WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 7 May 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.080 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:10.119 Hello, Your week is well halfway over. We're going to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.039 Wednesday night here on Paulmurray Live. Is an awful lot 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:16.320 to get to the evening, including as we speak, the 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.400 early parts of the papal conclave are taking place as 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.600 the cardinals of the world under the age of eighty 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.440 are starting to move towards the Sistine Chapel, where they 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.440 will be sealed for the rest of the day. They 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.680 will not necessarily hear an awful lot of speeches, but 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.760 presumably we might get a vote in the next of 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.960 the wild meaning a pope could be appearing within the show. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.280 But at the very least that lovely Irish bloke that 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.519 we spoke to upon the death of the Pope, We'll 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.000 go back and have a chatter him. His name's Colin Flynn. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:44.960 His voice I could listen to for an hour. His 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.720 insights are very good as well. Election wash up with 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.640 Steve Conroy and Bromwin Bishop and the one the only 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.600 Meghan killing any place you'll finder on Australium TV is 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.400 right here on Paul Murray Live on a Wednesday night. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.880 It was so fun. It was the most epic trol 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.400 of all time. We just kept making fun of them 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.080 and spitting out their stupid lines. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:08.560 Now, the way I'm going to try and start our 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.200 shows for the next little while is to say, firstly, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.679 something we can all agree upon. Now, we all remember 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.400 the footy teams from our youth, and sometimes the footy 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.080 teams that aren't around anymore, the footy teams that merged 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.080 with the other footy teams. A perfect example would be 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.280 from rugby league in New South Wales and the mighty 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:45.360 North Sydney Bears. Oh an era when it was nothing 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.400 but six pack and a full pack of smokes in 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.800 the stands. They was from nineteen eighty two. Will have 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.360 been gone for a while after the various wars of 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.840 rugby league and they've never returned. They've tried to find 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.280 multiple ways back into the competition via the central coast 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.440 of New South Wales, but it has been confirmed today 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.280 that the Bears will be moving to Western Australia. Roger Cook, 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.520 the Western Australian Premier, will be stumping up the cash 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.519 on the behalf of the Western Australian people. About sixty 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.200 five million dollars I think is the cost of the deal. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.679 That's not sixty five million a year, but I think 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.400 that's the deal, and a means a game will be 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.959 played seven thirty on a Saturday night or nine to 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.639 thirty on the East Coast. Many Super Saturday just got 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:28.360 even more super. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.200 Not only will this be great news for sports fans, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.800 it's great news for our economy and great news for jobs. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.000 The new club will compete in the NRL Premiership competition 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.720 for the first time in twenty twenty seven or twenty 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.960 twenty eight, and it will deliver a return for taxpayers. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.160 Now, the thing is the announcement seems to have made 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.760 maybe a day early. But when you're stumping up the 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.480 cash and you want to give you good information that 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.560 rugby league fans will have a team playing out of 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.720 the West the first time since the Western Reads back 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.400 for a couple of seasons in the nineteen nineties. Roger 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.280 Cook was faster to social media. For the NROL, they'll 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.120 have more to say tomorrow, but its chief executive has 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.440 always been excited about the idea of more teams, particularly 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.960 one in the West. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.120 It's exciting that we are talking about expansion and clearly 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.320 Western Australia is a great market for us. You know, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.280 when the Western reads were firing, we had fifteen sixteen 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.840 thousand reads to participants. So it's a great opportunity for 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.080 us in terms of a national blue brand. Very exciting 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:36.560 opportunity and hopefully we were able to finalize something that adds. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:37.120 A lot of dage the game. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.280 The business case stacks up and we're certainly heading in 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:39.920 the right direction. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:40.920 Well. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.200 Congratulations to all involved, most importantly the North Sydney Bears 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.320 finding a way to get their logo, to get their 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.240 name back in lights in rugby league where it has 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.960 long been lost and very much is well deserved. Let's 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.720 send our attention to the inquest that is taking place 0:03:55.800 --> 0:04:01.240 into the events last year at Bondi Westfield when that 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.880 awful lunatic ran around with his knife and killed too 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.360 many people. In this inquest, thus far we have seen 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:15.160 incredible detail of the perspective from the hero police officer 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.919 who ended up confronting and taking him down. But today 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:24.360 we also learn about maybe, just maybe a moment when 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.640 this man could have been caught and may well have 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.039 been in jail at the time of the stabbings. Now, 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.920 police and our security authorities they have to get it right. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.840 One hundred percent of the time. You think about this 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.239 in terms of terrorist attacks, that they've got to stop 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.679 one hundred of them. It's not good enough to stop 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.440 ninety nine, but they've got to stop one hundred percent 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.480 of them. The reality is, in this situation, there was 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:52.320 an intersection with police a couple of years before all 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.279 of this had took place. The person who went on 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.480 to take those lives in Bondi had called the police 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.279 on his own parents because his parents in the Mighty 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.800 part of Queensland that is to Woomba, had taken off 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:10.440 him a series of military knives. This was part of 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.640 the interaction that police had at the moment and a 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.040 bit of an insight into the system that means it's 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.880 very difficult to take people off the streets, even when 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.560 you know there are weapons and mental health issues. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.080 His mother at that moment telling another officer her son 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.240 is unmedicated for schizophrenia, has been in a rage and 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.760 needs to go to hospital, but the officers determine he 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.359 doesn't meet the threshold for emergency examination. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.200 Because of course he was not a physical threat to 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.720 the police at the time. But remember the reason they 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.520 were being called was because of the dangerous weapons that 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.200 his family was trying to take off him. Also at 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:56.440 the inquest today we heard about a fatal flaw in 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.120 the people who were managing the Westfield shopping center on 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.719 that day. Now whether it was going to be able 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.359 to save lives at the very least, a warning should 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.440 have been done well the moment people knew something was wrong. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.599 But it appears that that warning never happened. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.919 A public announcement wasn't made warning of an armed defender 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:24.920 until fourteen minutes after Joel Couci was shot dead. Joseph 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.599 Gerlin was twenty nine years old and two months on 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.920 the job, as sent to manager, conceding it should have 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.719 been done sooner, but said he was terrified and did 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.799 the very best that he could. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.240 The hearing continues as they say, this is all, of course, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.520 about finding out more information about how to prevent things. Interestingly, 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.359 some things have already come out thus far about the 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.680 communication system, a lack of communication, and decisions that were 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.960 made about when people could or couldn't enter the building 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:59.039 to try to offer more assistance. I wanted to crime 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.320 in Victoria before I get to the election, because it 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.960 remains a very significant problem. For some reason, there is 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.520 an awful lot of organized crime that is involved in 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:14.040 the fire bombing of everything from cafes all the way 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.600 through to tobacconists. This is an issue that is causing 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.680 an awful lot of not just property damage, but fear. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.720 And then there was an event which took place early 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:29.240 this morning. It was in Camperfield and it was a 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.800 fire bombing that turned out to also take out a 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.480 pet shop that was next door. And for those of 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.360 us who love our animals, relax, I'm not going to 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:43.320 be showing you anything too traumatic. But the result was 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.080 that many, many animals were killed. This was the store 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.320 that was not targeted, but the story that was next 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.520 door to it. According to the Herald's son, the owner 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.520 of King's Pets has been completely which has been completely 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.080 raised by fire. Is heartbroken. Hundreds of birds have perished, 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:03.440 thousands of fish and also lots of rabbits. It's a 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.760 massive shock and we are heartbroken, says the owner. Twenty 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.560 baby turtles and a handful of fish have reportedly survived. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.240 I think you saw part of that in some of 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.200 those pictures. The local police have referred to the mood 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.480 of the owner for obvious reasons, not just because they've 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.600 lost the business, but because they love the very animals 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.040 that they wish to sell on to the rest of 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.640 us as pets. As being distraught business owner has expected 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.200 as on scene and is distraught along with their neighboring 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.599 businesses because obviously an incident like this affects multiple persons, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.040 not hiding from the election. I'll get to it in 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.480 a moment or two's time. We'll talk about it a 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.760 lot with seven Connery and with Bromwin Bishop. But the 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.880 Age Care Minister is a person that I have spoken 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.160 of many times, and I know that she loves blocking 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.840 all sorts of criticism, as any criticism that she receives 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.960 on her Facebook page, and she thinks she is on 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.320 her line to one day being a lot more than 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.720 she currently is, which is the Sports Minister where she 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.679 flies around the country well for free on the taxpayer dollars. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.840 She gets the seats to all the big games. But 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.440 she's also the Agecare Minister. This is a person who 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.240 loves social media and loves sort of the girl boss 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.920 and turning herself into a celebrity of Australian politics. Remember 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.839 she explained the federal budget through the lens of merit 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.360 at first sight well, as I say, she has responsibility 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.640 for aged care and while she is not specifically responsible 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.400 for what happens at each and every age care center, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.560 can We read from the Daily Telegraph today that Saint 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:32.079 Jude's Healthcare Services has had its homes sanctioned. An Australian 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.120 agecare home where elderly people reportedly feeling embarrassed by the 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.600 smell and not truated with respect, has failed to meet 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.959 any of the industry's quality standards. It's been slapped with 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.720 a sanction which means it can't take any more residence, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.120 i can't grow its business for the next few months. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.680 The Agecare Watchdog has found that the home and a 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.280 specific home in an affluent suburb of Perth which is 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:02.000 operated by Saint Jude's Healthcare Services, had incidents involving the 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:06.960 possible abuse or neglect. The Watchdog had a look at 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.000 this place in December. It followed with a look in 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.400 January and most, if not all, of the conditions were 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.080 failed to be met, as you can see there. Of 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.720 the forty two that were thirty eight where they fell short. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.120 There's a little less time on the TikTok and a 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.640 little more time on following up, but at least the 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.560 system has been able to catch what has been going 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.760 on there. And the families deserve better, let alone, of course, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.240 the residents who absolutely deserve much better than what seemingly 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.959 they have been getting. All Right, politics here now it 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.000 begins the demands on a Prime Minister who is still 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.880 basking in the glow of that record election win. It 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.760 doesn't just set him up in Labour Party history but 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.000 Australian political history as one of the most successful leaders 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.760 of the Labor Party. Now, one of the reasons I 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.280 think they were able to get there was because the 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.839 media was more than fine with them not telling us 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:01.280 what the twenty thirty five climate targets would be. You see, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.640 the two thousand and thirty targets caused big trouble for 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.200 Bill Shorten in twenty nineteen. They had to pretend it 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.199 was two hundred and seventy five dollars and hundreds of 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.800 thousands of jobs to get through the twenty twenty two elections. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.840 So they thought, Bargaret, let's not deal with it at all. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.760 But the reality is, in terms of the left of 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.440 Australian politics, the law that has already been passed for 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.160 Australia to cut forty three percent of one percent of 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.240 the world's emissions is not enough. And while those numbers 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.520 have met zero are twenty fifty and forty three percent 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.040 of one percent is two thousand and thirty. Australia of 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.319 course wants to host one of these climate conferences, meaning 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.120 all pressure will be on the Australian government to up 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.440 the number from where it currently is. Now we know 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.560 what the consequences of that when it comes to energy, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.800 and we all know what the consequences will be for 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.199 things like industrial farming. But the election did not include 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.600 this as a debate, a failure of the opposition to 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.120 do so. But then again, it itself was not willing 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.839 to say what its targets would be for twenty thirty five, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.120 so everyone just put it in the two hard basket. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.120 But instead of having the opportunity to have a debate 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.880 and then have a vote on it, by not having 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.800 any conversation, the number will simply just be set. And 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.320 with the numbers as they currently are in the House 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.839 a monster majority and now the Labor Party growing the 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.760 number of senators it has, will only need the Greens 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.960 to pass any increase in those targets. So we read 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.040 today that Labor Party MPs, along with activists in the party, 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.760 are now suggesting that the current rate of forty three 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.240 percent of one percent of the world's emissions to be 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.920 cut by twenty thirty should become seventy percent of one 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.640 percent of the world's emissions just five years later in 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.960 twenty thirty five. Now the teals they too have argued 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.599 for this before, you see, they have argued that it 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.440 should be seventy five percent. So this would have been 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.000 one of those negotiating tactics should there have been a 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.400 minority government. But now that that's not needed, it's the 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.520 backbench and the membership that are demanding it. And today 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.440 via The Australian, we learned that Labour's environmental wing is 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.720 pushing Anthony Alberinezi to adopt seventy plus percent emissions reduction 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.920 targets for twenty thirty five. With the nature of the 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.840 Parliament as it is, all of this would be law. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.600 There would be no debate, there would be no turning back. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.320 And they say in part this should be because of 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.520 a reward. Why because they re elected Labor MPs and 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:28.320 they didn't talk when the government was approving gas. In 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.199 the past few years, the group of five thousand members 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.720 poured resources into helping people win environment vote or the 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.400 Environment vote in places like Benelong, Sydney, McNamara and Melbourne, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.920 as well as Griffith and the party. Activist says that 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.840 the big majority win on Saturday was an opportunity for 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.040 the government to undertake major reforms to protect the natural environment. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.400 Among other things, she says nature positives should come back. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.480 Even though the Prime Minister pretended that was going away, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.479 we told you it was coming back. And Ms Wade 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.840 has also said that there should be at least seventy 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.319 percent emissions cut to one percent of the world's problem 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.960 by twenty twenty five, just to give you an idea 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.160 of how far left the membership of the Labor Party 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.160 has gone and thus many of the unions who supported 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.440 or the members who make up the backbench and even 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:24.360 the cabinet. The idea of seventy percent reduction by twenty 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.320 thirty or twenty thirty five is exactly the policy of 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:33.280 the Greens from the two thousand and twenty year so 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.760 straight after the twenty nineteen election now gone, Adam Bant, 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.040 we're saying seventy five percent. Labor now a few years 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.960 later says seventy percent, but simply while the Greens may 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.440 well be diminished from I'll get to that in the 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.280 second the things that they have believed in and argued 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.000 for are now front and center, and people who helped 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.760 get the government a major majority on Saturday are now 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.040 saying time to pay up. Because we never had a 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.760 debate about what percentage should be the appropriate percentage at 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.240 this last election. Then guess what's going to happen? Major 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.320 changes currently forty three percent, even if it became fifty 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.320 three sixty three percent, let alone seventy percent. That has 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.240 dramatic changes to the way that our country works. But 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.480 it was all the too hard basket for the past 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.680 three months. As for Adam Bant, well he's gone. You 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.040 will have heard by now that the formal call has 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.240 been made by the Sky News decision desk. Multiple other 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.040 media organizations are suggesting there is no way for the 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.000 bad DJ from Melbourne to be able to find a 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.080 way to hold on to his seat. Here is Tom 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.000 Connell making that announcement and explaining his logic as to 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.560 why there's no chance for the Boy and Green. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.000 We're assuming lots of positives for Bant from here and 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.760 he still would need sixty three percent. So given that 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.000 I know there's plenty of vote left, we are now 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.240 saying the Labour Party will pick up the seat of 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.920 Melbourne and Adam Bant, the Green's leader, will lose the seed. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:00.080 Of mal. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.120 Now for those that are saying ding dong the Greens 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.560 are dead, well I would love it to be the case. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.520 As Mark Twain famously said, or probably was just attributed 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.240 to him, the reports of his death were very much exaggerated. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.480 Well you have to say that about the Greens. Yes, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.280 most likely they will end up with maximum one seats 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.560 in the lower House. All of the remaining seats that 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:25.920 they had they had four to three of them will 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.520 go to Labor. One probably will hold on and that'll 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.200 be in the seat of Ryan In and around sort 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.800 of the era of Tou Wong in Brisbane. But the 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.000 reality is the Greens aren't dead. In fact, they become 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.640 even more powerful after this election. Why because they're going 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.120 to have eleven members of the Senate. Those eleven members 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.240 in the Senate plus the performance of the Labor Party 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.440 at this election means they don't need Jackie Lambie anymore. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.560 They don't need dor Matt Dave Pocock, they don't need 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.320 Tammy Tyrrell, they don't need anyone else apart from the 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:58.840 Greens to pass anything. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:16:59.320 Now. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.280 Obviously, if the Coalition get together with the Greens, that's 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.720 a mega majority. But every piece of legislation now goes 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.920 through the door of the Greens. So all I would 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.199 love to say, ding dong, the band is gone and 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.560 all the rest of it reality is for a bill 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.600 to become a law in Australia if the Coalition opposes it, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:21.760 the Greens are going to be required. As for latest counting, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.359 where things are getting slightly better for the Coalition in 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.160 certain seats, slightly better for the Teal and at least 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:29.720 one of those that we had all wished we were 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.040 going to change on Saturday night. These are the very 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.960 very thin silver linings in a very very black cloud 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.520 in the seat of Longman, which is in southeast Queensland. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.000 This is one that's been held by the LNP for 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.720 a long time. Terry Young seems to be doing fairly well. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.879 With eighty percent of the vote counted, he has a 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.840 lead of four hundred and seventy one votes. Postals will 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.919 help the LMP pre pole potentially helps Labor. So no 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.160 one's saying what's going to happen here. In the seat 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.239 of Bradfield, where eighty seven percent of the vote has 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.199 been counted, the Liberal is back in front of the 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.960 teal t one hundred and fifteen votes. Now, people who 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.080 voted outside of the electorate absent on the day, those 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.879 votes may well come back towards the Teal, the postals 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.119 may well come back towards the Liberal, and then there 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:12.879 might be a few others to go. So nobody is 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.520 saying which way that's going to fall, But you prefer 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:19.159 to be in front than behind. Also Amelia Hamer a 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.560 little bit in front, a little bit behind. But tonight, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.639 with eighty two percent of the vote counted in Kujong 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.840 Menikue Ryan has a lead of seven hundred and one votes. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.199 Again the libs hoping that postal votes, but at some 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.840 point that's going to start to run out, and whether 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.760 that lead could be run down between now and then 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.800 we'll all find out together. And the seat of Monash, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.720 I don't know why this hasn't been called, but the 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.320 Liberal Party is up by nine thousand votes, presumably with 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.719 eighty five percent counted. There's an assumption that something's going 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.840 to happen when it comes to pre Pole. But worth noting, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.679 and the one nobody wants to talk about, certainly from 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:53.640 the Labour side, is a place in the Act where 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.280 a Teal is up by two hundred and forty one 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.720 votes with eighty six percent counted. They were happy for 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.119 the Teals to slowly but surely chew up the Libs. Well, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.080 there's a chance in the seat of Fremantle and in 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.040 the seat of Being that it will be a deal 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.760 that's going to end up overtaking the Labor Party before 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.280 we get to Ireland. One more thing about the potential 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.760 leadership and whom should be the next leader of the 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.960 Liberal Party. Look, officially it's down to Angus Taylor. Unofficially 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.080 it's down to Angus Taylor versus Susan Lay. But we 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.040 don't know what Dan ten is going to do, and 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.320 presumably he has enough votes to make one of them 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.080 the leader. Tonight we hear that Susan Lay is offering 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.399 people jobs to get things over the line. We also 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.639 hear that Angus Taylor's people is trying to dump research 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:37.239 to kill off susan Lay's chances. Again, I say, of 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.280 the twelve seats that were lost at the last federal election, 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:45.400 twelve of them had more female voters than men. Let's 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.200 see what happens in the next. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.560 Of the war, all right. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.560 Colin Flynn is the man who is part of the 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.479 reporting in and around the Vatican right now as the 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.199 paper conclave has begun its deliberations they started to make 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.399 their way through in the past hour and joins us 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:04.120 now from the Vatican column. Obviously, let's not get down 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.320 to the who is next, but give us an idea 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:10.080 of where things have moved between the Pope's death a 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.440 couple of weeks ago and where we are going into 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.119 the conclve have things changed in terms of who we 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:17.800 think might end up being there? 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.920 Well, you know, Paul, as they say, according to canon law, 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.240 which is the law that governs the entire Catholic Church, 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.160 the running of the institution, that says that any baptized 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.240 male in the world could be picked as the pope. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.000 So technically it could be you, but. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.480 That hasn't happened since the twelfth century, so it will 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.320 come from the College of Cardinals. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.000 But you know, so much has happened over the past 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:40.600 couple of weeks. 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.240 Even for myself as a journalist covering this, I think 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.679 I'm the only reporter of the world who was in 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.199 weather Sarah's in Argentina, the Pope's home country, standing at 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.879 the spot where he was born, speaking to his childhood friends, 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.479 the people who worked closely with and his family, and 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.640 then flying back to Rome within a few days reporting 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:57.359 on his passing. 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.280