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Speaker 1: This is the fits In and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Former One Direction singer Liam Payne has died in Argentina.

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Speaker 3: The British musician's body was found outside a hotel. We

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Speaker 3: know that he returned to the hotel and that he

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Speaker 3: was behaving erratically. The authorities there have confirmed he died

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Speaker 3: after falling from the building's third floor.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're going to cross to Ashley Mulaney in

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Speaker 4: a second. She's Chennel seven News Europe correspondent. We're just

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Speaker 4: getting you back on the line now. It's pretty full

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Speaker 4: on at the moment.

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Speaker 1: You know, if it's watching yesterday too, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: the algorithm of all the social media platforms just continued

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Speaker 1: to serve up Liam Payne footage and moments from the past,

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Speaker 1: you know, from his first audition on Britain's Got Talent

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Speaker 1: to the most recent which was just on TikTok where

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Speaker 1: he was sitting at the breakfast buffet in Argentina with

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Speaker 1: his girlfriend and this was just days ago.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, everybody, it's a lovely day here Nargentina. This

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Speaker 5: is the breakfast table. I'm just seeing and Orange just

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Speaker 5: enjoying coffee and breakfast. Even though it's like one pm.

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Speaker 6: Literally, we sleep in every day until at least twelve

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Speaker 6: from such losers, No, no.

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Speaker 1: It's fun because it was real. But it was in

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Speaker 1: Argentina a couple of days ago. So we also saw

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Speaker 1: the footage of him at Nile Horn's concert meeting some fans.

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Speaker 1: But what happened between then and I suppose close to

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Speaker 1: this time yesterday is devastating.

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Speaker 4: Let's find out more. Channel seven Europe correspondent Joel Dry

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Speaker 4: joins us. Now, Joel, we've seen some we have seen

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Speaker 4: some vision and also some photos that are quite distressing

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Speaker 4: from Liam Payne's hotel room.

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Speaker 5: Can you just update us a little bit.

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Speaker 7: There, Joel, Yeah, good morning, Gods. Pretty distressing scenes I

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Speaker 7: were taken from insight his Bornos Aiaus hotel room, and

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Speaker 7: it shows a trashed room. Essentially there is damaged equipment,

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Speaker 7: damaged furniture, a general mess and troublingly, also, what was

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Speaker 7: found is what seems to be drugs and alcohol. We

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Speaker 7: have received some details on the autopsy of the body

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Speaker 7: of the thirty one year old Formal one Direction star.

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Speaker 7: What it shows is that he suffered twenty five serious injuries,

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Speaker 7: all consistent with a fall from a great height, the

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Speaker 7: most serious of course being that to his head, which

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Speaker 7: in and of itself would have been enough to cause

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Speaker 7: the fatality. That's perhaps not surprising the results of that,

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Speaker 7: given he fell from the third floor balcony. But what

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Speaker 7: we are still waiting on is the toxicology report, so

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Speaker 7: that will give a bit of an understanding whether or

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Speaker 7: not substances were at play, and that, further on will

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Speaker 7: give an idea perhaps whether he was conscious or unconscious.

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Speaker 7: That paints a picture of whether we're talking suicide or

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Speaker 7: perhaps a really tragic accident. As I said, drugs in

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Speaker 7: our hole were located in the room that was trashed,

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Speaker 7: and we've also heard from other guests, other staff at

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Speaker 7: the hotel that said in the sort of hours and

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Speaker 7: moments leading up to the tragedy, there were some pretty

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Speaker 7: distressing noises and shouting enough one of the hotel manager

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Speaker 7: to actually contact police and say, look, we have a

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Speaker 7: clearly they were concerned enough to contact police, and fears

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Speaker 7: that were well founded. Of course, he was discovered in

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Speaker 7: the courtroom, the courtroom floor of that buonos AI's hotel room.

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Speaker 7: That has then sparked this outbouring of grief from millions

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Speaker 7: of one Direction fans right around the world.

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Speaker 1: Joel can I ask a lot of the news services

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Speaker 1: are saying that he did jump and it wasn't an accident.

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Speaker 1: I mean that they can't be making that claim without

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Speaker 1: having some level of evidence. Do we know if there's

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Speaker 7: Well, police have said they are very confident there was

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Speaker 7: no one else in the room, there were no injuries

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Speaker 7: consistent with you know, foul play or someone having done

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Speaker 7: this to him. The big question is was he conscious

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Speaker 7: or unconscious at the time, And again that's where the

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Speaker 7: toxicology comes into play and you start to understand that,

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Speaker 7: perhaps this was you know, he's had a slip, he's

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Speaker 7: perhaps this was just a really, really tragic accident. So

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Speaker 7: these things take time. But you know, while that plays out,

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Speaker 7: the grief is happening right around the world. Here in

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Speaker 7: the UK. You know, we've seen fans not just in

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Speaker 7: They have started to gather and sort of remember him

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Speaker 7: and share their grief and shock at this news. His

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Speaker 7: they now have the really tragic job of heading to

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Speaker 7: Argentina that we know they are doing. There'll be some formalities,

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Speaker 7: but of course primarily they want to bring Liam home

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Speaker 7: so they can continue their grieving and ultimately lay him

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Speaker 4: Have we heard from the partner, Kate Cassidy at all, Joel.

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Speaker 4: She wasn't there at the time, was she, But she

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Speaker 7: No, nothing from her. We know that she not long

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Speaker 7: after that Instagram video that you played. Not long after that,

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Speaker 7: she returned home to the US. So there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of speculation about whether that unprompted return to the US

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Speaker 7: maybe send him on a bit of a personal spiral

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Speaker 7: that led to these tragic circumstances. The other key people

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Speaker 7: we haven't heard from are his former band members. No

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Speaker 7: one from one direction has publicly said anything. There is

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Speaker 7: a thought that maybe they want to do something as

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Speaker 7: a unit. Sometimes that happens, you know. We know when

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Speaker 7: Friends that when Matthew Perry died, the Friends cast members

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Speaker 7: all got together and wanted to do it as a unit.

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Speaker 7: So perhaps they're sort of formulating something and we will

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Speaker 7: so a lot to play out in this and however

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Speaker 7: it falls, whatever the cause, whatever the circumstances, it won't

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Speaker 7: change the fact that, you know, a thirty one year

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Speaker 7: old father has sadly lost his life.

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Speaker 5: Joel, thank you mate, Well you appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Joel.

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Speaker 4: That's Channel seven News Europe correspondent there, Joel Drive.

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Speaker 5: From the UK. We're going to have more for you.

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Speaker 5: It's in the six thirty years. It fits.

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Speaker 1: I think Harry's mum made a comment and it was

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Speaker 1: it just said, just a boy, and that's what it

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Speaker 1: feels like because we grew up with him from such

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Speaker 1: an early age and now being only thirty one. That's

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Speaker 1: the tragic reality of what we're seeing here today.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, I'm just reading over a post that has

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Speaker 2: only come through in the last few minutes. One Direction

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Speaker 2: has released a united official statements for us to see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: It's really classy. Louis, Zaye, Nile, and Harry. I'll read

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Speaker 2: it to you now. It's very sad, of course, Liam.

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Speaker 2: Liam Payne did pass yesterday, only about twenty four hours ago.

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Speaker 2: Now we're completely devastated by the news of Liam's passing.

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Speaker 2: In time and when everyone is able to, there will

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Speaker 2: be more to say, But for now we will take

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Speaker 2: some time to grieve and process the loss of our brother,

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Speaker 2: who we love dearly. The memories we shared with him

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Speaker 2: will be treasured forever. For now, our thoughts are with

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Speaker 2: his family, his friends, and the fans who loved him

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Speaker 2: alongside us. We will miss him terribly. We love you, Liam, Louis, Zayne, Nile,

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's well worded and beautifully put together, and great to

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Speaker 1: they've had their differences over the years.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think in a moment like this, I think

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Speaker 1: You know, we were talking earlier to Kate the comment

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Speaker 1: she said, just a boy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a boy.

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Speaker 2: Louis has actually released his own statement. It is a

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Speaker 2: lengthy one and we will go through that a little

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Speaker 2: later on the show. But yeah, there we have a

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Speaker 3: This is the Fits in Whip with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Former One Direction singer Liam Payne has died in Argentina.

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Speaker 3: The British musician's body was found outside a hotel. We

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Speaker 3: after falling from the building's third flow.

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Speaker 1: It was confronting around this time yesterday when the news broke,

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Speaker 1: and I think we were sort of two hours behind

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Speaker 1: Payne had passed away. Having formed three stories from a

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Speaker 5: You're very distressing to Yeah, it is distressing.

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Speaker 1: That's the perfect word, k Richie, I want to go

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Speaker 1: back to I mean, we've had some fun with one

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Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight because the band also talks

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Speaker 1: also how gifted he was musically. So this was two

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Speaker 6: Floody to the Moon, let me play among the stars

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Speaker 6: and let me see what spring is like on Jupiter

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Speaker 6: and Mars. In other words, hol my hand, in other words,

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Speaker 1: You can hear of the depth and the voice for

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Speaker 2: You'd be quite a live racking, wouldn't it. Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: the audition of a lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Totally looks goods out there in front Simon Calsterodom going,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this is going to be huge.

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Speaker 4: There rumors were that the band was built around him,

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Speaker 4: Wasn't it like he was the one I think with

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Speaker 1: But there's a story also because I think the year

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Speaker 1: said to him, you're not ready yet, come back next year,

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Speaker 1: and he came back and went, bang, you're right. But

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Speaker 1: they heard that voice and then said, why don't we

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Speaker 1: get all these individual boys together former group, let's call

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Speaker 5: Awesome. He still doesn't. This is the thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, how many how many carnations have there been

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Speaker 4: of boy bands where it's like, you know, like it's

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Speaker 4: never gone. Majority of them don't work, But for that one,

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Speaker 4: it just struck a chord globally, like I just couldn't

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Speaker 4: believe the hysteria that when they first came to Australia, madness.

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Speaker 1: And you know what when people say they were bigger

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Speaker 4: Nice Well, the Swift hysteria at the start of this

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Speaker 5: I think you that's for a band.

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Speaker 5: Regrets no, no, But you're right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the average teenager is going through such a

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Speaker 5: The it got bombong.

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Speaker 4: And when we got there, we started the interview, and

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Speaker 5: And now were great. They're grit in views. Funny, funny.

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Speaker 8: The time when when when everything got most sketchy for

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Speaker 9: Because the responsibility is more on you and I. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Things are going up, yeah, exactly, and it's just you know,

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Speaker 8: everybody is just trying to, you know, one make a

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Speaker 1: Honesty was a for Liam. We've heard a statement from

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Speaker 2: Tomlinson has, as you said, One Direction has released their

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Speaker 2: really moving. It's lengthy, and he starts, of course by

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Speaker 4: Fitz Zayne's just Zayne as you are speaking. Kate has

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Speaker 2: You want to update me on that?

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Speaker 5: Well, he just says when I was missing home as

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Speaker 4: Old kid, You'll always be there with a positive outlook

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Speaker 4: You were headstrong, opinionated and gave no fs about telling

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Speaker 5: That's from Zay.

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Speaker 2: What did Louis Writekay, Well, it's funny you should touch

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Speaker 2: The feeling seems to be very similar, that they were

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Speaker 2: Lewis's take on that was that his message to Liam,

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Speaker 2: I thought i'd have with you for life. I would

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Speaker 2: if Bear ever needs me, I'll be the uncle he

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Speaker 2: I loved you, Peino, my boy, one of my best friends,

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Speaker 5: I love you. That's crushing.

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Speaker 6: Gives me.

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Speaker 4: The funeral is going to be very emotional when they

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Speaker 1: That was crushing yesterday with the thought of Bear, wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It Well, all I hoped was and I know the

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Speaker 2: news broke during our show, so it was morning for

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Speaker 5: He goes to school.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing he has an iPad like every other child

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Speaker 2: you know, any seven year old boy deserves to hear

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Speaker 5: But his mum.

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