1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,641 Speaker 1: Apogae, production, life stuff, life, parenting. 2 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:16,361 Speaker 2: We're doing life together and we're just going to. 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,161 Speaker 3: Tell you all about it. 4 00:00:17,601 --> 00:00:22,041 Speaker 1: I hate the word perimenopause. I can't We're not in menopause. Like, 5 00:00:22,081 --> 00:00:23,041 Speaker 1: it's making me angry. 6 00:00:23,761 --> 00:00:27,961 Speaker 3: What Welcome back. 7 00:00:27,801 --> 00:00:30,721 Speaker 1: To another episode of Who Even Are We? 8 00:00:31,001 --> 00:00:31,601 Speaker 3: Podcast? 9 00:00:31,761 --> 00:00:31,921 Speaker 4: Now. 10 00:00:32,001 --> 00:00:34,761 Speaker 1: I'm excited today, Rache because we have got a special 11 00:00:34,801 --> 00:00:35,361 Speaker 1: guest on. 12 00:00:35,561 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know we don't get many of these moments 13 00:00:39,001 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: to share with others, so I'm very excited about this. 14 00:00:41,961 --> 00:00:46,001 Speaker 1: We're very tuoesy Barbara. So, Barbara Banner is joining us 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,281 Speaker 1: from LA from Los Angeles. She is a psychic evidential 16 00:00:49,441 --> 00:00:52,761 Speaker 1: entrance medium. Thanks so much for coming on the podcast. 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,761 Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here. We worked out the time frame. 18 00:00:56,241 --> 00:00:59,921 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I'd love for you to just start off 19 00:00:59,961 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: with a brief background on you and how this all started, Like, 20 00:01:04,281 --> 00:01:06,681 Speaker 1: how did you start doing this? When did you realize that? 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,721 Speaker 1: I don't know, would you call a gift a gift? 22 00:01:09,121 --> 00:01:11,681 Speaker 4: Everybody has the tools to do it. All you need 23 00:01:11,761 --> 00:01:14,481 Speaker 4: is a soul. It wasn't like something let you hear 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,761 Speaker 4: that you look in the in the baby cam and 25 00:01:18,041 --> 00:01:20,841 Speaker 4: there's you know, orbs flying around. I didn't have that 26 00:01:20,961 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: kind of thing. I started this in the pandemic. Okay, 27 00:01:23,601 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: I was old. I always was interested in paranormal and mediums. 28 00:01:27,961 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: I used to watch the shows and everything. Other than thinking, 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,481 Speaker 4: I was a little psychic. And I know when I 30 00:01:33,521 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: was thirteen, I told my friends, I think I'm a witch. 31 00:01:36,161 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: I didn't even know what to call it. Okay, I 32 00:01:38,081 --> 00:01:40,721 Speaker 4: just was a little psychic. I was in advertising and 33 00:01:40,801 --> 00:01:43,681 Speaker 4: marketing for thirty five years, had a great career, and 34 00:01:43,721 --> 00:01:48,041 Speaker 4: then I picked some things to do, volunteering. I didn't 35 00:01:48,041 --> 00:01:50,561 Speaker 4: know until I was all done and started to be 36 00:01:50,641 --> 00:01:54,921 Speaker 4: a medium that every one of those was divinely guiding 37 00:01:54,961 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: me to be a medium. Going on the city's crisis 38 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:02,641 Speaker 4: response team to a scene where the police are there 39 00:02:02,681 --> 00:02:06,641 Speaker 4: in the corner and a body and I would be 40 00:02:06,721 --> 00:02:09,681 Speaker 4: there to help the family who came on scene. So 41 00:02:09,761 --> 00:02:12,001 Speaker 4: I've had a lot of training. I was on a 42 00:02:12,121 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: crisis hotline for women for fourteen years. I just thought 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,001 Speaker 4: it was interesting, and you know, I liked giving advice 44 00:02:20,121 --> 00:02:23,121 Speaker 4: or just listening to people, so I didn't think anything 45 00:02:23,161 --> 00:02:26,841 Speaker 4: of it. Anyway, the pandemic hits all of a sudden, 46 00:02:26,841 --> 00:02:30,881 Speaker 4: my house turns into like poltergeist. I've got paranorable things, 47 00:02:31,041 --> 00:02:35,641 Speaker 4: wacky things going on, lights flashing in fans that are 48 00:02:35,721 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: simultaneously going like, you know, fifty miles an hour and 49 00:02:39,081 --> 00:02:42,721 Speaker 4: two rooms at once, things flying off the shelf, and 50 00:02:42,841 --> 00:02:45,641 Speaker 4: I just thought, oh my gosh. It wasn't like I 51 00:02:45,721 --> 00:02:49,001 Speaker 4: was scared because I thought that stuff was cool. I 52 00:02:49,161 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: just said, I think spirit wants to get in touch 53 00:02:51,481 --> 00:02:54,681 Speaker 4: with me. I had better answer, So I decided to 54 00:02:54,721 --> 00:02:59,321 Speaker 4: take a class in soul to soul communication from Suzanne Geeseman, 55 00:02:59,321 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: who's like really a top medium. And I had never 56 00:03:03,201 --> 00:03:08,601 Speaker 4: even meditated before a rookie, and on the first meditation, 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: I thought, oh my god, this feels so good. I 58 00:03:12,001 --> 00:03:16,081 Speaker 4: loved the feeling. And on my first practice at home, 59 00:03:16,161 --> 00:03:18,401 Speaker 4: I sort of locked myself in a closet and turned 60 00:03:18,401 --> 00:03:20,841 Speaker 4: the light off to practice. I didn't want my husband, really, 61 00:03:21,281 --> 00:03:24,761 Speaker 4: he wasn't ready to know. Let's just say that I'm meditating, 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I see my father who's 63 00:03:27,001 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: on the other side peeking over a wall, like telling 64 00:03:30,441 --> 00:03:32,721 Speaker 4: the other ellas, look, she's going to be a medium. Look, 65 00:03:33,441 --> 00:03:37,401 Speaker 4: And I thought, oh my god, this is crazy. It 66 00:03:37,441 --> 00:03:41,161 Speaker 4: was so fascinating. I loved it. Within seven months, I 67 00:03:41,161 --> 00:03:43,721 Speaker 4: mean when I do something, I go in all the way. 68 00:03:43,841 --> 00:03:47,881 Speaker 4: I was doing practices with other mediums on a wonderful 69 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:51,401 Speaker 4: platform called very Soul. I was doing like five a day. 70 00:03:51,601 --> 00:03:54,001 Speaker 4: Everyone else was doing two a week. Okay, So I 71 00:03:54,161 --> 00:03:58,881 Speaker 4: was all in. I loved it, and I realized this 72 00:03:59,121 --> 00:04:02,001 Speaker 4: is my purpose in life. And I just couldn't believe 73 00:04:02,041 --> 00:04:05,081 Speaker 4: I was so lucky to find something so interesting. 74 00:04:05,321 --> 00:04:05,561 Speaker 3: Hmm. 75 00:04:06,161 --> 00:04:09,481 Speaker 1: Was there ever a time in the very early days 76 00:04:09,641 --> 00:04:12,241 Speaker 1: where you thought, am I actually seeing this? Like is 77 00:04:12,281 --> 00:04:15,001 Speaker 1: this actually happening? Or was there ever a kind of 78 00:04:15,041 --> 00:04:18,201 Speaker 1: a distrust in Am I going crazy? Am I losing 79 00:04:18,241 --> 00:04:20,761 Speaker 1: my mind? Like? Is this actually happening? 80 00:04:21,121 --> 00:04:23,521 Speaker 4: No? The only thing that happened to me that I 81 00:04:23,561 --> 00:04:26,561 Speaker 4: thought was really a little freaky when I was in 82 00:04:26,601 --> 00:04:31,121 Speaker 4: my twenties, my grandmother paid a visit to me. And 83 00:04:31,201 --> 00:04:34,001 Speaker 4: it wasn't like she came, you know, bouncing around. It's 84 00:04:34,081 --> 00:04:36,281 Speaker 4: like she was like laying on top of me. There 85 00:04:36,361 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: was some room between us, and it felt heavy, and 86 00:04:39,521 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: it was a little scary, and I thought, this is 87 00:04:42,841 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: not a dream. There's a heaviness. That was the only 88 00:04:47,081 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: thing that was a little scary for me. But that's 89 00:04:50,401 --> 00:04:52,801 Speaker 4: just because I didn't really know anything about it. Other 90 00:04:52,921 --> 00:04:57,121 Speaker 4: than that, it's been just a joy. And some of 91 00:04:57,161 --> 00:05:00,481 Speaker 4: the things we talk about are real heavy that spirit 92 00:05:00,561 --> 00:05:04,401 Speaker 4: wants to talk about, like violence and abuse and things 93 00:05:04,521 --> 00:05:07,801 Speaker 4: like that, but you know, I'm pretty well trained in 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,921 Speaker 4: all of that from my background. So whatever Spirit wants 95 00:05:11,961 --> 00:05:16,161 Speaker 4: to talk about, they make all the decisions. We serve them, 96 00:05:16,361 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: not the client who might come and say, Okay, what 97 00:05:20,521 --> 00:05:23,121 Speaker 4: color are my shoes yesterday and what do they look like? 98 00:05:23,601 --> 00:05:26,241 Speaker 4: I don't care. That's not what I do. I'm going 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,801 Speaker 4: to just try to bring messages, you know, and hope 100 00:05:28,841 --> 00:05:32,321 Speaker 4: and make you feel better and whatever. So that's what 101 00:05:32,361 --> 00:05:35,241 Speaker 4: I want to do, and I just feel so full 102 00:05:35,281 --> 00:05:36,841 Speaker 4: of gratitude that I can do that. 103 00:05:37,241 --> 00:05:40,721 Speaker 2: Just going back to your moment at twenty when you 104 00:05:40,801 --> 00:05:44,721 Speaker 2: had that happen to you. I've had that happen probably 105 00:05:44,761 --> 00:05:49,841 Speaker 2: on three different occasions, but haven't been able to identify 106 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: who it was because I was so scared in that instance, 107 00:05:56,281 --> 00:05:58,641 Speaker 2: like over my lifetime, I mean, like and I think 108 00:05:58,681 --> 00:06:01,681 Speaker 2: my first one, I think it was like sixteen, and 109 00:06:01,961 --> 00:06:03,721 Speaker 2: you know that feeling of like it. 110 00:06:03,761 --> 00:06:05,961 Speaker 3: Was so heavy and I couldn't. 111 00:06:05,961 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: Get out of it, and I never had been able 112 00:06:09,481 --> 00:06:12,841 Speaker 2: to pinpoint who it was or what the connection was 113 00:06:12,921 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: to me. And then I think from that, Barbara, which 114 00:06:16,161 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: is where you're saying you're open to it, I think 115 00:06:18,601 --> 00:06:20,001 Speaker 2: I retreated. 116 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,601 Speaker 3: Because it scared me so much that I sort of 117 00:06:23,041 --> 00:06:23,401 Speaker 3: it is. 118 00:06:23,641 --> 00:06:25,721 Speaker 4: It was a little scary for me, even though that 119 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,281 Speaker 4: I was open to, you know, life after death, you 120 00:06:29,361 --> 00:06:32,161 Speaker 4: know what I mean. That heaviness, and it was like, 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,921 Speaker 4: you know, is this a friendly visitor? You know, did 122 00:06:34,921 --> 00:06:37,721 Speaker 4: I do something? W're on Gramdmar but I could see 123 00:06:37,721 --> 00:06:38,841 Speaker 4: that it was my grandmother. 124 00:06:39,081 --> 00:06:42,601 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I definitely couldn't make out anything, and I 125 00:06:42,641 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: definitely could tell you that two out of three of 126 00:06:44,801 --> 00:06:47,601 Speaker 2: them were not a pleasant attachment. There was the other 127 00:06:47,641 --> 00:06:51,041 Speaker 2: one that felt lighter, that wasn't as heavy and didn't 128 00:06:51,081 --> 00:06:53,561 Speaker 2: have as much of an attachment, but two of them. 129 00:06:53,641 --> 00:06:54,881 Speaker 2: One of them was when I was living in the 130 00:06:54,921 --> 00:06:58,241 Speaker 2: Middle East, which was so out of body. But I 131 00:06:58,401 --> 00:07:02,041 Speaker 2: was living on the fourth floor above the first three 132 00:07:02,081 --> 00:07:05,641 Speaker 2: floors was a hospital and I was on the floor floor. 133 00:07:06,201 --> 00:07:11,121 Speaker 2: That particular event was the most horrific. It was just 134 00:07:11,161 --> 00:07:12,161 Speaker 2: me in my bedroom. 135 00:07:12,601 --> 00:07:14,881 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was probably the one that scared me the most. 136 00:07:15,001 --> 00:07:18,121 Speaker 4: I think you and I just really didn't know what 137 00:07:18,201 --> 00:07:22,601 Speaker 4: was happening. Or what to expect, because I would figure 138 00:07:22,721 --> 00:07:25,881 Speaker 4: if my grandmother was going to come visit me, you know, 139 00:07:26,401 --> 00:07:28,961 Speaker 4: she'd be light as a feather and you know, bring 140 00:07:29,001 --> 00:07:32,521 Speaker 4: me some dessert. I just didn't expect that someone to 141 00:07:32,601 --> 00:07:35,121 Speaker 4: lay on top of me and freak me out. 142 00:07:35,081 --> 00:07:38,241 Speaker 1: Barbara, do you think that there are certain people who 143 00:07:38,361 --> 00:07:40,041 Speaker 1: do have the ability. 144 00:07:39,601 --> 00:07:40,601 Speaker 3: To do what you do? 145 00:07:40,681 --> 00:07:42,881 Speaker 1: And it looks like, you know great kind of had 146 00:07:42,921 --> 00:07:46,201 Speaker 1: an experience as well, But do you think everybody has 147 00:07:46,241 --> 00:07:49,841 Speaker 1: the ability to tap into that and most people just don't? 148 00:07:50,001 --> 00:07:52,481 Speaker 1: Or do you think that there are certain people with 149 00:07:53,081 --> 00:07:54,841 Speaker 1: the skills and talent. 150 00:07:54,961 --> 00:08:00,241 Speaker 4: I guess well, everybody has the ability because our soul 151 00:08:00,681 --> 00:08:03,681 Speaker 4: has all the information that we ever need to know 152 00:08:03,721 --> 00:08:07,161 Speaker 4: about our past, our future. It's all in here, you know. 153 00:08:07,201 --> 00:08:10,321 Speaker 4: I've taken so many classes and had so many mentors. 154 00:08:10,761 --> 00:08:13,761 Speaker 4: I'd said that ninety ninety five percent of the people 155 00:08:13,801 --> 00:08:16,681 Speaker 4: who are in there have lost a loved one and 156 00:08:16,761 --> 00:08:19,081 Speaker 4: they just want to learn how to connect to them. 157 00:08:19,681 --> 00:08:21,601 Speaker 4: When my mother was like one hundred and three and 158 00:08:21,681 --> 00:08:24,961 Speaker 4: a half, right in the pandemic, I decided I better 159 00:08:24,961 --> 00:08:27,241 Speaker 4: tell her what I'm doing. Okay, I didn't know what 160 00:08:27,321 --> 00:08:29,121 Speaker 4: was going to happen. I thought she might go right 161 00:08:29,161 --> 00:08:31,281 Speaker 4: over the edge at that point, and which is what 162 00:08:31,361 --> 00:08:33,801 Speaker 4: she wanted to do anyway. I said, Mom, I have 163 00:08:33,921 --> 00:08:37,081 Speaker 4: to tell you something. I'm talking to dad these days, 164 00:08:37,801 --> 00:08:39,401 Speaker 4: and I said, I didn't know how to tell you 165 00:08:39,521 --> 00:08:42,281 Speaker 4: or how you take it. She goes, your grandmother used 166 00:08:42,281 --> 00:08:46,561 Speaker 4: to drag me around to tea leave readers, you know, swammies, 167 00:08:47,201 --> 00:08:49,361 Speaker 4: psychics when I was you know, when I was like 168 00:08:49,481 --> 00:08:53,521 Speaker 4: six years old. She said she had juju, she had people, 169 00:08:53,601 --> 00:08:56,801 Speaker 4: she had such insight, people would come to her for information. 170 00:08:57,721 --> 00:08:59,961 Speaker 4: I said, Mom, you're almost one hundred and four. When 171 00:08:59,961 --> 00:09:02,761 Speaker 4: were you going to tell me? I mean, really, people 172 00:09:02,801 --> 00:09:05,641 Speaker 4: didn't talk about it then, you know, just a couple 173 00:09:05,921 --> 00:09:08,841 Speaker 4: hundred centuries before you talk about it and you're going 174 00:09:08,921 --> 00:09:11,681 Speaker 4: to be, you know, burned at the stake. So it 175 00:09:11,761 --> 00:09:13,201 Speaker 4: was always on the down low. 176 00:09:13,441 --> 00:09:15,401 Speaker 2: I think there's a certain percentage of people that have 177 00:09:15,801 --> 00:09:18,201 Speaker 2: very closed off to it that would never want to 178 00:09:18,201 --> 00:09:21,481 Speaker 2: sort of push that boundary because they have that mentality 179 00:09:21,521 --> 00:09:24,361 Speaker 2: of like, I don't want to know anything. 180 00:09:24,041 --> 00:09:26,401 Speaker 4: Right Susanne Geeseman. I don't know if you know who 181 00:09:26,401 --> 00:09:27,641 Speaker 4: she is, but she's like one of them. 182 00:09:27,761 --> 00:09:28,641 Speaker 3: I've heard of her. 183 00:09:28,761 --> 00:09:32,801 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she says you know, everybody can learn how 184 00:09:32,841 --> 00:09:35,641 Speaker 4: to play the piano, all right, you can teach them, 185 00:09:36,121 --> 00:09:41,401 Speaker 4: but there's only going to be a few mozarts. So 186 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:45,361 Speaker 4: it's the same way I believe in readers and mediums 187 00:09:45,401 --> 00:09:48,801 Speaker 4: and psychics. I think some of us have a heritage 188 00:09:48,841 --> 00:09:51,921 Speaker 4: of it. Some channelers told me I've been doing it 189 00:09:51,921 --> 00:09:55,241 Speaker 4: for a thousand years. That's why I just like awoke. 190 00:09:55,241 --> 00:09:58,281 Speaker 1: When someone comes to you. So maybe they've had a 191 00:09:58,321 --> 00:10:02,321 Speaker 1: relative that's passed away recently. What's the process, like, what 192 00:10:02,441 --> 00:10:06,081 Speaker 1: do you do together? And what information do you require 193 00:10:06,121 --> 00:10:06,601 Speaker 1: from them? 194 00:10:06,801 --> 00:10:11,761 Speaker 4: And none? None, one thing. Most mediums, and this is 195 00:10:11,761 --> 00:10:13,921 Speaker 4: what I used to do, we would just say, let's 196 00:10:13,921 --> 00:10:17,481 Speaker 4: see who comes Okay, let's just see who's first up 197 00:10:17,521 --> 00:10:21,441 Speaker 4: to bat. Everyone comes to a medium because there's one 198 00:10:21,601 --> 00:10:26,321 Speaker 4: person they really hope to see, So why not just 199 00:10:26,481 --> 00:10:29,921 Speaker 4: ask them? Start out like that, So I do. I say, 200 00:10:30,161 --> 00:10:32,801 Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut to the chase kind of gal and 201 00:10:33,361 --> 00:10:37,041 Speaker 4: tell me who you'd like to come forward first, and 202 00:10:37,081 --> 00:10:40,881 Speaker 4: what their relationship is for you Ninety somethings percent time, 203 00:10:41,521 --> 00:10:45,401 Speaker 4: that's who comes first, and if somebody else goes first. 204 00:10:45,641 --> 00:10:47,441 Speaker 4: The first thing I say to the spirit I said, 205 00:10:47,441 --> 00:10:49,761 Speaker 4: look this isn't open mic night. Let's try to keep 206 00:10:49,801 --> 00:10:53,121 Speaker 4: to the program here, okay, because everyone wants to get 207 00:10:53,161 --> 00:10:56,081 Speaker 4: their fifteen minutes in. Oh yeah. 208 00:10:56,441 --> 00:11:00,721 Speaker 2: I think that's the interesting part is going into reading 209 00:11:01,161 --> 00:11:05,601 Speaker 2: with hope of connecting with a particular path loved one, 210 00:11:06,201 --> 00:11:10,361 Speaker 2: but then others come through that you sort of weren't expecting. 211 00:11:10,481 --> 00:11:11,921 Speaker 3: This is one of my last readings. 212 00:11:12,041 --> 00:11:14,841 Speaker 2: Was like, I was waiting for this one particular person, 213 00:11:14,881 --> 00:11:18,201 Speaker 2: but I had like a backlog of people wanting to 214 00:11:18,241 --> 00:11:20,801 Speaker 2: come through, And at the end of it, I was 215 00:11:20,841 --> 00:11:23,481 Speaker 2: sort of like, but what about You know, I. 216 00:11:23,441 --> 00:11:25,041 Speaker 3: Felt not let down at all. 217 00:11:25,161 --> 00:11:27,601 Speaker 2: It was amazing, but I think there was a part 218 00:11:27,601 --> 00:11:28,761 Speaker 2: of me that was still. 219 00:11:28,561 --> 00:11:31,361 Speaker 3: Like, you wanted, where are they? 220 00:11:31,401 --> 00:11:35,041 Speaker 4: Well, a lot of times if somebody else comes first, 221 00:11:35,361 --> 00:11:38,721 Speaker 4: it can be indicative of the kind of person that 222 00:11:38,841 --> 00:11:40,841 Speaker 4: you want. Let's say you wanted your father to come 223 00:11:40,921 --> 00:11:44,921 Speaker 4: through and your aunt came through. Yeah, I would say 224 00:11:45,041 --> 00:11:49,041 Speaker 4: your father's probably a very courteous gentleman who would if 225 00:11:49,041 --> 00:11:52,841 Speaker 4: somebody wanted to go first, they would. You keep your essence, 226 00:11:53,321 --> 00:11:56,961 Speaker 4: And sometimes a spirit will come through that you'll know 227 00:11:57,001 --> 00:11:59,681 Speaker 4: who it is and they'll have a message for somebody 228 00:11:59,681 --> 00:12:03,161 Speaker 4: who's alive. The client knows when I say it looks 229 00:12:03,201 --> 00:12:06,081 Speaker 4: like an anthemist. What you know she's wearing, she's going 230 00:12:06,081 --> 00:12:07,961 Speaker 4: around in a hula hoop. She goes, oh, yeah, that's 231 00:12:08,041 --> 00:12:11,321 Speaker 4: Aunt Louise. I say, is there something going on with 232 00:12:11,441 --> 00:12:14,081 Speaker 4: somebody that you know in her family that's having some 233 00:12:14,241 --> 00:12:18,401 Speaker 4: trouble right now? And they'll always say yes, her daughter's 234 00:12:18,881 --> 00:12:22,241 Speaker 4: drug addict. And the aunt will give me messages for 235 00:12:22,321 --> 00:12:25,801 Speaker 4: her and for how my client can help her, because 236 00:12:25,841 --> 00:12:28,041 Speaker 4: they want to make sure that she gets a phone call, 237 00:12:28,201 --> 00:12:31,041 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, so it can travel that way. 238 00:12:31,281 --> 00:12:34,681 Speaker 4: We sort of move on quickly once they give a message. 239 00:12:35,201 --> 00:12:38,281 Speaker 1: Can you think of any examples of sessions that you've 240 00:12:38,321 --> 00:12:42,761 Speaker 1: had with clients where it's been like a really outstanding 241 00:12:42,841 --> 00:12:45,841 Speaker 1: like oh my goodness, well that's really yeah. 242 00:12:45,841 --> 00:12:50,041 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. The hardest thing for me are when we 243 00:12:50,121 --> 00:12:53,961 Speaker 4: do come up to a skeptical person who you know, 244 00:12:54,001 --> 00:12:56,841 Speaker 4: you open it up and they're like this, well you 245 00:12:56,921 --> 00:13:00,361 Speaker 4: could have got that from the newspaper, and I don't 246 00:13:00,361 --> 00:13:03,201 Speaker 4: want to look up anything. My head would get involved 247 00:13:03,241 --> 00:13:06,321 Speaker 4: if anybody tells me anything. I stopped them. I said, 248 00:13:06,321 --> 00:13:08,441 Speaker 4: do not tell me anything. So I had this woman 249 00:13:08,681 --> 00:13:12,561 Speaker 4: her husband had committed suicide, and I'm giving her this information. 250 00:13:12,681 --> 00:13:16,281 Speaker 4: She's asking me crazy things, you know, like Okay, what 251 00:13:16,321 --> 00:13:18,561 Speaker 4: were we all three wearing and where did we go 252 00:13:18,681 --> 00:13:21,961 Speaker 4: three days before he died. I don't know, and it's 253 00:13:22,041 --> 00:13:25,161 Speaker 4: not important. That's not why we're here. I'm not trying 254 00:13:25,161 --> 00:13:28,561 Speaker 4: to talk anybody into anything or make them believe anything. 255 00:13:29,361 --> 00:13:32,161 Speaker 4: I wrapped that up as quickly as possible and gave 256 00:13:32,161 --> 00:13:35,041 Speaker 4: her a refund. And I know I had her husband there. 257 00:13:35,081 --> 00:13:39,441 Speaker 4: I described him to a tee, but she wasn't ready anyway. 258 00:13:39,561 --> 00:13:41,801 Speaker 4: Two days later I called her. I said, your husband 259 00:13:41,881 --> 00:13:44,761 Speaker 4: visited me around three am last night. Okay, I know 260 00:13:44,801 --> 00:13:47,841 Speaker 4: it was him, and he showed me a half a 261 00:13:48,121 --> 00:13:52,161 Speaker 4: toasted bagel scooped out. You know, help women scoop it out, 262 00:13:52,321 --> 00:13:54,521 Speaker 4: take off a few calories, and then fill it up 263 00:13:54,561 --> 00:13:57,761 Speaker 4: with something ten times as many calories. Okay, he was 264 00:13:58,041 --> 00:14:01,201 Speaker 4: just scooping it out. They usually use a spoon. Anyway, 265 00:14:01,521 --> 00:14:03,761 Speaker 4: I said, does that mean anything to you? He told 266 00:14:03,761 --> 00:14:06,521 Speaker 4: me to tell you that. She goes that's ridiculous. She's 267 00:14:06,561 --> 00:14:09,481 Speaker 4: not very nice. No, I have no idea, I said, 268 00:14:09,681 --> 00:14:11,841 Speaker 4: just keep it in the back of your mind. By 269 00:14:11,881 --> 00:14:13,841 Speaker 4: the end of the week, she had called she got 270 00:14:13,881 --> 00:14:15,641 Speaker 4: in touch with me and said, you're not going to 271 00:14:15,721 --> 00:14:18,241 Speaker 4: believe this. She said, I took my daughter to see 272 00:14:18,281 --> 00:14:21,001 Speaker 4: the in laws and my father in law says, you know, 273 00:14:21,081 --> 00:14:24,441 Speaker 4: I invented a product and I have a prototype. Would 274 00:14:24,481 --> 00:14:26,201 Speaker 4: you like to see if you know what it is? 275 00:14:26,961 --> 00:14:29,001 Speaker 4: And she said, sure, I'll look at it. She goes, 276 00:14:29,041 --> 00:14:31,001 Speaker 4: I don't know what that is. He said, it's a 277 00:14:31,041 --> 00:14:36,881 Speaker 4: bagel Scooper can't make this stuff up. Guys inventing a 278 00:14:36,921 --> 00:14:39,721 Speaker 4: bag Okay, that was one. I get chills every time 279 00:14:39,841 --> 00:14:43,521 Speaker 4: I even talk about that because that is crazy. And 280 00:14:43,561 --> 00:14:47,081 Speaker 4: another really interesting one is I have a woman who 281 00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:50,201 Speaker 4: comes every year on the day her husband died, and 282 00:14:50,241 --> 00:14:53,361 Speaker 4: it's been like ten years. She's always testing me, but 283 00:14:53,401 --> 00:14:56,481 Speaker 4: I love her. She said, I haven't felt him in 284 00:14:56,681 --> 00:14:59,441 Speaker 4: six months. She said, you tell me. They're always around, 285 00:14:59,481 --> 00:15:01,601 Speaker 4: they can hear us, they know what we're doing. She goes, 286 00:15:01,721 --> 00:15:04,041 Speaker 4: I haven't gotten a peep from him in six months. 287 00:15:04,241 --> 00:15:06,561 Speaker 4: She goes, he he might have a girlfriend. On the 288 00:15:06,601 --> 00:15:10,121 Speaker 4: other side. I said, spirit will tell you what you 289 00:15:10,321 --> 00:15:14,761 Speaker 4: need to know today. They are intelligent beings, not always 290 00:15:14,761 --> 00:15:18,441 Speaker 4: what you want to know or are ready to know. Anyway, 291 00:15:19,041 --> 00:15:23,441 Speaker 4: she said, well, if he's really around me. He'll know 292 00:15:23,561 --> 00:15:27,441 Speaker 4: what TV show I binge watched over the pandemic. There's 293 00:15:27,481 --> 00:15:30,961 Speaker 4: only two million shows that play there, and I'm supposed 294 00:15:31,001 --> 00:15:33,961 Speaker 4: to get it. I said, he said it was Outlander. 295 00:15:34,441 --> 00:15:39,401 Speaker 4: She said it was Outlander. She like was freaking out. 296 00:15:39,401 --> 00:15:43,361 Speaker 4: She goes. He is around me. He's not always throwing 297 00:15:43,521 --> 00:15:47,241 Speaker 4: signs or you know, symbols at me, but he's around me. 298 00:15:47,361 --> 00:15:50,401 Speaker 4: He knows what I'm doing. He's here for me. He 299 00:15:50,481 --> 00:15:54,161 Speaker 4: can hear me. She needed it because most of the 300 00:15:54,161 --> 00:15:58,441 Speaker 4: time Spirit's not going to answer that. She really needed 301 00:15:58,641 --> 00:15:59,281 Speaker 4: to know that. 302 00:15:59,761 --> 00:16:02,601 Speaker 2: When you have all of the good information and the 303 00:16:02,761 --> 00:16:05,161 Speaker 2: goodness that comes from it, do you ever get any 304 00:16:05,441 --> 00:16:08,961 Speaker 2: heavy or darkness from it? In terms of messages coming 305 00:16:09,001 --> 00:16:10,321 Speaker 2: through for others. 306 00:16:10,401 --> 00:16:17,201 Speaker 4: Spirit when they transition, they only have three emotions love, gratitude, 307 00:16:17,241 --> 00:16:21,361 Speaker 4: and joy. Okay, that's it. They're not angry. If anything, 308 00:16:21,561 --> 00:16:24,641 Speaker 4: they're going to tell you, don't even worry about it. Okay, 309 00:16:24,721 --> 00:16:28,281 Speaker 4: don't even think about it. You don't have to feel guilty. 310 00:16:28,601 --> 00:16:32,401 Speaker 4: They don't want to tell you anything because we're all 311 00:16:32,441 --> 00:16:35,801 Speaker 4: here for the same reason to learn lessons and to 312 00:16:36,121 --> 00:16:37,841 Speaker 4: experience things. 313 00:16:38,041 --> 00:16:40,201 Speaker 2: I know, just from different people that you talk to. 314 00:16:40,401 --> 00:16:43,001 Speaker 2: I'm very open to it. So I've had different sorts 315 00:16:43,001 --> 00:16:46,681 Speaker 2: of readings. One of them will read and again wants 316 00:16:46,681 --> 00:16:49,681 Speaker 2: to know nothing sort of previously before it or anything 317 00:16:49,721 --> 00:16:51,441 Speaker 2: like that. But you can take a couple of photos 318 00:16:51,441 --> 00:16:54,961 Speaker 2: and the photos turn flat over so no images are 319 00:16:55,001 --> 00:16:57,401 Speaker 2: seen kind of thing. This is how he reads. And 320 00:16:57,441 --> 00:17:00,201 Speaker 2: then what I get from a lot of like different 321 00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:02,241 Speaker 2: people that are more skeptical about it is like, what 322 00:17:02,281 --> 00:17:04,561 Speaker 2: if they tell you something bad? What if they tell 323 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,961 Speaker 2: you know that you're going to get ill or something 324 00:17:07,041 --> 00:17:09,561 Speaker 2: like that. And I said, well, they can't. That sort 325 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,041 Speaker 2: of information doesn't come through. Now that's just me closing 326 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: the conversation off. But at the same time, can you 327 00:17:15,681 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: explain anything around that. 328 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,121 Speaker 4: Well, we're not supposed to tell somebody you know they're 329 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:21,641 Speaker 4: going to die. 330 00:17:21,801 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Can you see that though for yourself? 331 00:17:23,961 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: Well, there are some people who are medical intuitives and 332 00:17:27,761 --> 00:17:30,681 Speaker 4: that's what they do. And I have been able to 333 00:17:30,801 --> 00:17:34,481 Speaker 4: scan somebody's body or I'll feel it. I'll say there's 334 00:17:34,521 --> 00:17:37,281 Speaker 4: something going on that they couldn't keep any food down 335 00:17:37,321 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 4: at the end, it's like digestion and it's just a 336 00:17:40,201 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: lot of pain and nausea. And she'll say, yeah, she 337 00:17:43,321 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: had stomach cancer or something. And a lot of times 338 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,521 Speaker 4: that they're telling me something the way they passed, I 339 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,041 Speaker 4: get a lot of that, okay, but we could say, 340 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: you know what, go get a mammogram, you know what 341 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,281 Speaker 4: I mean, just just be safe. But we're not supposed 342 00:17:56,281 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: to say you've got stage four cancer and we can't 343 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: do anything like that. We're not supposed to give them 344 00:18:01,281 --> 00:18:03,801 Speaker 4: legal advice either, or financial advice. 345 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:04,761 Speaker 1: What about ludo? 346 00:18:04,801 --> 00:18:07,721 Speaker 3: And No. 347 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:12,641 Speaker 4: What we do is for the benefit of all. It's 348 00:18:12,761 --> 00:18:16,521 Speaker 4: for good things. It's for the highest good to be served. 349 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,321 Speaker 4: And I don't know anybody who's asking for a lot 350 00:18:19,321 --> 00:18:19,801 Speaker 4: of numbers. 351 00:18:24,241 --> 00:18:27,241 Speaker 2: Kadi asked me before, what would you rather know when 352 00:18:27,281 --> 00:18:29,521 Speaker 2: you're going to die or how you're going to die? 353 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,761 Speaker 3: But I was showing away. 354 00:18:30,801 --> 00:18:34,521 Speaker 4: I was like, when there are people that like psychics 355 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: that can go more in that way. But we're trying 356 00:18:37,481 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 4: to lift somebody's spirits so they can be aware and 357 00:18:40,481 --> 00:18:43,481 Speaker 4: open and feel their loved one on their own. That's 358 00:18:43,521 --> 00:18:45,161 Speaker 4: my whole thing. And to do it with a little 359 00:18:45,241 --> 00:18:48,561 Speaker 4: laughter as well, because that just raises the vibration and 360 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,441 Speaker 4: makes it easier for spirit to get in. 361 00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask my own individual question so selfish 362 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: of me. I lost my brother two years ago now, 363 00:18:59,281 --> 00:19:03,561 Speaker 2: and when he first passed my mom is quite intuitive, 364 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,041 Speaker 2: and then my youngest brother, it's quite intuitive. 365 00:19:06,561 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: And I remember having. 366 00:19:07,561 --> 00:19:10,361 Speaker 2: This angst around, well, it's fine for you, and it's 367 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,441 Speaker 2: fine for you because you both had the ability to. 368 00:19:13,321 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: Connect with him on the other side, but I don't. 369 00:19:17,761 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: And I had this angst around obviously the grief part 370 00:19:21,681 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: of losing my big brother, but the part of like 371 00:19:25,201 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: feeling left out because I didn't think that I had 372 00:19:28,921 --> 00:19:31,401 Speaker 2: the ability to be able to connect with him, and 373 00:19:31,481 --> 00:19:34,281 Speaker 2: like I felt really left out and alone, like I 374 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: was the one that was singled out. But then obviously 375 00:19:36,961 --> 00:19:39,241 Speaker 2: you know talking about it, and you're saying, everyone has 376 00:19:39,281 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: that ability to be able to connect in if they 377 00:19:41,921 --> 00:19:42,441 Speaker 2: choose to. 378 00:19:42,561 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: They do, but you have to develop it. Did your 379 00:19:45,321 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: brother have anything going on with his teeth? 380 00:19:48,721 --> 00:19:51,201 Speaker 2: He had two tumors in the end, brain tumors, but 381 00:19:51,281 --> 00:19:52,761 Speaker 2: on the bottom left hand side. 382 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,561 Speaker 4: Okay, I have somebody coming forward and they didn't like 383 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: their front teeth or something. 384 00:19:57,961 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, that was him. Something he banged it. 385 00:20:02,761 --> 00:20:04,041 Speaker 3: Remember he had one black one. 386 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: Your brother's around you, So there you go. Do you 387 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,721 Speaker 4: have a question for him. 388 00:20:10,281 --> 00:20:16,001 Speaker 5: Uh, he was not into color like dressing colorful. He 389 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: seemed like he seems very monochromatic to me in the 390 00:20:19,721 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: way he's coming forward. But anyway, Yeah, he had a 391 00:20:22,681 --> 00:20:23,801 Speaker 5: thing with his front teeth. 392 00:20:24,001 --> 00:20:26,001 Speaker 4: I want you to think of a question for him, 393 00:20:26,001 --> 00:20:28,681 Speaker 4: but don't tell me what it is. In the vein 394 00:20:28,721 --> 00:20:31,721 Speaker 4: of he knows what's going on in your life and 395 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,041 Speaker 4: he wants to give you advice and just be there 396 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 4: for you. He just wants you to know that he 397 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 4: is around. And he keeps showing me himself, like in 398 00:20:40,961 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: front of the refrigerator or something. Was he really liked. 399 00:20:46,001 --> 00:20:48,721 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really good coolki. It always make anything, 400 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: isn't it? 401 00:20:49,201 --> 00:20:55,361 Speaker 4: Out of the refrigerator? Okay, So think of a question. 402 00:20:55,721 --> 00:20:58,241 Speaker 4: I'll see what he gives me as an answer. So 403 00:20:58,281 --> 00:21:00,041 Speaker 4: tell me when you've asked him, and I'll just tell 404 00:21:00,041 --> 00:21:03,401 Speaker 4: you what he shows me and we'll see what happens. Yeah, okay, 405 00:21:03,681 --> 00:21:11,481 Speaker 4: all right, have you asked if something? Yeah? Yeah, all right, 406 00:21:11,801 --> 00:21:13,441 Speaker 4: So this is what he's showing me, and I never 407 00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:13,841 Speaker 4: know what. 408 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: I just tell you that. 409 00:21:15,001 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: I just call it as I see it. So they 410 00:21:17,961 --> 00:21:20,321 Speaker 4: always like to give me a prop to work with, 411 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,041 Speaker 4: you know, it's a little dighy on a little lake. 412 00:21:23,281 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 4: Now he's showing me in this boat. Usually the client 413 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,321 Speaker 4: is upfront and rowing, and the spirit your brother would 414 00:21:33,321 --> 00:21:35,521 Speaker 4: be in the back, just you know, making sure that 415 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: you don't veer off into alligator territory or whatever. The 416 00:21:39,721 --> 00:21:43,961 Speaker 4: boat is not happening that way. It's like he has 417 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,921 Speaker 4: to go to the front and take over because you're 418 00:21:48,561 --> 00:21:51,961 Speaker 4: running to the back and being seasick. You're just sick 419 00:21:52,001 --> 00:21:57,121 Speaker 4: in your stomach. It's something going on with nausea with you. 420 00:21:57,241 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: Does this make any sense to anything. 421 00:21:59,921 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: That mine was about? I asked him, because what's the 422 00:22:05,481 --> 00:22:06,281 Speaker 3: question you asked? 423 00:22:06,281 --> 00:22:08,161 Speaker 4: Because I want to see why he gave me this. 424 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 3: My question was around what should I be doing for 425 00:22:10,961 --> 00:22:11,441 Speaker 3: work now? 426 00:22:12,001 --> 00:22:13,761 Speaker 1: Not on a boat because you get sick. 427 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,201 Speaker 3: You do get seasick, yeah, really bad. 428 00:22:18,241 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: But all right, that's why he picked it so he 429 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,641 Speaker 4: could laugh at you. Let me tell you what this 430 00:22:23,801 --> 00:22:26,321 Speaker 4: means to me. I get a lot of symbolism, so 431 00:22:26,681 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: you'd understand this is a big deal for you trying 432 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: to figure out what you want to do. Would you 433 00:22:32,201 --> 00:22:35,721 Speaker 4: understand that it could like make you sick, it's churning 434 00:22:35,721 --> 00:22:40,561 Speaker 4: away at you. Would you understand that, yes, clear, Okay, 435 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: this answered your question, okay in a symbolic way, and 436 00:22:44,961 --> 00:22:47,081 Speaker 4: the boat has nothing to do with it. But now 437 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: I understand why he picked a little boat as the 438 00:22:50,281 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 4: prop for your lesson. Okay. Now, if you would have 439 00:22:54,201 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: just said that out loud, my mind could have gotten involved. 440 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,321 Speaker 4: It could start to try to think. That's the worst 441 00:23:00,321 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: thing that can happen for a medium is their mind thinking. 442 00:23:02,921 --> 00:23:06,041 Speaker 4: We need to get all the information from Barbara. 443 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,881 Speaker 1: In terms of seeing loved ones in dreams, my mom 444 00:23:09,921 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: passed away in two thy fourteen, and I cried every day, 445 00:23:14,761 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: as expected. And one night I went to sleep and 446 00:23:18,321 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: I saw Mom in my dream. She was kind of 447 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:23,801 Speaker 1: in a stairwell and I said, oh, Mom, you know 448 00:23:23,921 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: I miss you so much and she said, I know 449 00:23:25,761 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: you do, Darling, I see you. And that was literally it. 450 00:23:28,961 --> 00:23:30,561 Speaker 1: And then I woke up that next morning and I 451 00:23:30,561 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: felt so much better and I didn't cry that day. 452 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,001 Speaker 1: How would you interpret that. 453 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:38,241 Speaker 4: Well, First of all our loved ones, your mom does 454 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:42,481 Speaker 4: not want you to be deluged in grief and sadness. 455 00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 4: All they want for us is for us to have 456 00:23:46,321 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: joy and happiness and have the best life possible. You 457 00:23:51,481 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: know how we grow up. I don't know you're in Australia, 458 00:23:53,961 --> 00:23:56,921 Speaker 4: but how where parents would say I cut my right 459 00:23:57,041 --> 00:23:59,441 Speaker 4: arm off for my kid. Did your parents say those 460 00:23:59,521 --> 00:24:04,041 Speaker 4: kinds of things? Okay. Spirit does not want our appendages. Okay, 461 00:24:04,481 --> 00:24:09,041 Speaker 4: they just want us to be happy. Your mother knows 462 00:24:09,441 --> 00:24:13,481 Speaker 4: the despair and the crying. She's with you. She understood 463 00:24:13,561 --> 00:24:17,521 Speaker 4: what you were going through. Okay, and she knew they 464 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,241 Speaker 4: know everything that just a little quick visit, just to 465 00:24:22,241 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: say I'm around you, I'm here, would make you feel better. 466 00:24:27,001 --> 00:24:30,521 Speaker 4: There's no grand what does this all mean. She just 467 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: wanted you to feel better, and she was right because 468 00:24:34,001 --> 00:24:38,401 Speaker 4: you didn't cry the next day. They don't want us 469 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: to be sad because you have no idea how happy 470 00:24:41,681 --> 00:24:44,921 Speaker 4: they are. On the other side, they've got everything. They 471 00:24:45,001 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 4: just manifest anything they want. Okay. They're at peace and 472 00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: they're watching and loving you. And if you have kids, 473 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,081 Speaker 4: they're kissing them and putting them in bed at night. Okay. 474 00:24:56,441 --> 00:25:00,321 Speaker 4: They're always around and they know what you're thinking. Here's 475 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,961 Speaker 4: the deal with the dreams. It's really hard for Spirit 476 00:25:05,481 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 4: to come down into our dreams. They're on a very 477 00:25:09,481 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: high vibration and as a medium, we have to come up, 478 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: and they come down and they meet in the middle, 479 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 4: and then you get a good reading. The lowest vibration 480 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 4: is grief. It's so easy when everybody's got a high vibration, 481 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,961 Speaker 4: and it's like the tunnels open up and spirit can 482 00:25:28,001 --> 00:25:31,681 Speaker 4: get through easily and you might feel them. Or when 483 00:25:31,801 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 4: it's dense like that, it's like cement, them having to 484 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:40,681 Speaker 4: go through cement to get to you. It's very unpleasant 485 00:25:41,241 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: for them to come down in this dream state, so 486 00:25:45,281 --> 00:25:49,001 Speaker 4: that's why they do it a lot. Right after they've passed, 487 00:25:49,241 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: it's like they're hanging around a little and they're making 488 00:25:51,681 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 4: sure everyone's okay, but it gets harder and more uncomfortable. 489 00:25:56,481 --> 00:25:58,521 Speaker 4: It just meant that your mother wanted to let you 490 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,041 Speaker 4: know because she knows exactly what you're thinking and what 491 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 4: you're feeling, and she did not want you to cry 492 00:26:03,201 --> 00:26:06,241 Speaker 4: every day and miss her every day. She just wanted 493 00:26:06,241 --> 00:26:09,561 Speaker 4: you to know she's around okay, and she is. Have 494 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,321 Speaker 4: you ever felt either of you Have you ever felt 495 00:26:12,761 --> 00:26:16,961 Speaker 4: the change in energy when you think, maybe I think 496 00:26:17,001 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 4: my mom's around or my brother. Do you feel anything 497 00:26:20,961 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: like that? You guys got some juju. 498 00:26:22,721 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: Think I'm more about the signs I look for little 499 00:26:25,961 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: things at the moment. It's the singular feather that just 500 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,601 Speaker 2: appears from nowhere and I sort of. 501 00:26:31,521 --> 00:26:34,521 Speaker 3: Look and go with the absolutely. 502 00:26:34,281 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: No birds anywhere, and it would just literally this small 503 00:26:37,001 --> 00:26:39,081 Speaker 2: feather would just drop literally right in. 504 00:26:39,001 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: Front of me. 505 00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:42,001 Speaker 4: Wonderful sign and that'll. 506 00:26:41,681 --> 00:26:45,041 Speaker 3: Be my you know, it just takes that little piece 507 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,721 Speaker 3: of it away. 508 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 4: Right, What does this mean? Because your brother's giving me 509 00:26:48,561 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: this kind of thing. It's like it's like an arrow 510 00:26:52,201 --> 00:26:57,001 Speaker 4: coming through and just hitting on the bull's eye, like 511 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: hitting the spot. 512 00:26:59,321 --> 00:27:02,041 Speaker 2: If it was to do with work, I was creating 513 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:06,161 Speaker 2: like a movement app which was an arrow, the log 514 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: an errow. 515 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,561 Speaker 4: Okay, so he's letting you know he's at work with 516 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: you too. Okay, So out of the blue he gives 517 00:27:12,441 --> 00:27:14,761 Speaker 4: me an arrow and you know what the arrow is. 518 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,561 Speaker 4: So there you go. He's just throwing little things at you. 519 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,561 Speaker 4: So you know he is around. 520 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,201 Speaker 3: You are right there you go. 521 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,081 Speaker 1: What were you going to say for your Well, I 522 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:31,281 Speaker 1: think I have trouble trusting. I will think things like 523 00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: I'll ask Mama question and I'll say, oh, Mom, you know, 524 00:27:33,961 --> 00:27:36,321 Speaker 1: what should I do about this? And then I have 525 00:27:36,481 --> 00:27:39,321 Speaker 1: the answer in my head. But I don't trust that. 526 00:27:39,561 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: I didn't just make that answer up for myself. 527 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,121 Speaker 2: Katie will ask the question and then she shuts herself 528 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,561 Speaker 2: down before her mums even have the opportunity to. 529 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 4: Father a has If you've got the first thing in 530 00:27:51,441 --> 00:27:55,041 Speaker 4: your head when you ask spirit a question, that's the answer. 531 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 4: If you wait three seconds, our brain would say no, no, 532 00:28:00,321 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: that can't be it. Trusting it was the hardest thing 533 00:28:03,681 --> 00:28:06,561 Speaker 4: for me, because you know, when I would get crazy 534 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,681 Speaker 4: things from Spirit, I thought, how can I say this? 535 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: You know that can't come out of my mouth. And 536 00:28:12,561 --> 00:28:14,321 Speaker 4: I just learned to say it. And I don't care 537 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:18,041 Speaker 4: how stupid it sounds. They can always take it. That's 538 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: just going to come with time and with you learning 539 00:28:21,521 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: a little more. It'll change things for you. So what 540 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,041 Speaker 4: if you stop saying no, it can't be What if 541 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,521 Speaker 4: you say, hey, what if it is? Mom? You know, 542 00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:35,001 Speaker 4: why didn't I just take that and go with it 543 00:28:35,281 --> 00:28:37,521 Speaker 4: and just give her the shadow of a doubt, give 544 00:28:37,561 --> 00:28:40,841 Speaker 4: her the benefit of the doubt. I know she's around me, 545 00:28:40,921 --> 00:28:43,921 Speaker 4: I know she loves me, she wants to help me, 546 00:28:44,041 --> 00:28:45,361 Speaker 4: So why wouldn't. 547 00:28:45,001 --> 00:28:45,601 Speaker 3: It be Mom? 548 00:28:46,801 --> 00:28:49,481 Speaker 4: Yeah, just trust it. I know it takes a long time. 549 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:50,001 Speaker 4: Believe me. 550 00:28:50,201 --> 00:28:53,881 Speaker 1: It's good that whole trust the answer that comes to 551 00:28:53,921 --> 00:28:57,001 Speaker 1: you straight away, don't think for three seconds, because then. 552 00:28:57,441 --> 00:29:00,041 Speaker 3: If your logic comes into mind to that yeah, logic. 553 00:28:59,921 --> 00:29:01,841 Speaker 1: Yeah, or what you want the answer to be. 554 00:29:02,201 --> 00:29:04,881 Speaker 4: At the end of every session I do, I do 555 00:29:05,281 --> 00:29:09,601 Speaker 4: a little exercise with the client so that they will 556 00:29:10,281 --> 00:29:14,641 Speaker 4: understand that spirit is giving them answers to something. 557 00:29:15,041 --> 00:29:15,601 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 558 00:29:15,721 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: Okay, when I count to three, I want you to 559 00:29:18,481 --> 00:29:22,361 Speaker 4: tell me the very first item in your head. One, two, three, 560 00:29:22,481 --> 00:29:27,401 Speaker 4: go'k okay, Well about you quick? 561 00:29:27,441 --> 00:29:30,081 Speaker 3: Okay? What was mine item? An item? 562 00:29:31,921 --> 00:29:34,121 Speaker 4: You can't get to play this one because you already. 563 00:29:34,041 --> 00:29:36,441 Speaker 3: May I don't really know anyway. 564 00:29:36,521 --> 00:29:39,401 Speaker 4: So it was a host on a show and she 565 00:29:39,481 --> 00:29:42,721 Speaker 4: says an elephant. Then she said, that's stupid. I'm not 566 00:29:42,761 --> 00:29:45,121 Speaker 4: going to see an elephant. And I say, within the 567 00:29:45,161 --> 00:29:47,761 Speaker 4: next week or so, or could be a little later, 568 00:29:48,201 --> 00:29:51,401 Speaker 4: you are going to get a representation of an elephant 569 00:29:51,561 --> 00:29:53,361 Speaker 4: in some way. It could be it could be the 570 00:29:53,441 --> 00:29:56,001 Speaker 4: license plate in front of your car that says elephant. 571 00:29:56,401 --> 00:29:58,641 Speaker 4: It could be something that you will know that is 572 00:29:58,761 --> 00:30:02,241 Speaker 4: not what you expected to see. It's out of place, 573 00:30:02,601 --> 00:30:06,721 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And it was from your mother. Two 574 00:30:06,801 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: days later, she emails me and says, I took my 575 00:30:10,321 --> 00:30:13,601 Speaker 4: son to a mini golf place, a new one, and 576 00:30:13,721 --> 00:30:16,641 Speaker 4: look what was on the hole that he had to 577 00:30:16,721 --> 00:30:21,121 Speaker 4: hit the She still can't believe it. It's just like 578 00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:24,721 Speaker 4: blown her away. Okay, it's not where you're going to 579 00:30:24,801 --> 00:30:27,801 Speaker 4: see it. There's gonna be something with a suitcase for you. 580 00:30:28,241 --> 00:30:31,401 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going away on Thursday, So that's I've cheated 581 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:35,041 Speaker 1: with my own answer. Really, but it's it's going to 582 00:30:35,121 --> 00:30:36,201 Speaker 1: come up in a different way. 583 00:30:36,281 --> 00:30:39,561 Speaker 3: See straight away what just happened. She can't tune it out. 584 00:30:41,281 --> 00:30:43,641 Speaker 4: See you can't do that. There's going to be something 585 00:30:43,721 --> 00:30:46,481 Speaker 4: with a suitcase. Like you're gonna be ready to go, 586 00:30:46,801 --> 00:30:48,881 Speaker 4: and your suitcase is good, the wheels are going to 587 00:30:48,961 --> 00:30:51,561 Speaker 4: fly off and you're gonna have to go pick another one. 588 00:30:51,801 --> 00:30:56,801 Speaker 4: Something's gonna go with a suitcase. Okay, do this exercise yourself. 589 00:30:57,161 --> 00:30:59,921 Speaker 4: You could bring a daughter or a son in this week. 590 00:31:00,241 --> 00:31:03,041 Speaker 4: You pick it out one, two, three, Sammy, what is it? 591 00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:07,121 Speaker 4: And everybody can get it? And if you keep doing this, 592 00:31:07,681 --> 00:31:10,881 Speaker 4: you're going to start to trust because over and over 593 00:31:10,961 --> 00:31:14,041 Speaker 4: again your mother is going to put something. I got 594 00:31:14,041 --> 00:31:16,281 Speaker 4: goosebumps from her right now is going to put something 595 00:31:16,361 --> 00:31:20,281 Speaker 4: in your head and you're going to find it where 596 00:31:20,321 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: you least expect it. 597 00:31:22,201 --> 00:31:24,401 Speaker 1: We could literally talk to you, oh day. I think 598 00:31:24,401 --> 00:31:26,761 Speaker 1: we'll probably have to get you on again sometime. But 599 00:31:27,161 --> 00:31:28,641 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. 600 00:31:28,761 --> 00:31:30,841 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I've had a lovely time. 601 00:31:30,961 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: What's the best way for people to contact you? 602 00:31:33,441 --> 00:31:38,401 Speaker 4: Bannermedium, dot com reviews and little snippets, and you can 603 00:31:38,441 --> 00:31:42,521 Speaker 4: book a session. There also has links to Facebook and 604 00:31:42,721 --> 00:31:45,921 Speaker 4: Instagram and TikTok. I think I'm going to start doing 605 00:31:46,001 --> 00:31:47,561 Speaker 4: some you know, live readings. 606 00:31:47,881 --> 00:31:49,801 Speaker 3: Oh awesome, yeah blackbo. 607 00:31:49,761 --> 00:31:53,041 Speaker 4: Oh and this is something you for you too. Soulproof 608 00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:56,681 Speaker 4: dot com s o U l p r oof dot com. 609 00:31:56,721 --> 00:32:01,041 Speaker 4: It is a website that is all things spiritual. 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