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Speaker 1: The Experts with Jason Lauren.

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Speaker 2: You're specialists who specialized in very special things.

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Speaker 3: This week we have Andrew who specializes in dishwashers.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from the expert.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Lachlan.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, well, good evening. If in the

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Speaker 3: UK we're upside down.

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Speaker 4: Andrew, how do you become a certified dishwasher expert?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not not exactly something that you just fall

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Speaker 5: into necessarily. But I've worked for WHICH, which is the

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Speaker 5: UK consumer organization, for well over ten years, so I'm

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Speaker 5: working product testing.

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Speaker 1: I've tested everything from a print to.

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Speaker 5: A TV to all sorts of stuff, but one of

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Speaker 5: my things is dishwashers. I test around sixty five a

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Speaker 5: year running project that does that, so you see the

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Speaker 5: worst and the best.

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Speaker 2: Questions, questions.

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Speaker 3: I've put the draws in my house. The dishwasher in

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Speaker 3: Bachelor do they clean as well as the old pulls

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Speaker 3: down traditional dishwasher.

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Speaker 5: You're doing like a compact dishwasher, so it's a smaller one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know me in Bachelor Pets, Yeah, I've got

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Speaker 4: it in the kitchen.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, they don't. They don't very very rarely do well

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Speaker 5: in our tests. They are not if your compromise for space.

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Speaker 5: They do have a place, but you are taking a

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Speaker 5: bit of a hit on quality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not actually so excited.

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Speaker 4: It's not actually for space. She just thought she was

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Speaker 4: ahead of the curve. You thought it was the way

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Speaker 4: to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can.

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Speaker 3: You can go and knock on the drawer and open it.

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Speaker 3: If you've forgotten to put something in, you put it

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Speaker 3: into the drawer where all the water comes out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the big one. Here's the big one, Andrew.

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Speaker 4: Do you need to rinse your plates and get everything

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Speaker 4: off them before you.

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Speaker 2: Put them in a dishwasher?

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Speaker 1: No? Absolutely, categorically no.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why is because the dishwasher is set

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Speaker 5: up to clean your blades. If you do basically the

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Speaker 5: job of cleaning it not only kind of wasting energy

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Speaker 5: and water, but actually you're kind of messing with the

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Speaker 5: dishwasher system. So the way a dishwasher works, typically most

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Speaker 5: people pick the auto program. The way that works is

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Speaker 5: it doesn't look at what you've stacked. It looks at

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Speaker 5: how cloudy and dirty the water is.

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Speaker 1: It's got a sensor inside.

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Speaker 5: It's called a stability sensor, and basically it looks how

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Speaker 5: cloudy the water is so if you're basically putting clean

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Speaker 5: water through, it doesn't really know what it's supposed to do.

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Speaker 5: And also it kind of needs you to put your

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Speaker 5: normal load. How you would put dirty dishes in?

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Speaker 3: How dirty though? Like can you lay food scraps on

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Speaker 3: the plate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Like and the battered chicken still have rice on it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a bit of rice is fine. I

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Speaker 5: think any like real big chunks of food scraping off

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Speaker 5: into the bin or the compost if you fond of

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Speaker 5: the gun. But anything that is just like a bit

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Speaker 5: of a smear on a plate, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 5: It's it's set up to clean it and if your

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Speaker 5: dishwash is good, it'll deal with it.

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Speaker 1: No rinsing.

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Speaker 2: I love this segment.

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Speaker 4: What I love this is the stuff you would not.

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Speaker 3: No okay question wine glasses Are they safe in the dishwasher? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean like you probably anything that's like crystal

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Speaker 5: or like really nice. That's where a pick a delicate

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Speaker 5: cycle which used around forty degrees, right, they should be fine.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like the rule of thumb is, if you

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Speaker 5: drink out of it, put it on the top rag.

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Speaker 5: If you eat out of put it on the bottom.

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Speaker 2: You know, I did not know that rule, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not commonly known. In my group of.

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Speaker 3: Friend draws is only one level. But you can flip

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Speaker 3: these little things down on the side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've all got the flip. We've all got

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Speaker 2: the flip.

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Speaker 4: You know what I only realized the other day, Andrew,

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Speaker 4: You'll be You'll be just like, oh boy, you haven't lived.

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Speaker 3: The level of the top shelf.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize you could lower the level of the

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Speaker 4: top shelf.

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Speaker 3: For long stems to get like like a long stem

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Speaker 3: wine glass in.

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Speaker 5: Or or if you want to put some stuff below

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Speaker 5: that's high you don't want to block the sprays, you

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Speaker 5: can move up. Blow.

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Speaker 3: I've got another question. I mean, if there, if I

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Speaker 3: was going to the Olympics for something, it would be

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Speaker 3: stacking the dishwasher in the cutlery like the knives are together,

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Speaker 3: the spoons together.

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Speaker 4: Just quickly knives up, ard knives down, doesn't matter, depends,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: But I would usually say put any sharp knives down

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Speaker 5: in case because you could scrap.

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Speaker 3: Now. I'm sure you're going to give me the textbook

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Speaker 3: correct answer here, But for us me immortals, how often

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Speaker 3: do we need to run the dishwasher cycle on the dishwasher, Like.

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Speaker 2: You know, you clean the n get that and you

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Speaker 2: get a little get.

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Speaker 3: That orange orange upside down?

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Speaker 2: Are you the cleaning bottle?

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Speaker 3: Do you need to clean the dishwasher now?

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Speaker 5: I would say probably once every twenty to twenty five cycles.

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Speaker 1: You probably want to run a machine machine cycle.

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Speaker 3: Wash O, we're filthy, p we are twenty cycles? Like

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Speaker 3: you've got four?

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Speaker 2: Key? How many kids?

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Speaker 3: You got three?

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Speaker 2: I think I think I think three plus, so you would.

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Speaker 3: Do twenty cycles? You know what I mean? You should

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Speaker 3: be doing it every week? Just about.

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Speaker 1: How much using me?

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Speaker 5: And it also depends as well, Like people always forget

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Speaker 5: to get the spray arms out.

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Speaker 1: Get them out every sort of month.

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Speaker 2: Probably spray out all those things that go round. Actually

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Speaker 2: take them out, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Take them out, and like because they get blocked with food,

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Speaker 5: Like you'll block the jets and you want to take

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Speaker 5: them out. Get a little like a match stick or

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Speaker 5: something like that, or tooth pick, pick anything out and

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Speaker 5: then run some water through them and then you'll find

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Speaker 5: that they run better.

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Speaker 3: And youre telling was no one's doing that? I have

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Speaker 3: never in all of my years of popping into friends

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Speaker 3: houses have I I've walked in on them doing the vacuuming.

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Speaker 3: I've walked in on them doing the mopping. I've walked

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Speaker 3: in on them changing the beds. I've never walked in

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Speaker 3: and soon someone what did you call it?

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Speaker 2: The squirter arms?

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Speaker 1: Never clean the.

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Speaker 5: Filter clean the spray arms on a periodic basis. We're

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Speaker 5: on the machine cycle. You know, do it and you

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Speaker 5: will find it does improve results.

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Speaker 3: What's dishwasher do you have in your house?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what? I reckon? You have? I reckon?

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Speaker 4: You have one of those ones I have in the

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Speaker 4: industrial kitchens, you know, the big mill ones with the handles.

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Speaker 2: They pulled the handles a couple of seconds.

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Speaker 3: What have you got?

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't actually have a great dealer space in

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Speaker 5: my kitchen as well, so I have a slim I

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Speaker 5: have a slim line dishwasher from a certain brand, which

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Speaker 5: obviously couldn't endorse. But yeah, I only have a slim

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Speaker 5: line dish washing because I don't have a great dealer space.

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Speaker 2: But didn't want to go the drawers, did we?

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately? Yeah, I'm not tempted to buy the drawers. I'm afraid.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have tested them and.

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Speaker 2: She was so proud when she got the dish rushing draws.

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Speaker 2: I got great. No, I like them.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to bend down. I saw someone who

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Speaker 3: had installed their dishwasher like a meter off the ground

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Speaker 3: so theyn't have to bend down to put the dishwash

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Speaker 3: and then straws below it.

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Speaker 2: It's not the silliest thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: Andrew, we really appreciate you jumping on the show. I

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Speaker 4: know it's early where you are, so thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for your time. I love the experts segment. This

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Speaker 4: has been awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Andrew, no problem.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jason Lauren, Jason Lauren wake up feeling Good on

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Speaker 4: one hundreds.

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