1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: You know what Marvel's good this time of year as well, 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: close the roof warmer. How's that we were talking about. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: It's the Internet and the algorithm. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: I know you reckon it's the algorithm. 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: So last week we were talking about the procedure that 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: is opening and closing the roof of Marble. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 4: We have a segment called the Experts, and you suggested 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 4: that one of the experts could be the person who 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 4: opens and closes the roof, and we were like, it'd 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 4: be very quick. 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: I think they just hit a button. 12 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: We thought it might be a garage situation. It's quite complex. 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: Minutes later I look at Instagram and there is a 14 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: video posted of the procedure of them opening and closing 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: the roof of Marble. It looks like launching nooks on 16 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: a sub. 17 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: Technique, not. 18 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 5: Two key job. 19 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: It's because it's like you've got to be sure you 20 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 4: want to do it. 21 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 5: So if you accidentally flick one K and KB and 22 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 5: then press the button. 23 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: No no, no, before they press the button. 24 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: Then they do an announcement, please stand clear the roof 25 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: is opening, standing on the roof or just like if 26 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: people are cleaning the I don't know. 27 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: No one's allowed to be under it. 28 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: Okay, something falls down, so they could never open at 29 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 4: mid game like they do in the tennis at Rod Labor. Yeah, 30 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 4: I don't know, because Gold Labor, the players are sitting 31 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: there on the roof opens and closes. 32 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: That would be a grudge. 33 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: And it takes how long? 34 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: Eight minutes? 35 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Eight minutes return to open and close? 36 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 5: Do you know who's got a great explanation for the 37 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 5: algorithm thing is travel? We must get him on one 38 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 5: you love? 39 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: Are you in love with Trevor? 40 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: I am. 41 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 5: He's a gadget man, but he can explain why it 42 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 5: pops up. It's not it's actually not Apparently apparently it's 43 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 5: not device listening. 44 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Phone is listening every time to open two. 45 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: Show us the video of opening and closing the roofs 46 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: when we've just been talking about it. 47 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: We need to get Trevor on no. 48 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: I want you to explain. 49 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. Can we get the next please? 50 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Can we see if we can get trevele on the 51 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: phone next Trevor Long text for extraordinary because I'm telling. 52 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: You, mate, remember the Long our mystery guest coming up? 53 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: There? 54 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Trevor Long is not our mystery guest. 55 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: Remember the famous photo of Mark Zuckerberg's desk at Facebook, 56 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: and he had a post it note over the camera, 57 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: on the computer monitor and over the microphone. 58 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: He knew he's listening. 59 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's try, let's try, and I want it. 60 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: That's going to be on our phone, like you. 61 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: Know what I'm going to start. I love chocolate licorice. 62 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: Like raspberry chocolate. If you do it like. 63 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: That, it doesn't it knows that chocolate. It knows you 64 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: give it a couple of minutes. 65 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 4: And unfortunately for everyone else driving in the cars right now, 66 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: they're going to be getting. 67 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Everybody in Melbourn's getting bloody chocolate. 68 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: Welcome morning, Melbourne. It is just gone a quarter to nine. 69 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: We're going to mystery guest about to join us in 70 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: the studio. This is when they give wrap a celebrity. 71 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: The producers do and bring them in and we have 72 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: to asked questions and work out let's know who it is. 73 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: Last time we did. 74 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: This, one of us know. 75 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: We had Peter Andre, We've had Robbie Williams. One Robbie 76 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: was up there. So before we get to our mystery guest, 77 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: my man Crush is joining us on the air. 78 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: We were just talking about the algorithm. 79 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 5: Now, Trevor Long Morning expert. 80 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,559 Speaker 1: Extraordinary. 81 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: Gooday, trev good morning. 82 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Where are you? Where are you coming to us from 83 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: this morning? 84 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: Electric car? Apologize, that's all right. 85 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 5: Hate Now, my two friends Jason Loan, who sometimes wear 86 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: tinfoil hats, believe that the phones. 87 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: The iPhone listens to what you. 88 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: Say and the computers. Now you've got an explanation for 89 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: this target phenomenon, Trevor. 90 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 6: My wife thinks the same thing, and she pointed out 91 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 6: to me every third day. But the fact is your 92 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 6: phone physically can't be listening because actually at the top 93 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 6: of your phone there's a little yellow dot or a 94 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 6: green dot. If you're microphone is listening, it's orange, power 95 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 6: is on, it's green. That's like literally white into the 96 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 6: hardware of the phone. So if the microphone's ever active, 97 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 6: that little orange dot will be on and you can 98 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 6: swipe down a seat which. 99 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: Have been using it. 100 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 6: It's basically technically impossible for to continually listen to you. 101 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: But then how do you explain the algorithm. 102 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: It's a phenomenon. 103 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 6: Called cognitive bias. So basically researchers have looked into this. 104 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 6: Your brain is only attuned to the things that you've 105 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 6: recently been talking about. And so if you're swiping through 106 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 6: and you see an ad for the mal Dives, you 107 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 6: ignore it. You ignore it, you ignore it years after years. 108 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 6: But then when you've been talking your mates about the Maldives, 109 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 6: that that ad is going to pop, it's going to 110 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 6: resonate with you due to cognitive bias. 111 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: Was always so because we were talking, and this is 112 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: very niche. We were talking about how the roof it's 113 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: not Telsted anymore, stadium opens and closes next minute, a 114 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: sponsored not a sponsored like a suggested Instagram video about 115 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: the Marvel roof opening and closing. 116 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I can't explain it other than to tell 117 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 6: you that your phone can't listen to you all the time. 118 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: I really can't. I'm not buying Trevors. 119 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Is Zuckerberg in the car with you with the gundy head. 120 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: It's okay, you can tell us have you drunk the 121 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: kool aid? 122 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: In fact, Trevor Travelong is common sense. He's common sense, 123 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: and his solutions. 124 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Is our technology. 125 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: Can't he said, he can't explain extraordinary. 126 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: We'll be able to see him. 127 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 5: I'm still waiting for Darrely to pop up. That's right, 128 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 5: I sort of screamed it in. 129 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't even think you'll be able to say it. 130 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: What is it? 131 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Cognitive bias? 132 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: What it means travelong cheers mate. 133 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: It is just gone twelve to nine. It's listening. It's not, 134 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: it's in. It's listening. 135 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 5: Jase and Lauren. 136 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: Lauren wake up feeling good following them on the socials 137 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: H