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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whip with Kate Richie podcast. Hey,

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Speaker 1: a bit of an interesting chat I had with my

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Speaker 1: wife over the weekend. I'm revealing a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about everything.

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Speaker 2: You're right, I mean, we just heard the Nathan Cleary

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Speaker 2: Mary Fowler rumors. Is there a headline coming out on

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Speaker 2: the Daily mar Yeah.

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Speaker 1: First they'll describe what I'm wearing, and then they'll get

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Speaker 1: in front of me looking down and say his life's over,

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Speaker 1: and I'll have to deal with that. Wait for the

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Speaker 1: comments section and have a bit of a laugh. Who

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Speaker 1: is he?

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Speaker 3: Never heard of him?

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Speaker 1: Why are you riding this crap? Who Oh? Anybody around

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Speaker 1: the age and I'm talking to the sisterhood here around

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Speaker 1: the age of forty onwards. There's a thing called menopause

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Speaker 1: which can take place in Perry. Menopause is very much

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Speaker 1: a topic of conversation in my wife's world at the moment.

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Speaker 1: She is Howard's lesa Tommy, what do you reckon? Lovely Li?

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Speaker 3: So forty two?

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Speaker 2: What are you reckon?

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Speaker 1: When's her birthday? First?

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Speaker 4: Over?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, she's a memory, she's a mar Yeah that's right, March. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks mane. Hey, let me know what you're giving her

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. Anyway, the conversation was up and we

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Speaker 1: were talking about how tough menopause is, and you know,

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Speaker 1: for somebody going through menopause, it affects everybody differently, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you can go on for ten years and

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Speaker 1: it's a level of depression and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't understand it. But in the menopause phase.

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Speaker 1: With that, I said to Lisa said, oh, I'm scared

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to be I'm going to change as

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Speaker 1: a person around the house. And I said, all right,

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Speaker 1: well I can help you out there. Why don't we

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Speaker 1: do a deal when you're going through menopause.

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Speaker 3: I'll do a deal.

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Speaker 1: You can go to a health retreat for one week

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Speaker 1: out of every month, right, what so you can catch

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Speaker 1: your breath. Then I had a moment for one week

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Speaker 1: out of every month. Very generous.

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Speaker 2: That is an believable get.

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Speaker 1: Then I said, well, who's going to do things here?

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Speaker 1: And what about me? And then I said, okay, well

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Speaker 1: I'll have a girlfriend that can step in for that

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Speaker 1: week so they can do sort of the girl duties

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Speaker 1: and be part of my life for that week, and

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Speaker 1: then you come back. She moves out, and then we

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Speaker 1: continue on for the next three weeks. What like a nanny.

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Speaker 3: But it's all nice.

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Speaker 1: It's a girlfriend, have a girlfriend anyway, this is mom.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was a little bit hypothetical, like I'm

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Speaker 1: joking around a little bit. She leans over with her

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Speaker 1: hand and says, deal, now, I don't want a girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: We're just getting a health retreat every three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Mate. Yeah, but hang on a minute. Shouldn't she be

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Speaker 3: worried about me and the other girl? How very quickly

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Speaker 3: the health retreat became more powerful than her concern about

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Speaker 3: her husband with another woman.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if that was reversed and I said, yeah, a bloke,

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Speaker 1: another blow can move in for a week while I'm

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Speaker 1: gone over my dead body, Like there's absolutely no way

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Speaker 1: I'm letting another man play my role in my house

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Speaker 1: with my wife and family. She within three seconds handout deal.

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Speaker 1: What but it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's not like she's a woman's coming in to take

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Speaker 2: over that. What's happening in the bedroom?

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Speaker 1: Yes she is.

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Speaker 3: That's a girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Oh so that was part of the deal.

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Speaker 3: Was Well, it's a girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: It's intimate, so.

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Speaker 3: It's an open relationship, all the duties.

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Speaker 1: Well for a week only though, fits She comes home early,

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Speaker 1: it's going to throw everything if you have a deal

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Speaker 1: in your relationship, and maybe it's a little bit different

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Speaker 1: to the conventional marriage. Maybe there's a few rounded edges

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Speaker 1: or a little bit loose here and there.

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Speaker 2: Love Zara's Zara's given us a girl from Campbell twent.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your unusual relationship rules.

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Speaker 4: Sarah, We've been together probably eleven years now, and we

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Speaker 4: don't live together, and we have no plans on living together.

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Speaker 4: We're basically married, but there is no no plans on

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Speaker 4: living together.

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Speaker 2: Oh so what are the living arrangements then, Zara? How

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Speaker 2: often would you spend time at his house?

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Speaker 4: Probably about three times a week, okay?

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Speaker 1: And do you have dinner together most nights?

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Speaker 4: No? And sometimes if we feel like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why haven't you moved in together?

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Speaker 4: Because, like you talk about the menopause thing, I'm scared

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Speaker 4: of that as well, like I'm scared of the boots

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Speaker 4: and also like we have different lives, like I have children,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, it's not not any big deal, but just

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Speaker 4: because are like the way that I live in.

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Speaker 1: He Max places, Zarah, no rules, absolutely our rules and

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Speaker 1: no judgment. No rules.

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Speaker 2: Then, Zarah, what if he Zarah? What about other partners.

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you had a conversation about that?

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Speaker 4: No, Like there's one hundred trust in the relationship, it

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Speaker 4: would be together too long. We're like, we're married, but

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Speaker 4: we're just not conventional.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 1: I met an American guy the other day, Zarah. He

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Speaker 1: lives in New York, happily married. His wife lives in

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Speaker 1: la Of course he's happily married. Probably well, I think

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Speaker 1: so they just have different the different stages of their lives.

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Speaker 1: They love each other and they spend weeks together when

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Speaker 1: it both works for them. But that's how they do things.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. It's love, but it's just a different way.

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Speaker 1: It's a different kind of love.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to be with the

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Speaker 2: one that you love all the time, though, don't you

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Speaker 2: go through the height.

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Speaker 1: If you can't be with the one you love love

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Speaker 1: the one you're with you know?

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