1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi guys. So on today's episode, you've just got 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: me lil on me and we have Blakey joining us 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: for the episode today. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Hi again, Hi again. I missed you guys. Yeah, I know, 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: like a hot minute, not even for like a question 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: of the week. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: It's been a bloody long time. So welcome back, Welcome back, 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: girly girl. I said, I don't know if you guys 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: have been seeing on social media recently how people call 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: guys baby girl, like he's so baby girl. Oh do 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: I've heard it. You're so baby. 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are like Cooper Coach from Monsters, the one 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: that played Eric Menandez. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: I didn't watch it. I famously have not watched many movies. 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: Right, But if you see his interviews, so sweet and 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: he's just it's just like he's so baby girl, you're so. 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Baby I'll happily be baby girl. Yeah. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a compliment. 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: It's a good thing. 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: We do have a quick episode this week, but we 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: are just going to be running through is it cheating? 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Is it not not cheating? But I think there needs 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: to be a third category of is it breakup with? 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: I think a fourth category. I was going through Now 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: I've obviously put them all together, and there's some where 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: I can look at objectively and I'm like, I'm not 28 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: in that relationship. That's not cheating. But then I look within, 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I've got a boyfriend right now. If he 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: fucking did. 31 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: That, yeah, is it cheating? 32 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: Not cheating? 33 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Breakup worthy and gray zone, Like, I probably wouldn't break 34 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: up with him, but it would be a fucking problem. 35 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: It would be a four month episode, you know, it 36 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: would be one. 37 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Of those things that you never fully let go of. 38 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I've got a few of those carry on. 39 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: For the rest of your relationship, all right, which is 40 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: always really fun when that sort of stuff happens. 41 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Okay, So I obviously received all these submissions, and it's 42 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: not because I think some of them are cheating or 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: not cheating. I'm just like, some of these are really funny. 44 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: First one, getting a happy ending at a massage place cheating. 45 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like that is another human touching your genitals. Cheating. 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Girls, Do not let your man get the happy ending. 47 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: No, I just morally don't think it's right. But yeah, 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: that is absolutely fucking cheating, And don't let your boy 49 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: tell you how wise there was another woman with her 50 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: hand around his veenis. 51 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: And don't question it, like you did not have to 52 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: send this submission in we could pretty easily close the case. 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: That is cheating, not okay, getting explicit photos from girls 54 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: and then saying I can't control what she sends. 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: Fuck break up worthy, Yes, because it's like why she's 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: like I need to read the conversation. 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just like whether he's jumped to I can't 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: control what she sends. Why are you getting defensive? You 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: should be yelling at her saying excuse me, I have 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: a girlfriend, Yeah, don't. 61 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: It's different if it's like you know, sometimes when you 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: have a platform of some kind, you might just get 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: around them. Dick pig in your inbox. That's different because 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: it's like I have not engaged this person whatsoever, and 65 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: that's just plopped in my inbox. 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 67 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. If you're having a conversation with the girl and 68 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: you've said send me saucs, that's cheating. 69 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: What do you call like? 70 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: I call them sauces like honor sauces are like when 71 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: like if you're like sending a photo to your boyfriend 72 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: or something, and you're like in like your underwear or something, 73 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: but oh, yeah, no, I think I called them saucs. 74 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: I never put a name to her. 75 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: I just feel like saucy sounds. 76 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm just like, hey, check check, send me saucy. Hey, 77 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: you make sure your parents run herround. I just yeah, 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: I just pushed them towards it. They can call it 79 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: what they want. Has a girl best friend that asked 80 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: him to go to formal and he was very adamant 81 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: ongoing without asking me. I think she's obviously the girlfriend. 82 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, gray zone something that I'll never let go. 83 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like, I'm sure they could have a 84 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: lifelong friendship. 85 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the fact that you haven't asked you should 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, if. 87 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: You're leaving your girlfriend single for what. 88 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: If the girlfriend goes to a different school, that might 89 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: be the because he wouldn't leave his girlfriend. 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: You can really tell that. I've grown up in a 91 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: country town and there's only one skill. 92 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, the girlfriend probably goes to another girls. Wow. 93 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: I would say if there is just purely friendship between 94 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: him and the girl, he should feel comfortable asking his girlfriend, 95 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: because the girlfriend should be like, okay, like if it's 96 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: just purely friendship, but if there's something else going on 97 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: to the point where you he just was like, I'd 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: be annoyed. 99 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: That he didn't ask me. I would too. 100 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and why are you so adamant? Why are you 101 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: so excited? 102 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so you spoke about this on the episode with 103 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: Jordan and Zach. But liking a girl's Instagram story, I 104 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: know we went behind like it is shooting your shop. Yeah. 105 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: No, my boyfriend shall not be liking any other girl's 106 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: Instagram friend Ye no, unless they're friends. Like you know, 107 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: I have a big group of boys and girls friends, 108 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: and like, if one of those boys likes my Instagram, sorry, 109 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't take it as anything even if they have, 110 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: you know. But it's like if it's a round them girl, no, 111 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: because the girl will take it a certain way. So 112 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: I would say it's a gray zone. I don't think 113 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I'd dumped them competitively done. 114 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: And it's really hard and we shouldn't be throwing guys' 115 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: fucking hints on how to cheat. It is hard to 116 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: read the background of a like, oh well, I just 117 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 2: really liked the house. Shoot. 118 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be fucking happy and even continue to happen. 119 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: It would be a problem because look, it depends on 120 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: who the girl is, what the story is. It depends 121 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: on all of that. But even if, like even if 122 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: they're like a photo of a dog and I see 123 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: some guy with a girlfriend that's liked my Instagram, I'm 124 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna be like, why the fuck did you like my story? 125 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 126 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always agreed, But with the liking of the story, 127 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: what to me? Because even people like my stories, but 128 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, well one taken two, I can't actually respond 129 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: to it, so I have to then go and message 130 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: you otherwise, not even related to the like on my story. 131 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: How smooth is it? Like, surely there's better ways to shoot. 132 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't think liking a story is smooth because, like 133 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: I've said, I can't see them. I can only see 134 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: the most recent like three likes until like two days 135 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: later if I actually go and look for them. 136 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never have done. 137 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: So it's like you'll like my story, I won't notice, 138 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: I won't see it, and no one will because if 139 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: you get more than three lights on a story, they disappeared. 140 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: So I'd say like reacting to a story with like 141 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: the heart or the fire or something is definitely more 142 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: of a way to shoot your shop one hundred percent 143 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: helps up in the inbox, then you can respond, do 144 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah? 145 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: Who would have thought we were advocating for a fucking story? React? 146 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I st it reacts. It's okay, it's easy. It's 147 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: like a subtle, easy little way to just say. 148 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, except it's how my mum messages me. Yeah. Yeah, 149 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: so still find a smoother way. But that's just like 150 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: the cracks in the flaws in the story. 151 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that's a gray zone one the lacking 152 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: of this. 153 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, agreed. So these two came from the same person, 154 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: and I kind of want to understand the narrative behind 155 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: this somber one sharing a bed with another female and 156 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: not telling your partner cheating. But then after she said 157 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: building a pillow wall and sleeping in the same bed 158 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: as another girl sleep on the floor, Yeah, why so 159 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: much effort. 160 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's cheating. 161 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: I don't. 162 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be happy about it. But it's like, once again, 163 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: it's one of those situations where it depends who it is. 164 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: If it's like totally. 165 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: A friend of ours in the same friendship group or something, 166 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: I would probably trust the girl too, and I wouldn't 167 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: think it would be an issue, but it's like it 168 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: totally depends on who the chick is. 169 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the pillow wall does rule it out. 170 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: It does. 171 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: It's fine, but just like. 172 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Sleep with the couch or I'm sure there's girls in 173 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: the house. Why can't they share a bed and you 174 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: share with your eMates. 175 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: And like anxious thoughts. I'm like, but I'm like, a 176 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: pillow wall is not a brick wall. 177 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, you can move the pillows, 178 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, it's a gray zone. I 179 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: don't think i'd be happy with it if it was 180 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: a random girl. 181 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: No giving another girl your jacket on a night out 182 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: because they are could. 183 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: These are so hard. 184 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: I actually know. That's why I've put so many of 185 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: them down. 186 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm exposing myself as like, yeah, I think 187 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: because I have been cheated on now a couple of times, 188 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I do feel very I imagine these things happening in 189 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: my parst relationships, and I just like it makes my 190 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: blood boil. But it depends who it is. Like, if 191 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: it's a friend, let's just say in all of these 192 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: it's not a mate. They're giving a jacket to a 193 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: random like a girl that they've met. That is not okay. 194 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: It is going to be a fucking problem, But I 195 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: won't break up. I don't think it's cheating. 196 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: What would you prefer complete random or a girl that 197 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: you might be friendly with but you're not tight random? 198 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean, no girl I'm friendly with. But then it's like, 199 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: do they like my boyfriend? 200 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: I know, no one's safe. I don't think it's cheating, 201 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: but it's like the jack, Like the guy giving the 202 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: girl the jacket. That is a real classic, Like it's 203 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: a sentiment behind Yeah, it's like the connection between those two. 204 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: I would feel a bit jipped and ripped off if 205 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: you know, my boyfriend did that to someone else. Yeah, 206 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: could I see it as cheating? No, but that'll be word. 207 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: We would have an argument about it, Yeah we would. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 208 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: Just keep your fucking shit to yourself, you know what 209 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean. But then sometimes it's nice if it's like 210 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: a friend and a friend of mine, say, and it's 211 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: a girl and they're like giving them the jacket, It's like, well, 212 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: that's just them being like. 213 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: I know, because you always want them to be amazing 214 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: to your girlfriend. 215 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want my boyfriend to be close with my friends. 216 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: I think the big learning from this episode is it's 217 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: like super based off contacts totally and who it is. Yeah, 218 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: giving a stranger of the opposite sex a left home 219 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: after the club? Why are you driving after the club? 220 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, why are you driving after the club? No, 221 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: it's not cheating. Once again, let's just pretend that these 222 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: are not friends of mine or yours? Do you know 223 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? 224 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have. 225 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: There'd be worse. They'd be words. 226 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a lot of words. 227 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: How do I know that nothing we're not seeing. I 228 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: do think I have trust issues and I'm seeing that 229 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: come out in the way that I'm acting. Yeah, I don't. 230 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be fine with it. But then 231 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: you want the girl to be safe. But then it's 232 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: like if you're not, I don't know, I don't know. 233 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: Thank god for the gray zone, right. 234 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank god for the gray zone. It's not break 235 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: up worthy, it's not. 236 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: I forgot to mention at the top of this, I 237 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: was on the podcast for the last time we did this, 238 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: and I was reading them out. We actually spoke about 239 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: this last ye time. But I just like one for 240 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: people who haven't listened and they want to hear our 241 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: thoughts on it to intrigue, to hear if anyone's sorts 242 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,359 Speaker 2: of change. Subscribing to only Fans. 243 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: It's break up worthy For me, it's cheating. 244 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: You think it's cheating, Yeah, but I've had a lot 245 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: of peace. People say that they're not okay with it, 246 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: but I feel like they don't understand fully why. 247 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason I don't say cheating is because say 248 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: we ended because of it, I then would don't think 249 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: I would be able to say, oh, yeah, he cheated 250 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: on me because he like, you know, when you say 251 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: cheated on me, you think they've kissed us that with 252 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: someone else, you know. Yeah, So I don't think I 253 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: would consider it cheating, but I definitely think I would 254 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: not be able to be with them if they've done that, 255 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: because it's sexual sexual pictures of another girl. 256 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: I know. And it's like the real juggle is because 257 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: I feel like only Fans is actually more ethical than 258 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: free poem because at least the creators are getting paid fuckes. Yeah, yeah, 259 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: so that kudos to that. But then the problem with 260 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: being in a relationship and then subscribing to it. I 261 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: think the problem for me is the accessibility you can 262 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: message them on that on only fans you can interact 263 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: with them. It's a lot more personal, you. 264 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: Know, when you go. There's a lot more personal than 265 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: say a porn star, you know, because they're welton around 266 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: in Melbourne a lot of the time. These girls just 267 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: like they're girls you you might know, you might be 268 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: an events with and your boyfriend's subscribing to see pictures 269 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: of them naked. It would make me uncomfortable. 270 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god. This one was my favorite. Kissing kissing 271 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: my gay boy best friend because he was wondering what 272 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: it was like to kiss a guy. 273 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Uh, I, yes, you've kised someone else. I think, Yeah, 274 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: you've kissed someone else, So I think on the basic level, yeah, 275 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: i'd consider it cheating. 276 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 2: And if you want to know what it's like to 277 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: kiss a guy, I don't know how to word this, 278 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: but would he not kiss a straight guy? And I 279 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: know that doesn't work, but I. 280 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Need to kiss a guy that is attracted to them. 281 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, to me, that's more unethical. Yeah, they're just. 282 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: Kissing your mate, and it's like I think we're both imagining. 283 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: It's not a peck, it's like they're making out. Yeah, 284 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: And that to me, you've kissed someone else, but. 285 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Also so bold to go for the gay best. 286 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: Friend, and like, why do you even know what it's 287 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: like to kiss a guy we're dating? I'm not a guy. 288 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: Love that. I didn't even think that for one second 289 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: because why do you give it? 290 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 291 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: But oh my god, that is actually so funny. 292 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: Do you think that's cheating? 293 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's like fuck. 294 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Imagine bringing me Like, Okay, let's say you said to 295 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: your boyfriend, can I make out with my best friend, 296 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: my female best friend, to see what it's like to 297 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: because a girl? Do you think do you now think 298 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: that that's. 299 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: A really good question? Yeah? Well, like I promise to God, 300 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: like there's nothing about a girl. I love my girlies, 301 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: but girls just don't get me. 302 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Movie girls just yeah, don't get that. I like, girls 303 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: don't get me. 304 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: Moving now I think of it, I've kissed girls in 305 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: front of my boyfriend. Yeah, I'm just like pecking my 306 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: girlies on like this explore like making it. Yeah no 307 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: no no no, that's violation like pex q tex. Yeah 308 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: yeah I don't. Yeah, okay, I'm going to say to 309 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: my thing, no, I'm not cheating. But question marks why 310 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: he chose a gay guy best friend that's the great guy. Yeah, 311 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: Like I actually think, yeah, that's worse. 312 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because it's like, you know they're attracted to. 313 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: You, Well they could be exactly. 314 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: It's not like every guy guy's attracted to every guy, 315 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not attracted to every guy either, so I 316 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: still just think it's off. 317 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: Also, I feel like in ten years there's going to 318 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: be no submissions like these. Is it cheating if your 319 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: boyfriend blows vape smoke into another girl's mouth? 320 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's odd and I would be like, 321 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: fuck do you do that for? Like you look like 322 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: a loser, But like I know it's not cheating, it's not, 323 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: but like it's eky, it's just weird. 324 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: You're emarrazing because I know it's something you do with cigarettes. 325 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe it's a sexual doing it with like cigarettes, 326 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: but it's like I don't really think it is. I 327 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: just more think it's like, what was the woint of that? 328 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: You kind of look like I if I turn around 329 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: and my boyfriend was blowing faces and I could do 330 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: a chick's mouth, I'd be like, what the fuck did 331 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: you do that for? 332 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: It's tack. 333 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: It's tacky. Is that what you said? Ta tak Yeah, 334 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: tack tacky Yeah, okay, learning shortened, Yeah, No, it's icky. 335 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: I think I would want to break up with me 336 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: as I'm unattracted to them now. 337 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: But it's yeah, cheating, Okay, so I've got three more 338 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: skinny dipping with a group of people after a night 339 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: out without your partner. 340 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: I think I would have some serious words. 341 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: I do too, I think like one for the like 342 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: leaving your partner out of it, but to at the 343 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: very least asking for her permission. 344 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Like let's say I'm just not there and it's like 345 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: a party that I wasn't at and then you're all 346 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: skinny dipping it, which is I think it makes you uncomfortable. 347 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: Like there's something about like I think the privacy of 348 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: like your partner and like their body and like that's 349 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: like absolutely no. And I think if I knew that 350 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,119 Speaker 1: there were girls, I think it would make me uncomfortable. 351 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't think it's cheating, I know, but I just 352 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: don't think it's. 353 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: I'd be upset as why you felt it was necessary, why. 354 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: You wanted to do that, Yeah, and just like thinking 355 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: on the receiving end of that, like for a partner 356 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: to see that a group of people naked together going 357 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: skinny dipping, like sure they I think it can. 358 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes do a bit of a sexual thing, even like 359 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: if there's like a guy you have a question on 360 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: you're skinny dipping. I don't actually think I've ever gone 361 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: skinny dipp which is so fucking right. Maybe with the 362 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: girls I have with the girl yeah yeah, yeah, not 363 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: around guys, but it's like I feel like the guys 364 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: then looking it's just a bit more of a I 365 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I it's not happy, but I don't think 366 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: it's cheating it what upset me though. 367 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: You have to ask first, at the bare minimum, whanking 368 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: to girls on social media? I just think that's gross 369 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: first and foremost. 370 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: I guess that's like porn. 371 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: No, yeah, but kind of back to what I said, 372 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: ARI only fans similar thing. 373 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Like a similar thing exactly. 374 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: It's a real life person that you know, and you 375 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: have the access to message and you can follow her 376 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: and potentially be followed back or just get chatting. No, 377 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: that's a line. 378 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: No, I agree. I'd rather them use porn, you know, 379 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like the porn starts are less accessible. 380 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: Therefore it's not as buch totally. You know, But I 381 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: don't really know how I feel about porn. I don't 382 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: think I have that much of an issue with it 383 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: unless it's like I'm sitting next to you and you've 384 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: decided to go to the bathroom and use porn when 385 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: your partner's there. But it's like, if I'm away for 386 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: a week and you need to use fucking porn to 387 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: get off, then I don't think I have an issue yet. 388 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And just like, don't let it become a thing. 389 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: Just like if we're running late for dinners because you're 390 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: fucking doing that, then that's. 391 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't even be able to tell you if 392 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: my exes were using porn when I wasn't around, you 393 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'd rather it that way. I 394 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: don't need to see it. You don't don't do it 395 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: one I'm there. 396 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: It's still awkward. 397 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't think my exes did. 398 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. If you're listening, did you? 399 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: Did you texting and talent? Yeah, I don't know. I 400 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: think porn's a really gray area because it depends it is. Yeah, 401 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I think if your partners regularly using porn when you're 402 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: around I think it's a problem. 403 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: And last one sends casual but tensing topless picks on Snapchat. 404 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: That is cheating as in two other girls, that is cheating, cheating, 405 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: and carem sauces to another girl that is that is 406 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: you were wanting a response to that. You were wanting 407 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: something sexual in response to that. 408 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: But it was Snapchat too. 409 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, snapchats dodge as I think I've used Snapchat in 410 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: like six years. I have one group with like all 411 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: my mates on it, and like, I love them all, 412 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: but I don't really open it much because there's like 413 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: thousands coming in a day. Yeah, but if a boy said, 414 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: what's your Snapchat? Ick, I'm twenty four, I'm aged out. 415 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: Of Snapchat, so I you and Sam all the time 416 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: say like, obviously Snapchat has an age limit, be using 417 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: it pasted age. I don't advocate for snupchat. I yeah, 418 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: but I've got this streak with one of my best 419 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: girlfriends that's okay, and we can't get rid of me. 420 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: I have friends that still use Snapchat regularly. I just 421 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: think if a guy asked for my Snapchat or wanted 422 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: to talk on Snapchat, I just would be like, there's 423 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: so many other i'd bother you text me. I'd honestly 424 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: rather you message me on Instagram. 425 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't Instagram new Snapchat anyway, because you can send 426 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: disappearing picks. 427 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh did. 428 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: You not know that? 429 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I knew that, but I would never 430 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: like consider it. 431 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you do know that. 432 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, but it's like I wouldn't were as snapchat. 433 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: I think it's been used too many times to be sneaky, 434 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: and that's why I think there's it's just a bit 435 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: like of a childish out in the sense of like 436 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: like if I found out my boyfriend was snapchatting another chick, 437 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: I'd be like, why does it need to be on Snapchat? 438 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Why can't you talk to them on Messenger? Are you hiding? 439 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'd. 440 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: Be break if my boyfriend's sending sauces. I'm breakingant there. 441 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: I agree. 442 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, see you ladies. 443 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: You and I both do you and I both well 444 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: that was just a few of our submissions. I feel 445 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: like we should canntinue this, and I. 446 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely we'll do it with Sam. I know she'd love 447 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: to do it. We love you, guys, Thanks for listening 448 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: to our little quick he's a cheating Bye bye