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Speaker 1: Hi, friends, fans listeners of this podcast called healthy Ish,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. I am Felicity Haley and

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Speaker 1: of course this is the daily podcast from Body and Soul.

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Speaker 1: Joining me today in the hot seat is our digital

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Speaker 1: editor Holly Berkeleman, and we are talking about the three

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Speaker 1: hottest topics in the health and honess world this week. Holly,

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Speaker 1: welcome to healthy Is.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm good, but I want to hear about you.

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Speaker 1: You just off the plane from Japan.

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Speaker 2: I am just off the plane from Japan. I was

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Speaker 2: there last week with Mechamax and jet Star to launch

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Speaker 2: their new cleansing barn which is called Meltdown, and we

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Speaker 2: went to Osaka in Japan, which was incredible. It was

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Speaker 2: the best week, a real treat to get out and

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Speaker 2: about play with skincare. It was fat.

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Speaker 1: My trip to Aubrey for my son's footy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, highs and lows, but it sounds like that actually was.

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Speaker 1: A whole Actually he made the State AFIL team. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so this is I will be a proud mum and

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Speaker 1: I was very proud. Actually I nearly cried when they

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Speaker 1: they called his name out. So that was a whole

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Speaker 1: lot for.

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Speaker 2: Me, it's amazing. We both had great weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yes, now what about the great week? On body insol

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Speaker 1: dot com?

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Speaker 2: The great week? Every week is a great week, thank you.

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Speaker 2: But my pick for this week is a story called

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Speaker 2: are you Maintenance Dating? Here's why you should be? So

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Speaker 2: this is a first person piece by Sarah Noonan, and

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Speaker 2: she usually writes for the print magazine, but she wrote

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Speaker 2: this one for us, and she basically explains that after

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Speaker 2: a period of going on lots and lots of dates

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Speaker 2: on dating apps, she experienced real fatigue, which I think

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Speaker 2: is very common sentiment, like I certainly go through bouts,

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Speaker 2: have just been completely exhausted by the concept and I

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Speaker 2: smoke bomb for months on end. So she kind of

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Speaker 2: exhausted herself and then ended up doing just that and

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Speaker 2: going on no dates at all, didn't talk to anyone,

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Speaker 2: and her friend suggested she try maintenance dating. So this idea,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't heard of it, but for emerged just

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Speaker 2: after Lockdown, when for a lot of people they hadn't

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Speaker 2: been on a date in months, and the idea of

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Speaker 2: speaking to a complete stranger it was quite overwhelming, which

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Speaker 2: I was in a relationship at the time, so I

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Speaker 2: didn't have that, but that I heard from friends and things.

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Speaker 2: The idea of just suddenly sitting with someone for hours

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Speaker 2: on end who you haven't met, it's quite a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a lot, anyway.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot anyway anyway. So that's where maintenance dating

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Speaker 2: comes in, which suggests that you go on dates with

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Speaker 2: people who you may not usually opt for or when

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Speaker 2: you're not necessarily looking for a relationship, just to grease

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Speaker 2: the wheels, if you will, to keep your skills intact.

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Speaker 2: And it means that when you are ready to date,

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Speaker 2: the idea of getting back out there isn't so scary

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Speaker 2: because you've been dabbling throughout that time and you haven't

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Speaker 2: forgotten how to do it. And you know, one of

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Speaker 2: the great things about that is that means that you

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Speaker 2: might meet people who you may not have necessarily come

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Speaker 2: into contact with before, because you're giving people a chance

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Speaker 2: who maybe I'm a typical pick exactly. So I quite

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Speaker 2: like this concept because as someone who has taken time

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Speaker 2: off dating, it can feel like a really big ask

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Speaker 2: to get back out there. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I guess you don't want to be wasting people's time

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Speaker 2: as well, and going on dates if you're not ready

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Speaker 2: to be in a relationship too. So yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: bit of an interesting idea.

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Speaker 1: I like it. And who knows, you might just meet

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Speaker 1: that person that you're going to be with exactly.

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Speaker 2: They always say you meet them when you're not looking

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Speaker 2: for them. So maybe I'll maintenance date my way into

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Speaker 2: a husband.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well to hear about that, yeah, please do Well,

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Speaker 1: there's no segue into mind And I want to talk

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Speaker 1: today about this concept of nature journaling perfect balance. You

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Speaker 1: like that? Yes, Now, obviously we all know that journaling.

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Speaker 1: Do you journal?

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Speaker 2: I journal in the sense that I write all my

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Speaker 2: thoughts down in my notes app. So I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we can click it absolutely maybe Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of brain dump y, a digital brain dump.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, yes, so I journal. We know that journaling

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Speaker 1: has proven beneficial for mental health. However, whichever form you

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Speaker 1: do it pen to paper, finger.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we also know that spending time in green

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Speaker 1: space can do wonders for our well being. Well, stick

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Speaker 1: them together and you have a winner, low and behold. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so well, the movement has taken off in the US

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Speaker 1: there's a new organization in Australia called the Australian Association

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Speaker 1: of Nature Journaling and it hopes to inspire more people

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Speaker 1: and record what they see.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I never would have guessed that there'd be a

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Speaker 2: full organization for something like that.

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Speaker 1: This is what I had to share this.

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Speaker 2: Story because yes, continue reporting flis Well.

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Speaker 1: What is it all about. It's really what it says

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Speaker 1: on the tin. It's being in nature and journaling and

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Speaker 1: it's all about encouraging you to see the world around

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Speaker 1: you different. I mean it's been like forest bathing. Really.

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Speaker 2: It was about to bring that up. Have you ever

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Speaker 2: done it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I have done it once in South Australia. I was

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Speaker 2: on a trip with the South Australian Tourism Commissioning Commission

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Speaker 2: and we had to walk crownd of forest and then

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Speaker 2: lie under the trees and like you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: connect with the trees and things. It was quite an experience.

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Speaker 1: And amazing for your mental health.

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Speaker 2: It was soothing and just like being outside in the

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Speaker 2: fresh air with no people and things was nice. But

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Speaker 2: it was quite different from the day to day of

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Speaker 2: these hallow halls I can.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean, so imagine you're doing that in

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Speaker 1: South Australia, a great place to do it. But you've

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Speaker 1: also got a pencil case and a notebook, and it's

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Speaker 1: about just sitting there and drawing what you see, So

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Speaker 1: a season and so then you can see how the

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Speaker 1: plant changes or plant as they'd say in South Australia,

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Speaker 1: and you know, just record the whole life cycle, so

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Speaker 1: you don't if you can't draw, it doesn't matter because

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Speaker 1: no one's going to look at your drawers. You can

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Speaker 1: also write about what you see, so you can kind

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Speaker 1: do it in your own backyard. If you live in an apartment,

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Speaker 1: you can do your pop plan on the randa. It's

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Speaker 1: what you see. So forest bathing, but just with some artwork.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess are you meant to talk about

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Speaker 2: specifically how the plants are changing or just it's really

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Speaker 1: It's just about getting out of your head and into nature. Really,

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Speaker 1: and I think you know, we know that it's wondrous

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Speaker 1: for well being. But the other thing, when you're drawing,

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Speaker 1: your phone taking a picture. Yes, so you can actually,

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Speaker 2: Getting back to Darwinian roots and drawing. Well, okay, drawing

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Speaker 2: the birds and what are the finches in the glapa?

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Speaker 2: Guess isn't that what he did? Oh?

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Speaker 1: That just you know your history?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, god holy it was my one year of

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Speaker 2: biology that I did at NAR before I realized that

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Speaker 2: I was a writer.

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Speaker 1: Because when I was writing, when I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: You should. Let's both give it a crack and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about it in next week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just quickly before we go, what was the most

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Speaker 1: clicked story of the week.

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Speaker 2: Most clicked story was the common smoothie mistake you're probably making.

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Speaker 2: So who knew you could really go wrong with a

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Speaker 2: smoothie that. I thought it was kind of chop and blend,

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Speaker 2: which usually I think most people follow a similar process,

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Speaker 2: blending up the fruit, adding milk or water, coconut something

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Speaker 2: like that. However, new research shows that blending two of

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Speaker 2: the most popular smoothie ingredients could be impacting their nutritional value.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what are they?

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Speaker 2: You'll have to click through to see what they are.

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Speaker 2: But they're fruits. They're two popular fruits, and when you

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Speaker 2: blend them, it reduces their nutrient value, which you know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes there's that kind of school of thought that you

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Speaker 1: Them, which is that you should be adding together correct

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Speaker 1: to drink orange juice with steaked.

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Speaker 2: Yes for iron exactly. Well, yes, apparently blending them doesn't

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Speaker 2: make them as good for you, So click through and discover.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Holly, see next week. Bye, Oh Holly, I wish

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Speaker 1: you'd tell us, but no, you can read more. You

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Speaker 1: can read exactly what those ingredients are. I will leave

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Speaker 1: a link to that story about smoothies in the show notes,

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Speaker 1: and also a link to the first one maintenance dating

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Speaker 1: that Holly talked about. If you did enjoy this chat,

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Speaker 1: at Felicity Harley on social media if you have any

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Speaker 1: ideas of things we could talk about on this podcast.

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