Speaker 1: This is outsiders, good morning and welcome to outsiders.
Speaker 2: Oops, did I just say good morning?
Speaker 3: So let's talk about where the word good morning originated from?
Speaker 4: Good morning?
Speaker 3: All right, So during slavery times when the women used
Speaker 3: to mourn about their child being taken away and sold
Speaker 3: to a different slave master, or if one of the
Speaker 3: family members did something that resulted until them getting whipped
Speaker 3: or killed. Most of these things used to happen in
Speaker 3: the evening time, so the white oppressors came up with
Speaker 3: good morning as a mockery towards black people during the
Speaker 3: slavery times when they used to cry and mourn and grieve.
Speaker 5: Yes, apparently the expression good morning doesn't mean good morning
Speaker 5: at all. It actually means good morning with a you,
Speaker 5: and it is of course racist.
Speaker 3: All he did was take the U off of so
Speaker 3: nobody would think about what it really originated from. It
Speaker 3: was really a markery tours black sleeves.
Speaker 6: That sounds dreadful. On the other hand, perhaps according to
Speaker 6: the Oxford English Dictionary, the expression good morn first appeared
Speaker 6: in Middle English in the fourteenth century in Sir Gawayne
Speaker 6: and the Green Knight. But you know, you can take
Speaker 6: your pick.
Speaker 3: That was their way of being funny good morning everyone.
Speaker 1: Luckily here in Australia we just say gooday instead, so
Speaker 1: much easy. Maybe the Yanks can start saying gooday as well.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's grab the latest Outsiders news.
Speaker 2: Well Rita and freyer weird.
Speaker 1: I've been calling on this show for Jacenter Price to
Speaker 1: reappear on the front of the election campaign, as she
Speaker 1: did so successfully in the coalition's most successful electioneering probably
Speaker 1: since John Howard's days, which was of course The Voice.
Speaker 1: Rita Jasenta finally reappeared and of course the lefts, the
Speaker 1: lefties went crazy and attacked her.
Speaker 5: They did, but this time instead of backing her to
Speaker 5: the hilt, it seems like her own party capitulated and
Speaker 5: forced her to also take a backwards step.
Speaker 7: This is mad, mad stuff.
Speaker 5: It's exactly what you would expect. It's what we saw
Speaker 5: during the Voice campaign. Everything she said was challenged by
Speaker 5: the likes of the ABC mister represented or presented in
Speaker 5: some sinister light, and we saw how ineffective that was.
Speaker 5: But the Coalition is spooked and after she talked about
Speaker 5: making Australia great again, they went in to meltdown mode
Speaker 5: because comparisons with Donald Trump were made by the ABC
Speaker 5: and the Guardian and other leftist media, and it really
Speaker 5: is just shows you how infantile our politics is. We
Speaker 5: know we can mock other countries, but what's happening in
Speaker 5: this country right now is it's had embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Well, let's take a look. Ray.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but this was
Speaker 1: just Enterprise in Wa with Peter Dutton.
Speaker 8: I'm so proud to be able to stand beside and
Speaker 8: to ensure that we can make Australia rate again, that
Speaker 8: we can bring Australia back towards former glory, that we
Speaker 8: can get Australia back on track.
Speaker 2: No, if I said that, I don't even realize I
Speaker 2: said that.
Speaker 5: But no, I'm an Australian and I want to ensure
Speaker 5: that we get Australia back on track.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: So let's be very very clear the media. You're all
Speaker 7: obsessed with Donald Trump.
Speaker 9: We're not.
Speaker 2: We're not obsessed with Donald Trump.
Speaker 8: We're actually obsessed with ensuring that we can improve the
Speaker 8: circumstances for Australians.
Speaker 2: We're governing for Australians.
Speaker 1: So, Fred, I don't know what you made of that,
Speaker 1: but for me, just center price is the best communicator
Speaker 1: the coalition have bar none head and shoulders above the rest.
Speaker 1: She said make Australia great again, and then of course
Speaker 1: the left turned on her and turned at the press conflint,
Speaker 1: Why did you say make Australia again? My thing would be,
Speaker 1: what you don't want to make Australia great again? Surely
Speaker 1: that is the most important part of the coalition's election campaign.
Speaker 1: We've had three years of a disastrous alban Easy hard
Speaker 1: left government. Of course we want to make Australia great again.
Speaker 1: That is what Just Enterprise should have been allowed to say.
Speaker 6: Freya Well, I don't think she even meant to say
Speaker 6: it like. It wasn't as though she was channeling Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: If you hear how she was speaking, she was talking
Speaker 6: about a range of things. We've got to get Australia
Speaker 6: back on track, improve the country, you know, take it
Speaker 6: back from the radical leftist Anthony Albanesi government. She wasn't
Speaker 6: trying to repeat the Trump slogan. It's just a catchy
Speaker 6: slogan that we can all relate to. So it's not
Speaker 6: as though she was channeling Trump. And this is the
Speaker 6: left wing media again. They are trying to make this
Speaker 6: election about Trump, because if you have seen in Canada,
Speaker 6: the Canadian Conservatives looked like they were going to win
Speaker 6: the election, and now all of a sudden they're tanking
Speaker 6: in the polls, even after fourteen years of left wing government,
Speaker 6: because they're scene is too aligned with Trump, and so
Speaker 6: now Canadians are rejecting them, and the ABC and the
Speaker 6: left wing media want to bring that here Peter Dutton
Speaker 6: with the same brush as Trump and go see, if
Speaker 6: you vote for Dutton, you're voting for Trump, and they
Speaker 6: know that that won't be popular with a lot of Australian.
Speaker 2: I disagree with you there, Reta.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think any comparisons with Trump are grossly unfair.
Speaker 7: On Donald Trump has actually done the work.
Speaker 5: He actually put his life on the line. He suffered
Speaker 5: all sorts of law fare, he had his businesses attacked,
Speaker 5: his livelihood. He is a very liberty attack and through
Speaker 5: it all he was articulating bold policy positions that he
Speaker 5: has been consisted on for years. So when he went
Speaker 5: to election, everybody knew what the choices were. The problem
Speaker 5: we've got without election is I think the great majority
Speaker 5: of Australians who are not living and breathing politics every
Speaker 5: day don't know what the differences between these two parties are.
Speaker 5: And if you don't believe that we should make Australia
Speaker 5: great again, that there is actually things to repair, serious
Speaker 5: things to repair, then why would you advocate for changing
Speaker 5: the Albanese government. If you are the coalition, you actually
Speaker 5: need to make the case of why we need significant
Speaker 5: change right now. They're not making that case. It's too
Speaker 5: much of me too. You know, it's not going to
Speaker 5: be a dramatic change. We're just better economic managers. That
Speaker 5: is not a winning argument. You want to change a
Speaker 5: first term government, you better make a compelling taste of
Speaker 5: the Australian people of what's wrong in the country and
Speaker 5: what we need to change to get the country looking
Speaker 5: the way you want. And if that is represented by
Speaker 5: the words make Australia great again, that shouldn't be some
Speaker 5: sort of you know, no, it shouldn't be in terminology
Speaker 5: that you have to back away from.
Speaker 1: I want to pick you up on that Freyra in
Speaker 1: a second, but I just want to play you the reaction.
Speaker 2: From Labor to these so called remarks. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 4: They've been here making some rather strange comments and policies
Speaker 4: as well, trying to borrow from another country.
Speaker 2: What we know.
Speaker 4: What we know is Australians, is that we don't need
Speaker 4: to borrow from anyone because here we are building the
Speaker 4: fairest country on Earth, the most prosperous country on Earth,
Speaker 4: and the best country on Earth.
Speaker 10: I think they said the quiet bit out loud Peter
Speaker 10: Dutton's campaign to be Prime Minister just to cut and
Speaker 10: paste from the United States. First he cut and paste
Speaker 10: their policies. Now he's cutting and pasting their slogans.
Speaker 2: You see. I wish that were the case, Jason.
Speaker 1: I wish that lever parties had cut and pasted Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's campaign because then they would be winning.
Speaker 2: And my problem, prayer is that when.
Speaker 1: People start to go, oh no, the coalition, shouldn't you
Speaker 1: know Poaliev's lost because he's too close to Trump. Firstly,
Speaker 1: that that's not true because Pualiev has always had a
Speaker 1: difficult relationship with Trump. But here in Australia, there's no
Speaker 1: evidence whatsoever that the public don't support Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: that the Coalition should not have gone one hundred percent
Speaker 1: down the Trump route because all the same issues are here.
Speaker 1: If as Rita says, we are to get rid of
Speaker 1: this horrible left wing government. Albaneze is Joe Biden. Look
Speaker 1: at the comparisons. They can barely stand on stage together.
Speaker 2: With tripping over each other. They can barely speak the
Speaker 2: Queen's English.
Speaker 1: Both of them are hard left buffoons. And the Trump
Speaker 1: agenda of attacking wokeness was the key for the coalition
Speaker 1: to win this campaign and they refuse to do it.
Speaker 6: But a part of the well, there is some truth
Speaker 6: in that. But also we have to remember the two
Speaker 6: key reasons people voted for Trump were inflation, cost of
Speaker 6: living and illegal immigration. Think about what is it the one?
Speaker 5: In fact, in all the research it showed that was
Speaker 5: number one for the independent voters. So that was underplayed greatly.
Speaker 7: Now I not agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 5: On there being no negative connotations because our media is unique.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the most Australians who this is what
Speaker 5: they absorb and they don't really other than programs like this,
Speaker 5: or if they're online and they're seeing things on social media,
Speaker 5: most of what they consume about Donald Trump is hysterical, false,
Speaker 5: far left idiocy, even when it comes from some supposedly
Speaker 5: right leaning commentators.
Speaker 7: So that's the perception that's.
Speaker 5: Out there so that I can understand why they're worried
Speaker 5: about that. But a work of a coalition or any
Speaker 5: sort of conservative force in this country should be to
Speaker 5: articulate the policy positions and to fight on them. And
Speaker 5: if they actually did that, if they actually took the
Speaker 5: Trump agenda, forget about him. But if they looked at
Speaker 5: things like cost of living, the inflation issue, they looked
Speaker 5: at the culture war issues. These are significant issues. Is
Speaker 5: about the values of a country. They're not trivial, and
Speaker 5: if they fought on them, they would have a fighting chance.
Speaker 5: But they are so scared, they're so terrified to even
Speaker 5: be have that comparison made that they are just the
Speaker 5: back foot. And that is not how you win as
Speaker 5: an opposition. You need to be in attack mode every single.
Speaker 1: Day, one hundred percent. And that's my point. This is
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. The Donald Trump playbook. Not Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: but the Donald Trump playbook. The most successful ad that
Speaker 1: Trump won was the one attacking Kamala Harris on They
Speaker 1: then us, we stand for you. The coalition could have
Speaker 1: just done that and won the cultures, but instead they
Speaker 1: walked away from Donald Trump like his toxic right from
Speaker 1: the word goo. The first thing Peter Dutton said was
Speaker 1: after Trump's victory, Peter Dutton should have said, what.
Speaker 2: A fantastic day for the world.
Speaker 1: Instead he came out and he said, oh, there's no
Speaker 1: need to be afraid of a Donald Trump. Thinking, no,
Speaker 1: we should be embracing the Trump victory and not playing
Speaker 1: on Labour's ground because you, as Rita said, the media
Speaker 1: are entirely painting Trump as a problem. You speak to
Speaker 1: average Australians out there and you actually have a discussion
Speaker 1: with him, Rita, you're going to be talking about Bill
Speaker 1: Maher's amazing Trump dinner and conversion. The Coalition should have
Speaker 1: embraced Trump, not being scared of him.
Speaker 2: That's my point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think Trump has done some great things
Speaker 6: and I think especially like raining and government waste, that's
Speaker 6: an example where the Coalition has taken up that position.
Speaker 2: The walks back around that enterprise every day.
Speaker 1: She should be out there saying we've discovered this ways,
Speaker 1: that ways, here's another ten million, here's another one hundred million,
Speaker 1: where's the way.
Speaker 5: There is so much more scope in Australia to actually
Speaker 5: tackle this stuff than even America. The racial politics that
Speaker 5: we've had shoved down our throats in this country that
Speaker 5: the Australian is just rejected in a referendum. Have you
Speaker 5: heard anything about that from the coalition? That could have
Speaker 5: been another plank to.
Speaker 2: This, the waste of money cap Sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker 6: No, Well, I think that's right, and I think what
Speaker 6: we have to do is keep bringing up the Voice
Speaker 6: to Parliament referendum because that is a concrete reminder of
Speaker 6: the actual ideology driving the Labor government. It is radical,
Speaker 6: it is socialist, it is trying to fundamentally remake Australia
Speaker 6: and our institutions in their kind of critical race theory lens,
Speaker 6: and so that has to be brought up time and
Speaker 6: time again. We cannot let Australians forget. But it's interesting
Speaker 6: I feel like over the last two months Australians have
Speaker 6: forgotten the last three years and they've kind of just
Speaker 6: started accepting the Labor remind well, exactly exactly well to.
Speaker 5: Think Australians are forgotten, and it seems many members of
Speaker 5: the opposition have also forgotten because I have not seen
Speaker 5: such a lack luster campaign. We complained, while some of
Speaker 5: us complained on this panel. There was a bit of argument,
Speaker 5: but I thought it was absolutely shameful that it took
Speaker 5: the Liberal Party ten months to oppose the Voice formally
Speaker 5: that we remember they're on the fans more detail, weren't
Speaker 5: quite sure when on principle they should have rejected that
Speaker 5: toxic ideology, and they don't have ten months now. They
Speaker 5: needed to come out fighting. They needed to be very
Speaker 5: clear and who they were, what they stood for, and
Speaker 5: how that is different from labor because at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, you're asking Australians to throw out a
Speaker 5: first term government. Australians don't easily do that without good cause.
Speaker 5: So you better articulate what's wrong in this country, how
Speaker 5: much worse it's going to get under Anthony alb and
Speaker 5: easy and we're not seeing that. We have a new
Speaker 5: policy announcement today. We'll talk to Senator alexanderik about that later.
Speaker 5: More money up to twelve hundred dollars for households in
Speaker 5: a tax rebate, you know.
Speaker 7: What, buying votes.
Speaker 5: We should be a bit more sophisticated than that. Both
Speaker 5: parties can play that game. Both parties are playing that game.
Speaker 5: It's the easy cost of living election. But the way
Speaker 5: the Libs have approached that thus far, I'm not surprised
Speaker 5: the polls are turning against them. They really need to
Speaker 5: and it's showing. It's fracturing on the right. They've lost
Speaker 5: primary vote and that primary vote hasn't gone to Labor,
Speaker 5: it's gone to mind. And that is again those alarm
Speaker 5: bells that were ringing when Turnbull was in power and
Speaker 5: also when Morrison went to the election last time.
Speaker 1: And the point is that on issues you have to
Speaker 1: fight in an election, that you have to slam your
Speaker 1: opponent into the ground.
Speaker 2: You can't be agreeing with your opponent.
Speaker 1: And my point Frey is that on two fundamental issues
Speaker 1: Trump and net zero, the Coalition, rather than going have
Speaker 1: denied themselves the ability to go head on against Labor.
Speaker 1: So we saw the debates, so the three great debates
Speaker 1: here on Sky News Australia terrific. The standout was of
Speaker 1: course Angus Taylor and the financial debate against Jim Chalmers.
Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers looked like.
Speaker 1: A complete buffoon, clueless, didn't know what he was doing.
Speaker 2: Angus Taylor slammed him because he had his facts and
Speaker 2: his figures.
Speaker 1: But the trouble is if we're wandering around so by
Speaker 1: refusing to get out of Paris and say no to
Speaker 1: net zero. The Coalition have just got their hands behind
Speaker 1: their back. They've tied both their shoelacers together, that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, that handkerchief in their mouth against this mad,
Speaker 1: insane ideology. And I would say it's the same with Trump.
Speaker 1: They should have seen this coming and they should have
Speaker 1: gone hang on. So they're going to try and paint
Speaker 1: us as the Trumpers. We've got two choices, and only
Speaker 1: two choices. We either go you bet we are and
Speaker 1: you're not and that's why you cannot cope in the
Speaker 1: existing world going ahead, or yeah, oh sorry, Jacenta didn't
Speaker 1: mean to say what, Oh yeah, make Australia.
Speaker 2: Oh do we mean Australia you know? I mean you
Speaker 2: can't win an election by being timid.
Speaker 6: Yes, But then also maybe we're not giving them enough
Speaker 6: credit for some of the things they have differentiated themselves
Speaker 6: on the Voice campaign. Standing under one Flag Voice is.
Speaker 11: Done in Dustin, but Novant more about standing under one
Speaker 11: flag taking reforming the Migration Act so you could actually
Speaker 11: more easily deport criminals.
Speaker 6: Who can, especially anti Semitic crimes in Australia. There are
Speaker 6: multiple policies for gas plan nuclear. There are cutting one
Speaker 6: hundred billion dollars of waste, opposing the billions that they're
Speaker 6: going to spend on building new transmission lines for renewables.
Speaker 6: There are definitely points of difference, but yeah, a couple
Speaker 6: of those.
Speaker 5: You mentioned having a referendum so we can deport people
Speaker 5: who make anti Semitic comments. The last thing this country
Speaker 5: wants is another referendum. That was I think one of
Speaker 5: the dumbest policies that the coalition.
Speaker 6: But it doesn't have to be a referendum. You can
Speaker 6: also just amend the.
Speaker 5: My way it was presented was talk about another referendum,
Speaker 5: and I think that's why they haven't mentioned it since,
Speaker 5: because because no one.
Speaker 2: Wants a referendum.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to have this as a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Was to have more on it short later on in
Speaker 1: the show. But let's go now to America. So the
Speaker 1: center of the American Experiment, president himself, John Heindreka joins
Speaker 1: us now editor of the brilliant power Line blog.
Speaker 2: John, great to see you as always.
Speaker 1: Now we want to just touch on things to do
Speaker 1: with Trump and tariffs, but just give us your thoughts.
Speaker 2: There's you know, been our tariffs were on and they're off.
Speaker 1: I think I've always said the goal is China, Communist China,
Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. And I think finally
Speaker 1: we have a president or a leader of the free
Speaker 1: world who said, Okay, enough of the cheating, enough of
Speaker 1: the ripping everybody off, enough of the stealing intellectual property,
Speaker 1: enough of all of this thievery and not playing by
Speaker 1: the rules. You can only have a rules based order,
Speaker 1: a world, rules based order, if everybody plays by the rules.
Speaker 1: It's obvious to me, and Trump is tackling this.
Speaker 2: John Am I correct.
Speaker 12: Ron, you are absolutely right. You know there are two
Speaker 12: factions on trade in the White House. You got the
Speaker 12: tariff hawks, led by Peter Navarro, and they basically don't
Speaker 12: like it international trade. They want tariffs forever, high tariffs forever.
Speaker 12: And then you have the tariff doves, led by the
Speaker 12: Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bissent and others, and they
Speaker 12: view tariffs as a negotiating tool ultimately to get better,
Speaker 12: fairer trade deals for the United States. But they're not
Speaker 12: hostile to international trade. But the point you make is
Speaker 12: exactly correct. The real issue here is not trade with Australia.
Speaker 12: It's not even trade with the EU. It is trade
Speaker 12: with China, and for national security reasons, the United States
Speaker 12: must end its dependence on Chinese manufacturing. We can't run
Speaker 12: our military as things stand right now without goods from China.
Speaker 12: We can't. China is producing our pharmaceuticals for US. They
Speaker 12: could cut them off, you know, at any time. And
Speaker 12: so that's the change that really needs to be made,
Speaker 12: and that the Trump administration is in the process of baking.
Speaker 5: Well, the supply China issues are significant, and I think
Speaker 5: we found that out through COVID just how dependent all
Speaker 5: our economies have become on China for vital goods.
Speaker 7: But China is exposed here.
Speaker 5: The US is in a position where, yeah, China can
Speaker 5: slap tariffs on US products. The US's economy only eleven
Speaker 5: percent is represented by exports. It's a very low percentage
Speaker 5: compared to China and most other countries.
Speaker 7: Is this the chance, the only chance we.
Speaker 5: Have to bring China into line to make it behave
Speaker 5: like a good global citizen, because, as Rowan said, they
Speaker 5: steal intellectual property, they play by their own rules that
Speaker 5: are rogue nation when it comes to economic policy. How
Speaker 5: do you see this ending. Who's going to blink first?
Speaker 12: Well, Rita you know, China is being very aggressive right now.
Speaker 12: They're being aggressive economically, but they're also being aggressively aggressive militarily,
Speaker 12: and time is not on their side. And the next
Speaker 12: what is it, fifty years, forty years, China's population is
Speaker 12: going to decline by fifty percent, and so there's a
Speaker 12: real danger that they think their time is now to
Speaker 12: do things like invade Taiwan and to extend hegemony over
Speaker 12: over much of the world. This is a very serious situation,
Speaker 12: and I think in the neck of time, the Trump
Speaker 12: administration is really trying to shore up our position visa
Speaker 12: each China and weaken them as an adversary.
Speaker 6: And there's something called Ferguson's law which states that once
Speaker 6: a great power starts spending more on interest payments on
Speaker 6: debt than they do on defense, they won't be a
Speaker 6: great power for very long. So do you think that
Speaker 6: plays into it at all? Last year was the first
Speaker 6: time they spent more on interest than on defense. Is
Speaker 6: the tariff scheme about raising more money so they can
Speaker 6: start to pay down the debt and get those interest
Speaker 6: payments down.
Speaker 12: Well, maybe to some extent, but I think more fundamentally
Speaker 12: doge the effort to bring their federal budget under control
Speaker 12: is about having the money to spend where we need
Speaker 12: to spend it, and above all, that is our national defense.
Speaker 12: It is an absolute embarrassment that we have a thirty
Speaker 12: five trillion dollar national death that drew by two trillion
Speaker 12: dollars last year, and we're spending more on interest than
Speaker 12: we are on national defense. And so I think the
Speaker 12: real impetus behind the effort to cut down on wasteful
Speaker 12: government spending is to have the ability to spend that
Speaker 12: money where we really need it, and that is national defense.
Speaker 1: John I heard in Congress, I think it was yesterday
Speaker 1: day before, they were talking about Australia specifically and talking
Speaker 1: about August the arrangement between Australia, the United Kingdom and
Speaker 1: America on defense. So it's clearly top of mind there
Speaker 1: with the US the aucust agreement. How important is UCUS
Speaker 1: in terms of US negotiation, you know, lowering tariffs et cetera,
Speaker 1: the ten percent going forward? How important does the Australian relationship,
Speaker 1: John Well?
Speaker 12: I think it's important, Browan, and I certainly hope it's important.
Speaker 12: You know, we've got to distinguish between our friends and
Speaker 12: our enemies, right exactly it really is very much a friend,
Speaker 12: and I think the American people understand that. I think
Speaker 12: the vast majority of Americans look at some of this
Speaker 12: saber rattling that's going on with respected tariffs, and they
Speaker 12: get the point. They say, okay, all right. You know,
Speaker 12: the playing field has not been a level in some ways,
Speaker 12: it has not been advantageous to the United States. Trump
Speaker 12: wants a fair deal at the end of the day.
Speaker 12: I think he wants more international trade, not less, and
Speaker 12: he certainly wants that trade to be with our friends
Speaker 12: and our allies like Australia, and not with communist China.
Speaker 7: Now away from tariffs.
Speaker 5: There was an amusing story this week that the White
Speaker 5: House Presecretary, Caroline Levette has just put out a directive that.
Speaker 7: She won't respond to emails from journalist.
Speaker 5: Who announce their pronouns in their email signatures. She just said,
Speaker 5: these sorts of people aunt interested in facts. So while
Speaker 5: what I deal with them, I think it's a fantastic rule.
Speaker 7: What can you tell us about this.
Speaker 12: John Well, first of all, read it. It's very funny,
Speaker 12: am Caroline love It is doing a fantastic job as
Speaker 12: White House Press secretary, and right she said, look, If
Speaker 12: you put pronouns in your signature, it means you're not
Speaker 12: interested in truth, not interested in facts, you can't be
Speaker 12: a good reporter. I think there's something else going on
Speaker 12: here though. That's interesting. You know, the Liberals are always
Speaker 12: so confident that they're on the side of good, right,
Speaker 12: and when when when reporters do things like put pronouns
Speaker 12: in their emails signature, that's often referred to as virtue signaling, right,
Speaker 12: And I think it's important to stand up to them
Speaker 12: and say, no, what you're doing isn't good, it's bad.
Speaker 12: It's not a virtue, it's a vice, and just and
Speaker 12: come out and criticize it. Would say no, you're wrong
Speaker 12: about that. And that's what I like to see here.
Speaker 1: And also John Trump is demanding that UK universities which
Speaker 1: get funding from the US. A similar thing has happened
Speaker 1: here in Australia. They have to prove that they're not
Speaker 1: on the woke train, that they don't have all this
Speaker 1: de I nonsense. So we're talking, you know, at major
Speaker 1: British universities. We've had universities here running around like headless chucks, going,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we're going to have to ditch our
Speaker 1: pronouns and all of this, but Trumps serious is reshaped.
Speaker 1: He's taking the war on woke around the world.
Speaker 12: Well, Rowan, with all due respect to Australian universities or
Speaker 12: British universities, I don't know why we are supporting them.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, American.
Speaker 12: The American people are not crazy about supporting American universities.
Speaker 12: The things are going so I guarantee you they're going
Speaker 12: to be behind Trump if he wants to cut back
Speaker 12: on the support that we're giving to foreign university rita.
Speaker 5: Oh dear, Well, yeah, this is the whole part philosophy
Speaker 5: of Doge, isn't it. Why are Americans backing this stuff?
Speaker 5: How do you see the relationship with Elon Musk and
Speaker 5: Donald Trump. There was a lot of conjecture in the
Speaker 5: past week that Elon wants to exit the administration. He's
Speaker 5: got in significant business interest, that he should be focusing
Speaker 5: on what is his life span in the administration, because
Speaker 5: surely you can't expect the world's richest man to continue
Speaker 5: to work for free for the Trump administration.
Speaker 12: Well, Elon Musk was hired as a special government employee
Speaker 12: with I believe one hundred and thirty day tenure. Now,
Speaker 12: I suppose that could be extended or whatever, but it
Speaker 12: was never intended that Elon was going to be a
Speaker 12: long term employee of the federal government. And I think
Speaker 12: he's done an enormous amount of good in a short
Speaker 12: amount of time. Obviously, he has other interests he needs
Speaker 12: to tend to. What I hope is that his DOGE
Speaker 12: team remains and the DOGE were continues because it is
Speaker 12: vitally important. The amount of waste, the amount of outright
Speaker 12: fraud and corruption that they are to light is just unbelievable,
Speaker 12: and that effort really needs to continue.
Speaker 1: John, I forgot to mention at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: show that your pronouns are President and editor of Power.
Speaker 1: Great as always to chat to John, Heinderecher and thanks
Speaker 1: so much for coming on, and we'll speak again soon.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.
Speaker 1: After the break. What's more coming up? Rita's reality check.
Speaker 1: We need a reality check this morning from Rita.
Speaker 7: Welcome back.
Speaker 5: You're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan Dean frail Leach
Speaker 5: filling in for James Morrow, and I'm Rita Panahin. Soon
Speaker 5: we'll be speaking to Senator Alex Antick about fine tuning
Speaker 5: the coalition's election campaign. We have some ideas, don't we.
Speaker 5: But first I have fantastic news to impart. There is
Speaker 5: a cure for what I believed was he wants incurable
Speaker 5: condition of Stage four TDS, that Stage four Trump derangement syndrome,
Speaker 5: a serious condition that sadly afflicts almost all of the
Speaker 5: Australian media, rendering them idiotic and hysterical, regurgitating the most
Speaker 5: vacuous leftist talking points. And sadly, we've even seen early
Speaker 5: signs of TEDS afflicting a growing portion of so called
Speaker 5: center right commentators in Australia who are suddenly delivering the
Speaker 5: sort of shrill hysteria that passes for analysis on MSNBC.
Speaker 5: But the good news is there is a cure for TEDS.
Speaker 5: Just have a look at Bill Maher. This is the
Speaker 5: sort of lunacy he used to spread about Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: Here he is with another Stage four TDS sufferer, Robert
Speaker 5: de Niro.
Speaker 13: The guy is a total monster.
Speaker 2: He's such a mean, nasty, hateful person.
Speaker 14: That's what happens in that kind of a dictatorship, which
Speaker 14: is what he says. Let's believe take the matter his word.
Speaker 9: I did from the beginning. Yeah, I mean, I said
Speaker 9: from the very beginning, this guy is never going to
Speaker 9: concede power.
Speaker 5: You know, conservatives are guilty of the bigotry of low expectations.
Speaker 5: When it comes to old school lefties like Bill Maher,
Speaker 5: who are not completely deranged, we.
Speaker 7: Get terribly excited.
Speaker 5: At any time they repeat some talking point from the right,
Speaker 5: repeating verifiable facts, figures, or arguments that the right has
Speaker 5: been making for years. We stand around clapping like we've
Speaker 5: heard something profound. And Bill Maher is a prime example.
Speaker 5: Sure he calls out the worst excesses of the left,
Speaker 5: but he also says crap like this.
Speaker 9: He's an insurrection who doesn't believe in democracy, so of
Speaker 9: course it's bothering. I mean, and of course he's also
Speaker 9: insane and a criminal.
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's what he was saying about Donald Trump
Speaker 5: or too long ago. And here he is with Jane Fonda,
Speaker 5: so traumatized by the prospect of a second Trump.
Speaker 7: Term that he talks of about quitting his own show.
Speaker 2: I'm it's hard to believe.
Speaker 9: I mean, I may quit because I don't want to
Speaker 9: do another I did Trump, I did I did all
Speaker 9: the Trump stuff before anybody. I called him a con man,
Speaker 9: before anybody.
Speaker 14: I did.
Speaker 9: He's a mafia boss. I was the one who said
Speaker 9: he wasn't going to concede the election. I've done it.
Speaker 7: But Hallelujah, praise the Lord.
Speaker 5: Because two weeks ago, for reasons many don't fully understand,
Speaker 5: President Trump invited this hater to the White House for dinner.
Speaker 5: And this is what Bill Maher had to say to
Speaker 5: his mainly leftist audience overnight.
Speaker 9: I know as I say that, millions of liberal sphincters
Speaker 9: just tightened. Oh my god, Bill, are you going to
Speaker 9: say something nice about him? What I'm going to do
Speaker 9: is report exactly what happened. You decide what you think
Speaker 9: about it. And if that's not enough, pure Trump hate
Speaker 9: for you, I don't give a fought. Course, who doesn't.
Speaker 9: My friend said to me, what are you going to
Speaker 9: wear to the White House? I said, I don't know,
Speaker 9: but I'm not going to dress like Zelenski.
Speaker 13: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 9: I've had so many conversations with prominent people who were
Speaker 9: much less connected, people who don't look you in the eye,
Speaker 9: people don't really listen because they just want to get
Speaker 9: to their next thing. People whose response to things you
Speaker 9: say just doesn't track, like what none of that with him,
Speaker 9: and he mostly steered the conversation too. What do you
Speaker 9: think about this? I know your mind is blown, so
Speaker 9: was mine.
Speaker 5: That's just a sample of the thirteen minute monologue Mar
Speaker 5: delivered about his dinner with the president. Of course, Mar
Speaker 5: and Trump will continue to be ideologically opposed on most issues,
Speaker 5: and Mar will continue to criticize Trump.
Speaker 7: You promised to do that. But what you just heard is.
Speaker 5: A long way from the crazy hyperbole of the early
Speaker 5: eclipse I played of characterizing the President some sociopathic monster.
Speaker 5: Bill Maher got an insight into the man, not just
Speaker 5: the media characterture that men like him have helped propagate,
Speaker 5: and he also shared details of funny interactions between himself
Speaker 5: and the President.
Speaker 9: I had my staff collect and print out this list
Speaker 9: of almost sixty different insulting epithets that the President has
Speaker 9: said about me, things like stupid, dummy, low life, dummy, Sleezberg,
Speaker 9: sick said, stone cold crazy, really a dumb guy, furred
Speaker 9: like a dog, his show.
Speaker 12: Is dead.
Speaker 2: Sixty.
Speaker 9: I brought this to the White House because I wanted
Speaker 9: him to sign it, which he did.
Speaker 5: You got the impression that after this meeting, ma actually
Speaker 5: likes the president, a man who he has relentlessly attacked
Speaker 5: for a decade.
Speaker 9: I never felt I had to walk on eggshells around him.
Speaker 9: And honestly I voted for Clinton and Obama, but I
Speaker 9: would never feel comfortable talking to them the way I
Speaker 9: was able to talk with Donald Trump. So Maga fans,
Speaker 9: don't worry. Your boy gave me nothing, just hats hats
Speaker 9: and a very generous amount of time and a willingness
Speaker 9: to listen accept me as a possible friend even though
Speaker 9: I'm not Maga, which was the point of the dinner.
Speaker 9: My favorite part of the whole night was we were
Speaker 9: standing in the blowjob rope wor and he said, you know,
Speaker 9: I've heard from a lot of people who really liked
Speaker 9: that we're having this dinner. Not all, but a lot,
Speaker 9: And I said same. A lot of people told me
Speaker 9: they loved it, but not all. And we agreed. The
Speaker 9: people who don't even want us to talk, we don't
Speaker 9: like you.
Speaker 5: There you go, it starts with talking. I think we've
Speaker 5: just seen the birth of a toful new.
Speaker 7: Romance and a cure for TDS.
Speaker 1: That was fantastic, reader, And I think, going back to
Speaker 1: what we were talking about before.
Speaker 12: I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: If Bill Maher can be so warm and affectionate about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, even though he knows he'll probably be losing
Speaker 1: half his audience, why can't Peter Dutton, rather than freaking out,
Speaker 1: say the same thing, say I know Donald Trump, he's
Speaker 1: a great bloke.
Speaker 2: I want to be there. I want to be supporting
Speaker 2: the Americans, and the Americans will support us. That, Rita
Speaker 2: is what I would like to see.
Speaker 1: If Bill Maher can get over his TDS, I think
Speaker 1: so many Australian commentators and politicians should be doing the
Speaker 1: same thing.
Speaker 5: Rita, well, absolutely, But when it comes to Peter Dutton,
Speaker 5: it's about the policies.
Speaker 7: Silly, Well, it's about the policies. He's stupid, that's the line.
Speaker 5: And he could very easily pivot out of these attacks.
Speaker 5: These attacks, as you said, were completely predictable and he
Speaker 5: could have come up with a strategy of they can
Speaker 5: keep making these stupid comparisons. But you know what I'm
Speaker 5: like seeing. I like to see waste that has been exposed.
Speaker 5: I like to see this woke agenda being tackled. I
Speaker 5: like the fact that they've.
Speaker 7: Got rid of their illegal immigration problem within three weeks.
Speaker 7: If we can be that effective.
Speaker 5: You know, he could actually turn this around. He's on
Speaker 5: the front foot, not playing defense.
Speaker 2: And that's in an election. You have to be on
Speaker 2: the front foot on every single issue.
Speaker 6: And one of the things I really like about what
Speaker 6: Trump has managed to achieve in the US is just
Speaker 6: bringing together this broad coalition of people, former Democrats, people
Speaker 6: you wouldn't associate with being you know, on this you know,
Speaker 6: the right, but he's managed to bring them together and
Speaker 6: he's created this electric atmosphere. It's like the Avengers taking
Speaker 6: back the West. And I think that's great. We need
Speaker 6: some of that.
Speaker 1: Here absolutely, and it's called leadership. Speaking of a great
Speaker 1: politician in my opinion. Senator Alex Antik joins US now
Speaker 1: from South Australia. Actually I didn't realize until this week, Alex,
Speaker 1: I do apologize. I've been misnaming you all these years.
Speaker 1: According to Anthony Albanisi, you are, in fact the far
Speaker 1: right winger Alish and Chitch according to a press conference,
Speaker 1: and Chitch I had the misfortune of watching. So I
Speaker 1: do apologize if I mispronounced your name. I always thought
Speaker 1: it was Antick, but there you go. Albert knows better now,
Speaker 1: Alex how's the election campaign going, your thoughts on on
Speaker 1: on the latest things happening in the campaign, and also
Speaker 1: we gather today the Liberal Party is going to start
Speaker 1: handing money around, my money as it happens, and your
Speaker 1: money to all sorts of voters.
Speaker 15: Well, Rod, it's South Australia I think is tracking pretty well.
Speaker 15: We've got we've got Nicole Flint who's doing her usual
Speaker 15: hard work and tromendous job in Boothby, which is a
Speaker 15: critical seat, it's a very line ball seat. James Stevens
Speaker 15: of course has got a battle in Sturt. But we've
Speaker 15: spent a lot of time here in South Australia making
Speaker 15: sure that we're getting quality, true liberal grassroots candidates, people
Speaker 15: that fly the flag of liberal values, and we're doing that.
Speaker 15: Zane Bassic, but we should say, and I won't go
Speaker 15: into what you just said, but he's a good Croatian
Speaker 15: boy and he is a similar spelling you could probably
Speaker 15: spell his name in the same little way. But he's
Speaker 15: doing a great job up in the hills in Mayo,
Speaker 15: someone that can really be trusted with our values as well.
Speaker 15: But the really interesting battle's here in South Australia is
Speaker 15: the battle for the northern seats, so we're talking about
Speaker 15: people that know South Australia seats like Spence and Macon
Speaker 15: which is the old manufacturing belt of Holden Elizabeth. We're
Speaker 15: talking about places like Golden Grove in Macon. But we've
Speaker 15: got two tremendous candidates out there. Daniel Wilde is the
Speaker 15: person that to be known to audiences Spence and he
Speaker 15: is about as true blue liberal as you will get.
Speaker 15: He's been out on the ground for months. He's been
Speaker 15: talking to people and learning, unsurprisingly that people out there,
Speaker 15: having voted Labor most of their life, are thoroughly sick
Speaker 15: of being treated in the manner they've been treated. They're
Speaker 15: manufacturing credentials nil. The Labor Party has effectively chalked this
Speaker 15: and probably presumably other similar blue collar seats up on
Speaker 15: their wind board, and Dan wild is taking it to
Speaker 15: them in a very serious way. He makes the point,
Speaker 15: of course, that this is a seats that was the
Speaker 15: launch of the Voice campaign for Yes. So Anthony Albinisi
Speaker 15: when different Albanese was out there in Spa in Spence
Speaker 15: a year and a half ago launching the campaign and
Speaker 15: guess what they voted seventy two percent No to the
Speaker 15: voice in that elector. So it shows that Labor have
Speaker 15: misread this seat. And of course there's also the other
Speaker 15: northern seat of Macon where we have IRENA's Zaghlidov, who
Speaker 15: is literally born in the Soviet Union, has come to
Speaker 15: Australia for a better life and now says, I'm starting
Speaker 15: to see the things out here in this country, big government,
Speaker 15: the creep of authoritarianism that I never thought i'd see
Speaker 15: in Australia. And I left the Soviet Union. And in fact,
Speaker 15: funny story, she was at a shopping set, as she
Speaker 15: has been for months and months and months on end,
Speaker 15: and a person came up to her and told her that,
Speaker 15: you know, she shouldn't be a liberal because socialism was great.
Speaker 15: And she stopped and she hadn't obviously hadn't heard the
Speaker 15: accent at that point said in her big Eastern accent,
Speaker 15: I lived in the Soviet Union talking about so you know,
Speaker 15: this is a sort of interaction people in that part
Speaker 15: of Adelaide. This is the interesting one to watch, very
Speaker 15: interesting to watch, a little bit like we saw in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 15: Pennsylvania in the United States, where we had this you know,
Speaker 15: coterie of disaffected ex manufacturing people. They just they're just
Speaker 15: interested in the cost of living. They're not interested in labours, woke,
Speaker 15: inner city politics.
Speaker 1: Well, Daniel Wilde's an outstanding candiday of course, well known
Speaker 1: to Sky years. He's been on Outside as he's on
Speaker 1: many of the shows, regular on Credlin and Bolton, so on,
Speaker 1: terrific bloke, fantastic candidate. Tourney Abbot popped up there the
Speaker 1: other day to sort of walk the streets with them.
Speaker 1: And yet one hundred percent they're both outstanding candidates.
Speaker 2: Reader, Well, you.
Speaker 5: Talked about seventy two percent of that formally safe labor
Speaker 5: seat voting. No, do you think the liberals have misread
Speaker 5: how important these cultural issues are because we're not hearing
Speaker 5: a great deal about this and this is a way
Speaker 5: where you.
Speaker 7: Can really isolate labor who have.
Speaker 5: Veered so far left on some of these issues that
Speaker 5: are just out of the mainstream opinion. But we're not
Speaker 5: hearing the alternative point of view from the coalition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I got reader.
Speaker 15: I think the first thing to note is that when
Speaker 15: you look at the numbers and the polling in every
Speaker 15: seat around Australia, the number one issue is cost of living.
Speaker 15: So I think we need to accept that that that
Speaker 15: is what people are interested in, and of course the
Speaker 15: underlo and so you know, I think the vast majority
Speaker 15: of that campaign is focused on that, and Peter is
Speaker 15: extremely focused on that. A large section of that, of course,
Speaker 15: or I would say the majority section of that is
Speaker 15: the cost of power, which of course we're tackling with
Speaker 15: the gas reservations and the nuclear plan and these sorts
Speaker 15: of things. So I think we have to be clear
Speaker 15: about that. I of course spend too much time probably
Speaker 15: in the battle of culture wars, because I think it
Speaker 15: is important and I think that does flow through to
Speaker 15: the Liberal Party. I mean, you know, we've seen the
Speaker 15: battle for the Voice, We've seen all of those things.
Speaker 15: But in a short campaign like this, I mean, I
Speaker 15: think we do have to be laser like focused on
Speaker 15: the cost of living as an issue, because this is
Speaker 15: the thing people are talking about. When I'm out talking
Speaker 15: to people over the last few weeks, in the lead
Speaker 15: up to this campaign and in the campaign, that's all
Speaker 15: they want to talk about. Yes, they're interested in all
Speaker 15: the stuff we're all interested in as well, the ideology
Speaker 15: and the schools, and we're covering all of that as well,
Speaker 15: But the main game is the fact that people we
Speaker 15: can't afford groceries anymore, and I get that, sorry.
Speaker 6: Yrap, And so you talk about the cost of living
Speaker 6: alex Over the last three years under Labor, we have
Speaker 6: had the worst decline in living standards in the developed world,
Speaker 6: the worst decline in Australian history. You would think that
Speaker 6: the only question we would have to ask Australians is
Speaker 6: do you feel better off than you did three years ago?
Speaker 6: And the answer for most people would be absolutely not.
Speaker 6: Yet now we're seeing Labor run this health medi scare
Speaker 6: campaign and people seem to be buying it. So has
Speaker 6: there been some sort of living standard amnesia? Have we
Speaker 6: just forgotten the last three years or what's going on.
Speaker 16: Now?
Speaker 15: Look, there certainly hasn't been any amnesia a mesia from
Speaker 15: people I'm talking to, But it is a good question.
Speaker 15: I mean, Labor, we've seen all this week Labor have
Speaker 15: been very good at their politics. I think we have
Speaker 15: to remember that Labor, wherever you go, state level, federal level,
Speaker 15: they get the messaging right, they get the politics right,
Speaker 15: and they are atrocious at the government angle of it.
Speaker 15: So people need to remember that. Don't be fooled by
Speaker 15: you know, you know the local messaging, which is, you know,
Speaker 15: you just want things the way they are, you know,
Speaker 15: like people are being gas lit on this stuff. You know,
Speaker 15: this is a government that's out telling you that your
Speaker 15: power prices are not a problem. They told us it
Speaker 15: was going to be two hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 15: off your power bills, and of course it's gone up
Speaker 15: something like three times. So people need to be conscious
Speaker 15: of that. There is an attempt I think, to rewrite
Speaker 15: history as you would expect out of a Labor government,
Speaker 15: and people I have to say, I haven't forgotten that message.
Speaker 15: They just need to, I guess, get to the line
Speaker 15: in the next three weeks and we'll find that there
Speaker 15: are I think an increasing number of people whose focus
Speaker 15: comes back to that.
Speaker 7: I actually pointed out.
Speaker 5: And everyone accepts that cost of living is the number
Speaker 5: one issue. We have had a significant decline in living standards,
Speaker 5: and yet people are not blamed Anthony Albanezi for that.
Speaker 7: The polling is clear on that. In fact, since the election.
Speaker 5: Campaign started, Labor have strengthened their positions. So how is
Speaker 5: the coalition failing to communicate that and how is this
Speaker 5: one off tax cut up to twelve hundred dollars for
Speaker 5: individuals going to counter that narrative because this just again
Speaker 5: seems to be a vote buying exercise.
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, I think it highlights how difficult it
Speaker 15: is to knock off a first term government. I mean,
Speaker 15: if they have all the run on the media, they've
Speaker 15: spend all the government advertising and spent the last three
Speaker 15: years telling us it's all all right and that it's
Speaker 15: everyone else's fault. I mean, when you look at the
Speaker 15: press conferences the Prime Minister has, he says the words
Speaker 15: Peter Dutton about seventy timeslos that the last string of
Speaker 15: government's about forty two times. So we can't underestimate how
Speaker 15: difficult that is to face, particularly in opposition, because the
Speaker 15: media do want to hear from whoever the Prime Minister
Speaker 15: is at the time, and the opposition leader always faces
Speaker 15: an uphill battle. But look, Peter is working around the
Speaker 15: clock on this and the team is doing it's absolutely
Speaker 15: best to get that messaging across. There are lots of
Speaker 15: good grassroots members as well. People are by the way,
Speaker 15: going to win this election in their own electorates as well,
Speaker 15: and we're pretty confident we've got people on the ground.
Speaker 15: I mean, I can certainly say that here in South Australia,
Speaker 15: if you're voting Liberal, you're getting a good, true Liberal
Speaker 15: candidate and that's what that's the best we can do
Speaker 15: in terms of getting the message across well.
Speaker 1: As I say, Alex, I was thrilled when Anthony Albanez
Speaker 1: he started criticizing you as being some mad, crazy right
Speaker 1: winger destroying the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Let's have many more Alexantiks in the Liberal Party, I say.
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, and good luck to your two candidates there,
Speaker 1: Daniel and Lucia. They sound fantastic, great Alexandik there and
Speaker 1: top load there. And after the break we've got Lefty lunacy,
Speaker 1: we've got wacademia, We've got so much more netsany here
Speaker 1: on Outsiders. You're watching Outsiders, and thank you so much
Speaker 1: for watching us every Sunday morning. We certainly do appreciate
Speaker 1: it well, Lefty lunacy. One of the loonies of the
Speaker 1: left is, of course Chris Bowen, the member for McMahon
Speaker 1: that's out in Sydney's Western suburbs. He looks reater like
Speaker 1: he might be in a spot of trouble. They're saying
Speaker 1: that Chris Bowen might lose his seat. Now there's a
Speaker 1: negative to Chris Bowen losing his seat, and that is
Speaker 1: the greatest electoral asset the Liberal Party has. But other
Speaker 1: than that, it would be doing Australians I think a
Speaker 1: great benefit.
Speaker 5: As a great asset that the Liberals don't probably use.
Speaker 5: I mean, he should be in just liberal ads all
Speaker 5: over social media or all over mainstream media. But yeah,
Speaker 5: this Compass polling shows that he's in a favorit of trouble.
Speaker 7: If this polling is accurate, he is.
Speaker 2: Gone.
Speaker 5: I mean if his primary is that low, we're talking
Speaker 5: about nineteen percent primary vote for a senior minister, so
Speaker 5: that is diabolical.
Speaker 7: And he's being challenged.
Speaker 5: By a local there who's a very successful tech millionaire,
Speaker 5: Matt cabin Zuli. So it will be fascinating to see
Speaker 5: what happens there. You say he's a great asset for
Speaker 5: the Liberal Party, You're right there, But he has I
Speaker 5: think been the most destructive minister in the Albanize Matt Camanson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Matt caman Zuli up there on the screen
Speaker 1: there now, So he's the one with the forty one percent.
Speaker 2: Rita. I had him on.
Speaker 1: Your favorite show, the world according to Ruin Den, which
Speaker 1: she watched on seven after Mike Month, which is before
Speaker 1: your show, yes, and then your Chef.
Speaker 2: But he was on and the point he was making.
Speaker 1: The point he was making is that common sense and
Speaker 1: jobs is what's needed out in Western Sydney and the
Speaker 1: Chris Bowen and his insane zero pursuit is destroying jobs.
Speaker 1: That is why camon Zuli is so popular there. He's
Speaker 1: saying let's get the jobs from exactly.
Speaker 6: And in the polling, I believe they also found that
Speaker 6: cost of living and energy with some of the top concerns.
Speaker 6: And of course energy is critical because high energy prices
Speaker 6: push up inflation throughout the supply chain. Energy is life,
Speaker 6: Energy is the economy. If you get that wrong, everything
Speaker 6: else goes wrong. And their destruction of our energy system
Speaker 6: is destroying the fundamentals of the Australian economy. So it
Speaker 6: doesn't matter how many seventy cent a day tax cuts
Speaker 6: labor gives you. If energy prices are high, if our
Speaker 6: grid is unstable, if we're facing imminent blackouts, as energy
Speaker 6: regulators have warned, well nothing else will work.
Speaker 2: And let's have a look at Chris Bowen. Sorry at
Speaker 2: Alban Easy?
Speaker 1: Who when who was asked to apologize for the fact
Speaker 1: that they won the last election Albanizi and Bowen by
Speaker 1: promising a nearly one hundred times this two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars reduction in your bills complete opposite prices
Speaker 1: have gone up by as much as thirteen hundred as
Speaker 1: we saw in the debates great debates on the on sky.
Speaker 1: Any attempt to try and get them to apologize for
Speaker 1: that lie or they skittered away from it.
Speaker 2: But here's Alban Easy.
Speaker 1: Guess who he blames when he's asked to apologize for
Speaker 1: that lie.
Speaker 2: Orry's not a word heard much from politicians.
Speaker 17: Prime Minister, is there anything you'd like to apologize for,
Speaker 17: such as not delivering the one and seventy five dollars
Speaker 17: reduction in power bill?
Speaker 4: The fact is that Peter Dutton is pretending. He never
Speaker 4: said sorry, He never said sorry, How do you go over?
Speaker 1: Will you apologize and not delivering two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: five dollars right?
Speaker 2: Well, Peter dut hasn't apologized.
Speaker 5: For what pretending pretending and he is not sorry for
Speaker 5: pretending Peter Dutty, that's.
Speaker 7: You know what, that's fantastic.
Speaker 5: You can't have a go at the Prime Minister for
Speaker 5: that because he doesn't have a leg to stand on
Speaker 5: because he did say it one hundred times. He's now
Speaker 5: completely disowned that modeling. The modeling that he told us
Speaker 5: was the most comprehensive ever undertaken, and he was going
Speaker 5: to show energy prices plummeting. We all know what energy
Speaker 5: prices have done. We all pay gas electricity bills.
Speaker 7: And that's the way you answer a question.
Speaker 5: And you know what he's getting away with it, So
Speaker 5: you can only respect that kind of hoodspa.
Speaker 18: Well.
Speaker 1: I also want to show, jumping ahead a little bit,
Speaker 1: Chris Bowen pitching home batteries.
Speaker 2: So I have a listen to this. Here we go.
Speaker 1: This is Chris Bowen and he's telling us all about
Speaker 1: these great home batteries. That is part of the big
Speaker 1: deal they're going to give everyone. I think it's four
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for they're going to give you four thousand
Speaker 1: dollars if you put batteries in your home to help
Speaker 1: this endless renewables Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 2: Terry is pitching it.
Speaker 19: Have a listen these compare your remote control for your
Speaker 19: kitch choice, but dish compower your house a reelective. Albinizia
Speaker 19: government is going to introduce the chicker Home Backfish policy,
Speaker 19: which is a twenty percent.
Speaker 1: Discount on the cost of average typical household battery. They're
Speaker 1: pushing this whole scam, Liam Bartlet's a Channel seven and
Speaker 1: so superb expose of what it really means to have
Speaker 1: home batteries and back car battery factories and the destruction
Speaker 1: of the environment in other places around the world. We're
Speaker 1: going to come back lots more to talk about with
Speaker 1: Professor Ian Plymer in a tich, but we're going to
Speaker 1: take a short break back.
Speaker 2: Here on Outsiders in a tick.
Speaker 1: Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahe, myself, Rwandan and
Speaker 1: freyer Leech filling in for James Morrow. Great to have
Speaker 1: Freya here on the show.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of designing a new board
Speaker 1: game for families to play over the East Long Weekend
Speaker 1: based on the popular kids game Where's Wally where you
Speaker 1: have to search amongst the crowd for Wally, and the
Speaker 1: gag for my new version was going to be called
Speaker 1: Where's Jacinta We're in the middle of a federal election
Speaker 1: that the Coalition must win. And the last time the
Speaker 1: Coalition had a substantial victory I winning it was, of
Speaker 1: course the voice, and a pivotal member of that winning
Speaker 1: team was Senator Jacenta Nampa jimper Price.
Speaker 2: But where is she?
Speaker 1: I've been asking myself, where are they hiding her? We
Speaker 1: did catch a glimpse or two of the last week
Speaker 1: in Darwin, peering over Peter Dutton's shoulder.
Speaker 2: Then she vanished again, and then I.
Speaker 1: Thought I saw her for a brief second when Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton kicked that football. But then whoops, the football hit
Speaker 1: some photographer on the head and the damn photographer took
Speaker 1: all the attention away from Jacenter again.
Speaker 2: Look at this job, punch.
Speaker 1: But the good news is Jacenter is back where she
Speaker 1: belongs now in front of the coalition campaign.
Speaker 20: In January, Jasita Price said that the public service Price,
Speaker 20: you should say, she does a great job.
Speaker 2: The amazing just Center.
Speaker 1: Price has reappeared in quite brilliantly this week. What was
Speaker 1: interesting was the usual suspects were there in Western Australia
Speaker 1: protesting about Jacinta's presence, proving as if it needed proving
Speaker 1: that the last thing Australians want is more indigenous activists
Speaker 1: pushing the whole nonsense about the voice. The more the
Speaker 1: public sees of the people who were opposed to Jesus Center,
Speaker 1: the more likely you're going to win coalition. But inside,
Speaker 1: Jacinta did what Peter Dutton is terrified to do, but
Speaker 1: which many Australians are desperate for the Coalition to do.
Speaker 1: She inadvertently or otherwise channel Donald Trump.
Speaker 8: I'm so proud to be able to stand beside and
Speaker 8: to ensure that we can make Australia right again, that
Speaker 8: we can bring Australia back towards former glory, that we
Speaker 8: can get Australia back on track.
Speaker 1: Now, this of course drove the left even more nuts,
Speaker 1: with Letika Burke tweeting does.
Speaker 2: The Coalition have a death wish?
Speaker 1: The prevailing narrative in the media you see is that
Speaker 1: any association with Trump is toxic and will damage the coalition.
Speaker 1: This is the line that the ABC immediately tried to peddle.
Speaker 13: But those remarks that you know you'd pledge to make
Speaker 13: Australia great again.
Speaker 7: Is that a message that you think is helpful to
Speaker 7: the coalition at this point in.
Speaker 14: The campaign next one.
Speaker 12: There's a reaser of.
Speaker 21: Benefit being linked to commentary that's linked to Donald Trump.
Speaker 20: I think I've explained what our position is, and that
Speaker 20: is that we want to help families.
Speaker 1: Indeed, Peter duttoner and they ever mentions Trump these days
Speaker 1: to criticize them, which in my opinion is a massive error.
Speaker 20: I was disgusted with the scenes out of the White
Speaker 20: House in relation to presidents and lens Keep.
Speaker 1: So what the Coalition should be stating is very simple.
Speaker 1: Of course, we want to make Australia great again, don't you.
Speaker 1: I have repeatedly said the Coalition should have embraced Trump
Speaker 1: and his playbook in order to be able to say
Speaker 1: only the Coalition can make Australia strong and prosperous in
Speaker 1: this new era of Trump. Because we are close to
Speaker 1: him ideologically and we agree with him on most issues,
Speaker 1: we can communicate him with him, unlike Labor, who can't
Speaker 1: even get Trump.
Speaker 2: On the phone. It's such an obvious message.
Speaker 1: Dutton should have been on a plane to Washington the
Speaker 1: day after the November fifth election. Instead, the Coalition boffins
Speaker 1: and advisors and ooh focus grips in in it. They
Speaker 1: played straight into Labour's hands, straight into him.
Speaker 2: So we shall see over the next two weeks.
Speaker 1: But at the coalitions, let's distance ourselves from Trump to
Speaker 1: please the ABC and the Sydney Morning Herald.
Speaker 2: Strategy bears fruit it better.
Speaker 1: Bringing just center out, in my opinion, the smartest thing
Speaker 1: the Coalition can do, and the fact they've done it now,
Speaker 1: so late in the campaign and when things are not
Speaker 1: going great for them tells you all you need to know.
Speaker 1: And the more people here just to speak over the
Speaker 1: next three weeks, the likelier a coalition victory you're left
Speaker 1: at very late guys. In the meantime, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about a TV show I've been meaning to talk
Speaker 1: about for a while, but I didn't want to spoil
Speaker 1: it for people who haven't got around to watching it yet,
Speaker 1: So spoiler alert. If you haven't watched Adolescens yet, my
Speaker 1: tip is watched the first three episodes. They are brilliant,
Speaker 1: with superb scriptwriting, acting, directing, these long, amazing single takes
Speaker 1: which just boggle the mind from a craftsmanship point of view,
Speaker 1: but give the final episode the big miss. It's woke
Speaker 1: self flagellation on steroids and completely destroys the genius of
Speaker 1: the first three episodes.
Speaker 2: But it's even worse than that. The film is a
Speaker 2: work of fiction.
Speaker 1: It is based very loosely on a couple of genuine events,
Speaker 1: but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: What has happened is that the.
Speaker 1: So called moral of the story is now being used
Speaker 1: to pursue a hard left political agenda, even though it's fiction,
Speaker 1: and even though I would argue there is a massive
Speaker 1: lie behind this so called morality tale without giving it
Speaker 1: away totally. The idea of adolescence is that if young
Speaker 1: innocent boys in caring everyday families are allowed to spend
Speaker 1: too much time on.
Speaker 22: Social media, they will be radicalized like all sorts of
Speaker 22: right wing misogynistic hate speech, and that that in turn
Speaker 22: will lead them to go around murdering girls who won't go.
Speaker 2: Out with them. Yeah, right now.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to write a TV series about that,
Speaker 1: but it's entirely another for the major political discourse of
Speaker 1: the day to be based around a work of fiction.
Speaker 1: It would be as ludicrous as if, say, someone in
Speaker 1: the Green So I don't know Sarah Hanson Young, for example,
Speaker 1: made a speech about the treatment of asilum seekers based
Speaker 1: on what she'd seen on an episode of Sea Patrol.
Speaker 1: Oh hang on, she did anyway, And yes, it does
Speaker 1: seem that crazy left wingers can't distinguish reality from fiction,
Speaker 1: because British Prime Minister so Kiss Starmer did exactly that,
Speaker 1: leading a debate about white male adolescence on what he
Speaker 1: had seen on this documentary before correcting him and saying, oh,
Speaker 1: or drama or whatever it is.
Speaker 23: Home, we are watching adolescents with our children. I've got
Speaker 23: a sixteen year old boy and a fourteen year old girl.
Speaker 23: It's a very very good documentary to watchual drama. The
Speaker 23: violence carried out by young men influenced by what they
Speaker 23: see online is a real problem. It's abhorrent and we
Speaker 23: have to tackle it.
Speaker 2: No, kiir, it's a documentary.
Speaker 1: It's a piece of fiction, and a dangerous fiction when
Speaker 1: employed by the left, and.
Speaker 2: It's a borrent what you lot are doing with it.
Speaker 1: You are now using it to accuse young British predominantly
Speaker 1: white males being some disgusting species festering in an online
Speaker 1: swamp of right wing toxicity, who need to be censored
Speaker 1: by the state and even drugged by the state with
Speaker 1: rittleen to prevent them from committing unspeakable horrors against women.
Speaker 1: Keir Starmer's government is now demanding that the viewing of
Speaker 1: Adolescence is made compulsory in all high schools, and even
Speaker 1: the BBC arrival of Netflix is urging viewers to watch
Speaker 1: the series even though it's on Netflix, and Starmer even
Speaker 1: invited the producers of the series to Downing Street.
Speaker 24: Many people don't know how to respond to the devastating
Speaker 24: effect of misogyny on our Society's very powerful the datas
Speaker 24: of online radicalization and the sense of young people being
Speaker 24: on their own, very often in.
Speaker 12: Their bedroom or wherever.
Speaker 24: It shows how easily our children are drawn in and
Speaker 24: they are just that's the.
Speaker 12: Other thing that's very very striking.
Speaker 24: These are children, These are young people, and that sense
Speaker 24: which is why I think my friend of the end
Speaker 24: couldn't watch it any longer, which is it could almost
Speaker 24: happen to anyone.
Speaker 1: Could happen to anyone, right, any and every young middle
Speaker 1: class teenage boy who listen to a podcast that says
Speaker 1: not all girls like all boys might fly into a
Speaker 1: murderous rage.
Speaker 2: What codswallop.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what could happen to anyone, especially
Speaker 1: in Britain and Europe is that they might be selected
Speaker 1: at random to be the nie form Machette victim of
Speaker 1: a radicalized, deranged Islamis or someone interested in Islamis terrorism
Speaker 1: who believes it's his duty to kill white girls, such
Speaker 1: as occurred in Britain last year, and it seemed everything
Speaker 1: was done at the time first to prevent people knowing
Speaker 1: anything about the identity of the murderer and his radicalized ideology.
Speaker 1: No debates in Parliament immediately following the event, no mandatory
Speaker 1: watching of the horrific news reports. Only now has the
Speaker 1: public inquiry under that event begun.
Speaker 2: So now in the UK under Labor, fact is censored,
Speaker 2: but fiction is promoted as the truth.
Speaker 1: MPs in our calling for an age ban on social media,
Speaker 1: citing the Australian laws or nice as a precedence to
Speaker 1: be followed personally, I smell a political rat.
Speaker 2: Why are young white.
Speaker 1: Men and their online viewing habits being demonized?
Speaker 2: The reality is, of course, that it.
Speaker 1: Is racial hatred's and tensions fueled entirely by the left,
Speaker 1: that is the overwhelming cause of Britain's appalling knife stabbings
Speaker 1: and crime sprees. Not to mention the appalling Pakistani grooming
Speaker 1: and rape gangs. That Starmer needs to be investigating black gangs,
Speaker 1: Muslim gangs, and yes, of course white gangs are making
Speaker 1: Britain a nightmarish hellhole for many people.
Speaker 2: But it is a breakdown in social.
Speaker 1: Cohesion fueled by out of control immigration and welfare ism
Speaker 1: that is to blame, along with misguided, woke policing practices
Speaker 1: in my opinion, not podcasters or online social media in
Speaker 1: its it is discipline that is needed back in the
Speaker 1: classroom with male teachers need to return to the classroom
Speaker 1: to provide male mentorship. That's what's needed, not all let's
Speaker 1: sit around and watch Netflix show. The joke is that
Speaker 1: the debate in Britain is now so completely off the
Speaker 1: rails that Kemy Badenoch, the leader of the Conservative partner
Speaker 1: and party in herself, the daughter of immigrants to Britain,
Speaker 1: was berated by the BBC for not having watched this
Speaker 1: piece of fiction, which incidentally the offerable BBC hosts insist
Speaker 1: on calling a documentary.
Speaker 2: Have you watched Adolescens yet?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't, I probably won't.
Speaker 25: It's a film on Netflix and most of my time
Speaker 25: right now is spent visiting the country.
Speaker 26: It's a four part series on Netflix, and everyone is
Speaker 26: talking about it. It is prompting conversations about toxic masculinity,
Speaker 26: smartphone news, young men feeling that they're being ignored, the
Speaker 26: idea of misogyny being increased in school. Why would you
Speaker 26: not want to know what people are talking about.
Speaker 25: Well, I think that those are all important issues, and
Speaker 25: those are issues that I've been talking about for a
Speaker 25: long time. But in the same way that I don't
Speaker 25: need to watch Casualty to know what's going on in
Speaker 25: the NHS, I don't need to watch a specific Netflix
Speaker 25: drama to understand what's going on. It's a fictional it's
Speaker 25: a fictional series. It is not a documentary.
Speaker 26: The difference this documentary has made compared to say politician,
Speaker 26: any policy leader of a party, the Prime minister going
Speaker 26: around talking in schools, is this has made much more
Speaker 26: of an impact than any politician has.
Speaker 25: One of the things that I'm more bothered by is
Speaker 25: the fact that just yesterday we had Labor telling us
Speaker 25: that they're not going to be investigating the rape gang scandal,
Speaker 25: something which had happened all across the country. That's real,
Speaker 25: that's happening right now. We're not talking about that. We're
Speaker 25: talking about a fictional documentary.
Speaker 2: I think we have think.
Speaker 25: Thousands of if I may just finished, we had thousands
Speaker 25: of victims, female victims. There's a girls, young women, and
Speaker 25: some boys too. I met the mother of a boy
Speaker 25: who killed himself after being a victim. I want to
Speaker 25: talk about that because that is real. And yes, of
Speaker 25: course we should be talking about misogyny. The rape gang
Speaker 25: scandal is one of the most misogynistic incidents that has
Speaker 25: happened in our country. I don't need to watch a
Speaker 25: specific show to know what is going on in this country.
Speaker 25: It's a fictional show. Let's talk about what's real. I'm
Speaker 25: going out there every day. I have constituents coming to
Speaker 25: me telling me what they're worried about. I had a
Speaker 25: colleague and MP who was murdered due to Islamic terrorism.
Speaker 25: Look at what's happened in Southport. You look at what's
Speaker 25: happening in Rotherham in order there are real issues. I'm
Speaker 25: getting out there talking about it, asking me to sit
Speaker 25: down and watch a television drama that lots of other
Speaker 25: people have seen, have written about, have told me about.
Speaker 25: I know what it's about. I think it is important,
Speaker 25: but it was also it's also.
Speaker 1: Fiction, indeed, because in these days of authoritarian, left wing,
Speaker 1: woke power mad governments, they would far rather we sensor
Speaker 1: reality and just focus on fiction. Geologist professor Ian Plymer
Speaker 1: joins us now live in the studio.
Speaker 2: Ian, great to have you here. Now.
Speaker 1: You were at an event yesterday which I promoted on
Speaker 1: the world according to Rowan Dean, which is reader's favorite
Speaker 1: program at the moment, on television at seven o'clock on Fridays,
Speaker 1: you were supposed to appear alongside a teal.
Speaker 2: Well, you're alongside a teal this morning.
Speaker 1: Inadvertently you were supposed to appeal with the teal to
Speaker 1: debate climate change. You are a world famous climate skeptic
Speaker 1: or realist. I would say, did put us all out
Speaker 1: of our suspensey and did the teal Zari Steggles show
Speaker 1: up at the debates in deary, Well, of course not.
Speaker 13: Why would Zari Steggle want to take me on when
Speaker 13: she's got emotion and lies and I actually used data.
Speaker 13: So it was a meeting of liberal refugees who are
Speaker 13: in the Libertarian Party. Was organized by Craig Kelly, who
Speaker 13: is the Libertarian Senate candidate for New South Wales, and
Speaker 13: he has been a previous Lower House member in New
Speaker 13: South Wales and there are a couple hundred people there
Speaker 13: and they were eagerly awaiting their local member, who has
Speaker 13: a duty to actually explain herself, explain why farmers in
Speaker 13: rural Australia are having these power lines put through their land,
Speaker 13: having all the good cropping lands killed off with solar farms,
Speaker 13: having wonderful landscapes destroyed by wind turbines. It was her
Speaker 13: duty to explain why those farmers have to suffer and
Speaker 13: why she didn't support having these turbines all along the
Speaker 13: waterfront for Manly, right up to Palm Beach. She didn't
Speaker 13: turn up, but instead there was one of her flunkies
Speaker 13: that came and he was an eminently forgettable unknown person
Speaker 13: who claimed he had a degree in physics. In his debate,
Speaker 13: and I use that word very generously, he was arguing
Speaker 13: that we're going to fry and die, which is wrong.
Speaker 13: The data doesn't show that. He was arguing that sea
Speaker 13: levels are going to rise, which is wrong. The data
Speaker 13: doesn't show that. Even just behind the venue, we've got
Speaker 13: evidence that sea level had fallen by a couple of meters.
Speaker 13: This was all due to us. We all had to
Speaker 13: bear this massive cost of additional power because of the
Speaker 13: climate policies which Zalie Steviel supported. And he was absolutely
Speaker 13: torn apart by a couple of people in the audience
Speaker 13: who asked him really simple questions like, well, shame me
Speaker 13: the evidence He couldn't do it. One person wanted to
Speaker 13: know what would it take to change your mind? And
Speaker 13: in effect it was nothing, because he was wallowing in
Speaker 13: this world that's going to end and we're all going
Speaker 13: to fry and die and we're going to suffer for
Speaker 13: our sins.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was quite amusing.
Speaker 7: It is a religious like fervor.
Speaker 5: I have so to suggest for them to challenge that
Speaker 5: sort of thinking is not going to happen. What do
Speaker 5: you make of some of the ads the global warming
Speaker 5: alarmist are running featuring children, because I know this is
Speaker 5: an interest of yours, the way young Australians are being
Speaker 5: traumatized by fears that the world's going to end. There
Speaker 5: is such a thing as climate anxiety, and it afflicts
Speaker 5: young children who've had this nonsense drilled into their heads,
Speaker 5: fought for years.
Speaker 13: Well, it's been a long term process of devaluing knowledge
Speaker 13: and dumbing down our education system. It's been happening for
Speaker 13: half a century. The end result of that, if we've
Speaker 13: got teachers with atars or thirty nine, then you go
Speaker 13: into university and get trained as teachers. God help us.
Speaker 13: And the end result of these kids who are traumatized,
Speaker 13: they don't fall out of trees and break their arm.
Speaker 13: They don't end up getting covered in dirt. These kids
Speaker 13: are snowflakes and you can frighten them witless because they
Speaker 13: know nothing, and they haven't been learnt to critically think.
Speaker 13: They haven't been they haven't been taught to say well, shamie.
Speaker 13: They just really are perfectly propagata frightening.
Speaker 6: And I've seen some polling that says about forty three
Speaker 6: percent of young Australians are hesitant to have children because
Speaker 6: of climate concerns. Now, this doesn't just affect them here
Speaker 6: and now with anxiety. They're now making life changing choices
Speaker 6: to not have children based on this anxiety. So how
Speaker 6: can we begin to unwind some of that genuine terror
Speaker 6: that so many young Australians do actually feel?
Speaker 13: Well, this is a major problem in the West. We
Speaker 13: are not replacing the adults with children. That's been going
Speaker 13: on for a long time. It's partly due to wealth,
Speaker 13: it's partly due to the cost of housing, it's partly
Speaker 13: due to the fear of the future. And when I
Speaker 13: was talking at my opposition yesterday, I'm thinking, well, it
Speaker 13: is a good thing that some people don't have.
Speaker 2: It should be encouraged.
Speaker 13: So I think this is really quite frightening. Now. I
Speaker 13: can remember as a younger person, and you might not believe,
Speaker 13: but once I was young, and I can remember being
Speaker 13: frightened of a forthcoming nuclear war, and I had the
Speaker 13: same feelings about having children. Notwithstanding I replaced the population,
Speaker 13: and that fear still exists of a nuclear war. It
Speaker 13: will always be there, but there are much much greater fears.
Speaker 13: And the greatest fear I have is leaders who are totally,
Speaker 13: absolutely stupid.
Speaker 2: Now we have that right now.
Speaker 13: Earlier a segment with Chris Bowen. I just hope that
Speaker 13: those Pole figures are correct, because the Independent member, who
Speaker 13: I've met a number of times, is absolutely outstanding.
Speaker 2: He's great.
Speaker 1: Not coming Zulie, Well, I'm glad you mentioned you read
Speaker 1: my mind because I was going to go to Chris
Speaker 1: Bowen next. Have a listen to the three great debates
Speaker 1: during the week on Sky. This was Chris Allman, Sky's
Speaker 1: Chris Allman quizzing Bowen about, well, have a listen.
Speaker 10: Have lectacy prices risen on your what the exact opposite
Speaker 10: of what you pledged.
Speaker 14: That we have never denied.
Speaker 2: We have never denied that energy prices are high.
Speaker 19: That we would like I have a fundamentally different view
Speaker 19: to the one that you have developed in recent news,
Speaker 19: which you expressed on Sky.
Speaker 1: I he couldn't answer the question, but is it true
Speaker 1: what Chris Bowen is claiming that energy prices has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with renewables? It's Ukraine, it's Donald Trump, let's
Speaker 1: look over there, it's probably Pierre Poullier, who knows, but
Speaker 1: it's anybody other than his renewables policy.
Speaker 2: Would you agree with this?
Speaker 13: He should have done what Peter Betty did. So I
Speaker 13: got it wrong and people actually respect that. And by
Speaker 13: waffling on like this, people's a pin of him is
Speaker 13: only consolidated. So Crestlman absolutely nailed him with a couple
Speaker 13: of questions. He also asked a very difficult question of
Speaker 13: the Shadow Minister, who didn't answer it very well, and
Speaker 13: that was well, if you're with your gas policy, how
Speaker 13: can you get more gas from Queensland further south with
Speaker 13: the size of the pipeline, and the answer is you can't.
Speaker 13: And Ted O'Brien missed a wonderful opportunity to say, there
Speaker 13: is a gas field in Gippsland with five wells. I've
Speaker 13: seen one of them flared. It's two kilometers from a
Speaker 13: compression plant where there are pipelines to bring new gas
Speaker 13: into Melbourne. So Melbourne's gas problem is related to a
Speaker 13: labor government and he should have said, these are elbows mates,
Speaker 13: these are your mates, and this is what's happened because
Speaker 13: of your policies.
Speaker 5: Well, Victoria is as a warning to what can happen
Speaker 5: because we are just sitting on so much gas and
Speaker 5: we have.
Speaker 7: Got such huge issues there with energy.
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, in the States, you would have seen Donald Trump
Speaker 5: sign more executive orders this week to cut red tape,
Speaker 5: to turbocharged drill, baby.
Speaker 2: Drill, even coal or coal.
Speaker 5: More coal mines, but even things like personal choice.
Speaker 7: So if you've got to if you.
Speaker 5: Want to have a high pressure showerhead, you can have it.
Speaker 7: You shouldn't have to have this, you know, weak water pressure.
Speaker 7: What do you make of what's happening there?
Speaker 5: Can you see an appetite for any of it here,
Speaker 5: or are we just so far from what's happening in.
Speaker 13: The US, or we don't have a leader like Trump
Speaker 13: who's got that glorious self deprecating humor. And it was
Speaker 13: wonderful that shower scene, mister Dutton. Unfortunately it's a gentleman.
Speaker 13: And in politics you need to be a mongrel at
Speaker 13: sometimes and a gentleman at other times.
Speaker 2: He is not.
Speaker 13: And this is the most important election I've had in
Speaker 13: my voting life.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 13: And if we go down the path of having a
Speaker 13: government of kiels, Greens and labor, this country is economically finished.
Speaker 13: Now mister Dutton has to come out with all guns blazing. Now.
Speaker 13: Of course the socialist maning herald in this city and
Speaker 13: Prata upon Yarra in your city, they will have.
Speaker 2: A go at him.
Speaker 13: But that means he's kicking goals. He has to be
Speaker 13: tougher and he has to say what everyone is thinking.
Speaker 13: Times are tough, my bills are too high. I like
Speaker 13: a country's flag. I don't like any other flags. I
Speaker 13: don't want to be subserve into China. I don't want
Speaker 13: to have their farms ruined. It's really simple it's a
Speaker 13: cultural war, and I think climate is the key of
Speaker 13: this cultural war, and he's not pursuing it with enough vigor.
Speaker 7: In my mind, that's so important, isn't?
Speaker 5: Because climate cuts between the cultural issues and the economic ones.
Speaker 5: It's the chief costume. It is so and really, what's
Speaker 5: the difference between the two parties. I know that there's
Speaker 5: a nuclear policy, but that's really not going to be
Speaker 5: having any benefits to what the twenty thirties.
Speaker 13: Well, this is why this meeting yesterday in d Why
Speaker 13: with the Libertarians was interesting because these are refugees from
Speaker 13: the Liberal party. They are aware that it's twiddled and
Speaker 13: twittled dumb. There's not much difference. And the obvious answer
Speaker 13: to the question you rose with the time we've got
Speaker 13: to wait for nuclear is to boost coal fired power stations.
Speaker 13: No one has ever shown that the carbon dioxide where
Speaker 13: humans emit changes climate or drives climate change. It's never
Speaker 13: been shown. So why not go back to what we
Speaker 13: once had, cheap reliable coal fired electricity. We will need
Speaker 13: more power and that's for AI, that's for our data centers,
Speaker 13: and that's where the nuclear comes in. And that's such
Speaker 13: a sensible policy. You use the same poles and wires.
Speaker 13: Don't destroy all this farmland, don't divide farm communities where
Speaker 13: farmers are now absolutely incandescent with what is happening, where
Speaker 13: they're just being bulldozed and there.
Speaker 1: And we saw the footage from Kasiosko, which is an
Speaker 1: absolute disaster what they've done up there, destroying the beautiful
Speaker 1: landscape in Climate Plan is so great to have you
Speaker 1: on and people can read. You've got almost a weekly
Speaker 1: column now in the Spectator Australia and it is sensational.
Speaker 1: You're whipping to working, so more people should be reading
Speaker 1: you there. It's fantastic and you go into so many
Speaker 1: great issues that's professor and plime are coming up after
Speaker 1: the break. Frail Leach lots more canbra clownshirt here and
Speaker 1: Outsiders that go away back in a tick.
Speaker 6: Welcome back to Outsiders with rowing Dean Rita Panahe and myself.
Speaker 6: Frail Leitch filling in for James Morrow. Now you've no
Speaker 6: doubt heard the phrase the long march through the institutions. Well,
Speaker 6: the finish line is well and truly in sight because
Speaker 6: the radical left has arrived at the heart of our
Speaker 6: bureaucracy and government. One of the clearest examples of this
Speaker 6: is the Office of the Race Discrimination Commissioner, now led
Speaker 6: by Gary darn Siverraman, a man who seems less interested
Speaker 6: in ending racism and more obsessed with finding it everywhere.
Speaker 6: This week, he made headlines warning parents that not talking
Speaker 6: to children about race and racism structurally maintains white supremacy.
Speaker 6: This is what he said.
Speaker 14: It contributes to a knowledge deficit about racism that is
Speaker 14: then perpetuated across generations. It also denies the strength and
Speaker 14: pride that individuals and communities find within their racial identity,
Speaker 14: and structurally maintains white supremacy.
Speaker 6: So if you teach your kids to look beyond race,
Speaker 6: according to the race ZA, you're actually complicit in white supremacy.
Speaker 6: He also said people find pride in their racial identity,
Speaker 6: that's fine. But here's a question for mister Sivoraman. Does
Speaker 6: that apply to white Australians as well? Can Australian of
Speaker 6: Anglo heritage be proud of their ancestry the ones who
Speaker 6: built the common law system, ended slavery and helped free
Speaker 6: half the world from tyranny in the twentieth century. Somehow
Speaker 6: I doubt it. But if pride is allowed for everyone
Speaker 6: except Anglo Australians, then that is racism. But this is
Speaker 6: part of a broader pattern of the Commissioner denigrating our culture,
Speaker 6: heritage and values. He said this about Australia Day.
Speaker 27: Australia Day, his invasion day for our First Nations brothers consisted,
Speaker 27: and there's a day of morning in many ways, and
Speaker 27: not a day to be celebrated. And to not acknowledge
Speaker 27: that's just compounds racism.
Speaker 6: He's also hosted our long seminars accusing Australian workplaces of
Speaker 6: structural racism. And this is a funny one. He's questioned,
Speaker 6: were their languages other than English could be spoken in
Speaker 6: Australian offices all part of a move to dismantle structural racism.
Speaker 6: He also claims that the Voice referendum debate mainstreamed racism, right,
Speaker 6: because that makes so much sense. Disagreeing with a race
Speaker 6: based body that would literally make racism structural is now racist.
Speaker 6: But here's the irony of the whole thing. We're told
Speaker 6: Australia is a racist country by a highly paid Indian
Speaker 6: migrant who's been given a national megaphone and a four
Speaker 6: hundred thousand taxpayer funded salary. If anything, I think this
Speaker 6: is proof that we are a very tolerant country, perhaps
Speaker 6: maybe even too tolerant of people disparaging Australia, dividing us
Speaker 6: along the lines of race and inculcating victimhood. But this
Speaker 6: is also so frustrating because when there is genuine racism,
Speaker 6: if it's against white people or Jews, it's dismissed entirely.
Speaker 6: When asked to condemn the anti Semitic chant from the
Speaker 6: River to the Sea, mister Siverramen refused. He said he
Speaker 6: needed context. What sort of context do you need to
Speaker 6: determine whether a cry for genocide should be condemned? But
Speaker 6: for the left wing activist class, anti Semitism is the
Speaker 6: inconvenient racism because Jews are apparently too white and too
Speaker 6: successful to be victims in the Marxist noble victim versus
Speaker 6: white oppressor narrative. Now, also keep in mind sib Amen
Speaker 6: is leading the Government Commission's study into racism at Australian Universities,
Speaker 6: which was only necessary because of the dramatic increase in
Speaker 6: anti semitism we've seen on campuses since October seven. So
Speaker 6: good luck seeing any serious treatment of anti semitism in
Speaker 6: the review. So, for all Geary's agonizing about the dire
Speaker 6: state of structural racism in Australia, what is his grand
Speaker 6: plan to fix it? Well, of course, it's a seven
Speaker 6: point five million dollar taxpayer funded national anti anti racism
Speaker 6: framework to quote help us understand racism through a systemic, intersectional,
Speaker 6: nuanced and community centered lens with first nation sovereignty and
Speaker 6: truth telling at its core. What an absolute waste of
Speaker 6: taxpayer money. Now, Interestingly, Siver Raman was hand picked by
Speaker 6: Labour's Attorney General Mark Treefus, and before this gig, he
Speaker 6: was a principal lawyer at Maurice Blackburn, a big corporate
Speaker 6: donor to a Labor Party, tipping in over one point
Speaker 6: four million dollars in donations to the Labor Party over
Speaker 6: the last decade. We are sick of the unelected elite
Speaker 6: who preach division, sick of the double standards, and sick
Speaker 6: of being told we are racist by a public servant
Speaker 6: migrant earning four times the average salary. If you want unity,
Speaker 6: I think we need to start by firing those who
Speaker 6: have built their careers on division.
Speaker 1: Fantastic freyer, that was great, and of course outsider's viewers
Speaker 1: will remember that Freyer Leitch was incredibly brave when she
Speaker 1: stood up fighting against the anti Semitism that was so
Speaker 1: prevalent at Sydney UNI. Freyer, you did a terrific job
Speaker 1: and you still do so. Here is my solution. Sacked
Speaker 1: that blower. He should have gone coalition and put Freyer
Speaker 1: in the job and get a decent job done. Come on, Coalition,
Speaker 1: Let's have some decent ideas while you're throwing money around. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Let's now go to Keisha Haines Jamison. Now, Kisha has
Speaker 1: come out and spoken against, well not against, but pointing
Speaker 1: out that the acknowledgment of country is basically something we've
Speaker 1: discussed here on this show before.
Speaker 2: And that's why I.
Speaker 1: Wanted to speak to Keisha. The acknowledgment of country is
Speaker 1: a made up protocol. Now this isn't me saying that,
Speaker 1: This is Keisha saying it.
Speaker 2: So, Keisha, tell us your thought.
Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the show, and thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on Outsiders. Tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about what it was that displeases you or
Speaker 1: or concerns you. I guess about the acknowledgment of country,
Speaker 1: and I guess by definition as well, the welcome to
Speaker 1: countries that are so prevalent.
Speaker 21: Now, thank you for having me. First of all, I
Speaker 21: wanted to say that I speak for myself and this
Speaker 21: is just you know, my perspective and the experiences I've
Speaker 21: had around culture growing up. So you know, welcome to
Speaker 21: country and acknowledgment to country are two different things. Welcome
Speaker 21: to country is a cultural practice that is customized into
Speaker 21: a policy by reconciliation Australia and acknowledgment. Acknowledgment to country
Speaker 21: is for Australian people, but it's a made up protocol
Speaker 21: as a reconciliation process globally for indigenous people.
Speaker 5: And we're hearing these acknowledgment of countries just everywhere now,
Speaker 5: whether it's a contest, plain landing, whether it's the start
Speaker 5: of a meeting, meeting or a school assembly. Sometimes you're
Speaker 5: hearing it multiple times, and I think there is a
Speaker 5: lot of Australians who are thoroughly sick of it. How
Speaker 5: did this start and what purpose does it serve? Do
Speaker 5: you see any positives from it that I'm missing?
Speaker 2: Well, I think.
Speaker 21: The positive things like that's missing about it is the
Speaker 21: cultural aspect of it all, like.
Speaker 2: It should be a choice.
Speaker 21: It shouldn't be forced onto people. It's like forcing a
Speaker 21: religion onto people that who haven't accepted it, you know
Speaker 21: what I mean. And that's why it's you know, it
Speaker 21: shouldn't be mandatory, which is what the policy has done.
Speaker 21: It should be a choice and that that is you know,
Speaker 21: that choice should be respected, you know in this country,
Speaker 21: given the different cultures and religions that I here today,
Speaker 21: and you know, we shouldn't be welcoming Australians when they're
Speaker 21: already here, right.
Speaker 6: And as an Indigenous person, do you feel how does
Speaker 6: it make you feel? Do you feel tokenized and kind
Speaker 6: of just used as a bit of a political football,
Speaker 6: because sometimes when I see these endless acknowledgments, people don't
Speaker 6: really mean them. They're not genuine about trying to improve
Speaker 6: the lives of Australia's most marginalized. It's just virtue signaling.
Speaker 6: How does it make you feel?
Speaker 21: It makes me feel like we're being weaponized against the
Speaker 21: Australian people because you know, a lot of us don't
Speaker 21: even know that it's turned into a policy and where
Speaker 21: this authority has come from, because it's not coming from
Speaker 21: us and as Aboriginal people, and so I think if
Speaker 21: welcome to country was done actually appropriately, it would be
Speaker 21: a unified gesture.
Speaker 1: And Keisha, the fact that as you were saying, acknowledgement
Speaker 1: the country as a kind of made up protocol, doesn't
Speaker 1: that actually isn't that kind of offense or demeaning to
Speaker 1: genuine Indigenous Australian traditions and genuine Indigenous beliefs and customs
Speaker 1: and so on. If you've got to make up a protocol,
Speaker 1: isn't it kind of demeaning to Indigenous Australians rather than
Speaker 1: I would have thought, rather than lifting Indigenous Australians up,
Speaker 1: it's actually saying no, no, no, no, we've got.
Speaker 2: To make something up on your behalf. I think it's
Speaker 2: quite gross in my opinion. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 21: Us not being able as Aboriginal people being able to
Speaker 21: make decisions for ourselves when it comes to real conciliation
Speaker 21: in this country. The reconciliation Australia policies are only about
Speaker 21: reconciliation which talks about the past rather than solutions.
Speaker 1: Keisha, fantastic words, great insights there. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. It's been great to having
Speaker 1: you here on Outsiders, and great thoughts there from Keisha
Speaker 1: coming up in a tick Canbra Clown Show.
Speaker 2: What's there?
Speaker 1: Roll up, roll up, step right this way. It's the
Speaker 1: wackiest show on earth. It's the Canbra Clown Show.
Speaker 28: Ladies and gentlemen and children of all agents, get ready
Speaker 28: for the big show.
Speaker 1: Yes, you'll be on the edge of your seat, says today.
Speaker 1: For the first time ever in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1: Here on the Canbra Clown Show, we perform the daredevil
Speaker 1: amazing trillion dollar gross debt, vanishing acts.
Speaker 28: You will see great acts, hecular performers, wild animals, came
Speaker 28: by the world's greatest trainers, jew sprills, excitement, and of
Speaker 28: course the clown.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course the clowns. It's always about the clowns.
Speaker 1: And here she is flowing in at your for your
Speaker 1: very own entertainment, everybody's favorite slapstick comedian clown, Katie Gallagher,
Speaker 1: the Clown.
Speaker 2: You'll be through.
Speaker 1: You'll be on the edge of your seat in this
Speaker 1: hilarious sketch as Katie the Clown does everything in her
Speaker 1: power to stop her sidekick bureaucrat Miss Patterson, from revealing
Speaker 1: to Senator Jane Hume whether or not any other government
Speaker 1: in Australia has chalked up a gross debt of one
Speaker 1: trillion dollars.
Speaker 2: Here's the setup. First, Jane Hume asks.
Speaker 1: The CANDRA bureaucrat what Labour's gross debt for this year
Speaker 1: actually is?
Speaker 2: Can you just tell me what.
Speaker 5: Does gross debt hit in twenty twenty five, twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty six, our Senator, as.
Speaker 17: Set out on page seven of BP one, it is
Speaker 17: just over one trillion.
Speaker 2: And then comes the punchline.
Speaker 1: Has any government in Australia ever had this unbelievable amount
Speaker 1: of debt before?
Speaker 2: It's a perfectly reasonable question.
Speaker 1: But watch now as Katie the clown gets herself all in.
Speaker 7: It is has grossed it ever?
Speaker 14: Actually reached one trillion.
Speaker 7: Dollars before, Miss Patterson?
Speaker 2: It was forecasts.
Speaker 7: I wasn't over ten minutes.
Speaker 18: Now, I know because you don't like that answer, and
Speaker 18: we have significantly lowered the debt burden that we inherited
Speaker 18: from you as part of our responsible budgeting. Now, I
Speaker 18: know it's non comfortable truth, I know it is, but
Speaker 18: that is the reality.
Speaker 7: Miss Patterson.
Speaker 17: Has grossed it ever, actually reached one trillion dollars before? Ah, Senator,
Speaker 17: I will just need to see if I can find
Speaker 17: I don't have that in my folder.
Speaker 1: Nice bit of obfiscation there, and net debt but no
Speaker 1: gross aet.
Speaker 2: How convenient.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens next when Jane Hume again attempts
Speaker 1: to find out if Australia has ever had this level
Speaker 1: of gross debts before, and Katie the Clown attempts to
Speaker 1: make that number disappear by throwing a nuclear umbrella over it.
Speaker 2: How much are you going to need to borrow from you?
Speaker 6: Clear?
Speaker 2: Minister's answering The questions answer an entirely different one. Oh
Speaker 2: why not, Chris Patterson? As debt?
Speaker 17: Gross debt ever reached a trillion dollars before?
Speaker 18: In your last budget it was forecast on sceed.
Speaker 7: I'll just ask it for the fourth time now.
Speaker 17: Ever actually reached one trillion dollars before? If you look
Speaker 17: at end of year figure you can see those figures
Speaker 17: line up with the figures on page seven. So the
Speaker 17: nive onwards.
Speaker 1: Yes, but we all do respect, miss Patterson. That wasn't
Speaker 1: the question. Let's try again, shall we?
Speaker 2: So I'll just ask the fifth.
Speaker 17: Time now, has gross debt ever reached one trillion dollars
Speaker 17: before the year twenty.
Speaker 18: Six published that we would exceed and happened in twenty three,
Speaker 18: twenty four. It's twenty four, twenty five, twenty five, twenty six.
Speaker 18: I'm just gonna ask you, well, you can keep wasting
Speaker 18: your time, keep going, Ah, magnificent performance.
Speaker 1: Nobody, but nobody can hold a candle to Katie the clown. Yes,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, what we are witnessing today is the
Speaker 1: art of clowning around at its absolute finest. But Senator
Speaker 1: Jane's like a Jack Russell. Maybe I'll call her Jane
Speaker 1: Russell from now on because she just won't let go
Speaker 1: of that thorny question.
Speaker 7: Can you tell me has gross?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 2: Are you ever it? Trillion dollars before?
Speaker 17: Senator based on those two tables are.
Speaker 2: No, it has not.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeay, And there you have it.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, give them all a big hand. But wait, folks,
Speaker 1: there's always more and not to be outdone. Here's Opposition
Speaker 1: leader Peter Dutton this week performing his amazing work from
Speaker 1: home aerial acrobatics. Sorry my mistake. Here's Peter Dutton and
Speaker 1: his perfect backflip.
Speaker 20: Look, I think we've made a mistake in relation to
Speaker 20: this policy, Sarah, and I think it's important that we
Speaker 20: say that and recognize it.
Speaker 14: And our intention.
Speaker 20: Always was to make sure that where taxpayers are working
Speaker 20: hard and their money is being spent to pay wages,
Speaker 20: it's been spent efficiently, and that of course will always
Speaker 20: be the case. We want to spend taxpayers money efficiently.
Speaker 20: But I think Glabe has been able to get away
Speaker 20: with twisting this.
Speaker 2: And something that wasn't.
Speaker 14: From home.
Speaker 6: There's more than that this year back flip.
Speaker 2: I mean, this was one of your signature policies.
Speaker 20: We're listening to what people have to say. We've made
Speaker 20: a mistake in relation to the policy, apologize for that
Speaker 20: and we've dealt with it.
Speaker 1: But did he really need to backflip? His new South
Speaker 1: Wales Labor Premier Chris Mins selling Peter's policy all for him,
Speaker 1: which begs the question why couldn't Peter Dutton have just
Speaker 1: been more like Chris Mins.
Speaker 16: We're not changing our policies in relation to work from
Speaker 16: home at all. There's four hundred thousand public servants in
Speaker 16: the state. Most of them are on the front lines,
Speaker 16: whether they're police officers, corrections officers, school teachers, nurses.
Speaker 2: They don't have an option to work from home.
Speaker 16: Those that do, we're trying to get back into the workplace.
Speaker 16: And there's a couple of reasons for it. Firstly, a
Speaker 16: sense of shared mission in the public service and secondly
Speaker 16: the vital and absolutely necessary role that older employees play
Speaker 16: in mentoring young people into the workplace.
Speaker 2: Not that hard.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, let's hear it for albozo folks as he goes
Speaker 1: to land the knockout blow.
Speaker 4: This is a part of a part of the takeover
Speaker 4: of the Liberal Party by the hard right. When you
Speaker 4: look at Alex Antich being number one on the ticket,
Speaker 4: he's got his shadow Health Minister at number two.
Speaker 2: Great stuff there.
Speaker 1: And before we go, as an encore, here's Angus Taylor
Speaker 1: serving it up to top treasurer clown Jimbo at their
Speaker 1: Sky News debate this week.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's hyperbol or.
Speaker 1: Hyperble extreme exaggeration has pronounced by another than Julia Gillard. Well,
Speaker 1: hyperbol extreme exaggeration. Well how do you explain this? One
Speaker 1: friend of mine sent this to me. The Australian Law
Speaker 1: Reform Commission are doing a submission looking into Native Title
Speaker 1: Act and everything to do with Native title and they've
Speaker 1: asked for submissions. How does anyone participate a very important topic,
Speaker 1: Native title affects us all eventually, and they want submissions
Speaker 1: from people, legal submissions, very important legal documents. So they've
Speaker 1: asked for you may be able to submit either with
Speaker 1: a written document that makes sense or by an audio
Speaker 1: recording or wait for it, Rita and Frayer, you can
Speaker 1: submit an artwork.
Speaker 2: That's right, an artwork.
Speaker 1: That's how serious the Australian law reformost. Oh, here's my
Speaker 1: I've got an artwork. I'm going to What sort of artwork?
Speaker 2: Reata would you submit on the Native Title Act?
Speaker 5: You wonder it is rather bizarre when you're talking about
Speaker 5: a legal change. And obviously anyone who is going to
Speaker 5: be able to access a computer to find this website
Speaker 5: to participate in this process online, you would expect they
Speaker 5: would be able to communicate whatever they want, either verbally
Speaker 5: or in writing. But no, currently, next it will be
Speaker 5: interpretive dance. Maybe you can just do a video of
Speaker 5: yourself emoting your feelings through physical movement and submit that.
Speaker 2: Why not, Freyer, like me, you did law briefly.
Speaker 1: Did they tell you your legal studies that an artwork
Speaker 1: was the way to solve these complex legal issues? No?
Speaker 6: But honestly, this doesn't surprise me. With some of the
Speaker 6: fabricated indigenous history claims we've seen popping up as an
Speaker 6: excuse to cancel mines to claim native title, Like this
Speaker 6: is what happens, right, Proof just becomes this subjective assertion
Speaker 6: of some sort of claim without it literally, without any
Speaker 6: substantive basis other than whatever artwork you want to produce.
Speaker 1: Well, part of the reason, I can't remember the exact
Speaker 1: details of this, but when they canceled the gold mine
Speaker 1: or whatever, there was a bit of graffiti or something
Speaker 1: on a wall painting that was cited as evidence efficiently
Speaker 1: of this myth or whatever. Hyperbowl, hyper boat, hyperboat tell
Speaker 1: us about the hyperboat.
Speaker 5: Really, what this is Bill Gates. I think he wance
Speaker 5: was the world's richest man. He's still a multi billionaire,
Speaker 5: and he's got this boat that he had built over
Speaker 5: six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 7: We're not talking about some dinghy year. He's never been
Speaker 7: on it. He's now selling it.
Speaker 5: But can you imagine someone who is this obsessed about
Speaker 5: global warming wants all of us to eat worms stop flying,
Speaker 5: that he would commission this, the carbon emissions that would
Speaker 5: go into building this monstrosity.
Speaker 7: He's never even set foot on it.
Speaker 6: I mean also, how much funding did Bill Gates and
Speaker 6: his various foundations receive from the US government. That's being
Speaker 6: uncovered by Doge And he's getting hundreds of millions of
Speaker 6: dollars from the taxpayer and then spending hundreds of millions
Speaker 6: building a yacht he's never been on. It's like, this
Speaker 6: is my problem with these lefties. Use if you want
Speaker 6: to be generous and fix the world, that's great. That
Speaker 6: is a very good thing to do. Start by using
Speaker 6: your own money to fix the world before you take
Speaker 6: taxpayer dollars. That's a much better way to go about it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and just quickly, let's have a look at JD.
Speaker 1: Van's exposing some of the madness of their lefty lunacy.
Speaker 29: Sorry, I'm laughing because this has to be a joke.
Speaker 29: The word wife is an example of the type of
Speaker 29: language that we need to eliminate, and I'm just asking
Speaker 29: if that's something you think is necessary or something you support.
Speaker 6: I'd have to give that one some more thought.
Speaker 29: If there is a pilot who is offended by the
Speaker 29: word wife or the word cockpit, maybe that person shouldn't
Speaker 29: be a pilot. So rather than kotoing to people who
Speaker 29: are fragile.
Speaker 14: Maybe we should actually say, if you're.
Speaker 29: So worried about the words that we are using, you
Speaker 29: shouldn't be flying multi ton metal engines through the sky.
Speaker 2: Rata. I love it. It's fantastic. Jdvans are so good
Speaker 2: for you know what.
Speaker 7: It was so good. I'll even forgive the cow toe.
Speaker 2: But there you go. The madness of language, which is
Speaker 2: is justin sce.
Speaker 6: It's crazy. I just I'm always blown away by the
Speaker 6: new words people find offensive. It's like they've just taken
Speaker 6: the whole Oxford Dictionary and every single thing is now
Speaker 6: offensive to someone.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it for this week's Outsiders. Thank you Freyerlych
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. So it was terrific to
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Speaker 1: My favorite show then of course Friday's World. According to
Speaker 1: Rowan Dean.
Speaker 7: My favorite show.
Speaker 2: There we go, see you on Saturdays next week. Bye.