1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: The Brisbane Lions, case of the mid season blues and 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: untimely injury to boots our significance are the concerns for 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: the reigning premier. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: The prodigal Sun returns to Wittenoble. Jamara Hugor Hagen Frontsi's teammates, 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: says he looks to resume his footy career. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: And two of the great minds in coaching, having vastly 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: differing seasons, Chris Scott and Ross lyin together at the desk. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: We've talked about his step into it, embrace all. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Of it in the room and reason it's unedifying for 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: a senior coach to do that. They're on the side 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: of Courtia with the brain tape, the man on they 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: played the best footy I've ever seen at the start 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: of the season, and in said president left the couple 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: older said, of. 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Course they do. Is the stuff that legends are made of. 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: What is holding the ball? 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: that I can do something. 19 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: Wrong, you know, and I need to gain and the 20 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: board sectually. 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: year old. 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: All the angles of round fourteen gazz these by rounds 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: are O good. 25 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Yes, Jared, let's put this on the agenda or off 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: the top King's Birthday game. Bang, that's it all, have 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: a buy the following round. Your suggestion is trade window. 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: Trade window opens, we go away, We let the trade 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: nerds come in and they go do their stuff. We 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: come back. Everyone's happy. A few new players have got 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: to go, and away we go. That's it. 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: Short of five weeks of buys is just too many. 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: And when you've got teams that are struggling a bit, 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: if you have a couple of games are a bit, 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: ordering makes for an ordinary round. So let's just for sure. 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it all right, here's what 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: we've got lined up for you as we delve to 38 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: the agenda. Ross Line and Chris Scott together at the 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: desk is always great viewing for us. Let alone at home, 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: then we hand over on the couch. Jack Revolts guides 41 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: you through the how and the why of Round fourteen 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: with Jordy Brownie and Bucks. Tomorrow Night our Players, Jesse 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Hogan joins players. 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: Nights that Power Forward. 45 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome Patrick Crips, Ray Chaman. We're given him a special 46 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: project and some real overreaction and then Wednesday, Patrick Gainerfield 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: ahead of game number three hundred and fifty and our 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: coaches Simo and Horse, plus we'll have the teams for 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Frio and Essendon. Our mondays start with the awarding of 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the GVP's the most valuable players from the rounds. Any 51 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: estimation of just one man, I will let him go 52 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: for a little bit longer and then pressure that we 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: might even go. 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: You know, gas are about to put them up look 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: away now. 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: It's the most sought after prize in footy. We've had 57 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: the privilege of being behind the wheel of the Ford 58 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Mustang GT Fastback, valued at ninety three thousand dollars, iconic design, 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: unreal performance, five lead V eight engine. She goes well around. 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: That Albert Park. Sure call those that are in contention, 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: which are really still every player just lead a good 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: hot streak that tickles my fancy. They're looking at me 63 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: a bit differently. These players look with a bit of 64 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: a wanting eye. One Bailey Smith could have gone. Max 65 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: Ames went with Bailey Smith, thought he's outstanding. On the weekend. 66 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Chris Gott about it. But being at 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: the MCG to watch this bloke and his ability to 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: cover ground was a sight to behold Jared and then Max. 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: He probably started to touch better than Max. Max finished 70 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: a touch better than him, but to see the two 71 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: of them go was just modern day footy like you've 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: not seen too often in terms of hard running. So 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: he's his bull use is touch maligned. But I thought 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: he had some really good moments from that point of view. 75 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: So forty one touches puts him in the one vote 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: slot when you go for these votes. 77 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: Because my awards anywhere you like. 78 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: Mitch Georgia already separated that game yesterday. So if he's 79 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: on Melbourne's team, Melbourne probably win. He's on put Adelaide's team, 80 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: he wins. I thought he was fantastic playing against you know, 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: the may Leave a combination which is a premiership winning defense, 82 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: and she had a lot of footy. He took ten 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: kicked seven goals for Jared. He may have even bigger 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: bag had he kicked the straighter. So he's got good connection, 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: which she couldn't say the same for the mob that 86 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: playing against. And he's had a big night. Yeah it was. 87 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: It was a big night out for him. Probably threatened 88 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: it for a while. I wonder what it might grow 89 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: into He's a. 90 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: Talented player's no question about that. And you talk about talents. 91 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: So Jesse Hogan again the opposition comes into it for me, 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: it does. He got nine earlier in the year. I 93 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: didn't give him any votes because it was the West 94 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: Coast Eagles, but six against the running premier up at 95 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: the Gabba with a pretty impressive running mate alongside him 96 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: and Aaron Cadman who he spoke to Adam Kingsley Glass 97 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: were a couple of weeks ago and said, yep, he 98 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: said he's coming, Adam Cadman, and he did. But Jesse 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: six goals, twelve marks. He kicked two on the first, 100 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: he kicked one on the second, and then when the 101 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: game needed to be there and they need to close 102 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: the gap, he booted three in the third quarter. So's 103 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: he's having an unbelievable couple of years, Jesse Hogan. And 104 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: he gets the three and it. 105 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: Had a couple of quiet weds, so I reckon he 106 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: took them personally and just came roaring back the form. 107 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what with him and Cadman alongside him. 108 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Then that's exciting. 109 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's moved to second Jesse Hagen Toby, 110 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: there's too much pressure, Patrick Dade. If it is our 111 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: leader on nine votes, all right, let's get into the agenda. 112 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Jamara ugil Haagen made his way back to witten Oval 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: today for the first time since he took personal leave 114 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: in April. He's been through a period of private rehabilitation 115 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: and then the fitness campaign that he's made public. Last week, 116 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: he behind the scenes met with the key figures at 117 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the Western Bulldogs to clear the way for today, and 118 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: then a big step he fronted the full meeting of 119 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: players and staff. He was contrite and apologetic around some 120 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: of his behavior in the past, and he committed himself 121 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: to resuming his football career. I feel like all the 122 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: way through, Gaz, you've had the most compassionate view on this. 123 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Don't give up and don't give up on him. Of 124 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: that played out before us today. 125 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a good football club right now. 126 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm making a lot of good decisions, Jared. And the 127 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: thing about this is that he comes back on the 128 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: Western Bulldog's terms. That's the most important thing about all 129 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: of this. You want to play. You come back to 130 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: what he has had to come back to them, and 131 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: you come back on our terms and now we'll see 132 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: what it looks like from here. It's a long shot, 133 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: and that would be what they're selling to him. You've 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: got ground to make up. But I just love the 135 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: fact that he's back there. I love a redemption story Jared. 136 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: You know, and clearly he's been not at the professional level. 137 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. I can go through history. 138 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: I can go back through history in a time where 139 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: players used to get away with stuff and he can't, 140 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: and that's not such a bad thing. And it's all 141 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: being played out in public and we know where he's at, 142 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: and you know, everyone gets a pretty good road on 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: some of his issues. So now, if you want to 144 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: play footag you come back on our terms and you 145 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: put one foot wrong, then you probably won't. But if 146 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: you want to come back and you put your head down, 147 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: you work your backside. When you win some trust and 148 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: respect back, you know, six weeks time, four weeks time, 149 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: you get a run the VFL, and that gives you 150 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: six six weeks. And I'll tell you what, Jared. If 151 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: he has a great six weeks in the VFL learning 152 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: into a final series, you Behagen, Darcy and Norton, good luck, 153 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: for the opposition. That's a big, big if. 154 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the long shot, a four to six 155 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: week block to get himself foot already, yep. And then 156 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: if he survives all of that into the VFL program, 157 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: it plays out on two fronts. One there is that 158 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: he remains a Western Bulldogs contracted player next year. This 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: is not the final year of his contract, so it's 160 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: in both of their interests if he's committed to giving 161 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: himself a chance is to go about that. And the 162 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: other motivation for the Bulldogs is if he is going 163 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: to request to trade at some point, is that there's 164 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: too much scarring, too much, this happened over a long 165 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: period of time. They don't want him to be a 166 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: distressed asset that ends up being free to a good home. 167 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: They want him to be a commodity that they'll be 168 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: able to get something for if that is his desire 169 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: long term. So they both have a key stake in this. 170 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: And we'd be guessing if we forecast where it was 171 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: going to end up. 172 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he may in the again guessing. So one 173 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: of these two things will happen, is he'll get his 174 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: sack together and stay at the Western Wodogs and hopefully 175 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: have a really long and celebrated career, or in his 176 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: own mind, he's going, well, I've got to get back 177 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: and I've got to work hard and then get the 178 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: other scenario on the table, which is where else can 179 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: I go? And there'd be much more inclined to make 180 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: a play for him if he can prove to him, 181 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: himself and others for the next ten weeks that he 182 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: can commit to footy. But as I said, there were 183 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people talking down there'll be a lot 184 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: of those out there in the media just screaming from 185 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: this go this is a great redemption story potentially in 186 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: the making. 187 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: Give yourself a chance, all right. So the on field 188 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: from the weekend, the Brisbane Lions have struck a note 189 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: of concern, having won two of their past six games. 190 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: The last two have had a few familiar threads to it, 191 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: and then Saturday added in the note of untimely injury. 192 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: Pretty well, given the fact that it was a shortened 193 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: pre season, we had a lot of surgeries and things 194 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 3: like that. I'm sort of a little bit surprised or 195 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: actually where we are at the moment. 196 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: Working on stineyes gains on the mountain top. 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: I mean I don't really know what our best foot 198 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: is at this point in time. I mean, we were 199 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: all probably judging us on how we played in the 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: Grand Final last year, which was about as good as 201 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: it gets. 202 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: Not only behind, but the out of the falls. 203 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Bailey simply muss again. He fails the task. 204 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: Private Claire and miss oh no and missed. They spooked them. 205 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: They lost their heads and gave you no chance. They've 206 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: lost their heads a lot of rezure twelve minutes from 207 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: the Raining Champs. 208 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 3: In terms of the last quarter ten shots to five. Yeah, 209 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 3: more shots. We loose again, So that was a game 210 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: we should have won in my view. 211 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: Well, they'll be getting nervous now. 212 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: Thinking sure we're not again. 213 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: I just took off. 214 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: It's time to be definitive about anything in footy at 215 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: the moment. 216 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Good crowd, hush, you give him solemn to drifts. 217 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: Wow, big minded, big moment. 218 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: When you look at that scoreboard today, Lawns just haven't 219 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: been able to take your chances. 220 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: Their pressure was their second last for ten years. 221 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: They laid twenty eight tackles. Only one team has laid 222 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: few of the tackles than that in the last ten years. 223 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: Once he hate tackles for a game. 224 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: I think Chris Fagan will be thinking where did this 225 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: come from? 226 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean, oh, lost us this year? The lost last week, 227 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: more shots lost this week, more shots. We've lost four games, 228 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,479 Speaker 3: two of them we had more shots. It's bloody frustrating. 229 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: But that's that's flyfe that's footy. That's just a problem. 230 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: We got to work our way through. 231 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Of the past twenty four points, they have left fourteen 232 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: on the table. It will be irritating. But how concerning 233 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: is it's Friday night they are down the highway against Geelong. 234 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: It actually might be precisely what they need. As you 235 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: launch in gas, can I just the expected scores? So 236 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: this is where just your systems check and so what 237 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: has the inaccuracy cost them? On expected score they would 238 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: have beaten Adelaide by thirty one points in the Giants 239 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: by twenty eight, So I just put that in as 240 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: the caveat as we pick apart, they would have lost 241 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: their two games against North and Melbourne. They won the 242 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: two in the middle and they've coughed up the past 243 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: two through inaccuracy. To what degree do you hold concerns 244 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: for the raining champs? 245 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: So that comes into the narrative that they're just okay, 246 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: but they're slightly off, and then I hear the twenty 247 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: eight tackles worries me jured. So then my mind goes 248 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: to actually interesting Round fourteen. Last year, they're thirteenth on 249 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: the ladder. Yep, they're thirteenth on the ladder, six wings 250 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: in a draw and they go on to win the premiership. 251 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: So round third and this year the third nine wins, 252 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: four losses and a drawer. Which one would you rather be? Yes, 253 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: you know, would you rather be the third on the ladder? 254 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: You'd think you stupid? But the reality is that the 255 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: round fourteen of last year, the thirteenth position team, we'll 256 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: bind they're about to go like this with a bullet. 257 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: And what we've got here is the round thirteen team 258 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: who were in third spot on the ladder but not 259 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: quite going as well as what they'd like. So no one, 260 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone suggesting that this is derm and gloom, 261 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: but it is instructional from a reigning premier point of view. 262 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: At about this time of the year, when it gets hard. 263 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: And when I say it gets hard, twenty eight tackles 264 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: to me in a game says, yeah, last year. I 265 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: don't think that happens when you're chasing and desperate for 266 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: the victory of sorry for premiership, you're doing everything. So 267 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: the Swans were ten and one eleven, they got the 268 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: fourteen and one of the Swan's then they lost in 269 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: round sixteen seven nineteen twenty and twenty one just gets hard. 270 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: Melbourne way back they were ten zip then they lost 271 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: around eleven, twelve, thirteen, seven, eight, nine, eint twenty one. 272 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: So it's I believe, not having ever won a premiership. 273 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: So I'm surmising is that all the things that you 274 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: do in the quest to win one you just got 275 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: to be a touch off to you and if somebody goes, 276 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do the ice bath. I don't 277 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: know this to be true. This is just my summation, 278 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: and then you've got to gather yourself and as it 279 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: gets closer, the smell of the finals comes and they 280 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: go again. So I suspect that they're going to buckle in. 281 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: And they've got a great man, that man right there 282 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: between us who would know all of this, have these 283 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: experiences at Hawthorne and his own experiences. Now that I 284 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: would be backing them to get it right. But the 285 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: bottom line is there's no Danaher and no Pain going 286 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: into a new campaign. That makes it exponentially harder. 287 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: I think, so how significant is the pain significant? 288 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: Really significant? Because he allows the others to play in 289 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: a certain way, He allows Harris Andrews to play in 290 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: the way that Harris plays and lesser than is able 291 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: to do what he does, and so I think it's 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: a really big as soon as I was actually in 293 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: the car drive in to the game when I heard that, 294 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: and I think Bisbane line fans would be horrified to 295 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: know that their lynch pin in the back half is out. 296 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 2: And so Darcy Gardener is the obvious replacement, but he's 297 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: not Jack Payne. So you think of some of the 298 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: teams that they're going to confront in September, Collingwood, Big 299 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: forwards at a mobile Geelong, three of them. You've got 300 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: to pick maybe the Giants with Cabmin and Hogan. You 301 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: need this boy. 302 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: This is where some of his performs this season, and 303 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: he's played with the sting if he wasn't part of it, 304 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: so he's one of the driving forces for it, and 305 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: he's having a stellar season up until this moment. 306 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, those names there, which Darcy it's going to 307 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: be another one you think will be in September. King's 308 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: probably going to be in September, and now Harris has 309 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: to go over. So Harris has to go and assume, 310 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: so he can't be the drop off that he's been 311 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: so good at doing in recent time. So no, this 312 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: is going to be pretty heavily felt. There's no doubt 313 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: about that. Those numbers I know exactly that. 314 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: Look at those when it was all quantified, you go, yeah, 315 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: we knew he was having a good season, but that's 316 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: how good. 317 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: So there'll be a. 318 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Slightly diminished version of what they were going to be. 319 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they will be, and now things can change. And 320 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: this Harris Andrews is an outstanding footballer. He can play. 321 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: He can play like Jack Paying just hasn't had to. 322 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: So he's gonna have to. Thirty nine on Monday's. Age's 323 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: lost three of them against the players that we're talking about. 324 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: Pretty good. 325 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one note thirty two shots from fifty five entries, 326 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: having taken fifteen marks inside fifteenth, Like, you don't lose 327 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: that game. And so that's two weeks ago. Fakes thought 328 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: they should have eaten Adelaide. It was a bad question, 329 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: and he was responding to that we've only heard the answer, 330 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: but you just expect that that is the formula for victory. 331 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: So they get there's a touch that's. 332 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Missing to their game, but it might only be a touch. 333 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: So they played along that they traded places on the weekend, 334 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: second and third, and we know at the end of 335 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: things how important second and third the difference there is. 336 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: That's the new from home final if that's the way 337 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: that it pans out. So Geelong move up to second, 338 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: the Lions fall to third, and they meet rather perfectly 339 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: on Friday night. You're on hand for this, and it 340 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: was against a weakened team like impartial VFL team. What 341 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: most struck you about the Cats and how lasting an impression? 342 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, there might pick at the moment and we can 343 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: all change in Wax and Wane, but they just have 344 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: got it all for me, and I get excited by 345 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: watching a team play the sort of footy that they played. 346 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: And this is not being deprecating to the essame thing. 347 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: We're decimated doing our match outs before the game. I'm 348 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: looking at that gown. Po Olaverde is going to go 349 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: to one of three, whether it's near, whether it's Dangerfield 350 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: or whether it's Cameron who gets the other ones, and 351 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: that's how it turned out. But the way they went 352 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: inside and the way they use each other, and then 353 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: the manic pressure that they're smaller Moodi and forwards they 354 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: wear it is a badge of honor Jared. And in 355 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: the end these hit ups here as in Melbourne sort 356 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: of that they make you cry is because they're able 357 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: to complete plays and and you know this, these are 358 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: on the back of Ford half turnovers too, so this 359 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: is the double edged sword. They work so hard to 360 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: win the ball back, but then they don't give it away. 361 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: They make something of it. And this is just this 362 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: is this is beautiful craft. And there's it's a Bailey 363 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: Smith kick the just chips in the hole. This guy here, 364 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to speaking to Chris got about him. 365 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: I think Shannon Neil may be the wild card going 366 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: through to September because he's got everything. And then then 367 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: that leisure Cameron who's who's winning the Coleman and another 368 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: boake called Dangerfield is doing this sort of crazy stuff. 369 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: When he gets going, mana goes nuts. You know. Closest 370 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: I love close, I love Myers, I love, I love 371 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: them all, and then then you go, okay, that's pretty exciting. 372 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: What about Bailey Smith and Max Olmes through the middle 373 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: of the ground in the middle with both called tom Akins, 374 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: who sits in the middle and just grunts his way 375 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: through a game doing all the stuff that we you know, 376 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: we go look at Holmes, go and look at it 377 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Smith go, But then go back and look in the 378 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: middle and it happens at laid the tackle. So I 379 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: love all that. And in the back half Jack Henry 380 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: goes back and they're coding back blitz. It's pretty exciting Charity, 381 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: it's exciting. They're complete to your eye, and they don't 382 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: want for anything. In my eyes, see on Friday night, 383 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: I can't come quick. 384 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: And the benchmark team going inside fifty the best I reckon, 385 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: and then that spins to the team. It will be 386 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: the long term worst, which is Melbourne. 387 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: But I'm not going to spend much time on this 388 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: because it's been there, it's been this way for a 389 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: long time. But it is an absolute undeniable issue and 390 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: it's got the two phases to it. I'm sure the 391 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: couch Scoors will go. But I've done this ten times. 392 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: You know, gone deep on A the kickers and then 393 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: B what are you doing for to the ball? And 394 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: if a Sava Radigalia just said, if you had walked 395 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: into the Melbourne rooms and said, look, you wouldn't mind 396 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: kicking it high in the air, would you? Because I'm 397 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: not really good at ground level. I don't want to 398 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: chase anyone a hard leave, but if you put it 399 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: high in the air, Old Market. He took seven in 400 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: the set marks in the first half. So don't think 401 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: their forwards have got a lot of craft. They're just 402 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: just arm in the air, run back towards goal sort 403 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: of stuff. And we've been saying that for too long, 404 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: so that's a knock. That's a knock on the on 405 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: the coaching and the players to get this right because 406 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: those numbers there have been there for a long time. 407 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: And then conversely, take nothing away from Port Adelaide. They 408 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: worked super hard and they had a system when they 409 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: went forward and they completed the players that Melbourne couldn't. 410 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: So it's a waste and you know they're destined for 411 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: the bottom six for the next three years if they 412 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: can't fix this, Jared, because you're you just you can't 413 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: keep winning your inside fifty count time after time after 414 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: time and not get reward for it. You'll stay in 415 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: the bottom six unless you're fix it. 416 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so couldn't retain it and when they did, couldn't convert. 417 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: It's it's not a good combination and it's not it's 418 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: not something to laugh about. But in the end, is 419 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: a Melbourne fan you do? All of melbourn fans have 420 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: just throw their hands in the air and everyone all 421 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: the review shows today are we saying the same damn thing. 422 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: Can't fix it? 423 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: It's an inescapable, truth to it. The other injuries not 424 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: fully declared yet was the West Coast co captain Oscar Allen, 425 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: which in the moment that had happened, had had that 426 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: awful ping of an achilles to it and it was 427 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: described as something else by the coach in the aftermath. 428 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: When you see a player go down no contact off 429 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: the ball like that, you think the worst. I think 430 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: there's been a couple of cases of that this year. 431 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 4: We're still going to work through the details exactly, but 432 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 4: we're hopeful that it's not serious. 433 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: There's a bit of mixed reports. 434 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: Was it a car for a hammy? 435 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: Are you sure? 436 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: Which? 437 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: No, I'm not exactly sure. It's not a car for 438 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: a Hammy. I don't think it. I'm not exactly sure. 439 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: It might be Planet Fashire, is that right, belly or 440 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: Plantaris right, So that's what we think at the moment. 441 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 4: But we'll still work through the details and get a 442 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: report early in the weekend and let you guys know. 443 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: The Plantaris doctor Google. It could only be a week 444 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: or it could be his season, or somewhere in between. 445 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: And that is the awkward part for West Coast as 446 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: to what the player does and what the club does 447 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: is the club needs him to go as a high 448 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: prized asset so that they get the right pickers compensation, 449 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: and that appears to be the way that it's going. 450 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: And this would have put a sick feeling through a 451 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: whole lot of West Coast people who are probably banking 452 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: on that. 453 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look, I only assume it's no an Achilles 454 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: because there was. An Achilles is no good. There's no 455 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: reason why you wouldn't tell everyone it's an Achilles. So 456 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: let's work on that basis that it's not, then it 457 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: might be Plana Fascia or whatever else is the case. 458 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: But it's a concern for sure. And as he's had 459 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: a tough year Oscar Ellen, hasn't he in the position 460 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: that he put himself in? And then he said some 461 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: challenges and they rested him. And now you've got to 462 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: deal with this as the captain of a club is 463 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: really struggling. So and then the futures up in the 464 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: air a little bit, and now what does impact? What 465 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: impact does this have on those that are potentially looking 466 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: at him as a as someone to fix their problems 467 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: going forward? So now that throws up many more questions 468 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: and answers. Or it there? 469 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: Does it now that West Coast have had a look 470 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: at what the worst case scenario could have looked like, 471 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: does it add any weight to the argument that they 472 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: all should call it quits now? West Coast protect their asset, 473 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: also get his body right in play again in terms 474 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: of knowing that he's not going to be there beyond 475 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: this year. 476 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: No, I don't want them to make that call yet. 477 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: I don't think that would be the right thing to do. 478 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: They have conversations with him, let's see what happens with 479 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: the injury first. But my immediate reaction is the captain 480 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: of the footy club's got to stand up and stand 481 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: up and trying the group and say I'm going to 482 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: rehab hard and try and get back or whatever the 483 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: case may be. 484 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: Let's bring into our coaches Chris Scott and Ross Line. 485 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: It is a great pleasure when they are here together. 486 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: At the desk. 487 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: They are enduring different seasons. Things aren't quite coming together 488 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: in the Saints for now, while the Cats are in 489 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: the top two perennially in contention, Chris, the Rocks. 490 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: So you've been Commyesar