1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Do we do once a month checking in with communities. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: They say, there's so many community centers around Adelaide, around 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: the state. Kerry Ackerman's is CEO, and she joins me. Now, Kerry, 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: good morning. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Good morning, Matthew. 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Look at this beautiful spring. It's not magnificent. 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: I've got some good stories for you today talking about 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: handling loneliness, what one of our centers is doing. But 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: first I thought we talked to Sofia Katari from the 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: Junction Community Center, a very busy center down west. They've 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: got a number of events coming up. 12 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, she's on the line. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: Hello, Safair, good morning. How are you. 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good, thank you. So what's coming up there 15 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: where you are? 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: Oh, we've got a lot. Just when you said about 17 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: the spring weather, My goodness, everything is just going to happen. 18 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: We're starting off with some drumming circles, which we do 19 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: every week for everybody to join in. We've got we're 20 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: going to be delivering our anti racism campaign, which is 21 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: called racism. It's not just black and white. We have 22 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 3: our AGM coming up at the end of October. We're 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: looking for a new treasure as well, so if anybody 24 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: wants to step in, please let us know. Well. Also 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: got the CCSA conference or the Community Center their Say 26 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: conference coming up. We've got a bus ship up to 27 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: the Kurrong so we'll learn a bit more about the 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: narra Jerry community up there and also go to Camp 29 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: Kurrong and the one Mile camps up that way when 30 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: we meet with elders in that area. We've also got 31 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: the ATSIA Awards night and the Center has been nominated 32 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: for award, as have two of our volunteers, so that's 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: very exciting. We've been nominated on two occasions before. We're 34 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: just hoping we will finalist on those. On those occasions, 35 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: I hope and we winness, so I'm a big believe 36 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: in third time, I'm lucky. Then we have our thank you. 37 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Then we have our longer week movie Nights on the 38 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: fifteenth of November as well. It's a nice family night 39 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: with a bit of a barbecue and it's open to 40 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: the whole community, as is everything that we do. We 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: have a closed line project coming up on the twenty 42 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: fifth of November, and that's to raise awareness around domestic violence. 43 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: And what are you actually doing with that, Saphia, What 44 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: is the Closed Line Project. 45 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: The Closeline Project, isn't it a concept that came from America. 46 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: So basically you write either messages of support or feelings 47 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: on a T shirt and it's about airing the dirty laundry, 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: so things that would normally have been kept secret. So 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: these T shirts and then hung on your front sensor, 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: on your clothesline for other people to see and generate 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: conversations around domestic violence, how we can help or pass 52 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: that information of support or numbers, crisis numbers, things like that, 53 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: so it's very effective. It's also a good therapeutic exercise 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: and we get all the community and gold to be 55 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: part of it. We also have a lot of people 56 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: who like to take the T shirts with them and 57 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: just wear it be a bit of an effi sets 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: for the campaign, so that's fine too, and others to 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: just pick our T shirts off the off the fence 60 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: and that's fine. Through So that's that, and then we 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: go on to do our Christmas pagent. We're going to 62 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: be part of the port Alaier that's for Adelaide and 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: fill Christmas pageant. And the center is known for its 64 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: culture diversity, so our float is called Kaleidoscope because we 65 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: figured that whichever way you turn you see different colors 66 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: and glitz and glamours called the k Flat and then 67 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 3: following that we are part of the Junction Community Center 68 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: is part of the Western Collaboration Against Family and Domestic 69 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Abuse which is the Academic or CAFTA, and we're going 70 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: to be doing a community forum on December and that 71 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: will be on family domestic abuse in the original community 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: and that's open to the service providers across the West 73 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: but also community members just to learn a bit of information. 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: And we'll have some really good sea there. From our 75 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: watch from Kwy and from London Memna. 76 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: So at Ottaway, I imagine Sofia the community through there 77 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: would be pretty tight knit. There'd be an older community, 78 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: a well established community as well. In terms of residents 79 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: through there, do you get many of them dropping in? 80 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: Yes, well it's quite the worse because we get a 81 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: lot of people that were migrants that settled and we're 82 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: living in the Penican hostels from the forces and now 83 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: third generation. I hear there's a very big original community 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: in the area, but there's also many new rivals and 85 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: refugee in the area as well. That's settle there. 86 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you run programs that can help them. 87 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure, absolutely programs and services for everybody. So yeah, 88 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 3: we'll work to identify the needs and do the best 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: we can to meet those needs. 90 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: Ye, fantastic. So how many different programs do you offer 91 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: across you know, the week, the month. 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: Across a week there's probably about forty different class activities 93 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: running that are just the average regular things. This is 94 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: aside from the list of just rattled off, and there's 95 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: still more. We've got a masquerade party coming up as 96 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: a bit of an end of year thing. So yeah, 97 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: there's lots of things to do. And with this beautiful 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: spring weather, how can you not be doing things? And 99 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: a lot of what we'll do will be outside or 100 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: be day trips and things like that. So you know, 101 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: we tap into all the different cohorts and community and 102 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 3: trying to please everybody and unite everybody, bring everybody together 103 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: to learn and understand a bit more about each other. 104 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: Wonderful. It is a sense of community, isn't that it? Really? 105 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: And even listening to you say all that, you just 106 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: get that feeling, that that kind of warm fuzzy feeling 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: of people coming together and taking part in different activities. 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: It is nice because there's no expectations, so you know, 109 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: people can just join in with anything. There's no you know, 110 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: we don't charge much or anything for something and people 111 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: just are welcome and it's non judgmental, so it's just 112 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: come in enjoy. If your local enjoy it. 113 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Good on you, Sophia, good luck with it all in 114 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: the lead up to Christmas. Thank you, thank you for 115 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: your time, Sofia Katari. The Junction Community Center may tear 116 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: a side away, so just one of how many are 117 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: there community centers? 118 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: Hire thirteen across South Australia. I thought it'd be great 119 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: to bring someone to actually talk to you, to hear 120 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: that enthusiasm and what they do and how they fit 121 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: in and what I wanted to do. Matthew was used 122 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: as a precursor to talk about loneliness because it's brought 123 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: up all the time, but we never hear the positive stories. 124 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: So one in four people are lonely. It's been identified 125 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: in Australia. Tasmania and Northern Territory are the highest on 126 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: the list, followed by Victoria in South Australia. So it 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: is a real issue. But what's being done now? The 128 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: Heart Community Center up up in there Hills. They have 129 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: done quite a lot. They've piloted a loneliness project for women, 130 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: but within that they also draw in men. And there 131 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: was a story I wanted to share about Brad. Now, look, 132 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: this may be triggering for people, So if it is, 133 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: then please be aware that you can call organizations like 134 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: Lifeline on one three double one one four, and there's 135 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: a series of other helplines that you can call. But 136 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: Brad and his dog were living in his car, and 137 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: the reason they ended up in his car is because 138 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: Brad had a work injury and he couldn't afford his 139 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: house anymore and had to give it up and live 140 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: in his car with his dog. So a lot of 141 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: the reasons why people do experience loneliness as financial, cost 142 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: of living, mental health relationship issues, ill health, culture, and 143 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: linguistic diversity. So that's quite a range. And so for Brad, 144 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: it was lack of money, lack of purpose, lack of 145 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: a job through this injury. So he ended up connecting, 146 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: fortunately with the Hut Community Center. And I'm just going 147 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: to read his words because it's better. In his words, 148 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: he said, I just sat in my car day in 149 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: day out by myself. I was pretty down and out. 150 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: I had nowhere to turn. I felt pretty suicidal. He 151 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: described loneliness as being by yourself with nobody to talk 152 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: to and speaking through tears. He said he developed connections 153 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: and support after attending the Hut Community Center at Allgate 154 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: in the Adelaide Hills. Brad lived in his car but 155 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: has since found a home. He met others through the 156 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: center and began volunteering in their repair cafe. 157 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: It was at the. 158 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: Community center that a pilot loneliness project for women was underway, 159 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: and there are now plans to expand that initiative to 160 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: help men like Brad. And he was so entrenched in 161 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: living in his car that with his dog even now 162 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: in he's founder house, which is great, he'll say to 163 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: his dog it's bedtime and the dog goes to the car. 164 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: So for him, that was a big part of his 165 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: life and he'll not have changed if he hadn't connected 166 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: with his community center. So this pilot that the Hut 167 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: Center was doing at Allgate started with women, they're now 168 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: expanding out to men. And the idea is that's in 169 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: part a ship with the Finders UNI is to identify 170 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: where does loadliness come from? But most importantly what can 171 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: we do. So it's another example of a young woman, Victoria, 172 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: who had ADHD and she just couldn't make any friends. 173 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: She felt really isolated, really lonely. She became a part 174 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: of the pilot project to identify positive things that could 175 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: be done and out of the pilot some of the 176 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: initiatives they looked at was a cafe model where participants 177 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: met and were connected by a facilitator, and that facilitator 178 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: and the safe space of a community center. And often 179 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: it feels like going to someone's kitchen is what makes 180 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: the difference. It's not going to what looks like a 181 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: medical office or a doctor's office, so it's a very 182 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: different feel. And so Victoria was a group of women 183 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: who sat down and looked at in a forum, how 184 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: can we actually change loneliness? So the sort of thing 185 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: as they came up with a self development course, a podcast, 186 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: board games, soccer and volunteering to spark connection in the community. 187 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: So she now says the community center is the place 188 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: that really changed her life. It became that connection point. 189 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 2: And look, there's one hundred and thirteen across South Australia, 190 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,119 Speaker 2: so they're out there. If you come to our website 191 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: ww dot community Center's say dot asn dot AU. We 192 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: actually have a map of where they all are. You 193 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: click on the map find the one that's closest. There's 194 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: also an events page so you can register events that 195 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: are happening. You've just listened to Sophia list of what 196 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: a dozen events easily that's one community center. They're all 197 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: doing things which would be a bus ride or a 198 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: short walk from where you live. So i'd just encourage 199 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: people to find out where the community center is. 200 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Okay, good advice. Now there's a conference coming up. Sophia 201 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: mentioned this as well, and five Double A sponsoring. 202 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: They certainly are, and we're thrilled with that because I 203 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: know how important community is to five Double A. So 204 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: it's on six of November at the Wine Center. It 205 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: is open to anybody, so if you want to connect 206 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: with community, or you're a business who sells into services, 207 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: you will find many representatives there to build that connection. 208 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: We're having a range of speakers and one particular panel 209 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: that I want to talk about as social prescribing. Now, 210 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: social prescribing is where you go to a doctor and 211 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: instead of being sent to an ophthalmologist or might be 212 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: for dental or for nutrition. You go to somebody who 213 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: sits down and works out how to help you with 214 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: the social side of your life and they come up 215 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: with a tailor plan and then they go with you 216 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: to the doctor. Now this is well entrenched overseas in England, 217 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: they're in every doctor's surgery. So in Australia we don't 218 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: have this at all. So it's a panel to look 219 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: at how can we make this happen because if you 220 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: speak to most people who are lonely, their doctor will 221 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: say you need to get out and engage. Without how 222 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: I can't get out or I would have done it. 223 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: What you need is someone to pick you up and 224 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: take you and go with you the first few times, 225 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: which you could go to your community center. So that's 226 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: going to be a big debate and really interesting of 227 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: how do we get our government to look at funding 228 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: something like that so it becomes the normal. 229 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's very interesting. Before you go, you were 230 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: telling me, well, the news was on the headlines with 231 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: care in regards to the story yesterday about baby boomers 232 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: renting out a room, and there is a program in Victoria's. 233 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: There is, and it's been starting to be piloted here 234 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: so it's because I've heard a lot of the fear 235 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: of people saying, wouldn't do it with my house or 236 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't do with my parent. But for some people it 237 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: does work. You think of people in a big four 238 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: bedroom home. Older person now the fastest growing rate of 239 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: homelessness as women over fifty five. They can cook, they 240 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: can clean, they've experienced life. So if you have older 241 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: parents and children, you're in the Sandwich generation. You're worried 242 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: about your parent. If you had an older woman living 243 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: with your older parents, knowing that they were somebody was 244 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: around twenty four seven, and it can work really well. 245 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: The difference with this program is an independent, not for 246 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: profit body vets the person. There's an agreement. Each party 247 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: has someone to go to and they exchange some of 248 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: the rent for chores, not all of it. 249 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: So say the. 250 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: Rent was normally two hundred dollars to rent a room, 251 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: they pay fifty dollars one hundred dollars, so they must 252 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: pay some money. They'll get sent a link. But then 253 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: in exchange, they garden, they cook, they do shopping, they 254 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: take the person on errands, so it keeps the person 255 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: in the home. Now we know the government don't want 256 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: their age. They already have a problem with age care. 257 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: No beds keeps the older person in the home, stops 258 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: the worry for the younger family, gives a room to 259 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: the homeless person, and it's safe because it's all vetted. 260 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: It's like going through a with a state organization. Works 261 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: well in Victoria now it must be. They must be 262 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: up to five years into it. 263 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: Right, okay, And lots of people taking it up. 264 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: Obviously they are because you look at utility bills. You've 265 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: got to turn the lights on anyway. Any bit of 266 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: money that you get if you were to pay for 267 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: a care. A care is a minimum fifty dollars an hour. 268 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: But potentially you're upping your electricity bill by twenty five percent, 269 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: aren't you? 270 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 2: You are, But in general, for most you're turning the 271 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: lights on, you're cooking, you've got the airclon. Anyway. It's 272 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: not a huge amount, just saying it's working in Victoria, 273 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 2: and I think it's something to give a go and 274 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: it's choice. People don't have to, but it could be 275 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: benefiting two sides of society and resolving a government problem. 276 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: There we go, interesting, Kerry, appreciate your time this morning. 277 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: Thank you Erry Ackerman, CEO of the communities. They say 278 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: you can catch you here on five double A Sunday 279 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: afternoons as well, right over the summer period.