1 00:00:05,241 --> 00:00:07,801 Speaker 1: Hmm, approach a production. 2 00:00:23,721 --> 00:00:24,401 Speaker 2: For the record. 3 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:27,681 Speaker 3: I'm done trying to make you all comfortable, Poto record. 4 00:00:27,801 --> 00:00:29,121 Speaker 3: You ain't trying to grow do any stuff for. 5 00:00:29,081 --> 00:00:30,921 Speaker 4: Your photo record. 6 00:00:31,161 --> 00:00:34,241 Speaker 3: Laugh on me going all the way for the record. 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Ain't trying to link, No, trying to waste stop for. 8 00:00:37,081 --> 00:00:39,441 Speaker 4: The record, for the record. 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:46,761 Speaker 3: For the record, for the record, for the record, for 10 00:00:46,921 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: the record, for the record. I'm done trying to make 11 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:52,241 Speaker 3: you all comfortable. 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,561 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the clink and I too. Of Brand's 13 00:00:55,641 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 5: chat with Waka Typhi, we will now hear about the 14 00:00:58,601 --> 00:01:02,201 Speaker 5: turning point that put Walker on the pathway to redemption. 15 00:01:04,001 --> 00:01:04,681 Speaker 4: Yourself walk. 16 00:01:05,881 --> 00:01:08,601 Speaker 5: You know you're a man of faith that walks that 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,761 Speaker 5: faith every day. You know, I follow your journey on 18 00:01:12,801 --> 00:01:14,241 Speaker 5: your Instagram. 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,241 Speaker 4: Phenomenal, phenomenal. I just want to ask you. 20 00:01:17,321 --> 00:01:19,801 Speaker 5: And then, as a father who went through very similar 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 5: things young children, I have an older son obviously who's 22 00:01:23,601 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 5: twenty five. He was, you know, a young man, young 23 00:01:26,761 --> 00:01:28,921 Speaker 5: boy becoming a young teenager, so that was very hard 24 00:01:28,961 --> 00:01:29,601 Speaker 5: for him when I. 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: Was doing my six years. But there was things that 26 00:01:32,881 --> 00:01:35,041 Speaker 4: my children said to me that were a turning point. 27 00:01:34,881 --> 00:01:38,241 Speaker 5: In my life that really hit home, that made me 28 00:01:38,321 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 5: decide that I needed to stand up and be a father, 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,321 Speaker 5: a better man, a present human, a loving father, a 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,081 Speaker 5: caring for them, not be so selfish and think about 31 00:01:49,121 --> 00:01:51,321 Speaker 5: myself and what made me feel good? 32 00:01:51,361 --> 00:01:53,681 Speaker 4: And you know where my chest needed to be pumped out? 33 00:01:54,201 --> 00:01:54,841 Speaker 4: What was it for you? 34 00:01:55,561 --> 00:01:59,441 Speaker 1: That there was definitely definitely a dear brother was knowing 35 00:01:59,481 --> 00:02:02,001 Speaker 1: that I need to be there with my children. If 36 00:02:02,041 --> 00:02:04,481 Speaker 1: my baby falls over and hurt your knee, I want 37 00:02:04,521 --> 00:02:06,841 Speaker 1: to be there put the bandage on it. If my 38 00:02:07,001 --> 00:02:08,921 Speaker 1: son is you know, need someone to talk to you, 39 00:02:09,001 --> 00:02:09,921 Speaker 1: I want to be their man. 40 00:02:10,001 --> 00:02:10,761 Speaker 2: He can talk to you. 41 00:02:10,841 --> 00:02:12,761 Speaker 1: I want to be their man that can cuddle him 42 00:02:12,801 --> 00:02:15,321 Speaker 1: if he you know, if he's if he said for 43 00:02:15,481 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: my daughter, I want to be the person there that 44 00:02:17,761 --> 00:02:19,801 Speaker 1: you can just love her and cuddle her and just 45 00:02:20,081 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: tell everything's going to be all right now. I want 46 00:02:22,281 --> 00:02:24,201 Speaker 1: to be that guy when at school holidays that they 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,561 Speaker 1: can yeah, I can be there with them. I want 48 00:02:26,601 --> 00:02:28,721 Speaker 1: to be able to just love my babies, you know, 49 00:02:28,761 --> 00:02:30,681 Speaker 1: And I can't do that from inside of jail cell. 50 00:02:32,041 --> 00:02:37,521 Speaker 1: And that's what used to hit me real man talk. Yeah, Now, 51 00:02:37,601 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: there was definitely a brother and a stall. Yeah, it 52 00:02:41,401 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: was my babies, my kids, I'm. 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,441 Speaker 4: Just got to take a breath, because it's funny. 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: It's not funny at the realization of you know, just 55 00:02:52,761 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: sitting here interviewing you, but feeling it myself. I can 56 00:02:56,161 --> 00:02:59,321 Speaker 5: feel exactly everything you just said then, and when you're 57 00:02:59,441 --> 00:03:02,281 Speaker 5: very similar in your paths and you know you've walked 58 00:03:02,881 --> 00:03:06,561 Speaker 5: similar paths of the jail and all that sort of stuff. 59 00:03:07,441 --> 00:03:10,161 Speaker 5: You know, some people can become very cold and just 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,361 Speaker 5: completely disconnect, and sometimes you have to. But you need 61 00:03:16,401 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: to find peace in your heart and peace within yourself. 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 5: And hearing you talk then about being you know that 63 00:03:21,921 --> 00:03:22,961 Speaker 5: man for your children. 64 00:03:23,161 --> 00:03:23,641 Speaker 4: Poor bro. 65 00:03:24,881 --> 00:03:27,601 Speaker 5: You know I have four children and my son I 66 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,601 Speaker 5: wasn't there to see born because I was in jail, 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,681 Speaker 5: and that never leaves me. You know, I can't experience, 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,081 Speaker 5: can't talk to him on his birthdays. And remember that, 69 00:03:35,201 --> 00:03:37,521 Speaker 5: I remember when you know your mom gave her I 70 00:03:37,561 --> 00:03:41,801 Speaker 5: wasn't there. He out of four children here he you know, 71 00:03:41,881 --> 00:03:45,521 Speaker 5: it's been he's now fourteen. But it's a long journey 72 00:03:45,561 --> 00:03:48,241 Speaker 5: because he's old enough to have that conversation. You know, 73 00:03:48,321 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 5: he can, he can ask me whatever he wants. There's 74 00:03:50,441 --> 00:03:53,081 Speaker 5: nothing hidden here. I'm sure you're the same, you know, 75 00:03:53,121 --> 00:03:55,961 Speaker 5: We're very open in our family, and that's how I 76 00:03:56,001 --> 00:03:58,281 Speaker 5: want my children to see it. Not to be scared 77 00:03:58,321 --> 00:04:00,281 Speaker 5: to ask, not to be scared to speak up. You know, 78 00:04:00,601 --> 00:04:01,521 Speaker 5: they have a right to know. 79 00:04:01,881 --> 00:04:03,641 Speaker 4: Where was I? Why wasn't I there? 80 00:04:05,121 --> 00:04:05,361 Speaker 2: Yeah? 81 00:04:05,401 --> 00:04:07,321 Speaker 4: Why was I not there? When I was born? When 82 00:04:07,321 --> 00:04:09,321 Speaker 4: you when you know, Dad? While were you not there? 83 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:11,041 Speaker 4: Because I was selfish? 84 00:04:12,001 --> 00:04:14,081 Speaker 5: Because I was more and more involved in snort and 85 00:04:14,121 --> 00:04:16,961 Speaker 5: coke and and being a gang member then you know, 86 00:04:17,921 --> 00:04:20,161 Speaker 5: being a real man and stepping up and being beside 87 00:04:20,161 --> 00:04:21,801 Speaker 5: your mum while she was given birth. 88 00:04:22,281 --> 00:04:24,641 Speaker 1: I feel you, my brother, one hundred percent. I feel you, 89 00:04:24,681 --> 00:04:28,281 Speaker 1: my brother. Very selfish. I was very selfish. That's that's 90 00:04:28,281 --> 00:04:29,241 Speaker 1: what I put it down to you. 91 00:04:29,281 --> 00:04:29,481 Speaker 2: Brother. 92 00:04:29,521 --> 00:04:36,801 Speaker 1: I became selfish, didn't care about anyone but myself. Yeah, yeah, brother, 93 00:04:37,081 --> 00:04:38,361 Speaker 1: I feel you on there, my man. 94 00:04:39,601 --> 00:04:41,481 Speaker 4: And I bet you're one of the best dads around. 95 00:04:41,601 --> 00:04:44,481 Speaker 5: And your your children would be so grateful and and 96 00:04:44,481 --> 00:04:46,881 Speaker 5: and just blessed every day to have you in their 97 00:04:46,921 --> 00:04:49,081 Speaker 5: loving arms, and how powerful, how. 98 00:04:49,001 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Awesome my best Yeah, I'm very lucky to have those 99 00:04:54,521 --> 00:04:57,161 Speaker 1: have my beautiful kids, brother, very lucky to have them 100 00:04:57,201 --> 00:05:00,361 Speaker 1: in my life. And they're so beautiful, brother, they mean 101 00:05:00,401 --> 00:05:01,841 Speaker 1: the will to me, They really do. 102 00:05:03,481 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is and and and you know, I just pray, 103 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,241 Speaker 5: I pray to God that you never ever get brought 104 00:05:08,281 --> 00:05:12,361 Speaker 5: back into, you know, anything from the past, because that's 105 00:05:12,361 --> 00:05:14,921 Speaker 5: my situation now, fifteen years ago and I'm back three 106 00:05:15,001 --> 00:05:16,881 Speaker 5: years on Supreme Court bail now. 107 00:05:16,921 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: And you know what it's done and doing to my children. 108 00:05:21,801 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: It's terrible. 109 00:05:22,561 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: You know, they live every day fearing that their dad's 110 00:05:24,721 --> 00:05:26,361 Speaker 5: not going to be coming home one day again. 111 00:05:26,401 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: And that's it rips me to pieces in my heart. 112 00:05:30,361 --> 00:05:32,601 Speaker 5: And because you make that promise, you know, the last 113 00:05:32,641 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: time in two thousand and nine, that was it for me. 114 00:05:34,481 --> 00:05:36,361 Speaker 5: I finished my sentence and I was it made a 115 00:05:36,401 --> 00:05:38,401 Speaker 5: promise never go back, and I was never going back. 116 00:05:38,401 --> 00:05:40,241 Speaker 4: And I'm not going back if I have a choice, 117 00:05:40,281 --> 00:05:40,841 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 118 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,361 Speaker 5: And to be dragged into something that's got nothing to 119 00:05:44,401 --> 00:05:46,641 Speaker 5: do with me. But you know, that's that's the way 120 00:05:46,681 --> 00:05:48,841 Speaker 5: they work, isn't it. They try to break you and 121 00:05:49,201 --> 00:05:51,241 Speaker 5: pull you down when they see you doing good and 122 00:05:51,281 --> 00:05:53,161 Speaker 5: this is this sad thing. They'll tell you that to 123 00:05:53,201 --> 00:05:54,761 Speaker 5: your face. So we know life's good, we know you're 124 00:05:54,761 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: doing all right, so help us, well, help you? 125 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,841 Speaker 4: Well, what do you want me to lie to you. 126 00:06:00,001 --> 00:06:01,361 Speaker 5: I've got nothing to say, you know, And at the 127 00:06:01,401 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 5: end of the day they use that against you. Next minute, boom, 128 00:06:04,361 --> 00:06:06,881 Speaker 5: you're back in this. The system just doesn't let you go. 129 00:06:08,521 --> 00:06:10,721 Speaker 5: But we must continue to have faith, and we must 130 00:06:10,721 --> 00:06:12,721 Speaker 5: continue to turn up on a daily basis, and we 131 00:06:12,801 --> 00:06:14,521 Speaker 5: must continue to be the best we can be as 132 00:06:14,601 --> 00:06:17,281 Speaker 5: father as men, as community men, as leaders, as people 133 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: that are here having this conversation today, and our purpose 134 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,841 Speaker 5: of helping others through shared experience, lived experience, powerful stories 135 00:06:24,841 --> 00:06:28,241 Speaker 5: of redemption. And this is exactly why we are here, 136 00:06:28,361 --> 00:06:30,841 Speaker 5: is to give back to the ones that we don't 137 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 5: want them to see. 138 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:34,481 Speaker 4: The walk down those paths. It's not a nice, nice walk, 139 00:06:34,921 --> 00:06:36,481 Speaker 4: and it ain't all that it's meant out to be. 140 00:06:39,201 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, brother, it's not all it's made out to be. 141 00:06:41,681 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: All right, you know, A big one that's sort of 142 00:06:45,561 --> 00:06:47,401 Speaker 1: stixt for me. You know, I was sort of growing 143 00:06:47,481 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: up hearing things like, you know, be who you want 144 00:06:49,481 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: to be. You know, you can be whoever you want 145 00:06:51,241 --> 00:06:53,561 Speaker 1: to be. We're a big one for me. Brothers, be 146 00:06:53,641 --> 00:06:56,681 Speaker 1: who you are. You know who you are. God's he 147 00:06:56,761 --> 00:06:58,881 Speaker 1: created a purpose for you and it's the best purpose 148 00:06:58,921 --> 00:07:01,121 Speaker 1: and the best life you could ever live that's already 149 00:07:01,201 --> 00:07:03,881 Speaker 1: inside you. Instead of trying to chase him, be this 150 00:07:04,001 --> 00:07:05,481 Speaker 1: or be there, or be who you want to be. 151 00:07:05,641 --> 00:07:08,201 Speaker 1: Who you are. Being who you are will lead you 152 00:07:08,201 --> 00:07:10,961 Speaker 1: into you know, and to the best life you can live. 153 00:07:11,041 --> 00:07:11,321 Speaker 2: Brother. 154 00:07:11,481 --> 00:07:14,161 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we try and we're being taught to 155 00:07:14,241 --> 00:07:15,921 Speaker 1: one to be this or one to be there. 156 00:07:16,401 --> 00:07:19,881 Speaker 2: Man, at the end of the day, be who you are. Yeah. 157 00:07:19,881 --> 00:07:22,841 Speaker 5: Wow, I love looking at you and you talk, brother, 158 00:07:22,921 --> 00:07:25,641 Speaker 5: You're you're a small man in stature, but when you speak, 159 00:07:25,721 --> 00:07:27,561 Speaker 5: you're you're a twenty foot tall giant. 160 00:07:27,561 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: Brother. 161 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:30,561 Speaker 5: It's it's it's beautiful to watch and I want to 162 00:07:30,601 --> 00:07:33,841 Speaker 5: just take that in and thank you because I'm appreciating 163 00:07:33,841 --> 00:07:37,401 Speaker 5: each time you speak and return in this conversation. I 164 00:07:37,441 --> 00:07:39,321 Speaker 5: do want to ask you that I think it's important 165 00:07:39,321 --> 00:07:42,441 Speaker 5: because people would want to know how was it for 166 00:07:42,521 --> 00:07:44,481 Speaker 5: you to leave the mob and how how did you 167 00:07:44,521 --> 00:07:45,121 Speaker 5: go about that? 168 00:07:45,241 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: When was that time? 169 00:07:46,241 --> 00:07:48,961 Speaker 5: And look, you know, let's be honest, we're both been there. 170 00:07:50,081 --> 00:07:51,721 Speaker 5: There's a way of doing things and you don't just 171 00:07:52,081 --> 00:07:54,441 Speaker 5: hand your patching and that's it. You know, there's certain 172 00:07:54,721 --> 00:07:57,041 Speaker 5: certain ways and respect that needs to be done to 173 00:07:57,081 --> 00:07:59,561 Speaker 5: be able to have that next stage of your life. 174 00:07:59,721 --> 00:08:01,881 Speaker 1: I'd be honest with you, brother, was the hardest decision 175 00:08:01,921 --> 00:08:03,921 Speaker 1: I've ever hit the make in my life. You know, 176 00:08:04,121 --> 00:08:07,241 Speaker 1: it was a you know, I was one of the 177 00:08:07,241 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: hardest decisions I've even had to make in my life. 178 00:08:11,081 --> 00:08:13,001 Speaker 1: You know, there was so much around it, you know, 179 00:08:13,041 --> 00:08:15,641 Speaker 1: there was so much trying to prevent me from making 180 00:08:15,681 --> 00:08:18,481 Speaker 1: their choice. But I'd be all honest, my brother, I 181 00:08:18,481 --> 00:08:21,441 Speaker 1: had done it. Awful God, my brother. 182 00:08:22,241 --> 00:08:25,881 Speaker 4: How are the brothers when you say that, because obviously, 183 00:08:25,921 --> 00:08:31,281 Speaker 4: you know we all know, especially in New Zealand, you know, 184 00:08:31,361 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: religion is very strong, very deep, and you get some 185 00:08:34,601 --> 00:08:37,441 Speaker 4: very dangerous, very dangerous men. But I will still go 186 00:08:37,521 --> 00:08:40,281 Speaker 4: to church every week, I'll still pray every day. But 187 00:08:40,321 --> 00:08:42,001 Speaker 4: don't cross them, you know what I mean. 188 00:08:42,201 --> 00:08:47,281 Speaker 5: Like they're bad, bad men, but beautiful hearts and absolute 189 00:08:47,321 --> 00:08:50,401 Speaker 5: full of faith. How was that taken by the brothers 190 00:08:50,441 --> 00:08:53,361 Speaker 5: in the club when their brother stands up after ten 191 00:08:53,441 --> 00:08:56,041 Speaker 5: years have been plus or ten years plus of being 192 00:08:56,081 --> 00:08:58,481 Speaker 5: a solid foundation member, you know, someone a stand up 193 00:08:58,481 --> 00:08:59,201 Speaker 5: guy who's. 194 00:08:58,921 --> 00:09:01,481 Speaker 4: Just done the job done. The brother you're the man 195 00:09:01,801 --> 00:09:05,321 Speaker 4: in the clique, you know what I mean. You're a soldier. 196 00:09:05,441 --> 00:09:08,561 Speaker 5: Now you're turning to God and you're leaving the brothers 197 00:09:08,561 --> 00:09:10,361 Speaker 5: in the club for the Bible. 198 00:09:10,441 --> 00:09:11,321 Speaker 4: How does that work? 199 00:09:12,201 --> 00:09:14,681 Speaker 1: Well, brother, you know, by the grace and mercy of God, 200 00:09:14,721 --> 00:09:19,121 Speaker 1: it's I've been taken in with open arms. To be honest, brother, 201 00:09:22,241 --> 00:09:25,761 Speaker 1: I know some brothers, some brothers, oh, a lot of 202 00:09:25,761 --> 00:09:27,961 Speaker 1: brothers are actually shocked. You know, a lot of people 203 00:09:28,001 --> 00:09:31,481 Speaker 1: were shocked from it. Some some have said to me that, 204 00:09:31,641 --> 00:09:34,921 Speaker 1: you know, some have actually said that we always knew 205 00:09:34,961 --> 00:09:37,521 Speaker 1: there was you know, the guy I am today. 206 00:09:37,361 --> 00:09:39,441 Speaker 2: They looked, they said to me, we always knew that 207 00:09:39,641 --> 00:09:41,521 Speaker 2: was you. We always used to wonder, like fa, this 208 00:09:42,921 --> 00:09:44,561 Speaker 2: lifestyle doesn't really suit this guy. 209 00:09:45,601 --> 00:09:48,081 Speaker 1: But then you know, I have a lot of a 210 00:09:48,161 --> 00:09:50,201 Speaker 1: lot of brothers and a lot of brothers that are 211 00:09:50,281 --> 00:09:52,641 Speaker 1: very proud, you know, very proud to see me standing 212 00:09:52,681 --> 00:09:55,961 Speaker 1: and who I am, and very supportive. 213 00:09:56,201 --> 00:09:58,041 Speaker 2: To be honest, they've been very supportive. Brother. 214 00:09:58,201 --> 00:10:01,121 Speaker 1: And you know, it could have many times, it could 215 00:10:01,121 --> 00:10:04,801 Speaker 1: have went either way, but the brothers have been very supportive. 216 00:10:05,801 --> 00:10:08,721 Speaker 4: You're very support to give credit where credits due. 217 00:10:08,761 --> 00:10:11,921 Speaker 5: That to me shows the strength of the family, tithes 218 00:10:12,001 --> 00:10:12,841 Speaker 5: and the love. 219 00:10:13,241 --> 00:10:13,961 Speaker 4: As you said in. 220 00:10:13,921 --> 00:10:16,161 Speaker 5: The beginning of our chat, and this is why I 221 00:10:16,201 --> 00:10:18,601 Speaker 5: wanted to get this clear for our listeners because there 222 00:10:18,681 --> 00:10:22,201 Speaker 5: is a lot there that we don't talk about. We 223 00:10:22,241 --> 00:10:24,401 Speaker 5: won't talk about, and we don't need to talk about 224 00:10:24,481 --> 00:10:27,361 Speaker 5: because that's just how it is. We don't discuss the 225 00:10:27,361 --> 00:10:31,081 Speaker 5: in depth of club life, right But from the outside 226 00:10:31,081 --> 00:10:34,041 Speaker 5: looking in, I think that we can give enough surface 227 00:10:34,121 --> 00:10:38,161 Speaker 5: information for someone to understand. And I think everybody's perception is, 228 00:10:38,601 --> 00:10:40,641 Speaker 5: how do you walk away from a patch like that 229 00:10:40,761 --> 00:10:44,921 Speaker 5: after being such an influential member, our strong member, a soldier. 230 00:10:44,601 --> 00:10:47,241 Speaker 4: You know what I mean that? And it is hard, 231 00:10:47,361 --> 00:10:48,601 Speaker 4: and it is extremely hard. 232 00:10:48,761 --> 00:10:51,001 Speaker 5: And you know hearing you say that, because I can 233 00:10:51,041 --> 00:10:53,961 Speaker 5: relate and to the point where you know you go 234 00:10:54,081 --> 00:10:57,041 Speaker 5: from there's always brothers besides your the phones on all 235 00:10:57,081 --> 00:11:00,441 Speaker 5: the time ring and you know this, that just dead silence. 236 00:11:00,561 --> 00:11:03,841 Speaker 5: It is silent, sure when you see each other in 237 00:11:03,841 --> 00:11:06,161 Speaker 5: the street, long as there's no bad but it's always respectful, 238 00:11:06,801 --> 00:11:09,521 Speaker 5: you know, and thank God for that as well. 239 00:11:10,561 --> 00:11:14,241 Speaker 4: But you don't the phone don't ring. No one goes 240 00:11:14,241 --> 00:11:14,641 Speaker 4: out of their. 241 00:11:14,561 --> 00:11:16,441 Speaker 5: Way to come and have a barbecue, or come and 242 00:11:16,521 --> 00:11:18,281 Speaker 5: check in or see how you're doing all that. You know, 243 00:11:18,441 --> 00:11:19,761 Speaker 5: Like I say, you see each other in the street, 244 00:11:19,761 --> 00:11:23,761 Speaker 5: it's always respectful and gentleman like you shake hands, hug whatever. 245 00:11:23,881 --> 00:11:26,761 Speaker 5: But outside of that, you're no longer a brother of 246 00:11:26,881 --> 00:11:31,201 Speaker 5: the club. You're not a member of the club. So 247 00:11:31,401 --> 00:11:34,801 Speaker 5: technically you are an outsider to the inner club, you 248 00:11:34,841 --> 00:11:35,321 Speaker 5: know what I mean. 249 00:11:35,441 --> 00:11:36,201 Speaker 4: Like respect is. 250 00:11:36,161 --> 00:11:37,961 Speaker 5: There, yeah, high and by and all the short talk, 251 00:11:38,041 --> 00:11:41,401 Speaker 5: but reality is that's where it stops. 252 00:11:41,681 --> 00:11:42,561 Speaker 4: And it's a hard thing. 253 00:11:42,801 --> 00:11:44,921 Speaker 5: It's a hard thing in the brother because you also 254 00:11:45,081 --> 00:11:46,281 Speaker 5: you put your life into that. 255 00:11:46,361 --> 00:11:49,361 Speaker 4: You lived and breathe that life for so many years. 256 00:11:49,401 --> 00:11:53,161 Speaker 5: You're a young man, you know, that's that's everything. So 257 00:11:53,241 --> 00:11:57,401 Speaker 5: now I'm being a soldier of God and here you 258 00:11:57,481 --> 00:12:01,721 Speaker 5: are walking the righteous path. And I'm sure there's times 259 00:12:01,761 --> 00:12:02,761 Speaker 5: there other than your own. 260 00:12:02,841 --> 00:12:04,001 Speaker 4: You know, your brother who. 261 00:12:03,921 --> 00:12:06,081 Speaker 5: Obviously has got your back to to the grave and 262 00:12:06,121 --> 00:12:08,681 Speaker 5: God bless him, but I'm sure that there's times there 263 00:12:08,721 --> 00:12:11,161 Speaker 5: where you walked tall on your own as well, and 264 00:12:11,281 --> 00:12:13,801 Speaker 5: not like when you've had the brothers besides you with 265 00:12:13,841 --> 00:12:14,521 Speaker 5: the patch. 266 00:12:14,241 --> 00:12:16,041 Speaker 4: And you know you're going here and there and you're 267 00:12:16,081 --> 00:12:22,321 Speaker 4: one out, you're just doing you. That's where the real strength, 268 00:12:22,361 --> 00:12:25,721 Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerned, shines. That's where you see that. 269 00:12:25,841 --> 00:12:28,161 Speaker 5: Man, It's like they you know, you talk about people 270 00:12:28,161 --> 00:12:31,361 Speaker 5: coming into clubs. I don't get a lot of today. 271 00:12:31,481 --> 00:12:33,041 Speaker 5: And I ain't going to get into the politics because 272 00:12:33,161 --> 00:12:35,361 Speaker 5: I'm not going to speak down or belittle anybody, but 273 00:12:35,401 --> 00:12:39,241 Speaker 5: I just don't understand the way things work today. It's 274 00:12:39,241 --> 00:12:41,761 Speaker 5: a different way. You know, you don't have to be 275 00:12:41,801 --> 00:12:45,321 Speaker 5: a man before you earn your patch. You can come 276 00:12:45,361 --> 00:12:46,841 Speaker 5: in and not be a man and still get a 277 00:12:46,881 --> 00:12:49,881 Speaker 5: patch and still pretend to be somebody and hide behind 278 00:12:49,881 --> 00:12:51,761 Speaker 5: the colors and all this sort of stuff, and then 279 00:12:51,801 --> 00:12:53,521 Speaker 5: all of a sudden you've got money and you're moving 280 00:12:53,561 --> 00:12:56,041 Speaker 5: and shaken whatever. Next minute you're high flying and you've 281 00:12:56,081 --> 00:12:58,841 Speaker 5: got the protection and you can't be touched. What the 282 00:12:58,881 --> 00:13:03,201 Speaker 5: far out of that wet That ain't to me that 283 00:13:03,401 --> 00:13:06,161 Speaker 5: you know, you had to earn those stripes back in 284 00:13:06,201 --> 00:13:07,721 Speaker 5: the day, you had to work for them. You had 285 00:13:07,761 --> 00:13:09,521 Speaker 5: to show your lord, You had to earn your respect, 286 00:13:09,561 --> 00:13:12,361 Speaker 5: and you had to give respect to get respect. Money 287 00:13:12,401 --> 00:13:15,401 Speaker 5: money couldn't buy the colors. But unfortunately, in a lot 288 00:13:15,441 --> 00:13:18,841 Speaker 5: of cases today, you know, like you got the drip, 289 00:13:18,881 --> 00:13:21,321 Speaker 5: then you slide on an and will throw throw a 290 00:13:21,361 --> 00:13:22,681 Speaker 5: cut on you and you're good. 291 00:13:22,961 --> 00:13:31,441 Speaker 4: Mm hmm hmm, yeah, yeah, that's uh. 292 00:13:31,201 --> 00:13:36,121 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know, I really I can understand 293 00:13:36,121 --> 00:13:38,361 Speaker 1: now there is a big difference to being who you 294 00:13:38,401 --> 00:13:41,681 Speaker 1: want to be and being who you are, you know, 295 00:13:41,721 --> 00:13:44,681 Speaker 1: And and and I can see with my fino, they're 296 00:13:44,681 --> 00:13:48,081 Speaker 1: just there in their space. They see that I'm being me, 297 00:13:48,281 --> 00:13:50,961 Speaker 1: that I am genuinely being myself and what they're they're 298 00:13:51,001 --> 00:13:53,201 Speaker 1: happy for me, you know, brother, they're happy for me. 299 00:13:54,481 --> 00:13:54,641 Speaker 4: Yeah. 300 00:13:55,361 --> 00:13:59,081 Speaker 1: It is a big time hardcore, hardcore gangsters. And they're 301 00:13:59,121 --> 00:14:01,761 Speaker 1: happy for me, brother, because they've seen me being my 302 00:14:01,881 --> 00:14:02,761 Speaker 1: authentic self. 303 00:14:04,161 --> 00:14:06,641 Speaker 5: And and I know, and that's the thing too. You 304 00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:09,201 Speaker 5: couldn't hit, you can't hide. You said you left the 305 00:14:09,241 --> 00:14:12,241 Speaker 5: club because you wanted to follow in God's word, and 306 00:14:12,281 --> 00:14:13,001 Speaker 5: look what you're doing. 307 00:14:13,321 --> 00:14:14,121 Speaker 4: So they see that. 308 00:14:14,241 --> 00:14:16,081 Speaker 5: They know that you haven't just done it because you 309 00:14:16,081 --> 00:14:18,361 Speaker 5: were scared or wanted to bail out or find another 310 00:14:18,401 --> 00:14:22,281 Speaker 5: direction or go to another patch, nothing like that. What 311 00:14:22,321 --> 00:14:24,681 Speaker 5: you said is what you were doing and is exactly 312 00:14:24,761 --> 00:14:26,521 Speaker 5: word for word who you are today. 313 00:14:26,281 --> 00:14:28,641 Speaker 4: And what you represent. So how could you not respect that? 314 00:14:30,081 --> 00:14:31,281 Speaker 2: Yes? Brother, that's it. 315 00:14:31,561 --> 00:14:32,561 Speaker 4: That's that's honorable. 316 00:14:32,761 --> 00:14:35,161 Speaker 2: I think you for for wording it like that. Yeah, 317 00:14:35,201 --> 00:14:35,801 Speaker 2: because that's it. 318 00:14:37,401 --> 00:14:39,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that just goes to show how beautiful and 319 00:14:39,401 --> 00:14:43,241 Speaker 1: how really are how much money? How people have you 320 00:14:43,321 --> 00:14:45,801 Speaker 1: know to to be able to witness and notice that, 321 00:14:45,921 --> 00:14:49,161 Speaker 1: and and she she loved towards that and respect towards that. 322 00:14:49,161 --> 00:14:52,081 Speaker 1: This shows how, you know, how beautiful our people are 323 00:14:52,161 --> 00:14:54,761 Speaker 1: and how much money how people carry when they see 324 00:14:54,801 --> 00:14:57,921 Speaker 1: authenticity and in genuineness, they acknowledge it. 325 00:14:58,921 --> 00:15:05,281 Speaker 2: And that's a that's in all our people. Wow, it's 326 00:15:05,321 --> 00:15:06,601 Speaker 2: a real humbling experience. 327 00:15:07,681 --> 00:15:10,881 Speaker 5: I'm very humble just hearing you speak about this, because 328 00:15:10,921 --> 00:15:14,241 Speaker 5: you know it's it is. It is a tough, scary 329 00:15:14,321 --> 00:15:16,801 Speaker 5: path to make the decision to walk, and it can 330 00:15:16,841 --> 00:15:22,481 Speaker 5: go very fast either way. You know, you've you're obviously 331 00:15:22,561 --> 00:15:24,601 Speaker 5: always been a man of your word and here you 332 00:15:24,641 --> 00:15:26,721 Speaker 5: are today, you know, so how could you not respect that? 333 00:15:26,801 --> 00:15:32,801 Speaker 5: So full credit to your brother, And wow, that's beautiful. Yeah, 334 00:15:33,561 --> 00:15:38,161 Speaker 5: very very very humbling, very humbling. What are you doing today? 335 00:15:38,201 --> 00:15:40,721 Speaker 4: Waka? Because life is good for you. 336 00:15:41,121 --> 00:15:43,881 Speaker 1: It's definitely just the start of it's definitely just the 337 00:15:43,921 --> 00:15:46,521 Speaker 1: start of many great things. But you know, like I 338 00:15:46,521 --> 00:15:48,201 Speaker 1: see it, brother, I really love for the day we 339 00:15:48,241 --> 00:15:51,561 Speaker 1: are see unity amongst all our people. We are see 340 00:15:51,561 --> 00:15:54,681 Speaker 1: our people loving and working together instead of fighting each other. 341 00:15:55,361 --> 00:15:57,641 Speaker 5: What are your goals today, waka Are you working in 342 00:15:57,761 --> 00:16:00,241 Speaker 5: with the community and the young people, the next generation 343 00:16:00,361 --> 00:16:02,721 Speaker 5: that are looking at moving into gang life and that violence. 344 00:16:02,761 --> 00:16:05,681 Speaker 5: Are you trying to work with them to show them 345 00:16:05,681 --> 00:16:07,161 Speaker 5: a better path today? 346 00:16:07,201 --> 00:16:08,241 Speaker 4: Is that? Is that what you're doing? 347 00:16:08,841 --> 00:16:10,561 Speaker 1: At the stage of my life, I do, I do 348 00:16:10,721 --> 00:16:12,921 Speaker 1: walk out and what I talk amongst our funder and 349 00:16:13,001 --> 00:16:15,601 Speaker 1: amongst our people and our tunga taki, but I haven't 350 00:16:15,601 --> 00:16:17,561 Speaker 1: really been able to find a space where we could 351 00:16:17,601 --> 00:16:21,561 Speaker 1: work directly with them. But through through motivation culture or 352 00:16:21,641 --> 00:16:24,281 Speaker 1: we are we are creating a platform where we can. 353 00:16:24,401 --> 00:16:26,641 Speaker 1: So we are looking at bringing back the Activate program, 354 00:16:26,641 --> 00:16:31,481 Speaker 1: which is a program My brother has has ran their 355 00:16:31,521 --> 00:16:33,561 Speaker 1: program several times with that I'm gonna take you while 356 00:16:33,561 --> 00:16:35,401 Speaker 1: I was in prison, so I'm gonna talk he is 357 00:16:35,241 --> 00:16:38,241 Speaker 1: as our young generation, you know, our young tany and 358 00:16:38,281 --> 00:16:40,641 Speaker 1: things like that. So he has shared that space with 359 00:16:40,721 --> 00:16:44,201 Speaker 1: them and there's been huge positive impacts in their lives. 360 00:16:44,241 --> 00:16:46,761 Speaker 1: So you know, that is something I am passionate about 361 00:16:46,881 --> 00:16:52,201 Speaker 1: and bringing that their Activate program back into wide or again. 362 00:16:52,321 --> 00:16:52,561 Speaker 1: You know. 363 00:16:52,681 --> 00:16:53,881 Speaker 2: So, but at the stage we. 364 00:16:53,881 --> 00:16:58,241 Speaker 1: Are, we are working you know, through through our clothing label, 365 00:16:58,361 --> 00:17:02,321 Speaker 1: through our clothing label and that platform. And also so 366 00:17:02,481 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: my brother he's sees to owner of quite a few 367 00:17:05,361 --> 00:17:08,401 Speaker 1: positive movements that are going on, especially the motivation movement. 368 00:17:08,961 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 4: Let's talk about it. 369 00:17:09,761 --> 00:17:11,961 Speaker 5: Let's let's try, and let's let's try and let everybody 370 00:17:12,001 --> 00:17:13,721 Speaker 5: know so we can get some support around your brothers 371 00:17:13,721 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: over there. 372 00:17:14,041 --> 00:17:16,081 Speaker 4: I'd love for you to actually just share with us. 373 00:17:16,281 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, he's really the man to talk to. 374 00:17:18,561 --> 00:17:21,041 Speaker 1: But you know I believe that ad percent. So I 375 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,801 Speaker 1: supported one hundred percent. Yes, So motivation old ought to 376 00:17:24,801 --> 00:17:27,041 Speaker 1: be honest. It's a lifestyle. It's a it's a healthy 377 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:32,161 Speaker 1: way of living, a healthy way of thinking, eating, physically, spiritually, 378 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: you know. So we practiced in those areas. I just 379 00:17:34,481 --> 00:17:37,241 Speaker 1: come away from a retreat. I just come off for today. 380 00:17:37,921 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: I went on their retreat on Thursday. Beautiful people, Kate 381 00:17:42,441 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: and Ken maclay. They manage a health and wellness retreat 382 00:17:45,441 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: called Cape South, Beautiful Place. I was actually on there 383 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,281 Speaker 1: with with a woman this time around. It was it 384 00:17:52,321 --> 00:17:55,961 Speaker 1: was a it was a breathe easy retreat, learning how 385 00:17:56,001 --> 00:17:59,801 Speaker 1: to breathe and being present and practicing and yoga and 386 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: meditation and things like that. I would be honest, I 387 00:18:03,001 --> 00:18:04,441 Speaker 1: was a bit of ten to day that they've first 388 00:18:04,481 --> 00:18:08,441 Speaker 1: being around eights you know, eight married woman but very 389 00:18:08,481 --> 00:18:13,441 Speaker 1: lovely ladies. I found awesome comfortability around them. And yeah, 390 00:18:13,481 --> 00:18:17,041 Speaker 1: so you know, practicing and things like that, and and bro, 391 00:18:17,241 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, you would never have seen me doing something 392 00:18:19,241 --> 00:18:26,321 Speaker 1: like that three years ago, how to breathe on a retreat, 393 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: learning how to breathe properly and things like that, and 394 00:18:29,761 --> 00:18:31,121 Speaker 1: just physical training but. 395 00:18:31,921 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: Just stopping it, taking it in, he'd be like. 396 00:18:39,281 --> 00:18:41,801 Speaker 1: And also on their retreat, we ate nothing but plant 397 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:47,521 Speaker 1: based mills, no dearie, no meat. So just just really experiencing, 398 00:18:48,441 --> 00:18:51,801 Speaker 1: experiencing things, stepping out of my comfort zone, you know. 399 00:18:52,001 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: And what there they brother, we find growth, We find 400 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: growth stepping out of their comfort zone. So you know, 401 00:18:57,441 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm out here learning things, new things again so I 402 00:19:02,521 --> 00:19:05,401 Speaker 1: can so I can beat my best and performing best, 403 00:19:05,441 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: so I can give my best to all those around me, 404 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:13,441 Speaker 1: especially our my community and our people. And through motivation 405 00:19:13,481 --> 00:19:18,481 Speaker 1: alter at all. My brother, my brother really pushes that lifestyle. 406 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:18,761 Speaker 4: You know. 407 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:24,321 Speaker 1: He practices and meditation and healthy eating and physical training. 408 00:19:25,281 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, we call it the do you know some 409 00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: call it the funny top of farre. You know, your 410 00:19:30,761 --> 00:19:36,161 Speaker 1: your mind, your your physical, your spiritual, and your far note. 411 00:19:36,521 --> 00:19:39,721 Speaker 1: You know, when you can keep those things balanced, you can, 412 00:19:39,921 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, you can sort of what would you call it, 413 00:19:43,481 --> 00:19:44,561 Speaker 1: You could sort of walk out. 414 00:19:44,961 --> 00:19:48,521 Speaker 4: You can navigate life, navigate through. 415 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: Looking through life. 416 00:19:50,281 --> 00:19:52,001 Speaker 1: But a big one is our main ones as our 417 00:19:52,041 --> 00:19:57,681 Speaker 1: as our in our spirit. So mental, physical, and wide 418 00:19:57,761 --> 00:19:59,561 Speaker 1: work your spirit. You know when you can, when you 419 00:19:59,561 --> 00:20:02,801 Speaker 1: can balance those and keep those in check. Brother, it's yeah, 420 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:07,401 Speaker 1: you're more present and your more your but you will 421 00:20:07,441 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: go back to a motivation culture or it's a healthy lifestyle. Brother, 422 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: it's a way of living. That's what's trending now. You 423 00:20:12,201 --> 00:20:13,481 Speaker 1: know that's the trend now. 424 00:20:13,321 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: Brother, it's good. It's a good trend. You know. I 425 00:20:16,001 --> 00:20:16,321 Speaker 4: love it. 426 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,561 Speaker 5: I I get more high off going for a run, 427 00:20:19,681 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 5: you know, I get more high out of just smiling. 428 00:20:22,681 --> 00:20:24,321 Speaker 4: To me, it's it's. 429 00:20:24,041 --> 00:20:30,561 Speaker 5: It's I have withdrawals from my running addiction. I don't run, 430 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,401 Speaker 5: and I do and and like you know, like tomorrow, 431 00:20:33,441 --> 00:20:36,961 Speaker 5: I haven't how will I just I mean, you create. 432 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,521 Speaker 4: Your own opportunities, so I shouldn't say I haven't had 433 00:20:38,521 --> 00:20:39,041 Speaker 4: the opportunity. 434 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: But life's been a little bit, a little bit hectic 435 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 5: this last six seven days, and I you know, I 436 00:20:43,681 --> 00:20:46,201 Speaker 5: pretty well live in a semi from Monday to Friday 437 00:20:46,321 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 5: on the road, So not making excuses, but I'm feeling it. 438 00:20:49,481 --> 00:20:51,201 Speaker 5: And tomorrow we've had a lot of wet weather and 439 00:20:51,241 --> 00:20:53,601 Speaker 5: it's been stood down for the day. So I'm already 440 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,641 Speaker 5: in my head, right, I'm going to go and run 441 00:20:55,681 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 5: twenty maybe thirty k's tomorrow just because I need to. 442 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,721 Speaker 5: Why because it's good for my mental health. Why because 443 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,961 Speaker 5: it's going to push me. Why because it's going to hurt. 444 00:21:04,001 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: Why because I like it? 445 00:21:05,801 --> 00:21:09,681 Speaker 4: But I love it? Yeah? 446 00:21:10,801 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, enough for sure, you know. 447 00:21:12,201 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: But you know, those are those are the things we 448 00:21:14,241 --> 00:21:16,161 Speaker 1: do so we can be at our best day, brother, 449 00:21:16,241 --> 00:21:18,121 Speaker 1: so we can give our best to those around us. 450 00:21:18,441 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, we do things that sometimes we don't enjoy it, 451 00:21:20,961 --> 00:21:23,561 Speaker 1: but they've been a fit us in a positive way. 452 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: So you know that's that's those are the commitments we 453 00:21:26,681 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: make so we can give our best and be our bist. 454 00:21:29,561 --> 00:21:33,561 Speaker 5: That's my motto, the Clink Incorporated motto, be the best 455 00:21:33,761 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 5: you can be. 456 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,161 Speaker 4: And I tell my children the same thing. 457 00:21:36,201 --> 00:21:38,761 Speaker 5: And we've had this conversation with guests before, you know, 458 00:21:38,801 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: and I want to reiterate it because it's a very 459 00:21:41,001 --> 00:21:45,041 Speaker 5: powerful phrase that I think that people should really repeat 460 00:21:45,201 --> 00:21:48,561 Speaker 5: each day to themselves, be the best you can. And 461 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,001 Speaker 5: I say to my children, I don't want you to 462 00:21:50,041 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 5: go and win the race. I don't want you to 463 00:21:51,441 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: be the best. Don't be the best. You don't have 464 00:21:54,041 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 5: to be the greatest. Just be one percent better than yesterday. 465 00:21:58,041 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 5: And know within yourself that you've done that. 466 00:22:00,321 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: You've worked hard. You know you've put it in and 467 00:22:02,961 --> 00:22:03,801 Speaker 4: you get it out of it. 468 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: And when you look in the mirror, you can smile 469 00:22:05,561 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: and feel proud within your heart and yourself and know, 470 00:22:08,441 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: I did push that little bit further today, or I 471 00:22:10,721 --> 00:22:12,761 Speaker 5: did go that extra mile, or I did write that 472 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 5: extra you know paragraph, I did listen for that little 473 00:22:16,441 --> 00:22:18,281 Speaker 5: bit longer in my concentration span. 474 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:19,441 Speaker 4: You know I did. 475 00:22:19,521 --> 00:22:22,721 Speaker 5: Something kind for somebody today. It's a one percent difference. 476 00:22:23,001 --> 00:22:24,481 Speaker 5: The end of the week, the end of the month, 477 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,161 Speaker 5: they stack up, and then we see a change. We 478 00:22:28,281 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: start to actually notice how much that one percent grows 479 00:22:33,321 --> 00:22:35,561 Speaker 5: into a huge number of difference. 480 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: I love the brother, You're the man. You're the man, 481 00:22:38,441 --> 00:22:40,321 Speaker 2: My brother, God. 482 00:22:43,521 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: It is it is, you know, And no one's no 483 00:22:46,761 --> 00:22:49,121 Speaker 5: one's here to be perfect, like we're not perfect. 484 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,041 Speaker 4: It's just not in our DNA. What's perfect? Who's perfect? 485 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,801 Speaker 5: I've never seen perfect, have you? 486 00:22:55,801 --> 00:22:56,041 Speaker 4: You know? 487 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 5: And God to God will even say within the Bible 488 00:22:58,521 --> 00:22:59,441 Speaker 5: there's no perfection. 489 00:23:01,041 --> 00:23:04,601 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I've learned. You know that I'm 490 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: not perfet but he who I follow is perfect. 491 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: Brother. There you go, yeah, you know. 492 00:23:11,561 --> 00:23:14,481 Speaker 2: So you know I'm my brother. You know I'm a Christian. 493 00:23:14,521 --> 00:23:17,521 Speaker 1: You know I believe Jesus is the Way, the Truth, 494 00:23:17,561 --> 00:23:19,201 Speaker 1: and the life, and that he come here to die 495 00:23:19,241 --> 00:23:21,361 Speaker 1: for my son's brother. So you know, I follow him 496 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,321 Speaker 1: and I believe one hundred percent that he's perfect. You 497 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: come here and love the perfect, perfect life, brother, and 498 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: that's why I follow. 499 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: What are your goals? Brother, Where's see himself in? 500 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: Give me three months, nine months, and eight months. I 501 00:23:35,281 --> 00:23:36,721 Speaker 5: want three different goals. 502 00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:39,321 Speaker 1: To be honest, my brother, I take day at a time. 503 00:23:39,481 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: I do take I knew you were going to say that. 504 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: You said that earlier. 505 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,441 Speaker 2: I take there at a time. 506 00:23:45,481 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Brother, But like I said, I live for for the daily. 507 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,241 Speaker 1: I see unity amongst our people. So that's a huge 508 00:23:52,281 --> 00:23:55,001 Speaker 1: go on in something I you know, I know it's 509 00:23:55,041 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: going to happen. Brother, So I'm just going to do 510 00:23:57,241 --> 00:24:01,121 Speaker 1: my best to play my partner that. Yeah, that's all 511 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: of my my big my big one to be honest brother. Yeah, 512 00:24:07,721 --> 00:24:09,881 Speaker 1: just to push motivation out to the wild, to grow 513 00:24:09,921 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Motivation Ald churt All brother, I really want to push 514 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,721 Speaker 1: that out to the world. Like I said, I believe 515 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: in my brother's vision and I supported one hundred percent. 516 00:24:17,961 --> 00:24:19,441 Speaker 1: So I really want to take it to the world, 517 00:24:19,561 --> 00:24:21,921 Speaker 1: take our clothing label out to the world. I want 518 00:24:22,001 --> 00:24:25,041 Speaker 1: everyone around the world we're in Motivation brother, Motivated Merch 519 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,801 Speaker 1: to grow our businesses and you but the big desires 520 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,561 Speaker 1: to see our people living in unity. 521 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 4: Where can our our listeners go and find you? I 522 00:24:34,681 --> 00:24:35,441 Speaker 4: mean I'll put a link. 523 00:24:35,481 --> 00:24:38,641 Speaker 5: So for guys that aren't following the Clink podcast on Instagram, 524 00:24:38,681 --> 00:24:40,561 Speaker 5: make sure you get over because I will put Wuckers 525 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: links in there and you can tap on when we 526 00:24:43,481 --> 00:24:45,961 Speaker 5: release this wonderful. 527 00:24:45,521 --> 00:24:46,401 Speaker 4: Story of redemption. 528 00:24:46,561 --> 00:24:49,841 Speaker 5: But for for everybody out there, tell us where can 529 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,521 Speaker 5: we find you and your brother's links? 530 00:24:51,921 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: What do we do? 531 00:24:53,001 --> 00:24:53,161 Speaker 2: Well? 532 00:24:53,201 --> 00:24:55,561 Speaker 1: If you can follow us on Motivation old at All 533 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,321 Speaker 1: our Facebook page. Through there you can find a link 534 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: to our website Motivated Merch and with Motivation Altered All, 535 00:25:02,281 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: We're Motivation ald Turtles winning were all winning because through that, 536 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,081 Speaker 1: through through the proceedings of our businesses, we just want 537 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: to push it all back into our community and to 538 00:25:11,961 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: our people. 539 00:25:13,961 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: You guys are predominantly self funded. 540 00:25:16,961 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 5: You don't get a lot of support and funding, do 541 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,241 Speaker 5: you from government bodies or structural sort of organizations. 542 00:25:24,321 --> 00:25:25,801 Speaker 4: You guys genuinely over there. 543 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,641 Speaker 5: And you're not the first men that I have had 544 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,681 Speaker 5: this conversation with. There's a lot of brothers out there 545 00:25:31,721 --> 00:25:33,761 Speaker 5: I know that are doing it, and a lot of 546 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: women as well, doing wonderful things in New Zealand. But 547 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 5: funding is always a massive problem. And you guys just 548 00:25:41,041 --> 00:25:44,321 Speaker 5: knuckle down and really make it work. And I've got 549 00:25:44,321 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: to give credit to you as you do because no 550 00:25:46,481 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: one's putting money in your pockets and you're not getting 551 00:25:48,441 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 5: it from any government you know, funding or anything of that. 552 00:25:51,441 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 5: You guys genuinely invest in your beliefs and your all 553 00:25:55,241 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 5: your hard work through your own fundraising. 554 00:25:57,921 --> 00:25:58,121 Speaker 2: Yeah. 555 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,801 Speaker 1: Well so my brother he does his best to excess 556 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: fundings and support, but then you know, those and control 557 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: of that get very you know, very difficult for that 558 00:26:07,681 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: now they make it very difficult. It's almost like they 559 00:26:09,761 --> 00:26:12,041 Speaker 1: don't want to get caught up and the game side 560 00:26:12,041 --> 00:26:13,761 Speaker 1: of things and things like that, just maybe the look 561 00:26:13,801 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: or the image. But you know what what we aiming 562 00:26:16,761 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: to do is genuinely we just want the best for 563 00:26:19,761 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: our people. You know, we really want to jail prevention 564 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,561 Speaker 1: for our for our youth. We want to you know, 565 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: prevent them from going to jail. We want to do 566 00:26:26,481 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: our best to provide them with the tools to become 567 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,241 Speaker 1: the best they can be, you know, to to bring 568 00:26:31,281 --> 00:26:35,521 Speaker 1: out that that's greatness that's. 569 00:26:35,321 --> 00:26:36,561 Speaker 2: Already inside that person. 570 00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, we want to we want to do our 571 00:26:38,481 --> 00:26:40,441 Speaker 1: best to enhance and bring that out, you know, because 572 00:26:40,441 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: it's naturally and everyone. 573 00:26:44,761 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it is sort of. 574 00:26:46,321 --> 00:26:48,401 Speaker 1: They do make it difficult for us to access those 575 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: support and those fundings and things like that, and you 576 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,481 Speaker 1: know where we're I don't condone and and and fast 577 00:26:56,561 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: cash and things like that. You know, we're we're out 578 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,041 Speaker 1: here doing it legitly, you know, and we live in 579 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: the process and that you know, we're doing things legit. 580 00:27:03,921 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: We're not We're not out here to try and make 581 00:27:05,481 --> 00:27:07,121 Speaker 1: a quick buck or get fast. 582 00:27:06,921 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: Or rich, you know what I mean. That's yeah, that's 583 00:27:10,521 --> 00:27:12,361 Speaker 2: stop our seeing our funder and. 584 00:27:12,281 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: Our people comfortable, yeah, and safe and being able to 585 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,321 Speaker 1: enjoy life and be their self. 586 00:27:21,761 --> 00:27:23,721 Speaker 4: Be the best you can be. You know what, I 587 00:27:24,041 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 4: really want to ear everybody out there, or you can. 588 00:27:28,321 --> 00:27:30,001 Speaker 4: You can use that motto. I'll let you use that 589 00:27:30,041 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: one as well, whenever you want. Just take it, brother, 590 00:27:32,721 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 4: put it out there to the world. 591 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,001 Speaker 5: I do want to say that, and I would love 592 00:27:37,041 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 5: all our listeners here to please take a moment and 593 00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:40,961 Speaker 5: go over and. 594 00:27:40,921 --> 00:27:44,521 Speaker 4: Check out Locker and his Brother's pages. 595 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,001 Speaker 5: Because the biggest support the more they're able to give back. 596 00:27:48,041 --> 00:27:49,321 Speaker 4: And that's the reality of it. 597 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 5: You know, they are giving back and they are truly 598 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 5: trying to make change. And with the supportive community and 599 00:27:54,921 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 5: other like minded people or just somebody out there that 600 00:27:57,481 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 5: may want to get involved and see a change and 601 00:28:00,041 --> 00:28:02,881 Speaker 5: help that can afford to do so, get in contact 602 00:28:02,921 --> 00:28:05,761 Speaker 5: with these men. These men are truly out there doing 603 00:28:05,801 --> 00:28:08,961 Speaker 5: this and I look, I love it. I love anybody 604 00:28:08,961 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 5: that's out there putting it in it and. 605 00:28:10,561 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: Truly doing it from the heart. To me. 606 00:28:12,721 --> 00:28:14,721 Speaker 5: You know, there's so many phonies out there and ticking 607 00:28:14,801 --> 00:28:16,881 Speaker 5: boxes and everybody's out there wearing suits, but. 608 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 4: They're all they're all. 609 00:28:18,321 --> 00:28:21,281 Speaker 5: They've all got skeletons underneath those suits, that mate, are 610 00:28:21,321 --> 00:28:24,081 Speaker 5: all just giggling inside, rubbing their hands together, going, ah, 611 00:28:24,241 --> 00:28:26,041 Speaker 5: more money, more money, more money. You know, they're not 612 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,001 Speaker 5: truly doing what they are intentionally meant to be doing so. 613 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: And that's why we're not seeing changes because you know, 614 00:28:32,441 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: we got the wrong people in those places. You know, 615 00:28:35,441 --> 00:28:38,601 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say the wrong people, but obviously obviously, yeah, 616 00:28:38,641 --> 00:28:42,041 Speaker 1: there's no changes. So you know, let us there on 617 00:28:42,081 --> 00:28:43,881 Speaker 1: the ground get it. Then do the money, you know, 618 00:28:44,041 --> 00:28:49,281 Speaker 1: so we can start to see real positive changes. And yeah, brother, 619 00:28:50,281 --> 00:28:51,841 Speaker 1: the thing is, people. 620 00:28:51,561 --> 00:28:53,761 Speaker 5: Have this conversation that that's right, and we've lived it. 621 00:28:53,801 --> 00:28:56,241 Speaker 5: And this is my biggest thing. Lived experience is more 622 00:28:56,321 --> 00:29:01,321 Speaker 5: valuable than purple even want to admit. You know, let 623 00:29:01,441 --> 00:29:04,001 Speaker 5: us that have lived it get involved. Don't don't put 624 00:29:04,001 --> 00:29:06,801 Speaker 5: these barriers up and tell us, oh, you know that. Yeah, 625 00:29:06,841 --> 00:29:09,881 Speaker 5: thanks for your story, but unfortunately we just can't because 626 00:29:09,881 --> 00:29:13,201 Speaker 5: of you know, policies, procedures, guidelines. Don't give me your 627 00:29:13,241 --> 00:29:16,721 Speaker 5: bureaucratic crap, honestly, because at the end of the day, 628 00:29:16,961 --> 00:29:18,481 Speaker 5: we are the ones that are going to be able 629 00:29:18,481 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 5: to step into that space and connect with these people 630 00:29:20,801 --> 00:29:23,041 Speaker 5: on the level that we know that we've lived. 631 00:29:23,681 --> 00:29:26,761 Speaker 4: You know, this is something that we live and breathe. 632 00:29:26,761 --> 00:29:28,681 Speaker 5: It is who we are, it's in our DNA, and 633 00:29:28,801 --> 00:29:33,441 Speaker 5: we are able to give back through that exact passage. 634 00:29:33,761 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 5: And it's a passage of righteousness, because they are not 635 00:29:36,001 --> 00:29:38,521 Speaker 5: going to accept you if you don't know, or if 636 00:29:38,561 --> 00:29:41,321 Speaker 5: you haven't been there. So give us, give us a break, 637 00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:43,681 Speaker 5: whether it's New Zealand or Australia. Let us with lived 638 00:29:43,721 --> 00:29:48,041 Speaker 5: experience give back because we can make a difference. And 639 00:29:48,081 --> 00:29:51,361 Speaker 5: I truly believe this the moment that they allow us 640 00:29:51,921 --> 00:29:53,961 Speaker 5: in and I mean us as in a broad spectrum 641 00:29:53,961 --> 00:29:56,641 Speaker 5: of men and women that have powerful lived experience that 642 00:29:56,761 --> 00:29:59,921 Speaker 5: can make change, that have proven to make change, give 643 00:30:00,001 --> 00:30:02,521 Speaker 5: back to those that need our help, because you know what, 644 00:30:02,881 --> 00:30:03,961 Speaker 5: they will listen to us. 645 00:30:04,361 --> 00:30:06,041 Speaker 4: They're not going to listen and to them. 646 00:30:06,361 --> 00:30:09,721 Speaker 1: You know, it really is you know, you know sometimes 647 00:30:09,761 --> 00:30:13,441 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's not the message, it's who's 648 00:30:13,481 --> 00:30:18,881 Speaker 1: giving the message. You got those young ones there, you know, 649 00:30:19,041 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: you've got these people saying the right things, but they 650 00:30:21,481 --> 00:30:23,201 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it from their person there. They 651 00:30:23,201 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: want to hear it from someone who they who they 652 00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:27,881 Speaker 1: look up to or who they see actually walking, you know, 653 00:30:28,001 --> 00:30:31,561 Speaker 1: walking their good stuff and living a healthy lifestyle. And 654 00:30:31,801 --> 00:30:33,401 Speaker 1: it's someone they look up to, that's you they want 655 00:30:33,401 --> 00:30:34,761 Speaker 1: to hear it from. They don't want to hear it 656 00:30:34,761 --> 00:30:37,161 Speaker 1: from someone in a suit debt as reading it off 657 00:30:37,201 --> 00:30:41,201 Speaker 1: a book. True, not that I'm not that I'm trying 658 00:30:41,241 --> 00:30:43,281 Speaker 1: to a brother, not that I'm trying to down talk 659 00:30:43,321 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: anyone on to sort of from my experience and how 660 00:30:46,321 --> 00:30:48,961 Speaker 1: I see it, Yeah, you get big, bigger and better 661 00:30:49,001 --> 00:30:51,121 Speaker 1: outcomes when you have the right people in their place 662 00:30:51,401 --> 00:30:52,961 Speaker 1: and that in the space. 663 00:30:54,081 --> 00:30:55,121 Speaker 4: I think it. 664 00:30:55,121 --> 00:30:58,361 Speaker 5: It's not about even talking down It's definitely not that 665 00:30:58,521 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 5: level where we're just trying to hit the nail on 666 00:31:00,481 --> 00:31:02,761 Speaker 5: the head with the realization. The realization is there is 667 00:31:02,921 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: change that can be made, but people need to to 668 00:31:05,481 --> 00:31:09,481 Speaker 5: help make that change. And until they accept completely, holy 669 00:31:09,561 --> 00:31:11,961 Speaker 5: and solely that we are able to connect and come 670 00:31:12,001 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 5: in with a certain way of making difference, then it 671 00:31:16,241 --> 00:31:20,681 Speaker 5: will never change. And unfortunately, we will continue to chip 672 00:31:20,721 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 5: away and we will continue to do our best, but 673 00:31:24,081 --> 00:31:26,801 Speaker 5: it will still never be enough. You know, whilst ever 674 00:31:26,841 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 5: we're being pulled back or you know, have an anchor 675 00:31:30,561 --> 00:31:31,921 Speaker 5: attached to our ankle. 676 00:31:31,681 --> 00:31:32,281 Speaker 4: So to speak. 677 00:31:32,361 --> 00:31:36,281 Speaker 5: So I just want to before we leave this afternoon, 678 00:31:36,321 --> 00:31:38,281 Speaker 5: I want to ask you, if there's somebody out there 679 00:31:38,321 --> 00:31:41,561 Speaker 5: that was Waka or thinking of being who Waka was 680 00:31:42,121 --> 00:31:45,321 Speaker 5: ten years ago, what advice would you give to that 681 00:31:45,361 --> 00:31:48,521 Speaker 5: person today? 682 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:50,761 Speaker 1: To be honest, brother, it will be good to know 683 00:31:50,801 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: your true self. Be proud and who you are. You know, 684 00:31:55,841 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: you don't need to You don't need to impress anyone. 685 00:31:58,521 --> 00:32:01,721 Speaker 1: Unpress yourself, be yourself, be proud on who you are. 686 00:32:02,801 --> 00:32:06,281 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's beautiful. 687 00:32:06,321 --> 00:32:06,561 Speaker 4: You know. 688 00:32:07,521 --> 00:32:09,761 Speaker 2: We all have a purpose. We all have a purpose. 689 00:32:10,761 --> 00:32:12,121 Speaker 2: But you get to know who you are. 690 00:32:13,121 --> 00:32:13,321 Speaker 5: You know. 691 00:32:15,481 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: I love you, love you. 692 00:32:19,161 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, love You don't need to follow the crowd or 693 00:32:21,281 --> 00:32:24,121 Speaker 1: be a part of what looks cool, you know, because 694 00:32:24,201 --> 00:32:25,641 Speaker 1: there's no one caller in yourself. 695 00:32:25,721 --> 00:32:26,041 Speaker 2: Really. 696 00:32:26,681 --> 00:32:29,161 Speaker 1: Yeah, just be proud of who you are, standing your money, 697 00:32:29,241 --> 00:32:31,921 Speaker 1: you know, standing who you are. We're all We're all. 698 00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:33,041 Speaker 1: We're all equal. 699 00:32:33,601 --> 00:32:36,401 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are. We are at the end of the day, mate, 700 00:32:36,441 --> 00:32:37,321 Speaker 4: we all bleed red. 701 00:32:38,721 --> 00:32:42,161 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's a real reality, isn't it. 702 00:32:42,241 --> 00:32:44,321 Speaker 2: We are And the world is great to you. 703 00:32:44,601 --> 00:32:48,761 Speaker 4: It isn't that beautiful? 704 00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 5: It is it is, and each and every one of 705 00:32:51,281 --> 00:32:53,521 Speaker 5: us brings so much to the table, except many of 706 00:32:53,561 --> 00:32:56,841 Speaker 5: us don't understand our potential yet and understand what we 707 00:32:56,881 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 5: can bring to the table. 708 00:32:58,721 --> 00:33:00,961 Speaker 4: Look, I just want to say to you, firstly, thank 709 00:33:01,001 --> 00:33:02,361 Speaker 4: you for taking the time today. 710 00:33:02,401 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: I know that you have had a massive week and 711 00:33:04,681 --> 00:33:06,881 Speaker 5: a week and then getting here and making this happen. 712 00:33:06,961 --> 00:33:10,601 Speaker 5: Your commitment, it's it's it's a really, it's an honor. 713 00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:15,521 Speaker 5: You're an absolutely beautiful man, very humble. And please, if 714 00:33:15,521 --> 00:33:17,721 Speaker 5: we can in any way, shape or form assist you, 715 00:33:17,721 --> 00:33:20,441 Speaker 5: your brother or anybody that you're connected with, then our 716 00:33:20,481 --> 00:33:22,801 Speaker 5: door is open and our platform will always be here 717 00:33:22,841 --> 00:33:23,361 Speaker 5: to support. 718 00:33:23,481 --> 00:33:27,361 Speaker 4: So walk up. I would love to stay in contact. 719 00:33:28,361 --> 00:33:30,761 Speaker 5: You're welcome back at any time when things sort of 720 00:33:31,041 --> 00:33:33,681 Speaker 5: start to progress if you need a platform. Door is 721 00:33:33,681 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 5: always open, brother, And from me to you and on 722 00:33:36,561 --> 00:33:41,401 Speaker 5: behalf of everybody at the clink, thank you, thank you brother. 723 00:33:41,481 --> 00:33:44,121 Speaker 1: Thank you for allowing me with this opportunity to share. 724 00:33:44,241 --> 00:33:47,601 Speaker 1: But some called it all to share it, but on 725 00:33:47,681 --> 00:33:49,841 Speaker 1: my junior and my experiences. You know, we all got 726 00:33:49,881 --> 00:33:52,361 Speaker 1: a junior and we all got an awesome experience in story, 727 00:33:53,001 --> 00:33:55,881 Speaker 1: and thank you for giving me that opportunity to share mine. 728 00:33:56,921 --> 00:33:58,601 Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope you know that in some way 729 00:33:58,641 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: that it might touch a heart or it might you know, 730 00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:06,161 Speaker 1: help someone because you know, yeah, that's what that's what 731 00:34:06,201 --> 00:34:06,801 Speaker 1: it's all about. 732 00:34:06,801 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: For me, You've been able to help in any way 733 00:34:09,001 --> 00:34:09,321 Speaker 2: I can. 734 00:34:11,081 --> 00:34:13,641 Speaker 5: God bless you brother. And there you have it, everybody. 735 00:34:14,001 --> 00:34:17,161 Speaker 5: Another fantastic episode of the Clink. Thank you all for 736 00:34:17,201 --> 00:34:20,281 Speaker 5: hanging in there and once again turning up downloading the 737 00:34:20,321 --> 00:34:22,521 Speaker 5: Clink and hearing another amazing. 738 00:34:22,081 --> 00:34:24,881 Speaker 4: Guest share their story of redemption. 739 00:34:25,601 --> 00:34:28,961 Speaker 5: We have many more coming up till then, guys, be safe, 740 00:34:29,041 --> 00:34:30,041 Speaker 5: be the best you can be. 741 00:34:30,801 --> 00:34:32,241 Speaker 4: From me, thank you. 742 00:34:34,441 --> 00:34:37,801 Speaker 3: For the record. Don't try and make you uncomfortable for 743 00:34:37,921 --> 00:34:39,881 Speaker 3: the record. You ain't trying world downer stuff. 744 00:34:39,681 --> 00:34:41,961 Speaker 4: For your for the record. 745 00:34:41,841 --> 00:34:44,961 Speaker 3: Lab on me going hard the way for the record. 746 00:34:45,081 --> 00:34:48,321 Speaker 3: Ain't trying to link, No trying to wish. 747 00:34:47,601 --> 00:34:54,241 Speaker 4: For the reed, for the record, for the record, for 748 00:34:54,321 --> 00:34:58,041 Speaker 4: the read, for the reged, for the regged,