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Speaker 1: Better than the legal, better than just tell me why

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Speaker 1: Queensland is going to win. And by the way, I disagree, well, Matthew.

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Speaker 2: Historically Game one is always tight, low scoring. The New

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Speaker 2: South Wales have picked like a tough, consistent team, defensive orientine,

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Speaker 2: matched that high completion right, doing all the right things,

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Speaker 2: good defensive team, I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: close contest. We'll get down like the seventieth minute, and

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Speaker 2: I just like the fact that if it gets deep

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Speaker 2: South Wales will start hesitating, second guessing, and I think someone.

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Speaker 3: Like Rhys Walsh will just go bang.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like the game is set for It's

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Speaker 2: going to be this slug fest, back and forth, back

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Speaker 3: And I think that's how close contest.

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Speaker 2: But it's going to come down a moment a bit

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Speaker 2: later on, and I just think Rice Walsh has that

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Speaker 2: I'm going for it top thing. The pressure does different

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Speaker 2: South Wales key indicators will go, oh, I don't know

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Speaker 1: That's a big thing for Madge.

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Speaker 4: Isn't like as Coops Queensland is when you get picked,

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Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, you're in the bosom of Coueensland. If

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Speaker 4: it makes sense, like there's a certain security that I

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Speaker 1: And that's that's a big weight.

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Speaker 2: Well, whether it's your bosom or anyone's, it doesn't really

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Speaker 2: matter because origin will make you second guess. It has

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Speaker 2: this ability when it comes down to those fine moments

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Speaker 2: Because historically shows that all come down to a play.

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Speaker 2: And I just feel like McGuire's gone with a team

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Speaker 2: gloves up for long periods of time. But just when

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Speaker 2: it comes to that, where's the experience come from? You've

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Speaker 2: got Robson lewi Heines went out to Desco, which is.

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Speaker 2: But then the Queensland spine is Jerry Evans, You've got

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Speaker 3: Who can do it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Walsh has the ability to do it, did and

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Speaker 2: well he's solid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The last two series as a New South waleshman, I've

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Speaker 4: I had that sort of gat feel, a sense of

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Speaker 4: I don't know, it was just gat feel.

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Speaker 1: It was just Gatfield.

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Speaker 4: I just felt like it was going to be both

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Speaker 4: of undersided on certain players and there were players that

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Speaker 4: what's going on? Then they were dropped and there was

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Speaker 4: just a lot of instability. The old Agel's saying is

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Speaker 4: New South Wales don't get state of original like queens

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Speaker 4: Land and get it now.

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Speaker 1: There's an element of truth in that.

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Speaker 4: I think the Madge has picked I want to say

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that, but an origin tough side.

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Speaker 2: Well that's their style to win, right, But what happens

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Speaker 4: Well, I think, yeah, Look at the bottom line is coops.

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Speaker 4: Madge has picked a side in my opinion that with

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Speaker 1: That's the thing I think about it.

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Speaker 4: And oftentimes coops like New South Wales and has been

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Speaker 4: Know, you've got to pick guys who really trust and

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Speaker 4: I think Madges surprise selections this time around, and Freddie

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Speaker 4: Rhys Robinson the nine I'm back and that they'll be

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Speaker 2: You know what you're going to get right, whereas the

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Speaker 4: And the thing about it is when you talk about

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Speaker 1: I played with passion.

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Speaker 4: But if you looked at historically how New South Wales

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Speaker 4: picked their teams, I just wonder how many Origin games

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Speaker 4: Billy Moore and Gary Larsen would have played, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like and they you guys picked them because of that passion,

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Speaker 2: Right because through that time when Thurston Smith Slater Lock,

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Speaker 2: he were dominating the main stays in that side with

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Speaker 2: So you're right, that needs to be that toughness needs

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Speaker 2: to be complimented with some points scoring a Billy, some

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Speaker 1: Plays huge game in the career of Niko Hines.

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Speaker 4: Who's the player in our team that not Okay, Fear,

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Speaker 4: but the one you're thinking about a lot paint Huss.

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Speaker 2: Ever since this whole Origin series has come to light,

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Speaker 2: because if you stop paying Hass, I think Ken mc ginnison,

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Speaker 2: Jake Travoyvich, the other starting middles, Okay, you let them go.

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Speaker 2: who's hard to handle. He'd be pocket rocket in and out.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like paint Huss is going to be

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Speaker 3: Play the balls for them to feel confident.

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Speaker 1: I'm built a lot of mental toughness.

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Speaker 2: We've spoken about here. He's a dude.

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Speaker 1: He certainly is.

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Speaker 2: A stud, and I feel like he has dominated for

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Speaker 3: He hasn't really done it origin this might be his chance.

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Speaker 4: If we start losing the Artish battle when Harry comes on,

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Speaker 4: South Wales, the lesser evil is giving away some sixy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's starting now to control Origin. Understand his influence.

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Speaker 2: He was good last time for the Melbourne Storm and

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Speaker 2: Can he match up if paint Use is the guy?

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Speaker 2: I think Carrigan versus paint us so Origin was built

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Speaker 3: And he did what he did.

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Speaker 2: In that scrum to the Cronan, I think it was.

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Speaker 2: And if there's one guy in the Queensland Pack who

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Speaker 3: I truly think it is.

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Speaker 2: I think he makes this personal and this is coming

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Speaker 4: Carrion's got it because oftentimes that was Tina.

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Speaker 1: Someone has to do it, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Someone has to do it.

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Speaker 2: And when pain House has been out for the Broncos

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Speaker 1: It's New South Wales defense versus Reecee Walsh because as

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Speaker 1: you said, in this game, we've got these tough, hard

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Speaker 1: working guys, great yardage man Reese is that X factor.

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Speaker 3: What would you be doing to null Fly I'd.

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Speaker 4: Be defending him out side in I'd be because Coop

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Speaker 4: in this game, this is going to be is going

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Speaker 4: You know what it's like, you know, And that Sydney

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Speaker 4: origins is ad vantished defense and I would defend him

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Speaker 1: I would rush him, not give him time It's a

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Speaker 4: It's a huge test for the New South Wales defense,

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Speaker 4: but it's a big night for Reese as well. This

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Speaker 2: I think the best person in the corner of Reese

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Speaker 2: out that Billy hasn't experienced.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you that.

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Speaker 3: He's walked basically the path that Reese is.

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Speaker 1: Trying and could not have a better mentor he will.

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Speaker 2: Understand outside in defense, he will understand the kicking games

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Speaker 2: Luis will kick the ball as high as possible and

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Speaker 2: the centers for New South Wales and the back rolls

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Speaker 2: Rees early on.

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Speaker 3: But he has to pick his times. He needs to be.

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Speaker 2: Tough, he needs to be resilient, and yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: Billy will understand. That's why I think this game will

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Speaker 2: Billy will say, hey, listen, these guys are going to

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Speaker 2: come for you don't.

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Speaker 3: Get frustrated early on, build your game.

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Speaker 2: There will be an opportunity when fatigue comes into this

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Speaker 2: contest and they will be thinking, please, Reaes, don't run,

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Speaker 2: and then this is the time that you should run.

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Speaker 2: So he'll be doing all those things. He won't be

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Speaker 2: trying to throw that risky pass.

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Speaker 1: Come around on those sweep shapes, and I think you'll

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Speaker 2: I think he's happy to get rattled a couple of

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Speaker 2: I'm coming out, and then he'll get that time to play.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to someone today about this coops and

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Speaker 4: But how wingers defend, like I think players like when

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Speaker 4: Slater played, and you see it with Reese, is that

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Speaker 4: they pray on wingers who have hard and fast rules,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It just does my head

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Speaker 4: in when I see outside backs like wingers just blindly

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Speaker 4: going to defend. In my opinion, like if I was

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Speaker 4: coaching a winger, you teach him vision and you allow

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Speaker 4: him to be that anomaly that stands there and all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, like you know, can pick someone off.

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Speaker 4: I want you to see Stephen Crichton do it as

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Speaker 4: an outside back, but not just blindly run outside in

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Speaker 4: because players like Slater and Reese will do tape on

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Speaker 4: those players and so listen, he's going to come in.

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Speaker 4: You see guys go around on those on those sweep

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Speaker 4: shapes and sous cats, they just.

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Speaker 1: Go double cut out.

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Speaker 4: Now that's a preemptive pass and they do that because

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Speaker 4: what they see on tape against Rees I think is

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Speaker 4: really important for that winger. Just sometimes to mix it

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Speaker 3: So there's always a plan. This is the plan that

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Speaker 2: But when you get to this level, there needs to

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Speaker 2: be some IQ in a brain to realize that, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe there's a long pass or his hands on the

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Speaker 2: ball that's going to go over the top, so I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to come in. And if you look at

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Speaker 2: the outside backs for New South Wales, who are the

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Speaker 2: guys that can have that smarts and moving in out

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Speaker 2: of different sequences, Well, it's to and Crichton. Lomax is

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Speaker 2: the guy that I think you know, Billy will target

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Speaker 2: and Ris Welsh just might have the chance to do

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Speaker 4: Right A big talking point of the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 4: Edward's out to this going yep, Okay, if you were Teddy,

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Speaker 4: you're not picked, you've lost the captaincy in the jersey,

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Speaker 4: but suddenly you get the call.

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Speaker 1: How did you feel.

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Speaker 3: I would love to be into the disco's shoes right now.

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Speaker 2: I would love to be because there would have been

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Speaker 2: say he gets picked. He's got all the noise around

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Speaker 2: Edward SHINEV. So it's already been made. The statement's been made.

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Speaker 2: You're in the side. You're not here all the son.

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Speaker 2: There's a fear of failure and performing. The anxiety goes

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Speaker 2: out the door.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 2: There is an opportunity for Tedesco to do it like

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Speaker 2: a mic drop moment here and go out and just

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Speaker 2: play absolutely lights out. I would love to be in

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Speaker 2: this situation because you've come in. There's not too much

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Speaker 2: expectation because this is here and there, but you're one

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Speaker 2: of the best players in the game. When you get

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Speaker 2: going and this is bright Light's time.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, I'm really confident.

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Speaker 3: Who is it?

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Speaker 2: Would that be your mindset? Would you be terrified for

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Speaker 2: thinking I'd flip?

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Speaker 1: This is perfect? It's perfect. Look.

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Speaker 4: I was a shitty Origin player. The best the best

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Speaker 4: game I played was the last game I played.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, coop. I got called up.

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Speaker 4: The morning of the match, and i'd actually been out

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Speaker 4: the night before and had a few beers. Anyway, I

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Speaker 4: got home and I'll get a call from Lourie and

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Speaker 4: Joey and they said, Mate, Tubes was really cool and

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Speaker 4: we've sort of thrown your name up to Tom Rey

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Speaker 4: Donok as a coach to come in if he's no good,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going it's Tubes. Anyway, I've got to call

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Speaker 4: the morning off. And they said, Mate, he's gone. He's

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Speaker 4: completely rat shit and you've got to come into the side.

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Speaker 4: So there's another story that goes with it that I've

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Speaker 4: told them for I won't go right into that, but.

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Speaker 2: There is something around the late call up us and

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Speaker 2: Tom did and did it with Munster.

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Speaker 4: A few because you're not burning gas in camp for

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Speaker 4: the whole week going through these scenarios.

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Speaker 2: More like this simplified mentality to performance, Like you don't

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Speaker 2: spend the ten day build up, analyzing this, analyzing that,

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Speaker 2: and just going through the whole process. It's listerally like

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Speaker 2: there's your boots, there's your mouth guard.

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Speaker 3: Go do it, you go?

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Speaker 1: Said.

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Speaker 4: I turned up and there was and I've said to

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Speaker 4: you before, there was no ticket at Newcastle Airport to

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Speaker 4: missus John's there was nothing, and you know, like it's

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Speaker 4: it's pushing towards midday and I'm trying to get down

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Speaker 4: so here I had to sit in between the two pilots.

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Speaker 1: On the floor. Not an old hell preparation for state

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Speaker 1: of origin.

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Speaker 4: But as I said before, sometimes you just come in

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Speaker 4: late and it's to coop who wins obviously Queensland.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say eighteen fourteen.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be tight in terms of

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Speaker 2: like man of the match, I'm going Carrygan. I'm going

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Speaker 2: all in that he just dominates the middle and no

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Speaker 2: one gets past him. And I think in terms of

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Speaker 2: how to on folds, I think of explained, I think

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Speaker 2: this is tight.

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Speaker 3: This is slug fest. And I think.

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Speaker 2: Someone I rece Walsh, someone maybe your man Harry Grant,

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Speaker 2: just someone with a little bit of experience in that

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Speaker 2: key position comes out with an outstanding player that makes

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Speaker 1: My man of the match is Rees Robinson, Resa Robinson.

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Speaker 1: I just I like him and I think he's a

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Speaker 1: tough player.

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Speaker 3: It's the same mindset, right, we're going carrying robs the wheels.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be tight and it's just said if

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Speaker 4: we can get ascendency in the rucket of open up

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Speaker 4: for him, how does he hit.

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Speaker 3: The school board? Though he gets mad of the match,

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Speaker 3: he's going to tackle himself to a.

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Speaker 4: Stands tackle stands still really good support player, like he's

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Speaker 4: he's not a classic dumby half, that he's going to

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Speaker 4: not jump out and get them past the markers, and

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Speaker 4: that he gives it and goes. He's a terrific support player.

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Speaker 4: And I think I was just sitting there thinking to myself.

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Speaker 4: He picks up a try with support, ends up making

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Speaker 4: about fifty tackles.

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Speaker 3: Do you think McInnis spends time with dummy off or

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Speaker 3: do you think.

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Speaker 4: That's just ten to fifteen minutes. They might give robs

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Speaker 4: On a bit of a rest, but I done.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't it hasn't.

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Speaker 4: Played a lot there. I think a short stint to

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Speaker 4: just give Robson a bit of.

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Speaker 2: A break it has to be timely because if Slater's

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Speaker 2: doing Ben Hunt and Harry Graham just energy plus in

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Speaker 2: that position, Ken McGinnis has to be in there for

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Speaker 1: I've gone New South Walest fourteen ten. I think it'll be.

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Speaker 1: It's really we had lots on the show one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty to one of no tri Schood and I went, I.

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Speaker 4: Said, that's in Sydney. I would that's it. That's a

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Speaker 4: that's a decent bet.

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Speaker 2: I would, because normally, besides the first game being sort

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Speaker 2: so you're just hoping that you play well. You're hoping

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Speaker 2: that you do a good job. As opposed to Game three.

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Speaker 2: They are always full frattle and they high octane footy.

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Speaker 1: So I get that headline in the paper the next day.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like you Walsh and Billy okay. I

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Speaker 2: just think there's going to be the new Billy Slater.

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Speaker 4: I've done a couple here Sydney's Daily Telegraph. You bluety jeez,

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Speaker 4: you've given this some force. Blues means hinds and in

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Speaker 4: Brisbane's way too much time I have the I agonized

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Speaker 4: over this for days. Brisbane's career male rare blue steak

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Speaker 4: most Okay, let's talk about week to week football.

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Speaker 1: The most impressive team of the round just pass.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Give the Cowboys in that second half, like it was

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Speaker 2: very very good, well down fourteen to four halftime, they

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Speaker 2: come out and turn the tables like with their kicking

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Speaker 2: game and field position and really tap the roosters out.

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Speaker 2: They made some poor errors of roosters, but they scored

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Speaker 2: a try with one of their players, and they've been

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: The drink water was tremendous again, and.

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Speaker 2: I just like the fact that the Cowboys didn't try

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Speaker 2: and win it with one big play. They got back

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Speaker 2: into the grind, forced the roosters out and won out

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Speaker 2: clock back.

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Speaker 3: They did the same thing this time last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, they got the season back with their origent

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Speaker 2: players and they came back here.

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Speaker 4: Isn't not funny Like the Warriors and the Cowboys have

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Speaker 4: found their best football when their starts have been out.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like they've pulled things back a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I reckon Counsel did it for a period of time

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Speaker 3: until the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Dogs on the weekend on to other dogs in a second.

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Speaker 4: But I reckon it's all much like Todd Payton went listen.

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Speaker 4: But if we're going to win this, we're not going

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Speaker 4: to win on tacking Bryants. We just got to dig in.

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Speaker 4: We've got to defend well, and they found their best football.

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Speaker 2: And that's why there's certain things that you must have

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Speaker 2: if you're going to lift the trophy in the year,

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Speaker 2: you must do a couple of things. You must be

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Speaker 2: the best defensive team, you must be in the top bracket,

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Speaker 2: and there's.

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Speaker 3: A few things that you have to do.

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Speaker 2: And whether you've got origent players or not, they're the

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Speaker 2: things that underpan why the origin player are great, because

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Speaker 2: everyone else does the basics.

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Speaker 1: I went the Dogs, I thought they were just how tremendous.

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Speaker 4: No Burton, no kick out, no Crichton lost out our

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Speaker 4: car with a hamstring injury. It's just the strength of

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Speaker 4: this team is the team itself, not the individual. And

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Speaker 4: the three guys that really impressed me is Hayward, Salmon

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Speaker 4: and Kurt Man.

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Speaker 1: Because you've got three blokes there, you can just chip

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Speaker 4: They've got a smaller pack coups and that little bit

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Speaker 4: that they need to play football in yardage to win

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Speaker 4: that yardish battle. And the thing I like it about

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Speaker 4: those blokes in the middle of Bailey Hayward and that

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Speaker 4: they're able to play football is it allows the Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: Open up the field.

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Speaker 4: They can play a little bit sidelined to sideline football

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Speaker 4: because those blokes in the middle, there's that lightweight middle man.

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Speaker 1: Can play football and they can use the football.

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Speaker 2: And we're just starting to see the fruits of Sirealdo.

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Speaker 2: You're going to remember Sirealdo set up the best defensive

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Speaker 2: He was the architect of that. And now what Rome

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Speaker 2: wasn't built in a day mindset that the Dogs now

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Speaker 2: have gone from the worst defensive team to one of

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Speaker 2: the best. And their goal line defense on the weekend

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Speaker 2: was terrific. They missed a couple of tackles, but they're

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Speaker 2: scrambled the desire. They're starting to become a team that's

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Speaker 2: hard to score against. And when you lose your best players,

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Speaker 2: your defense needs to stand up.

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Speaker 3: And they won that game off.

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Speaker 1: The back of that most disappointing side the.

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Speaker 2: Team that played the Bulldog that was really poorly. Undoubtedly

443
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Speaker 2: their attack was ineffective at best. They had was it

444
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Speaker 2: the penalty six minutes into the game and the rest

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 3: That was it. They had enough attacking ball to beat

447
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Speaker 3: the Bulldog.

448
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Speaker 1: Toby Sexson spent time with the bench, did Connor Tracy

449
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Speaker 1: two vital players. They are really disappointing.

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Speaker 4: It was funny, Joey said, been saying for a little

451
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Speaker 4: bit now that he believes it's an opportunity to put

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Speaker 4: Will Price it.

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Speaker 1: I agree will.

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Speaker 3: Kind of players.

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Speaker 1: Will Price is a terrific runner.

456
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Speaker 4: His dad Leon a great bon and he's a real

457
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Speaker 4: live while looks his rale. He still got a lot

458
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Speaker 4: to learn like all young players, but her, I think

459
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Speaker 4: he'd bring a certain energy. I'd probably give him a

460
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Speaker 4: taste at fourteen and just see what he can do.

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Speaker 4: I think he can just particularly when with his nokale

462
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Speaker 4: at the moment, just give him a little bit of spark.

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Speaker 4: It was funny because Joey said it and Adam said

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Speaker 4: in the press conference where I thought it was a bit.

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Speaker 4: He said, I don't know how many games in New

466
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Speaker 4: South Welles Cups Joey's watched in the greendstand is named

467
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Speaker 4: after him.

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Speaker 3: Good fine, it's a good comeback.

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Speaker 2: I agree with their attack needing a bit of the energy,

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Speaker 2: if that makes a sense, because on the weekend you

471
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Speaker 2: saw the ball in the middle of the field, it

472
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Speaker 2: goes to Hastings or it goes to Coga like minded

473
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Speaker 2: type players, and they were just distributing sideways, became past centric.

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Speaker 3: There was zero thrust forward.

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Speaker 2: I think Cogga ran the ball just FLF time and

476
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Speaker 2: almost set up and try. It was the only forward

477
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Speaker 2: assault that they really had for the whole time.

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Speaker 4: And Brayley Jade, he's not a dummy half skit. He

479
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Speaker 4: works his backside.

480
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Speaker 2: I need more from Brayley and Crosslin. They knew something there.

481
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's where price comes into it. Bring because if

482
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Speaker 2: you're not a thread around the middle and you just

483
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Speaker 2: pass centric, there's so much pressure that pushes that half

484
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Speaker 2: back sideways. So a little bit on Brailey to have

485
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Speaker 2: a have a go every now and again.

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Speaker 1: Chris Quick one cooped three two one on the weekend.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah over of course to the round. I go Tarpani.

488
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Speaker 2: I thought he was absolutely brilliant in the Raiders. Arguably

489
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Speaker 2: one of the best games we've seen a long time.

490
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Speaker 2: I thought read money for the Dogs three tri cists,

491
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Speaker 2: and that second half he was he was crucial, and

492
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Speaker 2: I thought in terms of the Dragons beating Penrith Panthers

493
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Speaker 2: in that second half, I thought for Taylor Marina back

494
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Speaker 2: Row was terrific.

495
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Speaker 3: He was a powerful background, did a really good job.

496
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Speaker 4: A bit terrific football, and I really like him to

497
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Speaker 4: come on the show. He's just going to be careful

498
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Speaker 4: at the moment. He's got the reputation in a pest,

499
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Speaker 4: which is fine. There's nothing wrong with a little bit

500
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Speaker 4: of chirp. But you don't want to be able to

501
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 4: become a caricature of yourself.

502
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Speaker 2: You need your football to be the first thing people

503
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Speaker 2: think of, not your personality, will behavior, and he stepped

504
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: over line a couple of times. To his credit, he

505
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Speaker 2: got SOPHEII with the sinbin and with everybody end of it.

506
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Speaker 3: But he's a tremendous player.

507
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Speaker 2: Make your football the reason like your name is up

508
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Speaker 2: in lights.

509
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Speaker 4: I've gone a point to Jacob Karaz fantastic.

510
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Speaker 3: You know we went fullback two. We're kind of tracy.

511
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Speaker 1: He was.

512
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Speaker 4: He took it, took the one where the about three

513
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Speaker 4: nice players and he's gone right in the middle of it.

514
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Speaker 1: It was terrific football. Two.

515
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Speaker 4: Jordan Rapner, he's one of my favorite players. He's just

516
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: so on awful.

517
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Speaker 2: What about the moments from him in that game? There

518
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: was at least four of them that were matched to fighting.

519
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was and three points. Mitchell wases to come back.

520
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Speaker 4: We're talking on Sunday night, we had we had Junior

521
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Speaker 4: Bilo on having a chat about that and I said,

522
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Speaker 4: you know, ches makes the difference getting your half back

523
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Speaker 4: back in the side and he's head.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is.

525
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 4: You said, when you're sitting in the dressing room and

526
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: you're pulling your socks on, you look over and your

527
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 4: half backs there just gives everyone confidence. He was really good,

528
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Speaker 4: I tell it. I loved on the weekend the Raiders.

529
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Speaker 4: But halfway through the first half put on a nice

530
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 4: little scrum play. Well, if you listen now, you're not

531
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Speaker 4: going to be able to see this course you listen

532
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 4: on audio, But this little play here, it's just so coops.

533
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: There's not enough of this at the moment.

534
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 1: Now.

535
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Speaker 4: I understand, when you're coming out of trouble, you give

536
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Speaker 4: the ball or back row and let them just take

537
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Speaker 4: the yards. But holy doally when you're on the attack.

538
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Speaker 4: This business has given it to a Ford who just

539
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 4: moses on Foard. I mean, what a missed opportunity.

540
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Speaker 2: I think it's the mindset shift, a bit like the

541
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Speaker 2: short dropout slide. I've seen some teams do these plays

542
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: in their own half all of a suddenly, because defenses

543
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: are more static that in the then there's opportunities. So

544
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: all it's going to take is a few coaches to

545
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: throw a cause in the wind and come up.

546
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Speaker 4: With the Let's look at some of the ones from

547
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Speaker 4: the past, and it was a big thing that this

548
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Speaker 4: one is.

549
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Speaker 1: This is a beauty, this semi final.

550
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Speaker 4: The cronulla is the late great Paul Green gives it

551
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Speaker 4: the peach and the way he goes it was just

552
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: such a such a big weapon you'll see is try

553
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Speaker 4: here the next one he is.

554
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Speaker 1: This gives me ptst watching the Green machine for you.

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Speaker 4: It's this just about the same play Lows and Bush

556
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Speaker 4: and a couple of good movers here, Mullows and Peach.

557
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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what generation you are. Creating space for your gun.

558
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Speaker 2: Talent is the key.

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Speaker 4: This is nice. Jamie Soward inside and bangs. That's a

560
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Speaker 4: nice play.

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Speaker 2: I think the one thing that because now teams are

562
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Speaker 2: basically having attacking scrums near the center, you're isolating the

563
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Speaker 2: three defenders trying to get four on threes the wide

564
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Speaker 2: shifting ones. The difference between that play back in the

565
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Speaker 2: day between today is defensive lines now would race right

566
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Speaker 2: up and almost shut down that second pass. So it

567
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Speaker 2: makes it really hard to get on the outside of

568
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Speaker 2: defense from that wide position to yeah, edge defense is

569
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: much gicker and rush up again when we talk about

570
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Speaker 2: right out side is going to do it.

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Speaker 1: You could almost beat them in two yep, So that

572
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Speaker 1: makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Shot shop, you could go up and just go wosh

574
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Speaker 4: and then go bang and actually put your big play

575
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Speaker 4: on the second player.

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Speaker 2: I think what they do is put like your middle forward.

577
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Speaker 2: It looks like, what are these teams just doing a

578
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: middle forward hit up for trying to get them on

579
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Speaker 2: the second on the count one. So absolutely teams should

580
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Speaker 2: be thrown more at them.

581
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Speaker 1: Coops.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to fire three rapid fire questions out

583
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Speaker 4: you do the dogs mate the eight?

584
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Speaker 1: No, I think they will. I think they'll creep in.

585
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Speaker 3: I mean I'm worried about their forward pack.

586
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, you're worried.

587
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Speaker 2: About there's probably six seven teams that are really powerful

588
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Speaker 2: and strong above them. Can they keep beating the teams

589
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: they needed to fill into seven and eighth? Maybe they can,

590
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: but I think their fallback needs to stand up.

591
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Speaker 1: Final question, to the Dolphins make the eight?

592
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Speaker 2: Yes, no, Fleggler hoping. Jesse Bromwich is okay, they need them,

593
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: but I think they are well balanced. I love what

594
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: Carto would do on the weekend Hammer comes back in

595
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: Herbie Farmworth.

596
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Speaker 3: I think yes, they.

597
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Speaker 2: Do all the basics well enough that they will beat

598
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Speaker 2: more teams than they lose.

599
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: It's funny that I'm looking yes as well.

600
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 4: You can't gem moulling, but just going to show you

601
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: that final four or five rounds in the season, cheese

602
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 4: is going to be a gem.

603
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Speaker 2: Well, the Dolphins are in fourth spot on sixteen points.

604
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Speaker 2: There's five teams on fourteen points. It's the Roosters, Dogs, Cows,

605
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Speaker 2: and Knights and Dragons, so there's only a few spots

606
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: up for grabs. In terms of that bottom part of

607
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: the eight. I'm talking six, seven, eight, So you imagine

608
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: the Roosters with their talent, would have to get in there.

609
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: The cows are on the up, the Dog's probably one

610
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: of the Knights that well they're so there's a fight

611
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: for a couple of spots like it always is.

612
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Speaker 4: Well, Cooper, look, regardless of what happens on Wednesday night,

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Speaker 4: I will still respect you