WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 28 August 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:07.200 On Scorne Lives Australia. This is the Reader Panalty Show. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:11.800 Good evening and welcome to the REATA Panney Show. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.920 Coming up tonight, a massive program kicking off with the 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:16.120 Great Douglas Murray. 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.639 Leading behavioral scientist, Professor Gan sad. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.400 Will be here to define the word woke and how 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:26.400 to combat it in your workplace and household. Army Horowitz 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.240 on the latest from the US, and later in the hour, 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.239 doctor David Adler on growing concerns about the Albanizi government's 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.800 attitude to Israel and He's losing It. Features a bunch 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:42.640 of enraged white leftists calling a brown man, Vivet Gramaswami 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.760 racist and telling him he is not welcome in a 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:46.520 public park. 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:47.640 You're not welcome. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.800 Well, the good news is we're in America and so 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.760 we actually get to all express ourselves. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:53.120 Express being a racist. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.840 You get, you get your express being a racist? Zame, 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.280 is that what you get to express? 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.480 I'm from American, but I'm. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:07.600 Joining me now. 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.480 Is best selling author of groundbreaking books, including his latest 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.320 The War on the West. Douglas Murray, we finally have 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.440 a Kamala Harris interview today. CNN announced that she will 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.640 be sitting down with Dana Bush, but the interview is 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.119 not live and she will have Tim Walls joining her. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.920 Can we trust CNN to ask the tough questions and 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.640 also not edit out the word salads we've come to 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.000 expect from Harris. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:38.800 We'll see. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:44.640 I think it's a fascinating thing that the Democrat nominee 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.120 for president is actually going to deign to answer any 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.800 questions from the press. Of course, Joe Biden has given 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.520 fewer press conferences during his time in office than any 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:58.320 president of recent decades, and it looked like Kamala Harris 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.120 was trying to beat him to that, or if no other, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.680 The fact that she's doing with her running mate Tim 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.120 Wolfs is extraordinarily interesting, and. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:08.600 I'll tell you why. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:14.160 It's for this reason. We don't know any details of 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.600 what Kamala Harris would like to do or intends to 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.400 do if she gets the most important job in the 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:21.440 world in November. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.000 We don't know. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.720 What her fiscal policies are going to be, what her 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.760 trade policies are going to be, We don't now have 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.480 any detail what her border and immigration policies are going 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.840 to be, and we don't have any knowledge at all 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.960 of what her foreign policy is going to be. And 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.000 the problem of Tim Walls, or indeed Kamala Harris appearing 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.839 with one without the other is that the other may 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.680 say things which their running mate doesn't know or hasn't 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.960 heard about, and that'll be because they're making it up 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.080 on the fly. So if you were to have her 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.799 sit down just with Tim Walls and say, now, look, 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.440 do you agree with everything in Kamala harris foreign policy, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.600 he might have to reveal the fact that there is 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.680 no foreign policy and might have to just make some 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.640 stuff up. Then of course the press would say to 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:11.720 her if they ever get a chance to sit down 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.960 with her again, and they say it seems to some 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.160 extent unlikely she does ever want to sit down with 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.760 the media. They would say to her, well, Tim Wall 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.280 said this about your foreign policy, and then she'd have 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.360 to try to make something up on the fly as well. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.480 So it's very clever of them to decide to sit 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.920 down together because that way they can contradict each other. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:31.959 But less. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:38.600 Well, there is also this transformation of Harris from a 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.480 staunch lefts to have the most liberal voting record in 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:47.000 the Senate to this tough law and order pro America figure. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:52.080 She's now claiming she doesn't support a fracking band, despite 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.480 in the past saying she'd bring one in on day one. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.640 She's backing away from electric vehicle Mandaise, and she's suddenly 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.800 in favor of a border wall. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.320 Douglas, she'd be wearing a mega hat suit. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.120 It's very insting. Of course, she wouldn't be the first 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:14.720 politician to promise absolutely everything and say contradictory things in 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.320 the run up to trying to get everyone's vote in November. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:19.800 But the interesting thing. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:26.279 About Kama Harris is less the contradictions than what basic 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.400 instinct she seems to have had about politics as she's 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.279 expressed them in the past. This claim that she's now 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.000 in favor of a border wall doesn't seem to me 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.760 to be a flip flopping. It does seem to me 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:43.479 to be absolutely typical election season pandering. But what's more 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.320 interesting is what she said about the border wall any 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.919 time before when she's been questioned about it. I just 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.880 watched back earlier today one of her appearances. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:55.880 On The View. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.080 How can I describe the View to Non America? And 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:07.480 it's like Britain's Loose Women, but less cerebral it's it's 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.960 like I mean, it's it's a very it's a very unfunny, 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:16.120 funny light daytime show. And so of course she presented 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.359 herself to these fans of hers on the panel to 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.560 ask her softball questions some years ago. And on that occasion, 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.960 Kama Harris said, in one of those jokes that no 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.360 one else finds a joke, but she finds absolutely hysterical that. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.719 She says that she's very interested in and has dealt 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:37.599 with international criminal bodies and in UH and in going 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:41.839 after those people, she found that interesting thing about international 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:47.000 groups is they operate internationally. She found that absolutely hysterically 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.240 funny and laughed. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.679 Like mad for ages. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.920 But the point is that she said, and she said 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.080 in that interview, said interview, in that softball thing, she 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.839 said the border wall wouldn't stop these Internet national gangs 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.360 and then laughed manically. Well, the thing is is that 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.120 everything she tried to say and that interview was borders 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:13.440 and walls don't matter, that they don't do anything. Well, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.200 if that is her view, and it seems to have 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.680 been her view until yesterday, that seems to me to 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.640 be a fairly settled view. She thinks that that doesn't 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.600 really matter if you have a border or a border 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:31.640 wall because of international things. So I don't really buy 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.480 this late conversion to a wall at all. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.159 No, I think there must have some sort of internal 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.720 polling that is alarming them, particularly about the big issues 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.599 like illegal immigration in the US. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.640 So we're seeing this about face. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.359 Just quickly, I want to ask you about Donald Trump 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.560 winning the endorsement of former Democrat Tulci Gabbart, who famously 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:58.080 ended Kamala's last run for president. She's also helping him 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:03.520 prepare for the bit with Harris. How crucial is the 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.719 upcoming debate and who has. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:06.279 More to lose? 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.200 Well, of course if the poles, if some of the 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.760 poles are correct, and Karla Harris is ahead, then the 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.640 sense would be that she had more to lose. Tarsi 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.120 Gabbard being brought on board by Trump is very interesting 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.600 because AULD say, Cala Harris has put herself forward for 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:28.680 so few interviews and so little scrutiny, aside as I 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:33.720 say from the geniuses of the view that actually Tusi 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:38.640 Gabbott is is particularly useful because she was running against 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.800 Harris some years ago in the primaries. She's one of 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.640 the few people who's actually been against Harris on a 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:49.520 stage and demonstrated very effectively how to take Harris down 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.920 by using what we used to call facts. Now, if 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.440 Tulsi Gabbert can can help Trump to find a way through, 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.640 she actually probably the best qualified person to do so, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.120 as I said, because he's one of the very few 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.960 people who's actually actually gone up against Harris. Otherwise, I mean, 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.560 nobody knows really what to do against him, because just 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:10.720 no one has had a chance. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:13.400 True. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.800 Now, let's talk about the extraordinary rescue of a hostage 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:22.480 held by Hermas since October seven. Kaid Fahan Alkadi was 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:26.520 one of eight Arab Bedwin Israeli is abducted on October 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:30.000 seven and was rescued from a tunnel in what the 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:34.280 Israeli military are calling a complex operation in the southern 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.400 Gaza Strip. There were joyous scenes as he and his 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:43.959 family where reunited in hospital. The family were running to 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.520 his bedside after hearing news of his rescue. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:53.640 Douglas, those who say Israel is a apartheid. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.880 State really need to explain to us how the whole 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.400 country is celebrating. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.400 The rescue of an hour Muslim bed one. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.679 Well, first of all, I mean, it's just wonderful and 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.280 remarkable news. As the months have gone on and on, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.800 there's been so much fear about the well being or 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:15.040 even whether the hostages like him are alive. And it's 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.840 so heartening to every is Ready and everyone outside who 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:23.079 cares about about human life that that this this man 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.559 should have been saved. As you mentioned, I mean, it's 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:31.400 a bad day for the Israel apartheid lobby because they 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.400 have to explain, as we're seeing in the pictures there, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:38.240 how a Muslim Bedouin father can be surrounded by his 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:43.360 children at his bedside being treated by an Orthodox Jewish 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:50.079 doctor in this allegedly apartheid state. So so yes, I mean, 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.280 it's it's a it's a wonderful thing in itself, wonderful 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.240 to see him home and reunited with his family. And 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.959 obviously everyone hopes that the rest of the hostages were 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.880 will be able to have the same happy conclusion to 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:08.360 their appalling treatment by Hamas. But yes, it's a bad 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.760 day for all those people who want to continue to 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.720 lie about Israel and who pretend that the society is 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.000 something that it just isn't. And you know, Israel is 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.600 a society where Muslims, Jews, Christians and others all have 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.400 equal rights, and Hamas, of course, wants to take away 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.400 every one of those rights and has done everything it 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.160 can to do so. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.559 And we saw in some of that footage him taking 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:39.199 a call from Benjamin Nishan Yahoo whilst on his hospital beds. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:44.680 So some rare good news in that region today. Now 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.680 I want to ask you about Kirstama. He's still railing 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.360 against what he calls right wing extremism. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:52.199 Let's have a listen. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.480 A mindless minority of thugs who thought that they could 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:02.520 get away with causing chaos, smashing up unities and terrifying minorities, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.600 vandalizing and destroying people's property. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.240 But Douglas, we've seem to have heard very little condemnation 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.719 of the lawlessness and violence in the notting Hill carnival 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.680 that just took place. There were three hundred and thirty 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:21.200 four arrests, eight people stabbed, and the media too were 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:26.440 it pains to paint this mayhem as mostly peaceful and 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.880 enjoyable day. Have a quick look at this clip from 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.080 sky News UK. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.160 And they said a man believed to be in his 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:34.960 twenties has been stabbed. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.600 His injuries are not life threatening, but overall it's been 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.160 a really peaceful and enjoyable date. Douglas, this is not 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.520 the first time there has been trouble at the notting 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:51.960 Hill Carnival, but I'm perplexed not much condemnation from the 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.480 political class, and even the authorities, though they've made a 0:11:55.559 --> 0:12:01.160 lot of arrests, aren't exactly naming and shaming the those 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.240 who have been charged with offenses. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.920 No, I mean, I mean, there's only one rate way 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.720 to really understand this and this astonishing double standard, which 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.480 is the notting Hill Carnival is one of the holy 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:18.000 days of diversity obsessed to Britain, and you're not allowed 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.319 to in any way insult or blaspheme the holy places 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:27.440 on this holiest of days. The notting Hill Carnival every 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:33.239 year has stabbings and break ins and outbreaks of lawlessness, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.319 and police officers are molested by so called carnival goers 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.880 and the police just stand around and get molested. And 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.680 it happened again this year. If, of course, I mean, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.000 if this was a non holy day in the diversity 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.520 calendar and it was white working class people who have 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.319 of course all far right racists. Now, of course, if 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.880 it was white working class people, it would be a 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.080 totally different story. But this is one of the great 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:06.840 holy days of diversity, and so the Sky News went 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.920 there in the same way that CNN famously did during 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.600 the George Floyd riots, into the area of mostly peaceful, 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.760 violent protests, you know, and the city behind you can 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.160 be burning down, but it's mostly peaceful burning down. And 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.160 on this occasion, you know, yes, a parent was stabbed 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.280 pushing their child in a pram, but it was a 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.200 mostly peaceful stabbing, you see, because it was all about diversity, 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.160 and as we all know, diversity is our strength. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.440 Always. Before you go, I want to ask you about 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:45.320 Mark Zuckerberg. He's admitted that Meta, that's Facebook and Instagram 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.720 were pressured by the Biden Harris administration to censor COVID 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:55.480 nineteen content that they wrongly claimed was disinformation. The timing 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.280 of all this is very interesting. What do you make 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.640 of Zuckerberg's about face yet, because it seemed to be 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.840 quite happy with the censorship and the suppression of news. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.880 But is he perhaps fearing a second Trump term and 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.280 what that could mean for Meta? 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.240 It's interesting. I mean, it's one of those sort of 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.440 stories where it's sort of years later, after everyone knew something, 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.880 somebody admits that the thing everyone else knew was true. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:27.640 I mean, everybody saw in real time what happened with 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:33.280 Facebook and other platforms in relation to COVID misinformation. Of course, 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.920 misinformation and disinformation turned out only to be things that 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.240 you know, weren't wanted to be uttered on social media 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.560 by the governments. It was an extraordinary overreach, as it 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.320 was in the case of the hunter Biden's story, which 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:51.840 Mark Zuckerberg also mentioned, his platforms have been told not 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.760 to run because it was disinformation. Only for us, you know, all, 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.360 to find out very surely after was actually it's far 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.520 from disinformation. The laptop was true. The New York Post 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.480 knew that anyone reading The New York Post knew that 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:12.280 Mark Zuckerberg and his clever you know, employees of Facebook 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.560 and things, however, didn't seem to know that. But they've 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.560 realized it four years later, RITA. So I'd imagine we 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:23.440 can look forward to sometime in twenty twenty seven or 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:28.200 twenty twenty eight, Mark Zuckerberg telling us that, for instance, 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:33.520 Joe Biden wasn't an entirely fit candidate to run for 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.920 a second term as president. And they've just realized it 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:42.040 and they're sorry that they helped cover up and say 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.960 that all that stuff was fake news. It turns out 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.800 actually the news was true, but thank you for the apology. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.840 Four years later, we can look forward to this. It 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.040 is only only about you know, only the greatest social 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.680 media platforms in the planet, zinging information to us at 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:56.520 the press. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:56.760 Of a button. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.600 Only they can be found to have about a four 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:04.240 year wait time to catch up with everyone else's wonderful. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.920 Yes, and I just thank god they're not in any 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:14.440 way political, particularly Meta. It's not like the Zuckerberger donated 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.160 four hundred million dollars of his own money in twenty 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.080 twenty to help fortify that election. Douglas Murray, thank you 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.880 so much for your time this evening great pleasure. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.080 As always, reta thank you. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.800 Now more on big tech and the crucial role it 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.480 plays in promoting or suppressing free speech. Facebook's pair and 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.280 company Meta is one of the worst offenders in censoring 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:42.000 and suppressing Conservatives. You can rail against white people, Western civilization, 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.640 and Christianity, but if you take a negative view on 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:52.080 DEI policies, cultural Marxism, socialism, then you may find yourself censored. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.000 But these radical ideas are on the rise again, and 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.040 as Professor Gad Sad rights on X, we need to 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.439 combat them. Socialism communism appeal to many people because on 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.439 the surface it seems so fair, compassionate, and kind. Of course, 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.800 once you are able to think beyond that of a 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.680 five year old, you realize that it is the antithesis 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.560 of fairness, compassion, and kindness. It is contrary to human nature, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.600 and hence it is always doomed to fail. But like 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.600 the proverbial phoenix, it rises from the ashes to parasitize 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:30.879 a new generation of imbeciles. Doctor Gad Sad, visiting Professor 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:36.600 and global Ambassador of Northwood University and esteemed evolutionary behavioral scientists, 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:37.359 joins me. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.560 Now, doctor Sad. 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.640 The cultural Marxists seem to be winning the ideological debate. 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.760 They dominate academia, and now their influence has spread well 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.320 beyond college campuses. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.280 Well, this is one of the things that frustrates me 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.560 so much, because when I began warning people nearly three 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.280 decades ago that these dreadful idea ideas we're festering on 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:05.600 university campuses, people would say to me, exactly to your point, retail. Oh, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.400 but don't worry, this is just in some esoteric department 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.160 and the humanities. But then, of course I warned them 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.240 that it starts off in an esoteric department in the humanities, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.800 but eventually it becomes our Prime Minister of Canada, it 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.640 becomes our journalists, it becomes our popular culture. And so 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.520 the virus has escaped, and now it has infected us. 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:33.760 All it has escaped. It is prevalent, certainly in media. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:33.840 In the culture. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:38.480 You look at what Hollywood's producing, what the celebrity class promote. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:41.800 Is there a cue for attack? 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:46.480 Can we combat something that seems to have spread far 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.600 and wide? Though I would argue the overwhelming majority of 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.399 people are still not infected. They still can see the 0:18:53.440 --> 0:19:00.159 difference between the work insanity and just common sense rational views. 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.440 Well, in the parasitic mind, I do offer an inoculation 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.520 against a sort of mind vaccine against all of these 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:07.480 parasitic ideas. 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.160 But let me give you one. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:14.240 Recent instantiation of this type of parasitic thinking. So, for example, 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.440 now we see Kamala Harris that has been coordinated, as 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.600 you know, Empress of the World. And the reason why 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.360 she is resonating so well, because she has hijacked people's 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.480 emotional systems. Right, It's about positive vibes, it's about joy, 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.960 it's about excitement, it's about fun. And so that's a 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:36.360 form of parasitic thinking, when you allow your emotional system 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:40.280 to take over your cognitive system. Emotions are wonderful. If 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.399 I'm going down the dark alley and I experience fear 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.280 because I see three young men loitering, it is perfectly 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:50.360 evolutionary irrelevant for me to feel fear. But if I'm 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.919 choosing the leader of the free world, I probably should 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.679 not be basing it on positive vibes and fun. And 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.359 so at times I feel very pessimistic about the flight 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.960 of our society. But then if I weren't somewhat optimistic, 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:05.360 I wouldn't be able to get out of bed. 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:12.320 Well, you mentioned your best selling book, The Parasitic Mind. 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.879 How infectious ideas are killing common sense? Elon Musk said 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:22.040 his son was killed by the work mind virus. His 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:27.320 son now identifies as a girl and has a transitioned. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.720 Explain how you wokeness is a virus. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.000 And if you've got someone within the family, if you've 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.040 got workness in the workplace, how can you. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:40.639 Deal with that, how. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.399 Can you help people return to common sense. 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.200 Well, I actually the reason why I use the term 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:51.959 parasitic rather than just virus is because it actually kills 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.919 the host in the service of the parasite. So let 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.640 me give you an analogy before I answer fully your question. 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.320 So you take, for example, the wood cricket, which is 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.119 an actual cricket that abhors water. But when it is 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.679 s parasitized by a particular hairworm, the hairworm needs it 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.360 to jump into water in order for it to complete 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:16.359 its reproductive cycle. So when the wood cricket is parasitized 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.800 by that brainworm, it merely jumps to its death in 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.639 the service of the parasite. So this is why it's 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:27.320 very important to use the metaphor of parasitic thinking more 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:31.000 than the metaphor of virology. How do you resolve that, Well, 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.760 you resolve it, hopefully by people like me constantly beating 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.240 the drum, standing on top of the mountain and offering 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.239 hopefully better ideas. It's a very, very tough battle, but 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.320 I stand optimistic that we will win. 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.119 We will win eventually, the battle of ideas. 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:53.679 Now, the word woke is used often. Many on the 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.119 left say, nobody knows what it means. It's just something 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.120 that is misused and overused. 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.760 Do you have a definition for work? 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.720 So originally it started if I'm going to be charitable. 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.600 The original term started as you know, being awakened to 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:14.040 you know, progressive social justice, you know, the bad plight 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.919 of people. But of course it has metamorphosized into a 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:22.440 much more nasty virus or parasitic idea, which is all 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.600 things that are related to you know, irrational ideas that 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:30.879 originally respond on campus. So postmodernism, the idea that there 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.639 are no objective truths is the ultimate work idea, because 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:39.120 it is that framework that allows us to state, without 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.520 cracking a smile, that a six foot four guy who 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.399 has a nine inch penis can call himself Linden the 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.959 next day and can suddenly become a woman. If there 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.399 are no objective truths, then we are certainly not bound 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:57.720 to our genitalia. So postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism, all 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.520 of these things, I argue, is what really defines warkness. 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:05.960 And regrettably, every single one of these dreadful ideas rita 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:09.040 originated with professors. 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.679 True, true, and you did warn decades ago that it 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.720 was going to go beyond university campuses, and it certainly 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:21.440 has it's prevalent in workplaces now in the culture. As 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:25.080 we've mentioned, I do like a definition Elon Musk gave 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:25.800 for woke. 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.520 I'll just read that one out. He said, wakeness is. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:33.439 Divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. It basically gives people a shield 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.000 to be mean and cruel, armored in false virtue. And 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.160 I think that's a nice, simple explanation that I think 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.439 applies to most settings. Something else you've been writing and 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:48.360 talking about recently is suicidal empathy. Explain to my audience 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.680 what you mean by that, and again, how that can 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:51.720 manifest itself. 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:53.920 Right, Yeah, thank you. That's a great question. 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.399 That's actually the topic of my next book that I'm 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:57.280 currently working on. 0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.840