Speaker 1: H'm I Boris and this is straight talk low and Jack.
Speaker 1: Oh should I say Jorge?
Speaker 2: That's fine? My Jack or Judge. It's no.
Speaker 3: You used to be Jack. When I met you ten
Speaker 3: years ago, you were Jack? Youorge?
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, when did Jack.
Speaker 2: It's something like a Pokemon I evolved.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, true, your kid's game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been Judge. I've been Judge since school.
Speaker 5: But what I've found is that George is a very
Speaker 5: It's a difficult nickname for people to grasp just when
Speaker 5: they hear it audibly. So when they're like, that's George,
Speaker 5: people go charge Judge Josh. Yes, So I tend to
Speaker 5: introduce myself as Jack because it's easier.
Speaker 6: I had a bloke call me and he was like
Speaker 6: you and Jark Jack like, well no, but I'll let
Speaker 6: you slide with that one.
Speaker 4: I kept him rolling.
Speaker 5: People think it's sort of Eastern European or something, but
Speaker 5: it's just an amalgam of my front and the suburbs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Jack. Archdale's my name, So it's Jorge.
Speaker 3: So if you just indulged me for a second, because
Speaker 3: Jark and I did a wasn't it we did?
Speaker 1: We did a podcast maybe ten years.
Speaker 3: I think you guys, You and the Streets are sitting
Speaker 3: Boys in one of the very first podcasts I over
Speaker 3: did and John I Broom's old studio, Yes right, there
Speaker 3: were we, which which actually was built originally for Kyle
Speaker 3: by John and but Kyle decided fink that I'm going
Speaker 3: to go to America and started somehow doing his show
Speaker 3: out of Las.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal was, but it was available.
Speaker 3: It has cost me two hundred bucks to hit and
Speaker 3: they gave us everything and we did this thing. I
Speaker 3: think I first did a podcast You and the Boys
Speaker 3: and which I Foundhi thereous, and then you guys helped
Speaker 3: us on the uber pitch we did.
Speaker 2: We did, so we started back. We were all working
Speaker 2: at normal jobs. I think I was made.
Speaker 5: I might have been an over then as an account
Speaker 5: director or I believes a shit kicker and we're all
Speaker 5: going to use so the Hallow Sport Boys, but Tutor Boys, myself,
Speaker 5: a couple others all went to UNI together and studied
Speaker 5: commercial radio and we always had a creative side, but
Speaker 5: we never really had an outlet to do it. And
Speaker 5: the boys won about four grand on more Chilis on
Speaker 5: the Pokes and they said, we can make this into
Speaker 5: a big old night, or we can buy some kit,
Speaker 5: some filming kit, microphones and do a mockumentary style series,
Speaker 5: like a comedy series. So that's what we did.
Speaker 2: We wrote it and I was Nick Maloosh.
Speaker 4: So many people always ask me about him.
Speaker 2: When people, Oh, yeah, by.
Speaker 3: The way, I know who Nick Malush is based off
Speaker 3: I actually know the dude.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got punched at the wedding because of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't by someone in his family, because I
Speaker 1: know how he dresses.
Speaker 4: I think I know the name, because he.
Speaker 3: Was like a Lennen shirt, yeah, button none down here
Speaker 3: and blue and the shir blue pants, you know, like
Speaker 3: the docks sizes, no socks.
Speaker 5: So I played him and then we did a thing
Speaker 5: you would you were doing an uber pitch, but I
Speaker 5: think it was people could pitch their ideas in the
Speaker 5: back of an Ober.
Speaker 3: We launched UBI here in Sydney and we ran a
Speaker 3: pitch day all around Australia. We ran it here in
Speaker 3: Sydney mostly, and we got you guys to help us out.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what you guys were doing.
Speaker 2: So what we were doing.
Speaker 5: We were in the back of an uber and we
Speaker 5: descripted things. So it was like they had to pitch
Speaker 5: to Nick.
Speaker 2: So I was playing Nick Malus in the back of
Speaker 2: the urber and this people would jump in.
Speaker 5: The cab and it'd be like, so, basically, I'm thinking
Speaker 5: about sustainable things, you know, this sustainable energy program that
Speaker 5: we can implement in Zimbabwe. And I'd be like, ship,
Speaker 5: ship idea, and then I'd steal their ideas, can we
Speaker 5: swear yeah, fuck out of this funk out of my
Speaker 5: uber black? And then I'd nick their ideas And then
Speaker 5: our part was which can I just say I feel
Speaker 5: like we bounced off.
Speaker 1: Each other very well, I don't really kick you. Remind
Speaker 1: me what.
Speaker 2: We did showed me.
Speaker 5: That's a different one. I pulled up in an uber
Speaker 5: and you were like, get on, how are you mate?
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, markey, big boy, good to see a chap.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, you know, me just a boss in the
Speaker 5: back of an uber just listening to these clubs.
Speaker 2: Pitch basically is what I'm doing. Mate, You get it.
Speaker 5: You'd be sick of it, and you basically had to
Speaker 5: rouse on me and say, don't fuck this up.
Speaker 2: For me mate, like, you know, stick to the plan, do.
Speaker 5: What I've told you, blah blah blah, and I'm like, Markey,
Speaker 5: oh gotcha, Markey, you can trust me.
Speaker 6: Voice is terrifying because you're so good, Like it's so
Speaker 6: it's double bay like in one little voice.
Speaker 3: Do you get confused you guys? Like, is there a
Speaker 3: person person outside of your character? Like Lou is a
Speaker 3: person on outside of your character the character you convey
Speaker 3: on your podcast on radio.
Speaker 1: We're about to do radio. We'll talk a minute later.
Speaker 1: But is there a persona outside of that or it
Speaker 1: is you?
Speaker 6: I think we're pretty lucky that we honestly are who
Speaker 6: we are and we sit down, like I think it works,
Speaker 6: like we bring out the best side of each other
Speaker 6: in terms of personality.
Speaker 4: You know, if you get put the.
Speaker 6: Best accents, we bring out the best side and each other.
Speaker 4: So we get that weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, sorry, continue, Okay, stop, we'll roll again.
Speaker 6: Okay, we bring out the best side and each other
Speaker 6: because it's not often you can just sit down on
Speaker 6: a chair and talk that much ship.
Speaker 4: You know you can with your best mate.
Speaker 6: So we get to bring out that weird side of
Speaker 6: your personality that I feel like only your small bubble
Speaker 6: of friends or family.
Speaker 4: Really get to see.
Speaker 6: But we show it to everyone. But it is so
Speaker 6: natural to us. Obviously we can be serious. I mean,
Speaker 6: we did do a business meeting once and I impersonated
Speaker 6: a din, But we can be serious.
Speaker 5: But it is what you're getting on the podcast is
Speaker 5: who we are. And that's why I think what we're
Speaker 5: doing and we mean, well, you know, it's essentially is
Speaker 5: just two mates.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you were.
Speaker 3: They had in to remind me name of that podcast too,
Speaker 3: by the way, because I have to just keep looking
Speaker 3: at the top.
Speaker 1: Of your hat tactically. He did tell me that before
Speaker 1: he came in.
Speaker 3: He said, just in case you forget the name podcast
Speaker 3: on the top of head, just look at that.
Speaker 4: I've got the blue shameless plugs.
Speaker 2: Shameless plugs.
Speaker 1: We go going, sorry, so we mate.
Speaker 5: I think one of the great things about it is
Speaker 5: Lou and I started off we didn't.
Speaker 2: Really know each other that well.
Speaker 5: We've been doing some videos together, writing and film and skits,
Speaker 5: and you know, this opportunity for a potential podcast came
Speaker 5: up and I said to Lou, I was like, hey,
Speaker 5: would you want to do a podcast with me?
Speaker 2: Like I think we could do it. I think it
Speaker 2: would be really funny.
Speaker 1: But did someone put that idea to you? Hallo sport boys, Okay,
Speaker 1: they'll put you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4: So not us together.
Speaker 6: We were just doing what we were doing, and we
Speaker 6: were like, oh, let's try a podcast because fun And
Speaker 6: every time we'd film.
Speaker 1: Out of where they do the studio studio.
Speaker 5: So they'd been I was telling this, yarist they've been
Speaker 5: trying to get me to do. I was a bloke
Speaker 5: on the piss that was always going like, mate, I've
Speaker 5: got this idea for a podcast, and blah blah blah,
Speaker 5: and Eddie eventually just goes, mate, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 5: Every time on the piece, you do this. If you
Speaker 5: want to do something, let's let's do something. And I
Speaker 5: was like, well, you need to film it with lou
Speaker 5: I need a low And I was like, I've been
Speaker 5: filmed with this bird.
Speaker 2: She's hilarious. I think that'd be a good dynamic.
Speaker 5: So at the start of the podcast, when people started listening,
Speaker 5: they got to see our relationship we were getting to
Speaker 5: as well, so they sat.
Speaker 2: The audience sort of grew with us a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's like a proper conversation. Then like, it's a proper
Speaker 3: get to know you.
Speaker 6: The best thing how we came up with for the podcast.
Speaker 6: We meanwhile, we call our listeners the bid Winners because
Speaker 6: I used to be with the Beer while I was twelve.
Speaker 6: When I was telling this yarn on the podcast and.
Speaker 4: Then was like, fuck off, I used to with the
Speaker 4: B two.
Speaker 6: We both had this beeper thing that would beat when
Speaker 6: you're about to pee.
Speaker 1: And kids, Yeah, We're like, yeah it is. Is that
Speaker 1: a real thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like to know you're about to pee, detect
Speaker 5: the moisture and had to start beeping.
Speaker 2: But I was such a deep sled by that to
Speaker 2: just wake up the whole house.
Speaker 1: Dream that you were in the bathmo having a pet.
Speaker 3: I don't mean to id actually dreamt I was having
Speaker 3: I was in the toilet but having a peek and.
Speaker 4: You just in your bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah I did six months ago.
Speaker 1: Big night out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's our audience.
Speaker 5: You know, if you're looking out on the inside of
Speaker 5: this thing that we've created and you hear us talking
Speaker 5: about bed weathers, you just think that's insane, but it has.
Speaker 5: We just started saying bed weathers for life because we
Speaker 5: were both bedweathers, and then that's what the audience came
Speaker 5: and we started calling them bedweathers. They'd call them with
Speaker 5: their own stories and.
Speaker 6: You'd be walking down the street and someone will go
Speaker 6: bedwetter and you go, yeah, do.
Speaker 3: You think do you think that you guys are really
Speaker 3: good at finding the commons and the common denominator, Like
Speaker 3: it's that's a hard thing to find, like to about it,
Speaker 3: to be able to define your audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and or grow the audience.
Speaker 6: I think we're we're so lucky without all audience, Like
Speaker 6: they're just sort of the same as us, and they
Speaker 6: The thing with podcasting is it's like they know what
Speaker 6: they're getting. If you come and listen, you know what
Speaker 6: you're getting. When you flick on the radio. You might
Speaker 6: be in the car going who the fuck are these two?
Speaker 6: Like I don't know or like anything they're saying. But
Speaker 6: our audience are listening every week there because they're involved
Speaker 6: in this sort of like community we've created. We'd a
Speaker 6: group of people who met through the podcast and they
Speaker 6: all went on holiday together.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So what what platforms? Your is your product? So platforms
Speaker 1: who produces your podcast? You got a production that's Shane.
Speaker 4: Keep the sport boys.
Speaker 1: Boys, the sports they're doing it? And how did you
Speaker 1: meet Jack?
Speaker 3: So weird apart from the fact that you were doing
Speaker 3: stuff right, but prior to that.
Speaker 6: So we actually both lived in Rose Bay, and first
Speaker 6: time we saw each other, I went, hey, TikTok.
Speaker 2: Guy, TikTok boy, TikTok girl.
Speaker 4: And then we were like see ya, And that was
Speaker 4: kind of a.
Speaker 1: So you were following him and he was following you
Speaker 1: sort of thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I was just following herse you just never
Speaker 5: say men around the street, very good. I was actually
Speaker 5: doing up my shoelace and you walk past with one
Speaker 5: of your mates.
Speaker 2: TikTok boy. I said, oh, TikTok girl.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I started yarning to people and figured out she
Speaker 5: lived bloody four hundred minutes up the road from him.
Speaker 1: Yarn and people, you stalked her?
Speaker 4: He was outside my bedroom window.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever terminology you want to use, mate, you feel.
Speaker 3: We just ask people about her, like that's a bit weird,
Speaker 3: Like there's his chick walk past me and rose Bad
Speaker 3: she said, hey, TikTok.
Speaker 1: Boy, do you know her? No more to it, let's
Speaker 1: get into it.
Speaker 5: You're dead, right, So she was dating a bloke at
Speaker 5: the time who was had a mutual friend of mine
Speaker 5: from back where I'm from in Wolka. He was really
Speaker 5: good mates with his fella, Harry Lock, and so there
Speaker 5: was a connection there. I said, what a small world
Speaker 5: this is all going on?
Speaker 1: How did you find that out.
Speaker 4: Talking?
Speaker 5: Yeah, listening to her own conversations. That diary is very
Speaker 5: in depth that I read.
Speaker 1: So you actually did some research.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I heard because I talked to people.
Speaker 5: I bumped into that lat Loo bird or do you
Speaker 5: know that her boyfriend's good mates with her?
Speaker 2: Bullshit talk to Harry. Oh yeah, I'm good mates with him.
Speaker 5: And then suddenly all these connections started linking up of
Speaker 5: how we had mutual friends and then we just did
Speaker 5: bump into each other at Bloody's Sonoma We're getting a
Speaker 5: coffee and we exchanged numbers.
Speaker 2: Film.
Speaker 6: I feel like I told you, like I just word
Speaker 6: vomited and told you I just quit.
Speaker 2: I've quit my job.
Speaker 5: I've only got twenty thousand followers, but I have quit.
Speaker 5: I just think it's time to do it.
Speaker 6: It just hit me, like word volunt He's like, Okay,
Speaker 6: this is the fear of physician.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then.
Speaker 1: We to produce stuff together around that time.
Speaker 6: Yeahah, the best one that we did, which kind of
Speaker 6: started us doing stuff together because we live so close,
Speaker 6: woud always be like, oh, let's film content.
Speaker 4: And we did reverse cat calling. So jar ches.
Speaker 6: On the work side like a male and I'm going
Speaker 6: past as a female and I'm yelling out to him
Speaker 6: like cat calling and I go, hey, show us your deck,
Speaker 6: and he's like, you can't do that in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5: I'm just like, can I just get on the side.
Speaker 5: I got work to I'm trying to build here, and.
Speaker 2: She's like, get your get your kid off, you know,
Speaker 2: the opposite of when you're on the building side, you know.
Speaker 2: So and that was that went well, and then we
Speaker 2: just we.
Speaker 1: Just started to pick up on TikTok and somebody.
Speaker 2: That TikTok and Instagram and then mate.
Speaker 5: We just started ideoating and then writing and then just
Speaker 5: making more and more skits and it just seemed to work.
Speaker 2: The videos always sort of did pretty well.
Speaker 5: And it was also good to have a creative partner,
Speaker 5: you know, not knowing a lot of people in the game.
Speaker 5: It's always good to work with other people because it
Speaker 5: just brings another element to your content. And it also
Speaker 5: helps that you've got another brain that can come up
Speaker 5: with ideas.
Speaker 1: And does it help you that Lou drags ideas out
Speaker 1: of you?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Because if like I always in business, I always like
Speaker 3: to have a business partner always only because I feel
Speaker 3: like I bounce off from better and on your own.
Speaker 3: It's sort of a bit weirdly for me. Do you
Speaker 3: feel as though Lou brings the let's call radiation out
Speaker 3: of you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty staunch on if I've written a skit,
Speaker 5: I'm pretty staunch on how I perceive it to go.
Speaker 5: So I've got it in my brain and I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is how I want it to go. What I've
Speaker 5: learned is that I'm not always right and that.
Speaker 4: I was about to jump in there and.
Speaker 5: Go because but with everything so I do love taking
Speaker 5: and ideas. I will tell you if I do, I'm like, nah,
Speaker 5: it's not.
Speaker 4: Really what I want, but it does work.
Speaker 5: It's good, it is good, And I'm like, Okay, that's
Speaker 5: actually your lose idea there was better than my original
Speaker 5: one because we can be a.
Speaker 4: Bit more open and be like, oh this is fun
Speaker 4: right around.
Speaker 6: Then you know you're actually having fun doing it, we
Speaker 6: can go, oh, hang on, be way funny if we
Speaker 6: did this, and then it's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: You could you see the position of the audience like
Speaker 3: them to say it's going to be more funny.
Speaker 1: Is it more funny for your point of view?
Speaker 3: Or do you think it's more funny for the audience
Speaker 3: pint of You actually position yourself as an audience.
Speaker 6: Sometimes we honestly just do things for purely because we
Speaker 6: find it entertaining as well, and we're like that people
Speaker 6: don't like it.
Speaker 2: What I don't think you can I think you should
Speaker 2: should position yourself.
Speaker 5: I think you can stray too far away from maybe
Speaker 5: your original idea if you're too concerned on how the
Speaker 5: audience is going to perceive it. It's kind of like
Speaker 5: throwing shit at the wall. I've done videos that I've
Speaker 5: thought were the funniest videos of all time. I'm giggling
Speaker 5: while I'm editing them. I'll put it up and it'll flop.
Speaker 5: I'll do a video that I'm like, I've had it
Speaker 5: sitting in the drafts for six months, and I'll go, fuck,
Speaker 5: i haven't posted it for a while, and I'll post it.
Speaker 2: It'll go gangbusters. It's sort of just you kind of.
Speaker 5: I think my personal opinion is you've sort of just
Speaker 5: if I believe that it's funny, I've just got.
Speaker 2: To put it out there and whatever action of garners
Speaker 2: it garners.
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't work, you put another one.
Speaker 2: Exactly right. You can't take it too personal.
Speaker 1: So nothing. In other words, you can't perfect it.
Speaker 3: It's more and that's a great thing about you know,
Speaker 3: like digital mediums now anyway, you can just keep putting
Speaker 3: it up all the time exactly or as you say,
Speaker 3: just keep throwing shit at the wall, sooner something's going
Speaker 3: to stick.
Speaker 1: And then you go, well that worked.
Speaker 3: So do you then say take what worked and say, well, okay,
Speaker 3: let's do it again, or do you start trying to
Speaker 3: do original shit.
Speaker 5: Both So with the reverse cack call, and I think
Speaker 5: we've done five iterations of it, you know, just in
Speaker 5: different scenarios.
Speaker 2: How do we mold this or retro fitted to you know,
Speaker 2: if it.
Speaker 4: Works and it goes well, then and it's fine.
Speaker 2: The basic concept.
Speaker 4: You know, you do want to keep.
Speaker 6: Doing things like that because some people build their whole
Speaker 6: like social media platform off one small niche you know,
Speaker 6: one tiny video. The guy of the Fedora no longer
Speaker 6: bloke with the Fedora and he just speaks like whatitter early,
Speaker 6: you're wearing my foot or and.
Speaker 4: It's like there's nothing to it.
Speaker 6: But every video I was just then talking like that,
Speaker 6: and he's got like millions of followers can find absolute
Speaker 6: a small niche.
Speaker 5: But I also, without throwing shade, I think there's I
Speaker 5: don't know if there's longevity to that. I think after
Speaker 5: a while people go on him. That's great and he
Speaker 5: should make hay while the sunshines. But it's also I
Speaker 5: think people will just be like, oh, it's another deafly great.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I was just thinking as you're talking.
Speaker 3: Then if I go back ten years ago when we
Speaker 3: did our original podcasts in the podcast should be called
Speaker 3: to be called the Mark Shovel fucking Things, and and
Speaker 3: and now you know we had to evolve.
Speaker 1: So you know what I do today is completely different
Speaker 1: to what I used to do.
Speaker 3: Let's call it a bit more sophisticated, definitely better run
Speaker 3: by virtue of the team.
Speaker 1: And I've got a better team running.
Speaker 3: And if you remember my son Nick, who Nick was
Speaker 3: my producer, you can never produce the podcast in his
Speaker 3: life ever and I just said, mate, you're going to
Speaker 3: become the producer. You're going to produce a show. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's do it. And we used to get a whole
Speaker 3: group of people into the show and we thought it
Speaker 3: were it didn't really work, but it was okay.
Speaker 1: But we have evolved. If you think back to.
Speaker 3: Where you started, you two started, and we mean, well,
Speaker 3: how much of what sort of evolution have you seen
Speaker 3: in your own show content wise structure.
Speaker 6: It's interesting because the other day we listened back on
Speaker 6: an episode to our very first podcast and yes, we
Speaker 6: definitely have evolved, and there's been so many more stories
Speaker 6: and personal jokes and things like that. The first one
Speaker 6: did sound in terms of like vibe and the banter,
Speaker 6: hate that word, but it did sound pretty similar to
Speaker 6: what we have now. Like it's evolved in many different ways.
Speaker 6: How much bigger it is the scale of things we do, but.
Speaker 3: The scaled and it's probably more sophisticated, more polished, probably
Speaker 3: definitely more quality wise.
Speaker 6: Quality differently, but the quality quality sound and sound.
Speaker 1: For sure, that type of stuff, sophisticating that regate.
Speaker 5: We've got a set, we've got to set, a personal set,
Speaker 5: we producer book. It's definitely slicker because we were going
Speaker 5: in there and we we know, we know what we're doing,
Speaker 5: we know what to expect.
Speaker 2: A lot of the earlier episodes were sort of just like.
Speaker 6: It wasn't a job for us then as well, was it.
Speaker 6: We were just like, let's see what happens. And then
Speaker 6: after six months we sort of like, okay, we're making
Speaker 6: money from this, we can make a living from this,
Speaker 6: let's go all over.
Speaker 3: Really, so you got to a point after six months
Speaker 3: you worked at the two if you can make a
Speaker 3: living out of.
Speaker 4: It, Yeah, we were pretty for six months.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was about six months we started making cash,
Speaker 6: which is quite quick for a podcast, and we were
Speaker 6: very lucky that.
Speaker 4: We that's when we decided, I think maybe it was
Speaker 4: six months, maybe even.
Speaker 6: A year, we decided to do two podcasts a week
Speaker 6: because we're originally just doing one. And then we're like, okay,
Speaker 6: this is working, and we started signing on with you know,
Speaker 6: businesses like a cast to bring in revenue, and then
Speaker 6: brands just explain how a cast works. So a cast
Speaker 6: is like posting platform and they bring in sales to us,
Speaker 6: which might be like personalized pictures for we. Meanwhile, for
Speaker 6: brands that actually want to work with us, or it
Speaker 6: might just be ads that are in the background.
Speaker 4: So you've got.
Speaker 5: Yeah, premid post post dynamically inserted ads, you've got.
Speaker 2: They've got their dedicated sales team going out to media
Speaker 2: agencies and pitching us essentially based on or in bounds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, inbounds as well. But it's good to have that.
Speaker 5: So obviously they take their cut because they're out there.
Speaker 1: Generating revenue for us as an agency, which is great.
Speaker 5: But it's just they've been really good because it just
Speaker 5: gives us whilst we can focus on the content in house.
Speaker 5: We've got a dedicated sales team that they're going out
Speaker 5: to all the agencies pitching us, bringing in revenue, and
Speaker 5: it actually, you know, I found that agencies they want
Speaker 5: to have fun with podcasts because it is a fun meetum,
Speaker 5: so we sort of get we get pretty good briefs,
Speaker 5: you know, and a lot of it is pretty simple
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 6: Some of it might just be live read. Some of
Speaker 6: it might include a video or us going.
Speaker 3: How do you feel they're doing that stuff? So you
Speaker 3: poked your editorial pokes that into the into the podcast somewhere,
Speaker 3: but you've got to do it off.
Speaker 2: You do it.
Speaker 3: Do you do a show or off show off shot,
Speaker 3: we'll voice it off.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? Like, do you think
Speaker 1: it's because we do it here too?
Speaker 3: And I love our advertisers, but do you some of
Speaker 3: the things that sort of if I was listening to
Speaker 3: that's a bit weird.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, But I think once you recognize that it comes
Speaker 5: with the territory, yeah, you just do it. And look,
Speaker 5: you know, our position is we would prefer to make
Speaker 5: them as fun as as possible. Well, you understand that
Speaker 5: brands have guidelines and that they've also got a certain
Speaker 5: way they want to position themselves in the market.
Speaker 2: So if they want to dedicate.
Speaker 5: And read of us just going well, bloody Clorox, bloody
Speaker 5: good sponges, Yeah and nine five for a pack of
Speaker 5: three if they.
Speaker 1: Want that, fine, any color you want, any color you want.
Speaker 5: But we would obviously prefer to add lib and have
Speaker 5: fun with guys the audience.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 5: I think the best example of branded content in the
Speaker 5: podcasting game that I've heard is Hamish and Andy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it's so seamless you barely even.
Speaker 3: Know that it's because the advertisers trust them exactly implicitly
Speaker 3: pros and they don't trust me obviously, but because they
Speaker 3: give me the script and I got I actually actually
Speaker 3: think the same as you. I think, you know what,
Speaker 3: because I don't advertise anything I don't like so I
Speaker 3: and or particularly a couple of other pods.
Speaker 1: So I do like the Pro one HUNDREDD.
Speaker 3: I only talk about things that I've actually seen, and
Speaker 3: I'm prepared to endorse in terms of health and h
Speaker 3: I thought it was anything with myself this morning. I
Speaker 3: would prefer just to say what I think about it.
Speaker 3: I've been using this pro months. It's bloody great. It
Speaker 3: gives me this, that and the other end. You can
Speaker 3: buy it wherever. I'd rather do that because I feel.
Speaker 1: Like he's more genuine.
Speaker 3: But the agency sort of don't trust me enough yet
Speaker 3: to do that. But I think my audience would like
Speaker 3: it better too, Like but Hamish like hello, you know.
Speaker 1: They're probably advertising geniuses.
Speaker 3: If they weren't doing what they do, they'd own a
Speaker 3: biggest advertising Australia and everybody saying, will create me an ad?
Speaker 6: You know Hamish and the Hubble Scott they do that
Speaker 6: that far into his career. You know, he's like walking
Speaker 6: around like this, do you ever.
Speaker 1: Think do you have aspirations like we're gonna end up?
Speaker 1: Do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? For sure? I mean considering we're finder for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I do you guys need therapy like mentoring
Speaker 3: therapy as a business offering it. It could be a
Speaker 3: prize coming up. What do you charge for you for
Speaker 3: you because you gave me, you gave me content for
Speaker 3: free before.
Speaker 4: But I'll just jump along. I'll just tag on onto
Speaker 4: that one. Thanks guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I definitely always have like sounds a bit
Speaker 6: Criends like my mum and dad have always been like
Speaker 6: to me or we knew that you were going to
Speaker 6: be doing something, you know, radio, TV or whatever, because
Speaker 6: I've always been loud. I've always done speech and drama
Speaker 6: and all that. So since I was like literally twelve,
Speaker 6: I always said, oh I want my own radio show.
Speaker 4: I want my own radio show.
Speaker 6: So it is a crazy moment to know that I
Speaker 6: was producing radio and then lift did the podcast and
Speaker 6: now coming back to radio doing it again. And then
Speaker 6: obviously we've always said we'd love to do TV, like,
Speaker 6: you know, like a funge traveling kind of show or something.
Speaker 3: Like that'd be cool. Like, so we're going to send
Speaker 3: you Ja Kazikstan, and we would like you. We're going
Speaker 3: to send a crew with you. You're going to stay,
Speaker 3: You're going to fly overrom business class and you're going
Speaker 3: to stay in these hotels. Is all planned out for you,
Speaker 3: and you're just going to walk around looking at the
Speaker 3: beautiful gorges and mountains and shit like that, neat food
Speaker 3: and give us commentary.
Speaker 6: Ye mate, the best ing ding ding like that best.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll ever get there?
Speaker 4: I hope so, I really do.
Speaker 6: And I think it's exciting the path that we're on,
Speaker 6: like it is.
Speaker 4: We always we we.
Speaker 6: We like, we never really talk that serials. We're business partners,
Speaker 6: but we often call each other and we'll be fifteen
Speaker 6: minutes talking gibberish or weird things to each other, and
Speaker 6: then we'll have random combos each week, probably twenty minutes.
Speaker 6: We were serious, but since this radio things come up.
Speaker 6: I think we had a combo for like an hour
Speaker 6: the other day.
Speaker 4: We were just talking.
Speaker 6: About what was going on, how proud we are of
Speaker 6: each other, it's crazy, we can't believe it.
Speaker 4: And then we always hang up the phone just like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that was weird. We was too serious.
Speaker 2: Because it's just always, but it might look it's lou Is.
Speaker 5: Very Lo's much more organized than myself. And she was
Speaker 5: spinning that yarn yesterday like her mum. You were looking
Speaker 5: at goals that you and your mother had set years ago,
Speaker 5: and she was like, you know, I've actually superseded those
Speaker 5: goals by quite a bit, and that like that was
Speaker 5: a crazy thing for you. I'm not like I've got aspirations.
Speaker 5: I'm not really great at goal setting. I'm very much
Speaker 5: I've given up on New Year's resolutions because I go, right, mate,
Speaker 5: this is what I'm doing, and.
Speaker 2: Then a week in I'm off of the fairies.
Speaker 5: I basically face what's in front of me, and I
Speaker 5: find it difficult to pursue it.
Speaker 2: I just play the cards at a delt.
Speaker 5: To me, that's how I've operated my whole life, and
Speaker 5: I find it difficult to focus on future things.
Speaker 2: Example, at UNI, I never ever did an assessment, not
Speaker 2: the night before you did.
Speaker 1: You're a last minute ago.
Speaker 5: Very much so, and I feel like I operate my
Speaker 5: best when there's pressure on if it's last minute.
Speaker 1: It's interesting people like that. Do do you think that
Speaker 1: you have a view you that? I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a conscious thing.
Speaker 3: But do you take the view that I've just waste
Speaker 3: my time, so spending a whole lot of time prepping
Speaker 3: for this, and do take two weeks to do it
Speaker 3: over two week period when.
Speaker 1: I can know I can get done the night before.
Speaker 1: So is it a time wasting thing?
Speaker 2: For I think? I struggle. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: There's some disconnection in my brain that if it's ready
Speaker 5: in two weeks, I'm like two weeks your beauty.
Speaker 2: I've used to try to sit down and start writing it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, a fact, got to do this the night before.
Speaker 3: But so you respond to pressure, then yeah, so I
Speaker 3: got I got to get in by tomorrow. There's a deadline.
Speaker 3: And that's when you bring the best out of you,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. You're best on the ropes, so to speak.
Speaker 3: You know every time I'll respond, I can. I'm account
Speaker 3: of punches, your account of punch.
Speaker 2: Yes, I find it. I actually struggle to be proactive to.
Speaker 1: Get on the front foot. I really struggle, Lou You
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 6: Nah two an extent, like I know what's in front
Speaker 6: of me, and I know, okay, I've got to do this,
Speaker 6: and then blah blah, blah, and I work well, I
Speaker 6: und appreciate, but I also like to know what's a
Speaker 6: hit and have things planned out.
Speaker 4: And I'm definitely a lot more organized.
Speaker 3: Because I often said when the best partnerships, I mean,
Speaker 3: I use a pretty sort of common sort of description,
Speaker 3: but I say the best partnerships is where one party
Speaker 3: cuts in the other party sows because because the one
Speaker 3: party cuts is hopeless that something the one party is good.
Speaker 3: Something's hopeless at cutting, and you get the best suit
Speaker 3: that wayang perfect. And so I'm trying to I'm trying
Speaker 3: to sort of work out where each one of you fit.
Speaker 3: Not that's it's important to put people into a box,
Speaker 3: but I tend to do that. I tend to classify things.
Speaker 3: I have to compartmentalize everything. Why nothing bothers me because
Speaker 3: I say, something can be really shit happening to me
Speaker 3: five minutes ago, But when I started this podcast, that's
Speaker 3: five minutes ago.
Speaker 1: I do that, do with that later, and I can
Speaker 1: just come straight into this.
Speaker 3: It takes me a few minutes to get into it,
Speaker 3: but I'm in it knowing that I'll stop in an
Speaker 3: hour or so and I go.
Speaker 1: Back to the other thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I wonder with the people in the media
Speaker 3: like us.
Speaker 1: I wonder for all like that because.
Speaker 3: Because I mean, otherwise, if someone's really pissing you off,
Speaker 3: you know, like in your life, you know, the taxman's
Speaker 3: driving mental Well, you earn so much money.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys, that's what I'm here and.
Speaker 7: Contracts anyway, I will blush anyway.
Speaker 3: So but I wonder, I wonder whether or not that's
Speaker 3: sort of the process of people in media because and
Speaker 3: because generally speaking of people I know are not like,
Speaker 3: not great planners, like Julie Morris is terrible, but she's
Speaker 3: really good on her feet and will respond to the
Speaker 3: moment and then she'll go back to her malaise after
Speaker 3: it and feel for herself and whatever.
Speaker 1: She was feeling sorry for. Is it performance?
Speaker 6: Well, it's not like there is a slight Obviously, you're
Speaker 6: a bit more of like a heightened version of yourself
Speaker 6: because you kind of have to be. You're there to
Speaker 6: make people laugh and be entertaining. But I think it's yeah,
Speaker 6: that like putting beside whatever's.
Speaker 4: Going on in your world.
Speaker 6: Like we've had times where there's been shit going on
Speaker 6: our lives and we've had to go Okay, we've got
Speaker 6: podcasts to do here, We've got the shoot here.
Speaker 4: You know, you just have to get it done.
Speaker 6: And it's it would be the same as if someone
Speaker 6: was an accountant and they've got to go on to
Speaker 6: work do these meetings.
Speaker 4: It's just like.
Speaker 5: But even even with for me personally, even when I've
Speaker 5: had shit going on in my life that's disastrous, and
Speaker 5: then I've come into the podcast.
Speaker 2: When I'm in the podcast, I'm the dead same as you.
Speaker 5: I'm genuinely that's out of my brain in that moment
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 7: Podcast, in the movies exactly right. So I'm having fake escape, yeah,
Speaker 7: the smiles and laughs and never fake. Yeah, even though
Speaker 7: i might have this going on on the outside, I'll
Speaker 7: deal with that when I'm back.
Speaker 2: In my car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, driving home in the podcast is like a relief. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if I've got something else going on in my life. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: the guys know. I mean, I feel sorry for my
Speaker 3: production team because, like I walk in here like a
Speaker 3: fucking bear, you cranky because something's annoying in my main business,
Speaker 3: you know whatever, because all I all, I never doing
Speaker 3: the main business putting bush fires out, Like when you've
Speaker 3: got a business with a couple of thousand people, and
Speaker 3: like you're not really doing anything strategic or exciting. You're
Speaker 3: basically dealing with problems all day long, every day. And
Speaker 3: I walk in here and I'm never in the mood.
Speaker 3: I just never in the mood. But lucky, I'll get good, yes,
Speaker 3: But literally, the moment I start engaging my life changes.
Speaker 4: You forget all about it.
Speaker 1: I forget about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like I've been given a reprieve and that
Speaker 3: energizes me, particularly if the opposite side, you guys, energize
Speaker 3: as well. And it's we're so fucking lucky, so lucky,
Speaker 3: oh God, and we make money out of it.
Speaker 1: You know, and it doesn't matter how much money, it's
Speaker 1: just gold, mate.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I I sort of pinched myself every day a lot
Speaker 5: of the time because this happened relatively later in life.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm fucking five years older than you are. Yes,
Speaker 2: you're four or five years older than you.
Speaker 5: I thirty five, So this sort of happened to me
Speaker 5: in my thirties. So I'd done I'd worked on farms,
Speaker 5: I'd worked in dairies, I'd labored, I'd worked in media.
Speaker 5: You know, I'd done a heap of jobs. You know,
Speaker 5: I was a fucking logistics manager for a furniture company
Speaker 5: for two and a half years.
Speaker 2: I've done jobs.
Speaker 5: So I'm lucky in the sense that it's generated perspective
Speaker 5: for me as to how lucky I.
Speaker 4: Am to be able to do this crazy.
Speaker 5: And sometimes I'll get in a funk in the morning
Speaker 5: and I'll be like, I'll just be being a silk.
Speaker 2: I'll just wake up out of bed and I'm sucking
Speaker 2: little grubby gus yeah, little grubby grubby house.
Speaker 5: And it will take because you were the bed. Well,
Speaker 5: actually that's my favorite part of the night.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of that.
Speaker 5: But it you know, and then my wife or you know,
Speaker 5: our mate will generate perspective.
Speaker 2: She's like, look at this, look at.
Speaker 5: You two years ago when when I first moved back
Speaker 5: to Sydney and we're doing skits and stuff. I first
Speaker 5: started in your forty round a year in media and
Speaker 5: I was like, if I know, I can live off
Speaker 5: that money. So I'm like, if I can make forty
Speaker 5: round a year off fucking making doing videos, I'll quit,
Speaker 5: you know, I'll do that. And then it's like you
Speaker 5: get to a point where you're you know, you're making.
Speaker 2: More money than you thought you would.
Speaker 5: It is wild and you get to sit down with
Speaker 5: one of your best friends and laugh and joke, and
Speaker 5: then you're getting a radio show and then you're like,
Speaker 5: we're sitting here talking to you. This is this is
Speaker 5: work for us, but it's not.
Speaker 1: But that's why the podcasts become likable. Your podcast, my podcast, because.
Speaker 3: Actually it's we're not in here working, we're actually having
Speaker 3: a chat in a mag and people love that shit
Speaker 3: because as they're like standing next to us in the
Speaker 3: pub and it's like they're over listening. Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 3: vicariously living in this little life here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel like you're friends with the people you're
Speaker 4: listening to.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, because you're honest. Yeah, So which one of
Speaker 3: you hauls the other one into shape? So what are
Speaker 3: the tell signs that?
Speaker 4: No, it's how long we got? Do you want me
Speaker 4: to keep going rattling them off?
Speaker 1: For give me wonder three?
Speaker 6: No, it's just I am just good at being like, okay, mate,
Speaker 6: we've got this, this, this, and this to do. I
Speaker 6: need you to do this, I'm going to do these
Speaker 6: or like I'm just I can delegate to jarch well
Speaker 6: and he doesn't take it in a way of.
Speaker 1: Being like lose bottom around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just knows. He just goes yep, sweep, She's
Speaker 4: got that under control. I'm going to do that, and
Speaker 4: we we work that way.
Speaker 3: So how does this and women? Well, how do you
Speaker 3: structure the show or is it unstructured?
Speaker 4: So we have set segments that we do.
Speaker 6: So we have like you know, like games and those
Speaker 6: kind of things that we know that rotate every week,
Speaker 6: and we've got probably now i'd say twelve for fourteen
Speaker 6: different games that kind of rotate, and then we're just
Speaker 6: for me, I came from that radio background, so I
Speaker 6: was always a producer, so to me, I did have
Speaker 6: I had that brain of like, oh that's content, like
Speaker 6: small little things that happened in your brain. And Charch
Speaker 6: is amazing at that too, So things that happened sorry
Speaker 6: in your life. You go, Okay, that's great, I'm going
Speaker 6: to write that down for the podcast. And then we
Speaker 6: often find we'll be like, okay, two segments and the hotline,
Speaker 6: which is where people call up the podcast, and then
Speaker 6: we'll talk for like forty minutes and we'll go, oh,
Speaker 6: that's one done, you know, because we can literally take
Speaker 6: the smallest topic and go on twelve tandas and we'll go,
Speaker 6: oh cool, we've been talking about socks for thirty four minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you could explain the structure of the show
Speaker 3: to you audis now, so like we mean, we mean,
Speaker 3: well's structure like, and what are you ex what are
Speaker 3: people that are audience expecting to get out of it
Speaker 3: that are doing really well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when we came into this, I just found that.
Speaker 5: In the world of social media, it's a relatively new
Speaker 5: world and I think, you know, it's I think it's.
Speaker 2: Generated an atmosphere of division. It can be very divisive
Speaker 2: and polarizing, and.
Speaker 5: You know, there seems to be this necessity that if
Speaker 5: you've you know, you're on social media and you're doing
Speaker 5: something that it's it's you know, your job to provide
Speaker 5: people with your political opinions. You know where you sit
Speaker 5: on this side of the fence, that side of the fence.
Speaker 5: And I just did the lower I'm like, hey, everyone
Speaker 5: else is doing that. Everyone's doing that. You get fifty
Speaker 5: thousand followers and now suddenly I know, you know how
Speaker 5: you're voting and you know how you're operating, and you
Speaker 5: expect the same from us. And I'm like, I feel
Speaker 5: like there's there's clutter in the market and if we
Speaker 5: can just try and make people laugh for forty five
Speaker 5: minutes to an hour, that's our job. That's that's what
Speaker 5: we do. We just we just stick to trying to
Speaker 5: make people laugh. So the structure of the podcast is
Speaker 5: we'll get in there and we'll start yearning. We might play,
Speaker 5: you know, one of our games. We'll have prep segments.
Speaker 5: I've written a fucking soap opera called Send Read a
Speaker 5: Street for the podcast that.
Speaker 2: We do every few a few weeks. Lou has lu.
Speaker 5: Lugo surfing, so she's surfed the internet find sort of
Speaker 5: off center stories that will then discuss.
Speaker 6: Phinge notes, so play from the dating app like voice
Speaker 6: notes from.
Speaker 5: From guys, yeah, trying to because then their best self
Speaker 5: to a prospective partner. And we just we just want
Speaker 5: to have fun with it. We just want people laugh
Speaker 5: and to be honest, mate. The feedback that I've got
Speaker 5: out in the pubs and when I meet people is
Speaker 5: that of like they're like, oh, it's a bit refreshing
Speaker 5: just to have to not have to hear about fucking politics.
Speaker 4: Is it takes them away from you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, Ukraine, Russia, like, come on, whilst the need
Speaker 1: to break.
Speaker 5: They're important issues, you know, but that's not in our wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: We're also fucking idiots.
Speaker 5: Mark and our opinions, well, come on, Bud.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how much value in quick capitulation help.
Speaker 4: Oh, I trust me, I am.
Speaker 6: But I think people also find it's like an escape
Speaker 6: from the reality. Amount of calls we get people going,
Speaker 6: I'm going through a really rough time. You guys make
Speaker 6: me laugh for an hour, and it's taking me away
Speaker 6: from our reality, Like we stay here. Yeah, we take
Speaker 6: ourselves away from our reality of stuff that's going on
Speaker 6: in our real lives. We're doing that for the listeners as.
Speaker 3: Well, and maybe also and when they when that happens
Speaker 3: in that context, it makes me feel so privileged to
Speaker 3: be in this world too, because those people don't have
Speaker 3: that world. They have to tune into somewhere else and
Speaker 3: they have to sort of vicariously be part of a
Speaker 3: league exactly setting in whereas we're participant. I actually see
Speaker 3: like it's this sounds really connocenting like a social service
Speaker 3: lead to some people, it's a business with us, but
Speaker 3: we are providing a service.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: We don't get in radio or television. It's all too
Speaker 3: fucking serious. It's all broken up in ads. You know,
Speaker 3: three minutes gets take an ad.
Speaker 4: Will have to stop swearing.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can swear, you get right? Do you swear
Speaker 1: your shirt?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, big little potty mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've been a bad influence.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. My mom calls me and she goes,
Speaker 4: is rubbing off on you? She says, he.
Speaker 2: Literally just make that very clear as in the swearing.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, thank you, the appropriate watching.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: My mom's always like, you're swearing too much, Louisa, And
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, fuck, can't stop it now?
Speaker 1: Call then you you're in trouble.
Speaker 6: And my dad Franco listens when he mows the lawns
Speaker 6: and he'll be like.
Speaker 1: A frank careful punches funny my dad.
Speaker 6: Like when I was growing up, it was like the
Speaker 6: big tough Italian you know everyone, well don't mister Louis
Speaker 6: dad Franco. And then now you've met him, he's like
Speaker 6: the sweetest like angel you've ever met. It's like he
Speaker 6: goes like more quiet and you know, like calm. As
Speaker 6: the older he gets.
Speaker 3: That's that's what happens to it. We will become more mellow,
Speaker 3: let's just talk about the radio show.
Speaker 1: Come on. So that's pretty cool. So when to kickoff?
Speaker 4: Tuesday?
Speaker 1: Tuesday next week? Okay, ye, time of days are.
Speaker 4: On two till four pm.
Speaker 3: Nation says syndicated across the joint.
Speaker 4: Some characters calling from the farming areas.
Speaker 1: I think that's good.
Speaker 2: Do you want?
Speaker 3: And this is with this south across the stereo, so
Speaker 3: it's on the triple M triple trand and who you're
Speaker 3: coming off the back of?
Speaker 4: So who's before it will be daytime and out it's
Speaker 4: a lockey? Yeah Pringle?
Speaker 6: Who's he will be our like announcer, our anchor, who
Speaker 6: do all the buttons and talk?
Speaker 4: And then after us is Heindy Milly.
Speaker 6: And mah yeah, say that's a footy Yeah, that's in
Speaker 6: Sydney and the Melbourne is obviously a f L Billy
Speaker 6: Brown lesson.
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, so you guys would be the drive time
Speaker 3: and note what is that lifetime?
Speaker 4: It's kind of a.
Speaker 6: New slot for them because I think before us was
Speaker 6: Mary Marty she Go.
Speaker 1: They were doing the show. Yeah yeah, and then.
Speaker 6: Obviously he ran into a lot of trouble and so
Speaker 6: they kind of created the show for us.
Speaker 1: So we were kind of like, how does that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff happened?
Speaker 6: Like we've got an amazing manager Nick.
Speaker 2: You well, mate, it literally was, you know, it was
Speaker 2: pretty crazy. It was a bit of a whirlwind.
Speaker 4: It was like three weeks. I just moved to Melbourne.
Speaker 6: She just my partner moves lives there, so I was
Speaker 6: flying back for the podcast and then it was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 6: do you got to show on Triple IM And I
Speaker 6: obviously you know career, Yeah, cool, I just moved back
Speaker 6: from Melbourne to Sydney.
Speaker 5: But it was fair ink and we went into one meeting,
Speaker 5: you know, and I thought this would be a meeting
Speaker 5: just to suss out them, suss out us.
Speaker 4: And were you skeptical as well?
Speaker 2: I was, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So then after that meeting, Jar was like.
Speaker 2: Well, I just want to dine out the Kinks. I
Speaker 2: want to know whether much it can be a real money.
Speaker 5: Well I was just sort of look, I understand the
Speaker 5: commercial radio world, and I understand that our podcast, you know,
Speaker 5: it's pretty rogue. It can be pretty rogue at times,
Speaker 5: and there's a disconnect there where it was you.
Speaker 1: Know, there's a switch though they can actually turn out
Speaker 1: the swear.
Speaker 2: Off correct, but I was.
Speaker 5: My concern was we're now joining your network and will
Speaker 5: be representatives of your network, and you've got guidelines, and
Speaker 5: the podcast a lot of the time falls outside of
Speaker 5: the guidelines. I need to know that us doing the
Speaker 5: radio show won't get impede on fundamentally what our podcast
Speaker 5: is so and what it has been about and how
Speaker 5: we've cultivated this audience. I need to know that you
Speaker 5: won't tell me, hey, listen to a segment on the
Speaker 5: podcast not really doesn't fit in with Triple M.
Speaker 2: But they're not.
Speaker 3: They're not sort ofmingled. They're not you making sure you're
Speaker 3: not going to go to a listener or anything like that.
Speaker 5: You know, where where it was separate, podcast is separate.
Speaker 3: So so when you do a negotiation with who origin
Speaker 3: negotiating there with fordum, does do you sort of sort
Speaker 3: of want to stay pure in race of your podcast?
Speaker 1: You want to keep your pod pure to your own theme?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And they've been they've been so clear on that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: has been amazing. They've been like, your podcast, you do
Speaker 6: what you're doing with that, never change anything. And they
Speaker 6: pretty much said the radio show is just you guys
Speaker 6: talking just like you do on the podcast.
Speaker 4: But different obviously topics and no swearing and just go
Speaker 4: for it. They haven't been like pull yourselves in line
Speaker 4: or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So what we get there, we get a producer and
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 6: That we've got an EP and assistant producer, digital producer,
Speaker 6: audio producer and anchors.
Speaker 3: So you're not playing with any of the knobs. Oh no, Christ,
Speaker 3: will you be doing Daniel and George Street? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What's where? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So so you'll be on the other side of the thing,
Speaker 3: and and what are you going to do for sellow?
Speaker 1: You sort of got nervous.
Speaker 6: Two hours we thought that and then we did it
Speaker 6: like a demo show because we obviously we talk all
Speaker 6: the time, but it's so different because's like furmanute voice
Speaker 6: breaks to two songs ads, you know. So we did
Speaker 6: a demo and the other was Monday, and it was
Speaker 6: actually it whipped very well. I felt easy, way quicker.
Speaker 2: It went like that, should myself come Tuesday?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Mate?
Speaker 6: Before our live shows, he was sculling whiskey, like shaking,
Speaker 6: so nervous to go on stage.
Speaker 4: I'm dancing around.
Speaker 5: The four opposites in that sense, and that's I needed that.
Speaker 5: This is where this there's a bit of a dichotomy.
Speaker 5: But where we work public speaking, mate, Yeah, going out
Speaker 5: on staff, I get tremendously nervous before you get on,
Speaker 5: Before I get on, he's amazing.
Speaker 6: But then arch is good for me if like I've reckon,
Speaker 6: I've got pretty tough skin. But there are obviously times
Speaker 6: where comments can get to you, you know, online and
Speaker 6: charges pretty good for me, you know, just going mate,
Speaker 6: fuck what they think pretty much, you know who you are,
Speaker 6: blah blah blah and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Process, Yeah, which is definitely why we work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So for the Telly for the radio show, should
Speaker 3: say Telly Shows coming for the radio show? Do they
Speaker 3: sort of set you with some theme so they sort
Speaker 3: of say, listen, guys, say we've got some breaking news.
Speaker 3: We're talking about something. You have to talk about these
Speaker 3: things we have to it's at a discretion.
Speaker 5: I suppose they'll come with basically we decided that, like
Speaker 5: the same thing, let's just throw shit at a wall.
Speaker 5: They'll provide us with a heap of stories, will come
Speaker 5: with our own stuff, and then we'll sort of just
Speaker 5: filter out the best, the best ones what we want
Speaker 5: and then that's the show for that day, and.
Speaker 6: We'll do segments and stuff like we do on podcast
Speaker 6: with radio.
Speaker 2: It's got a great radio brain.
Speaker 5: She came into the first meeting that we had in
Speaker 5: the station and she's like, hey, guys, I've written some
Speaker 5: ideas down.
Speaker 2: She had about but they're all bangers.
Speaker 1: Nice brain for example, like what do you mean they're
Speaker 1: all bangers?
Speaker 2: Give me too?
Speaker 4: My favorite one, the radio one. We don't want to
Speaker 4: give things away though you give an example.
Speaker 1: What do you mean though, don't give Monday Monday.
Speaker 6: Like for example, like what we do on the podcast,
Speaker 6: so so like Lulugos surfing the Hinge notes those kind
Speaker 6: of ideas for me is a nice creative out it
Speaker 6: because I was always producing quick I'll tell you that
Speaker 6: one because we probably will play on Tuesday.
Speaker 4: But there's been ones. This doesn't do it justice the
Speaker 4: ideas and come up with this is so ship that
Speaker 4: it's okay.
Speaker 6: So it's pretty much listeners call up and they pretend
Speaker 6: to be an animal. So they're going like and then
Speaker 6: charge and I are guessing what animal they are.
Speaker 4: That's what it was, but it's so stupid that it
Speaker 4: works for us. And so that's like one of them.
Speaker 6: Then there's another one which will do later down the show,
Speaker 6: but it's kind of like a dating show. A few
Speaker 6: other things to do with different.
Speaker 1: That part's good. Gives you plenty to run off just
Speaker 1: any direction you want.
Speaker 2: I don't love to just keep going exactly right.
Speaker 4: We'll meet some characters to bring.
Speaker 1: People in, mate, we will, we will.
Speaker 5: It won't be a guest heavy show, right, it will
Speaker 5: be guests. I think that we that we were interested.
Speaker 5: I think because you know there's plenty of.
Speaker 1: The woman to come to about the cornment. No, no,
Speaker 1: you want you in about the economy.
Speaker 4: Please?
Speaker 2: You know what we actually do.
Speaker 4: Have a learning.
Speaker 2: This is ideation, mate, This is where it came.
Speaker 1: Nick Forden is my manager.
Speaker 2: Next in the mirror.
Speaker 1: It gets you a good fight away. He'll tell us
Speaker 1: that he can.
Speaker 2: Know.
Speaker 3: He wants you to say, look, I'm conflicted. He'll say, no, no,
Speaker 3: I can manage conflict.
Speaker 1: Channel conflict.
Speaker 4: Don't worry.
Speaker 2: I can do it.
Speaker 1: And and he'll get a fee out of it from.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 1: Get a fee from you and a fee from me.
Speaker 1: How excited are you?
Speaker 2: Very made? To be honest, it's look it was it was.
Speaker 2: I had a tangible.
Speaker 5: Excitement when I was in there doing the demo show
Speaker 5: because I did start. I got an internship and unpaid
Speaker 5: internship at today f M. When I was coming out
Speaker 5: of Uni. I had to do it to graduate my course.
Speaker 5: They offered me a job. I was like, you beauty
Speaker 5: job out of UNI and I was sitting there as
Speaker 5: a sales coordinator looking through the glass, just going, how
Speaker 5: fucking good is that?
Speaker 1: You know, I'd want to be inside.
Speaker 4: I was like, what a cool job inside that box?
Speaker 2: Because it is she gets it, this is when this
Speaker 2: is what happens podcast.
Speaker 3: That next week on Tuesday. You have to fucking control
Speaker 3: that stuff. Okay, hopefully I'm not the only one who.
Speaker 4: Got climbing inside.
Speaker 2: Sorry March, she's a mongrel. But it's just a mongrel, mate.
Speaker 1: That's a glass box.
Speaker 2: And so it was.
Speaker 5: I just remember thinking, this is that would be? How
Speaker 5: cool would that job be? You know, it just looks
Speaker 5: great and.
Speaker 4: Little in Acne.
Speaker 5: I was twenty two done on the acne. You had gone,
Speaker 5: but it was so to be to be there, and
Speaker 5: I've zig.
Speaker 2: Zagged my way to that point.
Speaker 5: Really, it's been a fucking bit of a rollercoaster, but
Speaker 5: it's very We're pumped, mate, like I'm so excited.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 6: Your first job was at c A because my wars
Speaker 6: as well. Obviously I worked in radio and New Zealand,
Speaker 6: but my first job moving over.
Speaker 2: To Australia was over just after I.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were like sighting doors you did, right phrase,
Speaker 6: he leaft c A, then I came and then he
Speaker 6: leaft over and then I smell.
Speaker 8: So when when you when when you sort of sort
Speaker 8: of achieve your dreams and you sort of in this
Speaker 8: position like it's great to be there and you can
Speaker 8: sort of I started there and now I ended up
Speaker 8: there with my own radio show, and you both had
Speaker 8: history with the radio, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Do you think you saw Okay, now I got another ambition.
Speaker 3: May to be honest, Hamish and Andy like you sort
Speaker 3: of think, yeah, definitely possible.
Speaker 6: I want to ride out the next couple of months
Speaker 6: and you know, really find our feet with it because
Speaker 6: it will be different when be doing radio and podcasting,
Speaker 6: and I'm sure there'll be lots of opportunities that come.
Speaker 6: But I think the NIXT thing we would love to
Speaker 6: do TV like it Just that seems like the NIXT progression.
Speaker 3: Yourself, and I'm getting up over you, but do you
Speaker 3: think that yourself? That because if think this myself is
Speaker 3: that I did podcasting because podcasting is pretty much a
Speaker 3: rebellion against radio. And now I'm doing radio. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: mind getting into television. But actual fact, a lot of
Speaker 3: people sort of say television is dead. Yeah, but you're
Speaker 3: sort of going in the full so going back into
Speaker 3: all the old school stuff because actually there's still nothing
Speaker 3: bigger than television.
Speaker 4: Yeah, streaming platforms now like you think of.
Speaker 1: It, television, it's still on TV. It's still in the
Speaker 1: box in the un might be on your might be
Speaker 1: on your on your screen, but you have to it.
Speaker 3: It's sort of like you're doing. Podcasting is a modern
Speaker 3: version of what radio doesn't do. You're going and now
Speaker 3: you're you're doing podcasting at radio. And if you can
Speaker 3: know a TV you've actually got all three platforms, that
Speaker 3: would be like it's a dream inside.
Speaker 4: That would be incredible.
Speaker 2: It's be incredible.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think, yeah, I think I've certain I've
Speaker 5: certainly got aspirations.
Speaker 2: I like to write.
Speaker 5: So I've I've written a TV show and I'm just
Speaker 5: have already I've written the pilot episode and halfway through
Speaker 5: the second. And I like to sit down and and
Speaker 5: I really enjoy that an aspiration of mine is to
Speaker 5: pitch that, get that made. But for now, so that's
Speaker 5: that's down the track for me. I'm very much right
Speaker 5: the wave. You know, we're in in an industry of
Speaker 5: rug pools, whereas it can be over like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm written, but that is also exciting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you be canceled?
Speaker 5: Well, there's the excitement of to be not canceled, canceled,
Speaker 5: but it's exciting, like there's an exciting element to it
Speaker 5: that it's fucking man, ride the wave.
Speaker 4: Now any moment.
Speaker 2: It's like life. It's it could be over, it could
Speaker 2: be over.
Speaker 3: Both basically really positive, like you're both positive sort of Yea,
Speaker 3: everything's harful.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 4: You've got to be, especially in this industry, like it's
Speaker 4: so up and down.
Speaker 1: Do they stream any just tripling streaming of it?
Speaker 6: That stuff live on on YouTuber and like that they'll do.
Speaker 6: It'll be live on the website.
Speaker 2: How I look to Lou every time there's a serious question.
Speaker 5: Like that, who's who's the show before you?
Speaker 1: And she gave me the.
Speaker 4: Very depressed thank you guys.
Speaker 6: Sorry, So there will be it'll be on the like
Speaker 6: live streaming website. Thanks Jack, And so you can just
Speaker 6: click play from where we are and then there'll also
Speaker 6: be the catch up show on all podcasting platforms, so
Speaker 6: that will just be the triple M show, like the
Speaker 6: four minute breaks cut into one like you know, twenty
Speaker 6: thirty minute show like.
Speaker 3: You should a lot of time radio for you mate.
Speaker 2: This is why I've got a fucking nails and.
Speaker 3: By the way, you scratch your balls or pick you know,
Speaker 3: because it's going to be yeah, okay, and I'm going
Speaker 3: to grab hold of my productions. Will grab hold of
Speaker 3: it next week when we put your show up and
Speaker 3: promo streets. You can take the boy out of the streets.
Speaker 3: You can't take whatever.
Speaker 1: Still doing the same ship, guys, I really appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on.
Speaker 3: Thanks it's been awesome and really funny, and thanks for
Speaker 3: both helping me live my best life today and good
Speaker 3: luck next week.
Speaker 1: Are you going to kill it?
Speaker 4: You're going to kill very excited. Thank you for having
Speaker 4: so excited.
Speaker 2: Good to us. So we are and you know us
Speaker 2: with Streets of Sydney.
Speaker 5: I love that you are all about people having a
Speaker 5: crack and when we're doing that Streets of Sydney stuff,
Speaker 5: we were just like permused that you would even.
Speaker 2: Say what was the guy's name? What do you call it?
Speaker 2: Run Markers?
Speaker 1: Yes, the one who's on the pokem machine.
Speaker 4: I need to watch.
Speaker 3: You've got to see running Markers Like he's a little Greek,
Speaker 3: but he's unbelievably.
Speaker 1: He just takes the piss out of.
Speaker 3: The you know, the typical wogan. I can say aign one,
Speaker 3: but put it on the poking machines because he's a
Speaker 3: poker machine expert.
Speaker 1: Yes, he knows that it can be.
Speaker 4: I'm watching it tonight.
Speaker 5: And that's why I was called more Chili's Productions, because
Speaker 5: the Pokey gave us the funds to be able.
Speaker 2: To start More Chili.
Speaker 1: You know that's still a very popular game.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: Because I'm on the board and I was we'll walk around,
Speaker 3: they will take the gaming manager where he was taking
Speaker 3: the board through everyone showing us all stuff and more
Speaker 3: Chilis is still.
Speaker 1: One of the big games and everyone loves that.
Speaker 2: Mane I gave it to hit the other day. Did
Speaker 2: you just nostalgic purposes? Only?
Speaker 1: Thanks much, guys, Thank you, thank you.