WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 1 October

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Burray Live. Thank you, Shazza,

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<v Speaker 1>stay safe for Seala Telly next week. All the best

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<v Speaker 1>to you in the community for the day's ahead. No

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<v Speaker 1>suks now left us tonight. There's no build up other

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<v Speaker 1>than that. That's what tonight's show is. Of course, as

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about everything that's around today. That means Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham will join us for a life from Darwin James

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<v Speaker 1>Morrow here in the man Cave and then we go

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<v Speaker 1>over to the UK where Nigel Farage. The only place

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<v Speaker 1>to Seemlozsi Telly is here each and every week on

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday, So I'm glad that's going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of things you may not have heard

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<v Speaker 1>about thus far today. As we know, Australians are finding

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<v Speaker 1>it very difficult to find a place to rent. Your kids,

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<v Speaker 1>your grandkids are finding a very difficult time because they're

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<v Speaker 1>competing against more people than ever before for fewer homes

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<v Speaker 1>than ever before. Now, in part that's because we are

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<v Speaker 1>not building enough houses. We know that there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>whole series of building companies that have collapsed in the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of years. But remember the greatest Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>of all time was going to fix all of that

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<v Speaker 1>by now.

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<v Speaker 2>We have an incentive for states and territories to meet

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<v Speaker 2>that meet their own targets, to meet a national target

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<v Speaker 2>of one point two million homes between now and twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're getting on with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're getting on with it. The only problem is

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. You see today the Australian Bureau of Statistics, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>goodness for them. The best thing any government does, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to give us the data which then we form

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<v Speaker 1>our opinions. It showed about the number of brand new

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<v Speaker 1>homes that are being approved to be built. The numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are going backwards. In fact, well nine three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight new homes are about to be built approved

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<v Speaker 1>in the month of August. That is, ever so slightly

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the same as last month. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>that when it comes to things that aren't houses, like

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<v Speaker 1>say unit blocks that may well be available to rent, townhouses, villas,

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<v Speaker 1>granny flats, all of that is down by sixteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half percent year on year. Now I point this

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<v Speaker 1>out to you because there's an obvious consequence. Right In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually have a look here at this graph,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that Australia is nowhere near building the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of homes or approving the amount of homes that say,

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<v Speaker 1>under the previous government peaked at in March of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, were was twenty two thousand, eight hundred homes.

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<v Speaker 1>By January twenty three that had fallen to twelve thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and five. And as we speak tonight, the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers for August have come out as we start October

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<v Speaker 1>and it is thirteen thy nine hundred and ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this matters because firstly, we don't have enough houses

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<v Speaker 1>for all of the people who are currently here, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone all of the people that this government has brought

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<v Speaker 1>into the country. Now again, I'm terrible at MATS. I

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<v Speaker 1>did MATS in space in my year twelve, and even

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<v Speaker 1>then I ailed it. I went to one of those

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<v Speaker 1>schools where basically they knew we couldn't add up, so

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<v Speaker 1>they just taught us probability because they know we'd probably

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<v Speaker 1>end up as degenerate gamblers. But I can still work

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers out. The last two years of data that

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<v Speaker 1>we have for net migration is that nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four thousand people have come to the country However,

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<v Speaker 1>the total number of new dwellings that have been improved

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<v Speaker 1>but it houses or units, is only two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three six hundred and eighty seven, So not even

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<v Speaker 1>a third of the extra people that have come into

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<v Speaker 1>the country are being serviced by new dwellings, meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>the line for rental cues gets longer, the line for

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<v Speaker 1>a home to buy gets longer. The federal government gets

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<v Speaker 1>to pat itself on the back because we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>budget surplus, but you are competing with more people than

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<v Speaker 1>ever before to have a roof over your head, but

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to see here. We've got a plan, Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>plan isn't working now. Today, the first of October is

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<v Speaker 1>a major day when it comes to some health ideas

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. Now, as you know, vaping has largely

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<v Speaker 1>replaced the smoking of cigarettes or other tobacco products, mainly yes,

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<v Speaker 1>for young people, but also for a whole collection of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are trying to get off the stuff they

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<v Speaker 1>had made be smoking for years. And it does feel

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<v Speaker 1>like every second shop in many of our suburbs, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>the further you go out from the city on our

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<v Speaker 1>vape shops. Well, from today, vapes are no longer allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to be sold in shops because of a decision that

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<v Speaker 1>the Health Minister, Mark Butler made. His decision was that

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<v Speaker 1>the place from today that you can get your vapes

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<v Speaker 1>is not at a tobacconist, not at a vape shop,

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<v Speaker 1>not at the service station, but from your local chemist.

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<v Speaker 1>And unlike previous scenarios where generally speaking you'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor first to give you a prescription

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<v Speaker 1>and then the is filled by said chemist, you can

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<v Speaker 1>walk in off the street and try to purchase effectively

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<v Speaker 1>a tobacco replacement product that of course has things like

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<v Speaker 1>nicotine in it. Now, the absurdity of this situation is

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<v Speaker 1>that basically there's an honor system at play here. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me explain, you don't need a prescription anymore. People will

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<v Speaker 1>just wander into the chemist and they will say, I

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<v Speaker 1>need a couple of apes pith, Okay, well how much.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what they will give you is a month's worth

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<v Speaker 1>of vapes based off what you tell them is your

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<v Speaker 1>current monthly nicotine intake. So if you are a pacadet smoker,

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<v Speaker 1>they would give you the equivalent of that when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to vapes. If you're the occasional party smoker, they

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<v Speaker 1>will give you, of course much less, but if, like

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<v Speaker 1>many people in this country, it's even a little more

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<v Speaker 1>than all of that, you will end up getting a

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<v Speaker 1>huge supply of vapes. Now, it's not going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people to work this one out. But

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<v Speaker 1>my criticism of this system apart from turning chemists into

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<v Speaker 1>the place where now you can get your tobacco product

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<v Speaker 1>or the tobacco replacement product, because it's all about getting

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<v Speaker 1>people off the vapes, right. Despite the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>can walk in and say, yeah, no, I bang out

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<v Speaker 1>a cart in a week, Okay, here's all the vapes

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<v Speaker 1>you need for a month, that there are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be people who may well keep some of those vapes

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<v Speaker 1>from themselves. But I think we all know where it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to end up, the black market. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>the government is completely unwilling to say that this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the consequences but also one of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>here that will increase the sales on the black market,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the tobacco products that are currently on the

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<v Speaker 1>black market, because this government is such a genius government

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<v Speaker 1>to keep increasing the taxes on legal tobacco, meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>in many of those vapor and tobacco shops which are

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<v Speaker 1>in your local suburbs. You can get crap from China

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<v Speaker 1>Chop Chop as a way of filling your nicotine rush.

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<v Speaker 1>Should that be what you wish to do now? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>smoking is bad. Smoking will kill you, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>As somebody who smokes too many cigars, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>my future has in store for me. That's the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But chemists are now saying they don't want to stock them.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, they can't be forced by the government to

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<v Speaker 1>stock them. So we're now going to have a scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where the only place that you can legally get your

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<v Speaker 1>vape is that the chemist, but not all chemists will

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<v Speaker 1>stock them, meaning that certain chemists will see their profits

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<v Speaker 1>go through the roof from this product. And the honor

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<v Speaker 1>system means that they give you the amount that you

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<v Speaker 1>ask for, because that's what you've said, is your monthly

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<v Speaker 1>nicotine does some of the chemists that won't be selling

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<v Speaker 1>vapes are the ones that you, of course should be supporting.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go through this here. This is from the Pharmacy

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<v Speaker 1>Guild and what they had to say about the types

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<v Speaker 1>of businesses that will not be involved in this little

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to change things. Feedback from our members and the

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<v Speaker 1>industry suggests that most pharmacists do not intend on stocking

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<v Speaker 1>these products. Priceline Pharmacy, Terry White Kem Mart Blooms, the

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<v Speaker 1>Chemist Pharmacy, Triple seven and National Pharmacies, particularly focused in

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<v Speaker 1>South Australia already indicating they will not be doing this now. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's some of these places. There are other nicotine alternatives,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are waiting to see what chemist Warehouse, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest providers of prescription medication and lots of

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff in all of those aisles that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need a prescription for. What their plan is, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what they tell us when they get back to

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<v Speaker 1>us over the next twenty four hours. But can you

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<v Speaker 1>think of a dumber solution to the problem of vaping

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<v Speaker 1>than literally creating an entirely new black market, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>a market where, if they wanted to, they could continue

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<v Speaker 1>to sell these thingsanists, but tax them in the same

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<v Speaker 1>way that they tax other tobacco products as a way

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<v Speaker 1>of making up revenue. No, instead, we're going to pretend

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<v Speaker 1>that if magically it's no longer available, then nobody will

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<v Speaker 1>want to use it, because that's worked with everything else

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<v Speaker 1>that the government tries to ban right, why do that to chemists?

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to be tobacconists. Now, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>other things in and around politics that I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to get to here, which is who would end up

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<v Speaker 1>backing who should we end up with the hung parliament?

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<v Speaker 1>That most likely is going to be the case after

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<v Speaker 1>the next federal election. Now, as we know, the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister thinks that they budget surplus where they have no

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<v Speaker 1>more money for charities dealing with cost of living, no

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<v Speaker 1>more help when it comes to cost of living, that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow that's going to result in them getting a majority government.

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<v Speaker 1>But as was written today in the Australian newspaper, they

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<v Speaker 1>think that all of these numbers basically say we're off

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<v Speaker 1>the way March election. Some people say there's an very

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<v Speaker 1>small window of something in December, but most likely March

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<v Speaker 1>would be when we are headed. So we know that

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<v Speaker 1>minority government is most likely what is going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Why because the Poles have told us the Labour Party's

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<v Speaker 1>primary vote the last election was thirty two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half percent. Newspole say it's at the same mark. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Resolve says it's way lower than that. Essential says it's

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<v Speaker 1>way lower than that, Redbridge says it's about the same.

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<v Speaker 1>JWS says about the same. And Morgan, who, by the

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<v Speaker 1>way tonight has in two party preferred the coalition in front,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, fifty one to two forty nine. They

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<v Speaker 1>too show that the Labour Party vote has fallen. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's focus in on one particular pole, a JWS pole

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<v Speaker 1>which has turned up in the Financial Review, which we

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<v Speaker 1>told you before about how many seats the coalition would win,

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<v Speaker 1>how many would lose, and there was a chance of

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<v Speaker 1>this becoming not an each way albow but potentially an

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<v Speaker 1>each way Liberal Labor minority government because under their calculations

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<v Speaker 1>right now, they claim that right now it's fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight, which means that a Dutton minority government may

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<v Speaker 1>well be a potential outcome of the next election. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a little too generous, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard me say this one thousand times before, But let's

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<v Speaker 1>imagine there was a position where the Liberal Party was

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<v Speaker 1>mathematically close enough to form government, the Labor Party was

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<v Speaker 1>mathematically close to form government. Who would they pick? Well well,

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<v Speaker 1>under the Financial Review, because they actually picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and started to ring some of these people and

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<v Speaker 1>start to put some pressure on them so we would

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<v Speaker 1>start to know what would happen when the government inevitably

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<v Speaker 1>goes into minority. They ended up reaching out to five

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<v Speaker 1>members of the current cross Bench, that being Rebecca Sharki,

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<v Speaker 1>Helen Haynes, a legal spender, Bob Catter and our mate

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<v Speaker 1>die Lee. Rebecca Sharky's the only one who's given an

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<v Speaker 1>actual quote, but she says that she believes that her

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<v Speaker 1>community would expect her to have a conversation with the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party first. Why because, of course the seat of

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<v Speaker 1>Mayo is one that has been represented by, among others,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Downer and the Liberal Party for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so a potential win there for Peter Dutton. Also worth noting,

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<v Speaker 1>how two that die Lee. Now, you would say, Die

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<v Speaker 1>Lee is from a place where that it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be hardcore labor, so presumably she'd be pro labor right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>because according to the AFR Today that while the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the country swung towards labor, Fowler had swung in

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite direction. She pointed out to the local council results,

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<v Speaker 1>which also showed that Labour had lost a swath of seats.

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<v Speaker 1>She says that to me is an indication that something

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. So maybe she could end up backing in

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<v Speaker 1>a Dutton government. I would think it unlikely, but still potential.

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<v Speaker 1>So what about Bob Catter. Bob Caatter has been through

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<v Speaker 1>these negotiations plenty of times before. Of course, in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>ten he ended up backing the coalition, but he told

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<v Speaker 1>the Financial Review that he was very close to Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Abernezi and there was no guarantee that Dunton would get

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<v Speaker 1>his support. While he labeled the opposition leader the pick

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<v Speaker 1>of the bunch on both sides of politics when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to leadership, he is, however, critical of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are around him. So again questioned Mark, but you

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<v Speaker 1>would presume that whoever's got the best deal for his

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<v Speaker 1>part of Queensland, which you would have to think potentially

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<v Speaker 1>could come from Peter Dutton. Well that'd be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the independence Helen Haynes and a legal spender. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Haines represents the seat that way back when, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean way back when, was a Liberal Party seat. However,

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<v Speaker 1>has been independent so much so that she was able

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<v Speaker 1>to replace the previous independent allegal spender of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>the teal who is representing Wentworth. Haines has said that

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<v Speaker 1>she would never sign away. Now listen to this. Listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this for an absolute non answer. Right my view,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd back Labor. But still Haines, the member for Endi

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<v Speaker 1>and Victoria, says that she would never sign away her

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<v Speaker 1>independent vote on bills in a deal, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>open to negotiations about backing confidence of the House and

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<v Speaker 1>budget bills. So which one would you pick? Well, of

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<v Speaker 1>course she has to sit around and pretend, oh, both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>She would back Labor why she likes their position when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to climate change, and certainly she would be

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<v Speaker 1>no fan of Peter Duttont. But that's just me going

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<v Speaker 1>off the entire form of her political career. Meantime, Allegra Spender,

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<v Speaker 1>who has referred to herself as a small l Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>and says that she views everything through a business lens,

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<v Speaker 1>and the assumption is that this being a seat that

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<v Speaker 1>used to be for the Liberals, that she most likely

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<v Speaker 1>would end up potentially voting for the Libs. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>no comment from her, so it's as clear as mud.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me walk you through the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>cross bench as we head towards a minority government. If

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<v Speaker 1>they were all returned. What would happen now? Andrew g

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<v Speaker 1>is a former NATS The expectation is that that seat

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<v Speaker 1>would go back to the Nats. But maybe he ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being out. Taeler Teel who has frightened him in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. Russell Borben who was a person who lost

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<v Speaker 1>pre selection but may well somehow find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>get back into the parliament. Well, both of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>probably for Peter Dutton. Andrew Wilkie no chance he backed Gillard,

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<v Speaker 1>which means of course he would back albow Maniue Ryan'sy,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Zalie Steggle, Sophie Scomps and Kate Cheney. Well, all

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<v Speaker 1>of them are in former Liberal Party seats. Now if

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<v Speaker 1>they get re elected, would they all assume that there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a revolution, there's no support for the Liberal Party anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>Or if they did end up backing Labor into government,

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<v Speaker 1>would they end up in the same position as Oakshot

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<v Speaker 1>or windsor so. The Greens of course have four MPs

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<v Speaker 1>and they back Gillard in twenty ten. So back of

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<v Speaker 1>the envelope here. The Liberal Party's case, in my view

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<v Speaker 1>is that the best they could possibly do out of

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<v Speaker 1>the current cross bench of eighteen is to get nine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that means they would have to get sixty five seats

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<v Speaker 1>at the next federal election. The Labor Party's best case,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely is that they would end up with thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>of the eighteen seats, meaning they can afford to fall

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<v Speaker 1>from their current seventy eight seats in the Parliament down

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty three, meaning if there is a minority government,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely it would end up being a Labor one. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently all of that may well just not be

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<v Speaker 1>the case. A majority government may well be coming Labour's

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<v Speaker 1>way because apart from the fact that it Dunton's unelectable,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that more people now are disapproving of

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime minister of course, to sixty percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>can't name a single thing the Prime Minister has done

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<v Speaker 1>to improve their lives. But whatever again. Financial Reviews sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for the endless plugs, but they had the good story today,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an opinion persons who jesting that a rate

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<v Speaker 1>cut will save Albanisi, potentially even keeping him in a

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<v Speaker 1>majority and the National Australian Bank said today that they

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<v Speaker 1>do expect a rate cut to happen not midway through

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, but potentially early in twenty and twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe as early as February. Michelle Bullock, of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>the Reserve Bank Governor, and it's important to note that

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<v Speaker 1>she has said there will be no change this year

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<v Speaker 1>and it's most likely to be towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>next year. And remember she's also said if you're suffering

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<v Speaker 1>under interest rates right now, you should probably sell your house.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think she's planning on saving Albo anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just some of the maths. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're hardcore politics people say, well, I wanted to peek

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<v Speaker 1>behind the curtain. By the way, don't fat for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>unless they're willing to actually tell you what they would

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<v Speaker 1>do should they become in a position to choose the

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<v Speaker 1>Government of Australia. If they can't answer the question and

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to have sor of you know, the elbow

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<v Speaker 1>each way, don't vote for them. Meantime, Queensland official campaign

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<v Speaker 1>has begun Day one of the election campaign. More importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five days now until queensa gets the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>flush the Miles government and end giggles premiership. He went

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<v Speaker 1>to Government House today and who cares David Christofully. Meantime

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the campaign trail. In fact, as early

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<v Speaker 1>as yesterday he started his formal election campaign and he

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<v Speaker 1>was in Bunderberg. All the poles say he is the

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<v Speaker 1>next Premier of the Queensland fingers cross. That's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to point something out to people here

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<v Speaker 1>who may well think that a slam done. So it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. So you know, I just let everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>vote to change the government. In the queens enn Parliament,

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<v Speaker 1>you need forty seven seats to form a majority. The

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<v Speaker 1>Labour Party currently has fifty one, meaning they can lose

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<v Speaker 1>four seats yet still hold on to the majority. The

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party needs to win twelve seats to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to form the majority, so they need to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>seats all over the state, particularly in regional areas. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens when it comes to the Cross

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<v Speaker 1>Beach Kadaz. Australia Party has four. There is one independent

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<v Speaker 1>in the parliament and Green's hopefully there will be no

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<v Speaker 1>more because today the LMP made a particularly excellent decision,

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<v Speaker 1>which was they would put the Greens last and what

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<v Speaker 1>actual fact preference labor over the Greens labor, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>why would they do that. Let us turn our attention

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<v Speaker 1>now to.

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<v Speaker 3>The greater form of the media, the deeper end of

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<v Speaker 3>the swimming pool, the more beloved broadcast, that being of course,

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<v Speaker 3>the ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the ABC is of course beloved by many lefties

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<v Speaker 1>around the country. In fact, they sometimes think the Patricia

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<v Speaker 1>Cabalis is too right wing, but still they generally get

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<v Speaker 1>what they want now, as you know, many of the

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<v Speaker 1>things or the people who support the ABC blindly, who

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<v Speaker 1>think there's no problems there, who think the problems are

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<v Speaker 1>everything outside the building, the people who think they should

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<v Speaker 1>get two billion dollars a year despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we have not one, but two two taxpayer funded broadcasters

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<v Speaker 1>in the country, that and SBS, well, they of course say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to see here. There is no fault whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the ABC, and if there is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of people have kind of got liberal party connections.

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<v Speaker 1>The only problem was is that I thought we should

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a look at what it's like to work

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<v Speaker 1>for the ABC, the so called better of the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the Australian media, well, they underpaid their staff in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the number is about twelve million dollars that they have

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<v Speaker 1>underpaid their staff over seven years. Okay, well that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing, right. Well, what about a survey of their

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<v Speaker 1>own news and Current affairs people that suggested that sexual

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<v Speaker 1>harassment is quite a problem for the people who work there.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, according to the ABC reporting about the ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>which we know they love to do, a survey of

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<v Speaker 1>ABC News staff has found thirteen percent of respondents to

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<v Speaker 1>a survey experienced sexual harassment at work, and more than

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter have been bullied over the past two years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been described as pervasive. Well, okay, they've paid back

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<v Speaker 1>the money and surely they've learned their lesson then, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean David Anderson, the current boss, thinking of jumping ship

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years early. I mean, he's done his sorries, right,

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<v Speaker 1>except for what happened today when David Anderson says we

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<v Speaker 1>must do better. Why because they've got a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a racial problem. In fact, again, the ABC writing

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<v Speaker 1>about the ABC says that among the experiences that have

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<v Speaker 1>been documented in cases of racial slurs or offensive comments

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<v Speaker 1>about a person's appearance or cultural practices and being excluded

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<v Speaker 1>from workplace and social functions due to their background. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the people that are better than everyone else in

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<v Speaker 1>the media. Just sit there and watch media Watch. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why everything else is terrible. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on inside their own walls. The reviewers heard

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<v Speaker 1>of staff being mistaken for someone junior based on their

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<v Speaker 1>racial appearance because you know, everyone looks the same, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and staff are being passed up opportunities because you are

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<v Speaker 1>considered to have been hired only to meet a diversity quota. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's you know, that's clearly problem with only a

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<v Speaker 1>certain type of staff member. And thankfully there are more

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<v Speaker 1>modern examples about an ABC that's got a big and

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<v Speaker 1>bright future in front of it, including the bloke who

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<v Speaker 1>was nominated for gold Loki Tony Armstrong of course, the former.

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<v Speaker 4>Footy player and beloved. I mean everything he does, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just amazing. It's like a member of our family. He's

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<v Speaker 4>called no controversy around him. Oh yeah, apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been caught doing ads and you know how

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<v Speaker 1>ABC people aren't supposed to flog products. Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>flogging Nroma, the insurance company during the Olympic Games. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to see here. They're better than everyone else and while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm continuing to make friends in the media, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to have a little focus here on the Channel

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<v Speaker 1>one newspapers and specifically the Sydney Morning Herald. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney Morning Herald is of course one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>news institutions of Australia, have been around for an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>long period of time, and they've decided to do some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting reporting at the moment, which is to pull people

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<v Speaker 1>together to talk about the COVID lockdowns of New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honest, there's some really interesting insights into

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that frankly you and I were saying all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through. But remember what they said about us at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. One of the conclusions of their COVID panel

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<v Speaker 1>this is running in a store in a series of

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<v Speaker 1>stories this week. I think virus transmission alone should not

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<v Speaker 1>dictate public health orders in a future pandemic. Really, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that they've gone all Sky News on us. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what we were saying at the time. Border closures must

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<v Speaker 1>be informed by nationally agreed frameworks. According to the people

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<v Speaker 1>who were talking about the COVID failings. The panel, which

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<v Speaker 1>was convened by The Herald to examine how COVID lockdowns

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<v Speaker 1>were designed and enforced chiefly in New South Wales. Broadly

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<v Speaker 1>agreed that policy makers overlooked social cohesion and mental health factors. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember saying that. You remember saying that, and you

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<v Speaker 1>remember what they said about us for saying that. They

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<v Speaker 1>also argued that government should not regard the health and

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<v Speaker 1>economic outcomes as separate. They were intrinsically linked. They've literally

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they've gone back and transcribed the editorials from

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<v Speaker 1>this program and other presenters on this station that we

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<v Speaker 1>did from day one and for the years of this

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<v Speaker 1>garbage we all had to live with also the economic

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<v Speaker 1>damage from shutdowns and stay at home orders that would

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<v Speaker 1>inevitably affect people's health. Wow, I mean, surely breaking news exclusive. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>someone somewhere in the Australian media has decided to notice

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<v Speaker 1>that there were significant issues that were visible to the

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<v Speaker 1>naked eye at the time, but of course was shouted down, ignored,

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<v Speaker 1>or were put into some sort of conspiracy theorist world.

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Fuller, the former Police Commissioner of New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>is part of this series of reporting in the Citny

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Herald and he was on with my friend Chris Kenny,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been saying what I've been saying since day one.

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<v Speaker 5>So when we have these sort of global shocks, Chris,

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<v Speaker 5>it means that I think at times governments have to make,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, pretty difficult decisions, some Toukrainian laws, but that

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<v Speaker 5>is about protecting.

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<v Speaker 1>The system itself.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the greatest challenges was when does the economics

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<v Speaker 5>cross with the health outcomes of the people of New

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<v Speaker 5>South Wales. And I think that probably happened too late.

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<v Speaker 5>In hindsight, I thought about.

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<v Speaker 1>This all day. Do I or don't I say it?

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<v Speaker 1>Douay or don't I say it? Do I create more

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<v Speaker 1>enemies inside the Australian media. I'm rather friendless when it

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 1>comes to the Australian media. But that's okay, cool, I'm

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.439
<v Speaker 1>doing it for you and I've got plenty of support here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. Remember when Gladys Borogicalian was the Premier

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<v Speaker 1>of New South Wales and of course she was giving

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<v Speaker 1>the daily press conferences and you know, the ABC medicos

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Twitter types were all sort of lock it down,

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 1>look it down, look it down. Well, of course, sir

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the City Mounding Hero, which among other things, has concluded

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>today as I said to you that lockdowns have greater

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<v Speaker 1>effects than just dealing with the virus. What did they

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>write about Gladys spiogically and lockdowns? Well back in twenty

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, they wrote, for the past eight weeks the

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>news of Pult's premier, Gladys spieragically and has dismissed COVID

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen measures as such as curfews, outdoor masks, wearing and

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>effective ring of steel around Sydney, and limits on outdoor

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>exercise all better ideas that Dan was doing, but we

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing them enough. The same newspaper that is now

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<v Speaker 1>saying what the consequences are of all of these things?

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<v Speaker 1>They went on. They've been employed in other states to

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<v Speaker 1>varying degrees of success, but misspiergically and has rejected them,

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<v Speaker 1>often with contempt, promising that her governments proportionate response would

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<v Speaker 1>lead the state to freedom. She has been right to say,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all agree, the evidence in favor of curfus

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<v Speaker 1>and limits it outdoor activities is mixed at best, because

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>there's simply no strong evidence at outdoor transmission. In fact,

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>there was none according to the niss Sobel's Health Department.

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<v Speaker 1>But Miss Piagicklian has also failed to acknowledge that these

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>measures would send a clear message. So we should go

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<v Speaker 1>into lockdown, we should go into ring a steel, we

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<v Speaker 1>should have a curfew, we should have choppers flying over

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>because it sends a message. The same people who now

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<v Speaker 1>have discovered that all of this has consequences. I've got more,

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>same newspaper, gladys piagically must stop playing catch up with

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen, Premier must stop the spin about a quick

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<v Speaker 1>exit from lockdown. And then when she, of course she

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>did lockdown even harder the way they wanted it. Premier

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>shows her metal by making the tough call on lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>So I say well done to the Herald for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us in common sense land, where the evidence was clear

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<v Speaker 1>from very early on. Not the first couple of months,

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>obviously that was all up for grabs. But after a

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.959
<v Speaker 1>couple of months we all knew what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But the only instrument the blunt instrument. Because three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>cases a day, do you want to know how many

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>are around now? How many people are apparently dying with COVID?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot more than any lockdown moment during twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty twenty one or whatever people were dreaming of

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>for the past couple of years. Since so great that

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<v Speaker 1>you're writing at But I noticed in your first story

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<v Speaker 1>you don't make any mention of the media that helped

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 1>pressure the existence of the lockdowns, who wanted them to

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>go harder, who wanted them to be tougher, who wanted

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>them to hurt more people. Perhaps that's in part two

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>because today no mention of that, including their own role

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in making sure that terrible decisions were being made during

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that period of time. Dodger, no, miss you and me.

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>You and me be here every night, all right, be

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>here every night because I need you as the friend.

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't have many others outside the building. But I

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 1>don't care, all right, to a fault, I don't care. Now,

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>remember how scooters have been banned in Melbourne, those rental scooters.

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Race was on the show on Sunday night, the

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Lord Mayor saying this is one of the things that

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>people really liked. Most of the audience clapped and agreed

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't like the scooters. Okay, personally I love them,

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's the decision that's been made in Melbourne. Well,

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody decided to write an opinion piece in one of

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the newspapers the Age, saying, sure, ban scooters, but while

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you're at it, ban monster SUVs as well, among one

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>of the arguments as to why big cars should no

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>longer be allowed in and around the streets of Melbourne.

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Larger cars are also, of course, a good deal worse

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>for our emissions, using more steel and consuming more petrol,

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>bringing forward the times of tribulation, where the crops fail,

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>populations move all of course you've got a big car, okay,

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and people die of heat stroke by the thousands, all

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>because you've got an suv all right, let alone a

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>ram meaning that, of course scooters doesn't matter whatsoever. Well,

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I over a solution for this bloke. Everyone else who

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>does often mouth off about the size of cars that

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>are in our cities. Feel free to complain about what

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>China's doing. Australia is one percent of the world's problem.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Should we do our part to reduce it? Yes, of course,

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So if you'd like to make a complaint about who's

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>actually destroying the planet right now, forget having a go

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>at your local suv owner and go to in this case,

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the Chinese consulate in Melbourne. It's on two rec road.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>You could walk there, you could cycle there, you can

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>get a piggyback from another lefty, but feel free to

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.239
<v Speaker 1>go to the place that's actually causing trouble rather than

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>pretending the next door neighbour's car is the real reason

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>thousands will die. Now, as you know, there is a

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>significant consequence when it comes to climate change, which is storms,

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>not going to pretend that's not the case. And because

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>China is currently doing what it's doing, there are particular

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>examples about some big storms that are happening, like in

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the United States right now, in fact, that John hurricane

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>across multiple states. This has been terrible. I think it's

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>aout one hundred and thirty people that have died. Many

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>more will find out in the next of the while,

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.719
<v Speaker 1>but it's been bloody awful. Today Donald Trump was in

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the affected areas, and among other things, what

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to get fixed as soon as possible, like

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe as soon as like a couple of days time,

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>is people being able to have access to the internet

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>so they can start to communicate what's going on in

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>their house with the emergency officials. This was a good

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>moment for Trump today.

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody's seen anything like it, And to every family that's

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:37.239
<v Speaker 6>been displaced here in Georgia and North Carolina, which has

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 6>really been head We were going there also and they

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 6>don't have communication. They don't have anything right now that

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 6>we're trying to. I just spoke to Elon. I'm getting him.

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 6>We want to get Starlink hooked up because they have

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 6>no communication whatsoever. And Elon will always come through. I

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 6>know that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Kamala Harris, of course, needs to pretend that she

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is completely in charge because she's the vice president. But

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>remember when she's running, she's not really running as the

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>vice president because she's the candidate of change. Have look

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>at that photo. Not a lot on the pieces of

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>paper and the headphones that she's clearly listening to because

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>she's part of her phone conversation, not plugged into her phone.

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>This is her whole bunch of nonsense to make it

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>look like she's involved in the clean up efforts. As

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Trump says, correctly, you have to put the cord in

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the phone for it to work. Oh and by the way,

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know how George Bush hated black people. According to

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Kanye way back was a Kanye I think so way

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>back when one of the telethons, by the way, no

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>plan of a telethon when it's the Southern States noticed,

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>that's no, none of that right, There's no political advantage

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>in any of that. And all the stars are already,

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of course, hanging out with Kamala Harris literally while the

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>hurricane was hitting these multiple areas, while it was displacing

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.719
<v Speaker 1>thousands of people and killing at least one hundred and

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty people. Guess where Kamala Harris was. Had she canceled

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>all of her campaign appearances. No, back in Washington in

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the situation room, watching what was taking place, because apparently

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>she is involved in the federal government when she chooses

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to be. No, I'll let Meghan Kelly explain where she

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was when the hurricane was hitting.

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<v Speaker 7>Kamala Harris attended an LA fundraiser. Kamala Harris is at

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 7>an LA fundraiser with Stevie Wonder, Keegan Michael Key, Sterling Brown,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 7>Demi Levado, Jessica Alba, Lily Tomlin, Alanis Morissett, and Holly

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 7>Bailey performing menu duck, egg roll, goat cheese, honey, blueberry ball, beef,

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 7>wellington lobster roll, and crabcakes. The devastation.

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<v Speaker 1>Going, Victor. How dare she? I'm just to go.

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 8>Grew up in a middle class home, who understands what

0:32:54.080 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 8>it's like an opportunity reality when Americans were hurting and

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 8>they needed somebody to be able to respond to what

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 8>was happening. When it was happening, she was hanging out

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 8>with the A listers, raising money for herself to eventually

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 8>become a president that presumably would care if this happens

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 8>anytime other than election time. Plenty more to talk about,

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 8>No looks, no left, He's looking forward to it. Matt

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<v Speaker 8>Cunningham joins us from Darwin, James Morrow in the man Cave,

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<v Speaker 8>and then of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course Nager Ferras. Before we're done, a dodger. You and

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>me stick together, Stick together because outside of this box

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>fairly desolate career options for me. Stick with it, right,

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I've had plenty to say, So let's get these blokes,

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>said none other than James Morrow. Of course you can

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>see him on outside as the US Report read him

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in the Telegraph, rock and roll and often hosting this program.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>God loave you true, I love it. Always incapable and

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>wonderful hands. Speaking of Matt Cunningham joins us now not

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>from our Darwin Studio parents on the Fritz. I think

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>he's in his backyard. That is do it yourself TV mate,

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Well played wherever you happen to be. I'm glad you're here,

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>all right, So Matt, I'm going to start first with you.

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>We all saw what happened with Peter Dutton today, this

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>question from the ABC and of course his response. I

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's been played a thousand times, so I won't

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 1>played one thousand and one. But what's your sense of here?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you've seen politicians try to make things about the media,

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>but then equally when the media asks a question as

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>stupid as why is the Israeli flag okay? But the

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>hes Bala flag isn't, Well, you've got to expect it

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>right between the eyes metaphorically when you say something as stupid.

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<v Speaker 9>As that, right, and that's where the reporter got it. Mean,

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 9>I think Peter Dunn't was one hundred percent right to

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 9>call that out and he's done it before. I mean,

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 9>you'll remember it when he was in Alice Springs last year,

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 9>Paul and he was being asked about some of the

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 9>issues of child sex abuse and it was being basically

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 9>put to him that he was overstating the issue or

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 9>basically making things up, and he got very shirty at

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 9>the time, justifiably so about that accusation that was being

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 9>put to him. But you know, in this case, it's

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 9>just simply almost bizarre that that comparison was being made.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 9>You have one organization that is a terrorist organization, has

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 9>been recognized as such by both sides of politics for

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 9>more than twenty years, and the other is a Western democracy,

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 9>well not a Western democracy, but obviously a democracy in

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 9>the Middle East. So you know, to make that comparison,

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 9>it was way off the mark, and I think the

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 9>opposition leader was right to call it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I completely agree, and I completely agree that he

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>gave it to them. But let's do devil's advocate for

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>a second here, James. It's great for the base, it's

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>great for those of us that want to push back

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 1>against cultural this, that and the other. However, if you're

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to reach out beyond who already loves you, is

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>the ABC the one that you go for a whack at.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to do it, but I'm yeah, I am yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it is for a few reasons here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>number one, I think if you look at the ABC's ratings,

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 10>you'll note that they are more and more out of

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 10>touch with what is happening in mainstream Australia. So I

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 10>think that, you know, in terms of having a fair

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 10>whack at the ABC for trousering more than a billion

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 10>dollars of our tax money every single year pole and

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 10>then producing stuff that nobody wants to watch, and the

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<v Speaker 10>numbers show that with.

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<v Speaker 1>Them to stuff with the being underpaid, sexual harassment.

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<v Speaker 10>And the racism and the racism and everything else and

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<v Speaker 10>every other thing, you know. So yeah, no, look, I

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<v Speaker 10>think that, you know, in terms of growing the base,

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<v Speaker 10>I think an awful lot of people look at the

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<v Speaker 10>ABC and say, this is an outfit that is taking

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<v Speaker 10>money out of my pocket and that, aside from Bluey,

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<v Speaker 10>isn't giving us anything that we particularly like. Now beyond that,

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<v Speaker 10>also ABC Class School. We love our ABC Class School.

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<v Speaker 10>But that's a whole other story. But anyway, but the

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<v Speaker 10>other thing too is that there's a really key education

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<v Speaker 10>piece here too, because there is this sort of sense

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<v Speaker 10>that there's this kind of relativist contest here. Hence be

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<v Speaker 10>there the bottle of guys Israel, there the Jewish guys

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<v Speaker 10>and blah blah, blah. But people need to understand what

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<v Speaker 10>has blas all about. For forty years, they have been

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<v Speaker 10>bombing embassies, bombing Jewish cultural centers as far away as Argentina,

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 10>hijacking airplanes, kidnapping people, torturing them. These are objectively the

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 10>bad guys. And to see what we saw where we

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<v Speaker 10>had people marching with the flags of the national artposters

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<v Speaker 10>like it was Beirut, that's a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the Lebanese people don't want them, right, the

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>government doesn't want them all right. They are not some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of proxy of the Lebanese government.

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<v Speaker 10>They're a state within a state.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they are, thank you exactly all right. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thoughts with people in Australia caring about what's

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>happening there are certainly not just what's happening with Israel,

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but also in terms of their family in Lebanon, not

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, pro Hesboala or anything, just talking

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>about the many hundreds of thousands of people they're affected

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in multiple ways there. Now, of course, queens and election

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<v Speaker 1>fires off today. I mentioned before what the size of

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<v Speaker 1>the hill is for the opposition, but it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to get there. But what about Stephen mars Now,

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<v Speaker 1>youth crime a one issue. Every time I've gone anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near Queen's at in Newham often I'm in queens Man,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, But he says everything's getting better.

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<v Speaker 11>What we know is that our community Safety plan is working.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 11>Our community Safety Plan invests into programs that we know

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 11>are working.

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<v Speaker 4>And many of.

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<v Speaker 11>Those programs have been piloted here in Townsville, and we

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<v Speaker 11>are either expanding them or taking them elsewhere around the state.

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<v Speaker 11>In fact, we can now report that in the last

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<v Speaker 11>nine months we've seen eighteen percent reduction in serious repeat

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<v Speaker 11>offenders across the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Please please, please, please please. You saw this, of course

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<v Speaker 1>in the Northern Territory election, Matt when in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>yet another labor government is trying to do the Jedi

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>mind trick. This is not as bad as you think.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers are actually going down. Yet everyone's got a

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<v Speaker 1>story about their car getting ripped off.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, who do you believe me or your own eyes?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, that's the question, isn't it. And when voters

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<v Speaker 9>get to vote, you know they vote pretty loudly and

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<v Speaker 9>pretty clearly, as they did here in the Northern Territory.

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<v Speaker 9>It's going to be so interesting to watch that election,

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<v Speaker 9>because I mean most people would be predicting a carbon

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<v Speaker 9>copy of what we had happened here in the Northern Territory,

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<v Speaker 9>particularly in places like Townsville where issues are so similar,

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<v Speaker 9>particularly the issue of youth crime. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 9>what here in Darwin and in other parts of the

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 9>Northern Territory, in fact, most of the Northern Territory baseball

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 9>bats were well and truly out. The government here tried

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<v Speaker 9>to do the same thing that Steven Miles is trying

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<v Speaker 9>to do now. It is trying to sort of turn

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<v Speaker 9>the ship around. You know, the previous leader has gone,

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 9>Palichet's gone. I'm a different guy. I've got a different approach,

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm trying to tell you that what we're doing

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<v Speaker 9>is working well. I reckon it's probably going to be

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 9>too little and too late for Stephen Miles, because I

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<v Speaker 9>think the voters in Queensland probably made up their mind

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<v Speaker 9>a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>From your mouth, from your lips to their pencils that

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>they're going to get into the ballot with. But also, James,

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<v Speaker 1>another version of this is the economy. Right the federal

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>government's trying to turn around and say oh, we'll got

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<v Speaker 1>a budget surplus and this is good, and this is good.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot convince people that their circumstances are not what

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<v Speaker 1>they leave. And it's the same with youth crime. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same with the economy. And we'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in about a months time.

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<v Speaker 10>Well yeah, And I mean, this is this thing the

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<v Speaker 10>politicians always do. They do a terrible, terrible job throughout

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 10>their term of government. Everything goes to custard of the

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 10>perverbial or whatever, and then you know, at the very

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.879
<v Speaker 10>they say, hey, look, look, look we're fixing things, we're

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 10>approving things. But it's like, well, why didn't you fix

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<v Speaker 10>the youth crime thing for all the years that you've

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 10>been an off as previously. Now, the one interesting thing

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<v Speaker 10>about this, there's gonna be a wrinkle to the selection

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<v Speaker 10>because I think there is no I told somebody in

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<v Speaker 10>Brisbane a while ago, there's still a lot of support

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<v Speaker 10>for Smiles around that kind of Brisbane area. Southeast in

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 10>Southeast Queensland is very lefty and it's just going to break.

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 10>It's going to be about breaking enough seats north of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, can I say too without getting too boring

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone, but there are four case seats in and

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<v Speaker 1>around Townsville. They should have had a massive sweep out

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>four years ago, right because crime was again part of

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the issue there. Labor was able to hold onto everything

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>up there. Now I don't think that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the case this time. We certainly know that they had

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.399
<v Speaker 1>a change of mayor, but then there's controversy about that men,

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>so Labor thinks there's some way of holding on there.

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>But there's also plenty of reporting that regional MPs for

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party are literally giving up and don't even

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>really trying in all of them. So we'll all see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. All right, lads, I do appreciate it. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. See you James on the weekend of

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>course with Outsiders and the US Report Friday night, as

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<v Speaker 1>well having a look at the vice presidential debate, which

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see here tomorrow one Skuy News. Thank you also,

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Matt enjoy the night there in Darwin. It's amazing. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to nosokno lefties Niger Farras straight after

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 1>the break here on Paul Murray Live. Well, we're going

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about a lot of things that are happening

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>in the UK. Okay, we're not going to do American

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>politics that much. There's a lot of weird stuff in

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the UK happening right now, so stick about. Niger Farras

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>is the leader of the UK Reform Party. He joins

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>us now from beautiful England where there's much to discuss

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 1>because there's some weird stuff going on with the new

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister, Nigel Love it to say, you mate, thank

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you all right, So what's going on here where there's

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of freebies and gifts and things that are

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>starting to bring the air of stink around a brand

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>new government and everyone knows the newcast mill never lasts

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>as long as everyone wanted.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, that's right, and I mean, you know, in opposition,

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 12>keirst Armer was very much the art holier than thou.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 12>You know, we get into government, it's all going to

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 12>be different. The culture of entitlement will be gone. And

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 12>we discover that not only has he been staying in

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:48.359
<v Speaker 12>a luxury you know, eighteen million Quidsworth penthouse, but when

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 12>he declares the gift from Lord Ali, he massively underestimates

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 12>the value of it. And then by a bit we

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 12>learn that not only does he get a box at

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 12>Arsenal Football Club, which by the way, I don't grudge

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 12>him that, I really don't, but he's had a whole

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 12>load of suits and even glasses paid for by a donor.

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 12>Now this does not look like, you know, the puritanical

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 12>care starm where it looks like someone on the take.

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 12>And the one thing the British public can't stand is hypocrisy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, not to mention again the sant deminy that he

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>displayed in concert with the media about everything to do

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>with Boris Johnson. Yet of course you know, one of

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why it went the way that it went,

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that their numbers didn't really go up

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that high, it was about the collapse of the Conservatives

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>as we know, is that there was an expectation of

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>something else and if there's more of the same, that's

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>good for people who would like to change the system,

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like your good self.

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<v Speaker 12>What it is, and I mean, could you believe it?

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 12>I don't know what you think of these, but I

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 12>thought them myself. It's amazing too.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe too that's QUI.

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<v Speaker 12>I look, you know, honestly, we've got a labor party

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<v Speaker 12>and you know we're only you know, only a couple

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 12>of months in whose popularity and support is collapsing already.

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 12>We've got a Conservative Party up at their conference in

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 12>Birmingham and the Midlands who are constantly at war with

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 12>each other and split and yeah, reform are now the challengers.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 12>You know, we're lying very firmly in third place. Let's

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 12>see what happens. But I wouldn't be surprised if you

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 12>didn't see very big change.

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, as we see right now, I think

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it's what four people that are going to be going

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<v Speaker 1>for Conservative leadership. Now. Of course they're not just going

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>to be trying to look this way on the government.

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>They're going to be looking this way at what you've

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>been able to build with literally millions of people, and

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>depending on what the voting system is in five years time,

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be powering this. So give us an

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>idea about the fundamental splits inside the Conservative Party that

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>are going to mean it's always going to be fighting

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>with itself.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, absolutely, because we have the old old style, sort

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 12>of rather stuffy, upper middle class type of Conservative who frankly,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 12>you know, doesn't believe in anything very much other than

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 12>the right to govern. Then you've got a more radical

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.760
<v Speaker 12>wing which believes that we shouldn't have any foreign courts

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 12>telling us what we can do, that we can control

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 12>our borders, that we shouldn't let the big corporate companies

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 12>take over and dominate our lives completely.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>To a detriment of all this.

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 12>Men and women running their own businesses, and they're are

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 12>two wings of the party. But there's no doubt that

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 12>in Westminster it's the old school Conservatives that hold the

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 12>balance of power. And what they're not seeing is what's

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 12>happened to the Conservative movement and Australia with Donald Trump.

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 12>What they're not seeing is what happened in Austria at

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 12>the weekend where a party to the right of the

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 12>old Conservatives won the elections. Modern day conservatism means you

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 12>have to get blue collar and working class votes. It's

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 12>something actually, but John Howard in Australia was really a

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 12>pioneer of you know, over two decades ago. So I'm

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 12>not sure that this current Conservative party is even capable

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 12>of sorting itself out. And everyone says, to be more, Nigel,

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 12>surely you're going to do a deal with them. I'm

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.879
<v Speaker 12>not doing a deal with them. I don't trust them.

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 12>My job. My job is to replace them. Now, historians

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 12>will say you'll never be able to do it. Do

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 12>you know what historians told me, Paul, we'd never leave

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 12>the European Union. I kept going and we did well.

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.840
<v Speaker 1>This is but also any political movement that has clarity

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of purpose or right from the left, from the right,

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>from the set, whatever right, they will end up getting

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>there in the end because because everyone signs up to

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the same mission with the same purpose. But instead what

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>has previously existed is is that you've got you know,

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>certainly these sort of two teams that take turns taking power,

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>who really are focused on the game of power and

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>their backbench MP's end up being sort of political cannon

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>fodder having to explain back to the rest of the

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>country the decisions that aren't really about them. Again, as

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>you say, exactly what's happening with Trump. And you'd love

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.439
<v Speaker 1>to see a vote in the Parliament as well about

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>whether or not the UK should keep funding its peed

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of the World Health Organization.

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<v Speaker 12>Well usually be having this debate in Australia as well.

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 12>The World Health Organization had a summit a few months

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 12>ago trying to get more power for themselves, didn't really

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 12>achieve it, so they've used the United Nations General Assembly

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<v Speaker 12>to do it. And basically, you know, we're giving this

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<v Speaker 12>bloke who runs the World Health Organization, who is there

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<v Speaker 12>by the way, only because of Chinese backing, we're effectively

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<v Speaker 12>giving him the power to tell us when the next

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<v Speaker 12>pandemic is and whether we should lock down. Now, these

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<v Speaker 12>should be countries decisions or state decisions, not something made

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<v Speaker 12>by a global organization that now seeks to expand its

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<v Speaker 12>base massively increase its budget. It's yet another typical example

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<v Speaker 12>of creeping globalism, where we the voters through our governments,

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<v Speaker 12>give power away to unelected bodies on the world stage.

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<v Speaker 12>There needs to be a much bigger debate on this

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<v Speaker 12>and frankly, the way the wh Show covered up the

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<v Speaker 12>Wuhatton lablik in the beginning was a complete and us

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<v Speaker 12>a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 1>One percent, one hundred percent. Thank you, Nigel, love you

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<v Speaker 1>to see you mate, all the best. Thank you Niger

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<v Speaker 1>Fris there for us in the UK now tomorrow will

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<v Speaker 1>have plenty to look back at. The vice presidential debate

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<v Speaker 1>now that's going to be taking place Eastern time at

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<v Speaker 1>eleven o'clock here in Australia. Obviously, Tim Walls is the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota governor. He's the one representing the Democrats. Obviously. JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance is the Ohio Senator representing the Republicans. Now, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to say, the expectations game is very low about

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<v Speaker 1>whether this matters at all, but the organization that's toasting it,

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<v Speaker 1>unsurprisingly has had more positive coverage about Waltz and negative

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<v Speaker 1>coverage about Vance. Does this surprise anyone? Cinema The King