live in a day and age where things like 193 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: bullying shouldn't happen. Yeah, that's right, but they still do. 194 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: So I think thank you for that point. It is 195 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: very real that you know, and even from a female perspective, 196 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: not many people want to speak up because it's seen 197 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: as a sign of weakness, but it's not. It's the 198 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: silent illnesses that are crippling people. 199 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: All right, Tracy Ying, not Sterling Ying. Tracy Ying is 200 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: here from the Green Dispensary at Sterling, and she's happy 201 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: to take your calls, whether it's International Men's Day today 202 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: and men's health issue that she can help you with, 203 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: or any health related question in general. Eight double two. 204 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: To three double O double A will be back shortlet 205 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: five double A nice with Matthew pantalis e eleven. 206 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Minutes to nine o'clock on five double as. Another draft 207 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: pick of South Australian lad Cameron Nan from Central's is 208 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: after Hawthorne as about ten to go or so in 209 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: the first round of the draft. Tracy Tracy Yend is here, 210 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: of course, from the Green Dispensary at Sterling. And you're 211 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: like this from Martin, he says, good evening, Matthew and 212 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: Tracy are here. Dementia and Alzheimer's now the number one 213 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: cause of death. My remedy and preventative therapy is to 214 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: listen to Matthew Pantellus and Andrew Raimer. This is the 215 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: best and cheapest form of mental health gymnastics available. 216 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: That's really cool, So I'd take that as a conflict. 217 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 218 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: But two, and that actually is one of the things 219 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: that is very protective about the prevention is that social 220 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: community and also keeping brain stimulated. But then there's a 221 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: lot of other factors. So if you start looking into dementia, 222 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: some of the biggest causes are poor diet, inactivity, or 223 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: some of the biggest risk factors are those things linked 224 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: to it. So but you know what it's all about, 225 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: that community, keeping active in it thinking, keeping the brain 226 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: going so well done. 227 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: That's Quizzards are a thing, aren't they, And you know 228 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: sadoka and all of that. Crosswords, you know, it's funny. 229 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: I saw Wendy Hall from Dementia Dollars International present a 230 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 3: Prevention of Dementia seminar to one hundred and fifty people, 231 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: and she put up her hand and said, who actually 232 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: likes crosswords and sudoku? And I think three people in 233 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: the whole room put their hand out and she said, yeah, 234 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: it's a common misconception that do those because you get 235 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: the morning paper they're in there or blah blah blah 236 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: they'll keep your brain active. 237 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: But they don't. 238 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: That's not the preferred choice of activity. Okay, So interestingly enough, 239 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: it's about what fulfills you like, feels your cup, and 240 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: what keeps your brain active. You know, you find a 241 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: lot of people go off and play bridge or go 242 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: to lawn bowls centru So all of those things involve 243 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: several factors of thinking, activity and community. Community, So they're 244 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: really really important. I mean, even simple things like poor 245 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: hydration can mess up your brain a bit, and low 246 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: vitamin B twelve we talked about the other weekend on Saturday. 247 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: Those things can give you dementiary symptoms as well. So 248 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: getting all your ducks in a row about how you eat, 249 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 3: how you live, get moving, belong to groups, volunteer, participate, 250 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: they're all going to help. 251 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, right there we go. All right now, chronic conditions 252 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: in men. It's International Men's Day, so we're talking about 253 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: men's health today. 254 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: Yes, So the most ten common chronic conditions that impact 255 00:14:52,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: men are arthritis, asthma, back problems, cancer, chronic obsord, destructive 256 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: pulmonary disease, diabetes, heart stroke and vascular disease, chronic kidney disease, osteoporosis, 257 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: and mental health conditions. 258 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: But they would impact women as well. I mean, yeah, 259 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: listening now, I can tick off four. 260 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: Of those absolutely. And that's the funny thing is, like, 261 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: you know, when we break it up to men's health 262 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: and women's health, I mean, there are a lot of 263 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: differences in men and women and their aging process as 264 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: far as hormones are completely different, reproductive organs are completely 265 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: different than things like that, but those conditions are fairly 266 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: common in our western world across the board. So interesting 267 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: you mentioned about prostate cancer before, because looking at cancer diagnosis, 268 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: you know, in a nutshell, the most common diagnosis for 269 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: men is prostate cancer, followed by melanoma, cholorectal cancer, and 270 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: then lung cancer. The risk of Australian males being diagnosed 271 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: with cancer is one in three by the age of 272 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: seventy five one in two by the age of eighty five. 273 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: But interesting, let's break down the ages a little bit 274 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: more so the most common cancer diagnosis among males, it 275 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: does vary significantly by age, So in twenty twenty two, 276 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: leukemia and brain cancer were the most common for males 277 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: under the age of twenty. Well, testicular cancer and melanoma 278 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: were the most common in males under the age of forty, 279 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: with prostate cancer and melanoma the most common in males 280 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: aged over forty, so they're still very prevalent. And the 281 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: estimated age specific incidents of all cancers increases sharply from 282 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: age forty five, and the associated mortality rate is delayed 283 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: and increases sharply from the age of sixty five. So 284 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: these are the times this well. I don't like to 285 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: think of middle ages middle age, but I think I'm 286 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: already there. But it you know, like nil Adri said 287 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: last week, we need people to be learning this stuff 288 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: in their twenties and thirties, not in their fifties sixties. 289 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: That's right, because often then the risk factors it's too late. 290 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 3: But it's never too late to make healthy changes. Ever, so, 291 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: even if you have an illness, there are still so 292 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: many positive changes you can make to have better health outcomes. 293 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Gee. That bad back is an interesting one, 294 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: isn't it. The back pain, the back problems, because I 295 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: reckon everybody at some stage or another has suffered that. 296 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 2: You know, you lift something incorrectly, the back goes, you 297 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: can't move your bed ridden or whatever it might be. 298 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: You know, you need help to get around, holding the 299 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: walls or whatever. It takes to get you moving. 300 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: It's certainly interesting as we age that our brains still 301 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: feel like we're twenty one and the physical body just 302 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: doesn't keep up. But there's two trains there, so like 303 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: trains are thought there because some are injury based. So 304 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: we're trying to do more than our physical body wants 305 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: to at that age, and there are things that we 306 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: definitely should not be doing when the amount of people 307 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: at fall off ladders in their sixties, seventies and eighties 308 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: is just incredible. But at the same time, you've also 309 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: got the strain of arthritis, and osteoarthritis will wear and tear, 310 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: so if you've had a really physically active life, you're 311 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: going to be more prone to that. If you have 312 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: inflammatory conditions, they're going to give you a lot of 313 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: grief as well. And those things do, particularly that osteo 314 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: wear and tear as you age ramps up. 315 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely all right, it's coming up to five minutes 316 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: to nine o'clock news not far away. Tracy Yeend is 317 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: here and that from the Green Dispensary at Stirling. I'm 318 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: being very careful now with earlier flucking that up. So 319 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: if you have any health related questions and okay, International 320 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: Men's Day were spending a bit of time talking about 321 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: men's health. Love to have you on the phone to chat. 322 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: Paul's just called in from Ballet Clavera. Paul, hold on 323 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: there because I'm sort of winding up to go to 324 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: the break in the news and we'll have a chat 325 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: with you on the other side. And Simon as well 326 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: from PARILOWI just be patient, boys and we'll have a 327 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: talk in a few minutes time. All right, news is 328 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: on the way here on five Place. 329 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: Five double a nice with Matthew Pantalis. 330 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: Tracy Ying is here a green dispensary sterling and the 331 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: board has feeled up. Just before we get to your calls. 332 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: Let me bring you up the speed with the draft 333 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: pick number twenty two. It's another South Australian, young Mitchell 334 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: marsh from where Stadelaide. He's not going very far, he's 335 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: not going into state. He's going to the Crows key 336 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: forward led goalkicking at the National Champs this year. We'll 337 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: done Mitch, and another South I was he Aiden Schubert 338 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: from Central's is heading off to Hawthorne next year. So 339 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: well done to both Tracy. Shall we go to calls. 340 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: Sounds great, all right, Paul at ballet Club, A first 341 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: cab off the rank this evening. 342 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: Hi, Paul oh Man, Tracy. I'm hope I'm wrong, but 343 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 4: I've got a feeling. I haven't got many calls. 344 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: None so far, but the borders filled up after you 345 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: rang while the news is on. 346 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, apart from there's one of the callers called 347 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: Mile and the path from him. I haven't really men 348 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: have been backwoods, is coming forward any question about No, 349 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: they're health and we come from the centuries, many centuries 350 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: since time beginning. I think of the men being hunter gatherer. 351 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: He goes and you know it kills the animals or whatever. 352 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: And yeah, a woman would probably do the crops, look 353 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 4: up to the plumps and that in vegetables. But too 354 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: now the last fifty years, instead of instead of mother 355 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 4: had been at home and and then making the mules 356 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: and all that, and men going out to get the 357 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: money in that, we've now got even men and women 358 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: too busy. We've got babies on, so many babies on 359 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: the formulas. It's heavy care. It is twenty six. We 360 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 4: got me a to chemis shops saying or get a 361 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: meal in a in a thick shake or in a 362 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 4: shake you know, a mule replacements, you know. And I 363 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: think the problem, unfortunately is because men are just too 364 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: hard wires and blass. I care about the diet and 365 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: looking at that like that's my story. It's easy to 366 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 4: take the paint here is antidepressant. We don't got new 367 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: regens or whatever. Neuropan paintiless for babies. And I think 368 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: even now even women don't have time to prepare the 369 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: food just it's just quick to take it. It goes 370 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: service station and grab a mind to eat. And I 371 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: don't think, you know, or just with men, I was 372 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: just down and whatever I tey about the food. Not 373 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: now they've rolled their lives. Whereas I find women they've 374 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 4: a been more open and of course they would a 375 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: bit more interested in their appearance too. 376 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: Well, they might just be more polite than the blogs 377 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: you talk to. I don't know, Paul, well I think it. 378 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 4: I just say, like, you know, if you've got a 379 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: wife at home and she's talking in the food, yeah 380 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: you're laughing. But most women now do busy making a 381 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: living any wy Yep, absolutely not. 382 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't know that I agree with that in entirety. 383 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: Pool just purely because I know, the last six or 384 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: so seven years, I've worked six days and two three 385 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: evenings a week, but I spend my Sunday's meal prepping 386 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 3: and cooking, and we never not eat and we very 387 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: rarely have takeaway and things. So I think there's a 388 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: lot of us juggling a lot of balls to try 389 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: and do the best we can to make sure that 390 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 3: everyone does get We're not only doing the jobs that 391 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: previous generations when the wife stayed at home, we're now 392 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: working full time as well. So there's a lot of 393 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: balls to keep in the air, and it's not always easy, 394 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: and you know, sometimes, you know, I do understand why 395 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: people go for quicker and easier meals. I don't think 396 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: that should be their primary diet. But the one thing 397 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: I want to reassure you, Paul, is I look at 398 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: my son's gen generation and he's on his way to 399 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: twenty one, and he's really quite health conscious and picks 400 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: his food and preps his food, and we'll go on 401 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 3: a ten k walk through Blernational Park and do all 402 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: of those things. And there's a lot of his mates 403 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: doing that as well. 404 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: My nineteen year old No sugar just will not sweets nuts. Yeah, nothing. 405 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: Yes, So they're making some really conscious decisions about what 406 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: they're putting in their bodies. And I know there's still 407 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: room for them to move some more, maybe because a 408 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: lot of their world is on computers and screens and things. 409 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: But I am feeling really reassured by seeing this younger 410 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: generation are a lot more informed than previous generations and 411 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: they're really doing some good stuff. So I think that's positive. 412 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: But it's okay because I'm having the sugar for both 413 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 2: of us. 414 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: That's all right, don't tell them that. 415 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: Simon at Paralleli Hello, Simon. 416 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: Hey, hi Simon. 417 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just ringing up. I heard what you 418 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: said about men's mental health, and it's you're stating that 419 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 6: it's all with the diet, and. 420 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: No, not all. 421 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 6: He chooses medical. 422 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: Definitely, not all, but they are contributing factors to not 423 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: only mental health, but to disease. 424 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 6: Mental health with research. And I had a cousin who 425 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 6: committed suicide three years ago, still trying to figure out 426 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 6: the cause, the cause of it because it's in the 427 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 6: police hands. And we later found out that he was 428 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 6: a closet cross dresser, so. 429 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 3: He struggled without effect. 430 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, and his body was found two and a half 431 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 6: days afterwards. And the unfortunately thing, well, I've spoken to 432 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: a lot of men are from men's group and that 433 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but I don't believe health, as in medical 434 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 6: wise is a bigger cause unfortunately. I believe it's the 435 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 6: stigma of how women want us to be for bringing 436 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 6: in the money, certain looks, everything else like that. I've 437 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 6: even had an ex that basically kept bad mouth and 438 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 6: the way I looked and I only wanted intercourse if 439 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 6: she was under the influence. 440 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like you were in quite an abusive 441 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: in relationship. And when we say diet and health conditions, simon, 442 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: there are only some factors. But when you start to 443 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: get a lot of factors, it's very sad about did 444 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: you say it was your cousin or yeah, your cousin. 445 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: That's incredibly sad. And that is somebody with you know, 446 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: struggle or to want to be the way he wanted 447 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: to live within the means. I don't think all women 448 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: look at men like that. I certainly think that there's 449 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: also the same in reverse. I mean for women, it's 450 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: very much judged on how you look and what you 451 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: do for a living. Do you earn en after you 452 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: you know, all of these things. I think unfortunately, we 453 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 3: live in a world where there is just way too judgment. 454 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: Everyone has to have a label and this and that 455 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: or fit into that box, where most people don't fit 456 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: into any box. That we're all so different. 457 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: Exactly, do you think this is ever going to change, 458 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: particularly what you said about women, you know, the way 459 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: women are judged, Is that ever going to change? 460 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, I would hope so. 461 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's come a long way over a few decades, 462 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: relatively five or so. Particularly when I started working in 463 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: the early eighties, there were older women in their fifties 464 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: at that stage who hadn't married because had they married, 465 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: they would have had to give up work thirty years earlier. 466 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: Yes, kind of like life sped up since our parents' 467 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: generation where mom stayed home and dads went to work 468 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: and things like that. I don't think, you know, I 469 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: think the pressures offer men a little bit on how 470 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: much you need to earn because women enjoy or go 471 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: seeking their career, or want to pull their weight or 472 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 3: you know. I don't know that there's ever a perfect solution, 473 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: but it does sound simon that you weren't in the 474 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: perfect relationship for sure, and that's really unfortunate, and that 475 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: sounds quite abusive, to be honest. And I think, you know, 476 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: perhaps if you were in the right relationship, you would 477 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: see that very differently. 478 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. Simon Troy at w A College. Hello Troy. 479 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: Hello, Hey Troy here, how are you now? Tray? I 480 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: think you've worked out over the years. I've had mental 481 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: issues and stuff like that. Depression and the answer to well, 482 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 5: not for comment I'd like to make with Simon call 483 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 5: league dismayed. I think and what you just said, Matthew, 484 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 5: I think men have to change more than what women do. 485 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: That's my personal opinion. 486 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's something in that. 487 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And well, I live in a coal mining town, Okay, 488 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 5: Now I can not that I've done it for quite 489 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: a few years. I'm my best friends out of lad 490 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: mate one. They're the best ones to have. Now that's 491 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 5: my choice. That's nobody. I love my own company. I 492 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 5: listen to a lot of radio, as you people know. 493 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 5: But I'll give you a typical typical conversation in Collie 494 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 5: right two with men too. Highlights is oh we got 495 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 5: two two hundred thousand kind of coal out the coal 496 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: mining a twelve hour shift. It was nearly a record, right, 497 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 5: and the other things, oh we got twenty five are 498 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: illegally out of seat. That's the end of the conversation. 499 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 5: US flow. We hide behind it with too proud ego 500 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: is an issue. The biggest and I've been through this, 501 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: the biggest one of the biggest issue you've got to 502 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: have to step forward, especially with mental health, is admit 503 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: that you've got a problem and then except the help 504 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 5: that he's there for you. 505 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: Once you get in. 506 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 5: The system, there's any and everybody that will help you 507 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 5: matter of getting in the system. How to get into 508 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 5: the system is to admit that you have a mental 509 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 5: health problem, and the world just opened up for you. 510 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: I agree, Troy, and I think now there's more avenues 511 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: for people to do that. You know, we have those 512 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: are you ok days where even men are asking other 513 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: men are you okay? And it gives you an opening 514 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: to go, you know what, instead of just saying I'm fine, 515 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: say well, you know what, actually I'm not coping as 516 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: well as I should be, or I'm experiencing an increase 517 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: in anxiety, or or my mood's dropped or whatever. It 518 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: gives people avenues and you know, now there's so many 519 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: services like You're Beyond Blues and your Lifelines and things 520 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: where people can actually reach out if they're struggling. 521 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, but a lot of men. One thing is don't 522 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: give a rat that won't say or raps are what 523 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 5: other people think because they're not going to help you. 524 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: And the thing the other thing that gets made Tracy 525 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 5: and Matthew is Okay, you're going and get help from somewhere, right, 526 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: or somebody says something, you know what, they walk out 527 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 5: your gate, but they've been friendly and given you said something, 528 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 5: But you are the person that lived with it twenty 529 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 5: four seven, three sixty five days of the year, so 530 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: you're the one that's got to fix at first. 531 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: I think that that's a really good point. At the 532 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: end of the day, we're all to some degree responsible 533 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: for our own health and wellbeing and the pathways and 534 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: choices we make. Sometimes that's not as easy for some 535 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: people if they are stigmas, or have they been brought 536 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: up or in that environment, or they're in abusive relationships 537 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: and things like that. So there's so many factors and 538 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: it's not a one size fits all thing. But and 539 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: I think We've got to get better at reaching out. 540 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: And you know, we always expect people to say I'm 541 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: fine now when we ask them if they're okay, but two, 542 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: if they say they're not, we need to then take 543 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: a leaf out of you know, all this mental health 544 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: fare staid staff. Which is really good advice is have 545 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: those big conversations, be with people, ask them. You know, 546 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: I think they're really important pathways that we need to take. 547 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: Very good comment and great call Troy, Thank you. We 548 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: will take a break eight double two to three, double O, 549 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: double O. You can join the conversation International Men's Day today. 550 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: Tracy Yendi is here. Beck has paid you a huge 551 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: compliment on the text like, Tracy says, such a great segment, 552 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: such a great guest. She should be very proud of 553 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: her knowledge. 554 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: That's lovely. Thank you. That means a lot. 555 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: And Sandy says Matthew and Tracy. When I met my partner, 556 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: Mickey had just had a heart attack double bypass. It 557 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: took a near death experience for him to change his diet, 558 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: lose weight, and achieve diabetes remission. I guess it helped 559 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: he add a dietitian as a partner to guide and 560 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: motivate him, but so proud of him for sticking to it. 561 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: Happy International Men's Day, Mickey says. 562 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: Sandy, beautiful with that, that's a beautiful story. And too, 563 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: you know, we are human and as we age, you know, 564 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: we do have either health conditions or symptoms or you know, 565 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: we're not as fit as active, and you know, we're 566 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: not as patient as we used to be. We put 567 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: up with a lot less garb than we used to 568 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 3: in previous times and things like that, and that's all okay, 569 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 3: But what we have to do is accept that other 570 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 3: people are like that too, and we have to be 571 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: more open and accepting if you want to be with 572 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: partners and things like that. That we are different and 573 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 3: we are set in our ways and things, but it 574 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: doesn't mean you can't be respectful and support. 575 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: Right. So when my wife says you're a grumpy old 576 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: man and turning into one increasingly, we have to. 577 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: Get you that book. There's a book called How Not 578 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: to Be a Grumpy Old Man? Really, yes, okay, and 579 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 3: apparently it's very good. We have to get your copy. 580 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: Math he yeah, yeah, okay. Luke has made a really 581 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: good point on what you were just saying before. Tracy 582 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: Yes on mental health. There's someone with mental illness. I 583 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: strongly say speak to someone. If you're struggling with mental 584 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: health issues. 585 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: Please do please reach out and Look, my role and 586 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: expertise is not in men's health. But what I can 587 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: do is I'm more than happy to listen to your 588 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: story and maybe I can help point you in the 589 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 3: right direction or you know, I'm obviously not available every 590 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: day of every weekend nights and whatever, but Ring Lifeline, 591 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: Ring Beyond Blue, some of those websites and things have 592 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: some amazing information that we've got, you know, the emergency care, 593 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 3: mental health and things like that. Now access those services. 594 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 3: If you're at that point, please. 595 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 2: All right, terrific, We will take a break. Twenty two 596 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: past nine, back with more than just. 597 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: A tick five double A nights with Matthew Pantalas. 598 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: Tracy Ying is here at the Green Dispensary at Sterling. 599 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 2: Luke is on the line from Queenstown. 600 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 7: Can I look yeah, I'm good, hailo good. I'm just 601 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 7: I suffered from mental health issues myself, and I find 602 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 7: that the urgent mental health care in town really helps 603 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 7: excellent give your place to go and talk with someone 604 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 7: and talking in itself really like ELPs veritely important. 605 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 606 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: Opening up. 607 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're at your lowest, to have somewhere to 608 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: go to a place that is understanding, qualified, etc. To 609 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: help you with the skills that you need at that 610 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: time is superb. Yes, but thank you for sharing that, Luke. 611 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 3: It's really awesome for you to open up and share 612 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 3: that with us. 613 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Yep, good on your Luke. Thank you. And that's the thing, 614 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: is not it's getting to that stage and as you say, 615 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 2: when people say are you okay and maybe follow that 616 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: up with it, are you really okay? Yeah? And getting 617 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: to the point of talking. It's not easy. 618 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: It's not And I was fortunate to do the mental 619 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 3: health fare st Aid course at the end of last 620 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: year and it was a real I know, and I've 621 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: worked in health in a like thirty nine years and 622 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 3: to be able to sit there and say it says 623 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: you don't say to someone are you just okay? Or 624 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 3: you know, are you feeling like you know, not so great? 625 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: And all the thing push your foot around there thing. 626 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: It teaches you to go do you feel like you 627 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 3: want to end your life right? And give people that 628 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 3: opening to go yes or no? Because do you feel 629 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 3: like you want to hurt yourself is very different from 630 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: do you feel like you want to end your life? 631 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: So, but wouldn't people say no to that in that situation? 632 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 3: I think if people get to that point where they're 633 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: that desperate for help and they feel that low, that 634 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: they probably would reach out for help. And in that circumstance, 635 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: if you your responsibility at that point is if you 636 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: ask somebody are they thinking about ending their life? And 637 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: they say yes, you need to organize help. But stay 638 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: with that person until help arrives or until you get 639 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: them to help. So you don't just ask those questions 640 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: and then oh, well that was a nice carp of 641 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 3: buy Now that's not the case. You need to stay there. 642 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 3: Your responsibility is then to stay and until they're safe. 643 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 2: Not to draw this out, but I just would have 644 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: thought people who aren't thinking rationally, because that's what it 645 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: is ultimately, isn't it to some degree? I mean, you 646 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 2: might think it's rational in that position, but it's not ultimately. 647 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: If you're going to take your life. 648 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 3: But you don't have to be psychotic or anything to 649 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: you want to end your life, life just has to 650 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 3: be incredibly tough and you've got no way out. 651 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: I just wonder how normal a conversation it would be. Though. 652 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 3: Look, I don't know that there's any rule books, textbooks 653 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 3: or anything on this. It's just picking up on someone 654 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 3: you love and care about. If things aren't right. How 655 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 3: do you get yeah, that's right. How do you walk 656 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: them through to help or how do you support them 657 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 3: as a person? And I think mental health is a 658 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: big issue and it affects both males and females, and 659 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 3: it's not going away anytime soon. So we need to 660 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 3: be understanding and be a wo Just be that little 661 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: bit open to go, you know what, you know, if 662 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 3: you offer health, be genuine about it and be there 663 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: for them absolutely. How can you support them more? You know, 664 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: just even to send messages to follow up, don't you know? 665 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 3: Don't wait three weeks if someone's told you they having 666 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: a tough time. Those sorts of things where all of 667 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 3: us are capable of being kind. 668 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to. 669 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 3: It does, and we all know how to do that, 670 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 3: and none of us are going to do it perfectly, 671 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 3: and not everyone's trained in health. Be the best version 672 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: of a friend or a family member that you are. 673 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: Just be kind because you know there's a time we 674 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: all need somebody. 675 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's why we say Lifeline Beyond Blue. If 676 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: you need help, please reach out right now. 677 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, We're so blessed to have such great services 678 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: here in South Australia. 679 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: Now, male menopause. 680 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 3: I had to throw this way in because there was 681 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 3: a bit in the news about it over the last 682 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 3: week or two saying that men do really go through 683 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 3: a type of menopause, but it's called andropause. 684 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a little bit, but that's a Greek word 685 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 2: for male android. Oh there you go as an android 686 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 2: all of that. 687 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, so excuse me. What we know is that you know, 688 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: men have testosterone with their main hormone, and that slowly 689 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 3: decreases by about one to three percent every year after 690 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: the age of about twenty five. Women have this cyclic 691 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: rollercoaster their whole adult life lugually until they know the 692 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 3: end of reproduction, stop producing eggs. That plays a massive 693 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 3: role in excuse me, in how our hormones are produced, 694 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: so it changes. So andropause is what we call male menopause. 695 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 3: It refers to those age related symptoms that can be 696 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: caused by that gradual decline in those testosterone levels. It's 697 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: not the same as menopause, but some of the common 698 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 3: symptoms are things like fatigue, irritability, decrease, labe erect old dysfunction, 699 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 3: loss of muscle mass, hair loss, things like that. So 700 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 3: while it's often linked to load testosterone, symptoms can also 701 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 3: stem from other conditions, things like your poor sleep, obesity, diabetes. 702 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 3: So always go to your doctor as they can do 703 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: some blood tests to see where you're at and here 704 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 3: you go. But if you're experiencing symptoms like fatigue, irritability, 705 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 3: and mood changes, even difficulty concentrating, sleep disturbances, even men 706 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 3: can have sort of the night sweats. Getting my name wrong, Yes, 707 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 3: forgetfulness is a huge one. But what you can do 708 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 3: is have some blood tests. Anytime someone comes to me 709 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 3: with even menopause symptoms and this and that, I go 710 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: go away. Fix up your hydration, your nutrition, start exercising, 711 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 3: get better sleep, hygiene and better sleep, learn to manage 712 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 3: your stress, get some sunshine. Do all of those things. 713 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 3: Then come to me with what's left. Because all of 714 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 3: those things are within your control. What's left is what 715 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: we need to fix. So same with this sort of stuff, 716 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 3: go and check all them out. First and see what 717 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 3: you can do to fix them, and then we'll go right, 718 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 3: how do we fix the rest? And some people might 719 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: need like hormone replacement and you can do testosterone replacement, 720 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 3: but you know, talk to you doctor because they can 721 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: do some blards. They can make sure everything's in check 722 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 3: and go from there. But we know as we age 723 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: things do change. 724 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Tracy, a great chat and a really wonderful 725 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: segment for International Men's Day today. 726 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, good fun and just to recap, if you 727 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 3: are feeling like the world is hard, you're not coping, 728 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: or you suffering from mental health issues, please reach out 729 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 3: to Lifeline or Beyond Blue. 730 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: Terrific. If people want to find you, they. 731 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 3: Can find me next Tuesday and Wednesday at the Green 732 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 3: Dispensary at Stirling which is unit one forty one Mount Barker, Rhodesterling, 733 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: just on the opposite side to where he used to be. Yep, 734 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 3: where will it used to be? And yeah, I'm there 735 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 3: from nine till two thirty. So if you can't get in, 736 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 3: give us a call on eight double three nine one 737 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 3: three four seven. 738 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: Terrific. Thank you. Tracey. Will see each other on the weekend. 739 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 2: He know we will Saturday. 740 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 3: Very cool the. 741 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: Filling in for Richard Pasco. So I see you then, 742 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: good Thank you Tracy. 743 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: Five double A nice with Matthew Pantellas