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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sugar Mama's Fireplay. I am your host

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Speaker 1: financial planner Canna Campbell, and today we're going to drop

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Speaker 1: the whole financial planner chat and just talk you and

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Speaker 1: me about something deeply personal. Now. Back last month, you

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Speaker 1: may have seen on my Instagram accounts Sugar Mama TV

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Speaker 1: and Canna Campbell Official, I was doing my version of

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Speaker 1: seventy five Hard. And for those of you who are

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Speaker 1: not familiar with seventy five Hard, it's basically a habit

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Speaker 1: stacking challenge that really focuses on transformational growth and development physically, emotionally,

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Speaker 1: even spiritually, if you like. And I did my own

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Speaker 1: version of this, which I'm actually doing all over it

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Speaker 1: again because I got so much out of it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: within the habits, and my habits range from exercise to

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Speaker 1: journaling to reading, I included this particular course which I

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Speaker 1: have actually touched on before. It's called the Phoenix Program

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Speaker 1: and it's created by a guy called Jamie Ryder. And

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Speaker 1: I had previously commenced this course and gotten to the

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Speaker 1: thick of it. But I can hit hitting blocks. I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I just found parts of it really hard. So when

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Speaker 1: I started my version of seventy five hard I decided

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Speaker 1: to dedicate one of my habits to getting through this

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Speaker 1: course from start to finish, and so I literally went

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Speaker 1: back to square wright against that all over and I

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Speaker 1: actually got through the whole entire course. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about today, because this

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Speaker 1: particular personal growth and development course that I did by

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Speaker 1: Jamie Ryder, it was raw, it was incredibly real, and

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Speaker 1: it was at times confronting, but honestly it helped heal me.

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Speaker 1: What it made me do was become more powerful as

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Speaker 1: a person. It was incredibly cost effective. There was no fluff,

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Speaker 1: There was no like overpriced therapy sessions and coaching sessions

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Speaker 1: that would put even my budget at you know, breaking

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Speaker 1: point at this time. Just deep, soulful work that really

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Speaker 1: helped shift the way that I see myself, my patterns,

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Speaker 1: my sense of self worth, and my boundaries. So in

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Speaker 1: today's episode, I want to talk you through what I

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Speaker 1: went through, what this program entailed, and how it actually

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Speaker 1: impacted me, and why I think it's worth considering and

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Speaker 1: potentially investing in for yourself. If you are craving some

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Speaker 1: I guess more than surface level change, but you are

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Speaker 1: perhaps time poor on a budget, and like me, I

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Speaker 1: actually had a lot of trouble building trust with someone

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Speaker 1: and didn't have the physical or emotional energy to meet

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Speaker 1: someone new in new therapist, for example, explain everything and

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Speaker 1: also have to backtrack explain everything. So I guess if

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Speaker 1: you're on a budget and you need professional help, particularly

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Speaker 1: in an area of trauma, this could be something very,

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Speaker 1: very powerful and financially friendly. So let's get started and

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Speaker 1: let me open up and share with you as I become,

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Speaker 1: you know, really quite vulnerable with you this morning. Okay,

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Speaker 1: deep breaths. I have no idea how this episode is

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Speaker 1: going to come out, but I really hope you enjoy

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Speaker 1: it because I'm actually a little bit shy. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit nervous and sharing this with you. So first

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Speaker 1: of all, why did I take this course? So, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, I just I needed help. I was carrying

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Speaker 1: something that was very complicated I was really struggling with.

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Speaker 1: I felt really hurt. It was impacting my sleep, it

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Speaker 1: was at times triggering me and sending me to a

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Speaker 1: very dark place, and I was stuck. And yes, I

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Speaker 1: have done the professional therapy for overall eleven years. But

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Speaker 1: as I've shared with you, previously, my therapist retired, she

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Speaker 1: worked with me for eleven years, and my psychiatrist who

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Speaker 1: helps me with my ADHD and Tom together said, Canna,

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Speaker 1: you know you finish up with your therapists when she retired.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen anyone else. We were hoping you'd be okay,

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Speaker 1: you'd be okay to fly on your own, but you're not.

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Speaker 1: You need to keep working on this, and I desperately

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Speaker 1: didn't want to start all over again. I took me

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Speaker 1: with you know, the previous interest rate rises that we

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Speaker 1: So I said to Tom and my psychiatrist, I said,

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Speaker 1: and I came across this guy, Jamie Ryder on TikTok. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you want go and jump on his TikTok account.

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Speaker 1: But also he forces you to take ownership of a

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Speaker 1: and it was amazing. He is He's exactly as you

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Speaker 1: see him on TikTok. He's kind, he's nice, but also

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Speaker 1: he will hold you to account if he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he wants to see your patterns and he wants you

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Speaker 1: to change you. This is not about fixing other people,

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Speaker 1: is about you doing the work for yourself. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I found it very very empowering talking to him. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: after going through his programs with him and working out

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Speaker 1: what was the right one for me. I enrolled in

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix program. Now I did buy the more advanced,

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Speaker 1: more expensive version so I could have access to Jamie

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Speaker 1: if I got stuck. I didn't actually use it because

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Speaker 1: his courses was good enough for me to actually go

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Speaker 1: all the way through and it made sense and it

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Speaker 1: really worked. So let me quickly explain to you what

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix program really is actually all about. So it's

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Speaker 1: a online program. It's self paced, and it's videos. There's

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Speaker 1: some practical exercises, a little bit of journaling, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it focuses on I guess, rebirth and shedding those self

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Speaker 1: emotionally strong, obviously rising phoenix. And I invested it probably

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Speaker 1: about ten to twenty minutes each morning, you know, to

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Speaker 1: will point out by no means am I downgrading psychiatrists

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Speaker 1: and psychologists and therapist. This is something I think compliments it.

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Speaker 1: But he is a relationship coach and a certified neuralu

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Speaker 1: neurolinguistic practitioner and life coach, and it's you know, As

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Speaker 1: I said, it's videos his exercises. He explains everything, and

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Speaker 1: he shows you you know where you are, and he

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Speaker 1: makes you accountable as to know how you've contributed. But

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Speaker 1: he does in a very gentle, nurturing and empowering way.

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Speaker 1: So it was very different to what I had done

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Speaker 1: He also allowed me to finally discover my own sense

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Speaker 1: most powerful words I took out of this was the

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Speaker 1: word discernment, where you can actually stop and look at

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Speaker 1: it was insightful. I realized in doing this work, I

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Speaker 1: build a healthy, happiert life. I learned to let go

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Speaker 1: face those inner narratives that we've created from work, from childhood,

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Speaker 1: from relationships, and you know how to actually build a healthier,

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Speaker 1: You know, you could even almost I think, do a

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Speaker 1: much of an impact this has had for me. So,

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Speaker 1: even in an element of self destruction, can I recommend

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Speaker 1: going and exploring this course because it has been transformational

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Speaker 1: as it says, So who would I recommend this course for?

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Speaker 1: So anyone who's I said on a budget is time

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Speaker 1: if you were on your financial journey, doing this sooner

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Speaker 1: rather than later will actually serve you. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: this has actually added value to my own financial journey.

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Speaker 1: I have learned to let go of control, and not

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