WEBVTT - THE ‘FAT AND FABULOUS’ COMEDIAN FT. ALRIGHT, HEY!

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<v Speaker 1>I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming.

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<v Speaker 2>She how do I put this?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't a fan of my kissing style.

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<v Speaker 1>With boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>a trash bin. He's non recyclable, catching him.

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<v Speaker 3>Mut I loved being love. I love love.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are

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<v Speaker 1>super excited to welcome to the studio Matt hay Or,

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<v Speaker 1>as he is better known Alright.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey. Matt is a podcaster, comedian, entertainer, and self confess

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<v Speaker 3>glamors on.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait to ask him about his tall, his podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>how he comes up with his content for TikTok and Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>and what he has planned for the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick around to hear some of these hilarious stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all

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<v Speaker 1>things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,

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<v Speaker 3>intimate details, advice, much more.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Matt, Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I met you, actually was it last year? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember. The yous just kind of like muddled together

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment we did the Master Chef event together

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<v Speaker 1>and I met you there and I thought you were

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<v Speaker 1>so funny. I was like, this guy is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you are so right about everything, just

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<v Speaker 4>mushing together. I tried to find a photo from that day,

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<v Speaker 4>from that shot that we did, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 4>I was scrolling on my camera role and years to

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<v Speaker 4>try and figure out when that was. Yeah, time is

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<v Speaker 4>just a blur these days. There's so much going on.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was so fun and yeah, I loved meeting

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<v Speaker 4>you too. It was it was. It was a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I have to ask you, Matt. I went on

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram to do some research on you, obviously because you're

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<v Speaker 3>coming onto the podcast, but I can find you. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you blocked me?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I mean maybe I've look a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>straight men, so it's very very Usually after I sleep

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<v Speaker 4>with them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very Is that what happened? I don't literally, because

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<v Speaker 3>what happened? Anna sent me some sent me.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent that some funny clips of you, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see them.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, yeah, So I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got your right here? Is that you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's they go.

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<v Speaker 3>We genuinely like, look, that's yeah. But then look at

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<v Speaker 3>mine it says not available. Your stuff's not available.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's not good. I don't know why. Maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like shadow band at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>No, like, yeah, everyone else around you, my burner account

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<v Speaker 3>could find you, but that actual account.

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<v Speaker 1>That's input on the blocklist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we before together on here, I was like, Anna,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I shouldn't. Maybe I should and being on this one,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you take this one. I think he's got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not welcome here.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's actually that is actually a mystery. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>conspiracy theory because no, definitely haven't blocked you. So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what's happened there. But maybe if maybe if

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<v Speaker 4>I follow you, it all all work.

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<v Speaker 1>DMS and see what happens that wants to be friends,

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<v Speaker 1>I will do.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you I followed you? Now check what happened. See

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<v Speaker 4>if it comes up nothing, Well, maybe you've blocked me?

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<v Speaker 3>No, like did I? I was like, why would I

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<v Speaker 3>block him? I was like, And then I went through

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<v Speaker 3>my block list and you weren't there. I was. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what the fuck is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a Mysteryna and I you might have blocked me

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<v Speaker 4>because NNA and I hit it off on that day

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<v Speaker 4>at Master Chef. We had such a good time together

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<v Speaker 4>and you were just so down to earth and so

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<v Speaker 4>fabulous and so funny and out of everyone there, like

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<v Speaker 4>we probably like connected the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was like, yeah, she's a cool chick.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Matt, you probably got jealous and saw me on

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<v Speaker 4>the stories and blocked me.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to take the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the only man in Anna's life.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's fine. That's an confusing one, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you, because your outfits are just

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<v Speaker 1>so fabulous, who is your style icon for me?

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<v Speaker 4>It because it's probably like I take a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>inspiration and always have throughout my life from.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically Lady Gaga.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like she very much changed the game in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of fashion in the music industry. We all know

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<v Speaker 4>like before her, everyone was wearing jeans on a red

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<v Speaker 4>carpet and then Lady Gaga comes out in an egg

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<v Speaker 4>and everyone's like, we need to top this. And so

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<v Speaker 4>Lady Gaga when I was younger, was definitely my style icon.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like these days, I don't really have to

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<v Speaker 2>much of a style icon.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I've found my own style in a way,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know exactly like what looks flattering on my

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<v Speaker 4>body and exactly what works. And that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 4>I run with. And I get my outfits for my

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<v Speaker 4>shows and things and big, big things like that master

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<v Speaker 4>Chef's shoot, that dress that I wore with all the

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<v Speaker 4>sunglasses on it. I get all of those custom made

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<v Speaker 4>because one as a fat and fabulous person. As someone

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<v Speaker 4>who is fat, like, it's harder for me to shop obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>because not one size doesn't fit all, and so getting

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<v Speaker 4>something custom made, just like you know, getting it measured

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<v Speaker 4>to my proportions and things like that and making it

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<v Speaker 4>fit like a glove is something that I started doing

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<v Speaker 4>last year and it's absolutely changed everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like I've found my own style in

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<v Speaker 2>that totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon that you're a lot of people's style icons.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to say that, yeah, yeah, probably yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of your show, you are on tour at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You do stand up comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I don't know whether I do stand up comedy,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do a comedy show. Look, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I yeah, I'm on tour right now. I'm in Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 4>Adelaide Fringe. Oh my goodness, Sol, I'm so tired it's

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<v Speaker 4>only a half an hour time difference from Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel jet lagged. Jet lagged.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you did get the timing wrong for this. You

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<v Speaker 3>might mention that you were coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's hard later.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's only just hit.

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<v Speaker 4>We were meant to start recording at eleven o'clock it's

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<v Speaker 4>only just hit eleven o'clock now.

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<v Speaker 2>I only woke up a tenth.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're not late.

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<v Speaker 2>No, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually was early as far as early, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't call them stand up comedy shows because they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>They're very much tailored to my following. Obviously, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people who are coming to the shows I've been

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<v Speaker 4>I've been doing social media and stuff for about eight

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<v Speaker 4>years now, and a lot of the people who are

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<v Speaker 4>coming to my shows and people who are follow me

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<v Speaker 4>for a very long time, they kind of know my

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<v Speaker 4>story and they know the ins and outs, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it's very much tailored to them. And there's personal jokes

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<v Speaker 4>about my journey, like talking about fashion and fashion icons

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<v Speaker 4>as a whole section in the show about how when

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<v Speaker 4>I was first starting out, I was kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>too poor to buy any outfits for a red carpet

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<v Speaker 4>and I wasn't famous enough that people wanted to dress me,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I had to make my own outfits, like

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<v Speaker 4>go down to Kma and Spotlight and Bummings and buy

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<v Speaker 4>all these things and then put them all on an

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<v Speaker 4>outfit and walk the red carpet. Look at a million bucks,

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<v Speaker 4>but like for twenty two dollars fifty, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I tell a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of stories like that and stories from throughout my life,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's very much tailored to my audience. Look, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a funny show. Everybody laughs. But is it stand up comedy?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I'm having a bloody good time

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<v Speaker 4>doing it whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any any advice to anyone that's wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to get into the stand up it's not stand by

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<v Speaker 3>the stay entertainment. Yeah, the stand up world. Who wants

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<v Speaker 3>to get up on stage and tell jokes to people

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<v Speaker 3>make them laugh, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I have some advice.

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<v Speaker 4>But also the way that I kind of fell into

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<v Speaker 4>it was kind of weird and kind of random, because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, for most people, if you want to start

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<v Speaker 4>in comedy, you find your local comedy club, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>plenty of them in major cities. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 4>like smaller regional places, but in major cities there's all

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<v Speaker 4>these hidden like comedy bars and just on a Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>they just have like open mic nights. And look, when

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<v Speaker 4>I started, I did a lot of research and like

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<v Speaker 4>just just sat there and pretty much watched people over

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<v Speaker 4>and over and over it and kind of picked up

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<v Speaker 4>on different things, because I mean, stand up comedy kind

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<v Speaker 4>of is like an art form in that you have

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<v Speaker 4>to talk a certain way or put a certain things in,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to know when to pause to let

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<v Speaker 4>the audience know it's okay to laugh, and it's all

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<v Speaker 4>very structured. It's it's kind of funny how it all works.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I watched a lot of Joan Rivers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I love Joan Rivers, and she definitely isn't my style

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<v Speaker 4>of comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>She was much worse.

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<v Speaker 4>She got away with a lot of things that I

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<v Speaker 4>could never say, but she was really hilarious. And I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of watched how because I feel like for her,

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<v Speaker 4>she's one of the greatest comics of all time. And

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<v Speaker 4>the way that an audience just watched Joan Rivers and

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<v Speaker 4>was so enthralled by her and no matter what she said,

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<v Speaker 4>they were laughing at. That's really kind of like what

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<v Speaker 4>I what I want from That's what everybody wants from

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<v Speaker 4>an audience if you want to do comedy. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're starting out, go to those small little comedy

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<v Speaker 4>bars and things like that. They do open mark nights

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<v Speaker 4>where anyone can get on stage and have a go

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<v Speaker 4>and see how it goes. For me, I have to

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<v Speaker 4>say though, I never did that. I just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>blew up on social media and then I was approached

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<v Speaker 4>by my tour manager and he was like, hey, you

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<v Speaker 4>should do live shows, ding ding ding money, money money,

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, yeah, right, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it before your first one. Then obviously if

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<v Speaker 3>you hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>My god and I still get nerve.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they reckon. Once you stop getting nervous, it means

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<v Speaker 3>you don't care, so it's probably a good time. Yeah nervous, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I the very first time, here we go. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>take you through it. The first night that I did,

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<v Speaker 4>I did a comedy show. It was at Sydney Comedy

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<v Speaker 4>Festival and this was last year and I thought, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, this is my first time doing a show, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really know how it works.

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<v Speaker 4>So I did a full glam moment like bold blue

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<v Speaker 4>and black smoky eye.

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<v Speaker 2>I had like three or four vodka Red.

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<v Speaker 4>Bulls beforehand to pop myself up, and then when I

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<v Speaker 4>got on stage, I was so sweaty from the alcohol

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<v Speaker 4>and the hot lights that my makeup started melting down

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<v Speaker 4>my face and I was just crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Black and blue mascara all down my neck.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember getting on stage looking in the mirror and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like gone down my neck into my dress.

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<v Speaker 2>And I learnt very quickly no alcohol before my show.

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<v Speaker 4>So I now do not have a drop of alcohol

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<v Speaker 4>before my shows because that obviously makes you a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit warmer.

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<v Speaker 2>And also my.

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<v Speaker 4>Makeup that I now do is very very basic because

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to have any mishaps with the sweat

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<v Speaker 4>and things like that. And I've learned along the way.

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<v Speaker 4>I now have a towel on stage so that I

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<v Speaker 4>can dab my forehead if I am getting sweaty. I

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<v Speaker 4>have like a water I have, you know, show notes

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<v Speaker 4>and things like that. So because I am still learning,

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<v Speaker 4>like I think in Adelaide, this is only my like five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

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<v Speaker 4>Like last night was only my tenth show ever. Tomorrow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>tonight it will be my eleventh. So it's only my

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<v Speaker 4>eleventh time on stage doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so confident. I mean, we were watching the pinned

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<v Speaker 1>video on your socials, the famous video of you pretending

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<v Speaker 1>to be in jail with the soap bar I'm bending down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so funny, Like I reckon, I've watched it

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty times. It's so hilarious. I was like, look

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<v Speaker 1>at this, it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>I obviously haven't seen it for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like so out of like that joke and how

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<v Speaker 4>well that did on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm really glad. How do you think of your material? Then?

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<v Speaker 3>How how does it come to you? Do you like brainstorm?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you take a sexual joke?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean for me, it was a really long process.

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<v Speaker 4>I really struggled last year with writing the show. The

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<v Speaker 4>fun fact is actually before the pandemic, we did plan

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<v Speaker 4>to do one show and then the pandemic hit, so

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<v Speaker 4>we had to cancel that, give everybody back their money.

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<v Speaker 4>And then two years later we put on six shows

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<v Speaker 4>in Sydney that sold out. So that's just the showing

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<v Speaker 4>the growth that I had during the pandemic. Demic on

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<v Speaker 4>social media. And for me, I had been writing the

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<v Speaker 4>show since twenty nineteen in a way, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of knew what I wanted to do, and then

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<v Speaker 4>when I sat down and wrote it, it's very much

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<v Speaker 4>I already knew what I wanted to do with my

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to make them very cohesive, have a start,

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<v Speaker 4>a middle, and an end, also have a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>a message to the show as well. And so I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I can talk about that because the show's over.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the last time I'm ever going to do

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<v Speaker 4>these shows in Adelaide. Because basically the theme of the

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<v Speaker 4>show is fake it till you make it, and I

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<v Speaker 4>tell these stories from throughout my life of times I

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<v Speaker 4>faked it, like going back to the Arias and making

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<v Speaker 4>my own outfit that looks a.

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<v Speaker 2>Million bucks, but it cost me twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, And so all these stories throughout my life

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<v Speaker 4>of times I had to use this fake it till

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<v Speaker 4>you make it method. And then at the end, I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of say, you know, during the pandemic, I had

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<v Speaker 4>this moment to myself, which is all true, that I

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<v Speaker 4>really had this this kind of epiphany, this out of

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<v Speaker 4>body experience, whatever you want to call it where I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of looked at this fake it till you make

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<v Speaker 4>it method that I've been using my whole life, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, where's it gotten me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gotten me nowhere, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so from that day forward, I decided to live

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<v Speaker 4>authentically and be authentically myself. And then it's funny, how

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<v Speaker 4>like my life's done a one eighties since then, and

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<v Speaker 4>suddenly all these new opportunities and fabulous things are happening,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, you have like this little message in

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<v Speaker 4>the show, which is like, once you stop faking it,

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<v Speaker 4>that's when you start to make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, because I really believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like what happened in my life is like once

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<v Speaker 4>I started being authentic, that's when people connected with me.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's when I started to really kill it on

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<v Speaker 4>social media. And so yeah, there's like a whole kind

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<v Speaker 4>of storyline to the show, and it's not all serious.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very funny. There's a lots of things that go

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<v Speaker 2>wrong and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 4>But writing the show is definitely one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 4>things I've ever done, especially just trying to cut it down.

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<v Speaker 4>I had so much content, but you're only allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>be on stage for like an hour tops, and so

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<v Speaker 4>your show needs to be about forty five minutes to

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<v Speaker 4>allow for all things going wrong or chatter with the

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<v Speaker 4>audience or whatever, and so condensing it down was so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say that this time.

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<v Speaker 4>Around the new tour, fat and fabulous it is. I

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<v Speaker 4>definitely am like, there's no issue with keeping that short

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<v Speaker 4>and sweet. Like I now know how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all good. I can keep it short and sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>You said a lot of the audience are your following base,

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<v Speaker 3>So do you get any hecklers or are they just like.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I say at the start of the show, like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't like the show, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>hear about it, you know, And I say, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't like the show, we are welcome to

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<v Speaker 4>get up and leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally couldn't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 4>I've already spent your money, you're not getting a refund.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not getting a refund, So doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Bother me, you know, I get up and leaveter ill

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<v Speaker 4>still get paid at the end of the day. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's about, you know, just controlling your audience in a

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<v Speaker 4>way to kind of set that boundary and say I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to hear your opinion. I couldn't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 4>You're here to watch me, you know, And it becomes

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<v Speaker 4>a funny joke in the show as well. I have

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<v Speaker 4>had a few people yell out and I just say

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<v Speaker 4>things like, excuse me, darling, it's my show, not yours.

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<v Speaker 3>You know on that anyone walk out, well.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't noticed them. If they have, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was going to say they're walking out, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Make Yeah, I don't know, like I've never had anyone

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<v Speaker 4>walk out that I've noticed, but I mean potentially some

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<v Speaker 4>people have.

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<v Speaker 1>We had someone walk out of our live show. We

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<v Speaker 1>did a live show. It was this this guy who

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<v Speaker 1>was told that our show was a strip show. So

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<v Speaker 1>he we got on stage. She was expecting Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>I to be naked. Ten minutes in, he realized it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't happening anytime soon because we were having a little

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<v Speaker 1>chat and he rolled on out.

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<v Speaker 3>This scene the oldest man front row as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it takes wears your head out to a whole

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<v Speaker 2>new level.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what we're saying that he was expecting a

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<v Speaker 1>different type of head. Has there been a moment speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of faking it till you make it? Has there been

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<v Speaker 1>a moment where you've thought, fuck, I've really made it here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I talk about that in the show as well,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's kind of funny. I say, like, that's when

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<v Speaker 4>you start to make it, and you know, everyone usually

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<v Speaker 4>collaps and goes WHOA when I go, well, hang on, Dale,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not there yet, Like I'm playing to one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty people in a dingy venue in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of so and so, you know, wait till i've someone

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<v Speaker 4>out of stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so even when you know you pretend that you've

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<v Speaker 4>made it, you still got to take the piss out

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<v Speaker 4>of you a little bit, because no one wants to

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<v Speaker 4>go to a comedy show and hear an inspirational story. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, Like I mean, there's been times throughout my life

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<v Speaker 4>that I definitely have like pinched me moments, But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know whether I've had a moment where I've gone old, MG,

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<v Speaker 4>I've made it. I feel like that that moment is

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<v Speaker 4>probably coming in the next couple of years. There's been

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<v Speaker 4>some exciting conversations happening over the last few months and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I have my career goals I have

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<v Speaker 4>my career things that I'm manifesting, and hopefully when I

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<v Speaker 4>take a few of those off, I'll be able to

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<v Speaker 4>say I could make it. But then again, does anyone

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<v Speaker 4>ever really make it? Because I feel like we can

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<v Speaker 4>have everything we want and say we've made it, and

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<v Speaker 4>we still want more.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe it's a case of.

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<v Speaker 3>That talk about that that you need to stop sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe like smell the roses because we're always thinking about, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the next.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing that celebrate the small weird And I guess like

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<v Speaker 1>the goal is always happiness over anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is what we do. Yeah, but then money is

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<v Speaker 3>good and killing to the top is fun as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But also I feel like I've accepted my fate that

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never be at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. Like, I think you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to be realistic about it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll see you up there.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll only get unblocked when you're at the very start.

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<v Speaker 1>You have your own podcast, Can you tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's called trash Alley.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a Spotify original podcast, which is so exciting because

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<v Speaker 4>the only other people that I know who have Spotify

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<v Speaker 4>original podcasts are Kim Kardashian and Megan Markle. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Spotify has clearly put us all in the same boat,

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<v Speaker 4>which I agree. It's a pop culture podcast, so we

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<v Speaker 4>kind of talk about like what's in the news and

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<v Speaker 4>things like that, and then it's also storytelling about our

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<v Speaker 4>own lives as well, So you know, I like to

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<v Speaker 4>sum it up like for anyone who's never listened before,

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<v Speaker 4>trash Alley is kind of like what you talk about

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<v Speaker 4>in a smokers area at a nightclub, which is what

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<v Speaker 4>it's named after. Trash Alley is what the smoking section

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<v Speaker 4>at Arc Sydney, which is a big gay nightclub on

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<v Speaker 4>Oxford Street.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it's.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we call solving some world problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Then yeah, yeah, well, I mean we get into all

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<v Speaker 4>the conspiracy theories, we get into all of the everything.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a it's a podcast full of everything. But yeah, basically,

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<v Speaker 4>I like to describe it as in like imagine, basically,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Ariana Grande releases a new song, and so

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<v Speaker 4>in our episode, we go, Ariana Grande has released a

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<v Speaker 4>new song. It's called break Up with Your Boyfriend, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we talk about the song, and then we go,

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<v Speaker 4>let's tell you about our worst breakup, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. So it's like we use pop culture to

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<v Speaker 4>tell stories and things like that, and it's really fun.

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<v Speaker 4>We are on a long hiatus right now. It's been

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<v Speaker 4>a long hiatus. We finished up at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>last year and then in January my granddad passed away

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<v Speaker 4>and that was a really difficult time for me and

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<v Speaker 4>I just needed some time to process. And it was

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<v Speaker 4>full on, which is sad. And then Sydney World Pride happened,

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<v Speaker 4>which was then the other end of the spectrum, the

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<v Speaker 4>happiest time of my life. I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 4>at Disneyland every day and so it's been an emotional rollercoaster.

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<v Speaker 4>I was very busy over Sidney World Pride, and then

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<v Speaker 4>of course now I have my shows in Adelaide, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it's just been a very busy time and we're

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<v Speaker 4>hoping to work out everybody's schedules and come back as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. Talk about Sydney World Pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, yeah, how was it? What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Sign at the back end of it, and like I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't realize how full on it is there, like how

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<v Speaker 3>much Sydney gets involved.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, andwhere I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if anyone realizes that how full on

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<v Speaker 4>it was going to be. Well, usually, you see, we

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<v Speaker 4>just have Marti Gras, which is totally different. So we

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.760
<v Speaker 4>have Marti Gras, which is our Pride season, happens every

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<v Speaker 4>year for about two and a bit weeks in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have obviously everybody knows the Mardi Gras Parade,

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<v Speaker 4>but people probably like a lot of people, don't know

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<v Speaker 4>that that's actually a seventeen day festival where things are

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<v Speaker 4>happening every day and I mean thousands of events are

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<v Speaker 4>happening every single day and just everything you can imagine everywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it's actually a two and a bit week celebration.

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<v Speaker 4>But everybody just knows the Mardi Gras Parade because that's

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.679
<v Speaker 4>pretty much what's on TV. And so this year we

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 4>hosted World Pride, which is very much like the Olympics.

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 4>You bid to world you bid to host World Pride.

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 4>We bid a few years ago, we won the bid

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 4>and you know, it brings so unfortunately we won it

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<v Speaker 4>I think before COVID and then COVID hit and so

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 4>it's usually like a very big investment because it just

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 4>brings so much tourism to Australia, and look it did,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't think it really hit as well as

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 4>they thought it was going to because a lot of

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 4>people didn't travel after the pandemic, and I mean, you know,

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 4>everything that's going on in the world right now, but

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 4>there were still a lot of people who came over.

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.399
<v Speaker 2>And obviously people came over from all over Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that, I did hear, and I don't don't

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<v Speaker 4>quote me on this, but I think that they had

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 4>more travelers like from Australia than international, which is like

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.399
<v Speaker 4>really good to see that, like Australia came out to

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 4>support World Pride. But I will say that, you know,

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 4>when you're in Sydney around World Pride, and as you

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 4>were saying, they really get stuck into it, Well, they

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 4>don't get stuck into it every year. It's just that

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 4>this year was Weld Pride, and like the city of

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Sydney and you know, councils and things could get on board.

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 4>So you were having World Pride events. Instead of just

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.919
<v Speaker 4>having World Pride events in the heart of Sydney. Sorry

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 4>mrighty Guarre events in the heart of Sydney, you were

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 4>now having World Pride, So your World Pride events were

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 4>like out in Paramatta and all over the shop and

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 4>everywhere Northern Beaches, you know, just all over Sydney, and

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 4>it became like a whole city.

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Thing, and so it was huge. It was really big,

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and it was so exhausting.

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.400
<v Speaker 4>I was running on like an alternation of red Bull

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 4>and sleeping pills, like just trying to keep my body

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 4>going for the whole seventeen days. And of course it

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 4>was seventeen days, but like two weeks before that that's

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:33.439
<v Speaker 4>when all the brands want to work with you on

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 4>social media in the lead up, and so it was

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 4>like five weeks.

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>So I've never worked so hard in my life.

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 4>It was so worth it. I had a great time.

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 4>I got to see Kylie Minogue, who is my favorite

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 4>human being in the entire world. That was probably my highlight.

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 2>And it was just nice to be gay.

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 4>But you know what, I definitely came out of it

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 4>being like I am homophobic. I had enough of gay, babe,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 4>I've had enough people. I need to take a break.

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 4>I would like, get me into a pub.

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I need to be That's not my friend said the

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 3>same thing. I was like, how was how's Pride week

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.639
<v Speaker 3>or Pride months, and he was like, I don't think

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm gay anymore.

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 4>It was that was that overwhelming feeling was around because

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 4>we've gone so hard and now we're like, oh my God,

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 4>give me a wife and kids.

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Was there any like fun stories that you can tell

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>us from Pride, anything wild happened, any juicy goss?

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 4>Sure there was really for me because I chose to

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 4>work this well Pride.

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Let me let me be honest with yes. And this

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 4>is the thing, like when it comes to brands wanting

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 4>to work with queer people during Pride season, you know,

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 4>it's a bit nath So I was like, well, if

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 4>they want to work with me, and you know, I'm

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 4>going to charge through the roof, I'm going to make

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 4>as much money as like, absolutely, and I'm not doing

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 4>anything I don't want to turn and I'm not working

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 4>for free.

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not working for free at all.

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 4>And so I didn't and it was amazing. It was

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 4>a lot of work, and all my morals and rules

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 4>still came into effect. Obviously, I still didn't work with

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.919
<v Speaker 4>brands as always that I don't want to work with

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 4>or don't use their products. I don't love the product.

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 4>But every brand I worked with, I was like, well, yeah.

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>But you can.

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna charge double my raids sometimes triple because it's

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 4>Pride season and queer people deserve to be paid. And

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe actually the amount of people or the

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 4>amount of brands sorry that reached out and just wanted

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 4>things for free. And what was disappointing is then I

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 4>saw people, you know, do the free shit, and I

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like, come on everyone, like if we're

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 4>not all in this together, then it's not gonna work.

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 4>And there were some really big brands who contacted me

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 4>to do things and I was like, wow, this is

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 4>an amazing opportunity, like cool, I'm ready, and then when

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 4>it got down to it, they had, oh, it's no budget,

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 4>we don't have any budget.

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean you don't have budget?

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Then you can't work with this, And then to see

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 4>other people work with them, I was kind of like,

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 4>why are you doing this for like a bottle of

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 4>wine and a packet of cookies, like you know, but

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 4>in terms of like crazy stories, well Pride, like no,

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 4>because I was working so hard and working so much

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 4>that I didn't really have time to like, let my

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 4>hair down and actually like truly enjoy myself and have fun. Yeah,

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I can't come through with the tea on

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 4>that one.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Usually I've got all the I've got all the tea,

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>oh the hot gud. Yeah, not this year. I was

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 2>too busy being a boss boss.

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it. What is your relationship status at the moment?

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I am divorced.

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm in a relationship with my partner, Skyla. We've been

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 4>together four years, four years coming up in August, and

0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 4>we're definitely gonna get married.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Like he's the one, I'm the one for him. We

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>just like know that.

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 4>It's like one of those when you know, you know

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 4>situations and we just know. We moved in together like

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 4>a year ago or so. It's been perfect. It's just

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:16.719
<v Speaker 4>that relationship. We never had a fight. We've never Nah,

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 4>it's so weird. It's so weird. But I really think

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 4>the pandemic helped because we were dating for six months

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 4>and then went into the pandemic. So then we were

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 4>kind of forced to spend a lot of time together

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 4>because you know, you had your little bubble, and so

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 4>I was staying at his house or he was staying

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 4>at my house, and I feel well, I feel like

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 4>it threw you in and it either made or broke you,

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, and for us, it definitely made us. Like

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 4>just spending that time together and like, yeah, like the

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 4>fact that we could be on top of each other

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 4>basically in more ways than one was definitely like and

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 4>we didn't get annoyed at each other. Was kind of

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 4>like solidifying the fact that we really love each other.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 4>And so we've been together four years. Yeah, we'll be

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 4>getting married for sure. Proposing we all know it's happening.

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, I've.

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Always wanted to propose to my partner, Like I've had

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 4>this dream of like proposing at the place that we met,

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 4>and like going back to the place we met or

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 4>where we had our first kiss more specifically, like where'd

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 4>you have your first kiss and like going back to

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 4>that moment and proposing and having it come full circle.

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm a very full circle kind of person. Yeah, so

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 4>our first kiss was in a bathroom Quebicuse.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Nightclub. It was close to trash all. We looked up

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>in a toilet.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 4>So won't be proposing, but yeah.

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I love it. I love love and I love

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>hearing these stories. It just like makes warm inside, and

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it gives people hope who are still in

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>toxic relationships to hear these stories that you don't have

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to be in relationship where you are constantly fighting.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, the way that we met was also so organic,

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 4>which I love. We didn't meet on a dating app

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. I went to a drag show

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 4>and he I saw. I was with my best friend

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 4>and I saw him across the room and I tapped

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 4>my best friend on the shoulder and I said, oh

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 4>my god, look at that boy. I'm like, like, he's

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 4>just so my tight, he's so perfect, he's fucking beautiful.

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 4>And I tapped my friend and I literally looked at him,

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 4>and I tapped my best friend and I go, look

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 4>at that guy. And he was like, oh my god,

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 4>because he knew what I was talking about. And I go,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 4>that's my future husband. And it was yeah, so manifest

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>that shit, ladies.

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 4>And then we became friends and we were like, oh,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 4>friends of a friend group. My best friend and me,

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 4>and then his best friend and him. We all became

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 4>like a little group, and then that group kind of

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 4>got bigger and we were friends for a very long time.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 4>And I remember like I had the biggest crush on him,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 4>and I was just trying to like do the groundwork

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 4>for like three or four months, and then finally I

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 4>could see he was like taking what I was putting down.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>And so there's a bit of a chase, and I

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 4>hate chasing, but it was definitely worth it. And yeah,

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 4>I just thought that we met really organically. Not that

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 4>there's anything wrong with meeting on a dating app or

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 4>a dating show, but yeah, like I.

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Just love that.

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 4>It was like one of those moments that we met

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 4>in real life, so lovely.

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Is there a proposal on the cards soon?

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Then?

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Can we say, well, I need to stop working because

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 4>there's no time to plan anything. I will say, as well,

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 4>here's the thing, though, even though we've been together four years,

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 4>like right now, it's not the right time, Like I

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 4>just know that, Like I feel like, although I know

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 4>that's happening, like you also know when you want to

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 4>want to propose, and to be honest.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Like now not that time. Always did say we've only

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>been living together for a year.

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I think i'd probably want to give that like two

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 4>years before you make your decision like that, just to

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 4>really make Yeah, although we haven't had a fight ever,

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 4>like you know, you never know, you just want to

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 4>really give it a test run before you look it down.

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't see it being an issue, but yeah, the

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 4>thing is like I just don't feel like I don't

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 4>have time to think about that, you know what I mean.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 4>So once I have some rest, I do plan to

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 4>take a bit of time off in a couple months.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 4>So you know, I'm not going to propose then, but

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 4>at least I can then think about it.

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 3>We'll be keeping our eye out for a proposal then, yea.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Well you won't be. You can't even see my podcast.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Probably you've me.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>How was your dating life before meeting Skylar them?

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you have any toxic relationships before?

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 4>My god, literally yes, I had so many toxic relationships.

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>They were awful, some of them were.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.479
<v Speaker 4>I was actually more of a situationship kind of person,

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Like there was never only official label on it, but

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 4>it was like months or years of like being in situationships.

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 4>But also probably my own fault, Like sometimes I was

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 4>in a situationship with three guys at a time, so

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 4>it was my own fault because like one I remember

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 4>getting into a situationship with like one guy and so

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 4>that was boring me, but you know, I was still

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 4>keeping him around. So I got another one, and there

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 4>was another situationship, and I was like, well that's boring

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 4>as well.

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>You're both boring, but I'll keep you around. And then

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I got third one.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 4>That wasn't until my best friend said something to me, like,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 4>you realize you've got three guys on the go at once,

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 4>which I mean is empowering.

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Monitor three guys at once, Like, yeah, well.

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>It's hard when you call one of them the wrong name,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:04.959
<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 3>They're all called they're called each other.

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, called one of them the wrong name during you know,

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 4>an active service, and yeah, that didn't go down well.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And actually I think that was the end of us then.

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 4>So just remember, if you're going to sleep around with

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 4>different people at the same time, just remember to call

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 4>as as Matt said, Matt's apro Apparently, I wouldn't know.

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It takes on to know.

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 3>I got to know.

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Just always that's hilarious. Do you have any good pickup lines,

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>because we are obviously a dating podcast and we always

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like to ask our guests to help the audience in

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>their dating lives.

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 2>My best pickup is it's not really a pick up one.

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Actually dating tip.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Maybe what's you?

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's that my favorite like pickup line sort of

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 4>esque thing is Elvira when someone asks her like, how's

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 4>how's your head and she goes, I've never had any complaints.

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a slow burn. But I don't know.

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 4>I've never been a pick up As I said, I

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 4>hate hate chase, so I've never been a pickup line person,

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 4>Like you're doing the pickup lines on me, and you know,

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 4>for the most part, you didn't need a pick up

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 4>line as long as you look good. I was ready anyway,

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 4>so didn't even matter what your name was, didn't have

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 4>to learn it half the time, the wrong one anyway,

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 4>exactly exactly. But dating tips, look, I would say, oh,

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 4>I've got the biggest dating tip for you, And I

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 4>really think this is half the reason that our relationship

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 4>is so successful. Seriously, though, for a minute, the fact

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 4>is that Sky and I have very separate friend groups.

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 4>So we have a friend group that before we started

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 4>dating was a friend group. So we're obviously still all

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 4>a friend group, and that's fine.

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 2>But I mean.

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 4>Friends that I didn't meet before dating him. I have

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 4>no relationship with and I think that is one of

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 4>the biggest and best things about our relationship and vice versa.

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 4>He obviously knows my friends, I know his friends. We

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, they come over and obviously we have a

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 4>conversation that I couldn't tell you anything about their lives

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 4>and he couldn't tell you anything about any of my

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 4>friend's lives. And although that sounds really like harsh and

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 4>black and white, it's not exactly like that. But what

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 4>I think that does is there's no like mixing between

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 4>friends and relationship and things like that. I feel like

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 4>all of the breakdowns in the past is because I've

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 4>wanted my partners to like be besties with my best friends,

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 4>and then when it gets messy, it gets really really messy.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 4>And so although like we obviously have a great relationship

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 4>with the other with like I know Sky's friends' names,

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 4>I know what they do for work, and that's about it.

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>And when they come over, we catch up high how

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 4>are you, what's been happening? But I never message one

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 4>of them and say happy birthday or anything like that,

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like, we don't have that

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 4>sort of relationship. And he we're very conscious, especially after

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 4>probably spending so much time together during the lockdowns. We're

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 4>very conscious that we need time apart as much as

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 4>we have time together. So I'm always happy when he's like,

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm going out for dinner with my friend on Thursday night,

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, freaking.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Go, Like, enjoy your life.

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 4>I never want to be one of those boyfriends either

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 4>that like gets upset at my partner for wanting to

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 4>go and do things with his friends and things like that.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you, babe, you do whatever you like. I'll

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.359
<v Speaker 4>be here sitting and waiting for you. Or I might

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 4>go out for dinner with one of my friends. Yeah,

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 4>And so we really take time to still spend time

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 4>with the people in our life, but it's not all

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 4>co mingled together. And I think that is honestly one

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 4>of the best reasons why it works. I like that too,

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 4>It's we really we know that time apart is as

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 4>sport and as time together.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Totally. No, I think that's really good.

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I agree. I think that there has to be some

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I think there has to be you have to have

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 3>your own time, Like I love my own time. My

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 3>own time is like He's great, and then you get

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 3>to hang out with your friends, have a beer and like, you.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, yeah, for sure, do you have an embarrassing

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>dating story that you could tell us?

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Plenty of them on earth.

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 4>I think my most embarrassing was probably when I called

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 4>the guy the wrong name.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 3>What happened? Do you just take up?

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 4>Because the other guy that I called him the name

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 4>of is my ex and or he already knew about

0:37:54.120 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 4>that guy the biggestine and I had slept with him

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.240
<v Speaker 4>that morning, and the other guy came.

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Over in the afternoon, so I just got confused. There

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of men.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 4>In the house at once, you know, I got confused.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.760
<v Speaker 2>That was probably the most embarrassing dating.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 4>But see, look the other thing as well is as

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 4>a gay man, dating is very different. In fact, we

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 4>hardly date at all in the world. I mean maybe

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 4>these days it's a little bit different, but definitely beforehand,

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 4>there was no There was not much dating happening. You

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 4>didn't hear of people going on dates. You didn't really

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 4>go on dates yourself. I never really I was never

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 4>really seeking anyone to date. I was more so just

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 4>like looking for sex at the end of the day,

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 4>or maybe not even sex, just like other things. But

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 4>for me, like I yeah, didn't I mean apart from

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 4>my situationships. Before I was in relationship, Like you know,

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 4>I was on all the apps, you know, finding finding men,

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 4>but not to not to date just to be like

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 4>come over, you know what I mean. We kind of

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 4>just got straight to the point. We're very busy gay people.

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 4>We're very busy. We've just got to in and out

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 4>do it and then never see you again. And so yeah,

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like embarrassing dating stories. I never really

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 4>went on dates, to be honest.

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, embarrassing grinders stories?

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Would you say, Oh my god, where do I start?

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:34.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay, one time I was almost murdered because I downloaded.

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I was on my I was on grinder. Here we go.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 4>This is a big story for you. But oh my god,

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 4>it ends so badly as well.

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Well you're obviously alive, so didn't.

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 4>No, it's actually a full one eighty. I'll keep it

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 4>real short for you. I tell the full story on

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 4>trash Alley, but it's it's a long story, but I'll

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 4>keep it short.

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I was messaging this guy.

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.919
<v Speaker 4>He was like, come over, I'll give you a full

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 4>body massage, and I was like, you know what that actually,

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 4>that's really good. I'm okay with that. He's like, oh,

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 4>what's your address. I give him the address. He's like,

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 4>there's a taxi out the front. And so I get

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 4>in the taxi and I'm like hey, and I think

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.280
<v Speaker 4>he's booked me a taxi. No, he's a taxi driver.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 4>And he looked nothing like his pictures. And he starts.

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Like driving and rubbing my leg. And then he's like,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I've got to drop.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 4>The taxi back to the taxi rink in Alexandria and

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 4>then you can book an uber to my house and

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 4>I'll do the whole massage thing. And I didn't have

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 4>enough money to pay for an uber all these years ago,

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 4>and so I was like stressed now and I was like, oh,

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 4>I can't do that. He drops his car off at

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 4>the taxi rank, and then anyway, all this other stuff happened.

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 4>I tried to get out of the car. He locked

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 4>the doors. This is before the taxi rank. But I

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.240
<v Speaker 4>mean he didn't in one way. He didn't mean any harm,

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't think, but like like he wasn't like not

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 4>letting me out, but the doors were locked and I

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.479
<v Speaker 4>couldn't open the door, and so then but it wasn't

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 4>like a full on thing, like I think it just

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 4>genuinely like locked the doors and I didn't, you know,

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 4>so I'm panicking.

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm drunk anyway at the time. And then I get

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 2>out of the taxi and run and then he like when.

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 4>He unlocks the doors for me to get out so

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.240
<v Speaker 4>he could go into the taxi rink, and then he

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 4>turns around and chases me with the taxi down the street.

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 4>And then I run into this apartment building and I hide,

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 4>and then he gets out of the taxi and comes

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 4>in and follows me. But like, again, I just think

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 4>he was trying to be like genuinely nice, but I

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:28.479
<v Speaker 4>was just freaking out.

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, Oh God, tradition, I think he

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 2>might have been.

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 4>But I was just like profiling him and being like, na,

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna mad me.

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 2>So I.

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 4>Got on grinder again and was then seeking refuge with

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 4>whoever was nearest, and so then I then I I

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 4>messaged a guy and he was like, yeah, come up

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 4>to mine, and I get up there, and did you

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 4>know what a bukhaky is?

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, we might just ask the guests to, like

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 4>the listeners to google what a bier khaki is.

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I don't know.

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 4>So I get up to the to the room and

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 4>he gets it and I'm just taking refuge. He's trying

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.919
<v Speaker 4>to be sexual, but I was like, I'm actually having

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 4>a bit of a pedic attack, so I can't.

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>And he wasn't that attractive either.

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 4>But then he asked he got a phone call and

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 4>said and they asked if he wanted to come over

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 4>for a bu khaki and he said, oh, well, I

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 4>got someone here can I bring them? And he asked

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 4>me and says, do you want to go have a berkhaki?

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sitting there having a panic attack, you know,

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 4>like just out of my mind thinking this this is

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 4>not where I thought I would end up.

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, do you want to have a bukharkie?

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 2>And I went, oh, well, all right.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Then it was a very exciting experience. It was a

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 4>one off. I'll never probably do it again, but it

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 4>was it was it was fun and that's probably the

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 4>wildest story. There's a lot more detail, but I feel like.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>You guys need to tell me what a few khaki

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>is because I'm feeling left out. What is it?

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Might you might want to cut it out of the okay, Well,

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 4>it's like, have you heard of a circle jerk then.

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>So you'll blow on one thing. Yeah, it's when you

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>all like you circle jerk, Yeah you probably.

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 4>So I walked into this few khaky not knowing what

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 4>to expect.

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you it was.

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 4>The hottest fucking footballer body time. Like they look like

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 4>they all played for the Sydney Boosters, you know what

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Like I was in heaven. So I'm in

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 4>the middle and it's kind of like, you know, they're

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 4>they're just kind of like all standing around you, and

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 4>you're just taking your pick at what you want to

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 4>grab and and then I become, you know, the canvas

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 4>for the painting.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, as full on as that sounds,

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you they were all real gentlemen. Like

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 2>they were. They just it sounds like it's crazy.

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 4>They treated me with so much respect, and I appreciate that.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we've gone from like this trauma situation

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>getting chased by a fucking car taxi into this. I

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>did not see that coming A bunch of Sydney roosters.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I did not see it coming either, but it did.

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Wait, that is an amazing story.

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 3>I love it just a question how many does do

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 3>you remember? How many?

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 4>There were four? And then the guy that brought me

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<v Speaker 4>from his apartment that I see refuge in, he sat

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<v Speaker 4>on the lounge, so like there were five guys in

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 4>the room and me, but there were only four, and

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<v Speaker 4>the one that sat on the lounge just was like

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<v Speaker 4>pleasuring himself and watching it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you invite the taxi drivers blocked for life? I

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 3>have a question actually about like gay relationships in that

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<v Speaker 3>that I find fascinating. Are you in a monogamous one or.

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<v Speaker 2>Is yeah, I am you.

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<v Speaker 4>Are yeah, because I find always been really important to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not for a lot of people in the gay community.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, and the good thing about Skyla is he

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<v Speaker 4>was looking for the same thing. So we're very monogamous.

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<v Speaker 4>We've never strayed. But I feel like I had my

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<v Speaker 4>time before this relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Boundary Do you set up boundary from the star? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it a conversation that comes up early or is it like, yeah, for.

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<v Speaker 4>Us, we had that conversation before we even started dating.

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<v Speaker 4>And also I think before we even started really talking

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<v Speaker 4>to each other a bit more seriously, I think we

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<v Speaker 4>just I think I just popped that question like in

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 4>the friend group and was like, what do we all think?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I wanted to gauge his interests because if he

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 4>wanted to be you know, open, open, then I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know whether I could deal with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing. You know what's really funny.

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<v Speaker 4>It is like I have this is so random, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know Jess from The Bachelor this season, did you

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<v Speaker 4>want to Bachelor's this season? Is that the blonde guy,

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<v Speaker 4>the blonde girl who had the open relationship, So like

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 4>she was saying some things and she was making really

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<v Speaker 4>good points and me and Sky were like talking and

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<v Speaker 4>we were like, wow, that's so interesting, Like yeah, we

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 4>definitely don't want that, but like that's so interesting, and

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 4>we kind of like now because I've come to a

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<v Speaker 4>point where before this relationship, I like never understood why

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 4>anyone else would want to be with anyone else except

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 4>their partner.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just like my whole thing.

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 4>And I always looked at people who were in open

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 4>relationships as like why are you even bothering?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 4>And like, now though I still don't want that, I

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 4>now understand it and I now go, well, if someone

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 4>else that's an open relationship. Absolutely, like you go for

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 4>it as long as you're both on the same page.

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.919
<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, not something that we want for our relationship now.

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean that could change in the future. I don't

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 4>see it changing, but but yeah, I know it's a

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 4>big thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a sex expert come onto our podcast recently,

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<v Speaker 1>called doctor Tara, and she explained to us that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of couples are moving from monogamyth monogamy, monogamy to monogamish,

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<v Speaker 1>and the monogamish part is just like a random threesome

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>here and like a little play there, and it's kind

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>of like a little bit of dabbling, but mainly monogamy monogamous.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even talk monogamish, monogamish monogamy, Yeah, monogamy, monogamish. Yeah, yeah,

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>apparently monogamish is like the new monogamy supposedly.

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 4>So what's monogamish Is that just like introducing someone into

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 4>your relationship just one night thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just like, yeah, just very or if your

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 3>sexual needs or desires aren't linked up, that they come

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 3>to an agreement that for instance.

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<v Speaker 1>Say so it's like ninety percent of the time you're monogam.

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, say one of them wants more sexy, the other

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 3>one sex drive, can't keep up with it. It's a

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 3>discussion had and they've said, Okay, you can go. I

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 3>guess I mean pay for something. You could pick someone up,

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 3>or you could have someone on the side that you

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 3>you find if you Yeah, the other one can't keep

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 3>up with it.

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like a conversation and communication. Yeah, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting hearing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's a bit like awkward to bring

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 4>someone in, Like like I think if we wanted to

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 4>try spicing it up, I don't think i'd go straight

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 4>to let's bring a third person into our bed.

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Totally feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's almost easier to actually just go

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 4>and sleep with someone else altogether then bring a third

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 4>person in.

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know.

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 4>I just did a story about a big car keeper,

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, threesome scamy, you know, because that would have

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<v Speaker 4>been the odd one out.

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.840
<v Speaker 2>But I feel left down in my own threesome.

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess, I mean your partner going off and

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 3>doing stuff that fucking not knowing would kill me, like

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 3>would eat me alive. I reckon, I couldn't compartmentalize.

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Matt and I are way too jealous to ever be

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:25.280
<v Speaker 1>in another miss relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about it. Then it's something to spice

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.959
<v Speaker 3>it up. Be you could invite someone to watch look

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<v Speaker 3>well brainstorm able to.

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<v Speaker 4>Find anyone to watch me?

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<v Speaker 2>Very very niche Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like a creepy person in the corner, like masturbating

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to you, like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just giving me the driver, give me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. It's been lovely having you on the podcast. Thank

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you so so much for coming on. It's been a pleasure.

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you for having me Joel, it's been

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 4>a whod It's been the greatest way to start my day.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, I'll look to unblock you or you unblocked me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll speak to the people at Instagram higher up and

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<v Speaker 3>see what's going on.

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something's going on. It's all gone wrong in high

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 2>school or something. Because I don't know what's going on there.

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 3>That's strange, very strange, right, Thank you, thank you, Thanks mate,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you,