1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: On Scorne Lives Australia. This is the Reader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the REATA Panney Show. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, a massive program kicking off with the 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: Great Douglas Murray. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: Leading behavioral scientist, Professor Gan sad. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: Will be here to define the word woke and how 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: to combat it in your workplace and household. Army Horowitz 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: on the latest from the US, and later in the hour, 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: doctor David Adler on growing concerns about the Albanizi government's 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: attitude to Israel and He's losing It. Features a bunch 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: of enraged white leftists calling a brown man, Vivet Gramaswami 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: racist and telling him he is not welcome in a 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: public park. 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: You're not welcome. 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: Well, the good news is we're in America and so 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: we actually get to all express ourselves. 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 5: Express being a racist. 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 6: You get, you get your express being a racist? Zame, 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 6: is that what you get to express? 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: I'm from American, but I'm. 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: Joining me now. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: Is best selling author of groundbreaking books, including his latest 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: The War on the West. Douglas Murray, we finally have 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: a Kamala Harris interview today. CNN announced that she will 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: be sitting down with Dana Bush, but the interview is 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: not live and she will have Tim Walls joining her. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: Can we trust CNN to ask the tough questions and 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: also not edit out the word salads we've come to 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: expect from Harris. 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: We'll see. 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 7: I think it's a fascinating thing that the Democrat nominee 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 7: for president is actually going to deign to answer any 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 7: questions from the press. Of course, Joe Biden has given 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 7: fewer press conferences during his time in office than any 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 7: president of recent decades, and it looked like Kamala Harris 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 7: was trying to beat him to that, or if no other, 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 7: The fact that she's doing with her running mate Tim 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 7: Wolfs is extraordinarily interesting, and. 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 7: It's for this reason. We don't know any details of 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 7: what Kamala Harris would like to do or intends to 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 7: do if she gets the most important job in the 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 7: world in November. 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: We don't know. 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 7: What her fiscal policies are going to be, what her 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 7: trade policies are going to be, We don't now have 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 7: any detail what her border and immigration policies are going 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 7: to be, and we don't have any knowledge at all 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 7: of what her foreign policy is going to be. And 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 7: the problem of Tim Walls, or indeed Kamala Harris appearing 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 7: with one without the other is that the other may 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 7: say things which their running mate doesn't know or hasn't 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 7: heard about, and that'll be because they're making it up 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 7: on the fly. So if you were to have her 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 7: sit down just with Tim Walls and say, now, look, 56 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 7: do you agree with everything in Kamala harris foreign policy, 57 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 7: he might have to reveal the fact that there is 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 7: no foreign policy and might have to just make some 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 7: stuff up. Then of course the press would say to 60 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 7: her if they ever get a chance to sit down 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 7: with her again, and they say it seems to some 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 7: extent unlikely she does ever want to sit down with 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 7: the media. They would say to her, well, Tim Wall 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 7: said this about your foreign policy, and then she'd have 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 7: to try to make something up on the fly as well. 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 7: So it's very clever of them to decide to sit 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 7: down together because that way they can contradict each other. 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 7: But less. 69 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: Well, there is also this transformation of Harris from a 70 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: staunch lefts to have the most liberal voting record in 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: the Senate to this tough law and order pro America figure. 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: She's now claiming she doesn't support a fracking band, despite 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: in the past saying she'd bring one in on day one. 74 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: She's backing away from electric vehicle Mandaise, and she's suddenly 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: in favor of a border wall. 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Douglas, she'd be wearing a mega hat suit. 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 7: It's very insting. Of course, she wouldn't be the first 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 7: politician to promise absolutely everything and say contradictory things in 79 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 7: the run up to trying to get everyone's vote in November. 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: But the interesting thing. 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 7: About Kama Harris is less the contradictions than what basic 82 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 7: instinct she seems to have had about politics as she's 83 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 7: expressed them in the past. This claim that she's now 84 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 7: in favor of a border wall doesn't seem to me 85 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 7: to be a flip flopping. It does seem to me 86 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 7: to be absolutely typical election season pandering. But what's more 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 7: interesting is what she said about the border wall any 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 7: time before when she's been questioned about it. I just 89 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 7: watched back earlier today one of her appearances. 90 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: On The View. 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 7: How can I describe the View to Non America? And 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 7: it's like Britain's Loose Women, but less cerebral it's it's 93 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 7: like I mean, it's it's a very it's a very unfunny, 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 7: funny light daytime show. And so of course she presented 95 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 7: herself to these fans of hers on the panel to 96 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 7: ask her softball questions some years ago. And on that occasion, 97 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 7: Kama Harris said, in one of those jokes that no 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 7: one else finds a joke, but she finds absolutely hysterical that. 99 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 7: She says that she's very interested in and has dealt 100 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 7: with international criminal bodies and in UH and in going 101 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 7: after those people, she found that interesting thing about international 102 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 7: groups is they operate internationally. She found that absolutely hysterically 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 7: funny and laughed. 104 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: Like mad for ages. 105 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 7: But the point is that she said, and she said 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 7: in that interview, said interview, in that softball thing, she 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 7: said the border wall wouldn't stop these Internet national gangs 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 7: and then laughed manically. Well, the thing is is that 109 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 7: everything she tried to say and that interview was borders 110 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 7: and walls don't matter, that they don't do anything. Well, 111 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 7: if that is her view, and it seems to have 112 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 7: been her view until yesterday, that seems to me to 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 7: be a fairly settled view. She thinks that that doesn't 114 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 7: really matter if you have a border or a border 115 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 7: wall because of international things. So I don't really buy 116 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 7: this late conversion to a wall at all. 117 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: No, I think there must have some sort of internal 118 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: polling that is alarming them, particularly about the big issues 119 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: like illegal immigration in the US. 120 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: So we're seeing this about face. 121 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: Just quickly, I want to ask you about Donald Trump 122 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: winning the endorsement of former Democrat Tulci Gabbart, who famously 123 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: ended Kamala's last run for president. She's also helping him 124 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: prepare for the bit with Harris. How crucial is the 125 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: upcoming debate and who has. 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: More to lose? 127 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 7: Well, of course if the poles, if some of the 128 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 7: poles are correct, and Karla Harris is ahead, then the 129 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 7: sense would be that she had more to lose. Tarsi 130 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 7: Gabbard being brought on board by Trump is very interesting 131 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 7: because AULD say, Cala Harris has put herself forward for 132 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 7: so few interviews and so little scrutiny, aside as I 133 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 7: say from the geniuses of the view that actually Tusi 134 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 7: Gabbott is is particularly useful because she was running against 135 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 7: Harris some years ago in the primaries. She's one of 136 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 7: the few people who's actually been against Harris on a 137 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 7: stage and demonstrated very effectively how to take Harris down 138 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 7: by using what we used to call facts. Now, if 139 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 7: Tulsi Gabbert can can help Trump to find a way through, 140 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 7: she actually probably the best qualified person to do so, 141 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 7: as I said, because he's one of the very few 142 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 7: people who's actually actually gone up against Harris. Otherwise, I mean, 143 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 7: nobody knows really what to do against him, because just 144 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 7: no one has had a chance. 145 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: True. 146 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the extraordinary rescue of a hostage 147 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: held by Hermas since October seven. Kaid Fahan Alkadi was 148 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: one of eight Arab Bedwin Israeli is abducted on October 149 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: seven and was rescued from a tunnel in what the 150 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: Israeli military are calling a complex operation in the southern 151 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Gaza Strip. There were joyous scenes as he and his 152 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: family where reunited in hospital. The family were running to 153 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: his bedside after hearing news of his rescue. 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: Douglas, those who say Israel is a apartheid. 155 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: State really need to explain to us how the whole 156 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: country is celebrating. 157 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: The rescue of an hour Muslim bed one. 158 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I mean, it's just wonderful and 159 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 7: remarkable news. As the months have gone on and on, 160 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 7: there's been so much fear about the well being or 161 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 7: even whether the hostages like him are alive. And it's 162 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 7: so heartening to every is Ready and everyone outside who 163 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 7: cares about about human life that that this this man 164 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 7: should have been saved. As you mentioned, I mean, it's 165 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 7: a bad day for the Israel apartheid lobby because they 166 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 7: have to explain, as we're seeing in the pictures there, 167 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 7: how a Muslim Bedouin father can be surrounded by his 168 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 7: children at his bedside being treated by an Orthodox Jewish 169 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 7: doctor in this allegedly apartheid state. So so yes, I mean, 170 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 7: it's it's a it's a wonderful thing in itself, wonderful 171 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 7: to see him home and reunited with his family. And 172 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 7: obviously everyone hopes that the rest of the hostages were 173 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 7: will be able to have the same happy conclusion to 174 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 7: their appalling treatment by Hamas. But yes, it's a bad 175 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 7: day for all those people who want to continue to 176 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 7: lie about Israel and who pretend that the society is 177 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 7: something that it just isn't. And you know, Israel is 178 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 7: a society where Muslims, Jews, Christians and others all have 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 7: equal rights, and Hamas, of course, wants to take away 180 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 7: every one of those rights and has done everything it 181 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 7: can to do so. 182 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: And we saw in some of that footage him taking 183 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 3: a call from Benjamin Nishan Yahoo whilst on his hospital beds. 184 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: So some rare good news in that region today. Now 185 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Kirstama. He's still railing 186 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: against what he calls right wing extremism. 187 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: Let's have a listen. 188 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 8: A mindless minority of thugs who thought that they could 189 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 8: get away with causing chaos, smashing up unities and terrifying minorities, 190 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 8: vandalizing and destroying people's property. 191 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: But Douglas, we've seem to have heard very little condemnation 192 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 3: of the lawlessness and violence in the notting Hill carnival 193 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: that just took place. There were three hundred and thirty 194 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: four arrests, eight people stabbed, and the media too were 195 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: it pains to paint this mayhem as mostly peaceful and 196 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: enjoyable day. Have a quick look at this clip from 197 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: sky News UK. 198 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 9: And they said a man believed to be in his 199 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 9: twenties has been stabbed. 200 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: His injuries are not life threatening, but overall it's been 201 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: a really peaceful and enjoyable date. Douglas, this is not 202 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: the first time there has been trouble at the notting 203 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: Hill Carnival, but I'm perplexed not much condemnation from the 204 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: political class, and even the authorities, though they've made a 205 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: lot of arrests, aren't exactly naming and shaming the those 206 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: who have been charged with offenses. 207 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 7: No, I mean, I mean, there's only one rate way 208 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 7: to really understand this and this astonishing double standard, which 209 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 7: is the notting Hill Carnival is one of the holy 210 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 7: days of diversity obsessed to Britain, and you're not allowed 211 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 7: to in any way insult or blaspheme the holy places 212 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 7: on this holiest of days. The notting Hill Carnival every 213 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:33,239 Speaker 7: year has stabbings and break ins and outbreaks of lawlessness, 214 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 7: and police officers are molested by so called carnival goers 215 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 7: and the police just stand around and get molested. And 216 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 7: it happened again this year. If, of course, I mean, 217 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 7: if this was a non holy day in the diversity 218 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 7: calendar and it was white working class people who have 219 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 7: of course all far right racists. Now, of course, if 220 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 7: it was white working class people, it would be a 221 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 7: totally different story. But this is one of the great 222 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 7: holy days of diversity, and so the Sky News went 223 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 7: there in the same way that CNN famously did during 224 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 7: the George Floyd riots, into the area of mostly peaceful, 225 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 7: violent protests, you know, and the city behind you can 226 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: be burning down, but it's mostly peaceful burning down. And 227 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 7: on this occasion, you know, yes, a parent was stabbed 228 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 7: pushing their child in a pram, but it was a 229 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 7: mostly peaceful stabbing, you see, because it was all about diversity, 230 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 7: and as we all know, diversity is our strength. 231 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: Always. Before you go, I want to ask you about 232 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg. He's admitted that Meta, that's Facebook and Instagram 233 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: were pressured by the Biden Harris administration to censor COVID 234 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: nineteen content that they wrongly claimed was disinformation. The timing 235 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: of all this is very interesting. What do you make 236 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: of Zuckerberg's about face yet, because it seemed to be 237 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: quite happy with the censorship and the suppression of news. 238 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: But is he perhaps fearing a second Trump term and 239 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: what that could mean for Meta? 240 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 7: It's interesting. I mean, it's one of those sort of 241 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 7: stories where it's sort of years later, after everyone knew something, 242 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 7: somebody admits that the thing everyone else knew was true. 243 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 7: I mean, everybody saw in real time what happened with 244 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 7: Facebook and other platforms in relation to COVID misinformation. Of course, 245 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 7: misinformation and disinformation turned out only to be things that 246 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 7: you know, weren't wanted to be uttered on social media 247 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 7: by the governments. It was an extraordinary overreach, as it 248 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 7: was in the case of the hunter Biden's story, which 249 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 7: Mark Zuckerberg also mentioned, his platforms have been told not 250 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 7: to run because it was disinformation. Only for us, you know, all, 251 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 7: to find out very surely after was actually it's far 252 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 7: from disinformation. The laptop was true. The New York Post 253 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 7: knew that anyone reading The New York Post knew that 254 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 7: Mark Zuckerberg and his clever you know, employees of Facebook 255 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 7: and things, however, didn't seem to know that. But they've 256 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 7: realized it four years later, RITA. So I'd imagine we 257 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 7: can look forward to sometime in twenty twenty seven or 258 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 7: twenty twenty eight, Mark Zuckerberg telling us that, for instance, 259 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 7: Joe Biden wasn't an entirely fit candidate to run for 260 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 7: a second term as president. And they've just realized it 261 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: and they're sorry that they helped cover up and say 262 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 7: that all that stuff was fake news. It turns out 263 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 7: actually the news was true, but thank you for the apology. 264 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 7: Four years later, we can look forward to this. It 265 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 7: is only only about you know, only the greatest social 266 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 7: media platforms in the planet, zinging information to us at 267 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 7: the press. 268 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Of a button. 269 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 7: Only they can be found to have about a four 270 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 7: year wait time to catch up with everyone else's wonderful. 271 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: Yes, and I just thank god they're not in any 272 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: way political, particularly Meta. It's not like the Zuckerberger donated 273 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: four hundred million dollars of his own money in twenty 274 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: twenty to help fortify that election. Douglas Murray, thank you 275 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: so much for your time this evening great pleasure. 276 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 7: As always, reta thank you. 277 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: Now more on big tech and the crucial role it 278 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: plays in promoting or suppressing free speech. Facebook's pair and 279 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: company Meta is one of the worst offenders in censoring 280 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: and suppressing Conservatives. You can rail against white people, Western civilization, 281 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: and Christianity, but if you take a negative view on 282 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: DEI policies, cultural Marxism, socialism, then you may find yourself censored. 283 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: But these radical ideas are on the rise again, and 284 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 3: as Professor Gad Sad rights on X, we need to 285 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: combat them. Socialism communism appeal to many people because on 286 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: the surface it seems so fair, compassionate, and kind. Of course, 287 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: once you are able to think beyond that of a 288 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 3: five year old, you realize that it is the antithesis 289 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: of fairness, compassion, and kindness. It is contrary to human nature, 290 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: and hence it is always doomed to fail. But like 291 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: the proverbial phoenix, it rises from the ashes to parasitize 292 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 3: a new generation of imbeciles. Doctor Gad Sad, visiting Professor 293 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: and global Ambassador of Northwood University and esteemed evolutionary behavioral scientists, 294 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: joins me. 295 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: Now, doctor Sad. 296 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 3: The cultural Marxists seem to be winning the ideological debate. 297 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: They dominate academia, and now their influence has spread well 298 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: beyond college campuses. 299 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 10: Well, this is one of the things that frustrates me 300 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 10: so much, because when I began warning people nearly three 301 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 10: decades ago that these dreadful idea ideas we're festering on 302 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 10: university campuses, people would say to me, exactly to your point, retail. Oh, 303 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 10: but don't worry, this is just in some esoteric department 304 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 10: and the humanities. But then, of course I warned them 305 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 10: that it starts off in an esoteric department in the humanities, 306 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 10: but eventually it becomes our Prime Minister of Canada, it 307 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 10: becomes our journalists, it becomes our popular culture. And so 308 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 10: the virus has escaped, and now it has infected us. 309 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: All it has escaped. It is prevalent, certainly in media. 310 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: In the culture. 311 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: You look at what Hollywood's producing, what the celebrity class promote. 312 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: Is there a cue for attack? 313 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: Can we combat something that seems to have spread far 314 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: and wide? Though I would argue the overwhelming majority of 315 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: people are still not infected. They still can see the 316 00:18:53,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: difference between the work insanity and just common sense rational views. 317 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 10: Well, in the parasitic mind, I do offer an inoculation 318 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 10: against a sort of mind vaccine against all of these 319 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 10: parasitic ideas. 320 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: But let me give you one. 321 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 10: Recent instantiation of this type of parasitic thinking. So, for example, 322 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 10: now we see Kamala Harris that has been coordinated, as 323 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 10: you know, Empress of the World. And the reason why 324 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 10: she is resonating so well, because she has hijacked people's 325 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 10: emotional systems. Right, It's about positive vibes, it's about joy, 326 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 10: it's about excitement, it's about fun. And so that's a 327 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 10: form of parasitic thinking, when you allow your emotional system 328 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 10: to take over your cognitive system. Emotions are wonderful. If 329 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 10: I'm going down the dark alley and I experience fear 330 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 10: because I see three young men loitering, it is perfectly 331 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 10: evolutionary irrelevant for me to feel fear. But if I'm 332 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 10: choosing the leader of the free world, I probably should 333 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 10: not be basing it on positive vibes and fun. And 334 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 10: so at times I feel very pessimistic about the flight 335 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 10: of our society. But then if I weren't somewhat optimistic, 336 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 10: I wouldn't be able to get out of bed. 337 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned your best selling book, The Parasitic Mind. 338 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: How infectious ideas are killing common sense? Elon Musk said 339 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: his son was killed by the work mind virus. His 340 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: son now identifies as a girl and has a transitioned. 341 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: Explain how you wokeness is a virus. 342 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: And if you've got someone within the family, if you've 343 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: got workness in the workplace, how can you. 344 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: Deal with that, how. 345 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: Can you help people return to common sense. 346 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 10: Well, I actually the reason why I use the term 347 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 10: parasitic rather than just virus is because it actually kills 348 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 10: the host in the service of the parasite. So let 349 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 10: me give you an analogy before I answer fully your question. 350 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 10: So you take, for example, the wood cricket, which is 351 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 10: an actual cricket that abhors water. But when it is 352 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 10: s parasitized by a particular hairworm, the hairworm needs it 353 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 10: to jump into water in order for it to complete 354 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 10: its reproductive cycle. So when the wood cricket is parasitized 355 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 10: by that brainworm, it merely jumps to its death in 356 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 10: the service of the parasite. So this is why it's 357 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 10: very important to use the metaphor of parasitic thinking more 358 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 10: than the metaphor of virology. How do you resolve that, Well, 359 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 10: you resolve it, hopefully by people like me constantly beating 360 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 10: the drum, standing on top of the mountain and offering 361 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 10: hopefully better ideas. It's a very, very tough battle, but 362 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 10: I stand optimistic that we will win. 363 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: We will win eventually, the battle of ideas. 364 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: Now, the word woke is used often. Many on the 365 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: left say, nobody knows what it means. It's just something 366 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: that is misused and overused. 367 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: Do you have a definition for work? 368 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 10: So originally it started if I'm going to be charitable. 369 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 10: The original term started as you know, being awakened to 370 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 10: you know, progressive social justice, you know, the bad plight 371 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 10: of people. But of course it has metamorphosized into a 372 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 10: much more nasty virus or parasitic idea, which is all 373 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 10: things that are related to you know, irrational ideas that 374 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 10: originally respond on campus. So postmodernism, the idea that there 375 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 10: are no objective truths is the ultimate work idea, because 376 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 10: it is that framework that allows us to state, without 377 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 10: cracking a smile, that a six foot four guy who 378 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 10: has a nine inch penis can call himself Linden the 379 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 10: next day and can suddenly become a woman. If there 380 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 10: are no objective truths, then we are certainly not bound 381 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 10: to our genitalia. So postmodernism, cultural relativism, social constructivism, all 382 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 10: of these things, I argue, is what really defines warkness. 383 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 10: And regrettably, every single one of these dreadful ideas rita 384 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 10: originated with professors. 385 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: True, true, and you did warn decades ago that it 386 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: was going to go beyond university campuses, and it certainly 387 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: has it's prevalent in workplaces now in the culture. As 388 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: we've mentioned, I do like a definition Elon Musk gave 389 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: for woke. 390 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: I'll just read that one out. He said, wakeness is. 391 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: Divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. It basically gives people a shield 392 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: to be mean and cruel, armored in false virtue. And 393 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: I think that's a nice, simple explanation that I think 394 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: applies to most settings. Something else you've been writing and 395 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 3: talking about recently is suicidal empathy. Explain to my audience 396 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: what you mean by that, and again, how that can 397 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: manifest itself. 398 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, thank you. That's a great question. 399 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 10: That's actually the topic of my next book that I'm 400 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 10: currently working on. 401 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: So, look, empathy is a normal virtue. 402 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 10: Our emotional system has evolved to solve important evolutionary problems. 403 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 10: But the problem arises when it misfires. So take for example, 404 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 10: obsessive compulsive disorder. Right, Obsessive compulsive disorder is a misfiring 405 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 10: of an otherwise adaptive process. For me to wash my 406 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 10: hands because I shook the hand of someone that sneezed 407 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 10: in his hand makes perfect evolutionary sense. But if I 408 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 10: spend the next eight hours washing my hands, it becomes dysfunctional. 409 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 10: So same thing applies for empathy within a certain functional zone. 410 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 10: To be empathetic makes sense when it misfires, when it 411 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 10: becomes hyperactive, when it targets the wrong individuals. Right when 412 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 10: you start caring more about illegal migrants than you do 413 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 10: about your own veterans who served in protecting your country. 414 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 10: When you care more about homeless people who are doing 415 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 10: drugs in the park rather than the children who play 416 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 10: in those parts, that's what I call suicidal empathy. 417 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: When you are so kind hearted. 418 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 10: And progressive that you allow millions of people into your 419 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 10: country that don't share any of the foundational values that 420 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 10: define your host society, that becomes suicidal empathy. So when 421 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 10: you take parasitic thinking, the topic of my earlier book, 422 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 10: and you couple it with suicidal empathy, you have the 423 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 10: perfect cocktail for the end of the West. 424 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: Yes we are. 425 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 3: We're in a civilizational war, aren't we, and the anti 426 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: West forces seem to be winning. 427 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: Before you go. 428 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: You are in Canada, you mentioned your Prime Minister Justin 429 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: Trudeau has been a poster child for the parasitic mind 430 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 3: the woke neo Marxists. 431 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: What state is the country in? 432 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: And have Canadians finally tied of Trudeau's performative caring routine. 433 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: Have they've finally woken up to the fact that he 434 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: hasn't actually been fantastic for the country. 435 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 10: Well, they seem to have tired of him, and yet 436 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 10: they found a way to elect him on three occasions. 437 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 10: But I can answer you on a personal level, I'm 438 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 10: so tired of him that that's precisely why I've taken 439 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 10: this visiting professorship and global ambassadorship at Northwood University in Michigan. 440 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 10: Precisely because I needed to put a pause button on 441 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 10: all the walk. 442 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: Craziness that's taking place in Canada. 443 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: Well, you've got. 444 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: An election coming up next year, so best of luck. 445 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: Doctor Gad said, thank you so much for your tom 446 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to have you. 447 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: On the program. 448 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 449 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: Cheers and still to come. 450 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: Lefty's losing it and Donald Trump's support among minority voters 451 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 3: is growing even stronger. 452 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm in Horowitz is up next. Welcome back. 453 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it And watch this 454 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: Lefty and n Israeli protested tell vivic Ramaswami that he 455 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: has no right to be at Union Park and watch 456 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: the response. 457 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 6: You have no right to be here if you're not 458 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 6: in support of the Palestinian people. 459 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 5: Well, I think you're not going to call. 460 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: Here's what I worry. You have the right to be 461 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: you're not going to call. 462 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 5: So do we return to the genocide. 463 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 3: And it ends with the killing, yes, and and. 464 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 5: The support of Israel, then you should take off. 465 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: We don't want you here. 466 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 5: You're not welcome here. 467 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: Well, the good news is we're in America and so 468 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: we actually get to all express ourselves. 469 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 5: Express being a racist. 470 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 6: You get you get to your express being a racist 471 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 6: zion I think is that what you get to express? 472 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 7: I'm from America. 473 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: Right to speak when you're right to speak your mind? 474 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: Racist, racist, astonishing. 475 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 3: You have a bunch of white far left clowns calling 476 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: a brown man a racist and a Zionist pig and 477 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: telling him he has no right to be in a 478 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: public park. 479 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: That's the modern left for you, folks. Now Here is 480 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: reason six thousand, eight. 481 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty four why I do not use public transport. 482 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: Watch this man being berated by racist woman enraged that 483 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: he would dare ask her to stop putting her dirty 484 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: shoes on his seat and clothing, being. 485 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 9: Quiet when you're talking and touch Megan of slupy you 486 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 9: you're an idiot. That's why you're not married. 487 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 4: Idiots stupid. 488 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 9: Nice trust me, you don't even love you? Touch me again? 489 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 7: Snappy? 490 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: Well well, well that didn't go as she planned. 491 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: Not did he call her out for her rudeness, but 492 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: her attempt to sham him for not having a woman 493 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: also packfired. 494 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: But as you heard, she only just doubled down. 495 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: Let's see how this progresses and whether this dude manages 496 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: to maintain his call. 497 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 9: Your wife is where I'm from. I know you know 498 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 9: at you know that. 499 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: S so now you know what it's like. 500 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 9: You know you're My f is literally by you. 501 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm literally grubbing you. 502 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 5: Do you know you understand? Complete? Complete? 503 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: Oh dear, you know what's coming next? Yep? The race card. 504 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: She films him, hoping to shame him for being a 505 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: hostile white male, but sadly for her, the whole thing 506 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 3: was captured by other passengers. 507 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: So I go in the train of this white media 508 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 4: racious as well. 509 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 5: Now I love. 510 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 9: It being quiet when you're talking, Megan. 511 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: Stop you now. 512 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has put out another ad, and again the 513 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: entire thing consists of Kamala Harris damning herself with her 514 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: own words. 515 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm Donald J. Trump and I approved this message. 516 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 11: Everyday prices are too high, food, rent, gas, back to 517 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 11: school clothes. That is calmed bidynamics. I look, bread cost 518 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 11: fifty percent more today, round beef is up almost fifty percent. 519 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 11: There is not much left at the end of the month. 520 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 11: Fimics is working. The price of housing has gone up. 521 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 11: It feels so hard to just be able to get ahead. 522 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: And we are very proud of aidynamics. 523 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: Now here's another reason to mock the fake news peddlers 524 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: of MSNBC. Let's take a minute now and hold Joe 525 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: Scarborough accountable for this mad rant in twenty twenty where 526 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: he claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop story was fake 527 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: and Russian misinformation. 528 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: And of course we know the laptop was real. 529 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: We knew it then, we know it now, and the 530 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: data on it, from the Biden family's dodgy business dealings 531 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: to Hunters drug fueled hormongering, that. 532 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: Was all real as well. 533 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: But watching marvel at Scarborough's showing you why you should 534 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: never trust MSNBC. 535 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 12: That even The New York Post knew was a lie. 536 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 12: They publish a series of lies peddled them by Rudy Giuliani, 537 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 12: who admitted that nobody else would take it but. 538 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 4: Rupert Murdox New York Post. 539 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 12: Because they might look into it and tell the truth. 540 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 12: Here we are in twenty twenty. This is why it's 541 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 12: come down to America. Juliani is feeding Russian misinformation to 542 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 12: Donald Trump and read it. It's feeding Russian disinformation to 543 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 12: the New York Post. 544 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: They know it's a lie. Yeah, that's where we are 545 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. 546 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 12: Just to let you know that they're still talking to Russians. 547 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 12: And by the way, Russian hoax come on, really, so 548 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 12: history will expose you all as fools and useful idiots 549 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 12: for the Russians. 550 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: History will expose you all as idiots and useful fools. 551 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: For the Russians. That's what he said. 552 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: Four years later, it's Scarborough who is exposed as. 553 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: The ultimate idiot and fool. And we have. 554 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: Plenty more lefties in the media disgracing themselves in this segment. 555 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: Here is veteran PBS host Judy Woodruff warning of misinformation 556 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: before spreading misinformation, an absolute falsehood which she seems to 557 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: have made up. This is your taxes at workfolks. 558 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 13: Candidates are facing an historic challenge, an unprecedented scale and 559 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 13: variety of disinformation online. Former President Trump is on the 560 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 13: phone with the Prime Minister of Israel urging him not 561 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 13: to cut a deal right now because that is it's 562 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 13: believed that would help Sahara's campaign. 563 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: Now, not only did she spread that lie last week 564 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: to damage Trump, but she then blame what is and 565 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: Axious for leading her astray with their reporting. But neither 566 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: atlet had reported anything of the sort. Joining me now 567 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: is journalists and documentary filmmaker Army Horo. 568 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: It's Army. 569 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: You think such a consequential lie might see someone I 570 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: don't know sacked or at least demoted, But not at PBS. 571 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, not at PBS or Frankly, I mean you could 572 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: make that. You can do that same video clip with 573 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: tons of different people in the mainstream media. Frankly, Look, 574 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 4: I think that this comes back to this really interesting 575 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 4: email and this really interesting perspective. Mark Zuckerberg, the head 576 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: of Meta, when he was talking about the pressure that 577 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 4: he faced from the government to push back on misinformation 578 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 4: and then disinformation. Now, using these two words have even 579 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: rita if I can say a thing about your what 580 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: you just did, you made a classic mistake. Okay, you 581 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: are also used the word misinformation when actually Woodrif use 582 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 4: the word disinformation. This is a really important point because 583 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 4: the word the media has been using is disinformation. Let 584 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: me explain the difference between the two, because they are very, 585 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 4: very different, and it means a lot. Misinformation is simply 586 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: giving the wrong information, no more, no less, just you 587 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: were wrong. Disinformation is using giving also information to push 588 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 4: a certain objective. Right now, that's the difference. The media 589 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 4: is in fact using the word disinformation. They're saying there's 590 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 4: some kind of agenda, some kind of insidious move behind 591 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 4: the people let's talk about COVID, who were giving information 592 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 4: about COVID. Some was wrong, some were right, by the 593 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 4: way right, And I think that difference means everything. And 594 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 4: they're pushing this weird agenda. There's a concerted effort to 595 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: push a certain agenda forward. 596 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 597 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,959 Speaker 4: I think that's a really important distinction to make because 598 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 4: that's how the media has been covering this. I'll give 599 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: you a little bit of personal information on what happened 600 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 4: to me. When it came to Facebook, I put out 601 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: a post. All I did in this post this is 602 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: during the COVID at the tail end of COVID. All 603 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: I did in this post was we post a John 604 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 4: Hopkins John I's a well known university in America, well 605 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 4: respected a paper that they did talking about how the 606 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: lockdowns had no real difference immortality rate. Right, it had 607 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: massive social economic consequences, yet we didn't save lives by 608 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 4: doing it. Only those repost that article and then I'm 609 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 4: sorry that that study. And then USA Today had an 610 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: entire article lambasting me and my Facebook post. This is 611 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: prior to my Facebook post getting demoted. It's actually a 612 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 4: quite popular Facebook. And then when they this article came out, 613 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 4: I also found out then Facebook then demoted me, and 614 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 4: they quoted USA Today saying, well, they're one of our 615 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 4: resources that we use for fact checking, so therefore we're 616 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: going to shut down your Facebook. Can That's how insidious 617 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: this entire thing was and now looked a little too late. 618 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: When it comes to Zuckerberg, giving is me a couple 619 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 4: but he has And by the way, I'll point out 620 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: one last thing. I think Zuckerberg is having some kind 621 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 4: of bit of a transformation in terms of politics. Not 622 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 4: saying he's becoming a Republican, but he's definitely not as 623 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 4: a lie in the Democratic parties we thought he was. 624 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: I I am not buying it one second, Army. I 625 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 3: think he can just see the changes coming. There's going 626 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: to be a second Donald Trump term most likely. And 627 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: he's been complicit in this censorship suppression, and I think 628 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 3: he's been an enthusiastic facilitator. I don't think he was 629 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: pressured to do this and to come out now years 630 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: later and tell us what we already knew was happening, 631 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: confirming it, not buying it for a second. But to me, 632 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 3: disinformation misinformation I use those words interchangeable because all the 633 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 3: misinformation is disinformation. It's not just that they make an 634 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 3: innocent mistake, because all the innocent mistakes. 635 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 2: Seem to be in the one direction. 636 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 3: So it's always these mistakes that are made to push 637 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 3: a certain agenda. So to me, the misinformation is almost 638 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 3: always also disinformation. Now I want to play you a 639 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 3: little clip of Donald Trump and Virginia Senate candidate Hong Cow. 640 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: They visited the Vietnamese community in Falls Church, and it 641 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 3: was a bit of a love in. 642 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 4: Vietnamese community loves me and I love them. 643 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: I mean, long, long ago, the Democrats took all these 644 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 3: different minority communities for granted. They just presumed the bulk 645 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: of minorities would back them. 646 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: Those days are over. 647 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 3: We've seen that with the Hispanic community, many segments of 648 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: the Asian community. Is this a change that is going 649 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 3: to turn the polls. I don't think there's been enough 650 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 3: analysis on how minorities are going to vote in this election. 651 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 4: It's interesting, well, the second of the Vidmese community specifically 652 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: before I talk about the Asia community writ large, but 653 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: the vineam Is happens to have always voted more Republican 654 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 4: and the rest Asian community over fifty percent historically. When 655 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen the Asian community has voted it surprisingly 656 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 4: only eighteen percent voted Republican twenty sixteen. Now in only 657 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: eight years, sorry, in only four years, in twenty twenty right, 658 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: four years later, this might have been the most massive 659 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 4: turnaround in the history of minorities. So there's been a 660 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 4: significant change in the Asian community. I think it's going 661 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 4: to make a massive difference. What's interesting is now, why, right, 662 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: why are we seeing this change now? I think there 663 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 4: are very specific reasons. First of all, I think they 664 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 4: happen to be in California, in New York where there's 665 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 4: extremely high crime rates, particularly the Bay Area. They've noticed, 666 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 4: they've seen where the crime is coming from, who is 667 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 4: abetting the crime, and who is making excuses for the crime. 668 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 4: I eat the Left. I think another important data point 669 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 4: is this the whole idea of the hatred of the 670 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: left and its hatred of success. Asian community is a 671 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 4: symbol of success in our country. They are on the 672 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 4: highest earners in our country. They are a successful minority. 673 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 4: I think they don't like being demonized for the success. 674 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 4: Excuse me, particularly when it comes to college admissions and 675 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 4: even high school admissions. Right there has been a concerted 676 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 4: effort to demote Asians from success, from successful placement in 677 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 4: successful high schools, elementary schools, and certainly colleges. Famously, Harvard 678 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 4: has specifically tried to stop Asians from coming in. They're 679 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 4: the only minority with a negative coefficient at Harvard. In 680 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: other words, the only minority that being a minority has 681 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 4: actually harmed them, not helped them outside the Jewish community. 682 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 4: And this has not gone unnoticed. 683 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they are damaged. 684 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: I think the Asian community has learned these DEI policies 685 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 3: that are supposed to help minorities actually damage them. As 686 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: you mentioned with Harvard and some of these Ivy League colleges, 687 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 3: for an Asian student to gain admission, they have to 688 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: do so much better than just about every other demographic. 689 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 3: Hispanic students, black students, even the white students. They are 690 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 3: discriminated against that much because they're studios. They study, and 691 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: they record good results, and of course you've got to 692 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 3: be punished for that now before you go. Democrat Congresswoman 693 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 3: Rashida Talib shared this clip of John Stewart criticizing the 694 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 3: DNC for not having Palestinian voices at the event. 695 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: Have a look at the clip. 696 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 4: They had Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Gay Americans, 697 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 4: Jewish Americans, Palestinian Well, oh, to be fair, it was 698 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 4: only four nights, eight hours a night. 699 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 1: But really it's. 700 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 10: Best not to think about the consequences of our actions 701 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 10: over there. 702 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: Amie, what's your response to that? 703 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: That is highly disappointing. Obviously, John Stewart a Democratic supporter 704 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 4: but also a prominent Jewish person who has support Israel 705 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: in the past. The consequences of what we're doing there, Rita. Yeah, 706 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 4: that's highly disturbing. The idea that the consequence of what 707 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 4: we're doing there, Rita is helping Israel defend itself from 708 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,959 Speaker 4: a terrorist regime. That the consequences of what we're doing there, 709 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 4: for him to spin that as a negative is really disturbing, upsetting. 710 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: Don't like to see that. 711 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 4: And frankly, I think of Rasha Talaeib is amplifying your voice. 712 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 4: I think you have to look in the mirror say 713 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 4: maybe I'm going down the wrong road here. 714 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 2: That is very good advice there. 715 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 3: If you're on the same page as her and the 716 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 3: rest of the squad, you need to reassess your life choices. 717 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 3: Me Horowitz, thank you so much for your time this 718 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: evening and still to come. Student activists at Monash University 719 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 3: demand reparations from Israel. 720 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 14: Doctor David Edler joins me, you're watching. 721 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 2: The Rita Panehy show. 722 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 3: Just a few weeks after Marine Ferruki refuse to condemn 723 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 3: terrorist group. Hamas, the Green's Deputy leader, will be part 724 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: of a Senate committee into anti Semitism at Australian universities. 725 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 10: Does Hamas need to be dismantled. 726 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 2: The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go. 727 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: So if they choose Hamas, that's okay. 728 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 7: And what can I say? 729 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 15: I should have been dismantled. 730 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 13: Hamas is an organization that exists in the. 731 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 4: Regeneral You're able to say where you'd like to see 732 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 4: them go on. 733 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not up to Mitch. 734 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: She has also previously accused the Coalition of and I quote, 735 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 3: trying to weaponize anti Semitism to attack those who are 736 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 3: standing up to Israel's genocide in Gaza. So is she 737 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: on this committee to further her own anti Israel agenda 738 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 3: to downplay the rise of anti Semitism. Let's ask my 739 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 3: next guest, doctor David Adler, President of the Australian Jewish Association, 740 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: Doctor Adler, how is the Jewish community reacting to this development? 741 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 12: Rita? 742 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 15: I think that it's universally seen as quite an absurd, 743 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 15: bizarre appointment. You'd be hard pressed to find a less 744 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 15: suitable candidate in Australian Parliament for this particular role. She 745 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 15: has a dreadful track record, as do the Greens generally. 746 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 15: By the way, they are the only political party in 747 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 15: this country which has, for example, rejected the gold standard 748 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 15: definition of anti Semitism, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition. 749 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 15: But Marine Ferruki is a radical activist in this space. 750 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 15: I mean, we have pictures of her wearing a kafir 751 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 15: with a revolutionary fist in the air. We have pictures 752 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 15: off her associating with some of the most radical activists, 753 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 15: including a couple that have been charged with serious criminal offenses. 754 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,919 Speaker 15: So maybe this is an attempt to sabotage the role 755 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 15: of the committee. Who knows. 756 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 3: Now the student Council at Monash University has called a 757 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 3: general meet and to discuss whether to support an immediate 758 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 3: and just enter Israel's war in Gaza. I'm sure Benjamin Nettaya, 759 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 3: who's just waiting with bated breath to see what these 760 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 3: activist students are thinking. The students want a permanent withdrawal 761 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 3: of Israeli troops and enter what they call eighteen year 762 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 3: long blockade and reparations to be paid for the reconstruction 763 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 3: of Gaza. They also want to call upon the university 764 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 3: to reveal and cut all ties with companies and institute 765 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 3: involved in the development and manufacturing of weapons used by 766 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: the IDF. Now we had a similar meeting at University 767 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 3: of Sydney earlier in the month, and that descended into 768 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 3: utter chaos. You had the pro Israeli speakers abused, spat 769 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 3: on and remarkably at Sydney UNI, they're students voted not 770 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 3: to condemn her mass. Are we going to see similar 771 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 3: scenes admnash? 772 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 15: Look, it's an interesting question. They've actually introduced in their 773 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 15: procedures a strategy which might prevent the disruption, because in 774 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 15: order to attend this particular meeting, a student needs to 775 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 15: pre register. So this may be a tactic to keep 776 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 15: away the Jewish students in the university. I mean, who 777 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 15: would want to hand over their details to the leaders 778 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 15: who are pushing this activism. I wonder whether the student 779 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 15: organization there knows that their university is named after a 780 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 15: very prominent Australian Jew, Sir John Monash, arguably one of 781 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 15: Australia's best ever military leaders and doctor Adler. 782 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 3: I would not give them ideas because the next campaign 783 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 3: will be to rename Monash University and then everything else 784 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 3: that's named Monash in this city, of. 785 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 2: Which there is quite a lot. 786 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 3: Before you go, just quickly, Foreign Minister Penny Wong has 787 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 3: urged the Middle East to de escalate its tensions. She's tweeted, 788 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 3: Australia is gravely concerned at the prospect of escalation in 789 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 3: the Middle East. 790 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 2: Further hostility has put. 791 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 3: Tens of thousands of civilians in Lebanon and Israel at risk. 792 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 3: We urge all involved actors to exercise restraint and de escalate. 793 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 3: But it's notable there she doesn't mention terrorist organizations like Hezbulla, 794 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 3: who seemed to be behind the escalation. I've only got 795 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 3: thirty seconds. How has Penny Wong handled her portfolio when 796 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 3: it comes to the Middle East? 797 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 15: On this issue, She's been possibly our worst ever foreign minister. 798 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 15: And you've nailed the context. There was intelligence that the 799 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 15: US and Israel had that Hesbola was about to launch 800 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 15: anywhere from one thousand to six thousand rockets and new 801 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 15: avs Israel struck, and so to make that sort of 802 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 15: outrageous statement without any reference at all to the cause 803 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 15: is not fulfilling the sort of leadership duty we expect 804 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 15: of our politicians. 805 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: Well, sir, doctor David Adlai, thank you for your time. 806 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 10: Man. 807 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight. I'll see 808 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 2: you at eleven tomorrow,