Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Charon,
Speaker 1: and let me be clear, I am of course going
Speaker 1: to talk about that interview, but I won't go out
Speaker 1: to the top. There's lots of other things to get to,
Speaker 1: including tonight's no silks, no left He's glad you are here.
Speaker 1: Speaking of that interview, we'll brought apart in a moment
Speaker 1: or two time, including something that may will explain why
Speaker 1: everything was a little bit cranky on both sides of
Speaker 1: that interview. We'll get to that in a second. Some
Speaker 1: strange bedfellows are joining us under the dinner as we
Speaker 1: try to fight the plan of this government to censor
Speaker 1: the Internet. And my favorite lady in the world of
Speaker 1: my favorite sports supercars, the beautiful Betty Clemenco.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: It is the second Peter Brook Trophy behind it. We'll
Speaker 1: have a chat about our Go Chico Go and her
Speaker 1: and a team one Baptist on the weekend. But first
Speaker 1: we've got some problems to the top end of the
Speaker 1: labor party. At the moment we know the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: is well obviously tone deaf when it comes to splashing
Speaker 1: out on the four million dollar joint. When any people
Speaker 1: are not able to hold onto their own homes, let
Speaker 1: alone find a love little joint for when eventually it's
Speaker 1: time to move on. But I also want to talk
Speaker 1: about the Deputy Prime Minister. This is a story which
Speaker 1: has sort of come and gone. It crested while I
Speaker 1: was away for a couple of days. But I want
Speaker 1: to get back to this for a second, and it's
Speaker 1: for once, not a story about him jumping on and
Speaker 1: off private military jets to the great tune of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. Richard Males's former chief of staff has now
Speaker 1: started a series of proceedings against the employer of people
Speaker 1: inside the Parliament. She was his chief of staff and
Speaker 1: credit to the Guardian, who you wouldn't think would be
Speaker 1: the ones that would be leading the charge, but they did,
Speaker 1: with the exclusive story of her time in and around
Speaker 1: the Deputy Prime Minister's office. Now I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but here's what she says happened.
Speaker 3: I know it won't be long now before I am
Speaker 3: bullied out of this place completely. The events of the
Speaker 3: last five months have been devastating. Cut from my job
Speaker 3: and ostracized without warning.
Speaker 1: Now there's a reason I'm bringing this up tonight again
Speaker 1: to the nexus of things about what she did or
Speaker 1: didn't apparently tell her boss, the still Deputy Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: Richard Marts.
Speaker 3: During the flight home from an official trip to Ukraine
Speaker 3: and late April, I raised concerns privately with the Deputy
Speaker 3: Prime Minister about some bullying behavior within the office. He
Speaker 3: acknowledged the concerns, restated the value he placed in me
Speaker 3: and my work, and said we should have a chat
Speaker 3: about it. However, when we returned to Australia, he called
Speaker 3: me and in direct response to the concerns I had raised,
Speaker 3: he made it clear that I should start looking for
Speaker 3: alternative employment.
Speaker 1: And finally, why she is thinking about seeking that alternative employment.
Speaker 3: What I want is for people to know the truth
Speaker 3: and for Richard Miles, as well as those who have
Speaker 3: enabled his behavior, to be held accountable for what has happened.
Speaker 1: Now again, I don't know what happens behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: We've been here before when it comes to Canbra. Those
Speaker 1: are her claims, and I wanted to let you see
Speaker 1: what she had to say. But I want you to
Speaker 1: imagine that that was about a week ago, that if
Speaker 1: the Deputy Prime Minister was Barnaby Joyce not Labour's Richard Martz,
Speaker 1: would there have been the long stretches of silence like
Speaker 1: there have been this week around this story. Now we
Speaker 1: know in previous matters, when the entire press gallery wants
Speaker 1: to they get Cambra Colombo and who knew what? And when?
Speaker 1: And on which day? And what here? And here's the
Speaker 1: photo here? And who checked in here? And what time
Speaker 1: do they walk in and out of this? You know
Speaker 1: what they can do. You know that it can become
Speaker 1: a total obsession from the shallow end of the pond
Speaker 1: all the way through to the supposedly award winning classy
Speaker 1: journalists who we know have done plenty of reporting in
Speaker 1: and around the Canberra bubble, but no a ten really
Speaker 1: to follow up on what's happening in this situation? Does
Speaker 1: this government have a problem with the way that it
Speaker 1: is treating its staff now? So much so and so
Speaker 1: confident is the government that they will not receive the
Speaker 1: same treatment as a Liberal or National Party minister would
Speaker 1: receive that. Richard Marles was up on television this morning
Speaker 1: doing his regular roundabouts on all of the different breakfast shows,
Speaker 1: and full credit to Peter Stefanovic when it was his
Speaker 1: turn to talk to to the Deputy Prime Minister. He
Speaker 1: decided to ask him about this story. The story that,
Speaker 1: as I say, if it was about Barnaby Joyce when
Speaker 1: he was the deputy Prime Minister, it would be all day,
Speaker 1: every day, every paper, every headline, every six pm us
Speaker 1: every single day, with all the different calls for investigations, resignations,
Speaker 1: questions to be answered, standing down while things are being investigated.
Speaker 1: But as I say to Peter stevean Ovik this morning,
Speaker 1: because he went straight.
Speaker 2: In the.
Speaker 4: Minister, have you reached out to your former chief of
Speaker 4: staff since she made claims about treatment in your office.
Speaker 2: Look, Peter, excuse me.
Speaker 5: I spoke about this in the Parliament last week.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously this is a matter which.
Speaker 5: Is of great sadness to me that we are in
Speaker 5: the circumstances that we're in, and I said that in
Speaker 5: the Parliament last week. But this now really is in
Speaker 5: the hands of lawyers, and so I'm very limited in
Speaker 5: what I can say.
Speaker 1: Pete wasn't going to take that.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine, I accept all of that. I'm just
Speaker 4: asking if you've reached out to her and asked if
Speaker 4: she was okay.
Speaker 2: Well, again, I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
Speaker 2: I'm not really in a.
Speaker 5: Position to go into any about it.
Speaker 2: As I said, you know, last week.
Speaker 4: I jove out to it and pick up a phone caller.
Speaker 2: A long time has worked with me over long period,
Speaker 2: and she.
Speaker 5: Is a wonderful person and I'm very grateful for the
Speaker 5: service that she's comparted.
Speaker 4: I haven't picked up the phone to call us.
Speaker 5: This matter of really now is in the hands of lawyers.
Speaker 5: But will Pete, this matter really is in the hands
Speaker 5: of lawyers, and by virtual of that, I'm very limited
Speaker 5: in what I can't say.
Speaker 1: Weld On Pete. It's why we love him, It's why
Speaker 1: you should watch him each and every day along with
Speaker 1: all of our other guys and girls here. They don't
Speaker 1: muck around. Right, Well done, Well done to all of them.
Speaker 1: But again I repeat, this story is now a week old,
Speaker 1: so therefore I talked about it last week. Nothing to
Speaker 1: see here, move on again. Does it not tell you
Speaker 1: about the inherent bias that exists when when the media
Speaker 1: wants to, they will go to the ends of the
Speaker 1: earth to interview any and every person possible. If they
Speaker 1: can move the ball one millimeter compared to the other
Speaker 1: person who's doing the same thing to try to push
Speaker 1: the story forward. I keep calling them the Canberra Columbos,
Speaker 1: trying to look under every rock and find something that's
Speaker 1: going on here. We've seen this in multiple times in
Speaker 1: multiple ways under the previous government, but why not in
Speaker 1: around this situation now? Again, I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: all right. I don't know what this person was or
Speaker 1: wasn't like. I don't know what Miles is like behind
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, and I'm not suggesting anything other
Speaker 1: than what I have presented to you this evening as
Speaker 1: what is publicly available. My comment is if the Deputy
Speaker 1: Prime Minister wasn't Richard Miles and it was Barnaby Joyce,
Speaker 1: would there have been a week's silence in and around
Speaker 1: this story. Now we know that the opposition leader, formerly
Speaker 1: now Prime Minister, made it very clear that he wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about the working environment, particularly for women, in
Speaker 1: and around Parliament. Quite famously he said this in and
Speaker 1: around all the matters to do at the height of
Speaker 1: the Morrison administration.
Speaker 6: We cannot ask the people we represent to make change
Speaker 6: without also making real and lasting change in this very building.
Speaker 6: We must, to put it simply, work the talk.
Speaker 1: The Prime Minister has made multiple media appearances since this
Speaker 1: story appeared in the past week. Why not relentless questioning
Speaker 1: of him, because the promise that he made in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two has clearly fallen apart throughout the government of
Speaker 1: twenty two twenty three are now into twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: and moving away from the Richard Marle situation. There is
Speaker 1: of course some form that was out and about at
Speaker 1: the same time as everyone else wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party's problem with female staffers, the great need
Speaker 1: to change everything, because it was only one sign of
Speaker 1: politics that had a problem. Remember more than fifty labor
Speaker 1: staffers who at the time were out and about on
Speaker 1: Facebook talking about their experiences with politicians current and former,
Speaker 1: some who may well be in the cabinet, the ministry,
Speaker 1: backbenches or people who served in all of those roles
Speaker 1: in years gone by. A reminder, the Prime Minister says,
Speaker 1: we must walk the talk. Well, clearly something's gone wrong
Speaker 1: when it comes to somebody pretty significant and senior, a
Speaker 1: chief of staff at the Deputy Prime Minister's office. Again,
Speaker 1: what I'm about to read you is not connected to
Speaker 1: anything to do with Richard Marles, and we'll be very
Speaker 1: clear with that this is just broader issues that again,
Speaker 1: if the media wanted to go and dig, they would
Speaker 1: have dug. But they didn't want to dig because there
Speaker 1: was only one problem they were going after. This is
Speaker 1: apparently a labour staffer talking about a labor MP or minister.
Speaker 1: I don't know which, I don't know when. He is
Speaker 1: a man who punches the wall next to female staffers heads,
Speaker 1: calling her dot dot when she passes on news he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear. Fifty five of these there were.
Speaker 1: He is a married man who plied young a young
Speaker 1: woman with drinks until she had no idea what was happening.
Speaker 1: He promised others at the Gatherer that he would get
Speaker 1: her home safely, but before putting her in a cab,
Speaker 1: he had sex with her and she had no ability
Speaker 1: to consent. The next day he texted her to demand
Speaker 1: that she took the morning after pill and blamed her
Speaker 1: for what happened, saying she was so drunk that she
Speaker 1: came on to him. He also threatened her to tell
Speaker 1: no one. When all this was out and about. At
Speaker 1: the height of the conversation about a need to deal
Speaker 1: with the workplace of Parliament. Former Deputy Labor Leader Jennie
Speaker 1: Macklin came out very publicly to say this was something
Speaker 1: that needed to be dealt with, but she, of course
Speaker 1: is no longer in the parliament. So my attention turns
Speaker 1: to the Environment Minister Tanya Plebasek, the Finance Minister Katie
Speaker 1: Gallaher and fellow cabinet member Annika Wells, because in response
Speaker 1: to the fifty five women who had something to say,
Speaker 1: this is what they wrote in reply, we see you,
Speaker 1: we hear you, and are truly sorry that you have
Speaker 1: had these experiences working in the party. As parliamentarians were
Speaker 1: committed to making sure that these matters are dealt with
Speaker 1: seriously and respectfully. If you want to take matters further,
Speaker 1: we will keep working on to change his culture so
Speaker 1: other women don't have to go what you have. That
Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty one. Something was clearly a miss
Speaker 1: that you see a high profile staffer come out and
Speaker 1: say what has been said a week ago. Yet despite
Speaker 1: the fact that you have three sitting members of the
Speaker 1: cabinet who the media should be going to for comment
Speaker 1: about the situation that happened in and around the executive
Speaker 1: officers of this federal government, nothing happens. The Prime Minister
Speaker 1: does multiple media appearances, nothing happens. The Deputy Prime Minister
Speaker 1: is so confident he will not get asked about it
Speaker 1: that he just books morning television appearances. Thankfully, Peter Stefanovic
Speaker 1: decided to bring it up. So I simply say this again.
Speaker 1: If it was Arnabie Joyce who was the Deputy Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: would this silence have been there? You and I both
Speaker 1: know it would not have been the case. So could
Speaker 1: somebody please explain to all those people who were so
Speaker 1: virtuous and so detailed last time, what are you doing
Speaker 1: this time? And why cost still number one issue in
Speaker 1: the country, regardless of what's happening in the other parts
Speaker 1: of the politics or of course overseas. And we all
Speaker 1: know that cost of living has got worse in this
Speaker 1: country because of the behavior of this federal government. Remember
Speaker 1: it was their decision to take fifteen hundred dollars automatically
Speaker 1: off ten million workers at the height of cost of
Speaker 1: living in twenty twenty three. Remember it got worse throughout
Speaker 1: twenty three and is even worse today. But we know
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister thinks well as in the same way
Speaker 1: that they were able to get away with a dozen
Speaker 1: interest rate rises because it was nothing to do with them.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the Reserve Bank responding to the government putting
Speaker 1: too much spending money into the economy and thus overstimulating it. No, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no. It was all that evil mustache twirling Reserve
Speaker 1: Bank people who keep putting up interest rates so we know.
Speaker 1: When it comes to cost of living, the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: thinks it's all about your local supermarket.
Speaker 6: My government is concerned about the price of what consumers
Speaker 6: pay at Couls and Woollies and other supermarkets. We want
Speaker 6: to make sure that consumers benefit from cheaper prices which
Speaker 6: are being paid. We're dead serious. We find it completely
Speaker 6: unacceptable that when supermarkets are getting goods cheaper the prices
Speaker 6: should go down.
Speaker 1: Well, the Prime Minister wants Australians to turn on the supermarkets.
Speaker 1: And yes, the supermarkets certainly when it comes to the agriple,
Speaker 1: ce have got cases to answer about some of the
Speaker 1: so called discounts that we're being put in front of them.
Speaker 1: But we've got a poll today that shows the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister may actually have his scapegoat that he can ride
Speaker 1: between now and the next election. The opinion poll which
Speaker 1: was released by the Channel nine newspapers. We're not reporting
Speaker 1: on their own organization. Well on Ali Langdon Tonight in particular,
Speaker 1: and well under Sharry Markson for making this story become
Speaker 1: what it has. In twenty twenty two, just twelve percent
Speaker 1: of people on a negative opinion about the supermarkets, twenty
Speaker 1: four percent in twenty twenty three, and now it's forty
Speaker 1: two percent, with thirty four percent neutral and just twenty
Speaker 1: three percent of people impositive. Oh, just miraculously to help
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister. The think tank that often supplies the
Speaker 1: ideas to the Greens that often get adopted by the
Speaker 1: Labor Party, the Australian Institute, says this. The new polling,
Speaker 1: which has been released by them today, finds that eighty
Speaker 1: three percent of oneenty fourteen people who they spoke to
Speaker 1: said that supermarkets deserved some blame or a great deal
Speaker 1: of blame when it came to the rising cost of
Speaker 1: living anger directed at supermarkets. It edged out the energy
Speaker 1: companies at eighty three percent, just one percent below the supermarkets,
Speaker 1: banks at seventy three percent, and the government at seventy
Speaker 1: one percent. Six out of ten people said that the
Speaker 1: most notable signs of increasing cost of living came from
Speaker 1: groceries twenty one percent, electricity utilities seven percent are noticing
Speaker 1: it when it comes to transport. Now again, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to sit here and seeing the tune of the supermarkets,
Speaker 1: but I am going to sing the fairness tune, which
Speaker 1: is as I said to you before. Anyone who thinks
Speaker 1: that the total cost of what you are charged at
Speaker 1: a supermarket is completely and totally for the profit margin
Speaker 1: of the supermarket does not understand how things work. Those
Speaker 1: packets don't grow there. They have to be sourced from
Speaker 1: a supply, They have to be transported, They have to
Speaker 1: be either chilled or in a place that soaks up
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars of power each and every week. Of course,
Speaker 1: the people who work in those supermarkets, their wages may
Speaker 1: well go up, or you may hire more people, meaning
Speaker 1: the cost of being the supermarket continues to go up.
Speaker 1: But I know that's not going to exist in the
Speaker 1: nuanced argument now that the Pignarda of the supermarket is
Speaker 1: going to be go from essential and absolute as it
Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty when all of those people were
Speaker 1: working their backsides off, when we didn't know what was
Speaker 1: going on when it comes to COVID to now, oh,
Speaker 1: the absolute front line of everything. That's terrible when it
Speaker 1: comes to cost of living. But just a little reminder,
Speaker 1: if the Prime Minister wants to keep going this way,
Speaker 1: there is going to be a problem which we have
Speaker 1: started to notice over a few months. The unions build
Speaker 1: the cat on this late last year, they repeat it
Speaker 1: this year. The number of people who are abusing the
Speaker 1: people who work for the supermarket. Now, let's be very clear,
Speaker 1: and the same way that the bank teller is not
Speaker 1: the CEO of the bank. The person who is stocking
Speaker 1: your groceries, is serving you at the deli, or is
Speaker 1: serving you at the checkout, is not the CEO of
Speaker 1: the supermarket. So the Prime Minister has to be careful
Speaker 1: here because while it's one thing to try to find
Speaker 1: the political pinard, the people who are actually getting verbally
Speaker 1: and at times physically hit are the people who are
Speaker 1: working on the front line for the supermarket. Here's the union.
Speaker 7: Eighty five percent of our members report ben abuse to
Speaker 7: the workplace over the last two years, fifteen to sixteen percent.
Speaker 8: Terribly, it's been actually physical assaults in the workplace.
Speaker 1: Now, what do you think could bring the Churches of Australia,
Speaker 1: the Australian Christian Lobby, and the Human Rights Commission all
Speaker 1: to the same conclusion at the same time. Well, none
Speaker 1: other than the great unifier in terms of bad ideas,
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister and his Communications Minister. Why because, as
Speaker 1: you know, they seek to censor the Internet. All of
Speaker 1: it's apparently about misinformation reality. As you know, it's the
Speaker 1: government deciding what is true, what is allowed to be spread.
Speaker 1: Pretty things that they don't want out there they would
Speaker 1: rule as disinformation using left wing fact checkers, and then
Speaker 1: bureaucrats working for the government would find a way to
Speaker 1: eventually get this stuff either removed from the Internet. Will
Speaker 1: make it so difficult or so annoying for the social
Speaker 1: media companies that they just won't post things that come
Speaker 1: from news organizations or comment pieces like what I delivered
Speaker 1: to you each and every night. In a story which
Speaker 1: was headlined about Sarah Hanson Young who cares, there is
Speaker 1: a little more detail in here that shows you about
Speaker 1: who is actually joining the fight that we have been
Speaker 1: on now for the best part of a year, about
Speaker 1: fighting the censoring of the Internet. Forget this misinformation garbage.
Speaker 1: It ain't about that it's about censoring the Internet. Let's
Speaker 1: start first with the Australian Christian Lobby today, who so
Speaker 1: that one of their concerns about this bill is that
Speaker 1: it has the potential to stifle the process through which
Speaker 1: knowledge moves on. The misinformation of today may be proven
Speaker 1: to be correct tomorrow correct see all the COVID stuff right.
Speaker 1: The new information may come to displace the incumbent orthodoxies
Speaker 1: of the day. This is the process of progress. The
Speaker 1: Australian Christian Lobbies Elizabeth Taylor goes on to sorry. The
Speaker 1: Human Rights Commission's Lorraine goes on to say today that
Speaker 1: we don't feel that the bill in its current form
Speaker 1: strikes the right balance in terms of protections that it provides,
Speaker 1: particularly for freedom of expression see Human Rights Commission. Right,
Speaker 1: they couldn't be left yet. And then of course you
Speaker 1: have traditional conservative values from the right in the churches.
Speaker 1: They're in the same place bin the bill. Do not
Speaker 1: censor the Internet the protections in and around freedom of expression.
Speaker 1: That's a harm that we say is very real based
Speaker 1: on the current drafting of the legislation, which by the way,
Speaker 1: is the same position of what the former drafting was.
Speaker 1: So they haven't fixed the bill. They just tried to
Speaker 1: throw a bit of glitter on it. But it's a
Speaker 1: harm that's actually very hard to measure because we simply
Speaker 1: don't know to what extent that self censorship might occur.
Speaker 1: Correct if you think that you may end up getting
Speaker 1: a fine, If the social media company thinks it may
Speaker 1: end up getting a fine, they will just go, you
Speaker 1: know what, We're just not doing this. Australia is just
Speaker 1: too small fry, which means the government gets to tell
Speaker 1: you what's true and not true, and if you have
Speaker 1: any form of evidence or an alternative opinion that you
Speaker 1: can back up that, like your old English teacher used
Speaker 1: to your math's teacher used to say, show working and
Speaker 1: you can show you working. Still, left wing fact checkers
Speaker 1: strike it bureaucrats, they issue the fine. The chilling effect
Speaker 1: is obvious. This is a country that, at the height
Speaker 1: of COVID, arrested a woman in her pajamas because she
Speaker 1: promoted promoted a rally, nothing else. Thousands of posts were
Speaker 1: pulled down, including jokes about Dan Andrews. I do not
Speaker 1: trust the same people who had that power to have
Speaker 1: more of it. You shouldn't either, And thank goodness we
Speaker 1: have both the churches and the Australian Human Rights Commission
Speaker 1: and most of the media organizations where we have been
Speaker 1: for a year, ditch this bad idea. So first it
Speaker 1: was Oprah Winfrey for Kamala Harris to tell us why
Speaker 1: she should be the next president of the United States.
Speaker 1: Of course this was really a campaign event and was
Speaker 1: more of an advertorial. Then of course there was the
Speaker 1: view where she got the standing ovation, yet still could
Speaker 1: an answer a question about what was different about the
Speaker 1: next four years in the last four years. Well, as
Speaker 1: you know today, she was on Fox News one and
Speaker 1: only time she'll turn up there, and she's doing so
Speaker 1: because she is behind in the polls. Now. I watched
Speaker 1: this thing live. I gave reaction to it live with
Speaker 1: Laura Jays. I was delighted to be on her program
Speaker 1: earlier today, and I've watched it a couple of times since,
Speaker 1: because my first sense was this strangely kind of agro
Speaker 1: tone at the very start of it from both the
Speaker 1: person asking the questions, who I thought did an excellent job,
Speaker 1: and of course Kamala Harris, who was there for the
Speaker 1: fight in order to get all of the left used
Speaker 1: to go yah, you took on Fox News. Well, this
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a thirty minute interview. It was
Speaker 1: supposed to start at five pm. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: conclude at five point thirty so the production team at
Speaker 1: Fox News would be able to turn it around and
Speaker 1: play it on the show the Brittbay hosts at six
Speaker 1: pm in the United States eight and every night. But
Speaker 1: guess what, she turned up light and they tried to
Speaker 1: shrink the amount of time, which might explain why he
Speaker 1: went in so hard so early. His Britt explaining how
Speaker 1: they tried to move the goalposts.
Speaker 9: So we were supposed to start at five pm. This
Speaker 9: was the time they gave us. Originally, we're going to
Speaker 9: do twenty five or thirty minutes. They came in and said,
Speaker 9: well maybe twenty. So it was already getting whittled down.
Speaker 9: And then the vice president showed up about five point fifteen.
Speaker 9: We were pushing the envelope to be able to turn
Speaker 9: it around for the top of the six o'clock. So
Speaker 9: that's how it started. And I could tell when we
Speaker 9: started talking that she was going to be tough to to,
Speaker 9: you know, redirect without me trying to interrupt her.
Speaker 1: Now without boring you about the technology, He normally works
Speaker 1: out of Washington, but as you can say, that interview
Speaker 1: was happening in Pennsylvania, which meant that it had to
Speaker 1: be sent back to the head office, which is why,
Speaker 1: as the tape is rolling, you have to stop it
Speaker 1: at the end and then turn it around. It's digital now,
Speaker 1: But you get my point. There is a little moment
Speaker 1: of time to turn things around. By deliberately turning up
Speaker 1: late and then trying to speed things up, she knows
Speaker 1: that there's going to be less time for the conversation.
Speaker 1: So Brett Baer basically decided to start the interview in
Speaker 1: the middle of the conversation and hit her straight between
Speaker 1: the eyes.
Speaker 9: How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has
Speaker 9: released into the country over the last three and a
Speaker 9: half years.
Speaker 10: Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because
Speaker 10: I agree with you. It is a topic of discussion
Speaker 10: that people want to rightly have and you know what
Speaker 10: I'm going to talk about.
Speaker 2: But you're just a number.
Speaker 9: Do you think it's one million, three million?
Speaker 10: Brett, Let's just get to the point, okay. The point
Speaker 10: is that we have a broken immigration system that needs
Speaker 10: to be repaired.
Speaker 1: She doesn't know because she doesn't care. The answer is
Speaker 1: that it's millions of people. Some estimates are about ten some
Speaker 1: estimates at about six million. Think about that, ten million
Speaker 1: people crossing into your country from both the north and
Speaker 1: the south in less than four years. That is the
Speaker 1: population of entire states, That is the population of many
Speaker 1: significant cities. That is literally the population of well about
Speaker 1: a third of this country. He goes on to confront
Speaker 1: her with the names of people who have been killed
Speaker 1: by people who should not have been in the country. She,
Speaker 1: of course has no idea who these people are and
Speaker 1: wants to somehow make it Donald Trump's fault. Have a
Speaker 1: look at.
Speaker 9: This well and Hungary, Rachel Morn, Lincoln Riley. They are
Speaker 9: young women who were brutally assaulted and killed by some
Speaker 9: of the men who were released at the beginning of
Speaker 9: the administration well before and negotiated bipartisan bills as well,
Speaker 9: before Ronald Trump got involved in the politics. This is
Speaker 9: a specific policy decision by your administration to release these
Speaker 9: men into the country. So what I'm saying to you,
Speaker 9: do you know, I think an apology.
Speaker 10: Let me just say, first of all, those are tragic cases.
Speaker 10: There's no question about that, and there's no question about that,
Speaker 10: and I can't imagine the pain that the families of
Speaker 10: those victims experience. Happened to days determine whether we have
Speaker 10: a president of the United States who actually cares more
Speaker 10: about fixing a problem, even if it is not to
Speaker 10: their political advantage in an election. Because there was a solution,
Speaker 10: Brett ma and.
Speaker 9: Vice President, it was a policy decision in the early
Speaker 9: part of your administration.
Speaker 1: I relect the borderie.
Speaker 10: The Biden Harris administration. Open border policies are responsible for
Speaker 10: the death of my daughter.
Speaker 9: That's the early days. So do you hold them an apologies?
Speaker 2: I shall tell you.
Speaker 10: That I am so sorry for her last. I'm so
Speaker 10: sorry for her last. Sincerely, what about a story, But
Speaker 10: let's talk about what is happening this with an individual
Speaker 10: who does not want to participate in solutions.
Speaker 1: That is a whole other level. Right now. We all
Speaker 1: know politicians, when they get asked a question they don't
Speaker 1: want to answer, they'll try to find a way out
Speaker 1: of it. The question is direct, excellent idea, excellent idea
Speaker 1: to play grabs by the way to her. So she
Speaker 1: saw all of that, so she can't proteend she doesn't
Speaker 1: know she sees the brevity, she sees the seriousness of
Speaker 1: the situation off to Donald Trump. And by the way,
Speaker 1: when she talks about some sort of border fix, this
Speaker 1: bill that never was going to happen. It was going
Speaker 1: to let in five thousand people a day before they
Speaker 1: would close the border. Times through sixty five, it's more
Speaker 1: than a million more than a Midian people under her fix,
Speaker 1: by the way, would still be able to wander into
Speaker 1: the country, potentially going on to work or in some
Speaker 1: cases commit crimes. By the way, a person who crossed
Speaker 1: into the border under this administration has just been arrested recently.
Speaker 1: Their plan was a terrorist attack on election day. Yet
Speaker 1: to lefties immigration, it's just some sort of coded racism thing. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's a safety thing. If you don't have a boarder,
Speaker 1: you don't have a country. There is nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: that position. Well, this garbage, of course, it all just
Speaker 1: goes on where the real purpose of her going on
Speaker 1: Fox News was to gin up all of the people
Speaker 1: who were already voting for her by dialing it up
Speaker 1: to eleven and going as hard as Joe Biden did
Speaker 1: when he was losing in the polls by a very
Speaker 1: significant margin. But it was all about Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: the next coming of the devil.
Speaker 10: He's unstable.
Speaker 9: Stable, he is unstable, he's not well. You say, he's
Speaker 9: mentally not stable as you and many interviewers.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Nice. They put the ramp in for Joe just
Speaker 1: in case he was going to turn up by the
Speaker 1: way during the interview, and finally the whole thing was
Speaker 1: wrapped up by her staff. They know how bad this was.
Speaker 1: As much as Twitter's going to news, you put them
Speaker 1: in their place? Did you see a president just then?
Speaker 1: I didn't when I saw that thirty minutes.
Speaker 10: And best fighting force in the world.
Speaker 9: Madam Vice president and giving me a hard rap.
Speaker 2: Well, I thank you for the time.
Speaker 9: I thank you for the time to me too, Thank
Speaker 9: you very much, thank you.
Speaker 1: She hated every second of it. It had all the
Speaker 1: warmth of I haven't been through one, but I'm assuming
Speaker 1: what it's like to divide your property up during a divorce.
Speaker 1: Why did she go on? She had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: speak to people who wouldn't normally see her for thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: and she would be able to turn around and say, look, break,
Speaker 1: let's calm down, let's have a conversation. There was why
Speaker 1: she could have changed that. Instead, the whole point was, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just here with the zoo animals. Look how crazy
Speaker 1: they all are. So let's look at the reviews first.
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, I think I agree with his worldview here.
Speaker 11: Kamala Harris just completed her interview with Brett Baer on
Speaker 11: Fox News and it was, as advertised, a complete bleep show.
Speaker 11: Wow wow, wow, wow wow. I thought it was not
Speaker 11: going to be great. I did not think it was
Speaker 11: going to be that not great.
Speaker 1: Iiver on MSNBA say, of course, she's a bomber in
Speaker 1: a pant suit.
Speaker 8: Moments ago, Harris even ventured into the hostile television territory.
Speaker 8: The Vice President managed to wrestle away from migrant crisis
Speaker 8: fear marngering to address the stakes of this election.
Speaker 1: Showing footage of the family members of three women who
Speaker 1: have been killed as a result of the As for
Speaker 1: the middle I probably agree with this too. Mark Halprin
Speaker 1: is a man who is well known to those of
Speaker 1: us that are obsessed with American politics, or at least
Speaker 1: talk about it a lot on the TV. He says
Speaker 1: not much.
Speaker 7: Most people I've talked to, in my own judgment is
Speaker 7: it's not going to impact the race. She did well
Speaker 7: in some ways, I think, in poorly in others. I
Speaker 7: think if you're inclined to be critical of her, you'd
Speaker 7: say she was evasive, you'd say she was angry, you'd
Speaker 7: say that she was overrehearsed, and you'd say she didn't
Speaker 7: deliver a sound bye. And she had a phrase she
Speaker 7: used a couple of times on tough questions, I will
Speaker 7: enforce the law for the laws of the nation. To me,
Speaker 7: that's rape to become the new no controlling legal authority.
Speaker 7: It's a meaningless expression.
Speaker 1: The latest polls tonight, Donald Trump, on the average is
Speaker 1: in front in most, if not all, of the swing states.
Speaker 1: There was also a pole which is put out by
Speaker 1: Fox News Today that shows that Trump is actually winning
Speaker 1: in the national vote fifty to forty eight. When it
Speaker 1: comes to the issues, Donald Trump is preferred by voters
Speaker 1: on the war in the Middle East, the economy, crime, guns, taxes,
Speaker 1: as well as immigration. Kamala Harris has a clear lead
Speaker 1: on election integrity, health care, climate change, and of course abortion.
Speaker 1: But also worth voting here too, is about whether people
Speaker 1: are voting for or against a candidate. In this Fox
Speaker 1: News poll, sixty six percent of people who plan to
Speaker 1: vote Democrat are doing so to vote for Harris, thirty
Speaker 1: five percent of voting against Trump. That's why the whole
Speaker 1: tone of her interview was the against Trump bit. As
Speaker 1: for those that are voting Republican, eighty percent of voting
Speaker 1: for Trump and less than twenty percent are voting against Harris.
Speaker 1: Lots more between now and then we will discuss this
Speaker 1: and a whole lot more, including some big news of
Speaker 1: the day and whether the Prime Minister and his deputy
Speaker 1: are just getting a bit too big for their bridges.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, Nooks, no Lefties, and the wonderful
Speaker 1: Benny Clemenco reflecting on a great battist win. We're only
Speaker 1: halfway through four monthly life Thanks watch. Thank you to
Speaker 1: my mate Heath, who's just sent me a text message
Speaker 1: saying that I look with the black shirt like Philip Adams.
Speaker 2: Is that a compliment?
Speaker 1: I'm watching you. I hope you're having a good time mate,
Speaker 1: All the best of your dad too. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it right now. None other than Michael Kroger,
Speaker 1: who is well, he's ready to well just walk the
Speaker 1: streets of Melbourne inform people about their opinions. And the otherwise.
Speaker 1: You know, free hugs, all the rest of it. Henry Pike,
Speaker 1: of course, as a member of the LMP and the
Speaker 1: Federal Parliament, joins us now from Brisbane, Michael, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the Prime Minister and his deputy. Now. It feels
Speaker 1: like these guys are so confident that the worst possible
Speaker 1: result out of the next election is a minority government.
Speaker 1: And that's fine. They're all lefties, they'll back us all
Speaker 1: in that. It doesn't matter if you're buy the house
Speaker 1: for four and a bit million dollars. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if there's issues when it comes to the staffing. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into the weeds on that,
Speaker 1: but it's just they are carrying themselves with something that
Speaker 1: is above confidence and we're starting to get to a
Speaker 1: level of hubris here that I think people can smell.
Speaker 1: Am I just a hater? Or do you smell a
Speaker 1: t No?
Speaker 12: No, no, no, you're not a year You smell it
Speaker 12: and everyone can smell everyone can see it. Don't forget
Speaker 12: four point three million dollar purchase price attracts two hundred
Speaker 12: and twenty thousand dollars in additional stamp duty as well.
Speaker 12: By the way, so it's over four point five million
Speaker 12: when you add in the state government's five percent. No mate,
Speaker 12: I'm gobsmacked that a person like Albow who has built
Speaker 12: his brand on the fact that he came from Struggles
Speaker 12: Street to Quite Alan Jones to the position where he
Speaker 12: is now as primus the country but playing as a
Speaker 12: property develop a property investor. I mean, he's been a
Speaker 12: public service salary and MP's salary for twenty eight years.
Speaker 12: But he's able to be built up millions. He's built
Speaker 12: up millions and millions of dollars in profits. Good luck
Speaker 12: to him. Clever investing, Nothing wrong with that, but when
Speaker 12: you know, if you're making your name as a property developer,
Speaker 12: a property spooker, that's how I made my money. Fine,
Speaker 12: But his whole backstory has been you know, I'm just
Speaker 12: a poor boy from a from a housing can property
Speaker 12: and to throw it in the face of everybody, he've
Speaker 12: been effectively four point five million a few months before
Speaker 12: an election. Given the house in cristis high infrastrates, people
Speaker 12: can't put food on the table. I mean, this guy
Speaker 12: gives every impression he's headed for the exit, doesn't. He's
Speaker 12: about to get married and he's waught a.
Speaker 2: Hole of the house.
Speaker 12: He looks like he's headed for the exit. And after
Speaker 12: twenty nine years in Parliament, which will be next March,
Speaker 12: he's saying to people, are one another four for thirty
Speaker 12: three years?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 12: Is he going to go the full next term? This
Speaker 12: guy's headed for the exit and everyone can smell it, mate.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the other thing, Henry is it's this sense
Speaker 1: of it again. It is just this sense we can
Speaker 1: do no wrong because even when we do do wrong,
Speaker 1: we know the media won't follow up, right, which brings
Speaker 1: us again back to that, to that question in and
Speaker 1: around if it had been a liberal minister, a liberal
Speaker 1: prime minister, I mean again, right, I'm not wailing on Barnaby,
Speaker 1: but we get the point right if the names were different. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're forensic on who on what day and where and
Speaker 1: what and quick you know, off to four Corners and
Speaker 1: seventeen special episodes of seven thirty report, but no such
Speaker 1: inquiry here. I know that there's nothing surprising about this,
Speaker 1: but it is worth underlining to people watching about that
Speaker 1: often bias comes through omission. What they won't talk about,
Speaker 1: what they won't follow up, what they won't go Canberra
Speaker 1: Columbo on you're exactly right, Paul. There's obviously two standards.
Speaker 13: And of course if something like this, if either of
Speaker 13: these stories that occurred in the dying days of the
Speaker 13: last government, this would have been weeks of media coverage.
Speaker 13: Both these stories have largely run their course now, but
Speaker 13: I think for most astraints are looking at these and going, well,
Speaker 13: why why are they so distracted? Why is the Prime
Speaker 13: Minister focusing on is where he's going to be living
Speaker 13: in his retirement. Why is the Deputy prime Minister worried
Speaker 13: about his staffing arrangements and what's going on in there.
Speaker 13: We don't want them distracted. We want them focusing on
Speaker 13: what matters to them. They should be having a laser
Speaker 13: like focus on what matters to people right now, including
Speaker 13: the cost of living crisis, and instead all they're seeing
Speaker 13: is distraction from this government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Buddy Oath they are. But we remain laser focused.
Speaker 1: We will continue to do so. Former staff of the
Speaker 1: Gillard Rudd time was out and about writing in the
Speaker 1: channelin newspapers this week that minority government.
Speaker 2: Is it really that bad?
Speaker 1: Michael? If that's where we seem to be headed, given
Speaker 1: where the polls are, would you like to remind this
Speaker 1: person and everyone else watching right now. What having to
Speaker 1: ask half a dozen people every single time you want
Speaker 1: to pass anything, including a motion to wrap up and
Speaker 1: go to dinner, is going to be a problem for
Speaker 1: the country.
Speaker 12: This will be a disasked if you think, if you
Speaker 12: think the senate's a disaster as it is, a government
Speaker 12: never knows whether they're going to get their legislation through
Speaker 12: or not. They've got a horse trade all day, all night, right,
Speaker 12: their legislation comes out as a dog's breakfast in the end.
Speaker 12: That by two I mean in the lower House we're
Speaker 12: going to have a minority government. If Albo gets gets
Speaker 12: he's not going to get He's not going to have
Speaker 12: a minority government, zero chance of that. But he's going
Speaker 12: to get. You know, I've got him on six. If
Speaker 12: he gets a few more than that, he cobbles together
Speaker 12: a few Greens and others, Yeah, it's accurately possible he'll
Speaker 12: get back to seventy six and be in government. What
Speaker 12: a mess that would be. I mean, he's going to
Speaker 12: need eight or ten cross benches to support him when
Speaker 12: he's trying to get legislations through. They'll give him support
Speaker 12: on supply and confidence if he can cobble seventy six together.
Speaker 12: But as you say, every piece of legislation, every division,
Speaker 12: every question time, questions, the whole thing will be a
Speaker 12: complete fiasco. And in the end, I think the other
Speaker 12: people can smell. People can smell this is coming, and
Speaker 12: they're not lying it. That's why I think that'ton the
Speaker 12: slight favorite to win this election. Made as I said
Speaker 12: last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Henry even down to very practical matters, right,
Speaker 1: So for whatever reason, you can't be in Canberra that day,
Speaker 1: so you've got the issue this thing called a pair
Speaker 1: right where your vote matches off the other person's vote
Speaker 1: when you need everything, they're never given out. Just the
Speaker 1: practicality of those three years might be great for the
Speaker 1: Teals to say, oh, well we're going to be at
Speaker 1: the heart of the conversation, We're going to be right
Speaker 1: in the middle of things. But the reality is that
Speaker 1: it is just this dog's breakfast.
Speaker 13: It will be a complete dog's breakfast. But beyond the
Speaker 13: practicality is what I'm really worried about is where the
Speaker 13: ideological direction will go. If you think way Albanezy government
Speaker 13: is bad, now imagine I how farther left they're going
Speaker 13: to be pulled by the Teals and the Greens. And
Speaker 13: don't forget that the Teals are way out there on
Speaker 13: a lot of these policy issues in further than the Greens.
Speaker 13: So if they're the ones who are calling the shots
Speaker 13: and have a gun to the Prime Minister's head, this
Speaker 13: is going to be an absolute disaster for the country
Speaker 13: and it's going to make those Gillard years that we're
Speaker 13: written about this week really do look like a Golden
Speaker 13: Nearer in comparison.
Speaker 1: Now we all know that the Queensland Labor government is
Speaker 1: superfluous too. Needs hopefully the good people of Queensland they flush,
Speaker 1: as I have said in the past, they get the
Speaker 1: domestos out, get rid of the stains, goodbye. All right,
Speaker 1: all the Poles seem to point in that direction. But
Speaker 1: but bah bah bah bah, but no, not ihing is
Speaker 1: inevitable in twenty nineteen. Federally, don't assume your neighbor's going
Speaker 1: to do it. Make sure that your preferences they matter.
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is vitally important when it comes
Speaker 1: to the polling question. The exit polling seemed very good,
Speaker 1: where there was a growth in labor in a Liberal
Speaker 1: part or LNP vote in some seats of twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: But Cruci Fooley says, yep, great, awesome, I'll ride the wave,
Speaker 1: but I ain't saying we've done it yet. They're not
Speaker 1: the numbers of drivers.
Speaker 4: They can't be when you think about what Queensland's going
Speaker 4: through at the moment.
Speaker 1: We've got an ambulance ramping at forty five percent.
Speaker 2: That drives me.
Speaker 1: All right, Henry, You're going to be confident but nervous
Speaker 1: because you obviously want the same result that most people
Speaker 1: watching this program, certainly myself and Michael would like as well.
Speaker 1: I think Chris a fully and the LMP deserve will
Speaker 1: and truly a shot at it. But is there anything
Speaker 1: that you want to urge your colleagues when it's down
Speaker 1: to the crossing of the t's and the dotting of
Speaker 1: the eyes here, because it seems to me like twelve
Speaker 1: is a lot of seats to win. Even on the
Speaker 1: exit pole they were showing of the team that they
Speaker 1: looked at, Okay, maybe eight you could start to say,
Speaker 1: hitting your way, well, eight eight, twelve.
Speaker 13: I've been out of the prepole boots every day this
Speaker 13: week and I can tell you there's definitely a mood
Speaker 13: for change. But that's only the very early voters. These
Speaker 13: are the most organized people, and that's the people who've
Speaker 13: been pulled through this exit pole. What I'm worried about
Speaker 13: is what's going to bring you know, what's going to
Speaker 13: come forward next week, what's going to happen on the
Speaker 13: actual day. But what I've been really pleased about is,
Speaker 13: you know, David Chris of Foley, Jared Blair, they were
Speaker 13: out on the polls with me this week and I
Speaker 13: was really impressed by.
Speaker 1: Their work, ethic and their approach to it.
Speaker 13: I don't think they're going to leave any stone unturned,
Speaker 13: and I don't think they're going to take anything for granted.
Speaker 13: But my message to Queenslanders would be, do not waste
Speaker 13: your vote. Make sure you put one in that LMP
Speaker 13: box and make sure if you really want to get
Speaker 13: that domestos out as you're mentioning, make sure you actually
Speaker 13: get it done.
Speaker 2: Don't waste that vote.
Speaker 1: Don't worry they keep the tape. When I say that
Speaker 1: it was not grade four years ago, I think it'll
Speaker 1: be fine in a couple of weeks time. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Harris on Fox today. Did she do
Speaker 1: herself any damage? Michael, because look, either she was terrible.
Speaker 1: She didn't answer questions, she was combative, She deliberately turned
Speaker 1: up late, trying to shrink the amount of time that
Speaker 1: was there. She was obviously talking to an audience that
Speaker 1: one would assume wasn't going to vote for her anyway.
Speaker 1: But to me, she pitled away an opportunity to just
Speaker 1: get one vote, one vote that she didn't have before
Speaker 1: the start.
Speaker 2: Of that interview.
Speaker 1: Instead, she was off there pretending Donald Trump's the big problem,
Speaker 1: and the reality is she's Her closing message is what
Speaker 1: Biden was trying to push up Hill for two years.
Speaker 12: Mate, I'm getting too old to waste twenty two minutes
Speaker 12: of my life on watching Kamala Harris being interviewed by
Speaker 12: Brett Baer. I mean, it's what I say about listening
Speaker 12: to Kevin Rudd. You know, it's like listening to Rudd.
Speaker 12: It's time, ladies and gentlemen, you'll never get back right.
Speaker 12: The clock ticks, life goes forward. You know, you age
Speaker 12: day by day, minute by minute, mate, and you can't
Speaker 12: say to far the time I want that twenty two
Speaker 12: minutes back. I'll be honest, mate. I thought she was
Speaker 12: utterly atrocious. It was embarrassing. It was a train wreck.
Speaker 12: I can't believe those commentators that fellow out on before
Speaker 12: and say, oh, well she wasn't great, but that was
Speaker 12: a train wreck. I mean, how many illegal immigrants have
Speaker 12: come across the border. It went downhill from there. She
Speaker 12: is just an actor, right, she is an actor. I've
Speaker 12: seen this many times in politics. Her advisors will beIN
Speaker 12: there right at the meeting three months ago. She'll say, listen,
Speaker 12: I don't know much. I'm not a real politician. I
Speaker 12: was a lawyer, I was a prosecutor. I fell into
Speaker 12: this job as VP because all the reasons she was appointed.
Speaker 12: We know, I'm not really across the policy. I know
Speaker 12: nothing about foreign policy. I know nothing about economics. You know,
Speaker 12: I'm very left wing on all these issues. What am
Speaker 12: I going to do? They'll have said, the only way
Speaker 12: to get you through is here are ten stock phrases.
Speaker 12: You use, correct and we'll change.
Speaker 2: As we go through.
Speaker 12: Just trot out these phrases if you don't know the answer,
Speaker 12: trot out the phrase about your mother, trot out the
Speaker 12: phrase about turning the page. And then went in doubt
Speaker 12: just to tack, just go just blather on about Trump.
Speaker 12: And that's what she's been doing for three months. She
Speaker 12: should never have done the interview. The problem she's got
Speaker 12: is the American public appear right at the last minute
Speaker 12: to be working her out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fingers cross, fingers crossed anyway, Henry, who's you win
Speaker 1: or a loser this week? Mate?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 13: I think the big loser this week was Stephen Miles
Speaker 13: with jumping the shark on this school lunch's policy, which
Speaker 13: has gone down like.
Speaker 1: A lead balloon up here.
Speaker 2: And I don't think he is.
Speaker 13: I think he threw out everything that was left with
Speaker 13: his credibility and got nothing for it.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Thank you, guys. Michael. You can text
Speaker 1: me yours and I'll read it out a little bit later.
Speaker 1: Thank you. We're standing.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 1: Betty crog A, Petty Kroger. Goodness met Betty Clemento, boss
Speaker 1: of Erebus, the captain of the ship of my favorite
Speaker 1: team in my favorite sport. She's next. You know, supercass
Speaker 1: is my favorite sport, my favorite team and it is
Speaker 1: Erebus and as you know by now, they won Bathist.
Speaker 1: Betty Clemenco is the lady who is the one who
Speaker 1: sets the tone for this team. Proudly Australian loves the
Speaker 1: fans and puts Bathist above everything else. You saw how
Speaker 1: happy she was on Sunday. Let's see how she's going
Speaker 1: this Thursday night. Betty Clemenko, Congratulations, Darlin, thank you so much.
Speaker 14: I'm you know, I don't think it's sunk in yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Now I've got to say, apart
Speaker 1: from anything else, congratulations. By the way, the synergy between
Speaker 1: your team and Chico, the Chicko role is back, like
Speaker 1: like you know, one incredible perform. Can you believe how
Speaker 1: much chicko role talk there is this week?
Speaker 14: Well, they totally sold out within like a fifty kilometer
Speaker 14: radius of Bathist, of all the Chico roles, Chico themselves
Speaker 14: sold out in the first couple of hours on the Sunday,
Speaker 14: and so many people said, oh, I haven't had one
Speaker 14: for so long, I think I'll have one.
Speaker 5: And they really nice.
Speaker 1: They are bloody fantastic. I'm just looking behind you right now, obviously,
Speaker 1: second time you've won Baptist and the distance between those
Speaker 1: two a lot's happened. That's great and all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. What's it like to have two of them
Speaker 1: behind you? Now? Is it starting? You're starting to notice
Speaker 1: that both of them or you know, you don't play
Speaker 1: favorites amongst your puppies. You wouldn't dare amongst your trophies, right.
Speaker 14: No, but this one, this one was special. This one
Speaker 14: was This one was done in a different way. We
Speaker 14: were very calm, We were very Everything was perfect, We
Speaker 14: did everything. We practiced so hard. The boys practiced for
Speaker 14: months before. The drivers were all very calm. Everyone was
Speaker 14: just very calm. And except for me at the very end,
Speaker 14: and I was shaking, holding on to a toolkit.
Speaker 1: Well, and how is Daniel, of course, your equal half,
Speaker 1: your beautiful husband. He's always just no drama, like he
Speaker 1: never showed.
Speaker 14: Up, no drama, was sitting there chatting away, and I'm
Speaker 14: looking at him like out of the corner of my
Speaker 14: are going come on, come and stand next to me,
Speaker 14: you know, two minutes to go, And finally, like halfway
Speaker 14: through the last lab he says, when they get to
Speaker 14: the chase, we'll go outside.
Speaker 1: You have been relentlessly kind to me over the years
Speaker 1: to give me the chance to stand beside you at
Speaker 1: races to watch how it all works. Obviously should have
Speaker 1: been there this weekend alas I made the wrong choice
Speaker 1: and went to Queensland, that's my fault. But at the
Speaker 1: start of this year, right you'd come off the title,
Speaker 1: there was all this drama and garbage and all the
Speaker 1: rest of it. I'm not going to try to go
Speaker 1: through that, but I remember us sitting there talking about, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, you know here we are in the number
Speaker 1: one garage. That was last year, but who knew what
Speaker 1: the year was going to hold. And that was at
Speaker 1: Bathist and then again to see that the next time
Speaker 1: you come back to Bathist you walk out his champion.
Speaker 1: The pressure that you must put on yourself to maintain success,
Speaker 1: but I'd imagine trying to return to success would be
Speaker 1: even harder, isn't it.
Speaker 14: Well, well, yes it is. But Arebis is very well
Speaker 14: known for fighting and we love to be the underdog.
Speaker 14: We love to be to do the hunting, not being
Speaker 14: the hunted. And when we were thrown right back on
Speaker 14: the grid, all the way back down the bottom, it
Speaker 14: was like, okay, fine, we're down here, this is Bathurst.
Speaker 7: We're going to win.
Speaker 14: It doesn't matter what garage we're in.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 14: We we just have this this this urge to win
Speaker 14: when we're when we're down. And I think they did
Speaker 14: as a favor by putting us down the back because
Speaker 14: the urge to fight and win and to be perfect
Speaker 14: was so strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bloody oath, bloody oath. Now I've got to say
Speaker 1: before I let you go, thank you for constantly backing
Speaker 1: that traditional Australia that we talk about every night, that
Speaker 1: you know I believe in, you believe in and I
Speaker 1: love that the Army logos on the car, the Australian
Speaker 1: flag is on the car. You are somebody. I've seen
Speaker 1: it with my own eyes and in fact, I think
Speaker 1: you've even tisted me once when I wasn't standing to
Speaker 1: attention appropriately during the national anthem. How important is it
Speaker 1: that you have all of that that comes with this
Speaker 1: sporting team as well? Very important?
Speaker 14: You know I've been known to you at my crew
Speaker 14: they know if they're wearing a helmet, visor up, head down.
Speaker 14: And you know, Australia means a lot to me because
Speaker 14: of what it gave to my father and it saved him.
Speaker 14: He came from a wartorn Europe and everything that they
Speaker 14: gave him.
Speaker 1: I need to carry on that. Thanks, well, We're glad
Speaker 1: that you do. Congratulations Betty. I can't wait to give
Speaker 1: you a hug if you're on the goal.
Speaker 2: It'll be there.
Speaker 1: If not, we'll find you in Adelaide. Otherwise, I'll just
Speaker 1: find a way. Go check go go, Darlan
Speaker 2: H.