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Speaker 1: Welcome morning, Melbourne. It is just got nineteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: You are on the air with Jason. Lauren clint is

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Speaker 1: here as well. You're listening to Nov one hundred and

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Speaker 1: whatever you're up to at the moment, I strongly suggest

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Speaker 1: you turn up the radio and listen carefully to our

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Speaker 1: next guest.

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Speaker 2: My government and the New South Wales government and other

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Speaker 2: premiers as well will work closely with the Jewish community

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Speaker 2: on arrangements for a National Day of Morning.

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Speaker 3: The Opera House will light out for the National Day

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Speaker 3: of Morning this evening, honoring the fifteen lives lost in

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Speaker 3: the Bondai terror attack.

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Speaker 4: Flags on government buildings we've flown at half mass and

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Speaker 4: there'll be a minute silence at one minute past seven

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Speaker 4: this evening. Shana Gootnick joins us in studio this morning.

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Speaker 4: She tragically lost her.

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Speaker 5: Father at that terrible, terrible event in Bonbdai last year.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to read what she posted after the tragic

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Speaker 6: events that happen on the fourteenth of December twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 6: along with fourteen my father was gunned down. He faced

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Speaker 6: the terrorists and brought others time to get away. He

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Speaker 6: took over ten bullets while shielding others. He saved the

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Speaker 6: lives of innocent people. Thank you very much for joining

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, how are you excellent? Question?

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Speaker 8: Sort of still waiting to wake up from this nightmare,

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Speaker 8: not feeling like it's reality. I was chatting to a

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Speaker 8: Eli Schlanger. He was also murdered that day, and we're

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Speaker 8: just chatting about how this tragedy came about in such

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Speaker 8: an unnatural way, humans killing other humans that I think

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Speaker 8: our bodies are rejecting the reality of it and just

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Speaker 8: refusing to allow our brains to even process what's happened.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was overseas when this happened. I was

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Speaker 4: in New York at the time, and I woke up

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Speaker 4: to this harrowing news and I remember thinking, no, that

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Speaker 4: can't be right. This doesn't happen in Australia. We saw

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Speaker 4: these images on the news, but that was your dad.

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Speaker 4: He's a grandfather, he's a friend to so many. We've

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Speaker 4: seen so many extraordinary tributes to your dad over the

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Speaker 4: past few months. It really is just incomprehensible what happened

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Speaker 4: in Bondi Beach.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, completely, it's you know, it's Bondi Beach. It's where

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Speaker 8: I grew up, it's where my husband grew up before

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Speaker 8: we moved to Melbourne, and it's unfathomable that something of

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Speaker 8: this magnitude and horror and bloodshed and blood bath was

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Speaker 3: But before we dive into the actual day itself, tell

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Speaker 3: us about your beautiful dad.

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Speaker 8: He was someone that was just larger than life. He

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Speaker 8: shoulder shaking, laugh. He was such a loyal, real friend.

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Speaker 8: Everyone just loved him for the fact that he was genuine.

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Speaker 8: What you saw was what you got, and that was

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Speaker 8: But at the same time, we call him a Papa Bear.

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Speaker 7: He was a bear. He was a fierce protector.

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Speaker 8: If he loved you, he would give you absolutely everything

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Speaker 4: I read a tribute from one of your friends actually

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Speaker 4: who said that many people, not just his children called him,

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Speaker 4: that they all felt like they're a part of your family.

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Speaker 5: That must be so special to hear.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 8: I grew up as an only child and my parents

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Speaker 8: with so much love. And yeah, just all my high

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Speaker 8: school friends, all my just coming forward with memories of

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Speaker 8: my dad and how much they've been affected by all

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Speaker 8: seeing the impact that he had on so many individual jewels,

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Speaker 7: It's just coming forward.

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Speaker 6: It made you feel incredibly proud.

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Speaker 8: Me and my mum were just reading the messages and

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Speaker 3: So, when those bullets started bringing out on an iconic beach,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so we've the majority of us have all seen

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Speaker 7: We saw the footage of.

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Speaker 8: Him throwing the brick at the terrorists and him actually retreating,

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Speaker 7: He was not scared at all.

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Speaker 8: He was brave until the last minute, till his last breath,

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Speaker 6: How do you feel watching the footage.

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Speaker 8: The beginning, I couldn't, it was too much, But when

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Speaker 8: And knowing my dad, he was completely rational, calm and

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Speaker 3: So tonight is the national moment of mourning or day

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Speaker 8: So I think one of the main things to come

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Speaker 8: and to readjust our expectations of what's just, what's what's good,

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Speaker 4: Oh God, I can just imagine your dad would be

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Speaker 5: I think we can all see where you get that from.

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Speaker 6: The family.

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Speaker 3: He must miss him so much.

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Speaker 8: It's just impossible to describe. He spent his time between

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Speaker 8: And every time I sort of see a picture of

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Speaker 8: just what are you doing there?

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Speaker 7: What are you?

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Speaker 8: You should be here with us, and just that absolute ache.

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Speaker 8: I want to be held by him one more time.

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Speaker 8: I want to see him. I want to see a smile.

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Speaker 8: It's just something daily. Someone asked me if I have

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Speaker 8: I go to sleep with it, I sleep with it,

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Speaker 4: I'm just so sorry that this happened. It's just the

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Speaker 4: most hideous thing. It's I mean, it's so devastating, and

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Speaker 4: I'm so so sorry this happened to your family.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry it happened to your community. And I know.

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Speaker 4: Today be a very very difficult day for so many people,

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Speaker 4: This is a hideous attack on our Jewish friends, and

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Speaker 4: I really hope that you feel that love and support

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Speaker 5: I'm just so sorry this.

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Speaker 7: Happened to you. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: We do. We feel it so much. We feel it

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Speaker 8: here with you, guys. We feel it everywhere we go.

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Speaker 8: Strangers coming up to us in the street and they

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Speaker 8: don't even know that it was my father. They just

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Speaker 8: know that we're recognizably Jewish and they're sorry for what

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Speaker 8: wrapped in a cocoon of love. So at one point

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Speaker 8: we've seen the worst of humanity, but we've also seen

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad, But I know today that it's hard

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Speaker 4: to you then, and in times like this, it can

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Speaker 4: And I think if we can take anything from this,

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Speaker 4: to do exactly what you just said and to look

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Speaker 5: So thank you, Thank you for sharing that to.

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Speaker 3: Your family and you and.

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Speaker 5: We'll be thinking of you and your beautiful dad tonight.

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Speaker 6: Who is an absolute hero in every sense of the word.

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Speaker 6: You should be very proud of him, and I know

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Speaker 6: you would be.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. We are we He was always our hero

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Speaker 7: and now we get to share him with the world.

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Speaker 5: Oh never