Speaker 1: The Brisbane Lions, case of the mid season blues and
Speaker 1: untimely injury to boots our significance are the concerns for
Speaker 1: the reigning premier.
Speaker 2: The prodigal Sun returns to Wittenoble. Jamara Hugor Hagen Frontsi's teammates,
Speaker 2: says he looks to resume his footy career.
Speaker 1: And two of the great minds in coaching, having vastly
Speaker 1: differing seasons, Chris Scott and Ross lyin together at the desk.
Speaker 2: We've talked about his step into it, embrace all.
Speaker 1: Of it in the room and reason it's unedifying for
Speaker 1: a senior coach to do that. They're on the side
Speaker 1: of Courtia with the brain tape, the man on they
Speaker 1: played the best footy I've ever seen at the start
Speaker 1: of the season, and in said president left the couple
Speaker 1: older said, of.
Speaker 2: Course they do. Is the stuff that legends are made of.
Speaker 2: What is holding the ball?
Speaker 3: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
Speaker 3: that I can do something.
Speaker 2: Wrong, you know, and I need to gain and the
Speaker 2: board sectually.
Speaker 4: The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty
Speaker 4: year old.
Speaker 1: All the angles of round fourteen gazz these by rounds
Speaker 1: are O good.
Speaker 2: Yes, Jared, let's put this on the agenda or off
Speaker 2: the top King's Birthday game. Bang, that's it all, have
Speaker 2: a buy the following round. Your suggestion is trade window.
Speaker 2: Trade window opens, we go away, We let the trade
Speaker 2: nerds come in and they go do their stuff. We
Speaker 2: come back. Everyone's happy. A few new players have got
Speaker 2: to go, and away we go. That's it.
Speaker 1: Short of five weeks of buys is just too many.
Speaker 2: And when you've got teams that are struggling a bit,
Speaker 2: if you have a couple of games are a bit,
Speaker 2: ordering makes for an ordinary round. So let's just for sure.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it all right, here's what
Speaker 1: we've got lined up for you as we delve to
Speaker 1: the agenda. Ross Line and Chris Scott together at the
Speaker 1: desk is always great viewing for us. Let alone at home,
Speaker 1: then we hand over on the couch. Jack Revolts guides
Speaker 1: you through the how and the why of Round fourteen
Speaker 1: with Jordy Brownie and Bucks. Tomorrow Night our Players, Jesse
Speaker 1: Hogan joins players.
Speaker 2: Nights that Power Forward.
Speaker 1: Welcome Patrick Crips, Ray Chaman. We're given him a special
Speaker 1: project and some real overreaction and then Wednesday, Patrick Gainerfield
Speaker 1: ahead of game number three hundred and fifty and our
Speaker 1: coaches Simo and Horse, plus we'll have the teams for
Speaker 1: Frio and Essendon. Our mondays start with the awarding of
Speaker 1: the GVP's the most valuable players from the rounds. Any
Speaker 1: estimation of just one man, I will let him go
Speaker 1: for a little bit longer and then pressure that we
Speaker 1: might even go.
Speaker 2: You know, gas are about to put them up look
Speaker 2: away now.
Speaker 1: It's the most sought after prize in footy. We've had
Speaker 1: the privilege of being behind the wheel of the Ford
Speaker 1: Mustang GT Fastback, valued at ninety three thousand dollars, iconic design,
Speaker 1: unreal performance, five lead V eight engine. She goes well around.
Speaker 2: That Albert Park. Sure call those that are in contention,
Speaker 2: which are really still every player just lead a good
Speaker 2: hot streak that tickles my fancy. They're looking at me
Speaker 2: a bit differently. These players look with a bit of
Speaker 2: a wanting eye. One Bailey Smith could have gone. Max
Speaker 2: Ames went with Bailey Smith, thought he's outstanding. On the weekend.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Chris Gott about it. But being at
Speaker 2: the MCG to watch this bloke and his ability to
Speaker 2: cover ground was a sight to behold Jared and then Max.
Speaker 2: He probably started to touch better than Max. Max finished
Speaker 2: a touch better than him, but to see the two
Speaker 2: of them go was just modern day footy like you've
Speaker 2: not seen too often in terms of hard running. So
Speaker 2: he's his bull use is touch maligned. But I thought
Speaker 2: he had some really good moments from that point of view.
Speaker 2: So forty one touches puts him in the one vote
Speaker 2: slot when you go for these votes.
Speaker 1: Because my awards anywhere you like.
Speaker 2: Mitch Georgia already separated that game yesterday. So if he's
Speaker 2: on Melbourne's team, Melbourne probably win. He's on put Adelaide's team,
Speaker 2: he wins. I thought he was fantastic playing against you know,
Speaker 2: the may Leave a combination which is a premiership winning defense,
Speaker 2: and she had a lot of footy. He took ten
Speaker 2: kicked seven goals for Jared. He may have even bigger
Speaker 2: bag had he kicked the straighter. So he's got good connection,
Speaker 2: which she couldn't say the same for the mob that
Speaker 2: playing against. And he's had a big night. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was a big night out for him. Probably threatened
Speaker 1: it for a while. I wonder what it might grow
Speaker 1: into He's a.
Speaker 2: Talented player's no question about that. And you talk about talents.
Speaker 2: So Jesse Hogan again the opposition comes into it for me,
Speaker 2: it does. He got nine earlier in the year. I
Speaker 2: didn't give him any votes because it was the West
Speaker 2: Coast Eagles, but six against the running premier up at
Speaker 2: the Gabba with a pretty impressive running mate alongside him
Speaker 2: and Aaron Cadman who he spoke to Adam Kingsley Glass
Speaker 2: were a couple of weeks ago and said, yep, he
Speaker 2: said he's coming, Adam Cadman, and he did. But Jesse
Speaker 2: six goals, twelve marks. He kicked two on the first,
Speaker 2: he kicked one on the second, and then when the
Speaker 2: game needed to be there and they need to close
Speaker 2: the gap, he booted three in the third quarter. So's
Speaker 2: he's having an unbelievable couple of years, Jesse Hogan. And
Speaker 2: he gets the three and it.
Speaker 1: Had a couple of quiet weds, so I reckon he
Speaker 1: took them personally and just came roaring back the form.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what with him and Cadman alongside him.
Speaker 2: Then that's exciting.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's moved to second Jesse Hagen Toby,
Speaker 1: there's too much pressure, Patrick Dade. If it is our
Speaker 1: leader on nine votes, all right, let's get into the agenda.
Speaker 1: Jamara ugil Haagen made his way back to witten Oval
Speaker 1: today for the first time since he took personal leave
Speaker 1: in April. He's been through a period of private rehabilitation
Speaker 1: and then the fitness campaign that he's made public. Last week,
Speaker 1: he behind the scenes met with the key figures at
Speaker 1: the Western Bulldogs to clear the way for today, and
Speaker 1: then a big step he fronted the full meeting of
Speaker 1: players and staff. He was contrite and apologetic around some
Speaker 1: of his behavior in the past, and he committed himself
Speaker 1: to resuming his football career. I feel like all the
Speaker 1: way through, Gaz, you've had the most compassionate view on this.
Speaker 1: Don't give up and don't give up on him. Of
Speaker 1: that played out before us today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a good football club right now.
Speaker 2: I'm making a lot of good decisions, Jared. And the
Speaker 2: thing about this is that he comes back on the
Speaker 2: Western Bulldog's terms. That's the most important thing about all
Speaker 2: of this. You want to play. You come back to
Speaker 2: what he has had to come back to them, and
Speaker 2: you come back on our terms and now we'll see
Speaker 2: what it looks like from here. It's a long shot,
Speaker 2: and that would be what they're selling to him. You've
Speaker 2: got ground to make up. But I just love the
Speaker 2: fact that he's back there. I love a redemption story Jared.
Speaker 2: You know, and clearly he's been not at the professional level.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. I can go through history.
Speaker 2: I can go back through history in a time where
Speaker 2: players used to get away with stuff and he can't,
Speaker 2: and that's not such a bad thing. And it's all
Speaker 2: being played out in public and we know where he's at,
Speaker 2: and you know, everyone gets a pretty good road on
Speaker 2: some of his issues. So now, if you want to
Speaker 2: play footag you come back on our terms and you
Speaker 2: put one foot wrong, then you probably won't. But if
Speaker 2: you want to come back and you put your head down,
Speaker 2: you work your backside. When you win some trust and
Speaker 2: respect back, you know, six weeks time, four weeks time,
Speaker 2: you get a run the VFL, and that gives you
Speaker 2: six six weeks. And I'll tell you what, Jared. If
Speaker 2: he has a great six weeks in the VFL learning
Speaker 2: into a final series, you Behagen, Darcy and Norton, good luck,
Speaker 2: for the opposition. That's a big, big if.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the long shot, a four to six
Speaker 1: week block to get himself foot already, yep. And then
Speaker 1: if he survives all of that into the VFL program,
Speaker 1: it plays out on two fronts. One there is that
Speaker 1: he remains a Western Bulldogs contracted player next year. This
Speaker 1: is not the final year of his contract, so it's
Speaker 1: in both of their interests if he's committed to giving
Speaker 1: himself a chance is to go about that. And the
Speaker 1: other motivation for the Bulldogs is if he is going
Speaker 1: to request to trade at some point, is that there's
Speaker 1: too much scarring, too much, this happened over a long
Speaker 1: period of time. They don't want him to be a
Speaker 1: distressed asset that ends up being free to a good home.
Speaker 1: They want him to be a commodity that they'll be
Speaker 1: able to get something for if that is his desire
Speaker 1: long term. So they both have a key stake in this.
Speaker 1: And we'd be guessing if we forecast where it was
Speaker 1: going to end up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he may in the again guessing. So one
Speaker 2: of these two things will happen, is he'll get his
Speaker 2: sack together and stay at the Western Wodogs and hopefully
Speaker 2: have a really long and celebrated career, or in his
Speaker 2: own mind, he's going, well, I've got to get back
Speaker 2: and I've got to work hard and then get the
Speaker 2: other scenario on the table, which is where else can
Speaker 2: I go? And there'd be much more inclined to make
Speaker 2: a play for him if he can prove to him,
Speaker 2: himself and others for the next ten weeks that he
Speaker 2: can commit to footy. But as I said, there were
Speaker 2: a lot of people talking down there'll be a lot
Speaker 2: of those out there in the media just screaming from
Speaker 2: this go this is a great redemption story potentially in
Speaker 2: the making.
Speaker 1: Give yourself a chance, all right. So the on field
Speaker 1: from the weekend, the Brisbane Lions have struck a note
Speaker 1: of concern, having won two of their past six games.
Speaker 1: The last two have had a few familiar threads to it,
Speaker 1: and then Saturday added in the note of untimely injury.
Speaker 3: Pretty well, given the fact that it was a shortened
Speaker 3: pre season, we had a lot of surgeries and things
Speaker 3: like that. I'm sort of a little bit surprised or
Speaker 3: actually where we are at the moment.
Speaker 4: Working on stineyes gains on the mountain top.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't really know what our best foot
Speaker 3: is at this point in time. I mean, we were
Speaker 3: all probably judging us on how we played in the
Speaker 3: Grand Final last year, which was about as good as
Speaker 3: it gets.
Speaker 2: Not only behind, but the out of the falls.
Speaker 1: Bailey simply muss again. He fails the task.
Speaker 2: Private Claire and miss oh no and missed. They spooked them.
Speaker 2: They lost their heads and gave you no chance. They've
Speaker 2: lost their heads a lot of rezure twelve minutes from
Speaker 2: the Raining Champs.
Speaker 3: In terms of the last quarter ten shots to five. Yeah,
Speaker 3: more shots. We loose again, So that was a game
Speaker 3: we should have won in my view.
Speaker 2: Well, they'll be getting nervous now.
Speaker 4: Thinking sure we're not again.
Speaker 2: I just took off.
Speaker 4: It's time to be definitive about anything in footy at
Speaker 4: the moment.
Speaker 1: Good crowd, hush, you give him solemn to drifts.
Speaker 3: Wow, big minded, big moment.
Speaker 2: When you look at that scoreboard today, Lawns just haven't
Speaker 2: been able to take your chances.
Speaker 4: Their pressure was their second last for ten years.
Speaker 2: They laid twenty eight tackles. Only one team has laid
Speaker 2: few of the tackles than that in the last ten years.
Speaker 2: Once he hate tackles for a game.
Speaker 4: I think Chris Fagan will be thinking where did this
Speaker 4: come from?
Speaker 3: I mean, oh, lost us this year? The lost last week,
Speaker 3: more shots lost this week, more shots. We've lost four games,
Speaker 3: two of them we had more shots. It's bloody frustrating.
Speaker 3: But that's that's flyfe that's footy. That's just a problem.
Speaker 2: We got to work our way through.
Speaker 1: Of the past twenty four points, they have left fourteen
Speaker 1: on the table. It will be irritating. But how concerning
Speaker 1: is it's Friday night they are down the highway against Geelong.
Speaker 1: It actually might be precisely what they need. As you
Speaker 1: launch in gas, can I just the expected scores? So
Speaker 1: this is where just your systems check and so what
Speaker 1: has the inaccuracy cost them? On expected score they would
Speaker 1: have beaten Adelaide by thirty one points in the Giants
Speaker 1: by twenty eight, So I just put that in as
Speaker 1: the caveat as we pick apart, they would have lost
Speaker 1: their two games against North and Melbourne. They won the
Speaker 1: two in the middle and they've coughed up the past
Speaker 1: two through inaccuracy. To what degree do you hold concerns
Speaker 1: for the raining champs?
Speaker 2: So that comes into the narrative that they're just okay,
Speaker 2: but they're slightly off, and then I hear the twenty
Speaker 2: eight tackles worries me jured. So then my mind goes
Speaker 2: to actually interesting Round fourteen. Last year, they're thirteenth on
Speaker 2: the ladder. Yep, they're thirteenth on the ladder, six wings
Speaker 2: in a draw and they go on to win the premiership.
Speaker 2: So round third and this year the third nine wins,
Speaker 2: four losses and a drawer. Which one would you rather be? Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, would you rather be the third on the ladder?
Speaker 2: You'd think you stupid? But the reality is that the
Speaker 2: round fourteen of last year, the thirteenth position team, we'll
Speaker 2: bind they're about to go like this with a bullet.
Speaker 2: And what we've got here is the round thirteen team
Speaker 2: who were in third spot on the ladder but not
Speaker 2: quite going as well as what they'd like. So no one,
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone suggesting that this is derm and gloom,
Speaker 2: but it is instructional from a reigning premier point of view.
Speaker 2: At about this time of the year, when it gets hard.
Speaker 2: And when I say it gets hard, twenty eight tackles
Speaker 2: to me in a game says, yeah, last year. I
Speaker 2: don't think that happens when you're chasing and desperate for
Speaker 2: the victory of sorry for premiership, you're doing everything. So
Speaker 2: the Swans were ten and one eleven, they got the
Speaker 2: fourteen and one of the Swan's then they lost in
Speaker 2: round sixteen seven nineteen twenty and twenty one just gets hard.
Speaker 2: Melbourne way back they were ten zip then they lost
Speaker 2: around eleven, twelve, thirteen, seven, eight, nine, eint twenty one.
Speaker 2: So it's I believe, not having ever won a premiership.
Speaker 2: So I'm surmising is that all the things that you
Speaker 2: do in the quest to win one you just got
Speaker 2: to be a touch off to you and if somebody goes,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do the ice bath. I don't
Speaker 2: know this to be true. This is just my summation,
Speaker 2: and then you've got to gather yourself and as it
Speaker 2: gets closer, the smell of the finals comes and they
Speaker 2: go again. So I suspect that they're going to buckle in.
Speaker 2: And they've got a great man, that man right there
Speaker 2: between us who would know all of this, have these
Speaker 2: experiences at Hawthorne and his own experiences. Now that I
Speaker 2: would be backing them to get it right. But the
Speaker 2: bottom line is there's no Danaher and no Pain going
Speaker 2: into a new campaign. That makes it exponentially harder.
Speaker 1: I think, so how significant is the pain significant?
Speaker 2: Really significant? Because he allows the others to play in
Speaker 2: a certain way, He allows Harris Andrews to play in
Speaker 2: the way that Harris plays and lesser than is able
Speaker 2: to do what he does, and so I think it's
Speaker 2: a really big as soon as I was actually in
Speaker 2: the car drive in to the game when I heard that,
Speaker 2: and I think Bisbane line fans would be horrified to
Speaker 2: know that their lynch pin in the back half is out.
Speaker 2: And so Darcy Gardener is the obvious replacement, but he's
Speaker 2: not Jack Payne. So you think of some of the
Speaker 2: teams that they're going to confront in September, Collingwood, Big
Speaker 2: forwards at a mobile Geelong, three of them. You've got
Speaker 2: to pick maybe the Giants with Cabmin and Hogan. You
Speaker 2: need this boy.
Speaker 1: This is where some of his performs this season, and
Speaker 1: he's played with the sting if he wasn't part of it,
Speaker 1: so he's one of the driving forces for it, and
Speaker 1: he's having a stellar season up until this moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, those names there, which Darcy it's going to
Speaker 2: be another one you think will be in September. King's
Speaker 2: probably going to be in September, and now Harris has
Speaker 2: to go over. So Harris has to go and assume,
Speaker 2: so he can't be the drop off that he's been
Speaker 2: so good at doing in recent time. So no, this
Speaker 2: is going to be pretty heavily felt. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: about that. Those numbers I know exactly that.
Speaker 1: Look at those when it was all quantified, you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: we knew he was having a good season, but that's
Speaker 1: how good.
Speaker 2: So there'll be a.
Speaker 1: Slightly diminished version of what they were going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they will be, and now things can change. And
Speaker 2: this Harris Andrews is an outstanding footballer. He can play.
Speaker 2: He can play like Jack Paying just hasn't had to.
Speaker 2: So he's gonna have to. Thirty nine on Monday's. Age's
Speaker 2: lost three of them against the players that we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one note thirty two shots from fifty five entries,
Speaker 1: having taken fifteen marks inside fifteenth, Like, you don't lose
Speaker 1: that game. And so that's two weeks ago. Fakes thought
Speaker 1: they should have eaten Adelaide. It was a bad question,
Speaker 1: and he was responding to that we've only heard the answer,
Speaker 1: but you just expect that that is the formula for victory.
Speaker 2: So they get there's a touch that's.
Speaker 1: Missing to their game, but it might only be a touch.
Speaker 1: So they played along that they traded places on the weekend,
Speaker 1: second and third, and we know at the end of
Speaker 1: things how important second and third the difference there is.
Speaker 1: That's the new from home final if that's the way
Speaker 1: that it pans out. So Geelong move up to second,
Speaker 1: the Lions fall to third, and they meet rather perfectly
Speaker 1: on Friday night. You're on hand for this, and it
Speaker 1: was against a weakened team like impartial VFL team. What
Speaker 1: most struck you about the Cats and how lasting an impression?
Speaker 2: Well, there might pick at the moment and we can
Speaker 2: all change in Wax and Wane, but they just have
Speaker 2: got it all for me, and I get excited by
Speaker 2: watching a team play the sort of footy that they played.
Speaker 2: And this is not being deprecating to the essame thing.
Speaker 2: We're decimated doing our match outs before the game. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at that gown. Po Olaverde is going to go
Speaker 2: to one of three, whether it's near, whether it's Dangerfield
Speaker 2: or whether it's Cameron who gets the other ones, and
Speaker 2: that's how it turned out. But the way they went
Speaker 2: inside and the way they use each other, and then
Speaker 2: the manic pressure that they're smaller Moodi and forwards they
Speaker 2: wear it is a badge of honor Jared. And in
Speaker 2: the end these hit ups here as in Melbourne sort
Speaker 2: of that they make you cry is because they're able
Speaker 2: to complete plays and and you know this, these are
Speaker 2: on the back of Ford half turnovers too, so this
Speaker 2: is the double edged sword. They work so hard to
Speaker 2: win the ball back, but then they don't give it away.
Speaker 2: They make something of it. And this is just this
Speaker 2: is this is beautiful craft. And there's it's a Bailey
Speaker 2: Smith kick the just chips in the hole. This guy here,
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to speaking to Chris got about him.
Speaker 2: I think Shannon Neil may be the wild card going
Speaker 2: through to September because he's got everything. And then then
Speaker 2: that leisure Cameron who's who's winning the Coleman and another
Speaker 2: boake called Dangerfield is doing this sort of crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: When he gets going, mana goes nuts. You know. Closest
Speaker 2: I love close, I love Myers, I love, I love
Speaker 2: them all, and then then you go, okay, that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2: What about Bailey Smith and Max Olmes through the middle
Speaker 2: of the ground in the middle with both called tom Akins,
Speaker 2: who sits in the middle and just grunts his way
Speaker 2: through a game doing all the stuff that we you know,
Speaker 2: we go look at Holmes, go and look at it
Speaker 2: Smith go, But then go back and look in the
Speaker 2: middle and it happens at laid the tackle. So I
Speaker 2: love all that. And in the back half Jack Henry
Speaker 2: goes back and they're coding back blitz. It's pretty exciting Charity,
Speaker 2: it's exciting. They're complete to your eye, and they don't
Speaker 2: want for anything. In my eyes, see on Friday night,
Speaker 2: I can't come quick.
Speaker 1: And the benchmark team going inside fifty the best I reckon,
Speaker 1: and then that spins to the team. It will be
Speaker 1: the long term worst, which is Melbourne.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to spend much time on this
Speaker 2: because it's been there, it's been this way for a
Speaker 2: long time. But it is an absolute undeniable issue and
Speaker 2: it's got the two phases to it. I'm sure the
Speaker 2: couch Scoors will go. But I've done this ten times.
Speaker 2: You know, gone deep on A the kickers and then
Speaker 2: B what are you doing for to the ball? And
Speaker 2: if a Sava Radigalia just said, if you had walked
Speaker 2: into the Melbourne rooms and said, look, you wouldn't mind
Speaker 2: kicking it high in the air, would you? Because I'm
Speaker 2: not really good at ground level. I don't want to
Speaker 2: chase anyone a hard leave, but if you put it
Speaker 2: high in the air, Old Market. He took seven in
Speaker 2: the set marks in the first half. So don't think
Speaker 2: their forwards have got a lot of craft. They're just
Speaker 2: just arm in the air, run back towards goal sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. And we've been saying that for too long,
Speaker 2: so that's a knock. That's a knock on the on
Speaker 2: the coaching and the players to get this right because
Speaker 2: those numbers there have been there for a long time.
Speaker 2: And then conversely, take nothing away from Port Adelaide. They
Speaker 2: worked super hard and they had a system when they
Speaker 2: went forward and they completed the players that Melbourne couldn't.
Speaker 2: So it's a waste and you know they're destined for
Speaker 2: the bottom six for the next three years if they
Speaker 2: can't fix this, Jared, because you're you just you can't
Speaker 2: keep winning your inside fifty count time after time after
Speaker 2: time and not get reward for it. You'll stay in
Speaker 2: the bottom six unless you're fix it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so couldn't retain it and when they did, couldn't convert.
Speaker 2: It's it's not a good combination and it's not it's
Speaker 2: not something to laugh about. But in the end, is
Speaker 2: a Melbourne fan you do? All of melbourn fans have
Speaker 2: just throw their hands in the air and everyone all
Speaker 2: the review shows today are we saying the same damn thing.
Speaker 2: Can't fix it?
Speaker 1: It's an inescapable, truth to it. The other injuries not
Speaker 1: fully declared yet was the West Coast co captain Oscar Allen,
Speaker 1: which in the moment that had happened, had had that
Speaker 1: awful ping of an achilles to it and it was
Speaker 1: described as something else by the coach in the aftermath.
Speaker 4: When you see a player go down no contact off
Speaker 4: the ball like that, you think the worst. I think
Speaker 4: there's been a couple of cases of that this year.
Speaker 4: We're still going to work through the details exactly, but
Speaker 4: we're hopeful that it's not serious.
Speaker 1: There's a bit of mixed reports.
Speaker 2: Was it a car for a hammy?
Speaker 1: Are you sure?
Speaker 2: Which?
Speaker 4: No, I'm not exactly sure. It's not a car for
Speaker 4: a Hammy. I don't think it. I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 4: It might be Planet Fashire, is that right, belly or
Speaker 4: Plantaris right, So that's what we think at the moment.
Speaker 4: But we'll still work through the details and get a
Speaker 4: report early in the weekend and let you guys know.
Speaker 1: The Plantaris doctor Google. It could only be a week
Speaker 1: or it could be his season, or somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: And that is the awkward part for West Coast as
Speaker 1: to what the player does and what the club does
Speaker 1: is the club needs him to go as a high
Speaker 1: prized asset so that they get the right pickers compensation,
Speaker 1: and that appears to be the way that it's going.
Speaker 1: And this would have put a sick feeling through a
Speaker 1: whole lot of West Coast people who are probably banking
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look, I only assume it's no an Achilles
Speaker 2: because there was. An Achilles is no good. There's no
Speaker 2: reason why you wouldn't tell everyone it's an Achilles. So
Speaker 2: let's work on that basis that it's not, then it
Speaker 2: might be Plana Fascia or whatever else is the case.
Speaker 2: But it's a concern for sure. And as he's had
Speaker 2: a tough year Oscar Ellen, hasn't he in the position
Speaker 2: that he put himself in? And then he said some
Speaker 2: challenges and they rested him. And now you've got to
Speaker 2: deal with this as the captain of a club is
Speaker 2: really struggling. So and then the futures up in the
Speaker 2: air a little bit, and now what does impact? What
Speaker 2: impact does this have on those that are potentially looking
Speaker 2: at him as a as someone to fix their problems
Speaker 2: going forward? So now that throws up many more questions
Speaker 2: and answers. Or it there?
Speaker 1: Does it now that West Coast have had a look
Speaker 1: at what the worst case scenario could have looked like,
Speaker 1: does it add any weight to the argument that they
Speaker 1: all should call it quits now? West Coast protect their asset,
Speaker 1: also get his body right in play again in terms
Speaker 1: of knowing that he's not going to be there beyond
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want them to make that call yet.
Speaker 2: I don't think that would be the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: They have conversations with him, let's see what happens with
Speaker 2: the injury first. But my immediate reaction is the captain
Speaker 2: of the footy club's got to stand up and stand
Speaker 2: up and trying the group and say I'm going to
Speaker 2: rehab hard and try and get back or whatever the
Speaker 2: case may be.
Speaker 1: Let's bring into our coaches Chris Scott and Ross Line.
Speaker 1: It is a great pleasure when they are here together.
Speaker 2: At the desk.
Speaker 1: They are enduring different seasons. Things aren't quite coming together
Speaker 1: in the Saints for now, while the Cats are in
Speaker 1: the top two perennially in contention, Chris, the Rocks.
Speaker 2: So you've been Commyesar