Speaker 1: Oh hi, and welcome to the Chrissy Cast, where I
Speaker 1: chat with my regular group of friends and interesting people
Speaker 1: from all over the world. And today's interesting person is
Speaker 1: none other than world famous psychic medium John Edward. I
Speaker 1: mean you would have seen him. You've probably been to
Speaker 1: his shows so everywhere. He's even been on the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: He's been thrilling us and touring everywhere all over the
Speaker 1: globe for the last a two billion years, I reckon now.
Speaker 1: He popped over to the compound to chat about all
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff, but I was particularly thrilled with the
Speaker 1: new game I made just for him. Is it Haunted? Enjoy?
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Christy Cast, John Edward, Thank you.
Speaker 2: For having me my friend.
Speaker 1: As I live and breathe, I cannot believe that you
Speaker 1: are here at my home.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am here, and I will be stealing your dog.
Speaker 1: Oh I know. He is it Murphy beautiful and he
Speaker 1: liked you straight away, straightway, even though you're wearing black
Speaker 1: like Johnny Cash. Is this the inspire today? If who
Speaker 1: come as Johnny.
Speaker 2: Cash, I'm the man in black.
Speaker 1: You are the man in black. Murphy loves you. Normally
Speaker 1: he doesn't warm to people who wear just black really,
Speaker 1: but he must see inside your soul. John Edwards Energy.
Speaker 1: Maybe you could go on tour with him.
Speaker 2: He's a cutie.
Speaker 1: He is a kiddie. I've got so many questions. I've
Speaker 1: been so excited to see you. I saw you last
Speaker 1: year in Sydney and it was characteristically nuts.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: I want to start by letting people know that you
Speaker 1: and I have been friends for a long time. Now.
Speaker 1: I reckon about twelve years.
Speaker 2: You would know, you would know better time wise.
Speaker 1: I think it's about twelve years.
Speaker 2: When was the circle first time?
Speaker 1: About twelve thirteen years ago, something like that. And you
Speaker 1: know you came in the in the second year and
Speaker 1: straight away we just connected.
Speaker 2: We were the two kids that were get thrown out
Speaker 2: of class together.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And you've always made me feel like a
Speaker 1: bit magical and I want to thank you for that.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you what you think of me.
Speaker 1: We've never done this before.
Speaker 2: No, we really haven't. I you are a scorpio, yes,
Speaker 2: and I have a scorpio rising right, so we have
Speaker 2: a celestial cousin kind of a vibe. So I felt
Speaker 2: very connected to from the first time I met you
Speaker 2: at the show. I loved your energy. You were effervescent.
Speaker 2: You are effervescent.
Speaker 1: I'm bonkers.
Speaker 2: But you're also like a little impish, so you have
Speaker 2: that little devilish side to you.
Speaker 1: So I'll never forget what we got up to in
Speaker 1: the kitchen on the circle. I mean it was a
Speaker 1: live television show and we were nearly kicked off the set. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're very naughty, yes, but.
Speaker 2: You managed you. You you powered through. I just pulled
Speaker 2: myself and I was like, I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: invited back to the show yet, but do you know
Speaker 2: I still make that recipe. I still have that recipe
Speaker 2: the game cooking. It was a chicken. Yeah, I can
Speaker 2: tell you two seconds.
Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic, do it.
Speaker 2: It's in my phone.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this because it was really good.
Speaker 1: It was a really good recipe. Did you bring the
Speaker 1: recipe or did we we?
Speaker 2: You had somebody there.
Speaker 1: That's right, And then you were like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: cook two.
Speaker 2: And they put me. They put me into this segment
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: Big mistake, big mistake. Huge. I can't wait. I can't
Speaker 1: believe you remember the recipe it was?
Speaker 2: Are you ready? Yeah? Okay, thirteen years old, here we go.
Speaker 2: Braised chicken. Raised chicken leg with pearl barley, serves four
Speaker 2: five small chicken legs, skin on bone. In time, you
Speaker 2: guys would say, shalottes whole, two finely diced five hundred
Speaker 2: mL of chicken stock, three hundred grams of pearl barley,
Speaker 2: one bunch of flat leaf parsley, dice, butter, spring onions,
Speaker 2: sea salt. Taste delicious.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. And you just put it
Speaker 1: all in a baking dish you and bang, yep, it
Speaker 1: was delicious. Can you please send that to me. I'm
Speaker 1: going to make that again. I've got, as you know,
Speaker 1: so many questions for you, and I'm just going to
Speaker 1: barrel through. Is that okay, let's do it. What is
Speaker 1: it like when you are in the same room as
Speaker 1: another medium? Is it like two cats off Instagram circling
Speaker 1: each other?
Speaker 2: And it could be depending upon the medium. If it's
Speaker 2: somebody that I know, it's a really healthy conversation. If
Speaker 2: it's a person that I respect, then it's a dynamic
Speaker 2: conversation because we are going to have a shared experience.
Speaker 2: If it's someone that tells me that they're a medium,
Speaker 2: but I've never seen them work and I have no
Speaker 2: idea if it's legit or if they're where they're coming from,
Speaker 2: more importantly, where they're coming from with the intention of
Speaker 2: their work. Yeah, then I'm going to be very powered
Speaker 2: down and almost removed. Really, I was approached. I became
Speaker 2: very very close to doing another big television show, probably
Speaker 2: about a decade ago, and it was back by a
Speaker 2: powerhouse person that was already having a very successful show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and as we were.
Speaker 1: As we were trying to know who it is, of
Speaker 1: course doctor Phil. Oh right, doctor h got another question
Speaker 1: about that, but don't get two yes.
Speaker 2: But it was doctor Phil's. He was kind of looking
Speaker 2: through and that was going to be myself at another
Speaker 2: medium that I respect her. Namasha Margolis just texting it
Speaker 2: before I walked in here, and they wanted other people to,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of be a part of that, and
Speaker 2: I didn't really resonate with some of the people, so
Speaker 2: it was kind of like, I just, you know, am
Speaker 2: one of the one of the women. As lovely as
Speaker 2: she was, you know, she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: isn't this so exciting? And I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I've done this twice before, like I've done two internationally
Speaker 2: syndicated shows. So excitement is not how I would look
Speaker 2: at it. Opportunity to teach and explain the process is
Speaker 2: how I would come from it. Yeah, right, But she
Speaker 2: had not done that, so she was looking at it
Speaker 2: from an excitement standpoint, and I.
Speaker 1: Just she was thinking of all the free shit she
Speaker 1: was about to get. And I understand that she.
Speaker 2: Was thinking about, like, this is going to be a
Speaker 2: great opportunity for my career realistically, Yeah, and if it happened,
Speaker 2: it would have been. But I was like, you should
Speaker 2: probably know, like I don't play nice in the sandbox,
Speaker 2: and she like looked at me, like what does that mean?
Speaker 2: I go It means that I have my own sandbox
Speaker 2: and I've kind of created that. Yes, and I play
Speaker 2: over here, and even though I might be doing something
Speaker 2: with somebody else, I'm still over here. Like I launched
Speaker 2: an app called I Showed You Evolve plus dot TV. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have my own channel on my own app because
Speaker 2: I keep myself separate. So I kind of feel like
Speaker 2: I have a lone wolf kind of approach.
Speaker 1: To me too. That is why you are here at
Speaker 1: my house because I think I am a lone wolf.
Speaker 2: Because you know, you can be responsible for your words
Speaker 2: and actions and what you do. Yeah, and in my field,
Speaker 2: you know, I have to be careful who I sat
Speaker 2: next to because if that person's not coming from the
Speaker 2: right spot, if there's a splat factor for them, then
Speaker 2: by association, I don't want.
Speaker 1: It lay down with dogs, as they say, do you
Speaker 1: get sick and tied? Oh? Wait, First of all, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about doctor Phil. Does he still have
Speaker 1: TV shows? He retired?
Speaker 2: Retired according to my limited knowledge, you know, he is
Speaker 2: now trying to launch his own network. Right, and he
Speaker 2: just did a really pathetic interview with Donald Trump, who
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of me neither.
Speaker 1: Why is his wife Robin in the front row and
Speaker 1: clapping every single show?
Speaker 2: I don't know. But did your did my wife call
Speaker 2: you and tell you to ask me that question?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: She'd always be like, what is she got to be
Speaker 2: at every show for? I'm like, I don't know. She
Speaker 2: was like, I don't get it. I'm like, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't what are you asking me? I don't know.
Speaker 1: My spidy senses tell me this. She doesn't trust him.
Speaker 2: She just loves her husband and what he does.
Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I would be very off put
Speaker 1: put off. If someone insisted to come and sit in
Speaker 1: that chair and watch me work, I would be very,
Speaker 1: very upset.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never had that conversent with me personally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would be like.
Speaker 2: Listen, I came on tour last year and I told
Speaker 2: all for Australian and I had a great experience. And
Speaker 2: I brought my two aunts, my only remaining aunts that
Speaker 2: are alive my mom's side of the family, and I
Speaker 2: think they felt obligated that they had to come to
Speaker 2: my like come to my events. And I finally said
Speaker 2: to them, I was like, go out, go eat, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you've seen me.
Speaker 1: You're their baby nephew. What are their names?
Speaker 2: Uh, Teresa yep and big Row Roseanne?
Speaker 1: Oh my god are they heaven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're my aunts.
Speaker 1: Now, do you get tired of people looking at you
Speaker 1: with desperation and needy eyes?
Speaker 2: No? I don't really. I don't really feel like I
Speaker 2: get that. So really, yeah, I don't really feel like
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: I think maybe you've blocked it.
Speaker 2: Out because maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: People are so desperate for you, I think to give
Speaker 1: them something.
Speaker 2: You know, my goal is always to give people something,
Speaker 2: and that is information, My job is to raise awareness
Speaker 2: and teach, so the readings are kind of a byproduct
Speaker 2: of that. The readings kind of are the thing that
Speaker 2: people resonate with and they actually want. But what I love,
Speaker 2: really It's one of my favorite things is when somebody's
Speaker 2: done being at an event and they say to me,
Speaker 2: you know, I came for the reading, but I left
Speaker 2: with so much more. Yeah. Like that to me is
Speaker 2: like the best. That is the best.
Speaker 1: What are the basic themes that, regardless of whether or
Speaker 1: not you are lucky enough to get a reading in
Speaker 1: these shows, what do you want people to take away?
Speaker 2: I want people to know that there's a survival of consciousness,
Speaker 2: that life and love are eternal. I want them to
Speaker 2: know that they don't need a medium to connect them
Speaker 2: with what's already there. Like you don't need me to
Speaker 2: read for you. You need me to help you understand it's possible,
Speaker 2: and more importantly, that it's happening, and that you have
Speaker 2: your own relationship and how great is it for you
Speaker 2: to work on your own dynamic with your loved ones
Speaker 2: who have passed. Sure, I get in the way of it.
Speaker 2: I validated. I show the possibility, but it's not about me,
Speaker 2: Like you don't have conversation with one of your kids,
Speaker 2: and then when you get done with that conversation, go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I love this phone. You love your child? Yeah,
Speaker 2: well the phone. The phone is a conduit. I'm just
Speaker 2: a phone, so I'm not the conversation.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Has anyone come through for someone that you've
Speaker 1: read that that person doesn't know.
Speaker 2: Sure, and then they've had to actually go back to
Speaker 2: their family and find out stuff.
Speaker 1: Could George Michael come through for me if.
Speaker 2: You had some type of connection to George Michael.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a connection with him. He didn't know
Speaker 1: that I existed, but I would like George Michael to
Speaker 1: come through for me.
Speaker 2: Well, George Michael would have to have a reason to
Speaker 2: come through for you.
Speaker 1: So this is you know how much I loved him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if George knows that, but I can
Speaker 2: tell you that when Elvis had that release of that
Speaker 2: last song, a little less conversation that they I thought
Speaker 2: I was being pranked by friends because I had gotten
Speaker 2: a phone call from a radio station that wanted to
Speaker 2: book me to connect with Elvis. So I, like, you
Speaker 2: know it, never responded back. I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 1: God you must have had some them crackers requests had
Speaker 1: three more radio stations contact me and they were trying
Speaker 1: to book me first so that they could bring through
Speaker 1: Elvis to find out what he thought about charting.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, like, like, these people don't get it.
Speaker 2: There's got to be a link or a connection, and
Speaker 2: connection has to be like you know the person, or
Speaker 2: you've got a connection to the person, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as you said, you're the conduit. So it's
Speaker 1: really up to Elvis to tap you on the shoulder
Speaker 1: and say, hey, can you let this radio station know
Speaker 1: what I like this song?
Speaker 2: You have to have a connection to the person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you know.
Speaker 2: I remember I have a colleague that used to tell
Speaker 2: a story. She's now passed, but she used to tell
Speaker 2: a story where she was doing a group in her
Speaker 2: house kind of like this, and somebody said, can you
Speaker 2: bring through Elvis? And Shelley turned around and said, are
Speaker 2: you related to Elvis? And she goes, no, but I
Speaker 2: love him, She goes, what makes you think Elvis is
Speaker 2: going to come through just for you? So she said no,
Speaker 2: if there was a link or a connection at that group.
Speaker 2: Halfway through, she said, I can't bring through Elvis. But
Speaker 2: somebody here is related to the opera singer Enrique Caruso,
Speaker 2: and one of the people there said, yeah, that was
Speaker 2: my cousin.
Speaker 1: Oh my, so that is very specific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a story that she told all the time.
Speaker 1: So George, I'm never going to be able to tell.
Speaker 2: Him no, but you should not lose faith.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I guess it with an a sack, all right.
Speaker 1: Next on, I've been told by two mediums unrelated that
Speaker 1: there is an old school butcher that hangs around me
Speaker 1: for really, yeah, and that what's that about?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. You'd have to ask the two
Speaker 2: people who told you for real, Like you'd have to say,
Speaker 2: why are they saying that like butcher as a person
Speaker 2: who like works with beef. Yeah, that is a unique
Speaker 2: message to get from two separate individuals. Yeah, did you
Speaker 2: have a butcher in your family? Yes, well then you
Speaker 2: know who it is.
Speaker 1: Then, But I didn't know that person.
Speaker 2: Ah, the age old I didn't know that person. What
Speaker 2: I love in a reading is when you give information
Speaker 2: to someone and they go, yeah, but they died a
Speaker 2: long time ago, or that's the other side of the family,
Speaker 2: or I divorce that side of the family. Or they
Speaker 2: died before I was born, Like, why would they come through?
Speaker 2: Because it's your family, that's why. And they usually usually
Speaker 2: one of a few people that would come through. But
Speaker 2: that's like a specific validation to show you that it's
Speaker 2: that person.
Speaker 1: I should probably do some research into this old school
Speaker 1: butcher because I do like an Ie fell it. I
Speaker 1: do like, what's your favorite cut of beef? That it's
Speaker 1: an Ie fill it?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Can I give you a cooking tee?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: How do you prepare your steak?
Speaker 2: It depends. I'm a big fan of adding a wine
Speaker 2: sauce to it. I have a really good for a
Speaker 2: wine sauce from a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Can you text that to me?
Speaker 2: I can text that to you.
Speaker 1: I love a wine sauce red wine.
Speaker 2: It is red wine and port wine with dry sherry.
Speaker 1: Oh that would be delicious.
Speaker 2: It is so good.
Speaker 1: Is there cream in it? And pepper?
Speaker 2: No cream? You can salt and pepper it. You could
Speaker 2: put like little pearl onions in it.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you? It is so hard to find
Speaker 1: a good sauce for steak, isn't it?
Speaker 2: I love a good tender.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to get that recipe off you and
Speaker 1: I'm going to in return, I'm going to give you
Speaker 1: a tip. Okay, when you're making your steak at home.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. You might have chefs or something.
Speaker 1: Oh kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2: Huge rotating chefs. Yes, my wife, my son.
Speaker 1: Oh it's Susie's day. Oh okay, right. The best tip
Speaker 1: I can give you is when you buy your steak.
Speaker 2: This is a steak tip.
Speaker 1: It's a steak tip. Is that you must leave it
Speaker 1: on your bench for at least two hours before you
Speaker 1: cook it.
Speaker 2: Now, when you see bench, do you mean like counter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I do mean the counter the countertap countertap?
Speaker 2: Is it wrapped? Is it unwrapped? Is it salted?
Speaker 1: It is? I mean, these are great questions, John, these
Speaker 1: are important questions, so happy to answer them. You take
Speaker 1: your steak, You put it in a bowl olive oil,
Speaker 1: which you would know all about giving your Italian background.
Speaker 1: Olive oil, sea salt, pepper if you want, mush it around,
Speaker 1: or get the chef to mush it around, and then
Speaker 1: you walk away. Nope, no saran wrap or glad rap
Speaker 1: is what we call it here down under. Leave it
Speaker 1: for at least two hours.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can leave it open for
Speaker 2: two hours.
Speaker 1: I knew you'd be that. Jermy guy, I knew it.
Speaker 2: You saw me walking here a masks like you know.
Speaker 1: I can't do that, all right, I'll allow Saren wrap.
Speaker 1: I'll allow is that? Hey, what you call it? Saren wrap?
Speaker 2: Sen?
Speaker 1: Okay, Sara Saran wrap, plastic wrap, very fancy clean wrap.
Speaker 1: We clean rap film.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: I will allow that ash, but you must leave it.
Speaker 2: And what does this exactly do?
Speaker 1: It makes the steak tender, just about as tender as
Speaker 1: a murther's love is how it makes the steak. Second tip,
Speaker 1: Heat your pan, get it hot.
Speaker 2: Throw the water in, make sure that it's going to
Speaker 2: do the well.
Speaker 1: You could do that, but I just like wait until
Speaker 1: it's smoking so much I nearly have to call the
Speaker 1: fire brigade. That's a visual for me. When it's doing that,
Speaker 1: you put the steak in, You don't oil the pan.
Speaker 1: The oil is on the steak, not in the pan.
Speaker 2: Creates a nast fond Yes, sealed, seared.
Speaker 1: Seared anyway. That was steak Chat with John Edward Chrissy Swan.
Speaker 2: No steak tips.
Speaker 1: Steak tips. John. I once heard a voice very clearly
Speaker 1: come out of a secondhand wardrobe, thoughts, concerns.
Speaker 2: Where was the wardrobe? Where were you when this happened.
Speaker 1: I was laying in bed in my mum's house and
Speaker 1: we'd got this wardrobe from the trading post because there's
Speaker 1: no wardrobes in the house. And a man's voice came
Speaker 1: out of the wardrobe and it said, couldn't you just
Speaker 1: leave me alone?
Speaker 2: Now? Have you heard those voices before?
Speaker 1: No, it was not a voice I recognized, okay, And.
Speaker 2: It was just a reaction that you had, Like it
Speaker 2: was a reaction to touching it. It was a reaction to.
Speaker 1: No I was I was going to load my stuff
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 2: How old were you at the time.
Speaker 1: Twenty one?
Speaker 2: Did you tell anybody?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now.
Speaker 2: So you've held this on for a few years.
Speaker 1: Yep, because I thought I might be going mad? Can
Speaker 1: things be haunted?
Speaker 2: So I'm not really a believer in items being haunted.
Speaker 2: I'm not really a believer in that. I believe that
Speaker 2: you had your experience and you associated it with that
Speaker 2: hutch at that moment, so you might have been feeling
Speaker 2: that and then because that's what you were doing, that's
Speaker 2: where you put the you put the impetus to it
Speaker 2: as opposed to it having nothing to do with like,
Speaker 2: I don't believe dolls are haunted. I don't believe address
Speaker 2: was haunted. I don't believe houses.
Speaker 1: Well, this really feed you out, really fucks up our
Speaker 1: next segment because I've created an opener and everything, and
Speaker 1: we're going to play it anyway regardless of what you
Speaker 1: just said, because do you want to play a game
Speaker 1: with me? John Edward? Yes, John Edwards? Wait, oh wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait wait I had it on.
Speaker 2: Is this like a Mystic Meg thing going on?
Speaker 1: Here's Mystic Meg. I love it. I've heard of Mystic Meg.
Speaker 1: Is she an American?
Speaker 2: No? It wasn't it you on your radio show.
Speaker 1: It's Mystic Chrissy. I'm very sorry.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's your alter ego, Mystic Meg.
Speaker 1: You know what, I was pretty spot on sometimes.
Speaker 2: Most of the time, not favorite segments.
Speaker 1: Are you ready?
Speaker 2: I am bring it?
Speaker 1: And now it's time for John Edwards? Is it haunted?
Speaker 2: Very traumatic?
Speaker 1: Do you want it again? Just really?
Speaker 2: I think I'm good. That's okay, I think I'm good.
Speaker 1: I've gathered some things from around my house and I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask you is it haunted?
Speaker 2: I can tell you no, without you're gathering them, but
Speaker 2: I'd love to see them.
Speaker 1: Edit that bit out. I'm going to hand you this
Speaker 1: swordfish that says Australia nineteen eighty six. Hold it to it.
Speaker 2: Don't you want me to touch your fish?
Speaker 1: Touch my fish?
Speaker 2: Touch it, Johnny, we would be thrown out of school
Speaker 2: right out. Two of us.
Speaker 1: Feel it? Really get the vibe. Is it haunted?
Speaker 2: I'm going to say no. Would you like it to
Speaker 2: be haunted?
Speaker 1: God, you're a pain in my ass. Hold this. It's
Speaker 1: a black cat ashtray and when you put your sigy
Speaker 1: in it, smoke comes out his nose. Is it haunted?
Speaker 2: No, it's not haunted your fish, and I'm not saying it.
Speaker 1: It's another word for cat.
Speaker 2: You're puddy, is not? Is not haunted?
Speaker 1: Tell you what, there's a ghost living in there. Don't
Speaker 1: you worry about that? What about this one? Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Get the fish and the cat out of your hand?
Speaker 1: John Edwards? Really feel it? Turn it over in your hand.
Speaker 1: It's it's a Nokia phone from the early eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: Holy crap, that's is tainy I know.
Speaker 1: Is it haunted?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's haunted by the It's haunted by the memories
Speaker 2: of the conversation that happened.
Speaker 1: And what conversation was that? Try harder.
Speaker 2: I wish I could tell you.
Speaker 1: Next thing, is it haunted? It is a Big Brother
Speaker 1: shot class shot glass from dream World two thousand and three.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's not haunted. But whoever are
Speaker 2: you connected to that?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is there somebody that you're connected to that actually did
Speaker 2: pass though that's tied to that?
Speaker 1: Maybe? I'm not sure. I'll have to think about that, because.
Speaker 2: As soon as you showed me that, I was like,
Speaker 2: I've haunted. But whatever you link that to to me,
Speaker 2: I feel like you have a connection to somebody's past. Really, actually,
Speaker 2: anybody overdose connected to or past because of substance.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god. I come up from a long
Speaker 1: line of alcoholics. Is that what you mean substance alcohol drugs? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but more.
Speaker 2: Of a contemporary like a friend. That's that. As soon
Speaker 2: as you showed me that, that's where that popped.
Speaker 1: Somebody who had somebody who did this show right in
Speaker 1: a couple of series before I did, did pass away,
Speaker 1: and I think it might have been from an overdose.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a show here, Yes, it's a show
Speaker 3: that I was on that's a.
Speaker 2: Show you were on on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, not like a radio show, like a TV show.
Speaker 1: What's Big Brother?
Speaker 2: Oh? Like the like in the house?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you win?
Speaker 1: No? I lost. I'm a giant loser. No, but no
Speaker 1: I can't second.
Speaker 2: But as a result of coming second, look where you've come.
Speaker 1: Now, that's right. We wouldn't be here if not for
Speaker 1: this shot. Class.
Speaker 2: You want to be a famous author, radio host, TV host?
Speaker 1: That's right. What's the best thing I ever did?
Speaker 2: Podcast?
Speaker 1: Podcaster?
Speaker 2: Handing me fish and cats?
Speaker 1: We're still playing is it haunted by the way? Because
Speaker 1: I'm not. I haven't even i'n't finished.
Speaker 2: Because I have to teach while we're doing this. You know,
Speaker 2: when you actually take on somebody's object, right, like when
Speaker 2: you take a person's object and put it in your hand,
Speaker 2: you're actually able to read that object. Yeah, it's called psychometry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there's two different types of psychometry. There's objective psychometry
Speaker 2: and subjective psychometry. So objective psychomogies where you would read
Speaker 2: the object, yeah, the history of it, and subjective psychometriies
Speaker 2: where you read the person who is connected to it.
Speaker 2: Which is why if anybody goes for reading, you should
Speaker 2: never give the medium an object or something photo of
Speaker 2: the person who's passed, because you can connect with their
Speaker 2: energy and accurately read it. But it's not really a
Speaker 2: reading communicating.
Speaker 1: That is interesting. Hold this is that the Last Supper? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a copper. I mean, wouldn't it be amazing if
Speaker 1: Jesus came through?
Speaker 2: So I think Judas, I think i'd be the first
Speaker 2: person out of this room. I have a friend that's
Speaker 2: a priest, and thee night he said to me, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going back now like twenty five years. He goes, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to do dinner in a reading. I go,
Speaker 2: we are and he said, yes, you're going to provide
Speaker 2: both provide dinner and then the reading. And that night
Speaker 2: he said to me, after we ate, he goes, tonight,
Speaker 2: I want you to go big, and I said, what
Speaker 2: does that mean? He goes, I want you to bring
Speaker 2: me one of the twelve.
Speaker 1: It's not an old day.
Speaker 2: And I literally laughed and I said to him, I go,
Speaker 2: I know we have a lot of parallels, but I
Speaker 2: didn't know that your mom and dad were like one
Speaker 2: of twelve because my mom was one of eleven. So
Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't know you had like twelve
Speaker 2: Anton uncles. And he looked at me and he goes, no,
Speaker 2: I go, what do you mean? Bring you one of
Speaker 2: the twelve? And he just shook his head and he
Speaker 2: goes one of the twelve parcels. And I looked at him.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't do that. He goes, why not?
Speaker 2: I go, how am I going to bring you one
Speaker 2: of the twelve? He goes, why can't you do it?
Speaker 2: I was like, how am I going to validate for
Speaker 2: you that I'm connecting with an apostle? And he goes,
Speaker 2: that's the easy part for me. I go, how is
Speaker 2: that the easy part? He goes, You're clearly not that
Speaker 2: good of a Catholic. He goes, so i'll know who
Speaker 2: you're talking about. I was like, nah, I'm good. I
Speaker 2: really can't do that. But he was serious. He was like,
Speaker 2: can you do?
Speaker 1: I love I love the whole idea of comfort, dinner
Speaker 1: and rating, and we want you to go big tonight.
Speaker 1: We want this show biz.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like go big, Like I don't want Grandma, I
Speaker 2: want like one of the twelve.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is outrageous. I really do want you
Speaker 1: to hold this one, though, because I really want to know.
Speaker 1: Is this haunted?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Sorry, is it from like a grandma or something?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's from my grandma. It's the one thing that
Speaker 1: I've got of hers.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's from your grandma.
Speaker 1: It is from my grandma's.
Speaker 2: As soon as I touched it, I was like, oh Grandma, Yeah, Grandma.
Speaker 1: I love her. She was the best. I recently turned fifty.
Speaker 1: Do you look like her?
Speaker 2: Yes, because I feel like you would look like her.
Speaker 1: I look like her, I am like her. I cook
Speaker 1: like her very similar. In fact, I probably didn't know
Speaker 1: how like her I was until recently.
Speaker 2: Do you remember her?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2: What would be the story with the laundry? With her?
Speaker 1: With the laundry?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, was she very fastidious about how she washed
Speaker 2: or how you folded or how things were laid out
Speaker 2: to dry.
Speaker 1: Or she was she was good at it and I
Speaker 1: am obsessed with laundry. And she had.
Speaker 2: She had a hard life, she did. Yeah, I had
Speaker 2: a hard life growing up. She did not have it easy. No,
Speaker 2: she had two false starts.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, yeah, because her childhood was rough. She was
Speaker 1: the youngest, I mean, the eldest of heaps of kids,
Speaker 1: and so she lost her sister too. Yes, she did, Yes,
Speaker 1: as she lost.
Speaker 2: Young age, like like when she was younger, she like
Speaker 2: lost somebody young. So I feel like she had she
Speaker 2: had a deal with loss early. From what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know. You know, is there a Till
Speaker 2: name in that family? Tell like a like a Matilda
Speaker 2: or Tilly or a Talia. There's a tea name. There's
Speaker 2: a tea connection that's gonna that's somewhere connected to your grandma.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to think.
Speaker 2: Kind of like Tilly, like literally Tilly. I hear Till
Speaker 2: in my head. Is she through your mom's.
Speaker 1: Side, Yes, she's mom's mom.
Speaker 2: Is your mom still here?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Just ask her who Tilly is? Okay, I will just
Speaker 2: be like, why would grandma bring up Tilly? And do
Speaker 2: you know if there were uh, somebody who had the
Speaker 2: leg amputated?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, her brother he passed two. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: all dead, one of the twelve.
Speaker 2: Do you know if one of them was arrested and
Speaker 2: spend a little time maybe dealing with some legal things.
Speaker 1: I would say so, yes, yeah that were rugs and vagabonds.
Speaker 2: Rugs and vagabonds. Yeah, well you Grandma's clearly with you.
Speaker 2: But you don't have. That's not the only thing you
Speaker 2: have from her. You have the other thing that was
Speaker 2: handed down to you. It's not just that, it's more smaller,
Speaker 2: like a like a chain or a necklace or something
Speaker 2: that would be of that. Maybe rosary beads. I don't know,
Speaker 2: there's something that would.
Speaker 1: Oh, rosary beats. Yeah, I've got rosary beats, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of hers, yeah yeah, they're the only two things i've got.
Speaker 2: Yep. And you have a photo for when you make communion?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yes I do.
Speaker 2: She wants me to remind you the story where somebody
Speaker 2: was out and a grown up had a little bit
Speaker 2: of a whoopsie in public.
Speaker 1: Well like pood their pants or something.
Speaker 2: The other way weed and then they were laughing. It
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I mean it was in a parking
Speaker 2: lot between chors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that happened. But that was my best friend.
Speaker 2: Well, your grandma's bringing up that story.
Speaker 1: She loved Beck as well. So isn't that funny? I mean,
Speaker 1: I've sort of answered my next My next question was
Speaker 1: I turned fifty recently and I had a I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to celebrate it at all, not that I'm humbug
Speaker 1: about it. But I was just like, no, I'm excited
Speaker 1: about it or whatever, but I just don't want a
Speaker 1: big party because you know, I don't drink anymore, and
Speaker 1: when you don't drink, the whole idea of getting together
Speaker 1: and getting blind drunk isn't that appealing. And then I thought,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Anyway, I ended up
Speaker 1: having a lot. I really drilled down into what how
Speaker 1: I want my next fifty years to look for another fifty? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am ok?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I thought, you know, friends to me are
Speaker 1: like my favorite thing, and I feel like friendship if
Speaker 1: you can, if you are lucky enough to have meaningful friendships,
Speaker 1: that's like a superpower for me. So I sort of
Speaker 1: handpicked thirty people that I've loved and have loved me back,
Speaker 1: and I've felt that for decades and decades, and I
Speaker 1: invited them over for lunch is the most beautiful thing
Speaker 1: and in honor.
Speaker 3: Of I'm sorry, well, look, I would have, but I
Speaker 3: thought he's not going.
Speaker 1: To come all the way from his palatial chef digs
Speaker 1: to come and have lunch with me.
Speaker 2: I might have if I was invaded, but sorry, shit,
Speaker 2: now I'm channeling my grandmother and the fine and then.
Speaker 1: I could have said to you come over and.
Speaker 2: Go big great. I could have been the entertainment.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I thought, what's a theme that I could go for?
Speaker 1: You know who else is? Really it has been really
Speaker 1: important to me, and I thought, grand you know, I
Speaker 1: feel so connected to her. And obviously she can't come
Speaker 1: to the lunch. But when I was little, she was
Speaker 1: a big crafter, like she knitted and crocheted and everything.
Speaker 1: And when me and my sisters were born, she sort
Speaker 1: of gave us a color. And for my older sister
Speaker 1: it was blue, so things would derive from Australia post
Speaker 1: handmade rugs and face washers and all of that, and
Speaker 1: we would know that the blue ones for my older sister.
Speaker 1: My middle sister was green, and I was yellow, so
Speaker 1: we would, you know, tear through it all and pick
Speaker 1: our colors. So everything she made me was always yellow.
Speaker 1: So I got everybody to wear yellow to my birthday
Speaker 1: party in honor of her, and it was so gorgeous
Speaker 1: and it felt like a real It just really honored her.
Speaker 1: Was beautiful. That is really beautiful, really cool? Does she
Speaker 1: know that I did that?
Speaker 2: Absolutely great? Yeah, I mean, if she can come through
Speaker 2: talking about the other stuff. That's the important part about
Speaker 2: her reading is when you see the factual stuff come
Speaker 2: through to validate the stuff that we talked about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then they know about the everyday stuff as well.
Speaker 1: That's good. I like that, it's important to me.
Speaker 2: But I think what's really significant is how you honored
Speaker 2: her on your day, how you included her. I think
Speaker 2: that is so so important. But getting back to the
Speaker 2: next fifty years, I probably won't be here for the
Speaker 2: next fifty years, and I promised you.
Speaker 1: High enough for that negative self talk, John Nata.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just being realistic. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: here for another fifty that I'd be one hundred and five.
Speaker 2: So I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Dick Van Doyk. Yeah, he's killing it.
Speaker 2: He's killing it.
Speaker 1: Not for me, night, I can't talk for you, all right, great.
Speaker 2: Not for me, okay. But that being said, just know
Speaker 2: that when I'm not here and you still are, when
Speaker 2: you reach for the draw and you hear the voice,
Speaker 2: it's me. I will come back and haunt your draw.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you'll haunt this studio. You'll be like, well,
Speaker 1: come in one morning and I'm like cat, you go away.
Speaker 2: I'll be talking about vegetables.
Speaker 1: Ha ha and chicken drumsticks. Now, what is the most
Speaker 1: bizarre reaction you've ever gotten from giving a message to
Speaker 1: a person?
Speaker 2: Oh, I just told the story. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: You asked me that I was doing a reading for
Speaker 2: a woman for a young girl who lost her front
Speaker 2: and while I'm doing the reading, the girl said, you
Speaker 2: have to call my mom now, and I was like,
Speaker 2: she wants me to call her mom? She said, you
Speaker 2: know her mom's phe number and she said yes. So
Speaker 2: I went and got my house phone, the cordless house
Speaker 2: phone with the big antea. It was a time at
Speaker 2: that time, and we called the mom and she said, hi, missus,
Speaker 2: so and so I'm having reading and your daughter's coming through.
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk to the medium? And she
Speaker 2: said yes. So I get on the phone and I
Speaker 2: give her the information.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The woman let out like a horror movie screen, like
Speaker 2: you just played for me like that and drop the phone. Send.
Speaker 2: Some other lady gets on the phone and starts screaming
Speaker 2: at me like you insensitive crap blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I was like, and in my mind, after she hung
Speaker 2: up with me. I looked at the girl that I
Speaker 2: was reading and I was like, I am so sorry.
Speaker 2: I said, we just did what she asked, which was
Speaker 2: call her mom right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fast forward a week later, we find out the mom
Speaker 2: was reading a book about mediumship and there was a
Speaker 2: phone reading apparently that had happened in the book, and
Speaker 2: she said to whoever she was with, if this is real,
Speaker 2: then I want my daughter to call me. And we
Speaker 2: did right after she said that.
Speaker 3: So she freaked out, understandable, So that was a pretty
Speaker 3: pretty big moment.
Speaker 1: Wow, do you believe in any other kind of ugidy
Speaker 1: boogerty stuff like taro, horoscopes, astrology, birth charts?
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't classify it as ugity boogerity. I would
Speaker 2: classify it as metaphysical practices.
Speaker 1: So sign ougidy boogery metaphysical. I mean the same thing.
Speaker 4: The wool, Yeah, the wool, the wo astrology. Yes, you've
Speaker 4: never been more New York than you were just then.
Speaker 4: It's the wool, it's the vibe of the wool.
Speaker 2: Astrology, numerology, taro are all tools. They're all tools. So yes,
Speaker 2: I do believe in the practice, not alway. Isn't the practitioner.
Speaker 1: Yes, fair, Which of those do you love the most?
Speaker 2: Me personally?
Speaker 1: Yeah, to do, Yeah, I love Taro. How does taro work?
Speaker 1: I just got a I've got a block with it,
Speaker 1: so I don't understand how like cards can mean some.
Speaker 2: So they're more of a psychological archetype experience than what
Speaker 2: people think when it comes to prediction. So they can
Speaker 2: be used to forecast, but that's not really what they're
Speaker 2: used for. A true tarot reading is going to get
Speaker 2: you into the understanding of where you're at now and
Speaker 2: what's coming up for you. So the fact that those
Speaker 2: cards are laying out in a specific way kind of
Speaker 2: acts as a conduit for the reader to be able
Speaker 2: to see what's happening around you, and then it gives
Speaker 2: you a framework. The layout gives you a framework of
Speaker 2: what is coming up or where to put the information.
Speaker 2: For me personally, I love working with Taro. Now, if
Speaker 2: you tell me what do I think is an important
Speaker 2: tool astrology? Because I think having your astrological tarct done
Speaker 2: is really important for everybody at least once a year.
Speaker 1: You at least once a year.
Speaker 2: At least once a year, once a year.
Speaker 1: You first suggested that I get that done years ago,
Speaker 1: and I had it done about a month ago and
Speaker 1: no last week, last week, and it was astounding the
Speaker 1: people that are listening an astrology is that the times
Speaker 1: the birth or what did I have done? It's about
Speaker 1: where the planets were when I first took my breath
Speaker 1: when I was born.
Speaker 2: That's called your natal chart, right, that was?
Speaker 1: And what extraordinary?
Speaker 2: And what you need is the day of birth, time
Speaker 2: of birth, and the place and the location. And they'll
Speaker 2: do you a natal chart and it's pretty powerful. But
Speaker 2: I like it when I'm reading a client and I
Speaker 2: see them stuck, what I'll say to them is, I
Speaker 2: want you to have your chart done, but I want
Speaker 2: you to tell the astrologer that you had a reading
Speaker 2: with me. And then I want you to tell the
Speaker 2: astrologer to look here right, this is the area that
Speaker 2: you need to work on and give them give them
Speaker 2: a place to dive in, because an astrologer are going
Speaker 2: to look at whatever they want to look at in
Speaker 2: your chart, but if you give them directions. So I
Speaker 2: look at astrology like an MRI to kind of focus
Speaker 2: onto an area. So if you have something that's going on,
Speaker 2: if there's like a pattern that's happening in your life.
Speaker 2: If there's like a relationship dynamic, if there's an issue
Speaker 2: that you're not happy with, you know, you feel stuck, stagnant, blocked, anything.
Speaker 2: That's the area that you want to go look at
Speaker 2: and you want to say the person like, Hey, this
Speaker 2: is how I'm feeling. Why Why am I feeling this way?
Speaker 1: See? I that's very interesting because I know myself very well,
Speaker 1: and there are all sorts of things about my personality
Speaker 1: and my character that I've never really been able to
Speaker 1: explain away, all those things that make you you that
Speaker 1: you go, I know this about myself, but why? But why?
Speaker 1: And when I was talking to this woman, everything made
Speaker 1: sense about why I am the way I am according
Speaker 1: to where the planets were when I was born. It
Speaker 1: was extraordinary.
Speaker 2: So in eighteen eighty eight, I had a job where
Speaker 2: I was working at a video store and I know
Speaker 2: back in the day.
Speaker 1: I mean five weeklies for ten dollars, mad for that.
Speaker 2: And I had a woman that walked into the store. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was early in the morning, so the store was
Speaker 2: completely empty. So the first time she ever walked in
Speaker 2: and as soon as I looked at her, I saw
Speaker 2: super imposed over her the astrological wheel and I went, oh,
Speaker 2: my god, you're an astrologer. And she stopped and she
Speaker 2: looked at me and went and clearly you're a psychic.
Speaker 2: That was our first meeting, how I mean, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: And then every day she would come in and we
Speaker 2: would talk about astrology and she said, you should let
Speaker 2: me do your chart. I was like, okay, so I
Speaker 2: was all of sixteen seventeen maybe at the time. Oh wow, No,
Speaker 2: that's not true. I was older. I was eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was eighteen. And when she was reading my chart
Speaker 2: in early in eighteen eighty eight, she said, I think
Speaker 2: your birth time might be off by a minute. I
Speaker 2: was like why. She's like, well, I'm looking at you know,
Speaker 2: the chart rectification of where things are, and I just
Speaker 2: think it's going to put things off a year for you. Okay.
Speaker 2: I was brand new into understanding astrology. And then she said,
Speaker 2: your mom's gonna have a very very very difficult October.
Speaker 2: And I said, like, how physical transformation, there may be
Speaker 2: some stuff for her life might not look the same
Speaker 2: after October. And she was kind of like, so October
Speaker 2: of nineteen eighty eight came, and now I'm waiting, you
Speaker 2: know anything happening, and my mom actually saved a woman's
Speaker 2: life on a bus in New York City. She was
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair and not my mom, but this one
Speaker 2: was in a wheelchair and in the back of the
Speaker 2: bus they have the ramp and they didn't fix her
Speaker 2: into the seat, And as they were going over the
Speaker 2: fifty ninth Street bridge, they hit a very big pothole bump,
Speaker 2: and the woman started going towards the back exit. My mom, superhero,
Speaker 2: threw herself over. Three people stopped. The woman pulled her shoulder. Well,
Speaker 2: that pole of a shoulder wasn't a pole of a shoulder.
Speaker 2: It was lung cancer and it aggravated a tumor that
Speaker 2: was there anyway, long story short. Between that October and April,
Speaker 2: she went through every possible test to try to figure
Speaker 2: out what was wrong with her shoulder until it was
Speaker 2: diagnosed as lung cancer. And then she passed October fifth,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. Wow, And that woman d said to me,
Speaker 2: I told you your birth time was off by a minute.
Speaker 2: Put the events off by a year.
Speaker 1: So oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she got my mom's passing to the actual hour.
Speaker 1: Can you read charts me?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, now, because that's all about geometry.
Speaker 2: And I failed that twice in school.
Speaker 1: So have you got like a learning disability?
Speaker 2: I had a learning disability when it came to geometry.
Speaker 2: I did, I really honestly did. I had a teacher
Speaker 2: who was in his last year of teaching. He had
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's and they were just trying to push him through
Speaker 2: so that he can get his retirement. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: was in his class, and I need to be taught taught. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not a like go read a book person. No,
Speaker 2: so if you explain it to me, I'll own it.
Speaker 2: If you don't teach it to me like that, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to be able to get it. So as
Speaker 2: hard as they tried, it was I could not could.
Speaker 2: It was like I had like three tutors. It was
Speaker 2: just I failed the region. So then I take some school.
Speaker 2: It was like a whole big deal. And then when
Speaker 2: it came time.
Speaker 1: You're giving me anxiety. I hate that feeling of not
Speaker 1: being enough understanding just going. I cannot I could. I really,
Speaker 1: it's the worst.
Speaker 2: And they were like, it's easy. You have fifteen proofs
Speaker 2: or fifteen theorems, and I was like.
Speaker 1: Don't say it's easy. I'm going to stab you if
Speaker 1: you say it's easy.
Speaker 2: And then I literally had three separate tutors try to
Speaker 2: teach me. Like everybody tried to help, but I was
Speaker 2: that I was the kid that fell through the crack
Speaker 2: when it came to came to geometry. And then I
Speaker 2: realized that I needed to be that kid that fell
Speaker 2: through the crack when it came to geometry. And you'll
Speaker 2: understand why because when I went to take my first
Speaker 2: astrology class, it was from actually the woman that did
Speaker 2: the Enrique A Caruso.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's her.
Speaker 2: So she was doing She goes come to my class.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, no joke. She had to me
Speaker 2: like seven books. I'm like, what am I supposed to
Speaker 2: do with this? She goes, this is how we're going
Speaker 2: to cast a chart. We're gonna we're going to cast
Speaker 2: your chart. I'm like, I need I need these books.
Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, you need longitudes, latitudes. She went through
Speaker 2: like you know, the Ephemerist. There was like all these
Speaker 2: different books that we had to and I literally looked
Speaker 2: at her like, are you out of your mind? I can't,
Speaker 2: I said, I'm I'm taking a tremendous amount of I've
Speaker 2: taken twenty one credits that year in college. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: how about No, I'm busy, and then she goes, listen,
Speaker 2: it's going to come right back to you from high school.
Speaker 2: She goes, this astrology is sacred geometry. That was it.
Speaker 2: We were done the moment she said geometry astrology and
Speaker 2: I parted way. I was like, oh, this is not
Speaker 2: going to be for me.
Speaker 1: Logic gone.
Speaker 2: But I think it needed to happen because I don't
Speaker 2: think I would have become John Edward the medium. I
Speaker 2: think I would have become John I love the science
Speaker 2: aspect of astrology and the degree. Yeah, seeing what they
Speaker 2: could know and how it's all changing. So I find
Speaker 2: it so fascinating, Like I love to listen to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would.
Speaker 2: Have become probably more obsessed with that and less paying
Speaker 2: attention to the world of energy interesting. So I think
Speaker 2: that block had to happen early on.
Speaker 1: You have very neatly brought me to my next question
Speaker 1: literally on the list. I've got a vague memory that
Speaker 1: used to be a tradee like a plumber or a
Speaker 1: electrician or something.
Speaker 2: No phlebotomus. I used to work in the hospital as
Speaker 2: a flobotomist. What's a phlebotomist, a venipuncturist, vampire drewa blood
Speaker 2: work for the.
Speaker 1: Lab, ah, one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my backgrounds are healthcare.
Speaker 1: OK. Obviously you would have been that if you hadn't
Speaker 1: kind of discovered your gift. What else could you have
Speaker 1: been if you weren't a global superstar?
Speaker 2: I probably would be doing surgery really yeah, because my
Speaker 2: degree is in healthcare and public administration, like.
Speaker 1: You know that serial killers like that stuff, like you.
Speaker 2: Know, like the fun side of healthcare, like epidemiology, like
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. No, but when I was
Speaker 2: going for my degree, we worked at a hospital in
Speaker 2: clinical side, working as a phlebotomist, love the patient, interactive
Speaker 2: in interaction. Then I left that to go into the
Speaker 2: admin's side. He did it. Yeah, Like it was just
Speaker 2: like I remember sitting at a desk going this is not.
Speaker 1: For me, well, not enough face to face was action.
Speaker 2: It was boring, boring, It was really boring. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Like I worked to get like so
Speaker 2: hard to get this degree, And.
Speaker 1: Do you get bored easily? Like is that part of
Speaker 1: your character?
Speaker 2: I can get bored. I like to be busy me too.
Speaker 2: I like to be busy. I don't like to. If
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit and do nothing, I want it to
Speaker 2: be because I want to sit and do nothing, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's your definition of nothing? I bet you're
Speaker 1: like me. My idea of doing nothing is still about
Speaker 1: five times more than what a normal person would do.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Like doing nothing to me would be like this is
Speaker 1: quite literally. Nothing is producing a show, making five loaves
Speaker 1: of sour dough, unpacking the dishwasher, listening to music, discovering
Speaker 1: a new stick of incense. That's nothing. That's me doing nothing.
Speaker 2: Right. For me, doing nothing would be writing a newsletter,
Speaker 2: thinking about what I'm doing on the app. Yeah, meditating
Speaker 2: would be part of that for me. Yeah, working out
Speaker 2: would be part of that for me.
Speaker 1: You have just brought me to my next question. Welcome John,
Speaker 1: this is bizarre. Do you work out?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: So that you stay size medium? I see what I'm
Speaker 1: doing here.
Speaker 2: Yes, I see what you're doing. I work out because
Speaker 2: I want to try to stay as healthy as I
Speaker 2: possibly can, Because I think if I ate the way
Speaker 2: I wanted to eat, I would be seven hundred pounds. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I don't I don't love food, but I love
Speaker 2: the food that I love.
Speaker 1: Yes, meat too. So it's what's your favorite meal, like breakfast, lunch,
Speaker 1: or dinner.
Speaker 2: So my favorite favorite breakfast would be a New York
Speaker 2: Deli egg sandwich, like two scrambled eggs on a buttered
Speaker 2: roll with salt and yum. Every day. I can have
Speaker 2: it every single day.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to make it for you? Now?
Speaker 1: When we the podcast?
Speaker 2: That's my favorite And and it's really funny because if
Speaker 2: you if you come from the New York and you
Speaker 2: come from that place, the eggs have to be made
Speaker 2: in a specific way. It's not scrambled eggs. No, it's
Speaker 2: flat eggs. The eggs are flat.
Speaker 1: It's how I make them folded. They are folded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's my favorite breakfast. But oh my god, I
Speaker 1: want to make it for you so bad, like a
Speaker 1: fretty bad. Will you let me make it for you?
Speaker 1: Fuck you? Jo? John Edward Christy Swan. Do you have
Speaker 1: your steak.
Speaker 2: Medium rare, medium rare, medium rare?
Speaker 1: So you you definitely have the medium in that age, I.
Speaker 2: Do medium rare. You can't do it well done, John
Speaker 2: Edward Christy Swan.
Speaker 1: Do you have any vices?
Speaker 2: Vices.
Speaker 1: Defind vice, I mean, great question back at me, because
Speaker 1: vices are the most underrated hobby. There is something that
Speaker 1: is bad for you, sugar. I've just discovered sour Patch kids.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the work of the sour Patch kid?
Speaker 2: I am. My daughter is a fan of the sour
Speaker 2: Patch kid.
Speaker 1: Mine too.
Speaker 2: Now I'm a chocolate cookie Brownie, Krispy Greame like I
Speaker 2: like bad food.
Speaker 1: See, I wish that I'd known that you love that
Speaker 1: because I make the best cookies ever.
Speaker 2: Chocolate chip y, I make the best chocolate chip Greenshack.
Speaker 1: When are you coming back in the fall? What's that
Speaker 1: in English?
Speaker 2: October November? Your summer?
Speaker 1: When you come back, John Edward, you are going to
Speaker 1: come to my house, okay, And we're not going to
Speaker 1: record anything. It's just going to be you and me
Speaker 1: as friends.
Speaker 2: We're going to eat.
Speaker 1: Are we going to eat?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: You know, there's an Olympic record at steak.
Speaker 2: So being that we're talking about food, let me tell
Speaker 2: you one of my other favorite things to eat. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm I God.
Speaker 1: Will you stay at my house? And when you come back?
Speaker 2: And now, when I'm working, if I'm working, I can't
Speaker 2: stay with people. I got to be in my own
Speaker 2: space and er on.
Speaker 1: The rejection, the rejection sensitivity.
Speaker 2: I will I will come over and we will have
Speaker 2: this as well. We'll make this. It'll be fun and.
Speaker 1: It'll be warm, and we can like wear leisure wear.
Speaker 2: Here's one of my favorite favorite summer meals. Yes, eat
Speaker 2: this every day in the summer. Okay, yes, so peach,
Speaker 2: yes right? Peach?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Cold? M m it sliced yes, Barada or fresh mulsadel yes.
Speaker 1: Okay, then it's like a capreasy salad, but with peach. Bo.
Speaker 2: Wait, you need to have baesel infused olive oil. Yes,
Speaker 2: and a barsal macleays, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: What about bread in there? I like a little bit
Speaker 1: of like greasy bread in there. We can do that,
Speaker 1: and then I can make you that room temperature steak
Speaker 1: as well, medium well.
Speaker 2: With a plastic crop right, yes, I will do that
Speaker 2: for you, and then we can medium rare.
Speaker 1: Yes any, and then we can finish it off with
Speaker 1: the best chocolate chip cookie you've ever had in your life.
Speaker 2: Hard or soft?
Speaker 1: Well, see, I make them to order. If you like
Speaker 1: a hard one, you like a soft one?
Speaker 2: Is it me or this whole a whole other undertone
Speaker 2: going on, I like.
Speaker 1: A hard one, which brings me to my next Am
Speaker 1: I even going to have sex again?
Speaker 2: I'm kind of feeling like a magic epoil right now.
Speaker 2: So it looks promising, does it?
Speaker 1: Couldn't be bothered to be honest, this.
Speaker 2: Is payback for that show.
Speaker 1: I know it very I mean, you know, you know
Speaker 1: the theory of cause and effect. Every every action has
Speaker 1: a reaction.
Speaker 2: John, here's karma for you.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite thing to read? I'm asking you
Speaker 1: these questions because we have known each other for so long,
Speaker 1: but we never get to talk like this.
Speaker 2: So what are my favorite things recently have been? My
Speaker 2: daughter got me back into reading. I wasn't reading for
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: It's magical, isn't it?
Speaker 2: And she's like constantly in a book. Yeah and I
Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, what would you recommend
Speaker 2: that I read? Because when my son was in school,
Speaker 2: I read everything that he was reading with him, and
Speaker 2: then when she was in school I didn't do that
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: You know, who could be bothered with the last ones.
Speaker 2: I was like, let me read with you now, yeah,
Speaker 2: pick a book, and she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: but she like reads these like tomes. I go pick
Speaker 2: a book, not a series. Just give me a book.
Speaker 2: So she gave me The Secret Life of Addie LaRue
Speaker 2: by V. E. Schwab.
Speaker 1: I've heard of that. Someone else's recommended that to me
Speaker 1: and it was really good. Great, Okay, that's a good recommendation.
Speaker 1: Can you put together flat pack furniture?
Speaker 2: I'm not handy.
Speaker 1: That's a shame. I've got a bookshelf I bought off
Speaker 1: Amazon in the front room. I was hoping you could
Speaker 1: whip it together in exchange for some steak and cookie.
Speaker 1: Haunted not Haunted, No, it's not Haunted. It's brand new.
Speaker 1: Are you a tired ass or a spind thrift?
Speaker 2: I look at money as energy, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to see energy stagnant. So I'm going to say you
Speaker 2: spend it, I let it go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do I.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of feel like, you know, one of.
Speaker 1: The saddest character traits I can see in anybody is
Speaker 1: misers and well an obsession with money. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: often go that way.
Speaker 2: My mom died when she was forty eight, and every
Speaker 2: week when she got her paycheck, the first thing that
Speaker 2: she would do was go downtown to a boutique and
Speaker 2: buy clothes for her job, and one of my other
Speaker 2: aunts said to her, why are you spending all your
Speaker 2: money on clothes, and she's like, well, I need it
Speaker 2: for work. And she's like, oh, but you should put it,
Speaker 2: you know, you should put it away for your retirement.
Speaker 2: So the fact that she got a chance to enjoy
Speaker 2: her money and wear it and have in her closet,
Speaker 2: that to me was like, I felt good about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not the bills she left me, but I felt good
Speaker 2: about I felt good about that. But I think it's
Speaker 2: important like not to you know. Robert Brown is a
Speaker 2: medium from London. And one of the things that he
Speaker 2: did once when he came to New York and we
Speaker 2: were doing some group work together, he took a penny
Speaker 2: and he said how much is this worth? And I
Speaker 2: went a penny and then he took it and he
Speaker 2: put it in front of my eye. He goes, can
Speaker 2: you see anything? And I went no. He goes, many
Speaker 2: many people will let something that has very little value
Speaker 2: like money, block their vision, and I just thought it's awesome, awesome,
Speaker 2: awesome analogy.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen people that have had their vision blocked
Speaker 1: so badly by money that they haven't enjoyed their life.
Speaker 1: And it's too late when they realize that they've pulled
Speaker 1: focus on the wrong thing their whole life.
Speaker 2: Nobody's ever come through talking about their fro one k.
Speaker 3: There were their retirement plan, they're super.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's ever come through saying you know this my finances.
Speaker 2: The most important value is the commodity of love and connection.
Speaker 2: That's what they talk about. Yeah, I don't care about
Speaker 2: houses and cars and jewelry and money.
Speaker 1: I feel very fortunate that I've learned that while I'm
Speaker 1: living that connection is everything to me.
Speaker 2: Family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're friends, people, human beings, the true people I
Speaker 1: don't know, people on the street. I just love it.
Speaker 1: I feel so connected to the world.
Speaker 2: Do you have a Trevor.
Speaker 1: I've got an yes, and uncle Trevor.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. The named Trevor's like popping in
Speaker 2: my head as I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1: I was deeply in love with a character played by
Speaker 1: Ben Mendelssohn called Trevor when I was a teenager.
Speaker 2: Is your uncle Trevor still here?
Speaker 1: Yes? He was beautiful. Is uncle Trevor through your dad's side, Yes,
Speaker 1: But he was one of those you know, with the
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, I don't do it that much now.
Speaker 1: But you had uncles that were absolutely not related to you.
Speaker 1: So Uncle Trevor is like a family for we had
Speaker 1: so many Yeah, yeah, Uncle Bob, Bunny Joy. Absolutely no
Speaker 1: blood relatives at all, but you know near enough. Ye
Speaker 1: had beautiful hair.
Speaker 2: Uncle Trevor is your dad best No, So there's something
Speaker 2: about that side of the family, the lung cancer connection
Speaker 2: for you. There's a lung cancer connection around the Trevor vibe.
Speaker 2: Oh so if that's your dad's side of the family,
Speaker 2: that's how I would see that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll have to look into that little sidebar. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I have Trevs all right, Jesus.
Speaker 1: Is there something you always make sure you eat when
Speaker 1: you're in Australia?
Speaker 2: Yes? What I have to see it on the air.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: I love the meat and wine, the meat and wine restaurant.
Speaker 1: The Meat and Wine company.
Speaker 2: Love their love their chicken skewers.
Speaker 1: The curly fries. Excuse me, they do unbelievable fries.
Speaker 2: I like their chips, but they're the skewers are just.
Speaker 1: Are the best, the best. You know, there's one just
Speaker 1: down here. You are, like two hundred meters from a
Speaker 1: meat and wine company. Here are some questions about me. John, Okay,
Speaker 1: tap into whatever the you'l goody boogetie is that you
Speaker 1: can summon. It's the will, it's the wolf. Will belly
Speaker 1: bags ever be cool?
Speaker 2: Coolness really is in the perspective of the person choosing
Speaker 2: to be cool.
Speaker 1: So yes, thank you. Will I ever perfect sour dough bread?
Speaker 2: I think you'll always be reaching for the next loaf?
Speaker 1: Will I ever stop buying containers?
Speaker 2: We could be related with that question how.
Speaker 1: Good are containers? Oh my god, I've got something.
Speaker 2: I love to organize. I like.
Speaker 1: Between that luggage Like I've had a reaction in my
Speaker 1: boobs just hearing thinking about containers and organization.
Speaker 2: I love organizing.
Speaker 1: How I wish I'd known earlier that the key to
Speaker 1: a good life is containers and no clutter. So here's yes,
Speaker 1: I'll be decluttering for two years.
Speaker 2: Here's a way of you know, like understanding and how
Speaker 2: we can tie everything back to energy when you like
Speaker 2: whenever you see people say like, oh, you know, the
Speaker 2: sign of a brilliant mind is the is the chaos
Speaker 2: and the clutter.
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I don't care how brilliant you are. Clutter is a
Speaker 2: blockage yeah, and it's important to unblock your energetic life.
Speaker 2: And in the physical world's physical clutter creates blockage one
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And I find it's as kind of rudimentary as this.
Speaker 1: If I've got something very big to do to work
Speaker 1: on to achieve, you have to clean first. I cannot
Speaker 1: even look at that task until I've cleaned up. Once
Speaker 1: I've cleaned up, it's almost like a physical bang, you know,
Speaker 1: like on the Minority Report, when Tom Cruise pushes the
Speaker 1: screens away. That's it, and I can focus really clearly on.
Speaker 2: What I have to do. So I have a video
Speaker 2: that I because I'm a I'm a German fool, but
Speaker 2: I'm also like a clean freak. Right, So when you
Speaker 2: work in a laboratory, when you work in food service,
Speaker 2: you just have a different perspective when it comes to cleaning.
Speaker 2: So the person that I worked for at the Delhi,
Speaker 2: he was so obsessed. I used to work at a
Speaker 2: Delhi too, obsessed with cleaning. If you were not with
Speaker 2: a client or cooking, you were cleaning. And like, we
Speaker 2: had the cleanest Delli ever. So I was home one night,
Speaker 2: we had we had our family. Friends were over every
Speaker 2: but they left and allegedly everything was cleaned, so of
Speaker 2: course cleaned by one person standard, it's not cleaned by
Speaker 2: my standards. So I was like, how do I demonstrate
Speaker 2: this without sounding like a crazy person. So I took
Speaker 2: my phone and I went, here's what I see. I know,
Speaker 2: here's what everybody sees. And it looked completely clean. And
Speaker 2: then I dropped my phone down to the angle of
Speaker 2: the counter and I go, here's what I see and
Speaker 2: it like little crumb boulders all over the counter that
Speaker 2: people had missed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm that person when it comes to like cleaning
Speaker 2: and organizing and keeping things where they're supposed to be. Like,
Speaker 2: my kids can call me right now and say, hey,
Speaker 2: where's this and I can go second drawer on the
Speaker 2: left because I know where everything is.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is impressive. Also, you are not walking back
Speaker 1: through my house out. Will my kids stay at home
Speaker 1: with me forever and ever? Please? No? How long do
Speaker 1: I have with them?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It depends on how you communicate with them.
Speaker 2: It's all about how you communicate with them.
Speaker 1: I can lock them in the house until they're fifty.
Speaker 1: I love them so much.
Speaker 2: I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, Will I ever find a reliable printer.
Speaker 2: Is there such a thing?
Speaker 1: Maybe not?
Speaker 2: Is there such a thing?
Speaker 1: Fucking hate them?
Speaker 2: John, I mean by t how you buy the toner.
Speaker 2: It's as well by new printer.
Speaker 1: That's so true. Will my car ever be clean inside
Speaker 1: for more than two days?
Speaker 2: No? And eventually you'll have to stop blaming your children.
Speaker 1: Will I regret my purchase of a deep fryer.
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll regret your purchase of a deep friar.
Speaker 2: I think you'll regret the space that your deep frier
Speaker 2: may take up. Where does that live?
Speaker 1: Can't live on the counter, No, it lives away and
Speaker 1: it's splush, is fat everywhere. But my god, do I
Speaker 1: love it?
Speaker 2: No juicer.
Speaker 1: I do have a juicer, and that's always out. And
Speaker 1: also because my wrists are very sore and I'm a
Speaker 1: very old person. Now I've got an electric can opener
Speaker 1: and I cannot recommend it enough.
Speaker 2: There's no need to not have an electric can opener.
Speaker 2: That's like the best. Ever.
Speaker 1: It should be a government like. It's a subsidized thing.
Speaker 2: That's because he worked worked in a deli.
Speaker 1: I was, I was dynamite on that slice. And don't
Speaker 1: you worry me.
Speaker 2: Too, What was the what was your least favorite thing
Speaker 2: that you had a slavehe press worst?
Speaker 1: That was yours?
Speaker 2: Probably the same thing liverworst. Probably it's probably the same exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, liverworst is like, you know, patae, but press worst
Speaker 1: was like, I'm slicing a rubber ball and.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're closing at nine, somebody came in
Speaker 2: at ten to nine, of course they did wanting that.
Speaker 1: Yes you do?
Speaker 2: You know you know that I used to when I
Speaker 2: work the night shift, I would take the mess meats
Speaker 2: and I would do like a half a pound of
Speaker 2: them and it would be done, and then I would
Speaker 2: break down the slicer.
Speaker 1: That's genius.
Speaker 2: And then people would come in and be like, I'll
Speaker 2: have a pound, are you guys? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get totally, totally totally here you go already done.
Speaker 2: But I don't know I was sach. I just thought
Speaker 2: it was being efficient.
Speaker 1: One. I used to work in a supermarket deli, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to pignope myself or anything, but I
Speaker 1: was promoted to chicken roaster on.
Speaker 2: The spit Yes, me too. Did you make them dance?
Speaker 1: Yes? But just when you say what was your worst meat?
Speaker 1: To slice. Nothing was worse than rodding up the chickens.
Speaker 1: I would pull them out of whippins, Yes, and you
Speaker 1: would hold them up and get them on and all
Speaker 1: of that liquid would run down your arm into your arm.
Speaker 2: You have to clean too.
Speaker 1: Yes. Did someone say baked goo?
Speaker 2: Nate? Mare?
Speaker 1: Fuel nightmare?
Speaker 2: And now we're back to food together.
Speaker 1: I know, and you know to use the parlants of
Speaker 1: our times. I'm totally triggered. I've got a it's like
Speaker 1: five or six years old now, but when I bought
Speaker 1: my barbecue, it came with the rotisseriy function, and I
Speaker 1: really I can't. I can't go near it. It's got
Speaker 1: those little I can't do it, too many bad memories.
Speaker 1: And we're at my last question. John Edward, my friend,
Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled to have you hear it in my house.
Speaker 1: It's just like a dream. The last question for you
Speaker 1: look into my eyes, looking deep. I'm going to take
Speaker 1: my glasses off it. Oh yeah, I can stay look
Speaker 1: up big. I print things because I'm blind. Will I
Speaker 1: achieve my dream of living my life in my old
Speaker 1: age in a clean house filled with books, an art
Speaker 1: and a crazy herb garden and just me and lots
Speaker 1: of room for my kids and my friends, and a
Speaker 1: brown velvet cat that doesn't wei inside.
Speaker 2: Not seeing it doesn't mean it can't happen.
Speaker 1: What are you saying?
Speaker 2: I'm just not seeing specifically all of that in one
Speaker 2: little wrapped up bundle. Maybe you don't get the cat.
Speaker 1: The cat's important, Okay, keep the cat. How am I
Speaker 1: going to end up?
Speaker 2: However? You manifest?
Speaker 1: Fucking tell me?
Speaker 2: John, This is where you go back to your astrologer
Speaker 2: and you go part two, progress my chart into the
Speaker 2: future and tell me how I wind up.
Speaker 1: You tell me you've got the U goodie boogerty.
Speaker 2: The woo was not clear on that one.
Speaker 1: How very dare you so?
Speaker 2: No peaches now? Chocolate chips are done?
Speaker 1: No, you still get the peaches and the chocolate chips, okay,
Speaker 1: because they are my favorite. And you can tell me
Speaker 1: when we're not recording what the future is for me.
Speaker 2: Maybe a lesbian lifestyle hea then.
Speaker 1: Absolutely everyone's doing it.
Speaker 2: You never know, John D.
Speaker 1: Would what a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming over,
Speaker 1: and next time there will be cookies and steak and
Speaker 1: peach salad.
Speaker 2: Amen, you're the best. Thanks.
Speaker 1: John Edward is touring Australia again, launching in very late
Speaker 1: October twenty twenty four. Hit him up on his website,
Speaker 1: John Edward dot net and grab some tickets and if
Speaker 1: you go along, maybe dress up as a as a
Speaker 1: spooky wardrobe or something just to really freak him out
Speaker 1: next time. Christy Casters