WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 25 January 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:07.240 Why On Sky News Australia. This is Denika the Georgio. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:11.480 Hello and welcome to the show now at the brand 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.560 new time of seven pm every Sunday. Coming up tonight, 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.920 a Sydney counselor compares Australia Day to the Holocaust and 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.079 claimed supporters of January twenty six might start another genocide. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.960 I'll get reaction from Warren Mundine. Liberal MP Andrew Hasty 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.479 set to challenge Susan Lee for the leadership as the 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:32.960 coalition remains at odds. LMPMP Garth Hamilton is coming up. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.000 The Prime Minister announces Australia's new ambassador to the United States. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.720 See ya later, Kevin Rudd. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.199 And what did Donald Trump say to offend military veterans 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.480 around the world. I'll get reaction from retired Australian Army 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.720 Major General Mick Ryan. But first tonight, Susan Lee's days 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.760 are numbered as opposition leader. It seems increasingly likely she'll 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.720 be rolled a week from Tuesday when the Liberal Party 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:57.560 room meets. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:58.080 Now. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.720 Liberal MP Andrew Hasty has begun preparing a challenge and 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.920 intends to stand for the leadership if a spill is 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.240 called at that meeting. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:07.479 On February third. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.440 Though, this is hinging on whether or not Shadow Defense 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.600 Minister Angus Taylor can demonstrate support for himself to take 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.680 the role. But look, there's no doubt the time has come. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.959 Susan Lee has had a great summer. She held the 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.440 Prime Minister to account after the Bondai massacre. She's been 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.000 strong on radical Islam. She pushed Anthony Alberaneesi of course 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.679 daily to call a royal commission and eventually he was dragged, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.880 kicking and screaming into doing so. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.479 So how did it all fall apart? Well? 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.000 This week in Parliament has been a monumental disaster thanks 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.360 to the divide over hate speech laws. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.280 Three Nationals of course quit. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.440 Susan Lee didn't have a choice but to accept their resignations. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.560 But where was the joint party room meeting? I mean 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.600 this seriously. All could have been prevented. This would have 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.840 been a real prime opportunity for the Liberal Party to 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.640 take a stand, reject the hate speech laws and be 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.680 the party of free speech. But that alternative government that 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:11.560 conservative voters are crying out for is not there now. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.320 Now these laws will decide what does and does not 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:15.840 constitute hate speech. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.960 It's utter madness, and. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.280 Anthony Aarbernezi has gone from having a shaker of a 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.240 summer to sitting on the sidelines laughing because the pressure 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.600 is off him. He sought to divide the coalition through 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:32.760 rushed legislation, and his wedge succeeded. The coalition is split. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.320 The Nationals have said see you later. The Liberals are 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.400 going solo. Susan Lee is all at sea. A new 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.000 Liberal leader appears to be in the mix, and by 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.040 all accounts, there's no way the coalition can rejoin under 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.960 Susan Lee. National's leader David Little Proud this morning refused 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.800 to deny that he told her to resign as the 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:52.960 coalition broke up. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.840 You want Susan Lea to go, But you told Susan 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.360 Lea to resign in that phone call, didn't you? Didn't you? 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.440 Andrew this, I'm not going to get into your your gossip. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.080 What I'm talking about is well, you can deny it 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:14.760 is this, Andrew. You can deny that you know it's true. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:19.320 To dignify, Andrew, I'm not going to dignify I get 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.120 into into your gossip. You want to deal in gossip, I'm. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:23.200 Going to do gossip. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.720 It's you're said to her, and you're not denying it, 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:26.800 David Little Proud. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:29.040 It's a mess, isn't it. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.240 The coalition is split at a time when we so 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.280 desperately need unity in the wake of Bondai, at a 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.560 time when this country needs strong leadership, because we certainly 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.160 don't have that from the Prime Minister, and we certainly 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.680 don't have that from a divorced alternative government. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.400 Now, wonder one Nation is now more. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.320 Popular than ever so across work roads for the Liberals 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.320 and Nationals. As Simon Benson writes in The Australian Today, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.160 this existential moment has now arrived. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.560 For the Liberal Party and the Nationals. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.000 Both are terrified by the threat of One Nation's populism, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:01.840 but are equally devoid. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.000 Of a strategy to counter it. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.760 No one appears to have asked the question, how do 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.400 three competing parties on the right all survive? 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.920 The answer is they can't. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.800 Look, that's an interesting point, because this divorce will only 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.560 seek to bolster Pauling Hanson further and keep an already 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:23.560 power hungry Anthony Albanesi power hungry even longer. So where 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.680 to even start, Well, right now, there's no alternative from 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.240 the Liberals. A new leader, one who is strong and conservative, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.279 is the best start they can get because moderates cannot 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.800 win government, and already it seems the prospect of an 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.680 Andrew Hasty or an Angus Taylor in charge is worrying labor. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.359 Here was Murray Watt on Sky News this morning. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.799 But it's not as if the Liberals have good choices 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.479 to make either the most extreme leader they've ever had 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.159 or a bumbling shadow treasure or I wanted to lift taxes. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.800 Well, this is straight out of the lefts playbook, isn't it. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:00.320 I mean the progress left. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.920 They love to label anyone who disagrees with their point 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.320 of view as extreme, when the issues at hand are 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:10.360 actually mainstream. And Murray what was pushed by political editor 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.440 Andrew Cleanel on what exactly he meant? 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.720 Why are you calling Andrew Hasty extreme? 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.039 He has started and tried to lead this debate within 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.719 the Liberal Party to follow one Nation to the right 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.040 on matters like migration and other things as well. I mean, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.800 if people are looking for one nation policies, they'll vote 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:33.160 for one nation. They don't need a one nation pretender 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.840 in disguise in the form of Andrew Hasty, A. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:42.200 One nation pretender in disguise. Why because Andrew Hasty supports 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.839 migration cuts, is worried about social cohesion, is worried about 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.600 radical Islam and how we counter that? Again, all very 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.560 mainstream views are nothing big and bad or scary about it? 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:55.800 And Murray, what didn't stop there? 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.800 So is mister Hasty extreme? I mean you've called him 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.200 mix stre what's extreme about it? I mean a lot 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.640 of people would like to see this migration. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.599 And that's exactly what our government has done. Our government 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.839 has brought down net overseas migration. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.320 But what's extreme about Andrew Hasty? Can you just qualify 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:17.040 this statement? 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.240 I mean everyone understands that our migration level needed to 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.400 come down in Australia and that's what the government has done, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.480 but we haven't done it in a way that demonized 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.479 as migrants. I mean remember Andrew's Hasty's comments about being 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.160 strangers in our own country, the sort of comments that 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.520 we've seen from far right elements in the UK. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.839 Well, the comments strangers in our own country were actually 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.880 echoed only last year by this UK leader. 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.520 Now in a diverse nation like ours, and I celebrate 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:55.240 that these rules become even more important without them we 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.960 were becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.080 walks forward together, is Murray? 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.159 What's suggesting Keir Starmer, one of the most woke left 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.880 socialist leaders in the world and that Britain has ever seen, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.160 is part of the far right element in which he 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.880 refers to please. When I watch the vision of two 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.160 gunmen allegedly committing murder in the name of jihad in Bondai, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.920 I too felt like a stranger in my own country. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.840 News flash, Murray, it doesn't make me extreme or far right, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.760 though I wonder where my statements would sit in the 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.640 eyes of the law under Labour's new. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.000 Hate speech laws. But I digress. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.800 But these terms extreme and far right are part of 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.400 the left's manifesto. I mean, Labor doesn't want to address 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.640 these issues that you're worried about, the ones that the 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.240 next conservative leader needs to. The majority of ossies want 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.800 immigration cuts and better checks and balances. Just seventeen percent 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.960 believes social cohesion in Australia is high, thirty six percent 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.040 believe it's low, and thirty eight percent say moderate. Yet 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.280 the Prime Minister went as far today as to accuse 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.960 the former coalition of mirroring one nation. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:10.160 WO has seen them adopt one nation policies and shift 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.320 to the right. And the problem here is that what 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.880 that is doing is legitimizing the hard right policies that 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:22.320 One Nation advocate for. You can't fight one nation by 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.760 being a lighter version of them. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.120 Given that one Nation is on the rise and is 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.120 more popular than ever, does he seriously think that's an insult? 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.079 I mean he clearly has not grasped the mood of 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.720 the nation. Pauline Hansen is a big winner of the 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.120 summer more and more Ozzi is a resonating with her 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.160 and her policies. At that the Albaneze was then asked 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.079 whether he would start treating One Nation as the real opposition. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.680 What we point out, David, and will continue to do so, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.200 is the damage that one nation policies would due to 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:57.800 our national unity. That the politics of just identifying grievance 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.679 and not coming up with solutions is a cul de 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.439 sac that doesn't lead the country anywhere. 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.240 Well, Labour's going to have to come up with something 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.280 better than that. In the latest News poll, the Liberals 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.000 at a national level are now in third place. That's 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.080 a minor party status. But One Nation has recorded a 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.680 historically high level of support at twenty two percent in 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.600 their primary vote. Now, look, I don't care about the 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.520 internal politics of the Liberal Party, but I do care 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.720 about this country, where it's heading and what it means 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.839 for future generations and who will leader it. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.080 And as I said, moderates can't win government. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.840 Our future hinges on a strong opposition to take Australia 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.640 forward with guts. None of this wishy washy half in, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.600 half out, don't know what we. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.319 Stand for and where we are nonsense. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.480 The Moderates or the tills really of the Liberals have 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.160 a lot to answer for. But what a blight on 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:56.160 conservative politics to have the right split and what a shame. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.199 For Conservative voters. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.920 And I do hope with a new leader the Liberal 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.560 Party can get back to its roots that Robert Menzie 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.120 has made a mandate of and they can't govern without 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:06.760 the Nationals. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.640 So for the sake of this country, get a move on. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.880 Well, it's one of my favorite days of the year tomorrow, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:17.760 Australia Day. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.480 And there's nothing like an Aussie Day. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.560 Barbie flags flying, really showing off your pride. And for me, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.760 I'm really grateful that my grandparents migrated here from Italy 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.520 after World War II for a better life. And look, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.079 there is so much to be proud of in this country. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.120 How lucky we are that we get to wake up 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.200 tomorrow in a country, not in a war zone, not 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:38.400 in the Third World. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.240 But in a free country. I mean, we're not out. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.480 There protesting in the streets like they are in Iran, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.360 for example, where they're fighting for freedom, because we enjoy 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.480 our freedoms. But I will say it does feel different 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.559 this year. We are more divided than ever after more 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.840 than two years of fracturing social cohesion, anti Semitic attacks, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.880 flags of terror groups being waived, and you know the list, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.720 and of course it culminated in the biggest terror attack 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.000 on our soil at Bondai. We're threatened by radical Islam, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.520 a term the Prime Minister shut as it's saying, and 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.920 his solutions are a gun buyback scheme and hate speech laws. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.319 We aren't exactly the best we can be right now. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.239 But it also of course doesn't help that Anthony Albanesi 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.880 insists on standing in front of three flags. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:25.920 But this is why, more. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.679 Than ever we need to unite and show our pride 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.040 in Australia. The time is now to stand up for 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.080 our values, to stand up for this country, to stand 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:38.280 up for Australians, to put Australians first and reclaim our 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:39.080 national day. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.199 And I'm not alone in saying this. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:45.199 New polling out on the eve reveals an overwhelming majority 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.960 of voters say they are proud to be Australian and 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.400 want a national day to celebrate our country. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:51.720 Seven out of ten. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.600 Voters back keeping Australia Day on January twenty six. Eighty 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.360 seven percent believe it's important that there be an annual 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.520 date to celebrate Eighty eight percent said that they were 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.719 proud to be Australian, and the data also reveals that 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:09.280 being truly Australian is now defined by character and contribution 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.359 rather than birthright. That's seventy four percent who are prioritizing 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:18.000 respect for national values over citizenship. And despite the majority 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.280 of us saying enough is enough. We love our country, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.840 we want to celebrate it. The I Hate Australia brigade 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.600 is at it again. Invasion Day rallies are taking place 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.120 across the country tomorrow. Over in Melbourne, there'll even be 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.120 a day of mourning Invasion Day dawn service. Would you 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.199 believe I mean ournt dawn service as a mark of 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.560 respect for our ANNs acts and now too they have 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.520 been hijacked. And the problem with these rallies is they've 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.120 become a cess pit for every issue the Left goes after. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.120 But have a look at this. According to Western Sydney 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:56.600 Independent Cumberland councilor Ahmed UF, Australia Day is like the Holocaust. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.400 The Australian Holocaust began on twenty six of January seventeen 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.760 eighty eight. At that time, Australia was home to around 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.800 one million Aboriginal people. These were stable societies that lived 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:17.280 for tens of thousands of years. What followed was catastrophic massacres, genocide, 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:23.040 forced removals, ethnic cleansing, introduced disease, the destruction of land, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.520 food systems, families and culture. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:27.920 Yeah, I forget Rhodes rates and rubbish. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.080 If local councils aren't preaching genocide, then goodness me, what 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.560 else will they have to do to fill up their. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:34.880 Day on the taxpayer dime? 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.120 And if you look closely in that video, he's actually 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.920 standing on a patch of grass in a park that 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.079 that clearly needs some help. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.080 But Ahmed has other priorities. 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.800 This is the man who's meant to represent fifty thousand 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:47.959 people in the council. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.680 Australia's Holocaust began on twenty six of January seventeen eighty 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:58.240 eight with invasion, ethnic cleansing, genocide, This possession and the 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.840 systematic killing of Abbud, regional and Totis treat islander peoples. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.280 If you truly care about the victims of Bondai, if 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.120 the mass killings of Palacinians over the past two years 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.119 has moved you, and if the suffering of the Ukrainian 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.440 people has shaken you, then stand with us this Monday. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.520 This is not a day to celebrate. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.560 It's a day to acknowledge truth, to mourn injustice and 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:23.640 demand change. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.920 Now, this is not just offensive to every day Ausies 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.720 who love the country and respect our values, but it's 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.880 deeply offensive to Jews to even bring up Bondai and 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.920 make a comparison to the Holocaust. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.200 He mentions Ukraine and Palestine. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.160 What does that have to do with the lives of 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.480 indigenous Australians. But let's not forget three of the victims 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.760 of the Bondai attack that he seems adamant to bring 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.280 up were from Ukraine and came to this great country. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.160 Of ours for a better life. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.440 Heroes Boris and Sophia German who were gunned down trying 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.880 to stop the Bondai gunman Sajitakram were Ukrainian immigrants, and 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.360 Alex klaytonan a Holocaust survivor, migrated to Australia from Ukraine. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.920 Yet this is the hateful and divisive rhetoric from an 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.120 elected councilor. And what bothers me the most is that 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:13.080 Ahmed is an immigrant from Egypt. He was welcomed here 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.800 with open arms to a better country for a better life. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.280 He stands for local council and wins. He was given 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.320 that massive opportunity in this country and that is how 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.840 he repays the country that welcomed him in. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:26.359 And it gets. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.240 Worse, and actually people who are pushing heart for the 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.200 twenty six to become the day. I have my doubts 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.560 and I have my concerns about them. Living amongst them 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.400 is something that doesn't bring any peace or comfort to me. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:45.600 Because if you're out of key with celebrating the beginning 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.600 of a genocide, maybe one day, when you have the chance, 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:55.120 you might start another genocide. I'd be afraid. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:58.880 Unbelievable. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.280 Now, what I would say to Armaduf is if you 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.760 don't like how our national Day is celebrated and you're 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.080 not proud of our national Day, then one, why are 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.600 you representing your local council in this country? Why run 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.920 at all? And two if you don't like our national 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.640 Day or you have a problem with the way we 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:22.440 celebrate in this country, leave why are you here? And 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.200 by the way, Armeduf was endorsed by the Muslim vote 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.880 at the last election. He averaged twenty percent of the 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.160 primary vote across the electorate of Blaxland. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.640 That's Labor MP Jason Clare's seat. So make of that 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:34.360 what you will. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.160 But it is always at this time of year, isn't it, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:38.920 when the self loathing starts. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.280 We shouldn't be ashamed of our nation. We are prosperous. 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:43.920 We are the land of opportunity. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.560 So this Australia Day, I want to say thank you 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.280 to the heroes of Bondi, the everyday Assis who put 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.760 their lives on the line to save others, and to 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.240 those Aussies who couldn't be saved. Thank you to our 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.440 emergency servicemen and women. Thank you to those who fight 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.640 for this country and continue to do so. If you're 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.119 a migrant and have been lucky enough to be welcomed 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.879 into this country with open arms like my family. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.240 Was, show your pride. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.719 You'll never get it as good as this. Consider yourself lucky. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.480 Labour won't bring us together. They've proven that, so it's 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.119 up to all of us to unite in this great 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.560 Australia of ours. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.639 I am, you are, we are Australian. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.200 Joining me now is LMPMP Garth, Hamilton Garth. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.040 Good to have you on. Thank you so much for 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:34.520 joining me. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.320 A lot to get through, but firstly, Susan Lee's days 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:39.399 are numbered. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.760 Well. For all the reasons you outlined at the start 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.240 of the program, I don't think things can continue. We 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.439 have to draw things to a head. Our job is 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.560 to hold this government to account and as you've rightly 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.959 pointed out across this summer, we've needed to do that 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.480 after the events at Bondi. But we should be talking 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.440 about the largest blowout in my EFO history, forty seven 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.600 point eight bills in dollar budget blowout under this treasurer, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.840 and that should be the focus of our conversation right now. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:08.360 It's not, and we need to. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.399 Address that right so Andrew Hasty or Angus Taylor. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.760 Well, look, there hasn't been a spill called, and I'm 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.960 not faced with that question just yet. What I would 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.240 say these are both two men that I greatly respect, 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.719 and they've worked very closely with both of them. Angus 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.119 has been I think one of the greatest economic minds 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.840 we have in the party. And Andrews stood right beside 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.879 me during the net zero debate all the way through 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.000 leaving the way. So these are two very good people. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:33.960 I hope they can work together, and I think a 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:34.960 lot of people do too. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.160 So you're not going to back or one or the other. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.359 Well, I'm not in that position yet, but when i am, 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:41.280 I'll come and see it. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.080 All Right, Well, look, let's talk about this coalition split. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.320 Let me ask you this, what a different leader potentially 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.639 bring back the coalition. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.080 Look, I think it's a very important conversation we need 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.200 to have with the National Party. I think they probably 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.760 have straight across the line in terms of what's acceptable 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.359 between two coalition partners. I certainly don't want to be 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.879 having a conversation about the National Party leadership, and I 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.160 don't think they should be having a conversation about ours 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.400 But that said, there's no policy disputes between the two 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.080 parties right now. In fact, there is nothing separating us 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.679 on policy going forward. Right now we should be back together. 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:15.600 We should be doing that very quickly. I don't think 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.040 that is an issue of leadership necessarily. I think that 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.639 is every member of the party agreeing that we're going 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:21.320 to work together. 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.720 Well, But just on the matter of leadership, then how 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.200 do you think David Little Proud has handled this? Because 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.160 a lot of blame has been laid at the feet 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.600 of Susan Lee, But is he too at fault here? 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.359 Look, I think the right approach would be to give 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.399 an element of grace to both Susan and David on 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.000 this issue. This has been poorly handled by the government. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.680 Our reaction wasn't perfect either. I think the appropriate time 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.480 now would be for a little bit of cool heads 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.600 to take part. I think David knows that as well. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.880 Should there have been a joint party room meeting, would 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.120 that have prevented this whole saga from the beginning? 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:55.840 Absolutely? 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.320 All right, Well that's the question, straight answer. Absolutely. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.679 Yeah, It's been a shambolic week, but there's absolutely no 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.280 doubt And I do want to ask you about these 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.200 hate speech laws. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.360 You have been furiously against. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.960 It, but alas they've passed. Here was Labour's Murray Watt 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:13.600 on this this morning. 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:14.200 Have a listen. 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.280 It's not about cracking down on free speech. It's not 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.879 about cracking down on people expressing a view. You know, 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.879 we treasure a free speech and democracy in this country 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.480 about it. We don't want to stop that right. 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.199 So he says that Labor treasures free speech. But now 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.359 in the eyes of the law, what could be deemed 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.280 hate speech or not is up to you know, a bureaucrat. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.280