WEBVTT - Why Albo buckled to Trump’s biggest beef

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<v Speaker 1>From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday, July twenty five, twenty twenty five. Australian women

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<v Speaker 1>at the Australian dot com. Do a U a coincidence,

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<v Speaker 1>not a capitulation. That's the Albanese government's explanation for suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>dropping a twenty year ban on American beef. They say

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing to do with the fact that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was demanding access for American farmers and now that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration is claiming victory today, will it help our cause?

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<v Speaker 1>When there's a florry of government staff visiting journalists in

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<v Speaker 1>the press gallery in Canberra something's going on. When that

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<v Speaker 1>florry is happening before dawn, you know it's big this time.

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<v Speaker 1>What the staffers and politicians were doing on level two

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<v Speaker 1>of the Senate Wing was announcing big news on beef imports.

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<v Speaker 1>After a twenty year ban, Australia was about to drop

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<v Speaker 1>bio security restrictions on American slaughtered beef being imported to

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<v Speaker 1>Australia for sale because they said a rigorous biosecurity study

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<v Speaker 1>says actually it's safe.

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<v Speaker 2>On paper, this looks like it's pretty big capetulation to

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<v Speaker 2>one of Donald Trump's key demands when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>Australian treat that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Ferguson, our Camber Bureau Chief.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's clear that the Albanese government was very ready

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<v Speaker 2>to put out its lines and to make it seem

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<v Speaker 2>as much as possible that this has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with Donald Trump. So we had the Agriculture Minister, Julie

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<v Speaker 2>Collins put out a very early morning statement. We even

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<v Speaker 2>had government staffers going through the offices as early as

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<v Speaker 2>possible to make sure the lines were correct, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we had the minister herself stand up and the Trade

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Don Farrell stand up in the press gallery to

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<v Speaker 2>say this was a long term, ten year process, this

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<v Speaker 2>was all about science. We're just announcing it now. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it happens to be Donald Trump's biggest gripe about Australia

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to trade. All well, never mind that.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Trump Beck in April, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Won't take any of our beef. They don't want it

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't want it to affect their farmers. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I don't blame them, but we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing right now starting about midnight tonight, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, the government is very very stringent from

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<v Speaker 2>the top down that this has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>negotiations on trade. However, I think it's fair to say

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<v Speaker 2>that it's one of the great coincidences of Australian politics

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<v Speaker 2>in recent years that a study saying we should let

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<v Speaker 2>American import more beef happens to be released now. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think the joke at the moment is

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<v Speaker 2>is there a secret, ten year, rigorous process on the

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<v Speaker 2>PBS or steel or aluminium that we're about to see drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, Trump's own Agriculture Secretary, Brooke L. Rowlands immediately put

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<v Speaker 1>out a triumphal statement We've used an AI voice to

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<v Speaker 1>read it for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Make agriculture great again. Trade wins. President Trump secures greater

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<v Speaker 4>agriculture market access to Australia for American beef. American farmers

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<v Speaker 4>in Rand produce the safest, healthiest beef in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>It's absurd that non scientific trade barriers prevented our beef

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<v Speaker 4>from being sold to consumers in Australia for the last

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<v Speaker 4>twenty years. Gone are the days of putting American farmers

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<v Speaker 4>on the sidelines. This is yet another example of the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of market access the President negotiates to bring America

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<v Speaker 4>into a new golden age of prosperity.

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<v Speaker 1>So why did we have a ban on American beef anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Mad cow disease. In nineteen eighty six, a British farmer

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<v Speaker 1>noticed a couple of his cows were behaving strangely, dazed

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<v Speaker 1>and uncoordinated. An autopsy confirmed they'd been infected with bovine

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<v Speaker 1>spongeiform encephilopathy or BSE. It's an infectious protein that targets

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<v Speaker 1>the brain, making it look spongy under a microscope, hence

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<v Speaker 1>the name.

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<v Speaker 5>Some scientists believe that it breaks some of the laws

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<v Speaker 5>of nature as we know them, and thus maybe a

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<v Speaker 5>novel form of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Symptoms of BSE, also known as mad cow disease, can

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<v Speaker 1>appear several years after infection, but once they do, death

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<v Speaker 1>quickly follows. Those initial cases sparked a decade long disaster

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<v Speaker 1>with global ramifications.

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<v Speaker 2>An opinion poll yesterday found that a quarter of households

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<v Speaker 2>had dropped beef from the family menu. Over half a

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<v Speaker 2>million cows aged over thirty months have been cold since May.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a devastating indictment of British government, probably one

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<v Speaker 4>of the worst examples of British misgovernment since the war.

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<v Speaker 1>It spread through thousands of herds because livestock eight feed

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<v Speaker 1>made from the ground up remains of infected cattle. Humans

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<v Speaker 1>can also contract mad cow by ingesting infected meat. It

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<v Speaker 1>presents as kreutzfeld Yakub disease, a horrendous rapid onset of

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<v Speaker 1>dementia and then death, untreatable, unincurable. It has cost the

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<v Speaker 1>Health Service over a billion pounds. The practice of using

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<v Speaker 1>cattle parts to feed livestock is now banned. For more

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<v Speaker 1>than two decades, Australia banned the import of fresh and

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<v Speaker 1>frozen beef from the US unless the life cycle of

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<v Speaker 1>the beasts could be traced all the way from birth

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<v Speaker 1>to slaughter house. But America has a huge and complex

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<v Speaker 1>supply chain, with animals coming in from Mexico and Canada

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<v Speaker 1>before being killed in the US and exported. The Americans

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<v Speaker 1>said Australia's demands for traceability were unreasonable. Australia's held the

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<v Speaker 1>line through several changes of government, but now Minister Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Collins says the US has strengthened control measures and tracing systems.

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<v Speaker 2>No what as I think difficult to process and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that's with the government seeing that this as all

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<v Speaker 2>completely coincidental, has nothing to do with tariffs. In June,

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<v Speaker 2>when this was put to the Prime Minister that these

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<v Speaker 2>kind of changes would happen, he said, no, we will

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<v Speaker 2>do nothing to compromise on biosecurity.

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<v Speaker 5>We have made it very clear to the United States

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<v Speaker 5>that we will not compromise on bio security. We will

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<v Speaker 5>not waken the measures that protect their farmers and producers

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<v Speaker 5>from the races of disas or contamination.

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<v Speaker 2>The government's line is we have done nothing to compromise

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<v Speaker 2>on biosecurity. We've just removed the biosecurity barriers and made

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<v Speaker 2>all these changes best on a ten year study. So

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<v Speaker 2>it gets to the heart of the trickery of language

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<v Speaker 2>that is being used here and is constantly being used

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<v Speaker 2>by the government when it comes to Donald Trump. They

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<v Speaker 2>do not like to talk about Donald Trump. They try

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<v Speaker 2>everything they can to avoid talking about Donald Trump unless

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<v Speaker 2>they can find a way to attack the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>by connecting them to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Prime.

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<v Speaker 2>Minister, for example, has know a kind of stated response

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<v Speaker 2>whenever he's asked anything about Donald Trump, which is, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to comment on everything the US President says.

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<v Speaker 2>If you would have believed that any prime minister would

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<v Speaker 2>have said that about Barack Obama, George Bush, Ronald Reagan,

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<v Speaker 2>LBJJFK all the way to Eisenhower and Roosevelt. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to comment on what the US President says.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it just shows the kind of world we're

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<v Speaker 2>living and both in terms of Albanesia and Trump, in

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<v Speaker 2>a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia desperately needs a deal on trade. Ever since Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump ripped up our free trade agreement and imposed a

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<v Speaker 1>blanket ten percent tariff which could soon rise to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>percent on everything we send to the US, plus a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent tariff on Australian steel and aluminium. America's pharmaceutical

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<v Speaker 1>industry wants to sell more drugs here, which would probably

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<v Speaker 1>mean higher prices for Australian patients on our pharmaceutic called

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<v Speaker 1>Benefit Scheme or PBS. The White House is threatening a

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred percent tariff on drugs manufactured in places like

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<v Speaker 1>Australia unless we relax the PBS rules. And Anthony Alberanezi

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<v Speaker 1>says he wants a meeting with Donald Trump, but Trump

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<v Speaker 1>keeps putting it off. Let's assume what seems will be

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<v Speaker 1>as Richard, which is that the Australian government has capitulated

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<v Speaker 1>to what the Americans want on beef as part of

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger improvement in their relationship or ensuring Australia gets

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<v Speaker 1>a good deal. Why not just be honest about that.

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<v Speaker 2>The obvious answer would be Claire, is that there has

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<v Speaker 2>been a ten year study and the coincidence is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not discount this because we are cynical at heart.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also possible that the government once again does

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<v Speaker 2>not want to look as if it's in a position

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<v Speaker 2>of weakness. You know, the government has really been putting

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<v Speaker 2>out the message over the past couple of weeks that

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<v Speaker 2>no compromise is going to get us as good as

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<v Speaker 2>a trading relationship as we had nearly twenty years ago

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<v Speaker 2>between John Howard and Dori Stubby Bush. That is there belief.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they don't want to compromise on the PBS.

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<v Speaker 2>The Albanezi government is following the presidents of the Morrison

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<v Speaker 2>government during Trump's first term, in which it actually took

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<v Speaker 2>them months to score a deal, but they got a

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<v Speaker 2>much better deal than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, Japan has one of the absolutely hop targets

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump when it comes to tariffs. I mean, you know, huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge tariffs. They have now done a deal. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a great deal, and the Prime Minister of Japan, who's

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<v Speaker 2>already lost a majority in the lower House and just

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<v Speaker 2>lost a majority in the Upper House, looks like he'll

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<v Speaker 2>resign because he's saying, oh, well, I got a trade

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<v Speaker 2>deal with Trump. I don't want to deal with this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is part of the Albaneza government doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to look weak when it comes to Trump. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to look weak, which you know is pretty smart

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<v Speaker 2>strategy in general, because we all know that Trump does

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<v Speaker 2>not respond well to weakness. He likes people who are

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<v Speaker 2>tough guys just like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, I can't Anthony Albanesi and Kevin Rudd get

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime at the White House. Which how focused do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the government is on actually getting a sit down

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<v Speaker 1>with the United States, an exemption on some tariffs and

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<v Speaker 1>some guarantees about UCUS.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the line from Anthony Alberanizi is that he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything he can. Kevin Rudd is the US ambassador in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>is doing everything he can. The Foreign Minister, Penny Wong's

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything she can do'n Farrell, the Trade Minister's doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything he can. But when you look at the facts,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that Kevin Rudd struggles to get much time

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<v Speaker 2>with the West wing of the White House. We know

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<v Speaker 2>that Anthony Albanesi is definitely not on top of Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>list for leaders that he needs to call. Considering he's

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<v Speaker 2>met with, you know, the Prime Minister of Ireland and

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<v Speaker 2>all our nations at the White House, and he's talked

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<v Speaker 2>to our G twenty partners, you know, from Starmer to

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<v Speaker 2>Maloney to Macron dozens of dozens of times. And considering

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<v Speaker 2>also the Prime Minister gets very agitated whenever he's asked,

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<v Speaker 2>when are you going to meet with Donald Trump. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got to remember at a recent international summit that JD

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<v Speaker 2>Vance was at, the Vice President Albinizi was asked, will

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<v Speaker 2>you meet with J.

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<v Speaker 1>D Vance?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, no, I meet leader to leader. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he goes to China and he meets with the

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<v Speaker 2>Shanghai Party boss, he meets with the Premier, he meets

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<v Speaker 2>with the chairman of the Chinese National People's Congress. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's clearly meeting other people who aren't just the leader.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has said he wants a good relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. Donald Trump has always been very positive about

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanezi whenever he's been askedying he's a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's clearly some warmth in the phone conversations that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had there. But it must be noted that many

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<v Speaker 2>leaders have gone into the Oval Office and the president

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<v Speaker 2>has been Donald Trump and done the Donald Trump performance.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at the Philippine President Marcos in the

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<v Speaker 2>Oval Office with Donald Trump and Donald Trump starts saying

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<v Speaker 2>that Obama is a villainous thug who's a trader.

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<v Speaker 3>Baracus said Obama is the ringleader Hillary Clinton was right

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<v Speaker 3>there with him, and so was Sleepy Joe Buden and

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<v Speaker 3>so with the rest of them, call me Clapper. The

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<v Speaker 3>whole group never has a thing like this happened in

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<v Speaker 3>the history of our country.

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<v Speaker 2>That will not be a comfortable position for Anthony Albineasi

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<v Speaker 2>to be and it is not one that he would enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one can speculate that he is not rushing

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<v Speaker 2>to experience that. Look, all the suggestions out of the

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<v Speaker 2>White House at the moment is still that of all

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<v Speaker 2>the countries that they like, we are at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the list. And there's no doubt that Australia meeting

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<v Speaker 2>America where it wants to be on beef is going

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<v Speaker 2>to help Anthony Albinezi in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>That was The Australian's Richard Ferguson. You can check out

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