1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to our l three sixty. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: I believe from every angle, brought to you by NIV 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: and Tonight's are joining me. Sorry, Gordon tallis poor Kroy 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: and Dave rick Yell and Tonight's tel top story. Brendan 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: Smith has been dropped after being sanctioned by the Roosters 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: for missing a team review. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: Boys, this is big news, Gordy. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: It is big news, especially where the Roosters are in 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: the competition, another big game. I don't know who's going 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: to come in and replace him at the moment, but 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: that's big news. I think Brandon's had a pretty good 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: year so far. 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 4: He's been playing good football, and I guess the really 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: concerning thing for the Roosters is he's their best number nine. 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: They're playing the type of football at the moment that 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 4: you'd imagine come September they'll be what one of the 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: top four teams that can really seriously challenge for the competition, 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: but not without Brandon Smith. 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 5: It's a significant blow. But my obvious question is Guy's 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 5: where does it go from here? And that's that's that's 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 5: my concern. And brath we said on the show two 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 5: seasons ago, prior to Brandon's appointment at the Roosters and 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 5: question whether it was the right move. Not not certainly 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 5: not branding Brandon's signing that he's a poor player or 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 5: anything in that regard of whether. 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 6: He would be a good fit for the Sydney Roosters. 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: And at this point in time, look for me, I 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 5: think it's baby steps towards an exit, an exit for 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: the Braner. 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 6: I just don't think it's worked Gordy. 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 5: And we see a breach here of which we don't 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 5: really see the Sydney Roosters go down this path. 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: Is he off with the players because it's it's it's 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: strange when you have a player and you get seeing 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: your players, you know, face the media and say, yeah. 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Well he's got to do this is is it strange? 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: It's unusual for the Roosters, yes, to have that's. 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: Right their own because they stuck up for Jennings right, 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: like they've had Lendu and they've had players in the 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: past and Lodge and Jennings and made and like they 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: made it a tweet which I thought was disgusting. 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 7: But then this happens. 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 8: On Kiri. 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: See Kiri's the sort of blake that would back his 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 4: mates to the hill. Something's happened there that has got 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: the senior players upset, and it can't be just missing 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: one meeting. 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 8: It has to be more than that to put him 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 8: off side. 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: And it's not as if he you know, he totally 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: unloaded on him, but just to say what Kiy said 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: about him, it just makes you think there's more to 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: this than meets the eye. 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: When we first you mentioned it, when we first spoke 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: out Brendan Smith going to the club. It was easier, 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: genuine nine because that's what they needed and also really 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: fit into that Rooster's culture because we'd heard rumors of 59 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: certain behaviors from Brandan on off the field. 60 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Now he's caught the breach. Now he's now being dropped. 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 7: Yep. 62 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: Is this the start of the end for Brandan? 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 6: I feel like it is, I really do, guys. 64 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 5: And look, look, if Brandon is investing and committed and 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: dedicated to staying at the Sydney Roosters, I wish him 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: all the best. But this they're a ruthless club, the 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 5: Sydney Roosters, and if you're not part of the buy 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 5: in of which is you would have to argue that 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 5: Brandon is not given. 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: That he's missed significant meetings. He's got leaders within. 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: The group calling him out that it's not significant, as 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: he signed for next year on pretty big day. 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 6: So what happens well, I would only think. 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 7: That who can take him at the mind? 75 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 5: I would only think it would take a significant investment 76 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 5: on the Sydney Rooster's behalf, as far as a payout 77 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: chipping in to go. 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 7: To another. 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: Anything around the Rooster's been willing to pay the money 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: for him to go. 81 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: I understand that they would be, but certainly figures. I 82 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 5: don't know Brae where, I don't know. 83 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 7: I don't know. 84 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: One thing we know about the Sydney Roosters is is 85 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 5: they rarely admit that they get a got a decision wrong, 86 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 5: and I think by way of payout, it's an admission 87 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 5: that they may have heard here on. 88 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 6: The acquisition of Brandon. 89 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: Now we might be putting the cart before the horse 90 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 5: and without giving Brandon an opportunity to get back into 91 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: this footy side. But for me, it smells like we're 92 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: seeing the slow departure of bread. 93 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: I said last night I spoke to Nick and Nick 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: said it was just just firing a warning shot, but 95 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: that was before he didn't get named in the team. 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I thought he'd be named to play this week. 97 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: So the fact that he hasn't been named and then 98 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: looking at the player's reaction yesterday, tells me that there's 99 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: a lot going on that we don't know about too. 100 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 5: One of the considerations to guys is there's a real 101 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 5: vacuum of experience leaving the Sydney Roosters at the end 102 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: of this season. JAREDI were our Hargraves, Luke Keary, Joey 103 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: Marnhu Angus Crichton yet to resign. 104 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 7: And with that. 105 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 5: Vacuum of experience leaving the club, I wonder if there's 106 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 5: questions being asked on with a bit of a reset 107 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: button about to be pushed some younger players being going 108 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 5: to be blooded next year at the Sydney Roosters. Is 109 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: a Brandon Smith who will naturally move into a leadership 110 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 5: role if he is still at the club. 111 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 6: Is he a player that. 112 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 5: We want setting some standards around the younger players coming through? 113 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 5: And I think that's that's a question that if it's 114 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: not being us, should be being. 115 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 8: I'll tell you one thing we know about the Roosters. 116 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: You said the other thing before one thing we know 117 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: is they always have a plan, and if I'm every 118 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: time they have a plan, if they're preparing to offload 119 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: Brandon Smith, they would have their eyes on someone else 120 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: and they'll. 121 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Go hard Smith. 122 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 8: They don't. 123 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: They don't start the season to make the top eight. 124 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: They start the season to win the comp. 125 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: Santa Smith. 126 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: Myriati's the young kid coming through, right, That's what young 127 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: fella Watson. 128 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: They've got playing good, good footy. 129 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: I think they'll actually go for a half, which with 130 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: Kiri moving on, so maybe they think the nine positions 131 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: covered and they'll with the money from Brendan, they could 132 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: go for a seven. 133 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: And they've got a lot of a lot of young 134 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: kids too, like real good depth in that squad at 135 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: the moment and kids coming through, so you just never 136 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: know what's around the corner. 137 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 8: But I reckon they need a top number nine. 138 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: Smith opened up on the potential fallout from his indiscretion 139 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: when speaking with Jimmy Graham on Monday By Around podcast. 140 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 6: Obviously I've got breads for. 141 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 9: Being late, and I'm not late, but missing the meeting 142 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 9: and yeah it was just a complete and another I 143 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 9: guess misunderstand or like done by me first of all, 144 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 9: I was starting. 145 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 6: To think I was going to get sacked myself. 146 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 9: So Trent was disappointed because it's quite a rooking mistake 147 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 9: and I feel like I let people down and I 148 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 9: don't like letting people down, so and it's something so 149 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 9: little like that can not really little, but something that 150 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 9: I just needed. I guess, Yeah, no danger of being 151 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 9: dropped this week, like do you know? 152 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 7: No, I don't know, but yeah, I hope not. Yeah. 153 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: I think what was telling you that was the fact 154 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: that he said I don't know if I will get 155 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: dropped on it, which means that he thought it was 156 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: he'd done the wrong thing because he was worried about that. 157 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: You could see that in his facial expressions in the 158 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: way that he was talking. But where does he send here? 159 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: What's the prediction? What do we think is going to 160 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: happen to Brandon Smith over the next couple of months? 161 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: Right now, I reckon it's his moment of truth, like 162 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: just listening to what he says there and the fact 163 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: that they've gone and dropped him what he probably didn't expect. 164 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 4: That that's his kick up the bum to say shape 165 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: up or ship out. And where, like I said before, 166 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: where the Rusters are positioned at the moment this could 167 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: be the making and breaking of their season and it's 168 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: up to him and maybe putting the pressure on him 169 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: to say, mate, you're in it for the boys. 170 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 8: Maybe that might be the more his. 171 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: Court the balls and his court the rest have gone 172 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: and hold on. So there must be more into it there. 173 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 7: It is. This is what's going to happen. 174 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: If you don't want to tie, and if you don't 175 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: want to buy in, if you don't want to be 176 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: part of this organization. 177 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 7: This is it. 178 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: So his last chance in it he goes one way 179 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: or other here he either gets on. 180 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: Board with the Ruster, he has a great finish of 181 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: the season, knuckles down, plays his best footy. 182 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 7: There's no doubt there's a chance. 183 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 6: Of the Rusters are capable of winning this year's premiership. 184 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Guys. 185 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: And if Brandon Smith plays to and competes, and Brandon 186 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 5: dedicates himself to the Roosters of which we know and 187 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 5: applies himself to the Brandon Smith that we know, then 188 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: they can go on and win a comp And I 189 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 5: reckon that's what is disappointing Trent Robinson the most that 190 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: he can't afford with a premiership win now open. He 191 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: cannot afford an anchor like Brandon Smith weighing them down. 192 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: He'd be frustrated because with his mind and body on 193 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: the right in the right, I suppose frame of mind 194 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: and also fitness wise, he's a great player and they 195 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: could win the comp with him being. 196 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: At his best. 197 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 2: Now it's time to take a look at our inns 198 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: and ou it's around fifteen or thanks. 199 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 7: To the tad. 200 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: Kevin Murray returns, good timing for the Bunnies from that 201 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: hip injury. Chorus how interestingly named it half back and 202 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: Galvin is rested for the Tigers. Brendan Smith, as we 203 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: just mentioned, drop Connor Watson comes in, which is good timing. 204 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: Bradman Bess returns for the Knights in time for Oragon 205 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 2: two as well, and Edwards named to play after that 206 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: quad injury he sustained in preparation for Origin one. But 207 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: the big news there chorus how named it half back. 208 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: Lockey Galvin rested and we spoke about this last night 209 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: and three sixty Where is Lockey Galvin out right now 210 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 2: in terms the Tigers and I suppose his injury as well. 211 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, brath eighteen year old lucky Gavin. We know 212 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 6: he's been in the headlines. 213 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 5: Shane Richards Shane richardson the seat of the Tigers, has 214 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 5: declared that over his dead body, will Lockland Galvin be 215 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: getting an early release from the footy club. My understanding 216 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: is that the Galvin camp, including his family, will be 217 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 5: unwavering in requesting a release from the West Tigers. 218 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: Really so he's family as well, so the whole camp 219 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: is not happy though. 220 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 5: That's what That's what I understand, Braith, and it's it's 221 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 5: it's not to do with money. It's about the belief 222 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 5: and where his trajectory is at the football club. 223 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: Now he's eighteen yep, so why did he sign this 224 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: contract in the first place? 225 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 7: So it was a basketcase. They were on the show 226 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 7: every day. 227 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 8: What Gordy you just said it, mate, I don't sign 228 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 8: the contract, but. 229 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: You know what, you know what you're doing now, the 230 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: way that they've lost. 231 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: Nine straight, you'd be flat out finding a blake there. 232 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: The true believes in the direction that club's going in. 233 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, he speak still in front of his mates, 234 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: but it's then getting relayed to the media. 235 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 7: I feel worried for what has changed since he signed there. 236 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: Well, what's changed about the fact that the Tigers have 237 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: signed a stack of players right to long contracts and 238 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: they're trying to offload them because what's good for the 239 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: Goose is good. 240 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 8: For the game. 241 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: Because then you see that's in there, didn't sign them. 242 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 3: He's a good young talent and they want to keep him. 243 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 6: There's a belief. 244 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 7: That's the difference. 245 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 5: Okay, So Jerome Leway is signed Blackland, Galvin's a young half. 246 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 6: There's currently Jaden Sullivan there. 247 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 5: Adam Dewey makes his comeback in New South Wales Cup 248 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 5: this weekend. 249 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 7: Do we could play centers? 250 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: You think Galvin, if he's serious, can strike up a 251 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: relationship with Lewi, who's a three time Premiership player, State 252 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: of Origin player players in the National he plays seven, 253 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: he plays six and gets a better education from a 254 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: player that's played with Nathan Cleary, who on this show 255 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: they say is going to be better than Andrew John. 256 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: It obviously points to the bigger problem at the club, 257 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 4: and that's obviously the lack of belief. Like you've got 258 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 4: Stefano that was offered this huge deal who doesn't want 259 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: to take it up because we hear he wants to 260 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: go elsewhere to chase his dream, hiss premiership dream. You've 261 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: got a young guy here who could be the next 262 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: big thing. And again he's like, he's questioning. 263 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 8: Where he is. 264 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: He wouldn't be the only bloke there, mate, And that's 265 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: the problem of the tiers at the moment. Benji sat 266 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: there the other night, right. 267 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: The players every loaded on the players and every player 268 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 3: wants to every player mate. 269 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 4: But but but this is a club that has been 270 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: down in the dold rooms for over a decade and 271 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: now they went off back to golden spoons and odds 272 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: on favorites to win another. 273 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: So with Laughlin, right, he seemed pretty happy a few 274 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: couple of months ago, right, and then over that time 275 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: they have they've failed. And you said he had an 276 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: issue with the Tigers. What is that issue exactly? 277 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 5: There's deeper roots that run here, guys, and it relates 278 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 5: back to originally and we're going back probably prior well 279 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 5: before this season, where there was a bullieve from Benji 280 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 5: Marshall that Lachlan was more of a back rower, a 281 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: left edge back row and the finers were signed at 282 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: the West Tigers, one of which is a back rower 283 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 5: and at that point in time, Galvin and his family 284 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: question why you'd bought over the top of meat. 285 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 6: At that point, then Jerome Lewie. 286 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: Was bought as well as those other half Sullivan's that 287 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: we've mentioned. So it feels as though from Galvin's point 288 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: of view, there's constant roadblocks in front of him. 289 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 6: The other key point here, guys, is I want to raise. 290 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 5: Is are we supposed to ignore that an eighteen year 291 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: old has been receiving painkilling injections in a fraction hand 292 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 5: Such is. 293 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 6: The pressure at this football club at the moment. 294 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: The difference between a young like getting them in an 295 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: old bloke getting them. The old bloke doesn't say it, 296 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: it's the same. 297 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 7: I get a handful of first games. 298 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: Where is the where is the concern or the long 299 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 5: term plan? Oh hang on a set mate, you go 300 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 5: sit out, you sit. 301 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 7: And talking about roadblocks, he's beat all those because. 302 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 6: Asked him, well, they probably would break. 303 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 7: I'm just. 304 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: I can't be a hypocrite as I did it to 305 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: eight for the ball, there you go doing. I was happy. 306 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 5: I think I think it's a poor reflection of where 307 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: the club is out at the moment. 308 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: Obviously under pressure, right, and they wanted to play My 309 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: thing with this is you just mentioned earlier that you 310 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: know that they bought other halves over the top of him, 311 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: in other back rollers. But then he got his shot 312 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: and did great, and they prioritized him. So he was 313 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: and he was very happy at that point and talking 314 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: about staying at the club forever. 315 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, now we're going. 316 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: Back to the preseason saying they weren't happy with that, 317 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: but they got over that quickly. 318 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: A matter was the happiest kid I've seen walk off 319 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: a footy field in a long time. 320 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: Sure, you'd have to is there any agitation? And I 321 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: know this is hard because yes, I'm a player agent, 322 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: but I like to have pride in the way that 323 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: I handed my players. 324 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: But is there agitation there? It's all about eighteen year 325 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: old kid. 326 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: You're telling me that his agent isn't talking to clubs 327 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: at the moment, isn't telling his. 328 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Family at the moment. 329 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: This is my concern because I see it happen a lot, 330 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: and I experiences as a player myself. 331 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: I have a long period of time is that. 332 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: If people get if the wrong people get into the 333 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: kids here, they lead him in the wrong direction. 334 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 7: Time. 335 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: The things he wants to hear and instead of the 336 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: things he should be hearing. 337 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, he thinks he's going into 338 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: the change room saying I don't want to be next 339 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: year to his teammates, which he shouldn't be doing, and 340 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: people close to him, if they care about him, should 341 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: be saying, mate, you should not be doing it right. 342 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: So it's also when they're that young, the advice and 343 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: the people that had around him guiding them in the 344 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: right direction. 345 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: Should he be thinking about leaving? Yes, because you just 346 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: stated why? But is there a way to go about it? 347 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 7: Yes? 348 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: There is. 349 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: It's a delicate conversation though, isn't it really like you 350 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: talk about our clubs chasing him? We had the ben 351 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: Hunt situation last year where there was an investigation after 352 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: he revealed to Buzz in a text message during Origin 353 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: that he wanted out, and it was talked that other 354 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: clubs the nr RULL dove into that for months. I'm 355 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: still waiting to see what the repercussions are for that one. 356 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: So it's not the only time it happens. I have 357 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: no doubt in the world that if Lackland Galvin wanted out, 358 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: you'd have several of the big name clubs ready to strike. 359 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 8: You know what I mean, He's not. 360 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 6: Going to go home. 361 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Unfortunately, guys, as a result of all the current 362 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: headlines in the past forty eight hours, it's now got 363 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: to a point where there are some Tigers players who 364 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: are invested in the footy club that are suggesting, if 365 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: we have a teammate here that isn't buying in, that 366 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: doesn't want to be here, let him go. 367 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: That's the game. 368 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Game needs to stand up at some stage and stand 369 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: for something because of all these clubs in the bottom, mate, 370 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: if it keeps on happening to him, they're going to 371 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: be feeder clubs for the top eight because it happens 372 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: at every club that's down the bottom. The player doesn't 373 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: like it. He wants to go to the top. Toys 374 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,359 Speaker 3: out of the toys. 375 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 6: Are shopping players right trying to trying. 376 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 8: To It's not cool, it's it's it's That's what I'm saying. 377 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 7: So that's what's happening. 378 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: It's happening on this side. It's not allowed to happen 379 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: on that side. Like this is the problem. And I'll 380 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: tell you the other problem for the Tigers right now, 381 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: Why does he want out? 382 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 8: What? 383 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 7: What? What? Why? 384 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: Like you said, because happiest young man in the world 385 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: and now he doesn't want to be there. It is 386 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: it rep people above though, to pull him aside and say, mate, 387 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: we want you here. 388 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 8: They've got to find a way to keep it going. 389 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: To be stronger on the agents too, and that's coming 390 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: from an agent. As Krals mentioned, Benji Marshall didn't hold 391 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: back after the tigers second half capitulation against the Dragons. 392 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 10: Take a look, you find someone to get sinburn. Every week, 393 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 10: give way silly penalties, we lose our head and unfortunately, 394 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 10: when a position where we can't do that to ourselves 395 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 10: and we do so. I'll say it again, if the 396 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 10: actions don't change, then the players have to change crawls. 397 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: This is where you write an article today, and I 398 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: feel like you're getting to this. Do you think that 399 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: Benji's I suppose coach coaching career was doomed at the 400 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: Tigers from the start. 401 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: Benji's got the potential to be anything as a coach. 402 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 4: But what I questioned right from the start, and what 403 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: I still question, is the fact that he came into 404 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: this job with such relative experience. Now we sit here 405 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: and talk about rookie coaches all the time. But when 406 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: you talk about blakes like Cameron Serraudo, and Andrew Webster 407 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: and Craig fitzgibbon and Adam O'Brien, that they've all been 408 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 4: in coaching as assistants for a long time, like a 409 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: decade or more. They've come through the grades and coach 410 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: younger guys. Even when Brad Arthur came as a rookie 411 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: coach at Paramatta, he'd coached in the butsh for so 412 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: long and owned his own team. Then he went to 413 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 4: Melbourne and had to sit under Bellamy. He went to 414 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: Manly Benji never had that, mate. It's like asking the 415 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: kid that ducks the school. He's such a bright talent, 416 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 4: let's make him principle. But you think, think of all 417 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: the problems that come with that. You've got to learn 418 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: the trade and fix it. I'll tell you what I 419 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: would do at some stage if things don't turn around 420 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: like you guys said he last night and spoke about 421 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: the possibility let it go into next year. Do you 422 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: think it's going to change or do you make the 423 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 4: call now? Because there's a guy sitting on the open 424 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: market at the moment that I Reckon would be ideal 425 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: for the Tigers. They won't do it because Benji signed 426 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: to the end of twenty seven. But Brad Arthur's sitting there. 427 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: He's got a wealth of experience. He's if he doesn't 428 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: get picked up by the Tigers, I'll guarantee call by 429 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: the end of the year, someone else. 430 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 8: Will pick him. 431 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: You think Brad Arthur's I think he'd be the perfect man. 432 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: He wouldn't give. 433 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: Benji another year to see how he goes with some 434 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: new players. 435 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: If it was me running the club, And I don't 436 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: believe Shane Richardson will do this, but I wouldn't know. 437 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: I truly think it was a mistake to start with, 438 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: but it's a bigger mistake to let it roll off. 439 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: I think it's just not going to work with Benji. 440 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: You just think there's no change. 441 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: I think in time it can work break. But how 442 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: much time do you give it? How much time do 443 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: you give it? Like, I know it's not Benji's fault. 444 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: I don't think that he was thrown into the job 445 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: too early, but I think the signs are there and 446 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: we're seeing it at the moment that it's it's probably 447 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: too big. 448 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 6: A job to Carals's point. 449 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: If Benji Marshall wasn't coaching the West Tigers, would he 450 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 5: be coaching in the NRL right, So he's only been 451 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: appointed because he was a solution to a major problem 452 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: at that time to appease remembering it was, you know, 453 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 5: it was a club on its knees and hasn't changed. 454 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 7: Guys. 455 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 5: They've lost fifty of their last sixty matches. It's not 456 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 5: going to change next year and it may take significant change. 457 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: You look at the Bulldogs playing at the moment and look, 458 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 4: in fairness, we doubted Serraldo last year, but you can 459 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 4: see you can see how he has changed the culture 460 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: at that club and he's coached it into them. He's 461 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: not only brought Crichton, but they've changed the whole culture 462 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 4: when they went out on the weekends. 463 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 8: He didn't need time. 464 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: But go back to the fact that Serrouldo had coached 465 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: all the way through the junior system at Penrith and 466 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 4: then he'd taken over it as assistant for several years. 467 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 4: He'd been involved in Premiership teams as a defense coach. 468 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 4: There was a lot more runs on the board than 469 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 4: what Benji's got. It's not a personal attack as well. 470 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: That's another thing, the people that surround you. Trent Robinson 471 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 4: when he took over again, he'd been an assistant, he'd 472 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: been over in England and had success over there. He 473 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: had Nick that Tigers haven't got Nick Politis. That's why 474 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: it's such a big job a young coach. 475 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: True, they got the Tigers to support the. 476 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 8: Well, they got Shane Grigson at the moment. 477 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 7: But he's been successful at Penuthin's house. 478 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 8: He has been. He has been. 479 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 4: But shame rich an administrator. He's not full good He's 480 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 4: not a full good type football brain. 481 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 5: Even more telling as to what Crawl said about campon Serraldo, 482 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 5: Cameron Serraldo knocks back the West Tigers. 483 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 6: He could see, he could see inside. 484 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 8: The four walls. 485 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: Why do he knock her back? 486 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 6: For everything we're seen, there's no foundation. 487 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 5: There's no foundation to except they're holding onto this junior 488 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 5: nursery of which there's no success at the top level, 489 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: of which players like Lachland Galvin can't see that there 490 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 5: is going to be success in the future. 491 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 6: So they jump out. 492 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: And it brings you back to the start of the conversation. 493 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: Why do the players want to jump out there? But 494 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: they're not believing in the system. 495 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: You asked you want the Tigers once because we bashed them. 496 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: You've got happy Chorus Our, you've got Leui, and you've 497 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: got Buller. That's not a bad spine moving for me. 498 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: That's actually a pretty good spine, don't you think. 499 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I'll throw out him doing into that mix. 500 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 7: Too, I think so. 501 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: And then if he gets on an edge and then 502 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 3: they start going, you don't think that's a bad side 503 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: target it. 504 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: Like you say, we bash him, but we're not Sydney 505 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: wanting to bash him. We're not Sittney here picking on them. 506 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: We're telling the facts. Like we're looking at their results, 507 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: We're looking at their performances, we're looking at reactions and 508 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: players within their own group. 509 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 7: You know. 510 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: It's it's and we're actually bringing to light a lot 511 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: of what the fans want to know because they'd be 512 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: sick of it when they like it's. 513 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: They had forty four second half points put on them 514 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: by the Dragons. Like the Dragons are going okay, but 515 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: they're not world beaters, you know what I mean? It 516 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: was their ninth straight loss. Like you can't mask the 517 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 4: problems there. You've got to speak about the reality I 518 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: was in. 519 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 6: I was on in Wollongong for that game. 520 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: They are the most loyal supporter base you will ever 521 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 5: find in Australians sport. They go down with their bo 522 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: and he's their scars, their jerseys on. They are in 523 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 5: the crowd, they don't leave until full time. Their team 524 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 5: is woeful and and and they stick on that. They 525 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 5: are the most loyal supporter base in the game. 526 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully things can change sooner rather than later. 527 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: But I feel like I've been saying it for a 528 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: couple of years now, Blues makes some big calls. 529 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: We'll need to make some big calls. Now, what have 530 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: you got for us? On Nico Heines Davies back this week. 531 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 6: For train Well train Well today, Guys. 532 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 5: He obviously missed that Broncos matched in back up after 533 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 5: Origin first Origin gets his opportunity against the Dolphins. I 534 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 5: know it's being sold as a fighter complete guys, that 535 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 5: there will be this straight swat for Nico Heines. 536 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 6: I'm not so short. I'm not so sure. 537 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: In relation to Michael mcguires thinking retise, yeah, I'm not 538 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 5: prepared to say it's a done deal that I'm not 539 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 5: prepared to say that, and I think McGuire's looking deeply. 540 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 6: At the obvious, and that was the Blues played with 541 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 6: twelve players. 542 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: And you believe that Madge could keep the same barring Swally, 543 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: he could stick with the same team as Game one. 544 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 6: I think that it will come down to this weekend again. 545 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: Brave right, because it doesn't matter that because if he's 546 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: not going to change because of the twelve men. 547 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 5: No, because Mitchell Moses hasn't played lights out footy like. 548 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 6: Some would have expected. The game was on the line yesterday. 549 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: Break imagine he did that he kept the same team. 550 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: It would be admirable. 551 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 8: He'd be back in his judgment, wouldn't he. 552 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: But the thing I say on this that again it's 553 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: not it's not a personal attack on Niko, but if 554 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 4: we're being fired income here, we're not planning for the 555 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: future with developing Niko as the number seven to take 556 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: us forward. We've got Nathan Cleary who's injured at the moment, 557 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 4: and the moment he's back, he gets the job. So 558 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: what we're really doing is trying to win this series 559 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: and save this series one, and. 560 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: Mitchell Moses has got No one played that bad for 561 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: New South Wales that they're definite out. 562 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 7: No no one. 563 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 8: I don't think any. 564 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 7: No one disgraced themselves that bad. Did they break in 565 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 7: your if someone jumps the ground. 566 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: I thought they played tough considering they didn't adjust to 567 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: the twelve players, which cost him two tries on his 568 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: right hand side, which was very costly in the end. 569 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 2: But I think the big one in regards to Niko 570 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: was that they were leaning towards Mitchell before nick. Yeah, 571 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: so it's not so much Nick Nikko playing himself out 572 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: of the jersey, it's more Moses playing himself back into 573 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: it because he was originally going to be there. That's 574 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 2: all I'd say there. And I think Nicko's kicking game 575 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: could have been a lot better. 576 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: I still think Moses needs to performance this weekend against 577 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 5: the Sydney Rousters. Guys, you can't just think he rolls 578 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 5: out and just goes through the motions. The deals get 579 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: beat and all of a sudden everything's rosy. He's back 580 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: in the Blues team. 581 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 8: There's a lot of questions I'll l asked you on 582 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 8: that break though. 583 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: Is there another option the way Luai is playing seven 584 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: for Penrith at the moment, of course, to possibly move 585 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: him to seven and bring in Burton, who was particular 586 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: Keilly strong the other day. He's got that burning boot. 587 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: There's the Penrith connection there. If Edwards returns as the fallback, 588 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 4: you've got Crichton. That's sort of Leui plays a game 589 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: that a lot of other guys might find hard to understand, 590 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: but Edward's reads him like. 591 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: You could definitely do that. 592 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: Louis was pretty good Game one, and Burton's been in 593 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: great form and he's a big, great kicking game, big. 594 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: Five eight, running five eight, exactly what you want. 595 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: The only thing again that always been I said it 596 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: before Game one is Lewi and Hines with their kicking game. 597 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: You know they're not renowned for their their finest or 598 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: their long kicking games, which caught us out. So I 599 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: think that's where Moses has the front running. He has 600 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: the edge because the kicking game is his first class 601 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: and probably better than both of those guys, So I 602 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: think his favorite for that. Let's move on now to 603 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: Latrell Mitchell. Now everyone's saying that he needs to be 604 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: their full game too. Certainly the media haven't heard from 605 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: Milhael maguire, interested to know if you two have, But 606 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: what are our thoughts on this. Latrell's in great form. 607 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: He seems to be back where he wants to be. 608 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: Does he get the spot? 609 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: I can't believe it's a conversation, to be honest with you, 610 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: Like I know, I know that Latrell hasn't had his 611 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: greatest season, and he didn't have his greatest season last year, 612 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: and he hasn't played for the Blues for a couple 613 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 4: of seasons. But if you if you go over the 614 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: performances and the options over the weekend, you've got Jesse 615 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: Rayman was who was good, but he wasn't on the 616 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: same page as Littrell when it came to his influence 617 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 4: on the game. Catoni Staggs had some really great charges 618 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: and played tough. But again, Latrell has just got that 619 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: touch of class and the X factor that if the 620 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: media we're picking the side I don't need. 621 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 8: I don't think it would be. 622 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 3: Playing one one's playing center, so you have more control 623 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: over the game when you're playing in the one person. 624 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to the only question I think really is 625 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: whether it's Latrell or Burton, And if Burton misses, he 626 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: goes to bench. 627 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 8: That's how I said I'd play Burton six. 628 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: I think Burton needs to be in the side somewhere, 629 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: but it's just whether for me it's Latrell as that senate. 630 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. 631 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: Look, I reached out to the Latrell and his management 632 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 5: last week guys, because I wanted to hear it from him. 633 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm ready. 634 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: To go mage, let me show you that I'm back 635 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: in blue right now. The feedback I came was no, thanks, Dave. 636 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: I want to let my football do the talking. This 637 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 5: was prior to the performance against the Titans, and pleasingly 638 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 5: he delivered. I want to see it go again because 639 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: consistency has been the Latroll's issue this year, and I 640 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 5: want to see it again this weekend. 641 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 6: If not absolutely is in the team, I have. 642 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: A problem with that in that it would be lovely 643 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: to hear Littrell come out and say that. But the 644 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 4: really great coaches in the game what they do. When 645 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: Bennell was coaching Latrell, he found a way to bring 646 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: him closer and to get him to perform. And when 647 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: you pick a five, well, La Trill, you pick a fight, 648 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: You're not going to bring him closer. 649 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 8: Why why getting to. 650 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 4: Grovel and put up his hand hold on But find 651 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: a way to. 652 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 8: Play instead of playing right, So I find a way 653 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 8: the morning to play. 654 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 7: Well. 655 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: Wayne rang elf and he was thirty thousand kilometers away 656 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: and he said, what took you so long? 657 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: Yes? 658 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: So then we know that that guy wanted to play 659 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: for Queensland. Sometimes as a coach, and you're up in 660 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: the air and ares a reason you do want the 661 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: player to come and say, yes. 662 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 8: You reckon. 663 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: If Wayne rang Latrell from thirty thousand kilometers away, he'd say, 664 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: what took you so long? 665 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 8: I reckon? He would, Wayne, And I reckon, I reckon. 666 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: That's what the Blues have got to be careful of 667 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: because they've got the player there that could potentially be 668 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: the difference. It's got to get him in the side, 669 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: made love him. 670 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: It's an easy phone call. I want you to play. 671 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: Do you want to play for me? Do you want 672 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: to play for your state? 673 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: Let's see if it happens, Mitchell, keep your phone on, buddy, 674 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: break news which happened this afternoon. The l Nick Politis 675 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: is starting a team over in America. 676 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: That's a beautiful on this one, guys. 677 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 8: I think it's a great idea. Nick Politis is very 678 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 8: excited about it. 679 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: You know, when Nick Politis first came on board as 680 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: the Rooster's sponsor in the mid nineteen seventies, everyone kind 681 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: of laughed at it was a game changing moment. 682 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 8: It really changed how things are. 683 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: And over there at the moment, they're going to start 684 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: up the Los Angeles Roosters, and I think there's six 685 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: teams in California. At the moment, I think there's seventeen 686 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: teams in the States. And he said to me, you know, 687 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: he said, you don't know what's possible. It's like taking 688 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 4: the game over to Las Vegas the opening rounds this year. 689 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: If you can find it, jag one or two players, 690 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: I create something over there. Rugby union is such a 691 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 4: big sport in the States. I do follow so many athletes. 692 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: So if you don't play NFL and there's not that 693 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: many teams, and if you don't play college, all these 694 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: guys get left behind and there's so many go to 695 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: the combine. 696 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 7: So there might be a domb young type. 697 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: Of player that is a great athlete, you know, hasn't 698 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: really grown up with the game fucking catch and run. 699 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 7: Well, there's no doubt. 700 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 8: Come through the college systems. 701 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: Look, there's no doubt that there's talent that fall away 702 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: over there. What is it like California forward on the 703 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: front of the jerseys. 704 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 7: They're good. 705 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 6: The fishing with a fish are, aren't they? Gordy. I 706 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 6: think there's over and above sporting talent in the US. 707 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: It's it's a it's a it's a move that only 708 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 5: the roosters would perform, and it's a move that only. 709 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 6: Nick Politis would perform because he doesn't lose me. 710 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 5: He thinks outside the box and that's what has been the. 711 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: Big buzzy breaking stories. They're flight and one of the best. 712 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: Next Dave Thanks Crawls. Up next, it's the Player's Perspective 713 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: with Big Willie Mason and Mitchell Pierce and following an 714 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: old three sixty, it's the latest edition of the Mattie 715 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: John's Podcast.