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Speaker 1: Better than the legal leg Coop Tedesco.

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Speaker 2: He's played some great games for the Roosters, but he's

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Speaker 2: in his two hundred and fiftieth. It was one of

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Speaker 2: his very very best.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying top five. It was that good. Obviously milestone

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Speaker 3: for him, the club under a bit of pressure in

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Speaker 3: a must win game for them. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: he delivered. And he didn't do anything out of the box.

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Speaker 3: He just did like all the little things. Just super fast,

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Speaker 3: super aggressive, fast in the opposition and that pinball mentality. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was a captain's knock when the club needed.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a very very good performance.

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Speaker 2: It's really funny, it's not Coops when you have It

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Speaker 2: reminded me of one thing we've spoken before about. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: you pick a team which necessarily might not have the

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Speaker 2: best players, but he's going to neck tire team to

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Speaker 2: how they should play. This one's the opposite. This one's like,

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Speaker 2: who's our most important individual? Well, let's build a style

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Speaker 2: of football that's going to bring out the best in them.

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Speaker 2: And I thought Coops the lack of big sequence football,

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Speaker 2: like put it this way, tedesc out of me on

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Speaker 2: Sweet Place looks about six and a half seven out

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Speaker 2: of ten. Dangerous first receiver through the middle, it's about

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Speaker 2: nine to nine a half out of ten.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you'd all also put that penrith performers

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Speaker 3: in terms of that first twenty minutes was the reminder

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Speaker 3: that not only the russ but Toasco, they probably all

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Speaker 3: got back to the basic things doing it better. And

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Speaker 3: when Toasco has been the best player on the field.

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Speaker 3: He's had that perfect balance between sort of yardage hard work,

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Speaker 3: but then that finesse at the at the attacking end

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Speaker 3: of the field. And he did that like some of

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Speaker 3: his touches for Bradley Try and some of that connection

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Speaker 3: there with Kiri as well, like he put it together

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Speaker 3: the good balance of that footing.

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Speaker 2: Couse, when we used to work together, we said, always

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Speaker 2: start a training session where his hats out onto either

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Speaker 2: side of the ruck and we work on just all

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Speaker 2: the time, repainting the harbor bridge, just going over and

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Speaker 2: over on that basic fundamental of how to pull an

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Speaker 2: outside defender, how to get to an outside defender, or

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Speaker 2: how to get bring an outside defender to you a

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Speaker 2: target defender.

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Speaker 1: And I think in twenty twenty four with the.

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Speaker 2: Fast rucks, what Tedesco did for the first trip, Radley

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Speaker 2: was almost picture perfect. Drove deeper than the markers were,

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Speaker 2: two steps forward at the aid offender to the city

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Speaker 2: on his whels and then jump out to the outside.

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Speaker 3: Matter and today's game where everything is sort of sideways

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Speaker 3: and get it on the outside for the winger to score.

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Speaker 3: If you want to go through a team, your first

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Speaker 3: move must be straight and you have to give the threat.

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Speaker 3: You're going to take that first defender off the ruck

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Speaker 3: on the inside shoulder. And the fact that he bounced

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Speaker 3: off Matt Lodgers thought, oh, I have to come to you.

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Speaker 3: And Radley did a great job in terms of pushing.

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Speaker 3: But that movement is like when we work together, it

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Speaker 3: was always hards that did that for work. It's almost

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Speaker 3: now that every player on the field has to have

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Speaker 3: that foot work about a fullback and a kick return.

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Speaker 3: He isolates one defender, moves and goes. Even Isaiaho when

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Speaker 3: he does his ballplane like he does a similar thing.

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Speaker 3: Not as athletic as Tedesco, but that straightness and move left,

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Speaker 3: move right, then bounce out hard. Yeah, there's one on

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Speaker 3: one like if you won on one with the Senate.

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Speaker 3: You have to give the threat you're going to go

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Speaker 3: in and then you could move either way.

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Speaker 2: And like Coope, it's not and it's not a necessity

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Speaker 2: be fast as such at first, but you've got to

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Speaker 2: be rapid.

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Speaker 1: You've got to have that first step quickness.

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Speaker 2: And if we haven't just a little glance again to

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Speaker 2: get that one Scottie is that he speed spooked them

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Speaker 2: so much that Nathan Brown, who was actually two defenders.

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Speaker 1: Out, actually turned in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he's speed was such they spook He spooked

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Speaker 2: them so much that outside of the target defender even

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to strip them on the right of Tedesco, he

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Speaker 3: needs to run left first, if that makes sense. The

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Speaker 3: ability to go in this way brings them in and

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Speaker 3: they go off the back of that. But yeah, sublime ballplane,

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Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter if you're Tedesco, Isaiah. Well, let's

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Speaker 3: say Shawn Johnson and benjaminsh you've got the big skip

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Speaker 2: And we've spoke a lot about Okay, the two most

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Speaker 2: dangerous players in the rooster's lineup. Now that seem's not

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Speaker 2: on the side. Manu and Tedesco how to get operated together.

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Speaker 2: The other night they managed to do it. But I'm

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Speaker 2: drifting across picking up Marno on inside balls, who'd sort

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Speaker 1: So just some nice stuff through the middle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think whenever you get the ball in Marnho's hands.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk around him playing five

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Speaker 3: they're combined and get him across the field, get him

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Speaker 3: so like anything, it's the perfect balance. But right center

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Speaker 3: they need him there. But the more times he can

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Speaker 1: Young playmaker. I reckon keep. You'd have spent a few

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Speaker 2: Smith last week toughest job in Rugby League first Finals game,

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Speaker 2: playing Penrith in Penrith, full stadium, hostile environment.

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Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary returned and.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, he might have one or two hours,

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Speaker 2: but I thought he held his hands up pretty good

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Speaker 1: That was his reward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he scored that try, and that was a pretty

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Speaker 3: good try. Because sometimes you talk about playing Penrith and

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Speaker 3: you going to break down Penrith. Well, the break down

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Speaker 3: Penrith like any other team by going north south first

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Speaker 3: game was good. He really terrorized mainly his defense at

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Speaker 3: I thought his king game was improved and his defense

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Speaker 3: was as well. So look, it doesn't get any easier.

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Speaker 3: You're playing a final series at that young age, Like

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Speaker 3: I remember my first few that you got into them

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Speaker 3: you've got to be dominant, you've got to have an

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Speaker 2: I don't have much of a life cupis hence the

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Speaker 2: reason why I go back and watch whole games. But

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Speaker 2: I saw some of your games in your first final series,

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Speaker 2: went back hadlog and what You've always got to have

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Speaker 2: you played that first final series you didn't try to

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Speaker 2: It was all mainly one meter passes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I played my strengths. I was Tanasius and the

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Speaker 3: way they ran the football and then when I started

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Speaker 3: pass outside of that was basically the English or slater.

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Speaker 3: it was game plan that there was a kick on that,

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Speaker 3: I'd do that. But at this time of year, I

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Speaker 3: think the simpler things are better. Yeah, And whatever you

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Speaker 3: I really loved the mindset of what the Roosters and

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Speaker 3: it was intent and things like one of the best

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Speaker 3: things you can find on intent is I know there

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Speaker 3: was some carnage in the Rooster's Manly Game, but like kickchase,

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Speaker 3: like that is one area that you can define your

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Speaker 3: intent on. And what the Sharks did to the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: it was very good.

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Speaker 1: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Like coops, it takes a lot of hard work to

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Speaker 2: do things simple. Now what I mean I think as

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Speaker 1: You get forward, you play the ball quick, kick well,

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Speaker 2: You don't do those things really well, you're going to

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Speaker 1: And you sit there and go, well, that's really easy.

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Speaker 2: Well it is in theory, but to get out there

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Speaker 3: And I thought, yeah, there was carnage at the start

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Speaker 3: of the Rooster's Manly Game, but Hargroves he returned to

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Speaker 3: the game, he's first carrying. Well, he didn't mean it,

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Speaker 3: and you feel for Kohla, but that was a sign

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Speaker 1: Well, you compare that to the week before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the next one's Lindsay Collins. He's another front row.

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Speaker 3: So just set the tie off two carries, and I

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Speaker 3: think the top four teams playing this weekend. I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what. I think the open exchange is going to

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Speaker 2: First, he thoughts on Manly suason inconsistent. I almost think

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Speaker 2: it's fitting in some ways that the Cowboys and Manly

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Speaker 2: have been eliminated simultaneously because they both of those sides

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Speaker 2: almost been very similar.

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Speaker 1: Hard to follow.

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Speaker 3: I agree middle of the road teams because their defense

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Speaker 3: But if Manly's defense doesn't improve in the off season,

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Speaker 3: they'll do exactly what they did again this year. They'll

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Speaker 3: be good for a period of time. I'll fall back,

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Speaker 3: they will score forty points, then they'll concede thirty and

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Speaker 3: then they'll get to Week two of the finals again.

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Speaker 3: If they want to take that next step, they need

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Speaker 3: to improve defensively, and yeah, I thought the left side

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Speaker 3: of the roosters cause chaos down the right side of

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Speaker 3: Manli's But DC for me has been great at what

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Speaker 3: thirty five thirty six in February twelve months ago he

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Speaker 2: Everybody gets they got at that point if they want

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Speaker 2: It's fast football, it's reactive football, and that sort of

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Speaker 2: And we've said the best football comes from simplicity. Hit

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Speaker 2: We saw for about being one of Tedesco's greatest performances.

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Speaker 1: Coops.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is so crucial to take when you

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Speaker 2: The forwards are going to retain some petrol and tech

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Speaker 3: Because they're energetic in the back film and the hell

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Speaker 3: as when Harry Grant's on Munster and huge step back.

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Speaker 3: And with all the pressure, he became a role player

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Speaker 3: his credit. When you know what, there's a team first

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Speaker 3: mentality here, Brad, keep doing what you're doing and I'll

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about nick O.

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Speaker 2: I was going to talk about Braden first, but let's

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Speaker 2: talk about Nika and I agree with that. One of

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Speaker 2: But what begins so often as measured criticism or critiquing

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Speaker 2: he's been playing within himself. But sometimes, and I've said

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Speaker 2: Trendle went out there the other night and the ball

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Speaker 2: what equal to do one of two things slip back

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Speaker 1: Go out there try to prove.

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Speaker 2: Everyone wrong, demand the football, force yourself into the game,

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Speaker 3: Yep, one hundred percent agree with that. You can't have

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Speaker 3: lot and people will critique it. I think Nico Heines

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Speaker 3: your playing group, not your mentors is irrelevant to be fair,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's I think it's fair that nicko

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Speaker 2: more measured. Well, yeah, and you're vicious. I hear players

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Speaker 2: I'll say this fifty three years of age. For me,

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Speaker 1: But in your.

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Speaker 3: I'll put it this way. Through my career, I think

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Speaker 2: What I like to about Trendle again very similar, Nicko,

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Speaker 2: we said before you know, they better off playing North South.

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Speaker 2: We've done a lot of geography in this show. The

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Speaker 2: better off playing Sidney to Mount Isa than Sydney to Perth.

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Speaker 2: And a playmaker is in charge of that, and I

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Speaker 3: I like his temperament because there was a big game

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Speaker 3: Niko as the origin player, I hope he goes okay today.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to sit back here and hold. But

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Speaker 3: So career best performance from him. It's very good.

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Speaker 2: It was really good Cowboys season. Well, I mean whatever

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Speaker 1: Out and they play fast.

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Speaker 2: But eventually, sometimes through the game, you've got to tick

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Speaker 1: And they just can't seem to do the second.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like just at times they lacked the concentration

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Speaker 2: When they lost by a fraction of that prelim PARAMOUNTA

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Speaker 3: And they changed leadership. They went with did and kind

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Speaker 3: competitiveness defensively and his arrow straight attack, I mean captain

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Speaker 3: They don't need to do anything better attack. They are elites.

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Speaker 1: It's manly defense like Luki. At the end there all

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Speaker 3: Their back rollers like Nana and Luki, like if you're half,

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Speaker 2: Next week Curbs Friday storm versus Roosters in Melbourne and

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Speaker 3: I give both teams a chance. This is strange because

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Speaker 3: I think Storm and Penrith have been on a collision

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Speaker 3: in games where you probably should win and you don't.

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Speaker 3: Why because the other team have that pressure in mentality,

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Speaker 3: the physical or aggressive, they unsettle you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I like the Sharks, but it's going to take their

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Speaker 3: best performance under Craig Fitzgibven.

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Speaker 1: To to like about it.

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Speaker 2: It's the fact that they've had they've had this weight

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Speaker 2: around their neck that was just it's just got heavier

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Speaker 2: and heavier when they keep losing.

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Speaker 1: And another one that the Sharks have lost it again.

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Speaker 2: They can't do pressure on everyone from coach down to rookie.

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Speaker 2: But that win, that that win the other night. It's

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Speaker 2: a big mental adjustment now because they'll go into this game,

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Speaker 2: they'll be buoyed. It'll be much more enjoyable week, and

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Speaker 2: you know what it'll be the other thing, No one's

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Speaker 2: going to really give them a chance.

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Speaker 3: I think there's two things where the Sharks need to dominating.

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Speaker 3: They need to stop Penis back three from being the

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Speaker 3: meta eaters and the energy gives to that pair of team.

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Speaker 3: But what I mean by that is Trindle needs to

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Speaker 3: kick the ball deep and high and give his opposition

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Speaker 3: he's wingers outside back as an opportunity. This is here

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Speaker 3: in Melbourne versus Penrith. The ball goes up and William

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Speaker 3: warbrick Out jumps Edwards, the score a try. You've got

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Speaker 3: Taruvera and Edwards not the tall in the competition Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Another loss from Penrith, the ball goes up Tole comes

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Speaker 3: Forwardaby Savage catches it. So I think the kicking game

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Speaker 3: of Trindle needs to be on and this is the

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Speaker 3: type of kickchase that the Sharks need to do again

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Speaker 3: right and they're outside backs are key to it. Shut

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Speaker 3: down the back three of Penrith. But then also Moltalo, Jesse,

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Speaker 3: Raymian Carter get through and compete on every fifth play

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Speaker 3: on the flip side for them to score points, I

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Speaker 3: think they need to bring out their outside backs. We

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Speaker 3: spoke about and playing north south, but when Cronulla shift

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Speaker 3: the ball from coast to coast and have that let's

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Speaker 3: call fullback mentality of Heinz, Trindle, Kennedy and niker At

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Speaker 3: doing things like that, that's the key.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, Coop.

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Speaker 2: Sideways ball movement is fine as long as there's a

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Speaker 2: corrector there, and the corrector oftentimes, particularly on that right side,

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Speaker 2: is Nickrup. You need, yes, a back rower there. Straight

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Speaker 2: you need to correct push the ball sideways. Every sideways

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Speaker 2: ballman at least needs a short ball option.

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Speaker 3: Because I like Jesse Raymian's athleticism up against Alamoni. I

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Speaker 3: just feel like there's not too many chinks in Pederis defense.

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Speaker 3: But if you can nullify their back three, and then

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Speaker 3: if the Sharks can have that type of intensity to

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Speaker 3: back themselves and shift the ball to their outside bend

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Speaker 3: and give.

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Speaker 2: Them a chance one on one the Roosters versus the

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Speaker 2: storm pack. For the Roosters, you know they need a

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Speaker 2: comprehensive victory and yardage and they play the ball speed.

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Speaker 2: Because when you talk about the major threat coming from

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Speaker 2: the Roosters against the Melbourne Storm.

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Speaker 1: That's what we said before.

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Speaker 2: It's Tedesco drilling through the middle, the major threat, the

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Speaker 2: Storm's major threat. Take your pick, Monster Hughes Grant, perhaps

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Speaker 2: all through the middle in combination, back to back place.

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Speaker 3: Yep. If this is a tight contest, the Roosters will

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Speaker 3: be in with a chance because I think if they're

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Speaker 3: going to go down there and win, it has to

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Speaker 3: be their best defensive performance in a long long time.

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Speaker 3: Because if you think of a play the ball, let's

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Speaker 3: imagine the Rusters defending their troll on. You've got Harry

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Speaker 3: Grant around the ruck. You've got months Are on one side,

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Speaker 3: You've got Hues on the other, You've got Papaous and

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. Every eye, every play the ball needs to

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Speaker 3: be aware of those four because once one of them

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Speaker 3: gets up and going. The Melbourne Storm get a lot

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Speaker 3: of energy from their gun players playing well.

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Speaker 2: And if you look at the history of upsets, coops

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Speaker 2: their defense driven. You can do the things we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: the short kickoff, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: it's driven by an underdog playing with an underdog mentality

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Speaker 2: and attacking them with the defense.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind the short kickoff idea, but it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit like you must get the ball back because

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Speaker 3: if you don't, it's a little of course, the balloon

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Speaker 3: gets popped a little bit. So I don't mind the

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Speaker 3: different approach, but it's got to work. It's almost like

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Yes that mine.

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Speaker 2: You're chipping over the top and it doesn't reserve thanks,

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Speaker 2: who can beat him