1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Need to be covered a really in cut stuff. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, we'll after I thought I thought. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: We're going to pull that out mat Yeah, you know, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: just unbelievable. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Congratulations really thanks me, Like it's probably doing yourself a 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: disservice to say I've been pleasantly surprised. But has there 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: been a little bit? I mean, look, going there to 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: win the all four trophies is unbelievable. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think you're always going with hope and 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: the first year we sort of want to be the 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: top four club, and then we achieved that, So I 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: think we probably achieved in that first year, and then 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: because we got there, you want to set the bar higher. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: So we set the bar high the second year and 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: made a Grand Final, and then off the back of that, 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: it's a bit more expectation then because you're expected to win, 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: you expected to be in the big games, and we 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: expect a lot of ourselves. So we went out and 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: got jar where Hargreaves and and Minky McLaurin too. Genuinely, yeah, 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: standing he saved his best the last and I think 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: people sort of criticize the wrong word but probably saying 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: that he wasn't as good on the field the start 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: of the year, but what they don't see is what 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: he did away from the field, and he makes others better. 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: It is a great leader in amongst the club. 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Yeahs outstanding, Like you can't put a value on some 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: of the stuff that he gave us. And you know, 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: we sort of did a mini hand over to the 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: boys last week because it's like you don't have those 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: blokes anymore. They've you know, they've helped, I suppose educate 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: and teach you what when it looks like and leadership 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: looks like and they've sort of taken over. 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: How much easier is it? 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: I feel like years gone past from NRL players go 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: to the Super League, they probably go to some of 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: the bigger clubs like Leeds Warrington that since you guys 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: have won, we are. 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: How much easier. Since you want to attract, like you know, 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: people from the n RAL wanted to come over. 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: To whole, it's difficult even over there because holes sort 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: of isolated. So you know, you've got some hellns we're 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: going to lead there all together, and then Leeds and 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: Huddersfield and areas like that. So a lot of the time, 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: if you know, players over there go to another team. 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: They're going locally, so they don't they don't want to 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: move too much too often, so it's difficult like over there, 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: but then to get players from overseas. Look, I think 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: they're going to the bigger club straight away. So it 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: certainly helpedlesus, Like there's no doubt when in that or 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: making the final and the Challenge Cut the first year 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: and then being in the in the Grand Final the 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: second year certainly helped us. 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: Attracks like Jared, is there a bit of like, is 54 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: there ever a bit of hostility between the English players 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: and Elsie players coming over? 56 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: I imagine at different times they would. 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, any player that comes over, you've got to earn 58 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: their respect, even because like Jared, like the boys had 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: these skits that they do and the staff and they'll 60 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: pay me out the most. I was like, but he 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: may he loved it, and yeah, so they've got to 62 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: earn your you know, it doesn't matter what you're doing. 63 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: I was, You've got to earn their respect, that's for sure. 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: I think the first Challenge Cup I ever saw when 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: he was seventy nine or eighty with whole k ol 66 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: Kingston rovers played in Johnny Dory. 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 3: He was there. 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Roger Mill was the captain to give people an insight, like, 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: you know, we look at great rivalries and regular wet. 70 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: First we talked about Roosters and the Bunis. But you 71 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: know there's lots of great right, but whole Kingston rovers 72 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: Hull f C is like historically one of the most brutal. 73 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on steroids, mate, Like I was part of 74 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: seat House and Roosters, which is huge. But it doesn't 75 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: matter where you're sitting on the ladder, it doesn't matter. Yeah, 76 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: what you've come to year before. It's it's absolutely massive 77 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: to them, like the Device family literally really, yeah, it's cool. 78 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: What sort of family division? Well, I go to hold 79 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, but it's an unrugby part of Yeah, 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: it's crazy, mate, I heard mate. 81 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: So you when when there's bit of the broncos you 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: didn't play the hunt around you played the hollow seas ground. 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, just leave anything. Yeah we did with their dressing 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: rooms are different columnies. It was pretty cool because our owner, 85 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: he's gone through a lot in terms of what he's 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: caught from the other side. Like even I didn't know this, 87 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: but they had won I think the Challenge Cup and 88 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: they flew like a helicopper or something over because we're 89 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: playing for a game, possibly for relegation, so they did 90 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: it deliberately. So things like that, you know, over the years, 91 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter who we played. I'll get the 92 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: phone call that week. He lets me do the thing, 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: but it's about being Yeah. So look, I think for him, 94 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: there's no doubt we wanted to get another, say, thirteen 95 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: thousand bums on seats at k but there was a 96 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: little bit more. 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: We're going to ask the broncers. But we've spoke talking 98 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: to Brian Carney last night. You've shown us our footage 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 4: of Eurasia a little respect. That's the theme song for 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: you guys. 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to it's for for the game, 102 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: so pretty much before kickoff comes on and they start 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: singing it, well kickoffs on. It's unbelievable. I don't have to. 104 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: We're trying to ring his manager last night, getting the city. 105 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: We're ringing it. 106 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Brian says, I'll get him on the party. 107 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: I'll get into the pot. He broke. I think Brian 108 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: ranging about fifty times and never picked up one. 109 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: Having having said that, Brian did we did give Brian 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: to bed in. 111 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: What I do want to leave that for? 112 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it's funny when you come 113 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: to value, so it's almost like that that opponent that 114 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: you go right, okay, they're not going to get us 115 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: this time. 116 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: We're where it's going to happen. This Jesus first night, 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: it's got me again. 118 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what he been spotted. We spoke to 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: on the phone earlier. 120 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: I hadn't got out of bed yet and he was 121 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: in bed quite early when we wheeled him in the room. 122 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: That was just before midnight. 123 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: It's a good form today after this, and he brought 124 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: he were to this up. 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: We went to Old Red the Country by Blake Shelton's 126 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: country Bar. He's got a good one and he couldn't. 127 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Come back with just the girliest cowboy hats. With four 128 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: of them. 129 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: We made us all wear them and it was so 130 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: embarrassing the whole night whearing these are what about. 131 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: The Old Red? 132 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 4: They had the dragons by storm. 133 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: They converted the Yeah, the converted the pubble the bar 134 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: into like a dragon's clubhouse. 135 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: All the tiglights every screen. They had dragons highlights which 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: went on for about forty five seconds. 137 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was funny podcasts come out. 138 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: You want to be out of down by there, He cares, Yeah, 139 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 4: it's funny because like, respectfully, they haven't had a whole 140 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: heap blights the last couple of years. They were playing 141 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: some of the Dragons tighlights come up and Brett Morris 142 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 4: was in it and I said it blind. 143 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: I said, Brett Morris, like it. 144 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: Was like you could see the static on some of 145 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: the footage of the. 146 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: What about the poster they had up on the wall. 147 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: So there's gutha. 148 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: Someone Dan Atkinson, Dan Acketts, and there's someone in the 149 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: middle standing there. 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: We're all going but who is that? No one knows. 151 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: It might have been under twenties players. 152 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: It's like a young, really young Dagon's player. 153 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, Miller. 154 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: Willy for you with your coaching, right, like when when 155 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: when you went over, like being a head coach with 156 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: all the pressure, there's no doubt whethy like your knowledge 157 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: of the game tactically second and none. 158 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: But of course it's such a good bloke, really good blake. 159 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: People like we're sort of going, okay, he going to 160 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: be able to be ruthless enough. 161 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: How what's enabled you to do that? Will he? Well? 162 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: I think honesty. Like I think I'm the sort of 163 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: black always when others treat me the way I want 164 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: to treat them. So when I played, I hated coaches 165 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: that weren't honest. They weren't straight. At the point with me, 166 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: nothing bugs me more than the lies and people the 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: bookshit basically so sorry. So I think I think for me, mate, 168 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: he's just yeah, being honest with the players. And if 169 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I see something el Wayne Bennet talks about like if 170 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: you you walk past something and you don't say, that's 171 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: the standards accept top thing. So for me, I live 172 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: by that really, Like, if I see something, I'll say it. 173 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: How hard is it really like to get there? 174 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: You might have an experienced bloke or someone that's a 175 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: little prickly you know that you're going right, I've got 176 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: to get up there and I've got to go there 177 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: and have a yain doing. 178 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's difficult. I mean, dropping players or moving players on. 179 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: They're all different conversations because you don't you know, you 180 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: genuinely care about the blow. But it's all part of 181 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: the job, I think, you know, Like growing up, I 182 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: was always you know, I have to be around people 183 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: all the time and you know, if people didn't like 184 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: me as a kid, I was like, I didn't take 185 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: that too well, you know, and I thought, well, when 186 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I get in the coaching, it's going to be the 187 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: complete opposite. Unfortunately on the way, like you're coaching sixteens 188 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: and eighteens and you're coaching makes parents and but yeah, 189 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: so your mates are playing, the kids are playing, so 190 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, not picking them or whatever. You have hard conversations. 191 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: But I think it was good grounding for me to 192 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: be able to to do that, you know. And then 193 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: and then as you get through the grades, nothing changes 194 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: because you're going by the same principles, what you believe in. Well, 195 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: these boys are not some coaching Stu Bullyers. 196 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is funny that the politics of like, yeah, 197 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 4: probably underestimate the factor because of NURL parents. 198 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: Rarely ever you ever see him get involved because everyone's 199 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: an adult. 200 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 4: But just how much parents can drive behind the scenes, 201 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 4: even just driving like you might do work with a 202 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: kid on like you know, you just this is going 203 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: to be your mentality, Like you know, you just got 204 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: to keep working hard, YadA, YadA, YadA. But and then 205 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: the parents get in their head about he's wrong. You 206 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: to be doing this to this and then I mean 207 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: the next day and all the work you did with 208 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: them the day before and getting their head around you know, 209 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: why they might not be in the team completely strips 210 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: it all that. 211 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean they're looking through what they love 212 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: their kids and all that. But at the end of 213 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: the day, like, yeah, you got a job to do, 214 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: and that's that's be honest with it, you know, and 215 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: like you say, mate, you might get into a certain thing, 216 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: you might they might be getting, yeah, getting somewhere with 217 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: them and then their parents in the well in the 218 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: scenes of telling them something else and you lose all that. 219 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: But look, I think that's probably been the that was 220 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: the best grounding for me, were dealing with difficult parents 221 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: along the way, because you know, I think the players 222 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: now are probably easy to deal with. To be honest, 223 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: most of the guys they did want honesty, and as 224 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: I say, it's not easy having those conversations, but you know, 225 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: it's all part of it. We're talking. 226 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: I was talking to someone about it. They said, were 227 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: this whole KR where to Kingston Rover sit? As far 228 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: as if they're an NRL club, I likened it to 229 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: a little bit probably the Tigers, and that mean like, 230 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: but they are a club is great support. 231 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: They're always trying to punch above their weight. 232 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: Little bit like Willie when you went there, can you 233 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: identify because what you've done is unprecedented, Like we were 234 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: talking last night, Brian, they'll talk about you in one 235 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: hundred years time. 236 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: There what was can you identify? Turning point? 237 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: Willy? 238 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: I think what we did at the start was probably 239 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: the two before I come over. So they used to 240 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: like just say kick off, they'd move the ball and 241 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: played too. They paid the notes for on play two 242 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: usually they're on you know. So for me, that was 243 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: a feel good team, you know, and if they didn't work, 244 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: that didn't work, then they struggled. So I looked at 245 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: them and went, Okay, they like to attack them. That's 246 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: that's the that's their go to where For me, you know, 247 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: I learned you know, I was coaching on the Madge 248 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: in the juniors and taught me a great little about 249 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: vertical alignment and defense first sort of focus or mentality, 250 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: and initially I probably didn't understand it, but my second 251 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: year of coaching, I. 252 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Really did vertical alignment. I mean everything is just tapped into. 253 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so top top down. So I was coaching the 254 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: sixteens and basically everything was streamlined, so what the calls were, 255 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: defense systems, everything was basically he wanted it from top 256 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: top to the bottom. And you need to have that 257 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: because if his sixteen's going to eighteen's, he then needs 258 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: to understand the calls and systems and. 259 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: Eighteen and twenty sounds sounds like simple when you say it, 260 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: but the amount of clubs that aren't don't do that, 261 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: it's insane because there's obviously different coaches at sixteens, eighteens, 262 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: twenties all the way to Reserve, God and NURL. Sometimes 263 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 4: there are clubs where sixteens has different calls for this 264 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: or different mentalities and defense eighteen is clearly different, like 265 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 4: literally every grade is different. So to make it an 266 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: easy transition for kids to go between each grade, particularly 267 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: people going from Reserve go to NRL, it's got to 268 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: be aul streamlined. 269 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So one team might sixteens might be sliding, 270 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: for example, when you're passive, and then if you go 271 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: the eight ens and they're jamming or takes that sixteen 272 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: year old kid to go to that next level like 273 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: another whole year to work out how to jam or 274 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: protect inside sholder as they say. So I think that 275 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: was the first thing, so you know when we're over there. 276 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: When I went over the initially it was about being 277 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: a team that when they turned up the Craven Park 278 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: similar to you guys at Knights, mate, you knew you 279 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: go you'd go to Newcastle. It was an awful afternoon. 280 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to play your very 281 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: best to be in them. But on the flip side, 282 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: when you guys would go down the Sydney, you're still 283 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: the same sort of team. So I wanted us to 284 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: be that, you know, that team where it didn't matter 285 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: where we played, that we had a mentality work hard 286 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: for each other and defend and it put us in 287 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: a strong position. But difficult to say. I think probably 288 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the first year. You know, we 289 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of guys in that first year that 290 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: really good blokes, but we didn't have enough can't use 291 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, we just didn't have that mongrel mate, so 292 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: we had to go get some some players and Tyro 293 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: maybe he came in. Yeah, he's been awesome mate. You know, 294 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: he's a different character in terms of his personality, but 295 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: I love him. I love it what he brings to 296 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: the team and uh and what he what he brings 297 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: others around him. But we bought those two in and 298 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: as I said, a couple of years later we bought 299 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Jared and Mickey two proper mongols, which which added to 300 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: which I wanted to do. 301 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: Micky, Micky has been good for your mate. Yeah, what 302 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: do you think will he is? 303 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: He? 304 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: I reckon behind the scenes, he's probably getting tapped from 305 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: mena real clubs he was. 306 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: He just signed a new deal now, so yeah, he's 307 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: got he's got a baby, so yeah, so pretty much 308 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: when he made the decision that he wants to stay here, 309 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: he couldn't live away from his little boy. So there's 310 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot of gravies only twenty four. Yeah, you know, 311 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: he's a runner, he's you know, he probably didn't play 312 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: the levels that he wanted to in the Ashes, certainly 313 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: played role in the Grand finally got me in the 314 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: match in that Grand Final, and I thought he went 315 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: pretty well the other night. So you know, it's just 316 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: about doing it now. Every week that you would you 317 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: ever coach England, I'd have the conversations. Yeah, I love 318 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: being a head coach. I was in Australia and Kangaroos. 319 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: I was assistant there. I absolutely loved it and I 320 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: learnt so much. And obviously I'm from Australia, but I 321 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: do love head coaching. I think, you know I can help. 322 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm proud to involved in the Super League and passionate 323 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: about helping the game over there, and I feel like 324 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: I add something. 325 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: We got strong ties to England. Everyone played over there. 326 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: Like now you're obviously coaching over that. 327 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: Would you enjoy doing that sort of short stint style 328 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: coaching of representative? 329 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a walk up at the end of 330 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the year, so we haven't haven't spoken to it and yet, 331 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: but i'd certainly, as I said, have conversations to see 332 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: see where it went. 333 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: How'd you like the Aussie tour? 334 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Loved just to see the spine. The way the spine 335 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: connected was absolutely unbelievable. But for me it was Dylan Edwoods, 336 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: Mitch Moses, it was Brayley and young Ethan strange from 337 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: from Camberra. Those guys didn't play and they the way 338 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: they prepared and help those others, it was just unbelievable 339 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: to see. As a coach, you don't have to do 340 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: something too much coaching. When you're involved with the best, 341 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like boys go to your extras 342 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: or they went and did their their edge things, and 343 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: middles went and did their middles and then off the 344 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: back of that, the spine connected and they're all talking 345 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: around how they're going to attack that week. And as 346 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: I said, it was a lot of it was driven 347 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: by guys that weren't playing what clearing like tactically and 348 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: when he's training and stuff like, how'd you find him? Mate? Unbelievables, 349 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: no flute that he's you know who he is. He's 350 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: literally hear about it all the time on the first 351 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: in the field, the last off, but he's the first 352 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: and the last and everything. So we're on the bus 353 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: and it might have been just a recovery, he's last 354 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: in the recovery or you know where it's prober had beforehand, 355 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: he's last to leave that room. He's just, Yeah, he's unbelievable. 356 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: And just I really really liked the Penri boys. They've 357 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: won full premierships. The most humble blokes that are going 358 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: to meet and you wouldn't know that they've won all 359 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: those premierships are just you. 360 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: Know, terrific. 361 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great for the great leader. I really liked 362 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: how we after training, so you get around at us 363 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: sort of individuals, around what they thought of the session, 364 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: then how we can be better, and that's true leadership. 365 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: He'd finished, he'd finished with what he thought. But yeah, 366 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: all terrific blokes, you know, the Goes boys. I've got 367 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: some swagger about it, like containy stags and yeah, but 368 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: he's they're all characters Like josh Ad Carr was unbelievable. 369 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: We had like one and a half hour bus trips 370 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: and they just did hear him the whole time and 371 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: oh wow, doesn't play with him. 372 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you there's a few blokes in that scouat. 373 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: I didn't have an ostrich monster as well. Did you 374 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: have any one of ones with him? 375 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 376 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: Mate? When I talk about erratic, yeah, I thought I 377 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: had a little bit of something about another one made 378 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: I love him. 379 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: I was talking imagine about Ryce Walsh and he was 380 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: saying when he first got there, it was like, yeah, 381 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: it's very you. 382 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: You couldn't find two blokes for polar opposites. 383 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: And he was saying he found it like almost not unnerving, 384 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: but just so odd, like the recee main of it, 385 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: and then he said halfway through the year he so 386 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: I just learned to embrace it, he said. 387 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: They went on, they played the. 388 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: Knights, and they went into camp in Newcastle and they 389 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: went around the country, so Newcastle, Cessnok and Maitland, he said, Maitland. 390 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: The whole stadium was packed and it was. 391 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: Like mainly two natche girls, you know, like, yeah, Rich Welsh, 392 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: how'd you find it? 393 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: Like how'd you find that? How'd you find him? So 394 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: Nith was the last one in and out of all 395 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: the sessions and stuff like that, but it was the 396 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: last one to leave any autograph signing. After one of 397 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: the games, we went out of beer and we're together, 398 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: and so we're upstairs and everyone's downstairs and they're all 399 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: obviously wanting him. He's asking him to throw the phone 400 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: up and have photos like that's you know, for me, 401 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: that was pretty cool, Like just to see a guy 402 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: that he could have easy turned his back and away 403 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: from everyone else, but he wanted to. He knew he 404 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: had a responsibility there to because I'm there to see 405 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: him talk thing. So I thought that was pretty cool. 406 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: There was this book written by an English fellow and 407 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: it's called eighty two eighty six, the two tours that 408 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: changed rugby forever, and it's any means by. 409 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: That rugby and rugby league, and it. 410 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: Was on eighty six of course, the Invincibles and the Unbeatables, 411 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: those Kangaroo tours, and reading the one about eighty two, 412 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: it says that wherever they went it was like sports 413 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: version of Beatlemania, like the Kangaroo How this was the 414 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: first Ashes series for such a long time. How was 415 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: it over there? How the boys received. 416 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, outstanding they So England probably got a knock because 417 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: they sort of isolated themselves a little bit. That was 418 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: probably something I heard through media and where the Australian 419 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: guys were the opposite, Like there was a lot of visits. 420 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of community visit, school visits, as I said, 421 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: like there was opening imitations for training and one way 422 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: we go to a pub where it wasn't but they 423 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: still had a responsibility or felt that of responsibility to 424 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: be able to give back to them, So they loved that. 425 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: I think by the end of the tour, you know, 426 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: the Aussie boys probably, yeah, the English guys fans were 427 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: sort of supporting the Aus year purely because of what 428 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: what they gave back. 429 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: Having been in camp with some of those boys, don't 430 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: name names or anything, but where any of the boys 431 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: sort of quizzing on sort of super League and potentially 432 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 4: about going over a little bit. 433 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, the thing I really loved about him. Yeah, 434 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: they they wanted to know, like obviously here they're playing 435 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: against and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, curious about 436 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: the game over here or you know in England itself. Yeah, 437 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: no one sort of said I've got plans to come 438 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: over or whatever, like, but it was more interested. And 439 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: that's what I love. I'm a footyessed about it and 440 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: to be part of you know, guys that are obsessed 441 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: as well as to say guys like Nathan Money, you know, yeah, 442 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: soon he's on the field or he's in a video 443 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: session or you're talking footy like you know, it's. 444 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: He's one of the great, like people see him as 445 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: like American and that. 446 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: But like even we were in Adelaide, I live golf 447 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: together last week and even after a few beers, like 448 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: as soon as you get everyone kind of ventures into 449 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 4: what they want to dn M about. 450 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Monster DNM is about footy. 451 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: All just talks about shape talk like he's he doesn't 452 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: give off, but he's one of the great rugby league thinkers. 453 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: He's always thinking about. 454 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: And the first night we got weam plenty of rock 455 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: into us. And I got up the next day and 456 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I was like probably a little 457 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: bit like I'm like like now in middle aged and 458 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: Vegas don't really go together. But anyway, uh, he got up. 459 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: He got up in the morning like only a couple 460 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: of ours sleep got up about you know, five six went. 461 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: For five k round in a five k bike ride. 462 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Like It's just that's why I love being with them. 463 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: Their elite. You know that when it was time to 464 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: had fun, they had fun. You know, they enjoyed themselves. 465 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: But when it was time to work, they worked. And 466 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: Greece Wats was very similar. He I didn't realize how 467 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: much he loves the game, wants to be better. He 468 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: asked a lot of questions and yeah, it was as 469 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: I said, like, it was so cool. Coop said before 470 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: that you've had a real link with England. 471 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: And for people who don't know, like Willie, when you 472 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: were coming through the grades, how everyone was talking at 473 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: this young guy coming through and then out of nowhere, 474 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: you went to England, but simply went Gateshead, who at 475 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: the time the new franchise at Shane Richard and set 476 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: up Why would why do you. 477 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Go first of the said Bryan for his first tries 478 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: and that was it. He actually caught it. Yeah, well 479 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: wait to be honest. So so what happened the first 480 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: year that I went in and played, played one or 481 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: two games, and you know I was I was linked 482 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: to the next Peter Stirling and that was back page 483 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: or front page of the paper and put a lot 484 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on me a young age, only 485 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: eight at the time, and yeah, I was never never 486 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: going to be the next Stirlough wall you know it was. 487 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: It was obviously a big statement at the time, but 488 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: it was from my coach, you know, and someone that 489 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: cared and loved loved me, and which was Craig Common. 490 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful to Teger for for everything he's done 491 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: for me. So this is not around him, It's more 492 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: just around the I suppose that the pressure that goes 493 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: with playing first grade in the NFL. So I that 494 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: first year and then it was a mad Monday I 495 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: was with We had a mad Monday from Ruber and 496 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: enough so I jumped on the train I was with anyway, 497 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: yeah Newcastle all plays actually did yeah, And so I 498 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: went for a walk. It was my girlfriend at the time, 499 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: and because I got a phone call about going to 500 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: going to Kate Sead anyway, so we just went for 501 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: a walk and then she she said, yeah, I'm happy, 502 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: let's do it. So it was like too young sort 503 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: of kids, just let's uh, let's go and see where 504 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: the world world's about. So anyway, I went over there 505 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: and it was pretty much to get away from the 506 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 1: pressures of over the NRL. So I'll get over there, 507 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: get off the plane, jet legs, anything, and I'll get 508 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: there and there's there's the media there and I say, okay, 509 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: will you So you're the next pair of Stell get 510 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: me back over here, get away from it. So anyway, 511 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: that chased me and then to be able to tell 512 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: you the story, I was actually trying to get back. 513 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: And so we're putting these highlights video together. Brian help 514 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: me with me. So we went to have the volume up. 515 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: So I thought, we'll turn the volume up, and the 516 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Blake said, oh, next pair of Stelli. Not nothing like. 517 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 3: Landlord. 518 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: We we lived together for a while. 519 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: Because he had a question, but he wanted to said, 520 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: can you ask Willie Wayne. He used to send me 521 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: to bed early. 522 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: I wanted to study foot he hated rugby legs. I 523 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: was just up studying footy. 524 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: This morning. It was living with Carney. 525 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: It was very funny as you can imagine because at 526 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: the time he wasn't playing at the start, so he 527 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: was out all the time. So he uh, usually hear 528 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: his stories and lovely stories and and then maybe he's 529 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: his journey like he ended up playing and as you know, 530 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: like he's his story is unbelievab from Gayley Football. Now 531 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: we got picked up to playing with you guys, Delli 532 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: and when you're the incredible incredible Yeah. 533 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: Gates now that club folded and people Gates head. It 534 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: sits near Newcastle ponm Tyane up there. Did you go 535 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: to Wigan after that draft or did you have a 536 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 2: stitch somewhere? 537 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Shane Richardson, who was our owner, they ended up. 538 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: It was a Friday afternoon got us in so we 539 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: just got back for pre season. He basically said to everyone, 540 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: you said, we're packing up, We're going a hole. And 541 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: then on the Saturday I got a call from Wigan 542 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: and then said we're going to We're going to and 543 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: so I said, so you can go to Hoold Look, 544 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: I love Gateshead. Played with a lot of Australian players there. 545 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: Kerara Wallers was there, Danny Lee, some some old guys. 546 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: Obviously you're good players that we had a good team, 547 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: but Wigan, Wigan was It was incredible. It was incredible 548 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: because I played with probably the best leader that I 549 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: played with or seenen was Andy Farrell and you know, mate, 550 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: like takes a while to earn his respect. And I 551 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: lived on the bar the farm where the farm was 552 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: so well there's me. Nie Farrell moved in, which I 553 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: was app you about, and then Chris Radlinsky, Gary Conley, 554 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: Tony Mestrov and I was like the young little kid, 555 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: so my man foot head, so we knocking on Feather's door. 556 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: It's going to come in. Ins got this not like 557 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: little son. I was sitting in the lounge. 558 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: Questions Listeny he's is he Wigan CEO? 559 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: Now? 560 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 561 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah? And of course mas he mainly yeah as well. 562 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: He was Greyhounds hockey. Amazing. 563 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: He got some starts to be after your job next? 564 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: What like your next job? 565 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: Will you and you know with that head because you're 566 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: looking to go back to back with the whole KR. 567 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: But you'll you're being spoken about now was the bloke 568 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: that's most likely to get its housekeeping? 569 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Brian? 570 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: Keep the MIC's rolling. Just hello, oh sorry fresh style. No, 571 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 3: we're all good fresh towels. He's some more ground. He's 572 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: looking at me. It looks like past. 573 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: It's so will Yeah, you're being spoken about now. Is 574 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: the next play like the next job that comes up. 575 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: You're at the top of the list. It's probably working out. 576 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the jobs you don't take in it. 577 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, n RL comped coach is hard, hard to get. 578 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: So look, I'd love to do it in some stage, 579 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: no doubt. But I love what I'm doing now. You know, 580 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: I always wanted to win a camp with KR, but 581 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: I had to win a camp, you know, we had 582 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: to win a camp. But as a coach for me 583 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: personally to go back to the NRL to be taken serious, 584 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: you know, that was what I knew I had to do, 585 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: so me coming over to the Super League. Yes, I 586 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: wanted to obviously try and coach in an RL, but 587 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: it was it was just a coach because I love coaching. Yeah, 588 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: and then you know, obviously winning the Grand Finals helped 589 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: them probably get a little bit of just around. 590 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 4: You're supposed you spoke about like winning a come to 591 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: get that sort of respect and I suppose eyeballs. 592 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: On you for it. 593 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: But last week beating the Broncos and that World Club Challenge, 594 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: that that must be like, that must be just as 595 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: equally huge in getting sort of those eyeballs from the 596 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 4: NRL as well. 597 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for as a team is probably probably 598 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: bigger because you think about the Bronx like and the 599 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: type of players, salary cap like the salary episode different. 600 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: You know, what is this difference? It's a lot. Yeah, 601 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: so we're like only I think it's two and a 602 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: half thousand places, but it's probably half well yeah, yeah, yeah, 603 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: it's probably half of what the NL is. So look, 604 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: I think just how that game went and how we 605 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: won it, that was like, speaking of the players, that 606 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: was the most special for them. You know, they said 607 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: it was bigger than the Grand from the atmosphere fill 608 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, electricly grandphon the Sorry, the atmosphere and the 609 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Grand Final was electric, but this was this was different. Yeah, 610 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of whole there's a couple of 611 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: whole FC guys playing with us now and it's just 612 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: little things around that they got moved on from FC 613 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: and they're playing at that stadium, so it just meant 614 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more. 615 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: Well, there's there's a famous book out I think in 616 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: terms it on a movie is called When Munster Boat 617 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: the All Blacks, When the touring All Blacks side went 618 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: and the province team of Munster in Ireland boot them. 619 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: I say, okay, I was sat one hundred years time 620 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: that if people still going eight, I remember when this 621 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 2: great Bronco sign come to Craven Cottage and we actually 622 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: will Hull and we're not to mar and boot them 623 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: with the players were they was where any you just 624 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: sense any intimidation going into the game. 625 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: Will No, I didn't because we didn't want to have 626 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: that approach, like we don't usually name our team, so 627 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: URL using the name of their team so we don't 628 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: have to name our team for like an hour beforehand, 629 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: so we're using that name in twenty one. But I 630 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: think the approach that we wanted to take was this 631 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: is us, you know who we are and agress Yeah, yeah, 632 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: we're proud of that. And let's go like there's no 633 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: there's no surprises, so they could have been a surprise. 634 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: Jess Little was sick during the week, so he possibly 635 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: was going to go to the bench, but that he started. 636 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: But that was the mindset and the players. You know, 637 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of players in that in our team 638 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: that either probably didn't have the careers in the NL 639 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: that a few regrets, so this was way that they 640 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: can you know personally, Yeah, absolutely, There's then there's guys 641 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: that have had really good careers that do I still 642 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: have what it takes just to play? It's only one 643 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: off game, but you know, to prove myself against a 644 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: team like the Bronx, And then guys in England. Am 645 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: I good enough to go over there? Is it something 646 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: I could do down the track or I'm never going 647 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: to go there, but can I mix it with the best? 648 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 649 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: So there was there was so much personal reason. We 650 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: spoke around that, like there's so many different reasons personally, 651 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: but collectively it was like you say, I think I 652 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: can't remember exactly the year it was, but okay, I 653 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: beat Queensland, which was unbelow ever knew that until I 654 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: arrived at the club. They beat Queensland eighty nine. 655 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: I think we're talking about last night eighties. 656 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it might have been eighty five or something, but 657 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: I just that just blows me away. 658 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: Queensland points the Queens beat went through. 659 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: I think they beat Wiggan and someone else after and 660 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: then they tried to do a rematch with Hull to 661 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: get one and. 662 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: I think a whole set. 663 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we might might do the same against the Broncos. 664 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: That's it. I was going to ask you about will He. 665 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talked about football, right will He 666 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: And they say, you know, if you're not totally focused 667 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: and you're not on, anyone can beat you. What was 668 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: amazing the week before you beat the Broncos you get 669 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: beat by York City And I was sitting there at 670 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: work and watching it, and when I saw it, really 671 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: I thought, will He's obviously rested all the players, but 672 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: you didn't just Even't that a lesson where your focus 673 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: has split? That must have been we're going to head 674 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: of the Bronx. 675 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: Because we didn't want to do that, because it was literally, 676 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: like I know, cliche and rugby league. It's true, you 677 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: can't look too far ahead, and we made sure that 678 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: we didn't look too far. It was probably we weren't 679 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: asked like, but we got to a twelve point lead. 680 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: Mike he lewis at a moment of madness. You know, 681 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: he's he's owned that. But collectively we didn't do it normally, 682 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: which is we were pulled tighter. Things are tough, we 683 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: were pulled tighter, you know, but we sort of pulled apart. 684 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: It was just how we got beat. That was the 685 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: worst thing for me because native respect, we probably shouldn't 686 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: have got people by your because I'm talking about the 687 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: salary cap with the Bronx and us. Our salary cap 688 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: compared to their salary caps different as well. You know, 689 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: a lot of teams in the Super League now are 690 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: spending cap where York wouldn't be spinning cap. So what 691 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: we did make we took a lot of what they 692 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: did against us into the Bronx. Let's not fear them. 693 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 1: We respect them, but let's not fear them. Let's go 694 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: after it. Who knows where it takes you. 695 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: And you know, in a weird way, it like probably 696 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: gave you guys more belief of like if they can 697 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: upset us on our day, Like what's to say that 698 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 4: Broncos can turn a little bit complacent and we can 699 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: do the same to that. 700 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was our mentality when you were at to 701 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: start well and watching the game back Broncos actually started well, 702 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: like they had us on the back foot. We got 703 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: through that period and then and obviously then we went 704 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, back to back with a couple of tries, 705 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: a couple of kick tries. 706 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: We nervous up in the coaching box because it's sort 707 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: of got very tight towards the end of the game Broncrest. 708 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: We got on a roll, very nervous when it got 709 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: to thirty to twenty. It was like thirteen minutes ago 710 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: that the way that they'd come back. Then I was like, 711 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: we're going to have to really really fight. And then 712 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: they've always did like they did well to hang on 713 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: because they just threw everything at us, everything at us, 714 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and they did well to hang on. 715 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: Well, you've been a player and you've been a coach. 716 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: What's more Like you spoke about the pressure of being 717 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 4: called the next Peter Sterling, is it harder the pressure 718 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 4: of being a coach, like when you're up in that 719 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: coaching box on game day compared to being a player. 720 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: Look, coach is not about you the coach is about 721 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: the team, and I love Growing up, I've always like, 722 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: I love helping people. That's been while I got into coaching. 723 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: You know, that's probably the main reason why I got 724 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: into coaching, because I genuinely like helping a mate I he 725 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: was in trouble. I helped, you know, well, anyone that 726 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: asked me for something growing up, I'd always make sure 727 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: that I get done for them. So you sort of 728 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: us that in the coaching. You know, for me, coach 729 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: is not about you. It's about getting a team prepared, 730 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: getting as tight as possible, working hard for each other. 731 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: Pretty much is over to them. Like if these guys 732 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: don't want to go play, we don't win. For they've 733 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: won the four you know they're wonderful, but you've got 734 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: to own it as a coach when you don't win, 735 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: because you look at your prep, what you did wrong 736 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. So I'm you know, 737 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: I always wanted to get into coaching, but I was 738 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: I had to make sure that I was ready, and 739 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, people saw about you're ready. You know, you've 740 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: got to love it and be obsessed about it, which 741 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: which I am. But at the end of the day, 742 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: I think it's it's more about the players. They're the 743 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: ones that do it. You know, ess usually do it. 744 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: So I find coaching easy. I've learned a lot. I 745 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: mean naturally, when you're a young kid, I probably wasn't 746 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: ready for that spotlight and you know you're young, you 747 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: carry on your drink and or whatever, and so now like, 748 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: I know what works for me, what makes me feel 749 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: good in my life, and I pretty much stick to that. 750 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking to Brian. When we did the podcast 751 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: here I saw the gibberjabble. We had a couple of 752 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: clarity talking about coming to the comp which is going 753 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: to be the most amazing, intriguing expansion, not just in 754 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 2: Raguda League that I've seen in sport. Would you coach 755 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: P and G if they come knocking a look. 756 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: Certainly have the conversation. It's a unique job. And look, 757 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: I think I just spoke before around I love bringing 758 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: a team together. I love people talking about being a 759 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: family environment. I genuinely love that because I think that 760 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: that helps win. So there's a lot involved, though the 761 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: main one for me is my family. Yeah. Yeah, that's 762 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: a big one, massive, you know, so you know, my 763 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: kids have got to be on board. My wife's got 764 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: to be on board. But you know, we to find 765 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: out if there are conversations to be had, you know, 766 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: what's their vision? What do they see this franchise we're 767 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: doing because rugby league's fun when you win, and it's 768 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: what you're doing for you know, So you want to 769 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: put together, you know, a roster that you believe well, 770 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: you know we you know, P and G believe that 771 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: they can win. So look, if there's a conversation to 772 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: be had, I will they think, okay, be someone when 773 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: to have a chat to? I would, you know, But 774 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: there's so many different things to know, we'll get through. 775 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: The Other one, too, is just you're all living together. 776 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: It's like almost like you're living on top of each other. 777 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: It would be like you'd actually have basically no off 778 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: switch from coaching, you know what I mean. 779 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: There's a problem. 780 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, you're going to have situations with families and 781 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: stuff and you're almost going to look after all that 782 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 2: as well. 783 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was in the bubble, the bubble. Yeah, 784 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: so I've got a really good sort of idea what 785 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: that was like where this is going to be Tom's 786 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: five hundred. Because you're living together every day, I've been clearing, 787 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: I've been watching Penrith. My wife said me at the time, said, 788 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: you guys know when the comp then in the commers, 789 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: So why is that? I just can't believe how you know, 790 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: connected they are and family and all, that's what he's 791 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: going to be needed. 792 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, to be successful that people talk about having like 793 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: a no dickhead policy and bringing good people in the 794 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 4: club from administration all the plain group that PNG that 795 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: that has to be their number one priority. You have 796 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: one cancerrous person in that organization where people living, it 797 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 4: will just feed. 798 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: Through the whole COM's all. It's all people and then 799 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: but it's not just the players it is, it's going 800 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: to be partners. And how invested the partners are. Yeah, 801 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: like you can't have yeah, your clicks and and of 802 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: course you're going to have you know, humans, disagreements and whatever. 803 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: But it's going to you need to find time as well, downtime. 804 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: But your hundred percent right, It's it's all around bringing 805 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: in people that truly love that family environment, connection and 806 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: they they don't want too much drama in their life 807 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: because if you want that. 808 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: My dad loves watching actually loves unbelievable those but it's incredible. 809 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: He's been applying, trying to go on. 810 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: I was shattered the other night because it's on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 811 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: I got my days mixed up and I'm sitting there 812 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 2: and said, what's going on. I realized it was a Thursday. Anyway, 813 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 2: it's been fantastic for Vagas Plans. 814 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: Behave yourself, get two points and then we'll see what 815 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: happens from you boys. Actually stay away from Carnie. You 816 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,479 Speaker 1: come in there and stop shooting the corner