WEBVTT - Twelve goals for 2025

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How Do They Afford That, The podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>peaks into the financial lives of everyday Australians. I'm Michael Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a writer and the co host of the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Fear and Greed business news. As always, I am with

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<v Speaker 1>Canna Campbell, financial planner, founder of sugar Mama TV, the

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<v Speaker 1>financial literacy platform covering YouTube and podcasts and books and

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram threads, TikTok and more. Hello, can a happy new Year.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so motivated. I have had a break, I've

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<v Speaker 2>recharged my batteries. I am ready to relaunch.

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<v Speaker 1>You look motivated. There is a buzz about you if

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<v Speaker 1>you casting around right because it is the new year,

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty twenty five. If you are not yet sure

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<v Speaker 1>what to do for your new year's resolution, we are

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<v Speaker 1>here to help because you what I would really like

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<v Speaker 1>would be to make this year the year that you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of take control of your money. Because we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>so much stuff, haven't we We've covered so many different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's never better time to start things than right away.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want a milestone, if you want a

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<v Speaker 1>time to do it, the start of the new year

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<v Speaker 1>perfect correctly. So today we are putting together twelve goals

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty five. Shall we jump into it?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that kindogram running all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, and look, these don't have to be your goals.

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<v Speaker 1>You can take and leave any of them depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what suits your own personal circumstances. But number one, make

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<v Speaker 1>a budget.

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<v Speaker 2>Make a budget, or if you already have a budget,

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<v Speaker 2>review your budget, which I should add you should be

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<v Speaker 2>doing every single month, reviewing it. But it is so

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<v Speaker 2>important that you have a budget and that it is

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<v Speaker 2>written down and you can easily access it to update it,

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<v Speaker 2>to check it, to see what other new expenses have

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<v Speaker 2>slipped on.

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<v Speaker 1>In New Year's is typically when I know I should

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<v Speaker 1>be doing it more regularly. But New Years is typically

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm kind of looking at my budget and because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit more downtime and you can sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and do it. For those who haven't got a

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<v Speaker 1>budget and perhaps hearing this podcast for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty seconds or less, can you tell us how

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<v Speaker 1>to actually sit down and do it. Is it about

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<v Speaker 1>just assessing what you're already spending and just writing it

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<v Speaker 1>down on paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, no, you can't do that in thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to do it, I think we need to

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<v Speaker 2>do a whole new session maybe on budgeting and cash flow.

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<v Speaker 2>But you need to go through your transactions. So look

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<v Speaker 2>print off if you need to, or have on a

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<v Speaker 2>separate screen your bank statements. You can actually see the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of what your life costs. You need a calculator,

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<v Speaker 2>you need a piece of pen and paper. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>recommend writing it down on paper before you go and

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<v Speaker 2>plug it into an Excel spreadshet or a budget tenplate.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can pretend that you spend this much on takeaways,

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<v Speaker 2>but your bank account and those transactions will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>the truth and reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Goal number two is to make twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>the year that you actually create a buffer in your budget, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of tied into what you just said

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<v Speaker 1>there about kind of almost stop lying to yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>stop kind of deceiving yourself more so about what you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually spending. Be realistic and go one step further and

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<v Speaker 1>build a buffer in.

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<v Speaker 2>Also with the rise and cost of living, expenses are

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<v Speaker 2>going up all the time, you know, particularly around for

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<v Speaker 2>example insurances, So round everything up so you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>margin of error. And what I say to people through

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<v Speaker 2>the Sugar Mama Budget and cash Flow Academy program is

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<v Speaker 2>round it up to the nearest five to ten one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars. So if it's eighty dollars, quarter one hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's seven dollars, caught ten dollars. But once you

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<v Speaker 2>go to one hundred dollars and more, add ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>on there. So it just keeps you in a very

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<v Speaker 2>safe playground when it comes to managing your cash flow

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not caught short.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, nearest five dollars, ten dollars, one hundred dollars or

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<v Speaker 1>above that ten percent okay, Because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>would just look at the budget and just go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what we've spent in the past, this

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what we will allow for in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>But the cost of everything just keeps going up, and

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<v Speaker 1>also things can catch you out, and it's better to

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<v Speaker 1>have that little buffer there exactly for peace of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Number three speaking a peace of mind, emergency money.

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<v Speaker 2>So your emergency money should be in a separate account,

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<v Speaker 2>and I recommend you nickname it our emergency money. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about just having emergency money, about having the

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<v Speaker 2>right amount of emergency money, I will say when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to your separate account, it is potentially, and speak

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<v Speaker 2>to your bank or mortgage work before you go and

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<v Speaker 2>do this, but have a look at having a redoor

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<v Speaker 2>facility or an offset account, so at least while that

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<v Speaker 2>emergency money is building up, it's helping you to save

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<v Speaker 2>on your interest. And this is so important when I

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<v Speaker 2>say to people when they say, well, how much emergency

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<v Speaker 2>money is the right amount, look at the reality of

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<v Speaker 2>your life and things that could happen and what they

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<v Speaker 2>would cost, and then pick three things that could happen

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<v Speaker 2>simultaneously that will impact your situation. So and I say

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<v Speaker 2>that because things often sometimes things happen in threes. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, only back in early December, we had a

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<v Speaker 2>electrical fire, our power for the day and so I

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<v Speaker 2>lost all days whether it works, I couldn't do any work.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my car broke down and it broke down

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<v Speaker 2>as I was driving trying to cross intersections, so it

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<v Speaker 2>had to be towed a long way away and then

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<v Speaker 2>huge expense to fix it. So that happened. Then also

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<v Speaker 2>washing machine broke and the air conditioning went, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, things happened. It's not don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>will only one thing happen at a time. You never know,

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<v Speaker 2>so be smart. You never regret having too much emergency

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<v Speaker 2>money and then having that offset account or redeal facility

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<v Speaker 2>can actually work to your financial advantage and saving money

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<v Speaker 2>in the main time. But it means you sleep while

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<v Speaker 2>at night.

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<v Speaker 1>I always struggle with the idea of what constitutes an emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>I did get a message this week from you about

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<v Speaker 2>a certain situation. Whether it was classified as coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>Money, yes, and it was. We established that I was

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<v Speaker 1>expecting a much more negative response than the one that

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<v Speaker 1>I got because our coffee machine diet and it's hardly

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a it's a very very first world problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And still it's part of your ritual and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually really really important, and you are right. We

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<v Speaker 1>did the sums. Then again, Shanna and I did the sums,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, hey, you do realize that if

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<v Speaker 1>we were to buy kind of these coffees every day

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<v Speaker 1>out we would be spending X amount and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a staggering sum compared to what it costs to do

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<v Speaker 1>it at home, once you've done the initial outlayer of

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<v Speaker 1>the machine. And so my message to you was, hey, cana.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you reckon a new coffee machine? That count as

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<v Speaker 1>an emergency for the emergency fund? And I was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>this all caps response, no, that's not an emergency something,

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<v Speaker 1>and the response came back, if you really love your coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, it probably is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's helping you, say money, But it's also a very

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful ritual I think having a coffee at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, Okay, So make twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>of the year set up your emergency fund because you

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<v Speaker 1>will sleep better at night having that there.

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<v Speaker 2>And also when things do go wrong, you don't fall

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<v Speaker 2>into a mess in a panic. Yes, a crappy week,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know I was able to have a moment

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<v Speaker 2>go thank goodness, we have su emergency money there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Number four, what have we got?

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<v Speaker 2>Pay down debt, So draw a line in the sand,

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<v Speaker 2>no more toxic debt. If you're relying on credit cards,

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<v Speaker 2>you're lying on buy an now, pay later to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>That is your red flag that you need to get

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<v Speaker 2>the monkey off your back. Pay those debts down and

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<v Speaker 2>take a break from using them, or don't use them

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And you you know, when it comes to debt,

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<v Speaker 2>rules are under thetter of general advice only is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>credit card debt, buy now, pay later, the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>have that toxic impact on your financial situation, and just

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<v Speaker 2>work through your list. And I have a strategy called

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<v Speaker 2>the hitless strategy where you it's not it could mean

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<v Speaker 2>that you paid a little bit more money in interest,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's more about the mindset and shooting into the

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<v Speaker 2>psychology of money.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called. It's called the hit list hit list.

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<v Speaker 2>We can do an episode if you're like, really only

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<v Speaker 2>hit list.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be open to this.

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<v Speaker 2>But you go through the smallest debt first, and you

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<v Speaker 2>build up momentum and work through. And yes it means

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<v Speaker 2>ignoring which interest rates have the highest interest rate, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's about building a sense of progress with it then

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<v Speaker 2>fuels you and motivates you to keep going. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>approached so many people out of huge amounts of debt,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, review it and then tracking it so

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<v Speaker 2>you can see it's actually working. But twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>say goodbye to toxic debt in your life. It is

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<v Speaker 2>financially and emotionally draining.

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<v Speaker 1>Number five on the list is to start paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to your superannuation. Now I know this is one that

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<v Speaker 1>you are very very passionate about and just start today,

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<v Speaker 1>because the earlier you can start paying attention to your superannuation,

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<v Speaker 1>the longer you have to build up the benefits well.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets monitored, gets made. So find out where your superannuation is.

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<v Speaker 2>Do a search just if you've got any old missing

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<v Speaker 2>superannuation accounts, which is very easily done online, and then

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<v Speaker 2>look at where it is invested. But don't just look

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<v Speaker 2>where it's invested. Make sure it's right for you. So

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<v Speaker 2>go once you've seen where it is. And a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people in this default balance fund or I actually

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<v Speaker 2>had someone message me to say that they did a

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<v Speaker 2>search and vand had been sitting in cash for the

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<v Speaker 2>last fifteen years horrified than they were so upset of

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<v Speaker 2>themselves they listened to your advice through your podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>went did this and now fixed it. I feel so

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<v Speaker 2>much better. But obviously she was. This person was kicking themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So make sure it's right for you. So once you

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<v Speaker 2>find out where it is, then go into a risk

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<v Speaker 2>profile and you know if you need to make some changes,

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<v Speaker 2>get advice because obviously there are consequences like capital gains

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<v Speaker 2>tax and by cell costs, brokerage and so forth, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's really important. And also whilst you're there, check that

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<v Speaker 2>your contributions have been going in and they've been going

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<v Speaker 2>on on time. In a previous episode, I shared about

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine that discovered her employee UH had

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<v Speaker 2>never been paying super and she missed out on about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five thousand dollars with SUPER contributions, which was devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>Ouch. And that's just in the contributions. That's not adding

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<v Speaker 1>up what that would have cost at retirement time, when

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the power of compound interests and

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<v Speaker 1>the power of having those investments working for you would

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<v Speaker 1>have seen it worth a lot a lot more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's worth also mentioning the fact that everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about here we have done episodes on these

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<v Speaker 1>ones individually in the past. So if you're a new

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<v Speaker 1>listener to the podcast, welcome first, but also have a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a scroll back through the past catalog, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have taken a deep dive in the past into say,

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<v Speaker 1>doing your risk profile and deciding where you should have

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<v Speaker 1>your money within your superannuation, what type of assets and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what the appropriate level of risk is for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got more information on all of these in

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<v Speaker 1>previous episodes. Today's really just this is putting together the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate list of goals to make this year the year

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<v Speaker 1>that you take back control of your money. One more

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<v Speaker 1>before we take a quick break though. Number six. Start

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<v Speaker 1>an investment portfolio. This is filled countless episodes on its own.

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<v Speaker 2>Now's the time to invest. I don't believe superannuation on

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<v Speaker 2>its own is going to be able to fund our

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<v Speaker 2>retirement or the retirement that we actually want. It is

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<v Speaker 2>important that you're investing as well. And obviously, you know

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<v Speaker 2>some people in certain age groups may you want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a bias towards super or bias towards investing, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is the year to start investing. If

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<v Speaker 2>you've been thinking about it and wanting to do it's

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<v Speaker 2>been on your list but never actually done it, or

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<v Speaker 2>you started it and just kind of drop the ball

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<v Speaker 2>on it, reconnect with it, get it going again. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I love the thousand dollars project because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can start with one thousand dollars and it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>You can watch it grow and you can think outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the square to how you're going to get more money,

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<v Speaker 2>and you start tracking that passive income and thinking about Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I now make two thousand dollars a year of my portfolio.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to contribute towards my retirement goals. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the sooner you can start investing, the better.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that like it is. That is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those ones that gets people genuinely excited because it is

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<v Speaker 1>working towards a different future, better future. Yeah, indeed, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the first six about twelve goals for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Let's take a quick break and come back

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<v Speaker 1>and get the next six. Cana. We are setting twelve

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<v Speaker 1>goals for twenty twenty five where you're just coming up

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<v Speaker 1>with ideas really here, and you can pick and choose

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that suit you and the ones that are

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate for you. Number seven, improve your financial literacy. Make

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five the year that you do that. And hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this podcast, it's probably already a

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<v Speaker 1>good start.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know. Creat a habit system. You know, have

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<v Speaker 2>a simple goal. You listen to one podcast a week

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<v Speaker 2>like this one or Sugar Mama's Fireplay, or you read

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<v Speaker 2>one book per month, or you watch a video on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube about investing, or you spend half an hour every

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<v Speaker 2>Monday morning going through the money Smart website, which is

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<v Speaker 2>created by Ask. There is so much free information out

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<v Speaker 2>there to help you, and great quality information to allow

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<v Speaker 2>you to make far better decisions with your money. And

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<v Speaker 2>I prove your financial wellbeing in seeing it in your

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<v Speaker 2>bank balance, but also internally as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one, isn't it, because it is something

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do at your own pace too, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it in a way that works for you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a podcast listener, there are a great

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts out there to listen to. If you like reading

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<v Speaker 1>books and kind of taking a deeper dive into things,

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<v Speaker 1>then go for that. And the money Smart website that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned is a fantastic resource for explaining terms in

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<v Speaker 1>really simple language and kind of helping to educate you.

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<v Speaker 1>And no one needs to know what you were researching.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great way of kind of filling some knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>gaps that you might not be comfortable admitting that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've done it. I've jumped on there and looked

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<v Speaker 1>up stuff. Oh okay, all right, that wasn't so hard

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Now that's number seven, number eight vitally important.

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<v Speaker 2>I will admit I need to do this. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a will, but it needs to be updated and I

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<v Speaker 2>need to make some changes. So you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to have a will in place. You may think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got nothing, you know, no assets, but that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the issue. Issues. You do have assets, you have superinnovation,

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<v Speaker 2>but also you may have some debts as well. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to be thinking about and you know, thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>what is the best for your family, for your loved ones,

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<v Speaker 2>and where do you want the wealth that you've established

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<v Speaker 2>so far. You've got items, You've got your belongings that

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<v Speaker 2>are valuable. So you have a will if you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>or make sure it's updated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's just one of those things that it's

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<v Speaker 1>an uncomfortable thing to do. But once you've done it, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good for a bit. And you do need to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of keep reviewing it and keep checking it every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then to make sure that it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Current, especially if your situation changes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, but just get it done in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>And include a charity in there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great idea, Thank you. I like that. While we

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<v Speaker 1>are reviewing things, Number nine is review your insurances.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, not just your general insurances, but your personal insurances

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so you know income protection, life and TPD,

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<v Speaker 2>trauma cover home and contents. You know, maybe if you

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<v Speaker 2>have an the best probably might have landlord insurance. Go

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<v Speaker 2>far and wide with this. And also I recommend when

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<v Speaker 2>you do that search for your superannuation accounts, which I

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<v Speaker 2>believe was number five, is to have a look at

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<v Speaker 2>what insurances might be attached to those old superannuation accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>I know when I was running my fincial planning practice,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd always come across an old superinhnuoation account for a

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<v Speaker 2>client and have like a five hundred thousand of a

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<v Speaker 2>life policy. They had no idea existed. So do your research,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, see what insurance policies attached to superannuation accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>Also might add accidental cover. I had completely forgotten that

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<v Speaker 2>when Rocker was a baby, I took out accidental cover

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<v Speaker 2>on him and it wasn't until I got something in

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<v Speaker 2>the mail saying that actually he had default because I

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<v Speaker 2>changed bank accounts and not updated. It was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, I completely forgot about that. So make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you take stock of what you have in place and

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<v Speaker 2>what you need and what you potentially don't need because

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<v Speaker 2>you're doubling up somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Number ten, there's one that you are very past because

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<v Speaker 1>you have talked about it a number of times, calling

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<v Speaker 1>up your utilities provider and asking for a better deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I do this every free WI February.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're and you're very satisfied when you do

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<v Speaker 1>it well.

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<v Speaker 2>I've shared previously, I have the numbers in my phone,

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<v Speaker 2>and in my phone, I will have also my account number,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's very easy to access the information to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure my phone call is very efficient, and I can

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<v Speaker 2>do it literally in the car obviously with two hands,

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<v Speaker 2>using bluetooth, responsible driving at all times, but asking for

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<v Speaker 2>a better deal. I do this with Foxtel. I do

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<v Speaker 2>this with our energy and gas bill everything. I leave

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<v Speaker 2>no stone unturned in It's amazing. If they think they

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<v Speaker 2>can lose you, we'll pull a rabbit out of a hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that great? And there is nothing more satisfying than

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like, hey, I've just saved money that I would

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<v Speaker 1>not have saved if I hadn't taken that step.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know this sounds really weird and odd coming

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<v Speaker 2>from a financial planner, but sometimes the smallert savings are

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<v Speaker 2>actually more satisfying than the big savings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know exactly clearly what you mean. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>then leads us very neatly into number eleven on our list.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we talk about kind of small savings. This is

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<v Speaker 1>at the other end, this can lead to some big, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big savings. We are calling up your bank.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and asking for a better deal with your home loan. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I will say be careful with this because if you

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<v Speaker 2>call your bank, they're obviously only going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>their bank products and you know, try and get you

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<v Speaker 2>one of their products, which is obviously their work for

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<v Speaker 2>the bank. That's their job. So if you get a

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<v Speaker 2>no from your bank, or you're not happy with the answer,

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to a mortgage broker, and experienced mortgage broker

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<v Speaker 2>that can actually go and look far and wide for

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<v Speaker 2>you with other financial institutions that maybe have an even

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<v Speaker 2>better interest rate for you. And Adam McCabe we've had

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<v Speaker 2>on the show here from blue Land and you get

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant hack. It's like, what you can do is look

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<v Speaker 2>at what your current bank is offering new customers, and

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<v Speaker 2>if that new rate for new customers is lower than

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<v Speaker 2>what you're playing, that is often a sign that they

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<v Speaker 2>will go and reduce your rate to at least match that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Better, It shows they have the capacity to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't exactly, but it is going to depend on how

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<v Speaker 2>long you've been with the mank what the size of

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<v Speaker 2>your loan is, what you've paid off so far, value

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<v Speaker 2>of your property. There are a lot of obviously variables.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're not a confrontational person, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an introvert, honestly, this is a fairly easy

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<v Speaker 1>call to make to talk to someone at your bank

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I've done this before. Talk to them and

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<v Speaker 1>they did reduce the rate fairly significantly. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not comfortable doing that yourself, then talk to a mortgage

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<v Speaker 1>broker and get them to do it for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>they will do that is.

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<v Speaker 2>No skin off their nose, and a good more wood

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<v Speaker 2>wreck will happily do it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've already got that. They know where to go,

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<v Speaker 1>they know which banks are the ones that are more

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively chasing customers and things, and they are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that typically will actually move the greatest.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, but obviously, use those savings, don't spend it, don't

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<v Speaker 2>put that newfound savings back into your budget if you

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<v Speaker 2>can afford to increase your mortgage payments by that you

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<v Speaker 2>found savings. Last savings that expand massively.

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<v Speaker 1>The last one, number twelve. What do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>this one? It's kind of fun. Actually, they've got a

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<v Speaker 1>fun one for number twelve. Learn your credit score? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you reckon? I reckon? Most Australians probably would have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what their credit score is.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I agree with you on this one. And

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people think, oh, learning need to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about that when I go borrow money. But we've mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this in the past identity theft. You can see what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on who's potentially taken a credit card out in

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<v Speaker 2>your name. And obviously if you're preparing to borrow some money,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be buying a home or boring to renovate, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe looking at borrowing money to do a debt recycling strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>Jump online. It takes five minutes if that, and it's free.

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<v Speaker 2>It's free.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's quite satisfying. Again, I know this is

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds like all I'm looking for is satisfaction from

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<v Speaker 1>all of these resolutions, But it is quite satisfying to

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<v Speaker 1>go in there and to check it, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>check it again later. You can check it in six months,

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<v Speaker 1>you can check it in a year and see where

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<v Speaker 1>your credit score is in fact improving or whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>not backwards going backwards. There we go, because it is

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<v Speaker 1>something that you do need to keep an eye on because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, just that red flag of identity theft

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And also don't people don't realize if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good credit score, you're in a better bargaining position when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to negotiating a better for your home loan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. So you can actually say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I know my credit score is X. I am a

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<v Speaker 1>good candidate for this, I'm a good customer exactly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's a good list.

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<v Speaker 2>We have delivered. I feel like this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Twelve solid goals for twenty twenty five. Make a budget,

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<v Speaker 1>create a buffer in your budget, set up an emergency fund,

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<v Speaker 1>pay down debt, pay attention to your super start an

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<v Speaker 1>investment portfolio. Improve your financial literacy. Set up or update

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<v Speaker 1>your will, review your insurances. Call up your utilities provider

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<v Speaker 1>and ask for a better deal. Call up your bank

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<v Speaker 1>or mortgage broker and ask for a better deal. On

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<v Speaker 1>your home loan and learn your credit score. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very busy January.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring on twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very exciting, isn't it? All right? Cannor? If we

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<v Speaker 1>want more information, where do we find you?

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<v Speaker 2>Best base tomind me and contact me is through Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can hear me every day with Sean Aylmer

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<v Speaker 1>on Fear and Greed. Daily business news for people who

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