Speaker 1: On Scorne Lives Australia. This is the Reader Panalty Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the REATA Panney Show.
Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, a massive program kicking off with the
Speaker 3: Great Douglas Murray.
Speaker 2: Leading behavioral scientist, Professor Gan sad.
Speaker 3: Will be here to define the word woke and how
Speaker 3: to combat it in your workplace and household. Army Horowitz
Speaker 3: on the latest from the US, and later in the hour,
Speaker 3: doctor David Adler on growing concerns about the Albanizi government's
Speaker 3: attitude to Israel and He's losing It. Features a bunch
Speaker 3: of enraged white leftists calling a brown man, Vivet Gramaswami
Speaker 3: racist and telling him he is not welcome in a
Speaker 3: public park.
Speaker 1: You're not welcome.
Speaker 4: Well, the good news is we're in America and so
Speaker 4: we actually get to all express ourselves.
Speaker 5: Express being a racist.
Speaker 6: You get, you get your express being a racist? Zame,
Speaker 6: is that what you get to express?
Speaker 4: I'm from American, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Joining me now.
Speaker 3: Is best selling author of groundbreaking books, including his latest
Speaker 3: The War on the West. Douglas Murray, we finally have
Speaker 3: a Kamala Harris interview today. CNN announced that she will
Speaker 3: be sitting down with Dana Bush, but the interview is
Speaker 3: not live and she will have Tim Walls joining her.
Speaker 3: Can we trust CNN to ask the tough questions and
Speaker 3: also not edit out the word salads we've come to
Speaker 3: expect from Harris.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 7: I think it's a fascinating thing that the Democrat nominee
Speaker 7: for president is actually going to deign to answer any
Speaker 7: questions from the press. Of course, Joe Biden has given
Speaker 7: fewer press conferences during his time in office than any
Speaker 7: president of recent decades, and it looked like Kamala Harris
Speaker 7: was trying to beat him to that, or if no other,
Speaker 7: The fact that she's doing with her running mate Tim
Speaker 7: Wolfs is extraordinarily interesting, and.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why.
Speaker 7: It's for this reason. We don't know any details of
Speaker 7: what Kamala Harris would like to do or intends to
Speaker 7: do if she gets the most important job in the
Speaker 7: world in November.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 7: What her fiscal policies are going to be, what her
Speaker 7: trade policies are going to be, We don't now have
Speaker 7: any detail what her border and immigration policies are going
Speaker 7: to be, and we don't have any knowledge at all
Speaker 7: of what her foreign policy is going to be. And
Speaker 7: the problem of Tim Walls, or indeed Kamala Harris appearing
Speaker 7: with one without the other is that the other may
Speaker 7: say things which their running mate doesn't know or hasn't
Speaker 7: heard about, and that'll be because they're making it up
Speaker 7: on the fly. So if you were to have her
Speaker 7: sit down just with Tim Walls and say, now, look,
Speaker 7: do you agree with everything in Kamala harris foreign policy,
Speaker 7: he might have to reveal the fact that there is
Speaker 7: no foreign policy and might have to just make some
Speaker 7: stuff up. Then of course the press would say to
Speaker 7: her if they ever get a chance to sit down
Speaker 7: with her again, and they say it seems to some
Speaker 7: extent unlikely she does ever want to sit down with
Speaker 7: the media. They would say to her, well, Tim Wall
Speaker 7: said this about your foreign policy, and then she'd have
Speaker 7: to try to make something up on the fly as well.
Speaker 7: So it's very clever of them to decide to sit
Speaker 7: down together because that way they can contradict each other.
Speaker 7: But less.
Speaker 3: Well, there is also this transformation of Harris from a
Speaker 3: staunch lefts to have the most liberal voting record in
Speaker 3: the Senate to this tough law and order pro America figure.
Speaker 3: She's now claiming she doesn't support a fracking band, despite
Speaker 3: in the past saying she'd bring one in on day one.
Speaker 3: She's backing away from electric vehicle Mandaise, and she's suddenly
Speaker 3: in favor of a border wall.
Speaker 2: Douglas, she'd be wearing a mega hat suit.
Speaker 7: It's very insting. Of course, she wouldn't be the first
Speaker 7: politician to promise absolutely everything and say contradictory things in
Speaker 7: the run up to trying to get everyone's vote in November.
Speaker 4: But the interesting thing.
Speaker 7: About Kama Harris is less the contradictions than what basic
Speaker 7: instinct she seems to have had about politics as she's
Speaker 7: expressed them in the past. This claim that she's now
Speaker 7: in favor of a border wall doesn't seem to me
Speaker 7: to be a flip flopping. It does seem to me
Speaker 7: to be absolutely typical election season pandering. But what's more
Speaker 7: interesting is what she said about the border wall any
Speaker 7: time before when she's been questioned about it. I just
Speaker 7: watched back earlier today one of her appearances.
Speaker 1: On The View.
Speaker 7: How can I describe the View to Non America? And
Speaker 7: it's like Britain's Loose Women, but less cerebral it's it's
Speaker 7: like I mean, it's it's a very it's a very unfunny,
Speaker 7: funny light daytime show. And so of course she presented
Speaker 7: herself to these fans of hers on the panel to
Speaker 7: ask her softball questions some years ago. And on that occasion,
Speaker 7: Kama Harris said, in one of those jokes that no
Speaker 7: one else finds a joke, but she finds absolutely hysterical that.
Speaker 7: She says that she's very interested in and has dealt
Speaker 7: with international criminal bodies and in UH and in going
Speaker 7: after those people, she found that interesting thing about international
Speaker 7: groups is they operate internationally. She found that absolutely hysterically
Speaker 7: funny and laughed.
Speaker 1: Like mad for ages.
Speaker 7: But the point is that she said, and she said
Speaker 7: in that interview, said interview, in that softball thing, she
Speaker 7: said the border wall wouldn't stop these Internet national gangs
Speaker 7: and then laughed manically. Well, the thing is is that
Speaker 7: everything she tried to say and that interview was borders
Speaker 7: and walls don't matter, that they don't do anything. Well,
Speaker 7: if that is her view, and it seems to have
Speaker 7: been her view until yesterday, that seems to me to
Speaker 7: be a fairly settled view. She thinks that that doesn't
Speaker 7: really matter if you have a border or a border
Speaker 7: wall because of international things. So I don't really buy
Speaker 7: this late conversion to a wall at all.
Speaker 3: No, I think there must have some sort of internal
Speaker 3: polling that is alarming them, particularly about the big issues
Speaker 3: like illegal immigration in the US.
Speaker 2: So we're seeing this about face.
Speaker 3: Just quickly, I want to ask you about Donald Trump
Speaker 3: winning the endorsement of former Democrat Tulci Gabbart, who famously
Speaker 3: ended Kamala's last run for president. She's also helping him
Speaker 3: prepare for the bit with Harris. How crucial is the
Speaker 3: upcoming debate and who has.
Speaker 2: More to lose?
Speaker 7: Well, of course if the poles, if some of the
Speaker 7: poles are correct, and Karla Harris is ahead, then the
Speaker 7: sense would be that she had more to lose. Tarsi
Speaker 7: Gabbard being brought on board by Trump is very interesting
Speaker 7: because AULD say, Cala Harris has put herself forward for
Speaker 7: so few interviews and so little scrutiny, aside as I
Speaker 7: say from the geniuses of the view that actually Tusi
Speaker 7: Gabbott is is particularly useful because she was running against
Speaker 7: Harris some years ago in the primaries. She's one of
Speaker 7: the few people who's actually been against Harris on a
Speaker 7: stage and demonstrated very effectively how to take Harris down
Speaker 7: by using what we used to call facts. Now, if
Speaker 7: Tulsi Gabbert can can help Trump to find a way through,
Speaker 7: she actually probably the best qualified person to do so,
Speaker 7: as I said, because he's one of the very few
Speaker 7: people who's actually actually gone up against Harris. Otherwise, I mean,
Speaker 7: nobody knows really what to do against him, because just
Speaker 7: no one has had a chance.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the extraordinary rescue of a hostage
Speaker 3: held by Hermas since October seven. Kaid Fahan Alkadi was
Speaker 3: one of eight Arab Bedwin Israeli is abducted on October
Speaker 3: seven and was rescued from a tunnel in what the
Speaker 3: Israeli military are calling a complex operation in the southern
Speaker 3: Gaza Strip. There were joyous scenes as he and his
Speaker 3: family where reunited in hospital. The family were running to
Speaker 3: his bedside after hearing news of his rescue.
Speaker 2: Douglas, those who say Israel is a apartheid.
Speaker 3: State really need to explain to us how the whole
Speaker 3: country is celebrating.
Speaker 2: The rescue of an hour Muslim bed one.
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I mean, it's just wonderful and
Speaker 7: remarkable news. As the months have gone on and on,
Speaker 7: there's been so much fear about the well being or
Speaker 7: even whether the hostages like him are alive. And it's
Speaker 7: so heartening to every is Ready and everyone outside who
Speaker 7: cares about about human life that that this this man
Speaker 7: should have been saved. As you mentioned, I mean, it's
Speaker 7: a bad day for the Israel apartheid lobby because they
Speaker 7: have to explain, as we're seeing in the pictures there,
Speaker 7: how a Muslim Bedouin father can be surrounded by his
Speaker 7: children at his bedside being treated by an Orthodox Jewish
Speaker 7: doctor in this allegedly apartheid state. So so yes, I mean,
Speaker 7: it's it's a it's a wonderful thing in itself, wonderful
Speaker 7: to see him home and reunited with his family. And
Speaker 7: obviously everyone hopes that the rest of the hostages were
Speaker 7: will be able to have the same happy conclusion to
Speaker 7: their appalling treatment by Hamas. But yes, it's a bad
Speaker 7: day for all those people who want to continue to
Speaker 7: lie about Israel and who pretend that the society is
Speaker 7: something that it just isn't. And you know, Israel is
Speaker 7: a society where Muslims, Jews, Christians and others all have
Speaker 7: equal rights, and Hamas, of course, wants to take away
Speaker 7: every one of those rights and has done everything it
Speaker 7: can to do so.
Speaker 3: And we saw in some of that footage him taking
Speaker 3: a call from Benjamin Nishan Yahoo whilst on his hospital beds.
Speaker 3: So some rare good news in that region today. Now
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Kirstama. He's still railing
Speaker 3: against what he calls right wing extremism.
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.
Speaker 8: A mindless minority of thugs who thought that they could
Speaker 8: get away with causing chaos, smashing up unities and terrifying minorities,
Speaker 8: vandalizing and destroying people's property.
Speaker 3: But Douglas, we've seem to have heard very little condemnation
Speaker 3: of the lawlessness and violence in the notting Hill carnival
Speaker 3: that just took place. There were three hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: four arrests, eight people stabbed, and the media too were
Speaker 3: it pains to paint this mayhem as mostly peaceful and
Speaker 3: enjoyable day. Have a quick look at this clip from
Speaker 3: sky News UK.
Speaker 9: And they said a man believed to be in his
Speaker 9: twenties has been stabbed.
Speaker 3: His injuries are not life threatening, but overall it's been
Speaker 3: a really peaceful and enjoyable date. Douglas, this is not
Speaker 3: the first time there has been trouble at the notting
Speaker 3: Hill Carnival, but I'm perplexed not much condemnation from the
Speaker 3: political class, and even the authorities, though they've made a
Speaker 3: lot of arrests, aren't exactly naming and shaming the those
Speaker 3: who have been charged with offenses.
Speaker 7: No, I mean, I mean, there's only one rate way
Speaker 7: to really understand this and this astonishing double standard, which
Speaker 7: is the notting Hill Carnival is one of the holy
Speaker 7: days of diversity obsessed to Britain, and you're not allowed
Speaker 7: to in any way insult or blaspheme the holy places
Speaker 7: on this holiest of days. The notting Hill Carnival every
Speaker 7: year has stabbings and break ins and outbreaks of lawlessness,
Speaker 7: and police officers are molested by so called carnival goers
Speaker 7: and the police just stand around and get molested. And
Speaker 7: it happened again this year. If, of course, I mean,
Speaker 7: if this was a non holy day in the diversity
Speaker 7: calendar and it was white working class people who have
Speaker 7: of course all far right racists. Now, of course, if
Speaker 7: it was white working class people, it would be a
Speaker 7: totally different story. But this is one of the great
Speaker 7: holy days of diversity, and so the Sky News went
Speaker 7: there in the same way that CNN famously did during
Speaker 7: the George Floyd riots, into the area of mostly peaceful,
Speaker 7: violent protests, you know, and the city behind you can
Speaker 7: be burning down, but it's mostly peaceful burning down. And
Speaker 7: on this occasion, you know, yes, a parent was stabbed
Speaker 7: pushing their child in a pram, but it was a
Speaker 7: mostly peaceful stabbing, you see, because it was all about diversity,
Speaker 7: and as we all know, diversity is our strength.
Speaker 3: Always. Before you go, I want to ask you about
Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg. He's admitted that Meta, that's Facebook and Instagram
Speaker 3: were pressured by the Biden Harris administration to censor COVID
Speaker 3: nineteen content that they wrongly claimed was disinformation. The timing
Speaker 3: of all this is very interesting. What do you make
Speaker 3: of Zuckerberg's about face yet, because it seemed to be
Speaker 3: quite happy with the censorship and the suppression of news.
Speaker 3: But is he perhaps fearing a second Trump term and
Speaker 3: what that could mean for Meta?
Speaker 7: It's interesting. I mean, it's one of those sort of
Speaker 7: stories where it's sort of years later, after everyone knew something,
Speaker 7: somebody admits that the thing everyone else knew was true.
Speaker 7: I mean, everybody saw in real time what happened with
Speaker 7: Facebook and other platforms in relation to COVID misinformation. Of course,
Speaker 7: misinformation and disinformation turned out only to be things that
Speaker 7: you know, weren't wanted to be uttered on social media
Speaker 7: by the governments. It was an extraordinary overreach, as it
Speaker 7: was in the case of the hunter Biden's story, which
Speaker 7: Mark Zuckerberg also mentioned, his platforms have been told not
Speaker 7: to run because it was disinformation. Only for us, you know, all,
Speaker 7: to find out very surely after was actually it's far
Speaker 7: from disinformation. The laptop was true. The New York Post
Speaker 7: knew that anyone reading The New York Post knew that
Speaker 7: Mark Zuckerberg and his clever you know, employees of Facebook
Speaker 7: and things, however, didn't seem to know that. But they've
Speaker 7: realized it four years later, RITA. So I'd imagine we
Speaker 7: can look forward to sometime in twenty twenty seven or
Speaker 7: twenty twenty eight, Mark Zuckerberg telling us that, for instance,
Speaker 7: Joe Biden wasn't an entirely fit candidate to run for
Speaker 7: a second term as president. And they've just realized it
Speaker 7: and they're sorry that they helped cover up and say
Speaker 7: that all that stuff was fake news. It turns out
Speaker 7: actually the news was true, but thank you for the apology.
Speaker 7: Four years later, we can look forward to this. It
Speaker 7: is only only about you know, only the greatest social
Speaker 7: media platforms in the planet, zinging information to us at
Speaker 7: the press.
Speaker 1: Of a button.
Speaker 7: Only they can be found to have about a four
Speaker 7: year wait time to catch up with everyone else's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I just thank god they're not in any
Speaker 3: way political, particularly Meta. It's not like the Zuckerberger donated
Speaker 3: four hundred million dollars of his own money in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty to help fortify that election. Douglas Murray, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for your time this evening great pleasure.
Speaker 7: As always, reta thank you.
Speaker 3: Now more on big tech and the crucial role it
Speaker 3: plays in promoting or suppressing free speech. Facebook's pair and
Speaker 3: company Meta is one of the worst offenders in censoring
Speaker 3: and suppressing Conservatives. You can rail against white people, Western civilization,
Speaker 3: and Christianity, but if you take a negative view on
Speaker 3: DEI policies, cultural Marxism, socialism, then you may find yourself censored.
Speaker 3: But these radical ideas are on the rise again, and
Speaker 3: as Professor Gad Sad rights on X, we need to
Speaker 3: combat them. Socialism communism appeal to many people because on
Speaker 3: the surface it seems so fair, compassionate, and kind. Of course,
Speaker 3: once you are able to think beyond that of a
Speaker 3: five year old, you realize that it is the antithesis
Speaker 3: of fairness, compassion, and kindness. It is contrary to human nature,
Speaker 3: and hence it is always doomed to fail. But like
Speaker 3: the proverbial phoenix, it rises from the ashes to parasitize
Speaker 3: a new generation of imbeciles. Doctor Gad Sad, visiting Professor
Speaker 3: and global Ambassador of Northwood University and esteemed evolutionary behavioral scientists,
Speaker 3: joins me.
Speaker 2: Now, doctor Sad.
Speaker 3: The cultural Marxists seem to be winning the ideological debate.
Speaker 3: They dominate academia, and now their influence has spread well
Speaker 3: beyond college campuses.
Speaker 10: Well, this is one of the things that frustrates me
Speaker 10: so much, because when I began warning people nearly three
Speaker 10: decades ago that these dreadful idea ideas we're festering on
Speaker 10: university campuses, people would say to me, exactly to your point, retail. Oh,
Speaker 10: but don't worry, this is just in some esoteric department
Speaker 10: and the humanities. But then, of course I warned them
Speaker 10: that it starts off in an esoteric department in the humanities,
Speaker 10: but eventually it becomes our Prime Minister of Canada, it
Speaker 10: becomes our journalists, it becomes our popular culture. And so
Speaker 10: the virus has escaped, and now it has infected us.
Speaker 3: All it has escaped. It is prevalent, certainly in media.
Speaker 2: In the culture.
Speaker 3: You look at what Hollywood's producing, what the celebrity class promote.
Speaker 2: Is there a cue for attack?
Speaker 3: Can we combat something that seems to have spread far
Speaker 3: and wide? Though I would argue the overwhelming majority of
Speaker 3: people are still not infected. They still can see the
Speaker 3: difference between the work insanity and just common sense rational views.
Speaker 10: Well, in the parasitic mind, I do offer an inoculation
Speaker 10: against a sort of mind vaccine against all of these
Speaker 10: parasitic ideas.
Speaker 1: But let me give you one.
Speaker 10: Recent instantiation of this type of parasitic thinking. So, for example,
Speaker 10: now we see Kamala Harris that has been coordinated, as
Speaker 10: you know, Empress of the World. And the reason why
Speaker 10: she is resonating so well, because she has hijacked people's
Speaker 10: emotional systems. Right, It's about positive vibes, it's about joy,
Speaker 10: it's about excitement, it's about fun. And so that's a
Speaker 10: form of parasitic thinking, when you allow your emotional system
Speaker 10: to take over your cognitive system. Emotions are wonderful. If
Speaker 10: I'm going down the dark alley and I experience fear
Speaker 10: because I see three young men loitering, it is perfectly
Speaker 10: evolutionary irrelevant for me to feel fear. But if I'm
Speaker 10: choosing the leader of the free world, I probably should
Speaker 10: not be basing it on positive vibes and fun. And
Speaker 10: so at times I feel very pessimistic about the flight
Speaker 10: of our society. But then if I weren't somewhat optimistic,
Speaker 10: I wouldn't be able to get out of bed.
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned your best selling book, The Parasitic Mind.
Speaker 3: How infectious ideas are killing common sense? Elon Musk said
Speaker 3: his son was killed by the work mind virus. His
Speaker 3: son now identifies as a girl and has a transitioned.
Speaker 2: Explain how you wokeness is a virus.
Speaker 3: And if you've got someone within the family, if you've
Speaker 3: got workness in the workplace, how can you.
Speaker 2: Deal with that, how.
Speaker 3: Can you help people return to common sense.
Speaker 10: Well, I actually the reason why I use the term
Speaker 10: parasitic rather than just virus is because it actually kills
Speaker 10: the host in the service of the parasite. So let
Speaker 10: me give you an analogy before I answer fully your question.
Speaker 10: So you take, for example, the wood cricket, which is
Speaker 10: an actual cricket that abhors water. But when it is
Speaker 10: s parasitized by a particular hairworm, the hairworm needs it
Speaker 10: to jump into water in order for it to complete
Speaker 10: its reproductive cycle. So when the wood cricket is parasitized
Speaker 10: by that brainworm, it merely jumps to its death in
Speaker 10: the service of the parasite. So this is why it's
Speaker 10: very important to use the metaphor of parasitic thinking more
Speaker 10: than the metaphor of virology. How do you resolve that, Well,
Speaker 10: you resolve it, hopefully by people like me constantly beating
Speaker 10: the drum, standing on top of the mountain and offering
Speaker 10: hopefully better ideas. It's a very, very tough battle, but
Speaker 10: I stand optimistic that we will win.
Speaker 1: We will win eventually, the battle of ideas.
Speaker 3: Now, the word woke is used often. Many on the
Speaker 3: left say, nobody knows what it means. It's just something
Speaker 3: that is misused and overused.
Speaker 2: Do you have a definition for work?
Speaker 10: So originally it started if I'm going to be charitable.
Speaker 10: The original term started as you know, being awakened to
Speaker 10: you know, progressive social justice, you know, the bad plight
Speaker 10: of people. But of course it has metamorphosized into a
Speaker 10: much more nasty virus or parasitic idea, which is all
Speaker 10: things that are related to you know, irrational ideas that
Speaker 10: originally respond on campus. So postmodernism, the idea that there
Speaker 10: are no objective truths is the ultimate work idea, because
Speaker 10: it is that framework that allows us to state, without
Speaker 10: cracking a smile, that a six foot four guy who
Speaker 10: has a nine inch penis can call himself Linden the
Speaker 10: next day and can suddenly become a woman. If there
Speaker 10: are no objective truths, then we are certainly not bound
Speaker 10: to our genitalia. So postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism, all
Speaker 10: of these things, I argue, is what really defines warkness.
Speaker 10: And regrettably, every single one of these dreadful ideas rita
Speaker 10: originated with professors.
Speaker 3: True, true, and you did warn decades ago that it
Speaker 3: was going to go beyond university campuses, and it certainly
Speaker 3: has it's prevalent in workplaces now in the culture. As
Speaker 3: we've mentioned, I do like a definition Elon Musk gave
Speaker 3: for woke.
Speaker 2: I'll just read that one out. He said, wakeness is.
Speaker 3: Divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. It basically gives people a shield
Speaker 3: to be mean and cruel, armored in false virtue. And
Speaker 3: I think that's a nice, simple explanation that I think
Speaker 3: applies to most settings. Something else you've been writing and
Speaker 3: talking about recently is suicidal empathy. Explain to my audience
Speaker 3: what you mean by that, and again, how that can
Speaker 3: manifest itself.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, thank you. That's a great question.
Speaker 10: That's actually the topic of my next book that I'm
Speaker 10: currently working on.
Speaker 1: So, look, empathy is a normal virtue.
Speaker 10: Our emotional system has evolved to solve important evolutionary problems.
Speaker 10: But the problem arises when it misfires. So take for example,
Speaker 10: obsessive compulsive disorder. Right, Obsessive compulsive disorder is a misfiring
Speaker 10: of an otherwise adaptive process. For me to wash my
Speaker 10: hands because I shook the hand of someone that sneezed
Speaker 10: in his hand makes perfect evolutionary sense. But if I
Speaker 10: spend the next eight hours washing my hands, it becomes dysfunctional.
Speaker 10: So same thing applies for empathy within a certain functional zone.
Speaker 10: To be empathetic makes sense when it misfires, when it
Speaker 10: becomes hyperactive, when it targets the wrong individuals. Right when
Speaker 10: you start caring more about illegal migrants than you do
Speaker 10: about your own veterans who served in protecting your country.
Speaker 10: When you care more about homeless people who are doing
Speaker 10: drugs in the park rather than the children who play
Speaker 10: in those parts, that's what I call suicidal empathy.
Speaker 1: When you are so kind hearted.
Speaker 10: And progressive that you allow millions of people into your
Speaker 10: country that don't share any of the foundational values that
Speaker 10: define your host society, that becomes suicidal empathy. So when
Speaker 10: you take parasitic thinking, the topic of my earlier book,
Speaker 10: and you couple it with suicidal empathy, you have the
Speaker 10: perfect cocktail for the end of the West.
Speaker 2: Yes we are.
Speaker 3: We're in a civilizational war, aren't we, and the anti
Speaker 3: West forces seem to be winning.
Speaker 2: Before you go.
Speaker 3: You are in Canada, you mentioned your Prime Minister Justin
Speaker 3: Trudeau has been a poster child for the parasitic mind
Speaker 3: the woke neo Marxists.
Speaker 2: What state is the country in?
Speaker 3: And have Canadians finally tied of Trudeau's performative caring routine.
Speaker 3: Have they've finally woken up to the fact that he
Speaker 3: hasn't actually been fantastic for the country.
Speaker 10: Well, they seem to have tired of him, and yet
Speaker 10: they found a way to elect him on three occasions.
Speaker 10: But I can answer you on a personal level, I'm
Speaker 10: so tired of him that that's precisely why I've taken
Speaker 10: this visiting professorship and global ambassadorship at Northwood University in Michigan.
Speaker 10: Precisely because I needed to put a pause button on
Speaker 10: all the walk.
Speaker 1: Craziness that's taking place in Canada.
Speaker 2: Well, you've got.
Speaker 3: An election coming up next year, so best of luck.
Speaker 3: Doctor Gad said, thank you so much for your tom
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to have you.
Speaker 2: On the program.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Cheers and still to come.
Speaker 3: Lefty's losing it and Donald Trump's support among minority voters
Speaker 3: is growing even stronger.
Speaker 2: I'm in Horowitz is up next. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it And watch this
Speaker 3: Lefty and n Israeli protested tell vivic Ramaswami that he
Speaker 3: has no right to be at Union Park and watch
Speaker 3: the response.
Speaker 6: You have no right to be here if you're not
Speaker 6: in support of the Palestinian people.
Speaker 5: Well, I think you're not going to call.
Speaker 1: Here's what I worry. You have the right to be
Speaker 1: you're not going to call.
Speaker 5: So do we return to the genocide.
Speaker 3: And it ends with the killing, yes, and and.
Speaker 5: The support of Israel, then you should take off.
Speaker 1: We don't want you here.
Speaker 5: You're not welcome here.
Speaker 4: Well, the good news is we're in America and so
Speaker 4: we actually get to all express ourselves.
Speaker 5: Express being a racist.
Speaker 6: You get you get to your express being a racist
Speaker 6: zion I think is that what you get to express?
Speaker 7: I'm from America.
Speaker 4: Right to speak when you're right to speak your mind?
Speaker 2: Racist, racist, astonishing.
Speaker 3: You have a bunch of white far left clowns calling
Speaker 3: a brown man a racist and a Zionist pig and
Speaker 3: telling him he has no right to be in a
Speaker 3: public park.
Speaker 2: That's the modern left for you, folks. Now Here is
Speaker 2: reason six thousand, eight.
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty four why I do not use public transport.
Speaker 3: Watch this man being berated by racist woman enraged that
Speaker 3: he would dare ask her to stop putting her dirty
Speaker 3: shoes on his seat and clothing, being.
Speaker 9: Quiet when you're talking and touch Megan of slupy you
Speaker 9: you're an idiot. That's why you're not married.
Speaker 4: Idiots stupid.
Speaker 9: Nice trust me, you don't even love you? Touch me again?
Speaker 7: Snappy?
Speaker 2: Well well, well that didn't go as she planned.
Speaker 3: Not did he call her out for her rudeness, but
Speaker 3: her attempt to sham him for not having a woman
Speaker 3: also packfired.
Speaker 2: But as you heard, she only just doubled down.
Speaker 3: Let's see how this progresses and whether this dude manages
Speaker 3: to maintain his call.
Speaker 9: Your wife is where I'm from. I know you know
Speaker 9: at you know that.
Speaker 5: S so now you know what it's like.
Speaker 9: You know you're My f is literally by you.
Speaker 3: I'm literally grubbing you.
Speaker 5: Do you know you understand? Complete? Complete?
Speaker 2: Oh dear, you know what's coming next? Yep? The race card.
Speaker 3: She films him, hoping to shame him for being a
Speaker 3: hostile white male, but sadly for her, the whole thing
Speaker 3: was captured by other passengers.
Speaker 4: So I go in the train of this white media
Speaker 4: racious as well.
Speaker 5: Now I love.
Speaker 9: It being quiet when you're talking, Megan.
Speaker 2: Stop you now.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has put out another ad, and again the
Speaker 3: entire thing consists of Kamala Harris damning herself with her
Speaker 3: own words.
Speaker 1: I'm Donald J. Trump and I approved this message.
Speaker 11: Everyday prices are too high, food, rent, gas, back to
Speaker 11: school clothes. That is calmed bidynamics. I look, bread cost
Speaker 11: fifty percent more today, round beef is up almost fifty percent.
Speaker 11: There is not much left at the end of the month.
Speaker 11: Fimics is working. The price of housing has gone up.
Speaker 11: It feels so hard to just be able to get ahead.
Speaker 1: And we are very proud of aidynamics.
Speaker 3: Now here's another reason to mock the fake news peddlers
Speaker 3: of MSNBC. Let's take a minute now and hold Joe
Speaker 3: Scarborough accountable for this mad rant in twenty twenty where
Speaker 3: he claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop story was fake
Speaker 3: and Russian misinformation.
Speaker 2: And of course we know the laptop was real.
Speaker 3: We knew it then, we know it now, and the
Speaker 3: data on it, from the Biden family's dodgy business dealings
Speaker 3: to Hunters drug fueled hormongering, that.
Speaker 2: Was all real as well.
Speaker 3: But watching marvel at Scarborough's showing you why you should
Speaker 3: never trust MSNBC.
Speaker 12: That even The New York Post knew was a lie.
Speaker 12: They publish a series of lies peddled them by Rudy Giuliani,
Speaker 12: who admitted that nobody else would take it but.
Speaker 4: Rupert Murdox New York Post.
Speaker 12: Because they might look into it and tell the truth.
Speaker 12: Here we are in twenty twenty. This is why it's
Speaker 12: come down to America. Juliani is feeding Russian misinformation to
Speaker 12: Donald Trump and read it. It's feeding Russian disinformation to
Speaker 12: the New York Post.
Speaker 1: They know it's a lie. Yeah, that's where we are
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 12: Just to let you know that they're still talking to Russians.
Speaker 12: And by the way, Russian hoax come on, really, so
Speaker 12: history will expose you all as fools and useful idiots
Speaker 12: for the Russians.
Speaker 3: History will expose you all as idiots and useful fools.
Speaker 2: For the Russians. That's what he said.
Speaker 3: Four years later, it's Scarborough who is exposed as.
Speaker 2: The ultimate idiot and fool. And we have.
Speaker 3: Plenty more lefties in the media disgracing themselves in this segment.
Speaker 3: Here is veteran PBS host Judy Woodruff warning of misinformation
Speaker 3: before spreading misinformation, an absolute falsehood which she seems to
Speaker 3: have made up. This is your taxes at workfolks.
Speaker 13: Candidates are facing an historic challenge, an unprecedented scale and
Speaker 13: variety of disinformation online. Former President Trump is on the
Speaker 13: phone with the Prime Minister of Israel urging him not
Speaker 13: to cut a deal right now because that is it's
Speaker 13: believed that would help Sahara's campaign.
Speaker 3: Now, not only did she spread that lie last week
Speaker 3: to damage Trump, but she then blame what is and
Speaker 3: Axious for leading her astray with their reporting. But neither
Speaker 3: atlet had reported anything of the sort. Joining me now
Speaker 3: is journalists and documentary filmmaker Army Horo.
Speaker 2: It's Army.
Speaker 3: You think such a consequential lie might see someone I
Speaker 3: don't know sacked or at least demoted, But not at PBS.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not at PBS or Frankly, I mean you could
Speaker 4: make that. You can do that same video clip with
Speaker 4: tons of different people in the mainstream media. Frankly, Look,
Speaker 4: I think that this comes back to this really interesting
Speaker 4: email and this really interesting perspective. Mark Zuckerberg, the head
Speaker 4: of Meta, when he was talking about the pressure that
Speaker 4: he faced from the government to push back on misinformation
Speaker 4: and then disinformation. Now, using these two words have even
Speaker 4: rita if I can say a thing about your what
Speaker 4: you just did, you made a classic mistake. Okay, you
Speaker 4: are also used the word misinformation when actually Woodrif use
Speaker 4: the word disinformation. This is a really important point because
Speaker 4: the word the media has been using is disinformation. Let
Speaker 4: me explain the difference between the two, because they are very,
Speaker 4: very different, and it means a lot. Misinformation is simply
Speaker 4: giving the wrong information, no more, no less, just you
Speaker 4: were wrong. Disinformation is using giving also information to push
Speaker 4: a certain objective. Right now, that's the difference. The media
Speaker 4: is in fact using the word disinformation. They're saying there's
Speaker 4: some kind of agenda, some kind of insidious move behind
Speaker 4: the people let's talk about COVID, who were giving information
Speaker 4: about COVID. Some was wrong, some were right, by the
Speaker 4: way right, And I think that difference means everything. And
Speaker 4: they're pushing this weird agenda. There's a concerted effort to
Speaker 4: push a certain agenda forward.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: I think that's a really important distinction to make because
Speaker 4: that's how the media has been covering this. I'll give
Speaker 4: you a little bit of personal information on what happened
Speaker 4: to me. When it came to Facebook, I put out
Speaker 4: a post. All I did in this post this is
Speaker 4: during the COVID at the tail end of COVID. All
Speaker 4: I did in this post was we post a John
Speaker 4: Hopkins John I's a well known university in America, well
Speaker 4: respected a paper that they did talking about how the
Speaker 4: lockdowns had no real difference immortality rate. Right, it had
Speaker 4: massive social economic consequences, yet we didn't save lives by
Speaker 4: doing it. Only those repost that article and then I'm
Speaker 4: sorry that that study. And then USA Today had an
Speaker 4: entire article lambasting me and my Facebook post. This is
Speaker 4: prior to my Facebook post getting demoted. It's actually a
Speaker 4: quite popular Facebook. And then when they this article came out,
Speaker 4: I also found out then Facebook then demoted me, and
Speaker 4: they quoted USA Today saying, well, they're one of our
Speaker 4: resources that we use for fact checking, so therefore we're
Speaker 4: going to shut down your Facebook. Can That's how insidious
Speaker 4: this entire thing was and now looked a little too late.
Speaker 4: When it comes to Zuckerberg, giving is me a couple
Speaker 4: but he has And by the way, I'll point out
Speaker 4: one last thing. I think Zuckerberg is having some kind
Speaker 4: of bit of a transformation in terms of politics. Not
Speaker 4: saying he's becoming a Republican, but he's definitely not as
Speaker 4: a lie in the Democratic parties we thought he was.
Speaker 3: I I am not buying it one second, Army. I
Speaker 3: think he can just see the changes coming. There's going
Speaker 3: to be a second Donald Trump term most likely. And
Speaker 3: he's been complicit in this censorship suppression, and I think
Speaker 3: he's been an enthusiastic facilitator. I don't think he was
Speaker 3: pressured to do this and to come out now years
Speaker 3: later and tell us what we already knew was happening,
Speaker 3: confirming it, not buying it for a second. But to me,
Speaker 3: disinformation misinformation I use those words interchangeable because all the
Speaker 3: misinformation is disinformation. It's not just that they make an
Speaker 3: innocent mistake, because all the innocent mistakes.
Speaker 2: Seem to be in the one direction.
Speaker 3: So it's always these mistakes that are made to push
Speaker 3: a certain agenda. So to me, the misinformation is almost
Speaker 3: always also disinformation. Now I want to play you a
Speaker 3: little clip of Donald Trump and Virginia Senate candidate Hong Cow.
Speaker 3: They visited the Vietnamese community in Falls Church, and it
Speaker 3: was a bit of a love in.
Speaker 4: Vietnamese community loves me and I love them.
Speaker 3: I mean, long, long ago, the Democrats took all these
Speaker 3: different minority communities for granted. They just presumed the bulk
Speaker 3: of minorities would back them.
Speaker 2: Those days are over.
Speaker 3: We've seen that with the Hispanic community, many segments of
Speaker 3: the Asian community. Is this a change that is going
Speaker 3: to turn the polls. I don't think there's been enough
Speaker 3: analysis on how minorities are going to vote in this election.
Speaker 4: It's interesting, well, the second of the Vidmese community specifically
Speaker 4: before I talk about the Asia community writ large, but
Speaker 4: the vineam Is happens to have always voted more Republican
Speaker 4: and the rest Asian community over fifty percent historically. When
Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen the Asian community has voted it surprisingly
Speaker 4: only eighteen percent voted Republican twenty sixteen. Now in only
Speaker 4: eight years, sorry, in only four years, in twenty twenty right,
Speaker 4: four years later, this might have been the most massive
Speaker 4: turnaround in the history of minorities. So there's been a
Speaker 4: significant change in the Asian community. I think it's going
Speaker 4: to make a massive difference. What's interesting is now, why, right,
Speaker 4: why are we seeing this change now? I think there
Speaker 4: are very specific reasons. First of all, I think they
Speaker 4: happen to be in California, in New York where there's
Speaker 4: extremely high crime rates, particularly the Bay Area. They've noticed,
Speaker 4: they've seen where the crime is coming from, who is
Speaker 4: abetting the crime, and who is making excuses for the crime.
Speaker 4: I eat the Left. I think another important data point
Speaker 4: is this the whole idea of the hatred of the
Speaker 4: left and its hatred of success. Asian community is a
Speaker 4: symbol of success in our country. They are on the
Speaker 4: highest earners in our country. They are a successful minority.
Speaker 4: I think they don't like being demonized for the success.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, particularly when it comes to college admissions and
Speaker 4: even high school admissions. Right there has been a concerted
Speaker 4: effort to demote Asians from success, from successful placement in
Speaker 4: successful high schools, elementary schools, and certainly colleges. Famously, Harvard
Speaker 4: has specifically tried to stop Asians from coming in. They're
Speaker 4: the only minority with a negative coefficient at Harvard. In
Speaker 4: other words, the only minority that being a minority has
Speaker 4: actually harmed them, not helped them outside the Jewish community.
Speaker 4: And this has not gone unnoticed.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they are damaged.
Speaker 3: I think the Asian community has learned these DEI policies
Speaker 3: that are supposed to help minorities actually damage them. As
Speaker 3: you mentioned with Harvard and some of these Ivy League colleges,
Speaker 3: for an Asian student to gain admission, they have to
Speaker 3: do so much better than just about every other demographic.
Speaker 3: Hispanic students, black students, even the white students. They are
Speaker 3: discriminated against that much because they're studios. They study, and
Speaker 3: they record good results, and of course you've got to
Speaker 3: be punished for that now before you go. Democrat Congresswoman
Speaker 3: Rashida Talib shared this clip of John Stewart criticizing the
Speaker 3: DNC for not having Palestinian voices at the event.
Speaker 2: Have a look at the clip.
Speaker 4: They had Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Gay Americans,
Speaker 4: Jewish Americans, Palestinian Well, oh, to be fair, it was
Speaker 4: only four nights, eight hours a night.
Speaker 1: But really it's.
Speaker 10: Best not to think about the consequences of our actions
Speaker 10: over there.
Speaker 2: Amie, what's your response to that?
Speaker 4: That is highly disappointing. Obviously, John Stewart a Democratic supporter
Speaker 4: but also a prominent Jewish person who has support Israel
Speaker 4: in the past. The consequences of what we're doing there, Rita. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's highly disturbing. The idea that the consequence of what
Speaker 4: we're doing there, Rita is helping Israel defend itself from
Speaker 4: a terrorist regime. That the consequences of what we're doing there,
Speaker 4: for him to spin that as a negative is really disturbing, upsetting.
Speaker 1: Don't like to see that.
Speaker 4: And frankly, I think of Rasha Talaeib is amplifying your voice.
Speaker 4: I think you have to look in the mirror say
Speaker 4: maybe I'm going down the wrong road here.
Speaker 2: That is very good advice there.
Speaker 3: If you're on the same page as her and the
Speaker 3: rest of the squad, you need to reassess your life choices.
Speaker 3: Me Horowitz, thank you so much for your time this
Speaker 3: evening and still to come. Student activists at Monash University
Speaker 3: demand reparations from Israel.
Speaker 14: Doctor David Edler joins me, you're watching.
Speaker 2: The Rita Panehy show.
Speaker 3: Just a few weeks after Marine Ferruki refuse to condemn
Speaker 3: terrorist group. Hamas, the Green's Deputy leader, will be part
Speaker 3: of a Senate committee into anti Semitism at Australian universities.
Speaker 10: Does Hamas need to be dismantled.
Speaker 2: The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go.
Speaker 1: So if they choose Hamas, that's okay.
Speaker 7: And what can I say?
Speaker 15: I should have been dismantled.
Speaker 13: Hamas is an organization that exists in the.
Speaker 4: Regeneral You're able to say where you'd like to see
Speaker 4: them go on.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not up to Mitch.
Speaker 3: She has also previously accused the Coalition of and I quote,
Speaker 3: trying to weaponize anti Semitism to attack those who are
Speaker 3: standing up to Israel's genocide in Gaza. So is she
Speaker 3: on this committee to further her own anti Israel agenda
Speaker 3: to downplay the rise of anti Semitism. Let's ask my
Speaker 3: next guest, doctor David Adler, President of the Australian Jewish Association,
Speaker 3: Doctor Adler, how is the Jewish community reacting to this development?
Speaker 12: Rita?
Speaker 15: I think that it's universally seen as quite an absurd,
Speaker 15: bizarre appointment. You'd be hard pressed to find a less
Speaker 15: suitable candidate in Australian Parliament for this particular role. She
Speaker 15: has a dreadful track record, as do the Greens generally.
Speaker 15: By the way, they are the only political party in
Speaker 15: this country which has, for example, rejected the gold standard
Speaker 15: definition of anti Semitism, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition.
Speaker 15: But Marine Ferruki is a radical activist in this space.
Speaker 15: I mean, we have pictures of her wearing a kafir
Speaker 15: with a revolutionary fist in the air. We have pictures
Speaker 15: off her associating with some of the most radical activists,
Speaker 15: including a couple that have been charged with serious criminal offenses.
Speaker 15: So maybe this is an attempt to sabotage the role
Speaker 15: of the committee. Who knows.
Speaker 3: Now the student Council at Monash University has called a
Speaker 3: general meet and to discuss whether to support an immediate
Speaker 3: and just enter Israel's war in Gaza. I'm sure Benjamin Nettaya,
Speaker 3: who's just waiting with bated breath to see what these
Speaker 3: activist students are thinking. The students want a permanent withdrawal
Speaker 3: of Israeli troops and enter what they call eighteen year
Speaker 3: long blockade and reparations to be paid for the reconstruction
Speaker 3: of Gaza. They also want to call upon the university
Speaker 3: to reveal and cut all ties with companies and institute
Speaker 3: involved in the development and manufacturing of weapons used by
Speaker 3: the IDF. Now we had a similar meeting at University
Speaker 3: of Sydney earlier in the month, and that descended into
Speaker 3: utter chaos. You had the pro Israeli speakers abused, spat
Speaker 3: on and remarkably at Sydney UNI, they're students voted not
Speaker 3: to condemn her mass. Are we going to see similar
Speaker 3: scenes admnash?
Speaker 15: Look, it's an interesting question. They've actually introduced in their
Speaker 15: procedures a strategy which might prevent the disruption, because in
Speaker 15: order to attend this particular meeting, a student needs to
Speaker 15: pre register. So this may be a tactic to keep
Speaker 15: away the Jewish students in the university. I mean, who
Speaker 15: would want to hand over their details to the leaders
Speaker 15: who are pushing this activism. I wonder whether the student
Speaker 15: organization there knows that their university is named after a
Speaker 15: very prominent Australian Jew, Sir John Monash, arguably one of
Speaker 15: Australia's best ever military leaders and doctor Adler.
Speaker 3: I would not give them ideas because the next campaign
Speaker 3: will be to rename Monash University and then everything else
Speaker 3: that's named Monash in this city, of.
Speaker 2: Which there is quite a lot.
Speaker 3: Before you go, just quickly, Foreign Minister Penny Wong has
Speaker 3: urged the Middle East to de escalate its tensions. She's tweeted,
Speaker 3: Australia is gravely concerned at the prospect of escalation in
Speaker 3: the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Further hostility has put.
Speaker 3: Tens of thousands of civilians in Lebanon and Israel at risk.
Speaker 3: We urge all involved actors to exercise restraint and de escalate.
Speaker 3: But it's notable there she doesn't mention terrorist organizations like Hezbulla,
Speaker 3: who seemed to be behind the escalation. I've only got
Speaker 3: thirty seconds. How has Penny Wong handled her portfolio when
Speaker 3: it comes to the Middle East?
Speaker 15: On this issue, She's been possibly our worst ever foreign minister.
Speaker 15: And you've nailed the context. There was intelligence that the
Speaker 15: US and Israel had that Hesbola was about to launch
Speaker 15: anywhere from one thousand to six thousand rockets and new
Speaker 15: avs Israel struck, and so to make that sort of
Speaker 15: outrageous statement without any reference at all to the cause
Speaker 15: is not fulfilling the sort of leadership duty we expect
Speaker 15: of our politicians.
Speaker 2: Well, sir, doctor David Adlai, thank you for your time.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight. I'll see
Speaker 2: you at eleven tomorrow,