WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 21 August

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. OHI

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for watching this Wednesday. What a

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<v Speaker 1>show I've got for you tonight. The pettiness of Albo

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<v Speaker 1>is on display every day, but today in particular in

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament it's fight night when it comes to debate time.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Conroy, Bromwin Bishop and the best in the business,

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful Megan Kelly joins us from the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, something that is rare. Let us begin with

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<v Speaker 1>some good news. Now, as we know, September the first

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<v Speaker 1>means the end of winter. But there's a chance. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Bureau, and they always get it right, don't they,

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<v Speaker 1>that next week is going to be a lot warmer

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<v Speaker 1>than it traditionally is some hot August nights. As Neil

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<v Speaker 1>Diamond once Sang will be on their way next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring it on. You know that Super Cuty, the teenage

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<v Speaker 1>Australian who won gold at the Olympic Games. And after

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<v Speaker 1>winning gold at the Olympic Games in skateboarding, all she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted was a duck.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to ask for my parents if I like one,

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<v Speaker 2>was if I could get a pet duck, because duck's

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<v Speaker 2>a really cute, and I really wanted a pet duck.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks to the good people, the breakfast team of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire radio station of Triple Him on the Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Coast today she got a duck. Oh you want a duck.

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<v Speaker 3>So we thought you'll bring you some ducks.

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<v Speaker 4>Holy duck, there's more duck.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we know you're not allowed to keep a duck

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<v Speaker 5>right now because you're about to head on bods, No.

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<v Speaker 6>One of these you're putting the overhead locker.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you want to duck?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've been wanting one since I was like really

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<v Speaker 2>younger and then they're really cute and I just love animals.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you it was good news. My thoughts are

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<v Speaker 1>with who have has to clean that studio? Well, anyway, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>The third bit of good news is Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing back. There's lots of different bits of data, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's also a pep in this step. Let me explain now,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know, we love the dancing Donald, but

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<v Speaker 1>the dancing Donald hasn't been around for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, getting shot at might slightly change you. But

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, the Democratic National Committee is taking place

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak. A giant advertorial, a giant yawn a giant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what surprise surprise. Barack Obama says, hopes back, and

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Obama says, Trump's racist blah blah blah. But frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing has really I mean, these people are now

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<v Speaker 1>so arrogant, so arrogant that they think they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>slam dunk this thing that they're now basically doing I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>dick jokes and making references that they hope that the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican vice presidential candidate someone in his family gets raped.

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<v Speaker 1>This weird obsession with crowd sizes Jennie Vance calls pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>resulting from rape inconvenient.

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<v Speaker 3>Inconvenience is traffic.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it is me to go through this.

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<v Speaker 1>These people are sick. What the suggestion that his wife

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<v Speaker 1>or his kids or somebody is just that's as low

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<v Speaker 1>as they are, right. Oh, but they're the compassionate people,

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<v Speaker 1>the joyful people, the freedom people, the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>all United police. These are dirty players like anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>in politics, but this particular generation of people running the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party as dirty as they have ever been. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>they were ruthless enough to get rid of a president,

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<v Speaker 1>not because he was melting before all of our eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>but because he wasn't going to win and power is

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<v Speaker 1>more important than principle, despite the fact that, of course

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<v Speaker 1>they always say principle is more important. But also for

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<v Speaker 1>the media, it's an opportunity for them to basically hang

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<v Speaker 1>with their mates. This is a home game. This is

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<v Speaker 1>then covering their favorite football team going into a Grand final.

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<v Speaker 7>The Democrats should be congratulated for this night.

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<v Speaker 1>It was well produced. It's done the impossible every time

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<v Speaker 1>because he's been great every time and then finds a

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<v Speaker 1>way to be great again. That's different. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best conventions and speeches I've ever seen by anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in any circumstance. Yawn. But guess what. The numbers don't lie,

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<v Speaker 1>and fewer people are watching this one than the last

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<v Speaker 1>time because of course, COVID meant they had to keep

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<v Speaker 1>Joe in the basement, which meant no convention in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So with let's compare it to twenty sixteen, twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>watch on the first night, great cool, thirty something minion

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<v Speaker 1>watch a football game, thirty something medi inm watch the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a good number. It's not amazing, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is down. It's DOWND by almost a quarter when Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>was the absolute golden child of presidential politics. But talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the low road, and I'll get to the good news,

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<v Speaker 1>but the low road that these people take on their

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<v Speaker 1>way to saying vote for us because we're better people.

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<v Speaker 1>In one of the many hype videos about how evil

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<v Speaker 1>and ugabuger Donald Trump is, there was this reference to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, there you go. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>miss it? Just a little clip? Oh, there he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was associated with Jeffrey Epstein. And remember evil, awful

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein. Well, what I find particularly despicable about this

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<v Speaker 1>is that if any proximity to Jeffrey Epstein, knowing or

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<v Speaker 1>unknowing to the other behaviors happening in Jeffrey Epstein's life

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<v Speaker 1>is a reason why someone should certainly not be the president,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly gets put into the bad person category. Could

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<v Speaker 1>somebody explain to me how a bloke who didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>fly on Jeffrey Epstein's plane the low lead to express

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<v Speaker 1>but according to people who worked there, he went to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein's Ireland. Bill Clinton is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>major speaker in the next twenty four hours. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a disgrace what they forgive when it comes to this bloke.

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<v Speaker 1>Meghan Kelly on that and a lot more in a set.

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<v Speaker 8>To me, this is so stupid, especially when you have

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<v Speaker 8>Kamala Harris running on. I know the sexual predator type.

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<v Speaker 8>Trust me, when I see Donald Trump, I've dealt with

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<v Speaker 8>his tape before. You're having his type speak at your

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<v Speaker 8>convention on Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing its sister, Seeing its sister, It is amazing the

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<v Speaker 1>free passes that they give themselves while turning around and

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<v Speaker 1>plant claiming that the people who have done far less

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<v Speaker 1>than they have done are of course the evil, awful deplorables,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, etc. So what did I say today? The

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<v Speaker 1>third part of the good news was what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>and around Trump? Now, Yes, we meet here in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of August. There are many weeks, many months before

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<v Speaker 1>the presidential election formally takes place. The first Tuesday in

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<v Speaker 1>November will be in the United States when that takes place. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because the old Trump seems to be back, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that's very quick on his feet. You see, while

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing the dick jokes today at the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>National Committee, he was going to places to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>law and order because for a huge number of Americans

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<v Speaker 1>it's the number one issue. It's certainly something that has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten worse under Democrat control, as governors or people like

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris try to bail people out after getting involved

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<v Speaker 1>in riots. But what is amazing is how they tried

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<v Speaker 1>to make it seem like this wasn't an event about

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<v Speaker 1>law and order, it was an event about white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 1>The Reuters News agency was the one who decided to

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<v Speaker 1>run with this that Trump pushes tough on crime agenda

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<v Speaker 1>with town with historic links to white extremism. The suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>that Howell in Michigan, which way back when had some connection,

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<v Speaker 1>if not was very significant connection to the KKK. That

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<v Speaker 1>there's a secret message being sent through the television. So

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<v Speaker 1>somebody decided to ask Donald Trump about this very thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and Donald had perhaps the best answer he has had

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<v Speaker 1>all year, and spiking the ball right back down the

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<v Speaker 1>throat of the regime media that are trying to pretend

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<v Speaker 1>that an announcement about law and order is secretly about

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<v Speaker 1>the KKK. This was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for.

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<v Speaker 9>This who was here in twenty twenty one, Thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Thank you everybody, that's what we want. Boom. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not just the only reason why those of us

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<v Speaker 1>would like to see Trump win Harris lose. Are feeling

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<v Speaker 1>a little better tonight than maybe even twenty four hours ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what will be in a week's time. I

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<v Speaker 1>know there are plenty of people on the incidet who

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<v Speaker 1>sort of take the little thing and say, see they

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<v Speaker 1>were wrong on this. No middle of August. Who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening tomorrow, But tonight, according to the bookies, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>used to be way up in terms of the chance

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<v Speaker 1>of winning the presidency when it was Biden, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he went well, way down, but certainly under fifty percent. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently what Kamala Harris is being embraced by all and sundry.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what is happening. The money is moving Trump's way

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<v Speaker 1>now again, anything below say fifty five or above fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five is a coin toss, But the coin toss at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage tonight would fall Trump's way. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary because I went looking for hang on, well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence here? Did you? Some Republican billionaire put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money on to try to change the odds,

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<v Speaker 1>to change the narrative people do that stuff. Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say let's have a look at the key states

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<v Speaker 1>that matter, those swing states. Now, remember, essentially, for Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to win, he's got a win Pennsylvania, He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>win Georgia, he's got to win Arizona. It'd be nice

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<v Speaker 1>to have Nevada. Now, the most recent five poles in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Pennsylvania, they go from Harris having a

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<v Speaker 1>big lead to Trump having a little lead and holding it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's multiple poles in a row, all taken last weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>What about in Georgia were either it was a tie,

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<v Speaker 1>Harris a little bit up, Trump a lot up, back

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<v Speaker 1>to a tie, and then the lefty New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>pole says that Trump is back way up in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>When Harris had just taken over there, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little lead for her at two points, but then Trump

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<v Speaker 1>up by three, up three, and yes, not up by much,

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<v Speaker 1>but still up by one in Arizona. So Nevada again,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these poles since the change of candidate. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Harris up by two, but then it was Trump

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<v Speaker 1>by three, Trump by three, and then Trump by one.

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<v Speaker 1>So again we are where we are tonight right now,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting together on the twenty first of August Australian Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Standard time. But the bookies say that he is a

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<v Speaker 1>slight favorite to win the pole. Show how he could

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<v Speaker 1>do it. His attitude today in front of the reporters

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy who people fell in love with in

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<v Speaker 1>Siek and thought so hard for in twenty twenty. But

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<v Speaker 1>there may be a huge boost which is bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>the money and bigger than the polls. Rfk Jor originally

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<v Speaker 1>a lifelong Democrat who at one point tried to take

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<v Speaker 1>on Joe Biden, but essentially they, according to him, rigged

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<v Speaker 1>the primary, so he was pushed aside. He ended up

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<v Speaker 1>running as an independent. He's had great difficulties getting onto

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<v Speaker 1>as many state ballots as possible. The Democrats to this

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<v Speaker 1>very minute are trying to sue to get him off.

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<v Speaker 1>But his vice presidential pick did a podcast in the

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<v Speaker 1>past twenty four hours and she's now saying we have

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<v Speaker 1>two options. One we stay in the race Harris could win,

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<v Speaker 1>or we get out and we backed Trump and we

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<v Speaker 1>beat Harris.

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<v Speaker 10>There's two options that we're looking at, and one is

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<v Speaker 10>staying in forming that new party, but we run the

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<v Speaker 10>risk of a Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris and Waltz presidency

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<v Speaker 10>because we draw votes from Trump, or we draw some

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<v Speaker 10>how more votes from Trump, or we walk away right

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<v Speaker 10>now and join forces with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Now without boring him and showing you too much of

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<v Speaker 1>the detail. When Biden was the candidate, basically two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>of the support for Kennedy was Democrats. When there was

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<v Speaker 1>a change to Harris, most of those people started to

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<v Speaker 1>go back towards the Democrats, and that's how she got

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<v Speaker 1>into a position of being slightly above, slightly below, but

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<v Speaker 1>basically back where the generic Team Blue was. So currently

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy has about again two thirds of support that traditionally

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<v Speaker 1>would come from Trump, one third left from the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>So in races that are down to one or two points,

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<v Speaker 1>five points up for grab in Arizona, four in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>six in Michigan, five in Nevada, four in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>if it followed that sixty forty split, it would put

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<v Speaker 1>Trump not just a little in the lead, but way

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<v Speaker 1>back in the lead. Not as full on as he

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<v Speaker 1>was when it was Biden, but we would be back

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<v Speaker 1>to a race where Trump was in front and it

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<v Speaker 1>was still Trump's to lose as opposed to what we

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<v Speaker 1>are being told day in, day out, narrative, narrative, narrative

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<v Speaker 1>because hardcore Democrats all decided to meet in one room

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<v Speaker 1>for four days, that that's three hundred million Americans. It ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>And while fewer people may be watching it on television,

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of other people will be watching it online. But

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<v Speaker 1>those people too, by their millions, watching Trump doing interviews

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place, and they are waiting potentially to

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<v Speaker 1>see Robert Kennedy give them the green light to back Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the case, it's not just game on. Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>back in the lead. But it is the middle of August.

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<v Speaker 1>We will all wait and see what happens. Megan Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>in a few minutes time back here though, Oh the Teals, look,

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<v Speaker 1>spare me the teal tears. Okay, now you may well

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<v Speaker 1>have seen in the past twenty four hours, Treaty Macintosh

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<v Speaker 1>from our Canbe Bureau went and had a look at

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<v Speaker 1>how often the Teals end up voting with the Greens

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<v Speaker 1>in the Parliament. Unsurprisingly, for a lot of them, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Your voting record is those Tom's pointed out sixty six

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<v Speaker 5>percent on coalition motions Labor fifty two, Greens thirty. It

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<v Speaker 5>was quite different than some of the other cross benches.

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<v Speaker 5>Sophi Scomps, she was the highest amongst teals voting with

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<v Speaker 5>the Greens motions.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see, with the exception of Rebecca Sharky, who

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<v Speaker 1>is not a teal, the rest of them were in

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<v Speaker 1>the high fifties or the low sixties, or even some

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid sixties. So when that story was out

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<v Speaker 1>and about to stop it from being able to be

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<v Speaker 1>yet another truth about the cashed up Greens who pretend

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<v Speaker 1>to be former Liberals despite the factor by their own

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<v Speaker 1>admission they very rarely, if ever, have voted for the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party in the past few years, that they are

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<v Speaker 1>the place for the disaffected Liberals to come. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>new face on the Greens, another option on the left. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>today the tears were out and about trying to change

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<v Speaker 1>the subject from their voting record, and much of the

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<v Speaker 1>media help them do this because they were out and

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<v Speaker 1>about talking about just how tough and terrible parliament is,

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<v Speaker 1>about how awful and evil and adversarial and yelly and

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<v Speaker 1>code blokey Parliament is.

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<v Speaker 6>Mister Dutton recently name calling labeling denigrating words in the

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<v Speaker 6>media is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>To call colleagues idiots is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm told I need to toughen up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 6>And as others have said, some who have been in

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<v Speaker 6>this place too long, who I think have lost touch

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<v Speaker 6>with what is acceptable behavior outside this place, and think

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<v Speaker 6>that because you describe this place as a bubble, somehow

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<v Speaker 6>it condones a different standed of behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't please. This passive aggressive garbage works because there

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<v Speaker 1>are plenty of people inside the media who want politics

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<v Speaker 1>to look a lot more like the Teals than it

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<v Speaker 1>currently does with the Liberal Party or the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 1>or anyone else. But the reality is that Australia does

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<v Speaker 1>not think like the Teals all right, It just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>now the parts of Australia that they represent, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that pretty much they line up and most likely

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<v Speaker 1>will back them at the next federal election. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme majority of Australians who do not live in

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<v Speaker 1>those parts of Australia, we have a different view of

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<v Speaker 1>their new cool brand of politics, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>when they want to, it's okay if they yell in

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<v Speaker 1>the Parliament or they abuse people in the parliament.

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<v Speaker 3>Put your masks on from repeated infection. Order we hurt

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<v Speaker 3>you in silence.

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<v Speaker 6>You can hear me in silence.

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<v Speaker 1>Order stop being racing. Seriously, Jane him who's doing her

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<v Speaker 1>best to try to take on the Teals, particularly in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be hard to move because they they are of

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<v Speaker 1>the left. Much of Victoria increasingly, certainly the wealthier bits

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<v Speaker 1>is of the left. She calls it exactly as I do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is this is a stunt. This is garbage, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the proof of why it's garbage.

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<v Speaker 11>Next, we should make sure that this is one safe

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<v Speaker 11>space where you can have as robust debate as you need,

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<v Speaker 11>because that's what the country deserves. This sounds to me

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<v Speaker 11>like a political stunt, potentially done for electoral convenience because

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<v Speaker 11>the Teals have run out of an agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>Good work, Love you, l J. But the real reason

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<v Speaker 1>they ended up talking about this today, apart from changing

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<v Speaker 1>the subject on how they're actually voting and whom they

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<v Speaker 1>are voting within the Parliament, is that the government is

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<v Speaker 1>already addressing parliamentary behavior. In fact, they have introduced a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of legislation to the Parliament this week about the

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<v Speaker 1>standards of Parliament. So they're either trying to pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>because of us they've brought this legislation in, or they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pretend here's the problem, and then magically we

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<v Speaker 1>get to own the solution. Federal MPs could be fined

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<v Speaker 1>up to five percent of their salary and kicked off

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<v Speaker 1>powerful parliamentary committees and even suspended from Parliament on new

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<v Speaker 1>laws to be introduced by the federal government. These codes

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<v Speaker 1>set out expectations for behavior, including requirements to foster respectful

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<v Speaker 1>and inclusive workplaces and a prohibition on bullying, harassment, sexual harassment,

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<v Speaker 1>and assault and discrimination. Okay, fine, no one has a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with any of that. Now. This is of course,

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<v Speaker 1>not about what happens in question time, not about what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in parliamentary debate. It's about what happens behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the offices. And of course, as we

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<v Speaker 1>have shown you, while the left and dominant and narrative

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<v Speaker 1>and access medias would all like to pretend it's, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all one party with a problem, there was, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>at the very height of all things to do with

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening behind the scenes in parliament. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, a bunch of brave women I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was fifty five of them who came forward to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the culture ins either Labor party.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, no one lost their job, no one followed up,

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<v Speaker 1>There was no special four corners investigation on all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the laws had been put in place the

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<v Speaker 1>governor is now wanting for the workplace, there would be many,

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<v Speaker 1>many current and former labor MPs that may will find

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<v Speaker 1>themselves on the wrong side of this. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say current or former, because we've never been told whether

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty five staffers were talking about people who are

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<v Speaker 1>in the Parliament now or formerly, how high in the

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<v Speaker 1>ranks or how lowly in the backbenches. But remember they

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<v Speaker 1>said this. He is a man who punches the wall

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<v Speaker 1>next to a female staffer's head, calling her when she

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<v Speaker 1>passes news on that he doesn't want to hear. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a man who calls his female colleague a pig

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<v Speaker 1>dog when she disagrees with him, and says in front

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<v Speaker 1>of all of the staff, that's why no one wants

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<v Speaker 1>to He is a married man who plied a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman with drinks until she had no idea what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>He promised others at the gathering that he would get

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<v Speaker 1>her home safely, but before putting her into a cab,

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<v Speaker 1>he had sex with her with no ability to consent. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it interesting that the Teals, of course, want to

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<v Speaker 1>pretend for all of the reasons, which is, we exist

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<v Speaker 1>because we are what the Liberal Party could and should be,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that generally speaking, most of their voters

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<v Speaker 1>of people have never voted Liberal in their life. Zally Stagger,

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<v Speaker 1>by her own admission, had said that she had not

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<v Speaker 1>voted Liberal in all the time that she had been

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<v Speaker 1>in the electorate, which meant she didn't even vote for

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Turnbull when she had the opportunity. Well, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way they get into Parliament is with the

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<v Speaker 1>preferences of Greens and Labor. You see, if you actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a look, there are some of the Teals which

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<v Speaker 1>have a primary vote which is in the forties. Those

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<v Speaker 1>people are, in terms of the results, people who have

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<v Speaker 1>got a strong claim to being somebody who truly represents

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<v Speaker 1>a movement in their electorate. Otherwise it's a maths game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the seat of North City is about to disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a quarter of people actually voted for the Teal

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<v Speaker 1>less than thirty percent, for the one in Western Australia

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<v Speaker 1>just over a third of people in the seat of

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<v Speaker 1>Goldstein and in Wentworth again just over a third. So

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<v Speaker 1>they will take the preferences of the people whose former staffers,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five of which have listed all of their behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>They stay in a media cycle by pretending that it's

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<v Speaker 1>only a Liberal Party problem because there is a media

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<v Speaker 1>that wants to push that narrative. Why because the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party has a problem with women. Why do they want

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<v Speaker 1>to push that narrative right now? Because in the two

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<v Speaker 1>party preferred right now in the polls, more women are

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<v Speaker 1>backing the Liberal Party than the Labor Party. Olbo has

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<v Speaker 1>been all over the place for the past couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks in parliament. Now I don't know what he assumed

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<v Speaker 1>this two weeks was going to be about. But Australians well,

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<v Speaker 1>so many have had enough. It's no surprise that I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had stocked for this bloke. And now, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the resolved political monitor in the City Morning Herald, the Age,

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<v Speaker 1>Brisbane Times, all the other nine years papers, fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of Australian So the Prime Minister's performance is poor

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<v Speaker 1>or very poor. Only a third of the country says

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<v Speaker 1>good or very good. Perfect example about how this Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister gets things wrong but also likes to rub the

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<v Speaker 1>noses in it of the people who dare stand in

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<v Speaker 1>his way was an event last night in Canberra, a

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<v Speaker 1>black tie event allegedly in support in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister's attendance of the agriculture We decided to make

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<v Speaker 1>a joke making reference to a decision that his own

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<v Speaker 1>government had made that is going to bankrupt people in agriculture,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in Western Australia. I'm talking, of course about the

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<v Speaker 1>ban on live exports, huge issue in Western Australia, so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that even the Teal in Western Australia who

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<v Speaker 1>was for it is now against it. Western Australian farmers

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<v Speaker 1>are mighty pissed. And remember this is a government which

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<v Speaker 1>is staring down the barrel of a minority government. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they're able to move a lot of seats in

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia, they're going to need an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people on the cross bench to stay in power. The

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<v Speaker 1>farmers have promised they are going to fight and fight

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<v Speaker 1>like Helen as well they should, so understandably, there were

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<v Speaker 1>people who were deeply offended by a Prime minister who

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<v Speaker 1>stood up in front of some of them just last

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<v Speaker 1>night and made a joke that rubbed their nose in

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<v Speaker 1>their businesses being canceled.

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<v Speaker 12>When we had been a beautiful Australian beef. Are not

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<v Speaker 12>the live expert. We've made sure it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was dead, Yeah, we made sure it was Yeah. We know.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw the vote and the farmers are fired up

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<v Speaker 1>and even the teal who was for it is now

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<v Speaker 1>against it. There is a great fear about what politically

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to mean in Western Australia watch this space.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's there in the little bubble, protected by so

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<v Speaker 1>many others who think doesn't matter, mate, no matter what happens,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll still be the PM. Sure to be a minority government,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't worry. Lives no chance, lives no path. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course in question time this bloke is nowhere to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen on the fundamental issues right now about the

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<v Speaker 1>vetting that goes into the types of people that come

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<v Speaker 1>into the country and from where they come. Question of

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<v Speaker 1>the question of the question, clear answer after answer after answer.

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<v Speaker 1>P week, Will the Prime ministers admit that this visa

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<v Speaker 1>for Volte scheme was only done to shore up votes

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<v Speaker 1>in the seats of Watson, McMahon and Black. Slam It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't this go to his true character?

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<v Speaker 7>Mister, Why is Australia heading our tourist visits to gardens

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<v Speaker 7>from the terrace controlled warzone in an average of twenty

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<v Speaker 7>four hours and in some cases as quickly as one hour,

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<v Speaker 7>while bypassing all the usual checks, including those the former

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<v Speaker 7>coalition government used in Syria? Will the Prime mister admit

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<v Speaker 7>that the government's visa for vote scheme was only done

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<v Speaker 7>the shore up boats and the seats of Watson, McMahon

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<v Speaker 7>and Blacks.

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<v Speaker 1>This arrogant, clueless, weak and rattled Prime Minister is now

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<v Speaker 1>breaking glass in case of emergency. Like all governments when

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<v Speaker 1>they have no defense, he trots out exactly what they

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<v Speaker 1>always trot.

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<v Speaker 12>Out under visited versus from when they were in government,

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<v Speaker 12>as the previous government did under the previous government.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we won't talk about our responsibility, our systems, our choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's find a way to pretend that somehow it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party's fault. What's happening right now?

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<v Speaker 12>And Mark Riley is also report on Channel seven that

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<v Speaker 12>Hamas didn't take over the occupied Palestinian territories in the

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<v Speaker 12>Gaza Strip since October seven. They are actually there beforehand

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<v Speaker 12>when those opposite were granting eight thousand a thousand visitor

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<v Speaker 12>visas from people from the occupied Palestinian territories.

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<v Speaker 1>The arrogance of this bloke always on display and again

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pretend nothing to see here when there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>to see here in what Australian sea they don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>No wonder fifty one percent of the country very poor

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<v Speaker 1>when it.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes to that bloke.

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<v Speaker 1>As we foreshadowed last night, it did big decisions about

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<v Speaker 1>to be made when it comes to aged care, where

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<v Speaker 1>more people are going to have to pay more of

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<v Speaker 1>their own money, principally to stay in their own home.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to home care, all yes to go

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<v Speaker 1>into aage care facilities. Excellent reporting which has been done

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<v Speaker 1>in the Financial Review over many months here is worth

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<v Speaker 1>referring to. With Philip Koree in particular. Remember he told

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<v Speaker 1>you that this was due to come in January, then

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<v Speaker 1>got delayed. Well, he's got some of the details of

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<v Speaker 1>the negotiations happening inside the Financial Review. Was revealed that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the proposals put to the Opposition during their

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<v Speaker 1>negotiations was to lift the lifetime contributions cap for residential

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<v Speaker 1>care from the current level of seventy six to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety thousand. So the most you'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay seventy six thousand, and well that would go up

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and ninety thousand. The cap would be

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<v Speaker 1>abolished all together for home care, meaning there would be

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<v Speaker 1>no limit on how much you may have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>to try to stay in your home. And remember half

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<v Speaker 1>of four people with access to age care receive it

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<v Speaker 1>in the home via the home option. The Coalition balked

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<v Speaker 1>at the idea. It's understood the government has wound some

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<v Speaker 1>of these changes back significantly to secure a deal, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what that number is. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who this applies to. Watch and see huge story developing

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak right now in Camber. Don't be distracted

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<v Speaker 1>by there or anyone else's bs. Another thing this week

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<v Speaker 1>has been again the government making curious decisions, but we

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<v Speaker 1>all know why they're making certain decisions. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>gold mine which was due to start in New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course the discovery of sacred sites in and

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<v Speaker 1>around this area meant that of course it was knocked

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<v Speaker 1>on the head. But a site that is almost ten

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<v Speaker 1>times the size of this has been approved. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how when the map that is currently in

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<v Speaker 1>the Museum of Australia that shows us the indigenous nations

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<v Speaker 1>all prior to why arrival seventeen seventy would suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a part of the country that does not

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of emotional or sacred connection. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to put solar panels on land, that will

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<v Speaker 1>be the best part of what ten times more, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's completely okay by this government. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a gold mine and part of the gold mine

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<v Speaker 1>may have some disruption to part of the water flow

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<v Speaker 1>and are not acceptable if it has too many cables

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<v Speaker 1>connected to it. Not acceptable if you want to put

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<v Speaker 1>a giant solar farm in the middle of the Northern Territory,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what a bidin there is asking you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, Dick. The development of the area of the

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<v Speaker 1>Nissawa's mind was about eleven hundred hectares, it's eleven kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>and that was significant aboriginal area. But the sun cable

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand hectare or one hundred and twenty kilometer solar

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<v Speaker 1>farm apparently will not disturb any cultural so do we

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<v Speaker 1>have to look at the map again. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to get to, including MP's behavior, teal tears, and

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in America. Lots to get to. Fight

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<v Speaker 1>Night begins next with Bromin, Bishop and Stephen Conroy. Then

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Kelly, I'm glad you're watching. Don't go anywhere. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna love Tonight show? All right, Fight Night, Wednesday Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get just to night. You took your distance back.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Let's get into it right now. Carry

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<v Speaker 1>over Champ as always is Bromwin, Bishop and in the

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<v Speaker 1>other court and other than the man who's just here

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<v Speaker 1>to help, which is why he's in Canberra trying to

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<v Speaker 1>write their best gags he can for Anthony Alberanezi at

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<v Speaker 1>agricultural events is none other than the onond of all

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Conroy. So let's get into the visa fight here

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<v Speaker 1>where Bromwin, it is amazing that the government is on

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<v Speaker 1>the stickiest of sticky paper here. It is by their

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<v Speaker 1>own actions they have not found the way to pivot

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<v Speaker 1>like we have talked about in the parts a week

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<v Speaker 1>or so where the Libs have been able to get

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent about vetting instead. Literally today in question

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<v Speaker 1>time it was all I know you are, but what

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<v Speaker 1>am I?

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<v Speaker 13>Unfortunately, what is happening here is that Albanezi and his ministers,

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<v Speaker 13>who are under threat at risk, are prepared to sacrifice

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<v Speaker 13>the strata's security and proper vetting for votes and that

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<v Speaker 13>is despicable, quite frankly.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're in a scenario where what's the number, but

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<v Speaker 1>the seven thousand have been rejected but the government accepted,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's it. But the government tries to turn around

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<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, that process works. But as they admitted today,

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<v Speaker 1>the process that is playing out is hardly the highest

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<v Speaker 1>possible bar to get people into the country.

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<v Speaker 13>They don't want the HASSLVA. They want the quickest way

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<v Speaker 13>they can get in there to meet the demands of

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<v Speaker 13>the leaders of the Muslim vote movement so that they

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<v Speaker 13>can and hopefully get their second preferences. I guess where

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<v Speaker 13>they're running candidates or not to run and them.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Stephen, the issue is is that even if you

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<v Speaker 1>would disagree with every word that Robin has just said,

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<v Speaker 1>Australia is taking a seemingly disproportionate number of people from

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<v Speaker 1>guards are compared to other countries. Now, there are reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why the Arab League has made the decisions it has

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<v Speaker 1>about the countries in and around, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>places like Spain, the UK, the US, our number is

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<v Speaker 1>way higher and it feels like the government is on

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<v Speaker 1>the stickiest of sticky paper. Why can't they get off it?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, firstly, not surprising. I don't agree with any of

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<v Speaker 14>the quite frankly wildly rabid suggestions logical.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing logical.

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<v Speaker 14>Contribution, you have no facts, you have no acts to

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<v Speaker 14>support a.

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<v Speaker 1>Single We've seen in the Parliament every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Rabbit opinion, your rabbit opinion. So just to move on

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<v Speaker 3>for a.

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<v Speaker 1>So why can't they get conversation help?

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<v Speaker 14>Look, they've been the government have wanted to and I

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<v Speaker 14>think firstly, Peter up and I think has correctly just

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<v Speaker 14>slightly walked back when he addressed his room meeting this week.

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<v Speaker 14>So I think that was the correct decision. You and

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<v Speaker 14>I talked about that last week. So I think he's

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<v Speaker 14>taken away the major boneus contention around where he went.

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<v Speaker 14>Now we're down a question of the visa processing and

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<v Speaker 14>whether or not the government have been too fast. So

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<v Speaker 14>the government have rightly said we are prepared to take

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<v Speaker 14>some refugees. We're not taking tens of thousands were I've

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<v Speaker 14>not been critical of the size or the lack of size.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm not passing judgment on that, but they've made the decision.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some citizens who of Gaza who should be.

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<v Speaker 14>Able to come to Australia, and now part of the

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<v Speaker 14>exit process is that they seek the government seeks advice

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<v Speaker 14>from the Israeli government, and nobody gets through without the

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<v Speaker 14>Israeli government, and their process is giving some advice to

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<v Speaker 14>our government because by definition we're not on the ground,

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 14>so we turn to the people who perhaps would know

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<v Speaker 14>the best, which is the Israeli government. So the people

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<v Speaker 14>that have made it through some of the process have

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<v Speaker 14>also made it through an Israeli government.

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<v Speaker 1>Vet. But what the fashion that you just have, because

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<v Speaker 1>again it feels like they don't want to say something

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>around this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I.

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 14>Haven't watched Question Time today, I haven't seen where where

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 14>the debate moved to.

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<v Speaker 3>But those are just the facts.

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<v Speaker 14>This idea that's been put forward by the coalition that

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 14>purely and simply they're.

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 3>Just opening the door letting them all in.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, firstly, quite I think the majority haven't even made

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 14>it into the country. Some have correctly been rejected, and

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<v Speaker 14>I think that was at seven thousand, the number that

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<v Speaker 14>you said seven thousand have been rejected.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is not some free for all. There is

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<v Speaker 3>a betting process.

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<v Speaker 13>That was admitted today Paul, that much of it is automated.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not correct, it's not it's not the.

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<v Speaker 13>Traditional proper vetting that has gone on historically. And basically

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<v Speaker 13>they've been given tourist visas not to come and look

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 13>at thee the Opera house unless it was to look

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 13>at the place where the riots took place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and and the government's own admission is because that's

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<v Speaker 1>a faster process, but that's not a tourist visa is.

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<v Speaker 13>Not in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Is interesting, correct.

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<v Speaker 13>So the reason is you're asking why are they're on

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 13>the sticky PA is because there's a cover up going on.

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 13>Percent there's stuff they simply don't either admit to or

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 13>disclosed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because Stephen to me again, right, if the Prime

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Minister believes that everything that is being done is the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do, give a speech, walk out in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a press conference and go all right, here's

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>how this works everyone. Let me explain the process. All right,

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>here's the flow chart from here to here to here

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<v Speaker 1>to here to hear. None of that's a state secret because,

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>as you say, some of that information being shared with

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>with other countries, other processes. Then turning around and say,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, about a meeting with this bloke, that bloke,

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<v Speaker 1>that person to work out how to make sure that

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's the safest process possible. But he's not doing that,

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.879
<v Speaker 1>and that's because he's surrounded by a bunch of people,

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<v Speaker 1>including the people that report on this, who are all saying, mate,

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's only a Sky News primetime thing. No

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>normal person seeing this. You and I both know plenty

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of normal people. Plenty of normal people see this one.

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<v Speaker 11>No.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean this is This is an issue which has

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 14>caused Labor in the past significant electoral damage, and so

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<v Speaker 14>finding the best way through is what Labor is attempting

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<v Speaker 14>at the moment now. As you know, Paul, in the past,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 14>I've been very critical of key officials who work inside

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 14>Home Affairs and immigration, and my understanding is this will

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 14>quite a shock, is they haven't actually known the answer

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 14>to a range of these questions. So one of the

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 14>dangers if you're a politician, is if the Department gives

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 14>you wrong or partially correct or accidentally wrong.

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Information, and it can be any of the above.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 14>And the Minister goes out and gives a sort of

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 14>speech that you're given Well, the consequences because of the

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 14>Department has given you incorrect information are quite severe for

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 14>the minister.

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 13>Are you and really suggesting the department setting him up?

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Saying the Department don't.

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Come off it. They should be able to know.

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 14>Perhaps you didn't know, Paul, I repeat my understanding from

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 14>behind the scenes is the Department haven't known all these answers,

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<v Speaker 14>and so it is very dangerous to mislead Parliament and

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:07.720
<v Speaker 14>it is very.

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<v Speaker 1>Way happen. Yeah, all right, Okay, there's other stuff and

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm not shutting it off, so please don't send

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>me that complain emails. I just want to get to

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>other stuff as well on top of this before we

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>get to meet and Kelly, we just happen to have

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a former Speaker of the House here, We happen to

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>have a significant combatant from the labor side when it

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>comes to the Senate, right, the MP behavior stuff trying

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to essentially make an MP responsible for everything that happens

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>inside their office because to some degree they are a

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>boss of all of those people, yet they don't necessarily

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.879
<v Speaker 1>employ them because it's the finance to part up all

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. We know it's going to happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>I for the Libs vote against us, then they're voting

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>for the horrible thing, so most likely they're going to

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 1>wigh this thing through. How do you think this works

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>in practice? Because if somebody complains to the person who

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't actually about the behavior of the person who doesn't

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 1>actually pay them, and it's a one judge panel, that's

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>most likely going to find on the side of the

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>complainert and you end up with a red card career

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<v Speaker 1>over right.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, it's very curious, I think to combine members and

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<v Speaker 13>senators together with non members and senators in the same organization.

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<v Speaker 13>There is the Privileges Act, and it's a very serious

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<v Speaker 13>privileges process is a very serious process, and that's where

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<v Speaker 13>if a complaint is made, it's up to the presiding

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<v Speaker 13>officer in whichever chamber to make a decision as to

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<v Speaker 13>whether there's a primer facy case to refer it to

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<v Speaker 13>the Privileges Committee. And individuals have the right to submit

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<v Speaker 13>to the Privileges Committee as well. This proposal talks about

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<v Speaker 13>three commissioners or semi commissioners or something who will make

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<v Speaker 13>a decision and then they will report members or Senators,

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<v Speaker 13>as I understand it, to the Privileges Committee, which then

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<v Speaker 13>in a sense take to why the presiding officers role

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<v Speaker 13>it currently exists. Now, it's important to know that the

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<v Speaker 13>Parliament is the master of its own destiny and for

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<v Speaker 13>that not to be the case means that you don't

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<v Speaker 13>get full and free exchange of ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so I.

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<v Speaker 13>Think to see how it's going to work in practice,

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<v Speaker 13>I'm not really very sure at all, but no doubt

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<v Speaker 13>there'll be some debate about it. Now the Jenkins Report

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<v Speaker 13>has to be taken seriously, yes, And at the moment

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<v Speaker 13>if someone makes a complaint, they make it to Finance

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<v Speaker 13>and they put up a case as to why they

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<v Speaker 13>should get compensation, and lots of people have well.

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<v Speaker 1>And also under the Jenkins reforms, in many, if not

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<v Speaker 1>all workplaces, it's two years retrospective and you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>bring something up within two years or whatever the incident

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<v Speaker 1>was in a place like Parliament House where there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of people moving around, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different reasons why people sometimes want to go

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<v Speaker 1>after people. I'm fascinated about just how this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to work against Stephen. We want a safe, responsible workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not finding some sort of dog whistle for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the eighties here, But it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like what the intention may be, which way will be

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<v Speaker 1>fine and good and great, But this is a place

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<v Speaker 1>where when the consequences are for whatever reason, you end

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<v Speaker 1>up having some sort of emotional bust up with the staffer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the staffer within two years of leaving your office,

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<v Speaker 1>turns around and says, oh, I used to throw this,

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<v Speaker 1>that and the other, and as soon as you get

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<v Speaker 1>a red card, you're done. You're gone.

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<v Speaker 14>Look, I think that you're correct for Jenkins report, and

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<v Speaker 14>Bromwin was correct. Needs to be taken very seriously. There

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<v Speaker 14>is no easy solution to this. I think I'm not

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<v Speaker 14>as convinced as Bromwin, having not been a presiding officer,

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<v Speaker 14>that the decision rests with should rest with the presiding officer.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm more come or with the process being proposed. I'm

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<v Speaker 14>very concerned about the vexatiousness question, but there's one aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's often lost because of the House of Reps.

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<v Speaker 14>Is not often in very close to a minority governed,

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<v Speaker 14>or one vote difference. In the Senate, many many votes

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<v Speaker 14>are decided by what one vote. Many pieces of legislations

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<v Speaker 14>decided by one vote. The idea that you can suspend

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<v Speaker 14>somebody can easily be weaponized along the way, and so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm uncomfortable with that aspect.

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<v Speaker 14>The fines, the penalties, no problem, but the removing an

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<v Speaker 14>elected representative from the parliament is actually concerning when it

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<v Speaker 14>comes to legislative outcomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent, guys appreciate it. Fascinating to how

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<v Speaker 1>the chet Let's have another one next week. Looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to it. All, right, but we need to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>with Megan Kelly straight up to the brakes. She's very fine,

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<v Speaker 1>up to right, very fine. The Democratic National advertorial is

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<v Speaker 1>taking place in Chicago right now. A person who, like

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of us, is rolling her eyes but has

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to pay attention because that's kind of the job. Wonderful

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>making Kelly in the United States rockstar. How but let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's happening outside of the venue. Because the

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>protesters addressed as either abortion pills, or people who say

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison killers and should.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to hill.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's just your average Democratic national convention where you

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<v Speaker 8>could kill your baby or kill your balls with a

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<v Speaker 8>visectomy in like a to go truck, you could you

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<v Speaker 8>could swing by the days of rage Palestinian protesters who

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<v Speaker 8>are promising to entice the police into fighting so badly

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 8>that they wind up with bruises as they're back to

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 8>school outfits, so they're having themselves a normal one. So

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<v Speaker 8>far inside the arena, we have Joe Biden telling us

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<v Speaker 8>he's not angry at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Angry, and so all of his.

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<v Speaker 8>Body language and tone suggests that he's a very angry man.

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<v Speaker 8>And we know why they shoved him out of this role.

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 8>I would have done it myself if I had been

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<v Speaker 8>a Democrat. I did not think he could do it

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<v Speaker 8>four more years. I don't blame them for shoving him out,

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 8>but he was shoved out, and now they want to

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<v Speaker 8>pretend that it was voluntary. And you have crazy, crazy

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<v Speaker 8>Nancy Pelosi with her Joe biden Stein gooed Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>Meanwhile, she was one of suck the knife and twisted it.

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<v Speaker 8>There's no person more responsible for asking him than Nancy,

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<v Speaker 8>But she wants us to believe she's totally teamed Joe

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<v Speaker 8>and she praised every night.

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<v Speaker 4>Their relationship is still in tech. The whole thing is.

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<v Speaker 8>Just debauchery and fraud. That's what I've seen so far,

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<v Speaker 8>just the celebration of killing babies in the womb. And

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<v Speaker 8>this is again not a pro choice, pro life comment.

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 8>It's if you pro choice, that's fine, but you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 8>be out there celebrating the murder of your child.

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Killing of your child.

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<v Speaker 8>At least normal people know abortion is at least the

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<v Speaker 8>ending of a potential life.

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<v Speaker 4>To be very charitable to the pro choice side, to

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<v Speaker 4>be out there.

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<v Speaker 8>Celebrating its dressed up what's nest like, dressed up like

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<v Speaker 8>a little scalpel and walk down like with the little remains.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's just in such bad taste to be

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 8>marching around Chicago as an abortion pill. And they want

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 8>us to believe that they're the pro family party. So

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to celebrate abortions, and we're going to celebrate vasectomies,

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<v Speaker 8>and then we're going to swing by the Palestinian protesters

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 8>who are throwing bloody shoes in the faces of Joe

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<v Speaker 8>Biden and Kamala Harris pictures. So I don't know what

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<v Speaker 8>they're really trying to telegraph other than very extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your sense about where the protests go? Because my

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>thought was that if it was the issue, that that

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden would be sort of the not where they

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>were most angry, because this was the person who's in

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 1>office right now. But do you think that they are

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>going to ramp it up and some of the knots

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>that was on display in day one by that final

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<v Speaker 1>die because they clearly want the nine and sixty eight moment.

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I want the moment, as you say, to get into

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the fought with police to remind people, hey, you know,

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>done full for the donefold full of the lawns, stay angry.

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they'll remind what I currently owe?

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<v Speaker 1>There is a die of crazy coming this week.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, we heard that they were going to go at

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<v Speaker 8>it their hardest the first night, and the fourth night,

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<v Speaker 8>the night that Joe Biden was speaking, and then the

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 8>night that Kamala Harris is speaking. And if last night

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 8>is any indicator, eh, yeah, really not a news story. Yeah,

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 8>slightly annoying. You didn't really like make a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>news headlines. Not that I'm looking for them too, I'm

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 8>just saying this was their promise, then it didn't really happen.

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<v Speaker 8>And honestly, like the mayor of Chicago is a far

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<v Speaker 8>left socialist, but my money is usually on the Chicago PD.

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<v Speaker 4>I lived in Chicago for five years.

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<v Speaker 8>The Chicago p D does not f around, and I

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<v Speaker 8>would be shocked if they were not able to handle

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 8>this influx of protesters who have been there for quite

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<v Speaker 8>some time. I was just in Chicago last October and

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 8>they were out there. Then this is post the Israel responds,

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.720
<v Speaker 8>I mean the attack on Israel and then the Israeli response,

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<v Speaker 8>and they were all over the place and the Chicago

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 8>PD had them well in hand. So if they managed

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<v Speaker 8>to escalate to the point where they lose control, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>law enforcement, I'd be shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know, the all of these parties when they

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<v Speaker 1>have their conventions, we all know that it's not really

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>about anything serious. It's just about the fields, the vibe,

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and we know that the vibe has got them to

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a place where maybe they're winning. But on the issues

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 1>which remained, things like the economy, in immigration that ain't

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>budging no matter what has happened with the froth and

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>bubble of it all, and she made a massive strategic

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>mistake on Friday when she came out with what was

0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>allegedly economic policy. But you know, the establishment people of

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the New York Times and the Washington Post went, yeah,

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>this is garbage. Let alone people who know even more

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 1>about it, who say yeah, this is garbage. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in one of the you know, I think grand total

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>of ten minutes where she's been off the teleprompter, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>ord'll the store pay for itself. I reckon that if

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 1>people were sitting and waiting for the wobble of who

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 1>has she changed from what she was, we have seen no.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the period of time after the advertorial to

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<v Speaker 1>the debate, she's in a world of trouble when it's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the number one issue.

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<v Speaker 4>The economy.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, she got panned from the left and the right

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 8>on what was universally cried as gimmicks, a gimmicky speech

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<v Speaker 8>on Friday about how she, with the hand of the

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<v Speaker 8>federal government, is going to single handedly change.

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<v Speaker 4>Prices at the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 8>Meanwhile, the grocers generally have a one percent profit margin.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 8>How is she going to stop them? From their price

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 8>gouging make them operate at a loss. That's not what's

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 8>going to happen. Her infletion is what's caused increased prices

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 8>at the grocery store and the gas pump.

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<v Speaker 4>And she's trying to dodge.

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<v Speaker 8>It by saying it's these evil, corporate, greedy people who

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 8>are trying to exploit the poor working class. That's not

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 8>what happened. They spent too much The Fed printed too

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 8>much money, and they drove up the cash influx in

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 8>the economy, which leads to Inflation's that's what we're dealing

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:23.760
<v Speaker 8>with over here. And she can blame it on the evil, corporate,

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 8>greedy people all she wants, but there's only so much

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 8>she could clip the wings of the grocers without making

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 8>groceries disappear.

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<v Speaker 4>Lovely, Not to talk to you, all right, See next week.