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Speaker 1: Approache Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: Muscle comments and in.

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Speaker 3: This episode, I speak with Nathan ty Horihanganui who went

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Speaker 3: from soldier to Sidney Dorman.

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Speaker 4: I used to take a mouth cut to work because

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Speaker 4: I thought, at least if I can keep my teeth.

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Speaker 1: I could go hard.

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Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, Like I used to

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Speaker 4: like grabbing a finger or digit just twisted, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like if I heard this finger and

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Speaker 4: I wrapped it out the socket for the next six

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Speaker 4: d eight weeks, You're gonna remember me, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. And I says if you don't pay, you

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Speaker 4: have to ask you to leave, and you leaned in.

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Speaker 1: What did you say? You're on the verge? Are giving

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Speaker 1: me a twe.

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Speaker 4: If you mess up, I'm the person that will come

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Speaker 4: through and take you away without anyone's seeing.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Nate for coming in.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate this and taking your time out to

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Speaker 3: come in on the podcast. I think you've got a

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Speaker 3: special story about your time on the doors and what

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Speaker 3: you've done in the industry. So before we get into it,

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Speaker 3: let's just talk about you growing up before you actually

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Speaker 3: became who you are.

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Speaker 2: The dormant and all like that and get to know

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Speaker 2: you as a person.

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Speaker 4: I'm from road Or in New Zealand. It's a small place.

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Speaker 4: It's tiny and sixty thousand strong, eighty thousand. When I

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Speaker 4: was growing up nothing A lot of my friends nothing

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Speaker 4: to do, so heaps of them.

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Speaker 1: We're having babies quite young.

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Speaker 4: My parents they didn't want me going down a wasted path,

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Speaker 4: so they sent me to the army. But they signed

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Speaker 4: me up to them when I was sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I didn't get until I was seventeen, but I like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: i'd signed a dotted line. Like how long were you

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Speaker 4: in the army? For nearly seven years? Really both Australian

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Speaker 4: Service medal. I served under Major General Cosgrove in East

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Speaker 4: Timore and I was on Time magazine doing a huker.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: When I joined the Army, I was five foot eight

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Speaker 4: and sixty five kilos ringing with and I left army

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Speaker 4: I was six foot and ninety killers So things changed,

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Speaker 2: It's like, what did you Why did you leave the army?

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Speaker 4: So that adds to the story too, which is I

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Speaker 4: had a fiance I was going to ask her to

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Speaker 4: marry me, I had a ring so and I was

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Speaker 4: the fact a relationship in the army, living in the

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Speaker 4: housing area. And then when I went away on tour

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Speaker 4: to the United Nations, I asked the brothers to look

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Speaker 4: after my girl, and heaps of them looked after her.

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Speaker 4: You can't really stay in the army when you're doing

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Speaker 4: fire maneuver and you want to give another person a

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Speaker 4: second bum bump, do you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 4: it's just in a dark place. Heaps, not one or two,

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Speaker 4: to me, Like fuck, it still hurts because he was

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Speaker 4: my boy. Like and ten years later, fifteen is that

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Speaker 4: I wanted to like get in contact of him because

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Speaker 4: so I left the army and went on a mission.

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Speaker 2: It was going for your mind.

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Speaker 3: Then when when you wanted to go to leave the

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Speaker 3: army and go on that mission that you said, what

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Speaker 3: was it going for your Where are you going to

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Speaker 1: Weakness?

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Speaker 4: Like I v I was so sad, like my life

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Speaker 4: was over. I thought I was in love, just the

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Speaker 4: most stupidest, no life experience person I was. I thought

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Speaker 4: I was on a pathway for ascension in the military.

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Speaker 4: I think I was the first person in my core

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Speaker 4: training to get promoted. Like I was doing my courses

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Speaker 4: and life on that front was going really really well,

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Speaker 4: and just distraught. Only a baby though, you know, like

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Speaker 1: So I left.

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Speaker 4: We packed up, and then I actually landed in South

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Speaker 4: I punch on with these farm boys and the next

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Speaker 4: thinking dumb. It's at this stage where I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I've done my seeking courses in the military, but I'm

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Speaker 4: of here raising because they got nothing to lose, and ah,

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Speaker 4: they're meadheads and stuff and it was dangerous, right, And

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Speaker 4: so I started training. And then when I was training,

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Speaker 4: I found this magazine and there was a student. His

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Speaker 4: name was Tony Banello. So Tony Banello put a challenge saying,

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Speaker 4: was going to have a cage fight, like I was going,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go find this Tony Banillo and I

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Speaker 4: asked him to train me and we're going to go

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Speaker 4: like cage fighting. And so I packed up everything in

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Speaker 4: I found Tony Banello's master. So Tony Banello's ju jitsu coach.

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Speaker 4: His name's Paulo Gumeirz. He's the first Brazilian black belt

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Speaker 4: the most grueling training you've ever been through. But I

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Speaker 4: what it was about me, but I had a keenness.

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Speaker 4: I said, like, you know, wash clean, door, whateverybody. He

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Speaker 4: let me train for free, but the contract was that

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Speaker 4: So I won the submission grappling absolute so any weight

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Speaker 4: and that's how I sort of got the scurty job.

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Speaker 4: just because it was getting rough to deal with some

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Speaker 4: But wasn't enough, you know, the mindset wasn't right to

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Speaker 4: I won multiple world championships. I fought in Greece, Italy, Bulgaria,

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: What stopped you from going to the next level effort?

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Speaker 4: A true champion is made grinding out three or four

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Speaker 4: like it's I still fighting, still training, still pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Like my last competition was in Greece in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: I went to Russia.

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Speaker 1: I got number two.

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Speaker 4: Right, I was limping and my eye was sore and

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Speaker 4: I gave him everything. I gave him a Hail Mary,

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Speaker 4: So now that has turned into not just part of

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Speaker 4: and instructured scus. It's your teeth. He's a killer, and

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Speaker 4: do wrestling with Randy Coutour, got jiu jitsu with Hoyst,

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Speaker 4: Gracie Hex and Gracie I don't know if you know

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And I also started studying psychology and mentality and just

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Speaker 1: I used to take a mouthguard to.

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Speaker 4: Work because I thought, at least if I can keep

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Speaker 4: He stopped him in his tracks. He goes, fuck you

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting paid to fight. There's no money in it.

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Speaker 4: If I beat him up, there's only paperwork and potentially

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Speaker 1: Him far. And it's just different times, do you know

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Speaker 1: You're gonna remember me, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 1: And he was like, ah, right.

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Speaker 4: Then Sergeant Lovell was the licensing of the Yeah Love

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Speaker 4: And he was like fuck him and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: What I mean? And I caught him.

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Speaker 4: I called him outside man, and I took him to

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Speaker 4: I was like, no, you're going to get it too,

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Speaker 4: what happened. I was like, his finger got caught up

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Speaker 4: by a whistling.

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Speaker 1: I looked up.

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Speaker 4: It was the same cop and before when it was

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, look at the cocaine falling

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Speaker 4: He's got someone trying to give him something else to

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Speaker 4: think about. So he took him away. He went and

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my day's here at done. I

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Speaker 4: to leave that club for that incident break because normally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look after them, go through, show them clickers.

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Speaker 4: You want to be as forthcoming as you can because

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Speaker 1: You know. You can see the other clubs that have

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Speaker 4: And I don't want any of that. We're making money

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Speaker 4: and everything is good. Just give us space. And so

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Speaker 2: Explain to me, like, you started working on the doors

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Speaker 2: in Sydney. What was your first night club that you

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Speaker 1: Home? Night club? On the door inside outside?

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Speaker 4: I started because I was skinny, little and nobody trust

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Speaker 4: me because I looked for metable, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Well, you was like two fours stuff that I left

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Speaker 4: I had this mean team, weird like there's like thirty

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Speaker 4: guards there right and sometimes the brawls ten twenty men

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Speaker 4: on the promenade. Was was so much fun, Like I

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Speaker 4: It was on the exit door. Just no one's allowed

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Speaker 4: to go in the easiest job ever. This is for

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Speaker 4: the ones that you can't really trust yet I know,

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Speaker 4: you know, the lucky job I haven't earned. And the

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Speaker 4: reason why I changed from the lacky job was a

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I jumped over because we had those barricades. I jumped

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Speaker 4: over six barricades to get there. I was still first

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Speaker 4: person to get there, while a whole bunch of officers stood

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Speaker 4: there and did nothing.

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Speaker 1: Then we didn't even get involved.

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Speaker 4: They called the eye of another person who I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you know, but he's pretty prominent.

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Speaker 1: His name was Steve Trand you haven't met that fun.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so Steve Trans I say gangster in the

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Speaker 4: lightest term, but he's a man that has skills and

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Speaker 4: knows both sides of the enterprise that we're in. You know,

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Speaker 4: when I jumped, I ran to his aid, and when

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Speaker 4: I did that, he stole me. So he asked me

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Speaker 4: to leave Ice can go with him, and they caused

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Speaker 4: a fallout between me and Tony, which was heartbreaking, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. But I wanted to do fun stuff,

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Speaker 4: so he took me and then under him, you know,

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Speaker 4: we did like gun licenses and things. He was high

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Speaker 4: end with bodyguarding and John Howard and all that kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff. So I started linking into that other side.

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Speaker 4: And he also has other sides too. But but whatever,

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Speaker 4: security jobs to make money.

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Speaker 1: What was it? What were the like?

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Speaker 3: There must have been a club that you've gone. I

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Speaker 3: wish I never worked at that club. Is that a

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Speaker 3: club there that you've just gone? This was a show

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Speaker 3: here South Australia, Hitty. I got three rules for security.

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Speaker 3: These are my three rules where I do security. One,

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Speaker 3: I got to have a door entry fee, no entry fee.

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Speaker 3: I don't work there, like well, no, they got to

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Speaker 3: pay to go in so that a few men up

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Speaker 3: it sucks to get kicked out. Got to have a

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Speaker 3: dress code if you want one hundred dollars, shit, you're

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Speaker 3: less likely to want to rip it, do you know?

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's got to have money.

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Speaker 4: You got to have no shit, I think, And I

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Speaker 4: don't do high vis man, I'm allergic to high vers.

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Speaker 1: That shit gives me a ration.

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Speaker 4: Shit, I'm like, nah, high visit is a bumboy of

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Speaker 4: the highest extreme.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So when I'm trying to deal with someone, I want

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Speaker 4: to speak to your manager. I want to speak to

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Speaker 4: the owner. I have a suit like I go when

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Speaker 4: they're are like Hugo boss students and I am feeling

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Speaker 4: pimped and like heah, And I'm the owner. I'm the manager.

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Speaker 4: I'm the only fucking person that you need to worry about,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I'm not one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: Look at me for a long time vo at the club,

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Speaker 4: I was wearing black suede slippers.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: They're like, what the fuck you're wearing a surfers for?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, I look pimp ass, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. But that's the difference in the security work

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Speaker 4: that I do and how I what I do for

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Speaker 4: the venue that I work for, or you used to

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Speaker 4: look for I'm not the big monster that sits on

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Speaker 4: this and looks at everyone. What's the difference between me

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Speaker 4: staring at everyone? Fuck, how uncomfortable does that feel? And

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Speaker 4: me dancing away, listening to the music, but still with

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Speaker 1: One makes you feel good, one makes you don't.

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Speaker 4: And when I do the doors, I can ask people

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Speaker 4: that they almost don't feel bad about it. You know,

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Speaker 4: my record for R and B Super Club for Rats

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Speaker 4: Tails is eleven, and there's eleven Rats Tails and one

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Speaker 4: night and I was like, hey man, they got a

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Speaker 4: no Rats tels posicingly. Oh it's my wedding friend's birthday.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, straight up, I'm not allowed, literally, but he

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Speaker 4: appears to if you cut it, I'll vi ip you

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Speaker 4: straight up, I'll free entry you straight up.

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Speaker 1: Like well, look after.

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Speaker 4: He's like if I've been growing this for fifteen years,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, you want to know you don't want it,

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Speaker 4: and it's not my dealing.

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Speaker 1: But my record is eleven. I got eleven haircuts.

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Speaker 4: But one day, but when I went in, I took

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Speaker 4: I still got fifteen years. He've been cutting it to

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Speaker 4: go for a club. I cut it off and he's

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Speaker 4: giving me a handshake. Do you know it's it's not

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Speaker 4: the same. I don't I don't come across the same way.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also still the person if you mess up

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Speaker 4: that I'm the person that will come through and take

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Speaker 4: you away without anyone seeing. I am am stealth mode,

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Speaker 4: you know, and nobody sees me for some reason, like

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Speaker 4: I'm just slippers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we would have known them.

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Speaker 4: I got a black jacket, dressed, pants on and at

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Speaker 4: the bottom of my feet, you know, Like I liked

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Speaker 4: dressing up before you go to work. Like I wasn't

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Speaker 4: going to work. I was putting my music on. I'm

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Speaker 4: getting ready. I'm feeling like amazing, do you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean? And that's why I said, like when I

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Speaker 4: was saying two before earlier, it was just that I

439
00:19:59,681 --> 00:20:03,601
Speaker 4: don't have dark stories for my bodyguarding career. They were

440
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,041
Speaker 4: like highlights. I enjoyed my time had I made the

441
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,521
Speaker 4: most of it. I made good money and I lived

442
00:20:09,561 --> 00:20:12,441
Speaker 4: a really really good life, you know what I mean.

443
00:20:12,481 --> 00:20:14,801
Speaker 4: I make a couple thousand dollars in two nights. I

444
00:20:14,801 --> 00:20:18,041
Speaker 4: have five days off hanging out, you know, at the

445
00:20:18,041 --> 00:20:22,041
Speaker 4: beach one day every day and jiu jitsu and MMA

446
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,681
Speaker 4: and just.

447
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: The dream like I had so much fun. You know.

448
00:20:27,521 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 4: What I used to do though, is if I if

449
00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 4: I did get stuck in a post, if you do

450
00:20:32,321 --> 00:20:35,521
Speaker 4: something like big day out, there's five hundred guards there, right,

451
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,041
Speaker 4: so there's maybe like fifteen security companies. You know, I

452
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,201
Speaker 4: look at people and I judge them. He's a somebody,

453
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,201
Speaker 4: he's a numpty.

454
00:20:44,441 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: The fellow knows nothing. Can I hear?

455
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 4: You come here? I get you to stand here for

456
00:20:47,961 --> 00:20:49,761
Speaker 4: lusig and I come straight back. You're right, okay, could

457
00:20:49,801 --> 00:20:51,761
Speaker 4: come through. And then I'm like, I'll come back and

458
00:20:51,761 --> 00:20:53,281
Speaker 4: I go have you had a lunch break? And you'll

459
00:20:53,321 --> 00:20:56,001
Speaker 4: go nah, And I'll be like they take forty five

460
00:20:56,001 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 4: minutes about like, yeah, man, go have a lunch break.

461
00:20:59,041 --> 00:20:59,721
Speaker 1: I'm nobody.

462
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 4: I just take I've just taken this guard, send him

463
00:21:01,921 --> 00:21:04,281
Speaker 4: on a lunch break, and I'm nobody. I'm nobody. I

464
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 4: got no power, no nothing. I'm not even connected to anyone.

465
00:21:07,201 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 4: I just sent this kid on a lunch break. And

466
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,801
Speaker 4: then he comes back and I go, hey, man, I

467
00:21:10,801 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 4: get you to stand here in this position. Don't use

468
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,121
Speaker 4: the video. If you need me, here's my phone number.

469
00:21:14,241 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 4: Just call me, okay, and then watch the show again.

470
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 4: No sympathy for stupidity, do you know what I mean?

471
00:21:23,801 --> 00:21:28,041
Speaker 4: And that's how I think that's what got me seniority,

472
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,921
Speaker 4: because I think some people took notice that the only

473
00:21:30,961 --> 00:21:32,481
Speaker 4: way we're going to make them work is if we're

474
00:21:32,521 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 4: going to make them a boss. And these people are

475
00:21:34,521 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 4: trying to like hide from me. I'm like, I know

476
00:21:36,281 --> 00:21:39,681
Speaker 4: all the tricks, you know, And that's my thing for security,

477
00:21:39,681 --> 00:21:42,121
Speaker 4: which was if you can hide and I can't find you,

478
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 4: you can be the manager. But if I can always

479
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,641
Speaker 4: find you, you're not good enough to be the manager.

480
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 4: I got to run massive teams, do you know what

481
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 4: I mean? And right up to like I did the

482
00:21:52,001 --> 00:21:54,721
Speaker 4: Dalai Lama, and I ran a team of seventy men,

483
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: and all of them trying to do my tricks, taking

484
00:21:56,921 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 4: lunch breaks, pissing off, trying to do it.

485
00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,681
Speaker 2: I know all of.

486
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,201
Speaker 4: Them, you know it Just that's what elevated my game

487
00:22:03,241 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 4: a lot, which is just what ching people reading people.

488
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: Some people I wouldn't talk to you must have been

489
00:22:08,961 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 4: the same. I'm like, there's no way that I'm going

490
00:22:10,961 --> 00:22:13,281
Speaker 4: to associate with this person he speaks.

491
00:22:13,321 --> 00:22:13,961
Speaker 1: I walk off.

492
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:16,121
Speaker 4: Even handshakes like they try and touch me and something.

493
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, if you got a knuckle bump, it

494
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:23,441
Speaker 4: means that I didn't. I don't trust you, like you're

495
00:22:23,481 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 4: like you stay the distance, do you know what I mean?

496
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,561
Speaker 4: And people try and come up last, I'm like the

497
00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:31,561
Speaker 4: bro handshake and not even give you the normal handshake.

498
00:22:31,961 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: The fuck.

499
00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:35,521
Speaker 4: But I mean Funa did did all the big days

500
00:22:35,561 --> 00:22:36,641
Speaker 4: and did all the responses.

501
00:22:37,521 --> 00:22:38,761
Speaker 1: I had the best time there.

502
00:22:39,481 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 4: We were on big day out and I had I

503
00:22:41,201 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 4: had a team looking after because they had like three

504
00:22:43,441 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 4: hundred people at the front and they're chanting, chanting, chanting

505
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,561
Speaker 4: to do like storm over as a group, I got

506
00:22:49,561 --> 00:22:51,041
Speaker 4: twenty seven guards in front of me.

507
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,481
Speaker 1: Even if they grabbed two weeks, there's still two hundred

508
00:22:53,481 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: people going to get in, you know.

509
00:22:55,001 --> 00:22:57,321
Speaker 4: But I remember when we were at the front end

510
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,441
Speaker 4: and Funa was running the gate at the front head

511
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 4: his team of monsters right and as they were running over,

512
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 4: they were like rinning up and I did the most

513
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 4: beautiful tackles, you know what.

514
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like rugby tackles.

515
00:23:08,481 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: I think that day I made ahead about seven or

516
00:23:10,441 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: eight of just the most m just like ah, I

517
00:23:15,201 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 4: tackled as one dude and then I was I was

518
00:23:17,201 --> 00:23:19,481
Speaker 4: back on my post and then come over and he

519
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,401
Speaker 4: gave me the dude's glasses. He goes, this is your trophy.

520
00:23:22,521 --> 00:23:26,041
Speaker 4: We saw that, and I was like, don't wear in

521
00:23:26,041 --> 00:23:26,441
Speaker 4: their my eyes.

522
00:23:26,441 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: But I'm still pumped. I was like, did you see it?

523
00:23:28,721 --> 00:23:31,041
Speaker 1: I saw it too, Like that's the best.

524
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,961
Speaker 4: And like I said, for my I played rugby and stuff,

525
00:23:34,001 --> 00:23:36,721
Speaker 4: and for the whole season, you're always tackling every game,

526
00:23:36,761 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: but you might have like one or two. You're like,

527
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,521
Speaker 4: I fucking smashed that dude so hard on that day,

528
00:23:42,521 --> 00:23:43,521
Speaker 4: I had like seven or eight.

529
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,801
Speaker 1: I've just the nothing illegal Like I didn't didn't forearm

530
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,721
Speaker 1: the head, I didn't play it.

531
00:23:47,961 --> 00:23:50,361
Speaker 4: I didn't one minute. They were standing expended. They were

532
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,801
Speaker 4: like gasping for ear. I'm nearly fifty, you know, I

533
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,761
Speaker 4: was born in the seventies. I'd done a lot.

534
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: But I love it. I love it.

535
00:23:57,921 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 4: I miss it so much so I live vicariously for

536
00:24:00,561 --> 00:24:03,521
Speaker 4: my kids. Yeah, and like I said, I was, I

537
00:24:03,521 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 4: went to had a cage fight for my fifty.

538
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that, what was the best club you

539
00:24:07,281 --> 00:24:08,281
Speaker 2: worked on, you reckon.

540
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: Art House, Art House number one. Really for all the

541
00:24:14,681 --> 00:24:19,761
Speaker 1: clubs you've worked on, Pelicano, the Club, the Island for Hugos,

542
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,001
Speaker 1: Cuba at the Height, Cuba at the Height with the

543
00:24:23,281 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: key tags go through, Robbie Williams, Drew berymore parting and

544
00:24:25,921 --> 00:24:27,761
Speaker 1: everything thinking nightclub Man.

545
00:24:28,241 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: That place was bomb We had ministry of sound and

546
00:24:33,041 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: we were doing like three in our four thousand people

547
00:24:35,721 --> 00:24:37,961
Speaker 4: through my clickers. Think about that on the door, that's

548
00:24:37,961 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 4: eighty thousand dollars he made just on door entry fee,

549
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,441
Speaker 4: not a single beer salt every Saturday. That place was massive.

550
00:24:45,561 --> 00:24:50,041
Speaker 4: Like me and the head doorman there we thinked and

551
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,801
Speaker 4: then me and him just used to run that place

552
00:24:51,801 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: and it was so much fun.

553
00:24:54,321 --> 00:24:54,681
Speaker 1: It was.

554
00:24:55,721 --> 00:24:58,681
Speaker 4: It was the nicest people. Because I had so much

555
00:24:58,761 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 4: trouble at the door that I would deny so many people.

556
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: I had standoffs with like commentaris locked in outdoor and weapons,

557
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,761
Speaker 4: and I had a dude throw a steel bolt at

558
00:25:09,801 --> 00:25:11,201
Speaker 4: my head from a moving car.

559
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

560
00:25:12,281 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 4: It smashed the concrete and the concrete hit me in

561
00:25:16,241 --> 00:25:17,121
Speaker 4: the back of the head.

562
00:25:17,441 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: That thing would have killed me, do you know what

563
00:25:18,921 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean?

564
00:25:19,241 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: Like he didn't get away and the car and everything,

565
00:25:24,201 --> 00:25:26,481
Speaker 4: but they chased after him, and then the other cars

566
00:25:26,481 --> 00:25:29,761
Speaker 4: were parked up, smashed the window, dragging out well just

567
00:25:30,001 --> 00:25:31,041
Speaker 4: through the through the window.

568
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: He could have killed me, you know what I mean?

569
00:25:32,801 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 4: Over what I didn't not getting into a nightclubar But

570
00:25:36,481 --> 00:25:38,521
Speaker 4: that was the life, you know. There was a lot

571
00:25:38,561 --> 00:25:42,641
Speaker 4: of times when I first started bouncing, I didn't know anything,

572
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,521
Speaker 4: do you know. I didn't know how the things work.

573
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,801
Speaker 4: I didn't know how people work, and I didn't know

574
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: how structure, you know, the drug dealers, the runners, the

575
00:25:49,241 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: who's who, the enforcers, and I didn't know any of that.

576
00:25:52,921 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 4: The first club I got allowed to run was Daydreams,

577
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,201
Speaker 4: and I learned a lot, a lot of shit at

578
00:25:59,201 --> 00:26:02,521
Speaker 4: that place that had a mashitty attack for dwn Pitt Street,

579
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,641
Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff there.

580
00:26:03,721 --> 00:26:07,041
Speaker 1: It was. It was gnarly at day.

581
00:26:07,001 --> 00:26:09,041
Speaker 4: Dreams that opened at six am in the morning and

582
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,801
Speaker 4: used to close it to I never seen drugs before,

583
00:26:12,041 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 4: like any drugs, and usually got weed and alcohol, maybe

584
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:19,081
Speaker 4: some mushrooms, do you know what I mean? And then

585
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,561
Speaker 4: one of my first shifts at day Dreams, this dude

586
00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:25,201
Speaker 4: O d like foffing at the mouth, he went into

587
00:26:25,281 --> 00:26:28,281
Speaker 4: a k hole. I remember the first time I saw

588
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,281
Speaker 4: him drop. I don't know whether it was for one

589
00:26:30,321 --> 00:26:33,441
Speaker 4: second or ten seconds. But what do I do now?

590
00:26:33,561 --> 00:26:36,281
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I'm medically trained, do

591
00:26:36,321 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: you know? Just I just remember looking at him, thinking, fuck,

592
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:46,041
Speaker 1: just daunting to see someone like now a veteran now

593
00:26:47,001 --> 00:26:49,761
Speaker 1: walk over lining them up. Hey, look at me, look

594
00:26:51,241 --> 00:26:54,241
Speaker 1: makes sure No, I was looking staying his face. Oh,

595
00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:55,041
Speaker 1: wake up, wake up?

596
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:56,761
Speaker 2: No, who stand up?

597
00:26:56,801 --> 00:26:57,561
Speaker 1: Stand up? Stand up with me.

598
00:26:58,001 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: If you're nice, give them some lemon water, you know,

599
00:26:59,921 --> 00:27:01,801
Speaker 4: give them a shop to the system so that they

600
00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:04,561
Speaker 4: can function. But like I said, I had it so

601
00:27:04,681 --> 00:27:08,281
Speaker 4: much now that I'm desensitized to now, I feel like

602
00:27:09,241 --> 00:27:12,201
Speaker 4: it doesn't even like it doesn't affect me or raise

603
00:27:12,281 --> 00:27:13,041
Speaker 4: my heart rate at all.

604
00:27:13,321 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't remember you. You were quiet on the door,

605
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,721
Speaker 2: like yeah, like that.

606
00:27:17,281 --> 00:27:19,561
Speaker 3: I knew of you and I would see you, you know,

607
00:27:19,721 --> 00:27:21,801
Speaker 3: even even at Lady Loox. I remember seeing you there too,

608
00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: but we never spoke. I was just like I've seen it.

609
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,481
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always people watching, but always watching who's who

610
00:27:30,681 --> 00:27:33,481
Speaker 4: was where? Yeah, and we crossed past a whole bunch

611
00:27:33,561 --> 00:27:36,321
Speaker 4: of times. But yeah, I think that's because I used

612
00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:38,441
Speaker 4: to see a white red volver a lot. Yeah, well

613
00:27:38,441 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: that's that turned into something, you know. First one was

614
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: cream tangerine. We had the one off the top, and

615
00:27:43,481 --> 00:27:45,721
Speaker 4: then then we dropped down and with the dead smoke

616
00:27:45,801 --> 00:27:49,041
Speaker 4: and mirrors, white revolvers like they're rotating thing.

617
00:27:49,521 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: And then that was Wednesday nights.

618
00:27:51,481 --> 00:27:54,761
Speaker 4: It was the best place in all of Sydney on

619
00:27:54,801 --> 00:27:56,681
Speaker 4: a Wednesday night, you know what I mean. And it

620
00:27:56,761 --> 00:28:00,561
Speaker 4: was beautiful girls and then everyone was pumping and money.

621
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,841
Speaker 4: You could smell it like people were like looking after it.

622
00:28:03,441 --> 00:28:06,321
Speaker 4: And I loved it too. There was there was a

623
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,001
Speaker 4: good job and that's what I made. You the first

624
00:28:09,041 --> 00:28:12,641
Speaker 4: interaction that can't just be met. But how many times

625
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,041
Speaker 4: a shitty little manager tell me to go do something?

626
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,041
Speaker 4: Go kick him out, go get rid of them, go

627
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,801
Speaker 4: do this. The two owners they came over and tell

628
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: me and they're like, he hasn't paid his bill, nath

629
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: And I was like, tell him, if you don't go

630
00:28:27,241 --> 00:28:32,201
Speaker 4: pay it, he has to leave. And I was like,

631
00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:35,561
Speaker 4: but that's not my job, you know what I mean.

632
00:28:35,561 --> 00:28:38,201
Speaker 1: But they're so scared, you know. And that's what I did.

633
00:28:38,881 --> 00:28:42,881
Speaker 4: I chose it for the position and the timing of it,

634
00:28:43,201 --> 00:28:44,681
Speaker 4: which is probably what made you mad.

635
00:28:45,121 --> 00:28:45,761
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

636
00:28:45,801 --> 00:28:49,121
Speaker 4: Because I I waited till you set.

637
00:28:49,401 --> 00:28:51,401
Speaker 1: I waited till you had the girls.

638
00:28:51,561 --> 00:28:54,161
Speaker 4: Right, you drink, you know, if you push the pull

639
00:28:54,201 --> 00:28:58,761
Speaker 4: you you drink spill and it becomes a thing. But

640
00:28:58,881 --> 00:29:02,041
Speaker 4: I know that waiting was what made you instantly mad.

641
00:29:02,601 --> 00:29:05,001
Speaker 4: So I came over. You got your girls, you got John,

642
00:29:05,041 --> 00:29:06,761
Speaker 4: and everything's so good verson that, And I said, hey,

643
00:29:07,041 --> 00:29:08,841
Speaker 4: so did you know you you still don't pay your bill?

644
00:29:08,921 --> 00:29:12,401
Speaker 4: Last week like you were in a good mood, and

645
00:29:12,441 --> 00:29:14,721
Speaker 4: then you were just not in a goode you know

646
00:29:14,721 --> 00:29:15,081
Speaker 4: what I mean.

647
00:29:15,441 --> 00:29:17,361
Speaker 1: And then you're like look at me, and you went,

648
00:29:17,841 --> 00:29:19,481
Speaker 1: what did you say? Do you know what I mean?

649
00:29:19,521 --> 00:29:21,361
Speaker 1: And I think that's where you thought that I would

650
00:29:21,401 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: be like nothing, you know? And I said, this is

651
00:29:25,481 --> 00:29:26,841
Speaker 1: what we really made you, man.

652
00:29:27,561 --> 00:29:30,681
Speaker 4: Which was if you don't pay, I got told her

653
00:29:30,721 --> 00:29:32,481
Speaker 4: I have to ask you to leave, do you know

654
00:29:32,521 --> 00:29:32,921
Speaker 4: what I mean?

655
00:29:33,001 --> 00:29:35,641
Speaker 1: And then you stood up and you leaned in and

656
00:29:35,841 --> 00:29:39,921
Speaker 1: said what did you say? And I was like, oh,

657
00:29:40,801 --> 00:29:44,161
Speaker 1: but your front foot, I'm back. I know you're right

658
00:29:44,161 --> 00:29:45,921
Speaker 1: handed because of that one for the moment, do you

659
00:29:46,001 --> 00:29:46,481
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

660
00:29:46,521 --> 00:29:48,161
Speaker 4: Like like, yeah, you talked you right hand, and.

661
00:29:49,881 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: You were you were on the verge of giving me

662
00:29:51,721 --> 00:29:52,041
Speaker 1: a track.

663
00:29:52,161 --> 00:29:52,601
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

664
00:29:52,641 --> 00:29:55,361
Speaker 4: I understand it was coming, you know, like it was coming.

665
00:29:55,401 --> 00:29:56,841
Speaker 4: I was like looking, I was looking. I was looking,

666
00:29:58,121 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: and I just resigned to like I eat it, and

667
00:30:00,321 --> 00:30:04,641
Speaker 4: then John goes, just pay them because you were I

668
00:30:04,681 --> 00:30:08,081
Speaker 4: was fucking up the ambiance of your time, which was

669
00:30:08,121 --> 00:30:10,921
Speaker 4: why I chose the time to do it.

670
00:30:11,041 --> 00:30:11,681
Speaker 1: And I knew.

671
00:30:11,721 --> 00:30:13,081
Speaker 4: I knew that would piss you off. But I knew

672
00:30:13,081 --> 00:30:15,001
Speaker 4: that if I did it around the corner. What's to

673
00:30:15,081 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: do to tell me that the fund yourself?

674
00:30:16,761 --> 00:30:19,081
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Off, I do nothing. What

675
00:30:19,121 --> 00:30:21,201
Speaker 1: am I gonna do chase after you? No?

676
00:30:21,201 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: No, I said in your circle like you're you're on

677
00:30:23,601 --> 00:30:25,521
Speaker 4: chairs now, like I'm in the middle of your group.

678
00:30:26,281 --> 00:30:30,001
Speaker 4: This fox up the function of everything, and just pay them.

679
00:30:30,041 --> 00:30:31,761
Speaker 4: And then I was like, thank you any.

680
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:38,481
Speaker 1: You're like you like well, you walked off and then

681
00:30:38,801 --> 00:30:41,441
Speaker 1: you didn't talk to me or give me eye contact

682
00:30:41,441 --> 00:30:43,841
Speaker 1: for that day because I was in your ship list.

683
00:30:44,481 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I mean.

684
00:30:46,241 --> 00:30:50,201
Speaker 4: I knew that I bugged you, but I didn't see

685
00:30:50,241 --> 00:30:53,121
Speaker 4: another way to make it happen. Do you know what

686
00:30:53,161 --> 00:30:55,801
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, if John tell me to off, am

687
00:30:55,801 --> 00:30:57,841
Speaker 4: I going to stay after that choice?

688
00:30:59,041 --> 00:31:00,401
Speaker 1: Like nothing? You know what I mean?

689
00:31:01,041 --> 00:31:03,601
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know I picked my timings and stuff, but

690
00:31:03,761 --> 00:31:06,401
Speaker 4: I was like and then they were so relieved. I

691
00:31:06,401 --> 00:31:07,801
Speaker 4: was like, six hundred dollar, I'm going to get punched

692
00:31:07,801 --> 00:31:09,161
Speaker 4: in the face of six hundred dollars.

693
00:31:09,481 --> 00:31:13,361
Speaker 1: It's not even worth it, you know, Like you know,

694
00:31:13,441 --> 00:31:14,801
Speaker 1: it's one of those ones too where I have to

695
00:31:14,881 --> 00:31:17,521
Speaker 1: put my hands down, like you have to, like you know,

696
00:31:17,601 --> 00:31:19,081
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, ratchet.

697
00:31:19,161 --> 00:31:24,161
Speaker 4: And so I understand that I can read people like

698
00:31:24,241 --> 00:31:25,601
Speaker 4: I can go into a room, I tell you who

699
00:31:25,601 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: are runner is? Now, I can tell you everything the

700
00:31:27,761 --> 00:31:29,881
Speaker 4: way that I go into a yard, way that I

701
00:31:29,921 --> 00:31:33,281
Speaker 4: go into people. I'm man, I'm so in tune with

702
00:31:34,721 --> 00:31:39,001
Speaker 4: the flow of people's body language, movements and where they

703
00:31:39,081 --> 00:31:40,601
Speaker 4: place themselves, how they see that.

704
00:31:41,321 --> 00:31:45,121
Speaker 1: I can just tell a lot. And so it's a skill.

705
00:31:45,201 --> 00:31:48,601
Speaker 4: It's an art form that a lot of idiot bounces

706
00:31:48,881 --> 00:31:51,481
Speaker 4: just don't know if I'm going to kick you out.

707
00:31:52,121 --> 00:31:55,041
Speaker 4: I start organizing my pathway. Then I'm going to drag

708
00:31:55,081 --> 00:31:57,201
Speaker 4: I started moving all the bottles, I said, I see,

709
00:31:57,521 --> 00:32:00,681
Speaker 4: can I get you some movie? I start prepping for

710
00:32:00,761 --> 00:32:03,721
Speaker 4: worst case scenario, I haven't even spoken to you. I'm

711
00:32:03,761 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: just going to decide that and forgoes bad, You're going

712
00:32:06,801 --> 00:32:08,161
Speaker 4: to go this way, you know.

713
00:32:08,241 --> 00:32:09,121
Speaker 1: And then when I.

714
00:32:09,041 --> 00:32:10,601
Speaker 4: Set you up, how I left you up, How I

715
00:32:10,641 --> 00:32:14,281
Speaker 4: hold your elbow, where I place my hand. Everything is

716
00:32:14,361 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: tried and tested to the point where I practiced on

717
00:32:17,801 --> 00:32:19,361
Speaker 4: people that know that I'm going to do it to

718
00:32:19,401 --> 00:32:21,281
Speaker 4: them and still put their head on the ground.

719
00:32:21,801 --> 00:32:22,081
Speaker 1: Do you know?

720
00:32:22,201 --> 00:32:25,681
Speaker 4: So these other people have no chance. They don't think

721
00:32:25,681 --> 00:32:29,041
Speaker 4: it's coming. I don't look formidable, they don't think that

722
00:32:29,121 --> 00:32:31,281
Speaker 4: I got the goods. No one thinks I've got the goods.

723
00:32:31,441 --> 00:32:33,841
Speaker 4: If you talk about you, ask any person, and a

724
00:32:33,841 --> 00:32:35,721
Speaker 4: lot of people see me and they'll be like, I

725
00:32:35,841 --> 00:32:37,841
Speaker 4: don't want to mess with that fellow man. He's killing

726
00:32:37,841 --> 00:32:40,881
Speaker 4: his mass people. None of them say me, do you

727
00:32:40,921 --> 00:32:43,161
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And I was like, but I

728
00:32:44,321 --> 00:32:47,041
Speaker 4: think I knocked out more people than anyone I know.

729
00:32:47,481 --> 00:32:51,161
Speaker 4: Like my wife's on four four men, real fight, real

730
00:32:51,201 --> 00:32:53,761
Speaker 4: times she knocked out, and my tally is way more

731
00:32:53,801 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: than ners. My record is three in one fight, and

732
00:32:57,321 --> 00:33:01,241
Speaker 4: I've done that twice. But when I say three knock people,

733
00:33:01,241 --> 00:33:04,201
Speaker 4: three people unconscious, it's not me hopping into the middle

734
00:33:04,241 --> 00:33:05,321
Speaker 4: and going, yeah, let's go.

735
00:33:06,721 --> 00:33:09,841
Speaker 1: I run to the edge of the circle. Make sure

736
00:33:09,841 --> 00:33:10,801
Speaker 1: everybody's looking at me.

737
00:33:11,201 --> 00:33:14,921
Speaker 4: Picked my aggressor, sent to myself walking, had his knee,

738
00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:17,561
Speaker 4: grab him, phone, sink him down, put him to sleep,

739
00:33:17,841 --> 00:33:20,001
Speaker 4: lie him down so it didn't drop or fall his head,

740
00:33:20,401 --> 00:33:22,681
Speaker 4: walk around, pick my next victim.

741
00:33:22,881 --> 00:33:27,281
Speaker 1: It's never about having to like own the area.

742
00:33:27,441 --> 00:33:29,921
Speaker 4: And the reason I learned that is because I took

743
00:33:29,961 --> 00:33:32,041
Speaker 4: center stage once and I jumped in and I broke

744
00:33:32,081 --> 00:33:35,161
Speaker 4: this fire up. And then when we reviewed the video footage,

745
00:33:35,361 --> 00:33:38,401
Speaker 4: there was this dude with a steel bar and he

746
00:33:38,521 --> 00:33:41,401
Speaker 4: was tracking me left. He was in the crowd, and

747
00:33:41,601 --> 00:33:42,961
Speaker 4: a couple of times he came up to hit me,

748
00:33:43,161 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: but I moved to say he had to readjustment and

749
00:33:45,281 --> 00:33:50,001
Speaker 4: it was just sheer timing and luck that that didn't

750
00:33:50,001 --> 00:33:52,561
Speaker 4: smash my face in with a middle pole. I didn't

751
00:33:52,601 --> 00:33:54,921
Speaker 4: even recognize until we reviewed the footage and I was like,

752
00:33:54,961 --> 00:33:58,561
Speaker 4: look at him, he can't hit me. He nearly smashed me, Like,

753
00:33:58,641 --> 00:34:00,601
Speaker 4: and I didn't see him, you know what I mean.

754
00:34:01,041 --> 00:34:03,681
Speaker 4: There was a wake up call for me, like why

755
00:34:03,721 --> 00:34:04,761
Speaker 4: am I in the metal floor?

756
00:34:05,721 --> 00:34:05,921
Speaker 2: No?

757
00:34:06,481 --> 00:34:09,761
Speaker 4: Why do I put myself in danger? That's the dumbest

758
00:34:09,761 --> 00:34:13,561
Speaker 4: thing is to make myself the tiring and so people

759
00:34:13,601 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: think that they have it over me when they.

760
00:34:15,321 --> 00:34:16,801
Speaker 1: Talk to me because I'm small.

761
00:34:17,201 --> 00:34:19,601
Speaker 4: But I'm small so that when if you do something,

762
00:34:19,721 --> 00:34:22,841
Speaker 4: I can explode forward. I draw a line. People don't

763
00:34:22,841 --> 00:34:24,601
Speaker 4: see it, but if they cross it don't know it.

764
00:34:25,081 --> 00:34:28,361
Speaker 4: They know, but I didn't give us intimidating vibes. You

765
00:34:28,401 --> 00:34:30,801
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Then no one's worried about me.

766
00:34:31,361 --> 00:34:35,521
Speaker 4: I am precision in my movements. When dealing with people,

767
00:34:36,241 --> 00:34:38,201
Speaker 4: I'll ask you something because you're a bouncer, and this

768
00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:41,321
Speaker 4: is one of the things I'll be Like many people

769
00:34:41,321 --> 00:34:44,241
Speaker 4: you work with, I told you what hand you were

770
00:34:44,721 --> 00:34:47,121
Speaker 4: When dealing with someone, you're working with someone, do you

771
00:34:47,121 --> 00:34:49,801
Speaker 4: say exchange like are you left handed or you're right handed?

772
00:34:50,201 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: And the reason why it's because if you're right handed

773
00:34:52,081 --> 00:34:53,881
Speaker 4: or if you're left handed, your best side would be

774
00:34:53,921 --> 00:34:56,281
Speaker 4: that side My best side to say us both are stronger.

775
00:34:56,521 --> 00:34:59,081
Speaker 4: So when we can conversate, we're going to peel away

776
00:34:59,841 --> 00:35:02,361
Speaker 4: a case that we can split this person's attention and

777
00:35:02,361 --> 00:35:05,041
Speaker 4: then your hand or my hands are on stronger side.

778
00:35:06,601 --> 00:35:07,841
Speaker 1: Not many people plan.

779
00:35:08,241 --> 00:35:11,721
Speaker 4: Not many people have their their catchwords when when speaking

780
00:35:11,761 --> 00:35:14,041
Speaker 4: in a sentence to let you know that I'm going

781
00:35:14,041 --> 00:35:15,041
Speaker 4: to smash this dudeo.

782
00:35:15,521 --> 00:35:17,161
Speaker 1: You know, I mean to let you know the target.

783
00:35:17,201 --> 00:35:23,241
Speaker 4: They don't pre empt that type of planning, especially for extraction,

784
00:35:23,481 --> 00:35:28,401
Speaker 4: like especially to like maneuver someone out so that they.

785
00:35:28,281 --> 00:35:30,041
Speaker 1: Don't mess up the flow of the club.

786
00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:32,321
Speaker 4: You're ruin the whole vibe if you have a massive

787
00:35:32,321 --> 00:35:35,081
Speaker 4: punch on it and everyone's just sitting there like scared

788
00:35:35,121 --> 00:35:38,401
Speaker 4: and daunted and jaden, because people don't are so scared

789
00:35:38,441 --> 00:35:40,561
Speaker 4: of even if they have like a push and a skarfuffle,

790
00:35:40,841 --> 00:35:44,281
Speaker 4: people are, oh my god, I'm like good skerfuffle like

791
00:35:44,281 --> 00:35:48,441
Speaker 4: like hardly even swings, if you can call those swings.

792
00:35:48,441 --> 00:35:50,961
Speaker 4: That's the shiittest punch as ever, because they don't practice

793
00:35:51,641 --> 00:35:53,961
Speaker 4: if you if you practice in there, they don't practice

794
00:35:53,961 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: getting hit. Paxson Gracie has a saying that I love,

795
00:35:57,201 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: which is, punch black belt hard enough in the head

796
00:36:01,721 --> 00:36:04,801
Speaker 4: becomes a brown belt. Punch them hard enough again becomes

797
00:36:04,801 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: a you know what I mean? Because the world nothing

798
00:36:07,081 --> 00:36:09,641
Speaker 4: about a white belt, you know, it's about his senses

799
00:36:09,681 --> 00:36:13,401
Speaker 4: and stuff. You know, I've had Firstly, I have to

800
00:36:13,481 --> 00:36:15,881
Speaker 4: fight black belts in like mma and stuff.

801
00:36:15,881 --> 00:36:18,601
Speaker 1: So I mean stuff. But I've had dudes that you

802
00:36:18,641 --> 00:36:22,001
Speaker 1: can see that they're like, you won't sound anything is

803
00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:26,321
Speaker 1: a qualiflower, and they think I'm going to fight them. No,

804
00:36:26,561 --> 00:36:27,801
Speaker 1: I wait till he's distracted.

805
00:36:28,081 --> 00:36:30,641
Speaker 4: I hit his shoulder, I slap his face and turns,

806
00:36:30,881 --> 00:36:32,721
Speaker 4: and then I go behind him and I choke him out.

807
00:36:33,121 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: I say that knowing that there's a black belt out there,

808
00:36:35,521 --> 00:36:37,201
Speaker 4: knowing that I did it to him. So if he

809
00:36:37,241 --> 00:36:40,841
Speaker 4: sees this, we're like, you remember it because he would

810
00:36:40,881 --> 00:36:42,881
Speaker 4: smash me on the jiu jitsu field like he would.

811
00:36:43,161 --> 00:36:45,361
Speaker 4: He would eat me up so fast, so many times,

812
00:36:45,481 --> 00:36:46,521
Speaker 4: in so many different ways.

813
00:36:46,601 --> 00:36:48,681
Speaker 1: So why would I wait for him? Have you seen

814
00:36:48,681 --> 00:36:50,201
Speaker 1: those ones taken off? This shit? Oh?

815
00:36:50,281 --> 00:36:53,321
Speaker 4: Like that's crazy to me, you know, Like, why would

816
00:36:53,321 --> 00:36:55,561
Speaker 4: you give someone a pre indicator that I'm going to

817
00:36:55,561 --> 00:36:59,081
Speaker 4: give you a hiding Verbally? Why do you say things

818
00:36:59,121 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: like I'm going to smash you. If I say I'm

819
00:37:02,481 --> 00:37:04,561
Speaker 4: going to kill you, I'm going to kill you, motherfucker,

820
00:37:04,601 --> 00:37:06,041
Speaker 4: you know, and we have a fight.

821
00:37:05,881 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: And you die.

822
00:37:07,201 --> 00:37:10,201
Speaker 4: Mansell turns to premeditate it because you said the words

823
00:37:10,201 --> 00:37:14,481
Speaker 4: before that Fox everything up. I can't understand why officers

824
00:37:14,561 --> 00:37:18,041
Speaker 4: be talking and saying shit to the person that doesn't

825
00:37:18,081 --> 00:37:21,881
Speaker 4: mean anything. They're not word perfect themselves because they start

826
00:37:21,881 --> 00:37:25,361
Speaker 4: to get emotional. I'll tell you what I would do

827
00:37:25,921 --> 00:37:27,801
Speaker 4: if I had an altercation with you and it was

828
00:37:27,841 --> 00:37:31,161
Speaker 4: bad enough, I would walk outside. I'd go put a

829
00:37:31,161 --> 00:37:34,001
Speaker 4: hoodie on. I'd come back. I'll clip you, and then

830
00:37:34,041 --> 00:37:35,681
Speaker 4: i'd come back, take my hoodie off and do first

831
00:37:35,721 --> 00:37:36,881
Speaker 4: date on you.

832
00:37:36,881 --> 00:37:40,081
Speaker 1: You're okay, brother? What happened? Somebody knocked you out?

833
00:37:40,521 --> 00:37:43,001
Speaker 4: I don't understand why you would preempt the warning to

834
00:37:43,081 --> 00:37:45,401
Speaker 4: let them know you're coming. And I've given heaps of

835
00:37:45,401 --> 00:37:49,881
Speaker 4: people on the door without screaming, without yelling. How about

836
00:37:50,041 --> 00:37:53,401
Speaker 4: without making the thing you obviously feel upset, We can

837
00:37:53,441 --> 00:37:54,001
Speaker 4: go over there.

838
00:37:54,521 --> 00:37:54,721
Speaker 1: You know.

839
00:37:55,281 --> 00:37:59,041
Speaker 4: I've even offered to let them. You feel a bit

840
00:37:59,281 --> 00:38:00,761
Speaker 4: hard done by it, and I feel thinking and I

841
00:38:00,841 --> 00:38:02,801
Speaker 4: see you getting angry, So how about this, and this

842
00:38:02,881 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: is no word without a light. I'll put my hands down.

843
00:38:05,481 --> 00:38:07,761
Speaker 4: I'll literally punched me once, and they had all the

844
00:38:07,761 --> 00:38:11,081
Speaker 4: guts you can pick, okay, and then we'll call it evens,

845
00:38:11,681 --> 00:38:14,081
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? And they're like, no retaliation,

846
00:38:14,281 --> 00:38:16,201
Speaker 4: just you can hit me, you know, and then they go.

847
00:38:17,721 --> 00:38:21,921
Speaker 1: Or the other one. They start screaming. I think you

848
00:38:21,961 --> 00:38:24,921
Speaker 1: hear the first part of the don't scream without yelling like, oh,

849
00:38:25,041 --> 00:38:25,721
Speaker 1: let you have one.

850
00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:27,681
Speaker 4: You're like, you punched me, and then we can call

851
00:38:27,721 --> 00:38:30,201
Speaker 4: it evens it means nothing, like how does you can

852
00:38:30,281 --> 00:38:34,081
Speaker 4: just smash me? And they never accept and then why

853
00:38:34,081 --> 00:38:37,321
Speaker 4: are you here for? Why are you making all the scene?

854
00:38:38,641 --> 00:38:43,881
Speaker 4: They never understood why they have so much. It's because

855
00:38:43,921 --> 00:38:46,241
Speaker 4: there's fair, there's genuine.

856
00:38:46,161 --> 00:38:48,401
Speaker 3: Fare, but they but they want to show that they're

857
00:38:48,561 --> 00:38:50,841
Speaker 3: leader or they've got the power, but they haven't really.

858
00:38:52,041 --> 00:38:57,001
Speaker 4: I acquainted to a peacock puts up the big fish.

859
00:38:57,641 --> 00:39:00,761
Speaker 4: I'm big and scary, but really it's a shitty little bird,

860
00:39:01,321 --> 00:39:05,001
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And somebody I'm like, when

861
00:39:05,081 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: I first got to Australia, Ozzie's and please osies, don't

862
00:39:08,521 --> 00:39:12,401
Speaker 4: don't get mad at me. They would all abuse me verbally,

863
00:39:12,441 --> 00:39:15,161
Speaker 4: and in New Zealand we would fight more often and

864
00:39:15,281 --> 00:39:16,921
Speaker 4: faster or less for eye contact.

865
00:39:17,641 --> 00:39:20,561
Speaker 1: And then I got here, fuck you, I'll kill you your.

866
00:39:20,481 --> 00:39:23,001
Speaker 4: Mother and I'd be like, pull on my opis, put

867
00:39:23,041 --> 00:39:25,681
Speaker 4: my hands up and then they're like, hey, you're just talking,

868
00:39:25,721 --> 00:39:28,241
Speaker 4: and I was like, I can't go and tell my

869
00:39:28,321 --> 00:39:30,081
Speaker 4: mum on you do you know what I mean? All

870
00:39:30,121 --> 00:39:31,721
Speaker 4: I got is to smesh your facing And if you

871
00:39:31,721 --> 00:39:34,121
Speaker 4: don't want me to smash your face and leave me alone,

872
00:39:34,321 --> 00:39:36,041
Speaker 4: like what are you doing?

873
00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:36,841
Speaker 1: But they yell and.

874
00:39:37,001 --> 00:39:39,521
Speaker 4: They say real terrible stuff. Do you know what I mean?

875
00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:42,201
Speaker 4: That they don't mean it, there's not essence behind it.

876
00:39:42,921 --> 00:39:45,841
Speaker 4: And the three times where I've had someone come up

877
00:39:45,881 --> 00:39:48,841
Speaker 4: and say nothing and they've scared me, Like one dude

878
00:39:48,881 --> 00:39:50,921
Speaker 4: come up and he guys, we're at home and he

879
00:39:51,041 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: comes right up to my face and he's just.

880
00:39:53,361 --> 00:39:55,041
Speaker 1: Turned around and walked away, and I was like, where

881
00:39:55,081 --> 00:39:57,601
Speaker 1: did dad? Dude? He came back to the drive by.

882
00:39:57,841 --> 00:39:58,921
Speaker 1: He just showed us as weapon.

883
00:39:58,961 --> 00:40:03,681
Speaker 4: But bye, I hadn't pissed them off enough to cross over,

884
00:40:03,801 --> 00:40:06,801
Speaker 4: but he was right there. This was the difference when

885
00:40:06,841 --> 00:40:12,241
Speaker 4: I watched people, like the way that they assess themselves themselves,

886
00:40:12,401 --> 00:40:14,281
Speaker 4: like the way that they're going to like a plan.

887
00:40:14,841 --> 00:40:18,401
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not dropping in for the I once

888
00:40:18,481 --> 00:40:22,881
Speaker 4: watched Decks, you know Decks film comtows. So he was

889
00:40:23,001 --> 00:40:26,641
Speaker 4: Sergeant Armstead said he was partying at the Eastern Yes

890
00:40:27,041 --> 00:40:29,441
Speaker 4: in Bondoi Junction, AKA. He was partying and I was

891
00:40:29,561 --> 00:40:33,721
Speaker 4: working there and he come in and these dudes were loud.

892
00:40:33,881 --> 00:40:36,721
Speaker 4: There's the rugby dues that are all big six four

893
00:40:36,921 --> 00:40:40,681
Speaker 4: six two six five and some of them like a

894
00:40:40,681 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: Buck fifty or Buck forty five. You know, they big boys, right,

895
00:40:44,961 --> 00:40:48,121
Speaker 4: and they obviously feel confident because their whole team's there.

896
00:40:49,281 --> 00:40:51,801
Speaker 4: He knocked out six dudes, he would, and he had

897
00:40:51,841 --> 00:40:55,201
Speaker 4: his pathway was like left right is the He hit

898
00:40:55,281 --> 00:40:57,401
Speaker 4: one knowing that this follow was coming and hit that

899
00:40:57,481 --> 00:41:00,201
Speaker 4: one on the run, and he walked through straight to

900
00:41:00,281 --> 00:41:03,561
Speaker 4: the exit, straight outside and then exit. He he mapped

901
00:41:03,561 --> 00:41:07,001
Speaker 4: out his exit strategy before he threw his first punch,

902
00:41:07,521 --> 00:41:08,481
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean?

903
00:41:08,801 --> 00:41:12,041
Speaker 1: Like that's at least some skills.

904
00:41:12,081 --> 00:41:14,841
Speaker 4: You know, like because there's all these emotional they don't

905
00:41:14,841 --> 00:41:15,881
Speaker 4: know what they're gonna do next.

906
00:41:16,361 --> 00:41:17,681
Speaker 1: They don't even know what they're gonna do after the

907
00:41:17,681 --> 00:41:18,241
Speaker 1: first punch.

908
00:41:18,601 --> 00:41:20,401
Speaker 4: They've only got the I'm going to hit him and

909
00:41:20,441 --> 00:41:22,721
Speaker 4: then he's gonna go unconscious, but they haven't even planned

910
00:41:22,841 --> 00:41:27,601
Speaker 4: for anything else. And watching Dak's he smoked those dudes, man,

911
00:41:27,681 --> 00:41:32,121
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, that's so oh. I impressed,

912
00:41:32,361 --> 00:41:36,201
Speaker 4: you know, like you like good work. And that's because

913
00:41:36,281 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: Dax understands true violence, Like he knows when he's gonna

914
00:41:40,001 --> 00:41:40,281
Speaker 4: hurt you.

915
00:41:40,321 --> 00:41:41,481
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna hurt you.

916
00:41:41,641 --> 00:41:44,641
Speaker 4: He's not gonna swing, You're gonna like you're gonna jump

917
00:41:44,641 --> 00:41:45,201
Speaker 4: through your knee.

918
00:41:45,201 --> 00:41:48,761
Speaker 1: Cause what's the worst thing you've seen on the door?

919
00:41:49,521 --> 00:41:53,921
Speaker 4: A defining moment, I said, the club, it's like nine o'clock.

920
00:41:54,121 --> 00:41:56,201
Speaker 4: You know, back in the day, no one would even

921
00:41:56,201 --> 00:41:58,001
Speaker 4: go out to eleven, you know what I mean?

922
00:41:58,081 --> 00:42:01,241
Speaker 1: Like that's dead, nine thirty, ten o'clock. The ship.

923
00:42:01,401 --> 00:42:04,401
Speaker 4: Dude, he's in a singer. He's in a blue white

924
00:42:04,481 --> 00:42:07,921
Speaker 4: better stone washed DNI jeans. Why the fuck with a

925
00:42:08,001 --> 00:42:11,881
Speaker 4: stone washed anyway? Stone washed e jeans and tea and Nike,

926
00:42:12,041 --> 00:42:14,841
Speaker 4: So you can guess the demographic and the fuck with

927
00:42:15,121 --> 00:42:19,601
Speaker 4: of this person. He bowls up. He's walking. I see

928
00:42:19,601 --> 00:42:21,561
Speaker 4: this dude from mile away. He's walking up the road

929
00:42:21,601 --> 00:42:23,961
Speaker 4: to comeing towards me. I clipped the ballard, you know,

930
00:42:24,121 --> 00:42:26,481
Speaker 4: and the bollard people be like that saves you right

931
00:42:27,401 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: straight away?

932
00:42:27,961 --> 00:42:30,361
Speaker 1: They do pools out of gun man, you fuck around,

933
00:42:30,401 --> 00:42:31,361
Speaker 1: we can't fuck around.

934
00:42:31,401 --> 00:42:36,121
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, he's already heightened, do you

935
00:42:36,121 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: know what I mean? He's fucking and he's not playing

936
00:42:38,561 --> 00:42:39,681
Speaker 4: with the four decker cards.

937
00:42:39,801 --> 00:42:40,401
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

938
00:42:40,441 --> 00:42:43,841
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, I tell you right now,

939
00:42:44,121 --> 00:42:48,121
Speaker 4: my ass the pocket. He didn't point it at me yet.

940
00:42:48,361 --> 00:42:52,161
Speaker 4: I started talking to this dude, and I got this

941
00:42:52,161 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: this mythodology that I teach to my students or whatever,

942
00:42:55,001 --> 00:42:57,161
Speaker 4: because I teach the security and training and stuff as

943
00:42:57,681 --> 00:43:00,041
Speaker 4: the goal is if I can get your attention, like

944
00:43:00,081 --> 00:43:02,041
Speaker 4: if I can get you to answer a question, I

945
00:43:02,041 --> 00:43:04,241
Speaker 4: can lead the conversation as if I if I lead

946
00:43:04,241 --> 00:43:06,801
Speaker 4: the conversation and goes somewhere, and I did this fun

947
00:43:06,841 --> 00:43:09,601
Speaker 4: to him, which is all bullshit. I tell you how

948
00:43:09,641 --> 00:43:12,921
Speaker 4: much bullshit is when Guz'm freaking out, freaking out here,

949
00:43:13,041 --> 00:43:14,721
Speaker 4: you fuck around, you're fucking the We're gonna come home.

950
00:43:14,801 --> 00:43:16,441
Speaker 4: And then his hand comes up and just as his

951
00:43:16,441 --> 00:43:19,401
Speaker 4: hand comes out to point at me, he's obviously drug fucked.

952
00:43:19,761 --> 00:43:21,841
Speaker 4: Do you know he wasn't coming club ing? Look, I

953
00:43:21,921 --> 00:43:24,001
Speaker 4: fucking shit is closer, and I talk out of my

954
00:43:24,041 --> 00:43:27,601
Speaker 4: ass to go, hey, bo, do you know mcowie?

955
00:43:28,641 --> 00:43:29,961
Speaker 1: And I don't know Mcowie.

956
00:43:30,241 --> 00:43:33,161
Speaker 4: But at the time mcawie had just been arrested for

957
00:43:33,321 --> 00:43:36,281
Speaker 4: the murder at the airport with a Ballard, right, he

958
00:43:36,361 --> 00:43:39,241
Speaker 4: just got getting twenty four years years jail for that, right,

959
00:43:39,441 --> 00:43:41,601
Speaker 4: I says, do you know mcawie? And I don't know Macawi,

960
00:43:41,641 --> 00:43:43,041
Speaker 4: but I asked him, I said, do you know mckawi

961
00:43:43,521 --> 00:43:46,721
Speaker 4: And he goes, yeah, bo, he registered he knew who

962
00:43:46,801 --> 00:43:49,521
Speaker 4: Mcowi was. And I go, well, Mcowie's in jail now

963
00:43:49,561 --> 00:43:53,001
Speaker 4: for twenty four years because of the video footage that

964
00:43:53,121 --> 00:43:55,521
Speaker 4: was called at the airport right there. And I says,

965
00:43:55,601 --> 00:43:58,041
Speaker 4: right now, we've got seventy cameras. The reason why I

966
00:43:58,081 --> 00:43:59,721
Speaker 4: point this out, and I just want to ask you something.

967
00:44:00,241 --> 00:44:03,481
Speaker 4: Have you even thought about your exit strategy when you

968
00:44:03,481 --> 00:44:05,481
Speaker 4: shop meet? Like is this the police station down there?

969
00:44:05,521 --> 00:44:08,161
Speaker 4: Which way you're going to go? He've got a vehicle parked.

970
00:44:08,281 --> 00:44:11,121
Speaker 4: He mapped up where you're running to after the shops

971
00:44:11,161 --> 00:44:13,361
Speaker 4: fired and stuff, and he's looking at me. I'm giving

972
00:44:13,441 --> 00:44:15,601
Speaker 4: him tips on how to waste me, but I'm asking

973
00:44:15,641 --> 00:44:18,281
Speaker 4: him questions. That's fucking with his mind a little bit

974
00:44:18,321 --> 00:44:20,481
Speaker 4: because he's thinking about it. And I go straight up

975
00:44:20,521 --> 00:44:23,401
Speaker 4: and I grabbed the ballet and I unclipped it. I'm

976
00:44:23,441 --> 00:44:26,481
Speaker 4: gonna fuck about this job, and I went to the side.

977
00:44:26,761 --> 00:44:28,761
Speaker 4: I went out of the side and I hopped on

978
00:44:28,801 --> 00:44:30,601
Speaker 4: the other side next to him. Bo, if you want

979
00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:31,841
Speaker 4: to go on by, you going by and go fuck

980
00:44:31,841 --> 00:44:33,041
Speaker 4: about this place. I mean nothing to me.

981
00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:34,601
Speaker 1: This is the lie.

982
00:44:34,641 --> 00:44:36,241
Speaker 4: And I always tell people not to lie, but this

983
00:44:36,281 --> 00:44:38,521
Speaker 4: is I got a wife and kids. Of course I

984
00:44:38,521 --> 00:44:40,241
Speaker 4: didn't have a wife and kids at that time, but

985
00:44:40,241 --> 00:44:41,881
Speaker 4: that's what I told him. I got a wife and kids,

986
00:44:42,041 --> 00:44:44,041
Speaker 4: and go fuck about this place. Both do whatever you want.

987
00:44:44,241 --> 00:44:46,081
Speaker 4: And me and him are sitting facing the same way

988
00:44:46,281 --> 00:44:48,961
Speaker 4: going into the club with the gap opened up. You

989
00:44:49,201 --> 00:44:51,721
Speaker 4: have everything, just trying to get him on side, and

990
00:44:51,801 --> 00:44:54,241
Speaker 4: I knew that I fucked with his mind a little bit,

991
00:44:54,281 --> 00:44:56,401
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And then he was like,

992
00:44:57,041 --> 00:45:00,161
Speaker 4: you know well, and fuck who are And then both

993
00:45:00,161 --> 00:45:03,641
Speaker 4: put it away and he fucking fucked off. I remember

994
00:45:03,801 --> 00:45:07,721
Speaker 4: just coming in. I me clefting and offices from adrenaline

995
00:45:07,801 --> 00:45:11,081
Speaker 4: dump job. After like like while I was talking, I

996
00:45:11,081 --> 00:45:16,401
Speaker 4: felt I was cool, calm, collected. Afterwards the shakes, we

997
00:45:16,441 --> 00:45:20,241
Speaker 4: call it Calwardy. I laid on the floor, Sticky, just

998
00:45:20,321 --> 00:45:22,441
Speaker 4: laid on the floor and I said, I'm not working

999
00:45:22,441 --> 00:45:24,761
Speaker 4: tonight and I don't go for fuck. Two weeks later

1000
00:45:24,881 --> 00:45:27,201
Speaker 4: and I moved to Western Australia.

1001
00:45:27,001 --> 00:45:28,961
Speaker 1: Because my thought was, why.

1002
00:45:28,801 --> 00:45:32,881
Speaker 4: Am I risking my life for fucking money? You know

1003
00:45:32,921 --> 00:45:34,481
Speaker 4: what I mean, It's it's fuck all, even if it's

1004
00:45:34,481 --> 00:45:35,961
Speaker 4: a thousand dollars, it's fucking money.

1005
00:45:36,921 --> 00:45:37,601
Speaker 1: So I said I.

1006
00:45:37,601 --> 00:45:38,961
Speaker 4: Was going to have a break, and so I was

1007
00:45:38,961 --> 00:45:43,081
Speaker 4: going to go through security in the minds the thing,

1008
00:45:43,161 --> 00:45:45,841
Speaker 4: you know, because they make good money, long hours. I

1009
00:45:45,921 --> 00:45:49,001
Speaker 4: ended up getting recruited and get it, landing on Christmas Island.

1010
00:45:49,561 --> 00:45:51,721
Speaker 1: The dude they pulled the gun on me changed my life,

1011
00:45:52,481 --> 00:45:52,921
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1012
00:45:52,961 --> 00:45:55,161
Speaker 4: I appreciate him so much, you know, like it wasn't

1013
00:45:55,161 --> 00:45:57,401
Speaker 4: for me, I wouldn't have a lot of what I've

1014
00:45:57,401 --> 00:45:59,521
Speaker 4: done on the pathway that I've done since then.

1015
00:46:01,401 --> 00:46:05,361
Speaker 1: Man, so appreciate it. After that emergency response creations like

1016
00:46:05,761 --> 00:46:09,561
Speaker 1: all this another tear to my security and all thankful

1017
00:46:09,601 --> 00:46:11,001
Speaker 1: to the fun with the gun on me.

1018
00:46:11,961 --> 00:46:15,681
Speaker 4: But yeah, I had one dad turn in my house

1019
00:46:15,721 --> 00:46:19,321
Speaker 4: with a fucking shotgun. He never raised it once, But

1020
00:46:19,401 --> 00:46:22,481
Speaker 4: I call you, man, my ass fuck pucket hard. He

1021
00:46:22,561 --> 00:46:25,961
Speaker 4: never his voice never quivered once, told me that I

1022
00:46:26,361 --> 00:46:30,001
Speaker 4: watched myself. I gave a nominee or prospect I gave.

1023
00:46:30,041 --> 00:46:32,801
Speaker 4: I gave one of the like yeah, I gave one

1024
00:46:32,801 --> 00:46:34,641
Speaker 4: of them my hiding, but he started, he sucked through

1025
00:46:34,681 --> 00:46:37,801
Speaker 4: punches and and yes, I gave my hiding afterwards, and

1026
00:46:37,841 --> 00:46:40,401
Speaker 4: so they he didn't get his patch because of it,

1027
00:46:40,441 --> 00:46:43,001
Speaker 4: because I think, especially because he saw how little I

1028
00:46:43,201 --> 00:46:45,841
Speaker 4: was and how big he was, they heard his feelings.

1029
00:46:46,801 --> 00:46:49,401
Speaker 1: Fuck but this dude had tattoos all across his facing,

1030
00:46:49,801 --> 00:46:52,801
Speaker 1: all his ring head, like five rings on here, menacing

1031
00:46:52,881 --> 00:46:55,241
Speaker 1: like six four muscles and shit. Yeah, I beat the

1032
00:46:55,241 --> 00:46:56,521
Speaker 1: fuck out of him dinner.

1033
00:46:56,561 --> 00:46:59,201
Speaker 4: And then I think they wanted retribution because they thought

1034
00:46:59,201 --> 00:47:01,161
Speaker 4: there might have been more people. And then when I

1035
00:47:01,201 --> 00:47:04,281
Speaker 4: explained it was just me, and they were like, you notice,

1036
00:47:04,441 --> 00:47:07,641
Speaker 4: no fuck around again. You know you put your hands

1037
00:47:07,641 --> 00:47:11,561
Speaker 4: on people again. I said, I didn't touch him. He

1038
00:47:11,801 --> 00:47:14,321
Speaker 4: swung on me. Everything I did was at a defense.

1039
00:47:14,401 --> 00:47:16,841
Speaker 4: I wasn't really, but you know what I mean, Like

1040
00:47:16,881 --> 00:47:19,121
Speaker 4: he started, you finish it.

1041
00:47:19,721 --> 00:47:21,121
Speaker 2: So what are you doing now that? What are you

1042
00:47:21,201 --> 00:47:21,721
Speaker 2: up to now?

1043
00:47:22,521 --> 00:47:28,721
Speaker 4: So I do detension, immigration, corrections, security, still do all that.

1044
00:47:28,921 --> 00:47:33,521
Speaker 4: I have my own tactical response training, so I teach

1045
00:47:34,161 --> 00:47:37,761
Speaker 4: things like this about like the door and heart rate

1046
00:47:37,801 --> 00:47:43,201
Speaker 4: and breathing and stuff. And I'm putting together manuals and stuff.

1047
00:47:43,201 --> 00:47:45,721
Speaker 4: But what I eventually want to do, hopefully if I

1048
00:47:45,761 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: ever get the pathway, is I'd like to take over

1049
00:47:49,121 --> 00:47:56,161
Speaker 4: the security industries protocols so that my courses become the standard,

1050
00:47:56,721 --> 00:47:58,161
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? So I'm working my

1051
00:47:58,201 --> 00:48:01,801
Speaker 4: way towards that kind of progression. So you know, I

1052
00:48:01,881 --> 00:48:04,801
Speaker 4: designed courses and do other things like that, and just

1053
00:48:04,841 --> 00:48:08,641
Speaker 4: because what's out there? So shit, do you know what

1054
00:48:08,681 --> 00:48:11,401
Speaker 4: I mean? I've done so many of these courses and

1055
00:48:11,441 --> 00:48:16,121
Speaker 4: they just I look at the instructor, I think I'd

1056
00:48:16,201 --> 00:48:19,201
Speaker 4: smash your face. And if we had a what do

1057
00:48:19,201 --> 00:48:22,521
Speaker 4: you reckon now? To nowadays? Security on the doors to

1058
00:48:22,721 --> 00:48:26,361
Speaker 4: back when we did it harder now just with those

1059
00:48:26,401 --> 00:48:28,001
Speaker 4: cameras and everything like this. You've got to be more

1060
00:48:28,041 --> 00:48:32,401
Speaker 4: on point. But it's harder for a different reason, I believe.

1061
00:48:33,121 --> 00:48:34,841
Speaker 4: But if I said, I'm going to sound like old men,

1062
00:48:36,041 --> 00:48:40,601
Speaker 4: because you could clip someone if they've got two in

1063
00:48:40,641 --> 00:48:42,321
Speaker 4: your face, you know what I mean?

1064
00:48:42,361 --> 00:48:45,681
Speaker 1: You could clip someone. It stopped a lot of that

1065
00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:48,401
Speaker 1: in your face, you know what I mean?

1066
00:48:49,081 --> 00:48:51,441
Speaker 4: It was many people coming into your face be like

1067
00:48:51,481 --> 00:48:55,201
Speaker 4: fucking abusing you and shit, whereas now they'd.

1068
00:48:55,041 --> 00:48:57,641
Speaker 1: Be abusing you right in your face, cameras.

1069
00:48:57,681 --> 00:49:01,001
Speaker 4: Are they wanting it like they baiting it?

1070
00:49:01,041 --> 00:49:04,961
Speaker 1: They are so not scared of their teeth getting knocked out,

1071
00:49:05,361 --> 00:49:06,081
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?

1072
00:49:06,681 --> 00:49:09,361
Speaker 4: They just but are still teeth costs a lot of

1073
00:49:09,361 --> 00:49:10,761
Speaker 4: money to fix and.

1074
00:49:10,721 --> 00:49:12,241
Speaker 1: They hurt, do you know?

1075
00:49:12,361 --> 00:49:15,521
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, you still it doesn't matter that

1076
00:49:15,561 --> 00:49:16,881
Speaker 4: you're going to be in the right, doesn't matter that

1077
00:49:16,921 --> 00:49:19,241
Speaker 4: your money and think like you really want that, Like

1078
00:49:19,281 --> 00:49:22,641
Speaker 4: it's just they have no fear for the consequences of

1079
00:49:22,961 --> 00:49:27,361
Speaker 4: what could happen. That's where a lot of the assaults

1080
00:49:27,401 --> 00:49:31,401
Speaker 4: are coming from. Our bounces, because these things are happening

1081
00:49:31,841 --> 00:49:34,561
Speaker 4: and they haven't got the skill set to deal with

1082
00:49:34,601 --> 00:49:39,281
Speaker 4: that altercation without resorting to view and that's where they're

1083
00:49:39,281 --> 00:49:41,161
Speaker 4: clipping people and getting in trouble and all this other

1084
00:49:41,361 --> 00:49:45,161
Speaker 4: because they haven't caught or learned emotional control, do you know.

1085
00:49:45,321 --> 00:49:47,801
Speaker 1: And a lot of them because.

1086
00:49:47,561 --> 00:49:49,561
Speaker 4: They don't train it the two week course that they

1087
00:49:49,561 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 4: go one way course or two day course whatever they run.

1088
00:49:52,481 --> 00:49:56,601
Speaker 4: And now it's it's legislation, but it doesn't give you

1089
00:49:56,641 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: like tactics or how to deal with people and how

1090
00:50:00,481 --> 00:50:04,721
Speaker 4: to like calm a situation done. I'll give you an

1091
00:50:04,761 --> 00:50:07,641
Speaker 4: easy one that I that I teach which and I

1092
00:50:07,681 --> 00:50:10,081
Speaker 4: wonder if you've ever done it for the goes. Do

1093
00:50:10,121 --> 00:50:11,681
Speaker 4: you know how many times you breathe in a minute?

1094
00:50:12,841 --> 00:50:16,121
Speaker 4: You know, average person breathes about six six a minute.

1095
00:50:16,481 --> 00:50:19,961
Speaker 4: If I start swearing at you and I said, fuck you, motherfucker,

1096
00:50:20,001 --> 00:50:21,961
Speaker 4: smash you fucking head, and you want to fucking go, cunt,

1097
00:50:22,001 --> 00:50:25,281
Speaker 4: fucking want to go, motherfucker? How many breaths in that

1098
00:50:25,361 --> 00:50:26,401
Speaker 4: sentence did I take?

1099
00:50:26,961 --> 00:50:27,881
Speaker 1: None?

1100
00:50:28,521 --> 00:50:30,721
Speaker 4: So if I had no breaths in a ten second period,

1101
00:50:30,961 --> 00:50:33,281
Speaker 4: like I can see him, that means that his brain

1102
00:50:33,361 --> 00:50:36,481
Speaker 4: is now starving for oxygen, has brain powered being done now,

1103
00:50:36,641 --> 00:50:40,841
Speaker 4: his emotional control and consequence of actions has now decreased.

1104
00:50:41,281 --> 00:50:44,961
Speaker 4: It's how wives and husbands kill each other. They're fighting

1105
00:50:44,961 --> 00:50:47,001
Speaker 4: over the dishes. Fuck you do, fuck you? Next way

1106
00:50:47,041 --> 00:50:50,161
Speaker 4: she stabs them and then when her adrenaline comes down,

1107
00:50:50,281 --> 00:50:53,881
Speaker 4: you know she's like, but I loved him, but just

1108
00:50:53,881 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: because she's just heightened. And this is for everyone, right,

1109
00:50:56,681 --> 00:50:59,561
Speaker 4: So if you're having a conversation with someone and they're

1110
00:50:59,601 --> 00:51:02,481
Speaker 4: speaking so fast that you can see that in this

1111
00:51:02,521 --> 00:51:07,441
Speaker 4: ten second gap, they're no breaths, no inhales, make safe,

1112
00:51:07,921 --> 00:51:10,681
Speaker 4: No use arguing with someone that's not going to see

1113
00:51:10,761 --> 00:51:14,481
Speaker 4: those You need to try and get them to breathe,

1114
00:51:14,521 --> 00:51:17,841
Speaker 4: but you can't argue with it. You can't win it

1115
00:51:17,881 --> 00:51:22,721
Speaker 4: because they're not dealing with proper brain power because they're heightened.

1116
00:51:22,841 --> 00:51:25,361
Speaker 4: And you can do that just by understanding their breath.

1117
00:51:25,841 --> 00:51:27,921
Speaker 4: And people don't look at things like that, you know,

1118
00:51:28,041 --> 00:51:30,921
Speaker 4: like is he breathing? Then you look at another person

1119
00:51:30,961 --> 00:51:33,641
Speaker 4: that's in there. He's purging, his eyes are set and

1120
00:51:33,641 --> 00:51:35,801
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, bo, this dude's ready for warar Like

1121
00:51:35,881 --> 00:51:38,801
Speaker 4: he's psyching himself up. It's part of what we do

1122
00:51:38,801 --> 00:51:41,161
Speaker 4: for multiculture, you know. So multiculture we do the hocker

1123
00:51:41,521 --> 00:51:44,801
Speaker 4: and we're like, bom, that's all about prepping ourselves for war.

1124
00:51:45,481 --> 00:51:47,961
Speaker 4: We slap our arms and our body so bring the

1125
00:51:48,801 --> 00:51:51,441
Speaker 4: blood to the muscles so you bruise less. Do you

1126
00:51:51,481 --> 00:51:54,201
Speaker 4: know like these it's stretching and you're going to get

1127
00:51:54,201 --> 00:51:56,601
Speaker 4: the oxygen to your furthest parts of your lung. So

1128
00:51:57,241 --> 00:52:01,561
Speaker 4: having that understanding of breathing and working is so so

1129
00:52:01,761 --> 00:52:04,201
Speaker 4: relevant in our job, do you know what I mean?

1130
00:52:04,241 --> 00:52:08,481
Speaker 4: Because a lot of the time our officer is the

1131
00:52:08,521 --> 00:52:11,921
Speaker 4: one that's not breathing. I have a rule he goes

1132
00:52:12,321 --> 00:52:15,641
Speaker 4: if I'm talking. No one else is allowed to fucking speak,

1133
00:52:16,281 --> 00:52:18,201
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? Like at all, if

1134
00:52:18,241 --> 00:52:21,321
Speaker 4: I'm engaged with someone and you're coming over me, me,

1135
00:52:21,401 --> 00:52:24,001
Speaker 4: and you're going to have words after we deal with

1136
00:52:24,001 --> 00:52:27,121
Speaker 4: this altercation, this is But if you do start talking,

1137
00:52:27,121 --> 00:52:30,281
Speaker 4: because I have great years, I know that I'm getting

1138
00:52:30,281 --> 00:52:32,481
Speaker 4: heightened or I'm going around in a circle. So it's

1139
00:52:32,521 --> 00:52:34,481
Speaker 4: my turn to shut the fuck up, and I don't

1140
00:52:34,521 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: get to come back. Once he speaks, I'm now out.

1141
00:52:38,761 --> 00:52:44,161
Speaker 4: I'm now watching his footing his indicators because if he

1142
00:52:44,281 --> 00:52:45,401
Speaker 4: hits him, that's my fault.

1143
00:52:45,721 --> 00:52:48,001
Speaker 1: That's my job. Now. While I was talking to him,

1144
00:52:48,041 --> 00:52:50,281
Speaker 1: that was his job to watch his movements to make

1145
00:52:50,321 --> 00:52:53,121
Speaker 1: sure that he wasn't going to advance under me. That's

1146
00:52:53,161 --> 00:52:54,041
Speaker 1: how we work as a pair.

1147
00:52:54,121 --> 00:52:58,841
Speaker 4: We look after each other and we understand that we're

1148
00:52:58,841 --> 00:53:01,681
Speaker 4: all humans. We can all get frustrated, you know what

1149
00:53:01,761 --> 00:53:03,281
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, we can all get to that point

1150
00:53:03,281 --> 00:53:07,641
Speaker 4: where we might do something which ruins everything. Mister Doors,

1151
00:53:08,001 --> 00:53:10,281
Speaker 4: I miss it so much, but I hate it. I

1152
00:53:10,321 --> 00:53:16,241
Speaker 4: hate people, you know. I I loved it when I

1153
00:53:16,321 --> 00:53:18,881
Speaker 4: was young, when I was like form and I was

1154
00:53:18,921 --> 00:53:21,081
Speaker 4: feeling so good and I was I was I was

1155
00:53:21,081 --> 00:53:23,881
Speaker 4: going for like competitions or I was competing, and then

1156
00:53:24,041 --> 00:53:27,361
Speaker 4: let I was coming to work. And then I lived

1157
00:53:27,481 --> 00:53:30,481
Speaker 4: in a place called the Stables. We had five bedrooms

1158
00:53:30,601 --> 00:53:32,961
Speaker 4: and every single one of them wasn't a spying cage fighter.

1159
00:53:34,441 --> 00:53:34,721
Speaker 1: Man.

1160
00:53:36,241 --> 00:53:38,441
Speaker 4: During the week we're training with spirring, we're having like

1161
00:53:38,441 --> 00:53:40,921
Speaker 4: I'm going to beach every day every day to force

1162
00:53:40,961 --> 00:53:44,001
Speaker 4: some bomb, living this great life. And then on the

1163
00:53:44,041 --> 00:53:48,001
Speaker 4: weekends we were working, and then we'd have homework assignments

1164
00:53:48,041 --> 00:53:49,761
Speaker 4: about like what we're.

1165
00:53:49,641 --> 00:53:51,281
Speaker 1: Going to pull off. And the reason why I say

1166
00:53:51,321 --> 00:53:55,881
Speaker 1: it is as you manipulate the situation to do exactly

1167
00:53:56,521 --> 00:53:58,481
Speaker 1: the move, did you want? You know what I mean?

1168
00:53:58,481 --> 00:54:00,681
Speaker 1: So you have like homework.

1169
00:54:00,321 --> 00:54:04,081
Speaker 4: Assignments and things like that, And we would all work

1170
00:54:04,121 --> 00:54:06,561
Speaker 4: at different doors, and we'd send girls to each other

1171
00:54:06,721 --> 00:54:09,641
Speaker 4: and like had like special pass goes and having fun.

1172
00:54:09,721 --> 00:54:12,041
Speaker 4: And then we'd all meet up at like three o'clock,

1173
00:54:12,161 --> 00:54:15,081
Speaker 4: four o'clock in the morning at a club or whatever.

1174
00:54:15,361 --> 00:54:18,241
Speaker 4: And because we were hospitality, we were looked after.

1175
00:54:18,921 --> 00:54:22,961
Speaker 1: Man, I've I've rocked out about it being at like

1176
00:54:23,361 --> 00:54:25,681
Speaker 1: one o'clock, one o'clock in the afternoon. You know that

1177
00:54:25,721 --> 00:54:28,561
Speaker 1: we moved into the t Yeah.

1178
00:54:28,521 --> 00:54:32,081
Speaker 4: Like I like I, Yeah, it got to head like

1179
00:54:32,761 --> 00:54:37,481
Speaker 4: stagger home and I had a great time. But if

1180
00:54:37,521 --> 00:54:40,841
Speaker 4: I was honest, the honesters, I wish I had my

1181
00:54:40,961 --> 00:54:44,481
Speaker 4: kids earlier because I'm loving that part, you know what

1182
00:54:44,521 --> 00:54:45,761
Speaker 4: I mean, Like what I get to do with my

1183
00:54:45,881 --> 00:54:49,041
Speaker 4: boys and and and I wish I could have done it.

1184
00:54:49,161 --> 00:54:50,761
Speaker 4: I wish I wish we could have just done it

1185
00:54:50,801 --> 00:54:55,001
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, like I feel, but maybe I wouldn't

1186
00:54:55,201 --> 00:54:58,441
Speaker 4: be as good as dead, you know what I mean,

1187
00:54:58,441 --> 00:55:01,321
Speaker 4: Because at the moment, I'm really proud of the way

1188
00:55:01,361 --> 00:55:05,201
Speaker 4: that they they're growing, like they're see my boys body,

1189
00:55:05,361 --> 00:55:10,241
Speaker 4: he's a monster. Both hawk Hawks just turned twelve wets

1190
00:55:10,361 --> 00:55:14,481
Speaker 4: ninety seven kilos, got a size twelve men's shoe.

1191
00:55:14,801 --> 00:55:16,801
Speaker 1: Eats me out of house and home. But I think,

1192
00:55:16,881 --> 00:55:22,881
Speaker 1: are you gonna make me some money? Son? Any regrets? Um?

1193
00:55:25,641 --> 00:55:31,721
Speaker 4: I wasted so much money and so much time on nothing.

1194
00:55:33,001 --> 00:55:37,761
Speaker 4: Partying became blurred. Like I say, sometimes unless it's something

1195
00:55:37,841 --> 00:55:41,601
Speaker 4: really set it off. Those weekends, they all like match

1196
00:55:41,681 --> 00:55:44,201
Speaker 4: into each other and nothing really stands out, So it's

1197
00:55:44,241 --> 00:55:46,161
Speaker 4: not a good memory, do you know what I mean?

1198
00:55:46,161 --> 00:55:51,161
Speaker 4: Because it's nothing lasting. Where's and money? And I had

1199
00:55:51,201 --> 00:55:55,001
Speaker 4: money and time. Now I beg. I beg for one

1200
00:55:55,001 --> 00:55:55,921
Speaker 4: hour jiu jitsu time.

1201
00:55:56,001 --> 00:55:56,561
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

1202
00:55:56,601 --> 00:55:59,321
Speaker 4: Because jiu jitsu is at six thirty to eight. That's

1203
00:55:59,361 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: bad bathtime thinners. Like I got to do a leave

1204
00:56:02,481 --> 00:56:03,881
Speaker 4: app so I can go to jiu jitsu, you know

1205
00:56:03,921 --> 00:56:06,401
Speaker 4: what I mean? But I had free time where I

1206
00:56:06,441 --> 00:56:08,121
Speaker 4: could have studied or trained.

1207
00:56:08,361 --> 00:56:14,601
Speaker 1: I became an instructor for the immigration and all that

1208
00:56:14,681 --> 00:56:15,361
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, you know.

1209
00:56:15,441 --> 00:56:17,721
Speaker 4: And I did like defense tactics and all that kind

1210
00:56:17,721 --> 00:56:21,481
Speaker 4: of stuff. I used certificates that I hadn't from the army,

1211
00:56:21,921 --> 00:56:23,121
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean. I had all the

1212
00:56:23,441 --> 00:56:25,401
Speaker 4: I had all the skill sets to do this, But

1213
00:56:25,521 --> 00:56:27,841
Speaker 4: I just I was I.

1214
00:56:27,761 --> 00:56:30,721
Speaker 1: Was young, and I was puttying and having a great time.

1215
00:56:31,961 --> 00:56:33,921
Speaker 4: And also I tell people like I try and tell

1216
00:56:33,961 --> 00:56:38,241
Speaker 4: people some of my stories, and they don't think it's real, do.

1217
00:56:38,241 --> 00:56:41,521
Speaker 1: You know, Like they're so they're so crazy and they're

1218
00:56:41,601 --> 00:56:43,521
Speaker 1: so hard like I've seen.

1219
00:56:44,041 --> 00:56:45,241
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're allowed to say, but I

1220
00:56:45,281 --> 00:56:50,041
Speaker 4: have celebrities like and I mean real a class, this one,

1221
00:56:51,001 --> 00:56:54,281
Speaker 4: this one, you know, he was in the Gatsby anyway,

1222
00:56:54,281 --> 00:56:57,401
Speaker 4: he's high profile, and he was doing line in front

1223
00:56:57,401 --> 00:56:59,281
Speaker 4: of me, right and We're in the back of the

1224
00:56:59,281 --> 00:57:00,241
Speaker 4: area and I had my phone.

1225
00:57:00,281 --> 00:57:02,841
Speaker 1: I was saying, Oh, that's a million dollar photo. Do you

1226
00:57:02,921 --> 00:57:03,401
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1227
00:57:03,681 --> 00:57:06,961
Speaker 4: Right now, there's a million dollars. I didn't, but I

1228
00:57:07,001 --> 00:57:09,721
Speaker 4: was like, oh, just it's my team. It has to

1229
00:57:09,761 --> 00:57:11,321
Speaker 4: be like, hey, boys, I'll give you all ten grand

1230
00:57:11,361 --> 00:57:12,961
Speaker 4: if you keep this other body out away from me.

1231
00:57:13,041 --> 00:57:17,441
Speaker 1: Each let's get out, you know, in.

1232
00:57:18,921 --> 00:57:22,921
Speaker 4: Man, No, But I never breached anything like that, you know,

1233
00:57:22,961 --> 00:57:26,081
Speaker 4: I never did anything that would would jeffardize. But I

1234
00:57:26,121 --> 00:57:28,921
Speaker 4: was like, there's lots of moments like that. You you

1235
00:57:28,961 --> 00:57:34,521
Speaker 4: think you could just you're loyal for the wrong reasons.

1236
00:57:34,521 --> 00:57:36,561
Speaker 4: I think you know, you lord to the people for.

1237
00:57:36,481 --> 00:57:37,241
Speaker 1: The wrong reasons.

1238
00:57:37,281 --> 00:57:40,001
Speaker 4: You're I don't know what it is. I think it's

1239
00:57:40,001 --> 00:57:42,121
Speaker 4: because they feed you, you see, like you owe them.

1240
00:57:42,321 --> 00:57:44,001
Speaker 1: But it's it's.

1241
00:57:45,161 --> 00:57:49,041
Speaker 4: What I learned was this in huge companies that I

1242
00:57:49,161 --> 00:57:52,441
Speaker 4: these worldwide companies that I deal with. Now, nobody cares

1243
00:57:52,441 --> 00:57:55,241
Speaker 4: about you. You're a number, doesn't matter how good you are,

1244
00:57:55,241 --> 00:57:59,041
Speaker 4: how amazing you are. In an instant, they don't even

1245
00:57:59,081 --> 00:58:01,001
Speaker 4: care if the other person does a ship job, do

1246
00:58:01,241 --> 00:58:04,201
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So it doesn't matter about

1247
00:58:05,321 --> 00:58:08,601
Speaker 4: you and them. So you got to do everything right

1248
00:58:08,681 --> 00:58:11,081
Speaker 4: for yourself, do you know? And so you just you

1249
00:58:11,161 --> 00:58:13,601
Speaker 4: make your money, get your hustles on, and then and

1250
00:58:13,641 --> 00:58:18,001
Speaker 4: look after your family, you know. And I think what

1251
00:58:18,081 --> 00:58:21,521
Speaker 4: I should have done was set up my family when

1252
00:58:21,561 --> 00:58:23,241
Speaker 4: I was partying, you know what I mean, Like I

1253
00:58:23,601 --> 00:58:26,481
Speaker 4: should have had the mindset to like I was making

1254
00:58:26,561 --> 00:58:29,681
Speaker 4: so much money and just frivolous with it, like you.

1255
00:58:29,681 --> 00:58:30,801
Speaker 2: Never you don't think it's every good.

1256
00:58:31,281 --> 00:58:33,761
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, exactly exactly.

1257
00:58:34,641 --> 00:58:40,161
Speaker 4: You show young so stupid, just but I really really

1258
00:58:40,561 --> 00:58:44,321
Speaker 4: enjoyed it. I had a really great time. Even the

1259
00:58:44,361 --> 00:58:47,241
Speaker 4: memories I got scars and stuff were stables, messing the head,

1260
00:58:48,441 --> 00:58:55,081
Speaker 4: even those are pretty good memories. Describe yourself one with them.

1261
00:58:55,521 --> 00:59:02,481
Speaker 4: Protector family people. If I'm around, You're safe. I go

1262
00:59:02,561 --> 00:59:09,601
Speaker 4: everywhere and I watch people with motional outrageous things, and

1263
00:59:09,641 --> 00:59:13,001
Speaker 4: I can place myself there and I will make that

1264
00:59:13,081 --> 00:59:17,441
Speaker 4: whole situation decrease and the jails swear. I got to

1265
00:59:17,481 --> 00:59:22,921
Speaker 4: curse my curses wherever I am. It ain't like the

1266
00:59:22,961 --> 00:59:25,841
Speaker 4: next person opens this job door, I'm a fuck smells

1267
00:59:25,961 --> 00:59:28,681
Speaker 4: fu face, and I'll be like, please, baby Jesus, can

1268
00:59:28,721 --> 00:59:29,961
Speaker 4: I please open this door?

1269
00:59:30,321 --> 00:59:32,241
Speaker 1: And then I open the door and he sits on

1270
00:59:32,281 --> 00:59:34,921
Speaker 1: his bed, and I'm like, you promised me, you promise

1271
00:59:35,001 --> 00:59:35,441
Speaker 1: you didn't.

1272
00:59:36,881 --> 00:59:39,201
Speaker 4: I train more than most, I'm better than most, and

1273
00:59:39,241 --> 00:59:42,801
Speaker 4: I never get to do anything like ever like here,

1274
00:59:42,881 --> 00:59:44,561
Speaker 4: Oh it's going to kick off here okay, by place

1275
00:59:44,641 --> 00:59:47,521
Speaker 4: me there by sunshine and rainbows all day. It's just

1276
00:59:48,601 --> 00:59:52,441
Speaker 4: But it's also knowing that I don't have ego to

1277
00:59:52,521 --> 00:59:55,281
Speaker 4: want to have to prove myself, like like, I don't

1278
00:59:55,281 --> 00:59:58,321
Speaker 4: have to prove myself to anyone. A good day is

1279
00:59:58,321 --> 01:00:02,241
Speaker 4: the free money day, get paid, nothing happened, ah, free

1280
01:00:02,321 --> 01:00:02,961
Speaker 4: free money.

1281
01:00:02,961 --> 01:00:03,401
Speaker 1: I love it.

1282
01:00:03,641 --> 01:00:05,281
Speaker 4: I don't want to have to work for it. I

1283
01:00:05,321 --> 01:00:07,201
Speaker 4: want to have to do paperwork. I don't want to

1284
01:00:07,201 --> 01:00:09,201
Speaker 4: have to like stay late. I don't want have to

1285
01:00:09,241 --> 01:00:11,161
Speaker 4: do an investigation. No, I wanted to write up all

1286
01:00:11,161 --> 01:00:14,161
Speaker 4: my Oh it's just too much. I don't want any

1287
01:00:14,201 --> 01:00:16,961
Speaker 4: of that stuff. And so I got nothing to prove.

1288
01:00:18,601 --> 01:00:21,201
Speaker 4: But I do still like it, do you know what

1289
01:00:21,241 --> 01:00:21,521
Speaker 4: I mean?

1290
01:00:21,601 --> 01:00:21,841
Speaker 1: Like A.

1291
01:00:23,961 --> 01:00:27,201
Speaker 4: So I'm not I'm not trying to like show off

1292
01:00:27,641 --> 01:00:31,321
Speaker 4: or be the man or do anything like us. The

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Speaker 4: same thing that makes me extremely confident is the same

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Speaker 4: thing which keeps me extremely humble, which if anyone can

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Speaker 4: get knocked out. Do you know people are frail there

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Speaker 4: and without even using a weapon. And I add a weapon, Oh,

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Speaker 4: just double down. I want to say, thanks Gave, You're

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Speaker 4: the man.