1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whip with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Children. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: You have to nurture, you have to listen, you have 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 3: to approach them with arms wide open. That was just 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: a segue for me to get into a sting from Creed. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Everybody, and that's it. Thanks for the break and we're. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: Going to have James Bay on the show at seven 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: point thirty. 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 4: You are the best in the business. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Both enough Creed on the show. Do we thank you? 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: Oh no, We've had plenty. 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: So it's a little bit nerve wracking parent teaching because 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: you don't know, I mean your kids. They don't tell 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: you how they're going at school. This is the thing. 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: You can see their grades obviously, and you get their reports, 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: but you want to know how they're getting along. Are 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: they disrupting the class? What are they doing there? So 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: last night it's changed up at Hughey's High School because 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: now you've got to go and see every teacher with 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: two and a half hours, I said, I don't do 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: this stuff. I don't do it ain twenty four to ten. 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: What have you seen at a parent teacher night? Because 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: last night, being there for close to three hours opened 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: my eyes on We had to wait around quite a 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: bit for like the next teacher. 26 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 5: Oh you love that stuff. You're mad for the hurry 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: up and wait. In fact, I'm going to put it 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: out there. 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 4: Fits. You're the most patient man I've ever met. 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: Extraordinary patience. I'm never frustrated. 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: Well, one of them was forty minutes between eh I 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: said the bea. I said, I'm going I'm going to 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: go across the road at the shopping said I'm going 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: to get a coffee. I'm out of here. I'm not 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: hanging around waiting. 36 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: For my child and my family. 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: Do you know what, Well, this is the moment, Kate, 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: that I realized that, you know, you've got to be 39 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: a little bit more accepting of your children, because you 40 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: were just as impatient as your child was. And I 41 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: looked around last night and there was one mom was 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: crying an in a parent teacher interview. And I'm thinking, okay, well, 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: where all right, hue was Huey gets a lot of 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: he gets a lot of he's at a group, he's 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: at a table of boys who like to talk and 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: they like to muck around a bit. But do you 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: know what we got, Kate, which you sort of there's 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of a fist pump there, the teacher 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: always said. But you know, if I can tell, if 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: I tell Huie to stop it, he's usually pretty good. 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: And if I move him to another table, he's always 52 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: prepared to put his hand up because he knows he's 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: not concentrating, and he will go somewhere else. 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: Okay, well that's good. 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: We even had one teacher go, look, the table that 56 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: Hue's at is disruptive, but your child is not the 57 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: one that I'm worried about. And I looked at Paja. 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: Yes, we're out of here. Do you know I can't 59 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: understand this modern day wage teacher that what if you're 60 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: seeing five or six teachers depending on the subject, amount 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: can't throw it into the old chat GPT and AI 62 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: can spit out a conclusion. Oh so you don't need 63 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: to sit face to face with him, and fits you 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: get an email where it's really just summarizing everybody's feedback 65 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: and into one sentence. 66 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: I would rather attend. 67 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 5: I'm a bit of a like detailed hard copy person, 68 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: you know, So don't send me another email because I 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: may not get to it, and then I won't find 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 5: it in the file, and then I'll have to pretend 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 5: I've seen it. If I've given a time and I 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: go and I'm face to face, I know that box 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 5: is tipped. 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: See my parents took it as though, here's my chance 75 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: to have a go at the teacher. Based on the 76 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: feedback I'd. 77 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: Given that they must have loved your. 78 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: Shows, especially the sports teacher that used to pick on 79 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: me for being hairy. So take off your shirt, your 80 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: big ape, and show us what you can do on 81 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: the on the dumbbell. 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: You obviously made his life hell as well, so. 83 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: Say that, come here, you're big sweet tringer, that tree swinger, 84 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: sweet tringer. What's a sweet sweet sweet trimmersh mat in. 85 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: The kitchen for the old potato peel? 86 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: Would I'm out from the cupboard? 87 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 6: Do you know what? 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: There was a funny moment last night. I'm mates with 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: one of the dads, right, there was a funny moment 90 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: where I was watching him through the glass with one 91 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: of the teachers, and he could not concentrate himself, so 92 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: every time. 93 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: The teacher was talking, he would be. 94 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: Looking around to see if he knew anybody. 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: He wasn't even listening to the teacher. 96 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: And I'm going, what is it? 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: What chance does the kid have. 98 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: I said to him afterwards, what chance does the kid 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: have when you can't even listen to the teacher? 100 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 5: And I think that's what a lot of the teachers 101 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 5: get out of the parent teacher is that if they 102 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 5: are having an issue with a particular student to time, 103 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 5: they then have the parents sitting in front of them, 104 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 5: and in their mind they're thinking, well, his kid's got 105 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 5: no hope. 106 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Thurteen twenty four to ten. 107 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: What did you see at the parent teacher interview? I? 108 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: Amy and glenmore part? What happened? Eames? 109 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 7: Hello? My son was in Hindi and they had I'd 110 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 7: love to say the experiment where they watched the ducks 111 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 7: grow up and they had them in the class. They 112 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 7: got five minutes patting their duck and my son's duck 113 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 7: went to heaven. 114 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 5: He squeezed it today. 115 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: Ye see, that's quite beautiful, isn't it. 116 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 7: But I'm actually also working a school and I've seen 117 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 7: the other side of parents. 118 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: How do you How do you deal with them? Who 119 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: are your favorites to deal with? 120 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 7: Honestly? 121 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 6: Like, I actually love the cryers? 122 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: Do you? 123 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 7: We do get criers? I just think it means they 124 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 7: actually care. The ones that sit there and look around 125 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 7: like you can tell where their kids get it from? 126 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: Right? Well? 127 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: Amy, Amy, can I also say as well, because they 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: you get a lot of parents that are defensive and 129 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 3: they like to blame you. Do you have any exercises 130 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: that you have at parents tea to night where you 131 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 3: just take a deep breath or do you circle something 132 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: kind of piece of paper or what do you do 133 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: just to calm down? 134 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 7: We always pretend to write. 135 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: Doesn't even have any internet. 136 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to buy a pencil. 137 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: What do you write it down? 138 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 8: Okay? 139 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: Well, okay Vanessa in Southerland? What did you see that 140 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: the parent teacher not? 141 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 8: I saw a father on his phone, like he's just 142 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 8: so not interested adding phone, they're watching your footing. I 143 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 8: had a bit of a giggle just you know, but 144 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 8: totally tuned out as to what the teacher was saying, 145 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 8: you know, just following his team and realegally enjoying. 146 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have had a bed on Vanessa, you 147 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 148 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, you never know. But I just wanted 149 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 8: to add just in terms of like how complicated it 150 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 8: is to even booking a parent teacher interview, you know, 151 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 8: having to go into an app lock it in and 152 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 8: then trying to find when you get there on the night. 153 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, what order have I got? Trying to 154 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 8: remember the time just really confusing. Tell me to be 155 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 8: and you know, lock out an hour, let's do it. 156 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of that. It was confusing, 157 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: but but do you know what, there was a lot 158 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: of parents that didn't even rock up. The other thing 159 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: that we do have to stress here is I recommend 160 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: teachers like the patients that you need to have for 161 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: that job. It is a tough, tough job. We even 162 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: spoke to a teacher last night. He's only had Huey 163 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: for like four weeks, and he was like, and he 164 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: was so lovely. He's going, oh, I don't really don't 165 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: really know your son too will yet, but I've only 166 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: had this class for four weeks. 167 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: Do you have the option two fits of still doing 168 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: it on zoom? No, we do. We don't go to 169 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: the school, We don't bother. You can do it or 170 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: do it on zoom. 171 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: That's not bad, Alison and Norell And you're a teacher, 172 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: what did you see, Alison. 173 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: So we've had a number of different things happen, and 174 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: the last one or the worst one I saw was 175 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: a student had had such a bad evening with parent 176 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: interviews that his parents walked out and left him at school. 177 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 5: Oh no, it wasn't a boarding school. 178 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: It was just a normal no, no, no, no, normal school. 179 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: He was seeing a student, So yeah, sixteen to eighteen. 180 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, he got left behind and they did not 181 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: come back and get him here. He had to go 182 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: and catch a train to get home or. 183 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: Abandoned. 184 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: And I look, I know it's hard for parents because 185 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 5: that sometimes they are pulling their hair out thinking I 186 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: just don't. I'm like, the tank is. 187 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: Empty, you can't get through it. 188 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: What more can I do? But like, sometimes those kids 189 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 5: they need you more. 190 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: We'll see. We've done it with time a couple of 191 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: times at listener events where we've just left him there 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: and to find his home. 193 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: That's true Christmas party. 194 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: I don't blame you, guys, Amy Merrickville, what went down 195 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: at the parent teacher interview? 196 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 6: So it wasn't me, but one of my good friends 197 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: is a teacher and she'd been seeing a guy who 198 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 6: wasn't serious but on the dating app they'd gone on 199 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 6: a few dates and she wasn't sure of his last name. Yet, 200 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 6: but the the parents rocked up for one of the 201 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 6: kids and it was her date with his wife. 202 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: You little beauty, I'd pay to be there. There's a 203 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: TV show and that Amy. What happened him? 204 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: Do you know? 205 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: Did he take off or did they just play straight back? 206 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 6: He was He was very, very awkward and very sheepish. 207 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 6: She was professional and just got on with it. And 208 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: clearly they unmatched as soon as they left the She 209 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 6: unmatched him as soon as they. 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: Left them, going on in a badly timed teacher interview, 211 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: badly time. 212 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: It's not about the interview. 213 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: Sorry, other levels to this story. 214 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: You've got detention. On Saturday, young Man Sits in Whipper 215 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast to walk great 216 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: shows like this. 217 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: Download the Nova Player via the App Store or Google 218 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: Play the Nova player