Speaker 1: Welcome to the Daily Telegraph NROL podcast and David and I.
Speaker 2: We're a bit flat this morning.
Speaker 3: Aren't we. Oh Mickey morning read man.
Speaker 2: Hello, hello brand.
Speaker 4: Top of the morning to you. Well I did predict thirty.
Speaker 1: Yes, we've got our resident in Queensland here is he'd
Speaker 1: likes to remind us every day, but state of origin.
Speaker 1: We'll have all the wash up fallout and I look
Speaker 1: into the rest of the NRL because there's some important
Speaker 1: games this weekend, but let's start with the big issue.
Speaker 2: Joseph saw Leh Dave send off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was a send off me. And
Speaker 3: as much as it pains me.
Speaker 5: To to see a game ruined after seven minutes, you
Speaker 5: can't deny the fact that Joseph Suley collected Ruth Welsh high.
Speaker 5: I thought it was I thought the terminology it was
Speaker 5: it's charged a reckless probably put it in.
Speaker 3: A careless category.
Speaker 5: But at the moment where Roos Walsh was lying on
Speaker 5: the on the ground half asleep, I thought, I thought,
Speaker 5: that's that's the end of his night.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it was the right call. Yeah, I think
Speaker 6: it was the right call. I thought he lost control.
Speaker 6: I mean they've spoken about that last the last year,
Speaker 6: earlier this year, and they talked about the rule change
Speaker 6: about shooting at the line and you've got to you've
Speaker 6: got a responsibility to last time, keep.
Speaker 4: Yourself under control. And I thought he lost control.
Speaker 6: But I mean he was both basically airborne and his
Speaker 6: contact in the in the head and that's that's he
Speaker 6: just went straight in. It was crazy. And I understand
Speaker 6: you're trying to make an impact. I mean, I love Joe.
Speaker 6: He's a great young kid, really really nice young kid,
Speaker 6: great footballer. But you know, I've got we do have
Speaker 6: an issue with I think this comes down. I actually
Speaker 6: think select him in the centers put almost too much
Speaker 6: pressure on him.
Speaker 3: Hang on just saying what played at center?
Speaker 2: He comes in and.
Speaker 4: He's played most of the year on the wing. He's
Speaker 4: played a little bit of center.
Speaker 6: You acknowledge that he's played some center, but he's played
Speaker 6: the majority of his time on the wing.
Speaker 2: And I just think I don't see the correlation.
Speaker 3: That's not that's fine.
Speaker 4: I'm like to throw things out there.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, but that's not an uncharacteristic trait of
Speaker 5: a center to put pressure on a on a fullback
Speaker 5: playing out the back.
Speaker 6: I agree I'm not so annoying that the way he
Speaker 6: shot out and reckless and the way he lost.
Speaker 3: He's doing his job as a center.
Speaker 4: Played.
Speaker 6: A lot of centers talk about time in well, timing,
Speaker 6: positional sense, defensive sense, and the centers.
Speaker 1: I just think he was a kid amped up on
Speaker 1: the wanted to make an impact and he got He
Speaker 1: got the timing wrong.
Speaker 5: And that's the ramifications and the argument guys to a
Speaker 5: lot of people that are disappointed. Was the center reeche
Speaker 5: Walsh is dipping and slipping him and he lowers his
Speaker 5: body heighth of which.
Speaker 3: Is then any other choice helps the situation of not help.
Speaker 3: He's not that situation.
Speaker 5: He's not all like, he's not he's slipping his body,
Speaker 5: he's lower.
Speaker 6: But but there was no margin eraror there with the rules.
Speaker 5: But fans out there questioning the sendoff, saying that ree
Speaker 5: has played a role in.
Speaker 3: This high shot as well. Do you agree with it?
Speaker 5: Do you believe that you just I can understand I
Speaker 5: don't believe I can understand it.
Speaker 3: But but the rules are the artist is on the defender.
Speaker 1: I thought that the easy option would have been to
Speaker 1: symbon him, right, and of course, but I thought actually
Speaker 1: climbed the bucket.
Speaker 2: They got it right.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a sendoff every day the as
Speaker 1: soon as he saw the replayer, you saw.
Speaker 6: Getting the job as well. I thought that was a
Speaker 6: big call, right, that's a massive call. Got it right,
Speaker 6: And that was interesting in the agumption to make it.
Speaker 5: What was interesting is set prior the kickdown field and
Speaker 5: Reese Walsh's taken out late in a kicking ocean and
Speaker 5: and he's he's in the air. It's apparently every day
Speaker 5: of the week. And so at that point, oh oh,
Speaker 5: here we go. We're gonna get a little bit of flexibility.
Speaker 2: And stuff of origin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't think you could have much flexibility
Speaker 5: with the soali eyeshot.
Speaker 3: And for people to.
Speaker 1: Say, you know, that ruined the game over in the case,
Speaker 1: but it's not on the OUs of the referee's but
Speaker 1: it's either on the game it's not.
Speaker 2: But that's just.
Speaker 1: That's just what happened, right, Like, I'm not you can't
Speaker 1: have any criticism towards actually client for that, but what
Speaker 1: about there's been some reaction to it a couple of things,
Speaker 1: whether New South Wales got their bench rotation.
Speaker 2: Wrong as a result.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I just think that people criticizing the
Speaker 1: fact they didn't have a back on the bench, it
Speaker 1: would have made it. It wouldn't have made a difference
Speaker 1: because you're not coming firstly in the eighth minute, you're
Speaker 1: not bringing it. You're not making an inner change, right,
Speaker 1: because that's going to screw up the rest of your
Speaker 1: rotation when you're already down to twelve. You need to
Speaker 1: keep those interchanges up.
Speaker 6: Your sleep rotation screwed up anyway when Jake Troby spent
Speaker 6: fifty minutes.
Speaker 1: Yes, I get that right, But if you're going to
Speaker 1: burn an interchange after eight minutes, right, because you've got
Speaker 1: twelve players, you're still going to be short somewhere on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 2: You might have had a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Speed and you might be able to have counted a
Speaker 1: little bit to shift in right defensively. But I don't
Speaker 1: think even if Michael mcgui had a back on the bench,
Speaker 1: would he have made a change after eight minutes.
Speaker 6: But they got burned, Like really, when you look back
Speaker 6: at that game, the period that costs them, well, one
Speaker 6: of the major periods that cost it because they didn't adjust. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't understand. They moved right now the other side and
Speaker 6: they changed things around. But maybe if you have a
Speaker 6: back on the bench, maybe then maybe you get them
Speaker 6: on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think he does.
Speaker 6: That, and you don't maybe you don't need to rotate
Speaker 6: your forwards as much because.
Speaker 2: You have to do well, you have to and you've
Speaker 2: burned an inn change.
Speaker 3: I come back to I flagged on the show last week.
Speaker 5: Michael McGuire originally wanted Connor Watson on that bench, and
Speaker 5: that was this is the reason.
Speaker 4: Why Watson defend center. He's not center.
Speaker 3: It's not ideal, it's capable, but he's not a center.
Speaker 1: But then you would have had you would have really
Speaker 1: not speak, but then you would have had helped.
Speaker 3: Out in the background out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think even still if it was
Speaker 1: kind of Watson, he's not on in the eighth minute,
Speaker 1: would just so Burt.
Speaker 4: Was on the bench.
Speaker 6: You don't think that Chuck Burton and their flip still
Speaker 6: cring over early in that game, change sides Eventually.
Speaker 1: I don't think it happens after eight minutes, might happen
Speaker 1: after fifteen minutes or twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: Rag it out down.
Speaker 1: Eventually they would have made that adjustment. I just don't think.
Speaker 1: I just don't think we're twelve men that you can
Speaker 1: burn an in change so quickly because it's going to
Speaker 1: cost you the back. It cost them anyway, right exactly.
Speaker 1: But I just don't think they would have. I just
Speaker 1: don't think happened back on the bench. It's not that
Speaker 1: you can't compare it to queens there because Queensland lost
Speaker 1: the player and I would have replaced the player. New
Speaker 1: South World was still stripped for numbers.
Speaker 6: At some point, was saying to my wife this morning,
Speaker 6: I said, everything Billy touches at the moment just turns
Speaker 6: to Gulf does like everyone goes. You've got seldom Cobba
Speaker 6: on the bench, respotch, he's gone after eight minutes Club
Speaker 6: Australia action.
Speaker 4: He's just in this golden pit. Well.
Speaker 6: I think Billy's been in a golden period for about
Speaker 6: twenty years.
Speaker 2: Sometimes one of.
Speaker 4: That he does is just he's got.
Speaker 3: I just feel deflated.
Speaker 5: I feel honestly, I feel deflated for the eighty thousand
Speaker 5: fans at that stadium last night.
Speaker 3: It's it's such a.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I feel honestly, I just feel flat
Speaker 5: that I love State of Origin and there's a lot
Speaker 5: of fans that don't. There's a lot of fans that
Speaker 5: think it just gets in the way of their club,
Speaker 5: their club game. But for me, it is such the
Speaker 5: greatest advertising vehicle for the game over any other sport
Speaker 5: in the country. And as soon as Souali was sent off,
Speaker 5: you could just feel the air in the state fall flat.
Speaker 5: And look, I know there's a lot of debate in
Speaker 5: and around introducing rules that allow in the blue circumstance
Speaker 5: to bring a player onto the game, maybe after ten
Speaker 5: or twenty minutes once coinsland have gained an advantage, but
Speaker 5: and look, I personally don't think that's the way to go.
Speaker 3: I still think it's worth debate, but.
Speaker 5: In this moment where it is the greatest advertising vehicle
Speaker 5: the game's got, I just feel flat.
Speaker 2: Honestly, we'll perk you out.
Speaker 4: There's an easy way to solve that day.
Speaker 6: Solve that problem only blokes in the head and you
Speaker 6: won't have to worry about gunder men.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: The people that are suggested, I know you threw it
Speaker 1: out there in a column that's online today. That's not
Speaker 1: even a debate. I like, that's what will happen is
Speaker 1: you get well.
Speaker 3: Michael Maguire said, it's worth looking but it's.
Speaker 4: Not, of course, just lost.
Speaker 1: It's not looking at because you can get you get
Speaker 1: a plot up to start in your side, get out
Speaker 1: and kill someone, get off the field and then replacing
Speaker 1: with the gun who's eighteens man?
Speaker 3: Yeah done.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not under tens.
Speaker 1: Where you know you might be able to replace a player.
Speaker 2: Anyone that suggested that is a dribbler. Dave's done.
Speaker 3: Dave, he's not the first, he's not there.
Speaker 2: But Dame doesn't agree with it. Yeah, I'm not pushing it.
Speaker 1: He started out there because people were suggesting the post game, right,
Speaker 1: and I think anyone that suggested it is a dribbler.
Speaker 6: You I didn't suggest the point of saying no. I
Speaker 6: think it's just unrealistic. And you spot on that it
Speaker 6: probably wouldn't happen, right, but you could have in the
Speaker 6: Grand Final if they're playing against Reese Walsh again. So
Speaker 6: someone just gets gets picked in the seven number and
Speaker 6: the sole role is to go out there and take
Speaker 6: off Responts's head.
Speaker 4: Now, probably wouldn't happen, but.
Speaker 2: Of course it would. It would happen. You don't think
Speaker 2: they send someone not to do you.
Speaker 4: Think a coach would not start to play.
Speaker 1: No, no one's going to run an elbow in the
Speaker 1: head or anything like that, right, But you don't think
Speaker 1: that them there would be you'd cross that line.
Speaker 2: Of course you would. I'm not saying anyone's going to
Speaker 2: rune and intentionally elbow someone in the head.
Speaker 4: You're not going to.
Speaker 3: You're going to cross it.
Speaker 1: You're going to cross it, right because you can, because
Speaker 1: the reward you can just get replaced. It's just I
Speaker 1: don't like that at all. All right, origin game, Well,
Speaker 1: let's touch on Queensland, right.
Speaker 5: Sorry, just really quick, I know what's your show? Did
Speaker 5: you we just touch on Jakie your boy bitch in
Speaker 5: the minute because you mentioned it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a long, awful, long time bailed match up.
Speaker 3: In the sheds after the game, I said, listen, what's
Speaker 3: to go with what happened there with Jake?
Speaker 5: And he said, look at that period of the game back,
Speaker 5: second half right, largely second half off.
Speaker 3: Now it came on for the last four minutes, didn't he?
Speaker 5: He said, we were chasing points and Jake's greatest strength
Speaker 5: is his defense, holding, holding the middle, and we needed
Speaker 5: to attack as much as we could. I had to
Speaker 5: get my best attacking players on the field and ultimately
Speaker 5: that was his reason.
Speaker 3: I'm not going washes or not, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to be too.
Speaker 2: Critical of it.
Speaker 1: I think because of the fact that they're down by twelve,
Speaker 1: your rotation goes out the window a little bit so
Speaker 1: and chasing points as well.
Speaker 2: You know, was having a good.
Speaker 4: Strange should be captain.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: He doesn't play.
Speaker 2: Get you, but I don't think you think that would
Speaker 2: have been the case.
Speaker 6: I'm sure it wouldn't have been, but I'm saying you're
Speaker 6: in a situation where captain doesn't play for fifty minutes
Speaker 6: in a game. I don't want to be down to
Speaker 6: twelve men. You need as much as you need speed
Speaker 6: and creating points, you also need some inspiration out there
Speaker 6: and a leader and sitting on the sidelines for.
Speaker 5: Fifty I mean, I don't want to be disrespectful to
Speaker 5: Jake nice as bloke in the world, right and exceptional footballer,
Speaker 5: but we all know he was playing an interim captain
Speaker 5: captaincy role vise ao with the captain and there.
Speaker 3: Was much debate. There was much surprise.
Speaker 5: When Jake Trabovich was named captain and I don't you
Speaker 5: know an argument was put to me this morning by
Speaker 5: one of my mates that it's Paul Gallant would never
Speaker 5: have spent that long on the bench as captain of
Speaker 5: the Blue. It is completely different, completely different. Jake again
Speaker 5: a wonderful leader, but he's not. It's not James Tedesco
Speaker 5: sitting on the bench a long term captain.
Speaker 3: And I don't see it the same.
Speaker 5: I really don't. I think at some point Jake was
Speaker 5: going to be on the bench as captain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't have a huge issue with it.
Speaker 1: I did find speaking of coaches, Billy Slater coming down
Speaker 1: to the sideline, I've never seen that before. That was
Speaker 1: he left the coaches box, walked down beneath a press
Speaker 1: box and it's about twenty o min a mark and
Speaker 1: then wasn't yeah, and he goes down to personally deliver
Speaker 1: a message to Hamaso talk to him, gives him part
Speaker 1: and then goes back to the box.
Speaker 6: Great sense of theater, Billy, doesn't he Yeah, we're all
Speaker 6: a bit we all found out a bit strange when
Speaker 6: he ran.
Speaker 4: Past, because he ran pass front of the media, the
Speaker 4: media box. Basically it was.
Speaker 5: Like all coaches. There were two minutes left in the
Speaker 5: game and the one. You know what I mean, like
Speaker 5: what happens at the under fifteen. But I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: I don't mind it.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to get your message clear. Harmison
Speaker 1: is obviously playing fullback. Billy is the greatest fullback. Then
Speaker 1: there was an issue with the headsets.
Speaker 7: Okay, breaking that's what that's what. Okay, okay, he did
Speaker 7: and something was full back.
Speaker 4: He was unbelievable football like.
Speaker 5: It's really good when he's just coming up with twelve players.
Speaker 3: He looked good coming up. There's a lot of space
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 4: Change make a tackle?
Speaker 1: What changes the Queens they'd have to make? To give
Speaker 1: me your one six seven game?
Speaker 2: Too?
Speaker 6: Well, you won Stelan Edwards if he's fit, clearly your six.
Speaker 6: I would leave Louis. I thought LAUI was really quite good.
Speaker 6: Rights has going to be a seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What was the other one?
Speaker 2: That's it? We'll start. Let's start there.
Speaker 4: Can we talk about the seven?
Speaker 2: Can we start there?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Dave?
Speaker 2: Can I have your one six seven play?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Look, I think I think if Dylan Edwards is ready
Speaker 5: to go, I think they've got absolutely nothing to lose
Speaker 5: in a must win game. To give Edwards his debut
Speaker 5: and let's see how he goes. Jerome Lewy was okay,
Speaker 5: he wasn't. He plays a lot of freestyle footy that
Speaker 5: I think sometimes I can confuse his teammates.
Speaker 3: I think he does enough to stay there. I think Nicko.
Speaker 5: Hines, well, it's going to come down to Mitch's performances now.
Speaker 5: And for Nico, I thought his effort and and his
Speaker 5: want and desire to go after the game was all there, right,
Speaker 5: So any question about him folding under pressure I don't
Speaker 5: agree with.
Speaker 3: However, execution was let him down. His execution kicking game.
Speaker 3: The kicking game was or wasn't there?
Speaker 5: And what do we know about Mitch Mitchell Moses kicking games.
Speaker 4: I think Mitch's gets through the next two weeks.
Speaker 5: Mitch's in and barn a shock. I've got this little
Speaker 5: feeling that madeal I don't know, I've just got this
Speaker 5: feeling magical.
Speaker 3: Go hang on. We did a job with twelve man.
Speaker 3: I might stick with these.
Speaker 1: Boys, I think, I think though generally yes, but I
Speaker 1: think if you asked him who.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be full back, it was Dylan Edwards.
Speaker 1: I think once Nathan clearly was gone, if you asked him,
Speaker 1: who would have been his next choice half.
Speaker 6: Would Mitch would have played six and clear? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think Mitch was.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's culling. I don't think there's going
Speaker 1: to be whole Moses. I don't think I think that
Speaker 1: goes cooked. I don't think. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: plain after that performance last night. I thought Jerome was decent,
Speaker 1: was released half the threat I thought new kicking game
Speaker 1: was was kicking so often, which obviously would have been attacked.
Speaker 1: And I found strange when you know, jack lo match
Speaker 1: was really good last night, but I'm not sure why
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 4: Kicking treating of season.
Speaker 6: How if Nicko does get the chop, how he responds,
Speaker 6: because last year we struggled after.
Speaker 2: And this is off the back of a poor performance.
Speaker 3: I've already spoken to Sharks officials who have spoken to Nico.
Speaker 5: This morning, and Nico's up like he's he gets he
Speaker 5: gets the sure like the half back of the Blues
Speaker 5: Cops criticism right, but again like he defensively went after
Speaker 5: the game, never stepped coming at the game.
Speaker 3: Just his execution let him down.
Speaker 6: He clearly had a sense of what was coming. Was
Speaker 6: It is one of the few players that didn't come
Speaker 6: out of the dressing room last night.
Speaker 2: Blues were pretty good.
Speaker 6: Nick I was well aware that he obviously had a
Speaker 6: disappointing game and he was going to be underscreened.
Speaker 2: And one of the other ones that did it was
Speaker 2: Joseph saw Lee who spoke.
Speaker 4: This more him too, so he was out and just
Speaker 4: didn't nic.
Speaker 3: I saw cam mckinness. I did see cam Kin either, but.
Speaker 6: I think I don't know. I think obviously they go
Speaker 6: to Melbourne and they need to win. I think you've
Speaker 6: got to pick mental man.
Speaker 1: I think like the fullback position was intriguing, right, but
Speaker 1: Tedesco was okay. But if if Dylan Edwards is fit,
Speaker 1: I don't think did enough to stop him from getting
Speaker 1: that number.
Speaker 5: One's a couple of about the back players there that
Speaker 5: Teddy was trying to tip.
Speaker 2: On on the right hand.
Speaker 1: So if Dylan Edwards is fit, he comes, and if
Speaker 1: he's not fit, I think remains there.
Speaker 3: But you don't think so drink water. I think drink
Speaker 3: was the other question.
Speaker 5: The other question is if they go for a bit
Speaker 5: more starch in the middle with a Mitch Barnett and
Speaker 5: that's you know, I don't I like huts and young
Speaker 5: as a player, but is he bringing enough punch?
Speaker 2: A bit unfair for him because of the way his role.
Speaker 5: This is what, this is why, this is why our
Speaker 5: entire discussion is underre Do you look a plan went
Speaker 5: out the windows?
Speaker 3: I don't know Lomax kicking was part of the game.
Speaker 1: It would have had to have been, because obviously they
Speaker 1: might have had concerns around Nicko's car for whatever the case,
Speaker 1: Mate nick Zach Lomax doesn't find himself in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field on the last tackle that often unless
Speaker 1: it's scripted.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I know they look disjointed at times, but it happened
Speaker 1: how many times it happened a couple of times?
Speaker 2: Where you go, okay, well this is obviously part of
Speaker 2: the plan.
Speaker 4: Do you do you look at a nappy corous out.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's say we've picked out one six seven,
Speaker 1: the other contextius spot at the moment will be center
Speaker 1: with surely he almost certainly not going to be there.
Speaker 1: Newcastle officials hope Bradman Best might play next week so
Speaker 1: he comes back into the.
Speaker 6: Should not even be a discussion who are you picking?
Speaker 6: Latrell Mitchell should be straining that team. If he gets
Speaker 6: through the next two weeks, he should be there. Why
Speaker 6: because he's he's your best hope of going to Melbourne.
Speaker 4: And winning.
Speaker 3: I thought brad Best did more in game three last year.
Speaker 4: It didn't matter.
Speaker 3: Then Latrell has done in some time in some times.
Speaker 6: So that one if you go to Queensland and you
Speaker 6: say to them who scares you more, Bradman Best or
Speaker 6: Li Troll Mitchell, would you respect to brad and Best, who's.
Speaker 4: A really good football?
Speaker 2: And then you're get in trouble.
Speaker 6: But if you go to Queensland, I'm sure if you
Speaker 6: said to Billy or any of those the queencierence was
Speaker 6: stunned with Latrell.
Speaker 4: Wasn't there They were doing cartwheels?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And and do you know what would be even
Speaker 5: more scary if you're part of the Blues coaching staff
Speaker 5: because you don't know what he's going to bring.
Speaker 2: I think you just got to go.
Speaker 3: As well.
Speaker 1: If Bradman is not fit because he has to play
Speaker 1: next week, he doesn't play next week, you're not picking him.
Speaker 1: Where do you go, David? The options are made. Matt
Speaker 1: Burton stag.
Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't play in the centers to be honest boys,
Speaker 5: but he is an option. He's got a good kick
Speaker 5: and gives another kicking option to them.
Speaker 3: The you have the name prior to.
Speaker 5: Origin one was was Jesse Ramian, but look i'd have Bradman,
Speaker 5: then Latrell.
Speaker 6: I hope giving you last advice because I give you
Speaker 6: a bit of a free advice, A bit of free advice.
Speaker 4: Pick Latrell Madge.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure mad just sitting there with his notebook.
Speaker 1: What other changes do you foresee? You mentioned happy chorus
Speaker 1: out I would And this is not a slide on
Speaker 1: ree Robson.
Speaker 2: I thought res Robson was really good last night. Ree
Speaker 2: Robson retains the number nine position, but I.
Speaker 1: Uppy off the bench just to add a bit of
Speaker 1: a change of pace out of nine.
Speaker 2: The Connor Watson theory burn.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did burn a change with another with another
Speaker 5: hook unless you go sorry, unless you just use Reece
Speaker 5: Robson as the middle as a thirteen.
Speaker 4: Do you look at Maddie Burton on the bench as
Speaker 4: well or not?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Actually I don't mind that point now
Speaker 3: I think about it.
Speaker 5: Mickey happy off the bench because then Ruce can play
Speaker 5: that Harry Grant ben Hart running third and.
Speaker 1: Then I don't think you can have If you're going
Speaker 1: to do that, I'm not sure you can have mcinness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Robson, I didn't think last night.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought you got in the way of
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 6: I remember watching the game after about a half hour
Speaker 6: and saying it the same as someone I didn't even
Speaker 6: notice m But that's the that's the art of Can mccinness, right.
Speaker 6: You don't always notice him, but he gets through amount
Speaker 6: of work.
Speaker 4: But I can't. I can barely remember anything he did
Speaker 4: in that game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Joey John's held him up in high regards. He
Speaker 5: was one of the Blues back there.
Speaker 4: He might have been because that's the sort of football
Speaker 4: he gets around.
Speaker 3: I've got to admit I'm with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so we've we're making change at one, we're
Speaker 1: making change in the centers. We're making one change in
Speaker 1: the half, so that's three and then potentially one or
Speaker 1: two bench spots.
Speaker 2: And Mitchett and what's the.
Speaker 6: Threshold for when you say they got it completely wrong
Speaker 6: in origin?
Speaker 3: Mine?
Speaker 4: Well, but threshold was doing this for wrong?
Speaker 1: No, because Tedesco was was a force change Nikko Hines
Speaker 1: at seven, Mick Moses wasn't available, so they're going to
Speaker 1: say they got that wrong. Surely he's unavailable. So there's
Speaker 1: three changes that I'm not I'm not saying.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, turning on.
Speaker 2: I don't think so it's going to be at least
Speaker 2: well I have to.
Speaker 4: I've got force changes right to start with.
Speaker 1: So and that's you know, there's still two games to
Speaker 1: get through, so that that's going to be interesting.
Speaker 6: I think, Look, I think Moses has got to be
Speaker 6: a fitness permittee.
Speaker 4: You've got to bring it, bring Mitch in Edwards Edwards, and.
Speaker 6: As I said, I think you've got to pick Latrell.
Speaker 6: And I'm sure Madge isn't thinking that way right because
Speaker 6: there's clearly some sort of disconnect between Latrell, Madge the
Speaker 6: Blues and but you know, if i'm you know what,
Speaker 6: I Latrell and pick up the phone, call a Madge
Speaker 6: and say may not again.
Speaker 3: Seriously, how many times have you asked the Troy to
Speaker 3: pick up the phone to matter?
Speaker 1: But I'd be today, I'd be texting today or whatever.
Speaker 2: Say I'm ready here. That's what you need to do.
Speaker 1: Anyway, there's a lot, there's a lot going on in
Speaker 1: the NRL this week. I think the games are pretty
Speaker 1: interesting considering, you know, the the origin period, because you've
Speaker 1: got a lot of size that are grouped in similar situation.
Speaker 1: You've got the Dragons Tigers in terms of where they've
Speaker 1: been the last couple of years. You've got the Titans
Speaker 1: and South Anchor towards the bottom of the ladder. You've
Speaker 1: got Brisbane and Cronulla contenders. And you've got Penrith and
Speaker 1: Manly who people think could both go deep in this competition.
Speaker 1: And then Bulldogs Eels as well as a cracking game,
Speaker 1: and then the one that's Melbourne Newcastle is probably the
Speaker 1: lesser of all those games. But I'm really intrigued by
Speaker 1: lots of these games which.
Speaker 8: We look ford to ready, probably that Bulldogs Eels came
Speaker 8: to be honest, who you tip in I'm going to
Speaker 8: tip Paramatta, yeah, because I think with Mitch back they're
Speaker 8: complete team more Mitch.
Speaker 4: We saw that one last week that.
Speaker 6: With Mitch back on that side that they were completely transformed.
Speaker 4: But the Dogs are a huge chance.
Speaker 3: I think the Bulldogs are special.
Speaker 4: They've been great this year.
Speaker 5: Special and punters out there gamble responsibly. They are outsiders
Speaker 5: in this game and you tell me how the Bulldogs
Speaker 5: are outsiders in this game given their performances of consistency
Speaker 5: in defense, the second best defensive team in the camp,
Speaker 5: Paramatta beat up a Cronulla side that are out of sorts.
Speaker 5: Out of sorts, Braidon Trindle hadn't played in five weeks.
Speaker 5: Big crowd with one more Coronela with one more set
Speaker 5: of possession would have beaten Paramatta last week, but braanden
Speaker 5: hamlinully came up with a drop And yes, Mitchell, Moses
Speaker 5: and Gutthason played a significant role in the performance.
Speaker 3: But they're going to be have to.
Speaker 5: Bulldogs are going more consistent level than Coronella are in
Speaker 5: the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: They're specials the Dogs.
Speaker 4: Okay, which game?
Speaker 2: Which game you're looking forward today?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 5: There's another there's a couple even the Warriors Warriors Cowboys game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good game too.
Speaker 5: Again, punters out there, Warriors are outside. Yeah, I did
Speaker 5: miss that game that Warriors are outsiders in this game.
Speaker 1: But that's townible. That's another one. That's another what's doing
Speaker 1: That's another group that's cowboys.
Speaker 3: Like there's been a roller coast Warriors went.
Speaker 4: Up and down to the War's over. I bet the
Speaker 4: Roosters last week with Jackson.
Speaker 3: These are crapping games.
Speaker 1: Honestly, what I'm saying there's mainly it's a pretty cool
Speaker 1: round of competition. I did forget the Warriors Cowboys games
Speaker 1: and my apologies for that, but aside from night's storm,
Speaker 1: they grew like South and Gold Coast.
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued too.
Speaker 3: So there's your latch game want to come out of.
Speaker 3: So if Latrell is serious, that's the game.
Speaker 6: He's got the next two weeks he plays. It's another
Speaker 6: qu inside next week as well. I come remember it
Speaker 6: is but a couple of games against Queensland teams to
Speaker 6: showcase what he can do. And you're right, if Latrol
Speaker 6: is serious about plan, Origin needs to come out and
Speaker 6: put it on a show. And I reckon he will
Speaker 6: because he's got that innim he can.
Speaker 2: Well, you've got to see it.
Speaker 1: South fans need to see it, let alone, that's right,
Speaker 1: desperate for it, right.
Speaker 4: And then the times Yeah better?
Speaker 1: You love this Friday Night Dragons Tigers a good good game,
Speaker 1: you know the Tigers.
Speaker 5: Off the back of the Dragons. Is I have to
Speaker 5: see a back to back performance. I really enjoyed. There
Speaker 5: wen't have a penanty last week. However, it came off
Speaker 5: of an absolute annihilation the week before by the ball
Speaker 5: so downing woman gone against the Tigers team that the Dragons.
Speaker 3: Should be beating. Yeah, I think the Red ve get away.
Speaker 4: With this one. Benji's nice and refreshed to.
Speaker 1: But there on the they're in the midst of eight
Speaker 1: game losing streak up and it's a Dragon side to
Speaker 1: one more games than they did.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of disruption down to that club
Speaker 4: with their playing rosters.
Speaker 2: Let's touch on that.
Speaker 1: You want to get into that at the moment now
Speaker 1: with the Tigers and their rosters to Fino.
Speaker 6: This big week for them because I think there's some
Speaker 6: meetings going on this week with players as well and
Speaker 6: player managers. The final situation, so they put an offer
Speaker 6: to him five years, four million dollars for next year
Speaker 6: and beyond. He's got those claus in his deal where
Speaker 6: he's luck that had he's like to be a free
Speaker 6: agent at the end of this year and work up
Speaker 6: feeling is he won't.
Speaker 4: He won't take that deal.
Speaker 6: I think they'll either have to significantly upgrade it or
Speaker 6: he'll go to market, because I think he can get
Speaker 6: that on the open market. And you know we've all
Speaker 6: heard the same thing about Stefano. He wants to go
Speaker 6: to a club where he can contend. He can he
Speaker 6: can fight for a premiership. So I for the West Tigers.
Speaker 6: You want to keep him, you've got to make it
Speaker 6: almost impossible for offer him so much money it's almost
Speaker 6: impossible for him to leave. And I don't think that's
Speaker 6: enough money to make it impossible. It's a great deal.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying five years four million dollars isn't a
Speaker 6: good but it's not. It's not wow. That's I can't
Speaker 6: say no to that because if he goes to the
Speaker 6: open market, which I think we all expect him to
Speaker 6: go on the open market, because he won't play two
Speaker 6: more Origin games this year and they won't make the finals,
Speaker 6: so he'll be a free agent come November one. He'll
Speaker 6: get offered a lot more. Not a lot more, but
Speaker 6: he'll get offered more than that clubs of the contenders.
Speaker 5: Redman and I agree with everything you just said, but
Speaker 5: can you come with me on a point I made
Speaker 5: on three sixty You brave got grace, got.
Speaker 3: A little bit antsy about it. I said that break
Speaker 3: good Man, love appreciate you.
Speaker 5: So would you not agree that there would be a
Speaker 5: possibility that Stefano actually takes less from a more successful
Speaker 5: club potentially, And I firmly believe that.
Speaker 4: I think crazed.
Speaker 5: I know you're saying, if the Tigers come up with
Speaker 5: a massive offer, there are a chance, you know, they
Speaker 5: have to go over and above.
Speaker 3: Well, I think a club can pay.
Speaker 1: Less, And I think I think really means if the
Speaker 1: Tigers came in at a meal mill a year, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and then he goes, well, I really need
Speaker 1: to see it because I might only get my only.
Speaker 3: So are we sitting at around eight hundred at the moment.
Speaker 5: So if a club comes at a successful club comes
Speaker 5: in at seven fifty, yeah, I think there are a chance.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what Ready said is the Tigers
Speaker 1: would have to get to a meal and that offer
Speaker 1: would have to be at seven fifty.
Speaker 3: And he goes well out of the water, you know.
Speaker 6: And you don't think they've done that, No, well they
Speaker 6: haven't haven't, because he could go to open market now
Speaker 6: and get that money elsewhere at big clubs. You look
Speaker 6: at the clubs are circling him. We've all heard the
Speaker 6: rumors obviously Penrith in the mix at one point. You know,
Speaker 6: Melbourne are really keen on Stefano. The dogs are on
Speaker 6: the up and i'd imagine the dogs they have a
Speaker 6: look at him.
Speaker 3: The bunnies.
Speaker 6: I'm hearing the bunnies they're struggling a bit, but they
Speaker 6: are big clubs.
Speaker 3: So Wayne, Wayne has that pulling power.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's watched that this Space West Tigers fans
Speaker 1: all right, questions.
Speaker 2: This one's for me.
Speaker 1: Hey, Scott Scott from Scott Nick Raiders looking good in
Speaker 1: the ladder.
Speaker 2: Currently, what do you think for the spoon?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't have him for I did not have
Speaker 1: it for the sounds like Plannet keep telling me I
Speaker 1: had the dragons for the spoon.
Speaker 3: Did you know the.
Speaker 2: Tigers for the spoon? I hadn't think you did?
Speaker 4: I did I think the dragon I had?
Speaker 3: I said to Flanno, and I said this again.
Speaker 2: I said, Flannel, you've got the worst.
Speaker 4: Roster in the Wow. That was the Dragons.
Speaker 1: But Scott mat Scott humble pie here massively.
Speaker 2: I said, the Raiders look like a bottom full side
Speaker 2: and they are.
Speaker 3: Strange.
Speaker 2: Ricky is coaching the best.
Speaker 3: Picking from Melbourne start of origin too.
Speaker 2: Don't desoy a camera seasons, but like Scott.
Speaker 3: I apologize and the building.
Speaker 2: Really I've got that one. Really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pick picked up a few young players roll for
Speaker 4: next year. They've gone good. Yeah, feeling good. Your man,
Speaker 4: Sticky David, you.
Speaker 2: Said an apology to him.
Speaker 3: Thanks, yep, Dave, he's ringing now.
Speaker 1: Mules wants to know Dragon's arrest of their Origin players.
Speaker 1: Is it worth going to freezing in Wollongong from Sydney.
Speaker 5: I've already contacted Dragon's officials, Muckles. I did my best
Speaker 5: for you. I didn't get a reply at this point
Speaker 5: in time. My male prior to Origin was that that
Speaker 5: Ben Hunt and Lomax would attempt to and it was
Speaker 5: just dependent on how how heavy Jaden Sho was working
Speaker 5: like it was good.
Speaker 3: Took Earn didn't do too much.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You'll struggle to find a Paul Coinsland when you're playing.
Speaker 6: Can I just say, Muckles, if you if you're a
Speaker 6: true I assume you're a Dragons fan.
Speaker 4: If you're a true Dragons fan, get to the game. Sun.
Speaker 4: You've got to support your team. Came Rain, Hail sign or.
Speaker 1: Conditions, Snook, Snooky Well show, interesting Blaze to Lungey Ready, Well.
Speaker 4: They should and we've got a little bit of cash
Speaker 4: to spend.
Speaker 6: Obviously there's a Tayler Maysue going on, and Blaze is
Speaker 6: a good young player, so I think they're mad if
Speaker 6: they don't show interesting Blaze to Langey, what are you
Speaker 6: reack about?
Speaker 1: I think everyone should be shown interesting, Richard? What is
Speaker 1: the ideal origin eligibility criteria? Is it place of birth
Speaker 1: first in your game or first game?
Speaker 3: Place of birth game?
Speaker 4: Can I give you my idea on this?
Speaker 6: And I've pitched this before so I don't mind the
Speaker 6: current eligibility rules, but place of birth should give you.
Speaker 4: It should be some sort of have the other around
Speaker 4: place at birth.
Speaker 6: For example, Luke Keary, who's demmed under the eligibility rules
Speaker 6: to be in use at Welshman born in Queensland grew
Speaker 6: up supporting Queensland because of his birthplace.
Speaker 4: He should be eligible for Queensland.
Speaker 2: He should be able to have a choice.
Speaker 4: You should have a choice exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that too. Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: That's good real chase, but not a choice at twenty.
Speaker 4: Two when you're aiding or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where you sign your first contract or whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be, because I don't want players going on.
Speaker 1: I'm going to play for yourself because I can't make Queensland.
Speaker 3: Right. But when you sign your first contract, if you're eligible.
Speaker 4: For when you're aiding, you've got to make a queen.
Speaker 2: Daniel wants to know.
Speaker 9: So first, you can't old first country. He played exemption,
Speaker 9: thank you first? Yeah, first contract is a stormman, Daniel. Daniel,
Speaker 9: Daniel loves the storm right, and you're our storms.
Speaker 4: He does love the storm.
Speaker 1: Storm only released Aaron Penny from his contract. They're still
Speaker 1: like in a parliament of four. Do you think they
Speaker 1: have a genuine cracket Steffano.
Speaker 6: I think they've got a genuine interest in Stefano. It
Speaker 6: depends where the price gets to whether Stefano is keen
Speaker 6: to move to Melbourne.
Speaker 4: But there's an interest there, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3: Does the other thing depend on Nelson? You wouldn't bring
Speaker 3: that up.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think you have Nelson and Stefano on the
Speaker 3: same team.
Speaker 9: Okay, what about a swap Nelson for Stefano?
Speaker 4: Intriguing?
Speaker 3: That's not a bad shout, Yeah, it's not bad. That's
Speaker 3: that's Tiger's areas.
Speaker 4: That's not bad.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Peter Ferguson. He always sends us funny one.
Speaker 4: Don't I say?
Speaker 6: Nelson's been He's been very disappointing this year, hasn't he
Speaker 6: the last couple of years?
Speaker 3: Really? He's named on the bench against Radio DA.
Speaker 1: So you guys are basically my last resort. But how
Speaker 1: do I get past the source stands out of my clothes.
Speaker 1: None of the stors or old wives tales work.
Speaker 2: So you're commite wealth and knowledge. He's my only hope.
Speaker 2: Dave's all across it.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been here before, Pete, and I'll feel
Speaker 3: your pain. It's Look, it's a long road back, Pete.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming it's an apple latana sauces it's red, and
Speaker 5: it's not a carbonara or pesto. And look, you've got
Speaker 5: to go down the path of scrubbing brush unfortunately scrubbed with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to go early, got to get it early.
Speaker 4: If it's if he's already.
Speaker 3: Washed the water spot on, you've got to get it, Pete.
Speaker 5: You can't go down the blues path and wait twenty
Speaker 5: five minutes to cover your reshue. You've got to get
Speaker 5: on it straight away.
Speaker 6: Don't muck around on a good scrub soaker for a bit. Yep,
Speaker 6: Colie does that for me.
Speaker 2: We did lots of soaking in the moment of clothing
Speaker 2: our household. Oh yeah, and you passed it for dinner tonight,
Speaker 2: Blues Dave, what's on the menu, your household?
Speaker 3: What's on?
Speaker 5: So we've got to buy in footy this weekend forty junior,
Speaker 5: forty under fifteen stellar see our carrying bar.
Speaker 3: We have a buy. So we're going out.
Speaker 5: We're going out for pizza as a that's a bonding session.
Speaker 4: I did that a little while ago my soccer team.
Speaker 6: I took him out for wings at war Burgers or
Speaker 6: you can eat wings twenty cent wing.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well this one's all you can eat pizza.
Speaker 5: And the boys are already talking, talking up, who's gonna eat
Speaker 5: the mone Those are the days I'm.
Speaker 6: Thinking, might it might be seafood night tonight? The read household.
Speaker 6: A bit of salmon norice salmon on the barbie. I
Speaker 6: cooked my salmon with a bit I put like to cooking,
Speaker 6: A bit of chili oil, a good a bit of hit.
Speaker 6: You know, crumo and calamari.
Speaker 3: And you calamari of course.
Speaker 4: I buy a calamari tube slice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever caught calamari? Never, but it's hard work.
Speaker 4: And then the wife they spit the purple ink out
Speaker 4: once you catch it.
Speaker 6: Now it's not so appetizing now. And the wife flock's
Speaker 6: a bit of white in phillots crumbed. But you know
Speaker 6: what she loves with her seafood. I'm sure what So
Speaker 6: whenever I get seafood, the first thing she asked me
Speaker 6: is did you buy pasta salad? She's got to have
Speaker 6: past the salad with the seafood, and every time, and
Speaker 6: she's filthy. I'm going to go back down the shops
Speaker 6: to get.
Speaker 2: Can you remember the past?
Speaker 4: Oh? Can you tell them the story about Because.
Speaker 1: The butcher, a local butcher for some reason having like
Speaker 1: was selling pork ribs for fifteen dollars a killer wow,
Speaker 1: so butt four when I having four racks a night,
Speaker 1: but there's four racks, like less than fifty bucks.
Speaker 3: That's good or how good is that?
Speaker 4: And he got the homemade.
Speaker 1: Clara was like, I was genup, ready to go get
Speaker 1: some some ribs, but he was too far away. But
Speaker 1: my wife's done the mari marinate at last night. She
Speaker 1: makes it yeah, you're going to.
Speaker 4: Give me that recipe. I've said it to you. You have.
Speaker 6: So I love pork for twenty four hours she did
Speaker 6: last night. And what's the cooking the l four?
Speaker 2: You're asking the wrong person. I will do. I'll be
Speaker 2: doing the dishes.
Speaker 4: Have we had a dishwasher?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's still with it.
Speaker 6: And then someone's the four get stuck and you know what,
Speaker 6: can I just quickly seriously, why when you dishes off
Speaker 6: figured a dishwasher. That's the purpose of the dishwasher.
Speaker 2: It depends.
Speaker 5: There's not a little dude in the dishwasher just scrubbing.
Speaker 5: There's some stuff on the plate, was some stuff on
Speaker 5: the plates?
Speaker 1: And sometimes, like I know, because you say you put
Speaker 1: your dishwasher on every day, right, you've got four adults.
Speaker 6: Well, no, I wouldn't call my sixteen holid remotely close
Speaker 6: to an adult, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So we've only got the two of us and the
Speaker 1: little one, so sometimes we don't use it.
Speaker 2: So you need to.
Speaker 4: We can give that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm really looking forward to this weekend round of
Speaker 1: footing of these heaps of intriguing matchups. Join us next
Speaker 1: week where we dissect and more origin and look to
Speaker 1: the road ahead for the NRL