1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Tom Lynch sent directly to the tribunal. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: For a wild strike that has the Richmond forward staring 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: at the longest suspension of the season. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: Michael Voss safe for now as the Blues commit to 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: calm and rational decisions while bringing forward. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Graham Wright's takeover and our. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Coaches are heading for a Thursday night of historic proportions. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Alistair Clarkson and Luke Beveridge together at the desk. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: You've talked about is this step into it, embrace all. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Of it in the room and eat it. It's unedifying 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: for a senior coach to do that. They're on the 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: side of Cautia with the brain, take the man on. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: They played the best footy I've ever seen at the 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: start of the season, and in said the president left 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: the cup of older say, of course they do. Is 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: the stuff that legends are made of. 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: What is holding the ball? 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: that I could do. 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: Something wrong, you know, And I need to get and 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: the boards actually. 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty 23 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: year old, all. 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: The angles of round sixteen are ahead of us and 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: with Gas taking his Byley Montagna and welcome back to 26 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: the three sixty deaths. 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Seek you, Jerry, different seat, big shoes to fill, but 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 3: looking forward. 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: To one seat closer to the throne. 30 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: Nice of you to have me too, So thank you. 31 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: All right, the god forsaken by round zar Oh, so 32 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: I thought, just a little recap of what's happened. It's 33 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: not that the ladder really made sense at the end 34 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: of round eleven, but it made more sense than it 35 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: did in any of the weeks in between. So my 36 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: game of snakes and ladders. It was a disastrous period 37 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: for gold Coast and it was excellent for Fremantle, which 38 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: emphasized how important it was that they pulled that out 39 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: of the fire yesterday, and everybody else made incremental gains. Well, 40 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: the Giants actually went three and one, but lost a 41 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: place on the ladder. 42 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: That doesn't make sen Yeah, that is weird, that's strange. 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad we through the by periods. Let's 44 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: be honest, it's it is too long. We'd got to 45 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: cut that back. I think two's probably the right option 46 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: next year. But yeah, there's been some change, and they 47 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: said gold Coast they needed that win. That would be 48 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: disastrous for them if they to let that slip. It's 49 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: unfortunately there's not too many teams from the bottom nine 50 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: that are making a jump. 51 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: So we deliberately cut that at nine because we're living 52 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: in a two speed economy. 53 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: We are, aren't we. 54 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: And it's a shame because we've still got eight rounds 55 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: of footy to go. So it's going to be interesting 56 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: to see what these nine teams and their purpose and 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: what they play for and how they go about it. 58 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: Obviously trying to win now, but also planning for the 59 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 3: future has to be in there, thinking if they can't 60 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: play finals this season. But amazing that you've got the 61 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: top nine teams playing the bottom nine in round seventeen. 62 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: It's emphasized there's already a gap. 63 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: It could be even bigger. 64 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: It's only the third time, I think in eight years 65 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: that that's actually happened top nine the bottom nine. What 66 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: is fascinating that there will be an upset, someone will 67 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: slip up, so you don't want it to be your 68 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: team when the top eight, the top nine is so competitive, Yeah, 69 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: so how do the bottom nine exist? 70 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: But you're right, is in the top nine if you're 71 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: the team that fumbles the game here and there, the 72 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: cost could be extreme because there's only seventeen games left 73 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: Top nine versus top nine, so they'll be the shapers. 74 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: But it's the ones that teams will fumble when you're 75 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: starting to cost them a play. 76 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: See when you start looking at the predictor and start 77 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: expecting the top teams to win all these games, there'll 78 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: be one. There might even be two that are going 79 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: to let one slip, and that could be costly, not 80 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: just top four, but could be the team that finishes ninth. 81 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: But you're fascinating with the teams that aren't going to 82 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: be in the finals race and how they go about it, 83 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: because if you've got to find your purpose, you've got 84 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: to be planning for the future as well, but still 85 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: setting the right culture and winning habits of trying to 86 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: win the remaining eight games of the season, Mister. 87 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: Trick, with the wild card having we had as a 88 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: live possibility would have been very helpful for the remainder 89 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: of this season. Alistair Clarkson and Luke Beverige, you're going 90 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: to join us at the desk and then on the couch. 91 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: Jack Revolt, Jordan Lewis, Jonathan Brown and Nathan Buckley so 92 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: fully stocked as they look to the events of the 93 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: previous rounds. Tomorrow night Players Night, Harry mckaye will be here, 94 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: so the Carleton perspective is so fascinating at the moment. 95 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: And Nick Blakey from Sydney. They look a threat, but 96 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: they're too far back. Ray Chamberlain, we might put him 97 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: to work on the umpiring of all the Tom Lynch scenarios. 98 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: It might be particularly timely as the tribunal comes to 99 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: its close. And then John Longmeyer Simpson with one hundred 100 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: year celebrations at North Melbourne. They'll be an intimate part 101 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: of that. And Dyson Daniels is going to join us 102 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: on Wednesday night in the studio, the hot thing from 103 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: the NBA who loves his tigers more than anything else. 104 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: He's at the MCG on Sunday. He sat in the 105 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: outer We couldn't believe it. You'd think he'd be up 106 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: in the box sitting on champagne. But Dyson was amongst 107 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: the people are loving. 108 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: It, love it, love it all right now, this is 109 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: the big responsibility. It's a one round of the season 110 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: that the GVPS will not be in Gary Lyon's hands. 111 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: Here's the estimation of the most valuable players. With great 112 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: power comes great responsibility because the keys to the muster 113 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: are yours. Here you can ruin the whole thing. Three 114 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: votes tips it in a certain direction. Value at ninety 115 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: three thousand dollars. Iconic design, unreal performance, five lit of 116 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: V eight engine, no unaccountable halfbacks, no defaulting to midfielders. 117 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: And with great power comes great responsibility. And there is 118 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: great power inside this vehicle. 119 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: While in nervous, I hope I do gas proud. I'm 120 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: a bit nervous going with this moment. I've tried to 121 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 3: stick to the crits. I think I've done a reasonable 122 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: job and I've kept it pretty safe. I haven't gone 123 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: to outlandish. But for the one vote, it was hard 124 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: to go past the old boy Jack gusting to kick 125 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: your personal best in game two hundred and seventy two. 126 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: He's turning thirty four years of age in a couple 127 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: of months and to go out and kick seven. I 128 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: know it was a big win against North Melbourne, a 129 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: little bit off Broadway down in Tazzy, but the year 130 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: that he's having. 131 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's sixth in the Colemans. We didn't even 132 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: know at the start of the year. 133 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: To be honest, if he was going to be in 134 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: their best team, if all their key forwards were fit 135 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: and available. But he's just using his smarts in his 136 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: goal now. He's not necessarily doing it with long searching 137 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: leads and the ability that he did ten years ago. 138 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: But he's still finding a way to hit the scoreboard. 139 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I love it. 140 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: The joy that he gives his younger teammates is just 141 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: so beautiful. It's almost like his teammates of fans in 142 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: these moments. 143 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: They call him Dad or something. Him and Luke Bruce. 144 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: So he gets the one vote. I thought he was sensational. 145 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Two votes. 146 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm going with a second year player that it wasn't 147 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: just a breakout game. It was a power powerful performance. 148 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: And that was Dan Kurtin at the MCG yesterday to 149 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: see him live and up close and what he is 150 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: capable of. I mean, I called him he's the next Unicorn. Really, 151 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: when you think about Blitzervs and Luke Jackson and Sam 152 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: Darci one hundred and ninety seven centimeters, he'd be somewhere 153 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: close to one hundred kilos. But to be able to 154 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 3: run like he can, the athleticism to play up the 155 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: ground twenty six touches, two goals, eleven score involvements. 156 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: He can intercept the ball. 157 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: They have just got another weapon that they are just 158 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: scratching the surface of the Sadela Crows team. 159 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: The course of his career is so interesting. He was 160 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: a riveting figure in the draft as to where he 161 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: was going to end up high for a long time 162 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: and then slipped. The start of his career didn't look 163 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: like he had a position, and now he's got every position. 164 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. 165 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 2: The Blitzebs comparisons are a really good one. All right, three 166 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: three votes. 167 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: It's hard to go past the Western Bulldogs on Friday Night. 168 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: Joel Fraser, I thought this he was the difference in 169 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: this game. It started to look a little bit hairy 170 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: for the Western Bulldogs in the third quarter when isaac 171 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: Ene was going nuts at one end, and then Joel Fraser, 172 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: another second year player, says I can match you and 173 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: kick three of his own in the third quarter when 174 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 3: they needed some of them more. 175 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm giving him the. 176 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: Three votes Jeriors, because I love when the superstars are 177 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: slightly down. 178 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: So Bond was in his best. 179 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: Richards was getting sat on bailey Dale second half. But 180 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: this guy's a stand up pick forty five What a steal. 181 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: This is what a luxury for the Western Bulldogs to 182 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: have this young man. I think the only teenager wet 183 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: of only three teenagers to have four goals in twenty 184 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: o touch alongside Dusty Martin, Harley Bonnell. He was sensational. 185 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he's got votes before. I don't 186 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: think he has. John just say welcome Joel. All right, 187 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: and he's been in touching distance of danger. 188 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: You haven't disrupted the leader I don't want to go 189 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: any the leaderboard there. 190 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Well done. 191 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: We'll pick up that conversation with a coach a little 192 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: later on, Joe Frasier. Let's get to the agenda and 193 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: at the top of it, Tom Lynch will answer at 194 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: the tribunal tomorrow night for a wild afternoon at the 195 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: MCG three chargers in all the headline acts for his 196 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: roundhouse strike that will have the AFL seeking the biggest 197 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: suspension of the season. 198 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: This is in a lot of trouble. 199 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: Here totally and chas absolutely touch Tots in the back 200 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: of the head. 201 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: That is shade is very hard. Get him from here 202 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: to go? What I done? He's lost his head. 203 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: He home week lost it. 204 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: Wow, He's gonna have to get him off, like he's 205 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: lost the boy. 206 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: He has lost it? 207 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Did Shi get the boy off? 208 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: No excuse with his response, but I can understand his frustration. 209 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: He apologized to the group because. 210 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: He knew he let him down. 211 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I didn't want to cause harm or anything like that. 212 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 6: I was just trying to get pray or whatever in 213 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 6: frustration came out and it's not been enough to later. 214 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I was just more frustrated with how he's defending. 215 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 6: Me, I thought, and clearly he was winning rules because 216 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 6: no free kicks ordered me and I went outside the rules. 217 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, would be better. I almost there, Guys, Please, 218 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm not saying here compy this. 219 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 6: If it had made contact, he would be serving eight weeks. 220 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: He's going to be out of the game for a while. 221 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: That will be a big talking point. 222 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: He will get. 223 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 6: Waits for that. 224 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: We haven't seen anything like that in years. 225 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: It was a rare and ugly moment. 226 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: And then demand's serious consequence and that will happen to 227 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: the tribunal tomorrow night. So Joey, there are a couple 228 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: of possibilities here. There was the provision within the way 229 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: that the laws are written that the match review officer 230 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: could have given Tom Lynch four weeks and just somewhere 231 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: summarily handled it like that, But he has referred directly 232 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: to the tribunal. 233 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: So that gives you the indication that the. 234 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: AFL will seek greater than four, and four is the 235 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: highest suspension of the season so far. I also think 236 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: there's the layer of it belongs at the tribunal. There 237 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: should be a level of accountability for this, not just 238 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: signed off behind the scenes. Is Lynch fronts and answers 239 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: for his actions, and the judicial system gets to say 240 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: is if you land this in the way that it 241 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: was thrown. This is Andrew gaff and Barry Hall territory. 242 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: So those are eight weeks suspensions, and I think in 243 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: this envine it would have been higher. So I anticipate 244 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: that they'll seek five tomorrow night, three charges throughout the 245 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: course of the afternoon. You're on judy. I always think 246 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: if you've called the game, you've got a great feel 247 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: for it. So the first for the wrestle, which costs 248 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: him three grand, there's a striking misdemeanor there, so it 249 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: doesn't cross the threshold, but it earns him a flyne 250 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: and then the headline at just as it was unfolding. 251 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: What did you sense? Your sense he had the red 252 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: mist going. He was right on a fine, a fine line. 253 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: He was already giving away free kicks. I think you'd 254 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: given away. 255 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: Five three kicks before he'd had a disposal, and you 256 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: could sense the frustration building. To be fair, I don't 257 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: think anyone would expect to see what we saw. That 258 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: caught everyone by surprise because, as we said, you're in 259 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: the court, we haven't seen anything like that for years. 260 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: I think it was twenty eight and it might have 261 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: been the Gap incident, So it was surprising, but there 262 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: was no doubt it was bubbling away. And I just wonder, 263 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the coaches come out and he's come out 264 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: and said it was the frustration, probably the way that 265 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: he was getting treated from Jordan Butts. I wonder where 266 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: there was a frustration about him for how he was playing, 267 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: Whether there was a sense of embarrassment and frustration that 268 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: he couldn't touch the footy and it just got too 269 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: much for him and he lashed out. 270 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: And he's going to pay the price, there's no doubt 271 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: about that. 272 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 3: And it's going to go to the tribune and I'm 273 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: with you, I think that's the right call. 274 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: It's just going to. 275 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: Be interesting that whether is there is there in a 276 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: world where the lawyers weave their magic and they can 277 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,239 Speaker 3: get this downgraded. 278 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: So the AFL could have. 279 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: Taken the four and not had the opportunity to challenge. 280 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: But you think it's okay to go with the trib. 281 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: It's the right principle to go and ask for five. 282 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Say the tribunal comes back with four, you go, well, 283 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: the league did its job. So the provision around the 284 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: risk of causing injury is usually one category, So this 285 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: is a rare moment. It moves from medium to high 286 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: to severe and then it goes beyond the minimum of 287 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: three around severe. 288 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: So this is the. 289 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: Stretch goal for a stretch moment. And I do think 290 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: the whole industry needs to do its job here, and 291 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: that's the tribunals not to get beguiled by the lawyers. 292 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: Is the right level of punishment? Is A is a 293 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: confronting one. So Nash gets his four weeks for the 294 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: roundhouse on Myers and the ball is there, like it's 295 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: a good point agricultural, The ball is there. This has 296 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: to be the biggest suspension of the year for what 297 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: it might have led to. I also think with Lynch, 298 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: it's an interesting moment. It's highly unlikely he's going to 299 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: play in the next successful Richmond team. They're doing exactly 300 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: what they should be doing at the moment, and it 301 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: looks like they're going to run out of puff in 302 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: the back end of the season. So he's going to 303 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: have to find a way to manage all of this. 304 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: He's going to be the key forward in the last 305 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: of his years in a team that is not going 306 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: to be instantly successful. He's going to draw attention. He's 307 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: going to have to manage this for the remainder of 308 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: his playing days, and if he can't, he probably needs 309 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: to get out of it. 310 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: It's a good point. 311 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a highly competitive player who was 312 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: in premierships and in great sides. He has to completely 313 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: change his mindset now it's not going to be like 314 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: it was. He can't let the frustrations boil over. He 315 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: needs to start thinking about the team instead of himself. 316 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: That is his role in the side now felt up 317 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: until yesterday. I know it how poorly he played, but 318 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: he did have a role in that team to help 319 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: the youngsters, the Johnsy Falls and Armstrong. 320 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: When he plays to guide them through. 321 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: But you're right, he needs to change the mindset completely 322 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: about what he is going to expect and what he 323 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: needs to expect from himself otherwise, right, maybe he says, 324 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: you know, if it's too hard for him, put his 325 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: hand up, so maybe I can go to a contender 326 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: for another year or two. He thinks he's got it 327 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: in him, but he's gonna have a lot of work 328 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 3: to do on himself and his leadership around the club too, 329 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: because they're all looking at him. That's what these young 330 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 3: guys are looking for, and he's let himself in the 331 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: team down. 332 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a sobering moment for him and it'll have 333 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: its full ramifications tomorrow night. The opening moments of the 334 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: rounds involved Carlton. It really did reverberate all the way 335 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: through the rest of the weekend of forty. What would 336 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: the ramifications of this die performance for the Blues be. 337 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to describe what we're thinking. I'm shocked, to 338 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: be honest. 339 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 6: It's like the football world has just caved in on 340 00:13:59,200 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 6: top of. 341 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: Them, and I know what to do. 342 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: The question now is whether lack of us is starting 343 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: to lose the group. 344 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: A A nightmare on Adelaide over. 345 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: I'll continue, like Carlton, you don't this is ugly. 346 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: You'd have to be able to look at the start 347 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 6: of the game and sort of go back and say, 348 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 6: we'll have prepared. Were we to prepare the style of 349 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 6: football that we wanted to play, how hard do we 350 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 6: want to go with that? 351 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Really is the answers we weren't. It doesn't really matter 352 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: what the Magnets are going to do. It's the effort 353 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: that the players put on. It's just not up to 354 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: stand at the moment. 355 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: They're devoid of confidence, they look to be devoid of hope, 356 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: They've been devoid of skill in the first half. They're better. 357 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: Players have got to be better. They've got to perform, 358 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: They've got to lead the way turn it around. 359 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 6: I don't think it's more about turning around, and the 360 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 6: US does become about what we tell you and what 361 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 6: you do find out a lot about is your character, 362 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 6: your football team, football club. 363 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: Right now? 364 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 6: What I feel right now as a leader is I 365 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 6: feel really disappointed for our people, enormously disappointed, enormously disappointment, 366 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 6: not where we want to be. 367 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Michael Voss, moving down towards the bench, this is something 368 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: we haven't seen for a while. Michael Voss coaching from 369 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: the bench. So either that or going home, no world. 370 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: It was a carbon prospect that it was worse in reality, 371 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: and they walked to Friday night foot now against their 372 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: old rival Collingwood with Brisbane thereafter. For how that performance 373 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: happened is sort of riveting in its own right, and 374 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: then there's a much bigger picture. So I felt the 375 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: game against North Melbourne was the collapse of hope and 376 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: belief in the middle and I felt like this was 377 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: PTSD on Thursday. It was the trauma cycle. Is they 378 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: had lived this doom loop before, and I reckon they 379 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: got trapped in it. They've got more than a third 380 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: of their season to go, so you sort of have 381 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: to rationalize compartmentalize it. And then this team's got its flaws, 382 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: but it's not that bad. No, They've rarely played like that. 383 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: The one thing you can say about card is they've 384 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: generally given great effort. 385 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: That is been true. 386 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: But the first thing I suppose, how does that performance coming. 387 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes you need to remind people they are human, so 388 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: they're coming into this game with human emotions, with thoughts, 389 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: with concerns, with self preservation with what ifs, and then 390 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: sometimes if you've got too many players thinking that way, 391 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: it can unravel really quickly, and there probably would be 392 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: a heavy burden on some of the leaders. I think 393 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: there'd be some others that have just said the life 394 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: were sucked out of them last week knowing finals out 395 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: of the question, So all of a sudden, the motivation 396 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: is changing. 397 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: What are we playing for? 398 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: And I think it just all culminated in that week 399 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: that they hadn't sorted it out, They hadn't been able 400 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: to work out what's driving us, what's the motivation, what's 401 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: the purpose, what does it look like? And they got 402 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: the performance they did, so I think that'll be the 403 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: conversation this week they would have had internally, is right, Okay, 404 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: let's forget about finals. Let's just get back to what 405 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: do we want to stand for? What are we going 406 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: to do for these last eight weeks of the year. 407 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: And I'm expecting a response in their effort, And if 408 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: it's not and they don't play and they play something 409 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: similar again, or they don't give the effort they've shown generally, 410 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: then it's a concern for Michael Voss in the back 411 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: end of the season, because then it does look like 412 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: maybe the players are choosing say, well, we're not playing 413 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: for the coach, But I don't expect that. I think 414 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: the group will respond and play with some heart, you'd hope. 415 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: So anyway, there had to be a level of intervention 416 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: I reckon for Carleton's to be able to poise and 417 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: set themselves for what's to come. And it needed to 418 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: come from the top, and it did. As the president 419 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: Rob Priestley front of the cameras today. 420 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: There's a little noise around your senior coach. Will Mohel 421 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: be the coach in round one twenty twenty six. 422 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, Voss's contracted until the end of twenty six. That 423 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 5: doesn't change. I think what we're trying to do here 424 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: is as I said then, is really focus on the 425 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 5: next eight weeks, get ourselves into the very best possible position, 426 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 5: addressing things that we need to address, and then that 427 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 5: gets us into the end of the season where we 428 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: can in a really calm and measured way make decisions 429 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 5: if we need to make them then but you know, 430 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 5: we're focused on the next eight weeks and Voss's our coach. 431 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: The form continues the way it's doing. You can't see 432 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: a world where Michael is not coaching, to see how 433 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: he's contract in twenty twenty six. I think of just 434 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: answered that. 435 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 5: So we will go through the next date weeks. Everybody's 436 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 5: focused on that, the coaches, the players, and then we 437 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 5: will assess our season in this entirety at that point 438 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: in time, and we will make rational and calm decisions. 439 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: So you had to create an environment where there is 440 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: no imminent risk of sacking. I think that was absolutely 441 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: critical to get back to work and to everyone is 442 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: on edge at Carlton because there's no review. But Graham 443 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: writers the fresh blood. He's going to take over on 444 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: August fifteen, which makes all the sense in the world 445 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: is he gets a couple of weeks at the end 446 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: of the home and away season and then immediately that 447 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: it finishes, he will roll out his plan, which presumably 448 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: he would take to the board, have ratified, and then 449 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: get to the business. Now, because of the way the 450 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: industry is geared, it finds in on Michael Voss. It 451 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: includes Voss, but it's much bigger than Voss. As to 452 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: what they're going to do. Are they going to crack 453 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: their list open? What do they do with their management 454 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: of the football department, what do they do with the 455 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: senior coach and with his coaching staff. Typically what would 456 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: happen is there would be a review instituted now. But 457 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: what Carltner's will served is it's been going since December. 458 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Graham Wright is the fresh eyes. He's seen it all. 459 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: He will make his judgments. And I truly believe this 460 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: is anyone who thinks what anyone who thinks they know 461 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 2: what right is going to do. 462 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: I Reckon's making it up. 463 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: He has had no cause to tell anyone anything, hasn't 464 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: laid a plan out for the board. Brian Cook still 465 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: has his hands on the wheel. He has been able 466 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: to work his way through it to come up with 467 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: what will end up being calm, rational and measured decisions. 468 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: But there's no need to articulate as those to anybody 469 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: just yet. 470 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: So we wait to see. 471 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: But I do think the purpose of today is to go, 472 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: get back to work eight weeks nothing. The world is 473 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: not going to end next week if you lose bye 474 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 2: hundred points of calum and it's not going to end 475 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: the week after. So go and don't waste the last 476 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: third of the season. 477 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: Now, I thought I spoke perfectly because you don't want 478 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: to say he's going to coach till the end of 479 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: his contract because you can't guarantee that, but you can 480 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: guarantee get through at the end of the season. As 481 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: they said, make those calm decisions, and I think I 482 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: think Michael Voss needs that too, because, as we said earlier, 483 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: with the teams that can't play finals, there is an 484 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: element of still playing for the now, but you need 485 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: to also keep it to start looking at the bigger 486 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: picture and what it's going to look like next year. 487 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: So the last thing Carlton would want is Michael Voss 488 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: coaching for himself and picking guys that he feels safe 489 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: with and a style. So if he gets that support 490 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: and at the end of the season, you can sit 491 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: down and say, right, so the last eight weeks, what 492 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: did it look like while we brought in some fresh blood, 493 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: We're playing some VFL players, we tinke it with a 494 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: bit of our style. All those things will come into 495 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: it and as you said, they will make the calm, 496 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: calculated decisions then. 497 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: So I like it. It puts the players. 498 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: At ease as well that the Voss is going to 499 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: be there, so they can get to work and hopefully 500 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: you get to see a response from the playing group. 501 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: But there's no doubt there's going to be changed. That's 502 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: with Graham, right, will do. It's just a matter of 503 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: how much and where it starts. 504 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and changes needed warranted, but what is proportional and 505 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: how do you go about it? So yeah, I just 506 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: think it takes the air out of it a little bit, 507 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: knowing that the next two weeks are fearsomely difficult. Hopefully 508 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: they as a result they can get the rise after 509 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: the collapse, because it really was the collapse on Thursday 510 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: and a bit in the trade space today. So Kaltumi 511 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 2: reported late in the afternoon that Miles Bergmann is going 512 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: to accept a two year extension to remain at Port Adelaide. 513 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: I was watching their game on Thursday night and Mark 514 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: Raschuda was talking about it. It's hard to keep him 515 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: because he's blossomed. 516 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: They're keeping him. 517 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: And the second part of this will Faulkner in our 518 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: building here is because Sint Kilda has come away from 519 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: the pursuit of Bergmann to concentrate on the retention of 520 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: Thesia Wangon and Miller. 521 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating and for all reports as much as 522 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: every club in Victoria would have been keen to meet 523 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: with Miles Bergmann. 524 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: I believe it didn't really even get to that. 525 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: He was just waiting and assessing, and Saints worth the 526 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: keenest and probably at the start of the season probably 527 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: it did lean like it was going to head that way. 528 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: Now the fascinating parties have they withdrawn their interest? Does 529 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: that mean that they are nervous about keeping the Zio 530 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: Wangon Miller and have had to just increase their off 531 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: for a bit, or maybe they've already done that and 532 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: they feel comfortable and confident that Asia is going to 533 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: re sign, and they've just sort of readone the books 534 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: maybe and thought, you know what, we've got maybe Tom 535 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: Deconey coming in. We've kept the Zai Wangoney Miller at 536 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: a high price. Maybe they've also got something else in 537 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: the works and said, you know, we don't want to 538 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: go down the Bergman path because we need to trade 539 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: for him and we're happy with where we're at. 540 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: So that's what Saints fans be hoping. 541 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: The other ways that they're nervous that this means and 542 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: Kilda are really digging deep to try and keep those. 543 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: What Saints fans would fear is that somehow Wangoney Miller 544 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: lines up with Bergmann but just at the other all. 545 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: Well, and that's what Port Adelaide to be hoping for now. 546 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: It's a great get for Port Adelaide first of all. 547 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: I mean he's ascending in a Raider knots this season 548 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: to elevate the top fifty player in the game. 549 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: The next one's going to be Zach Butter's. That's the 550 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: next big fignature. 551 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 3: But if they can land the Zaire as well and 552 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: keep Zach Butters, Josh Carr's got a few toys to 553 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: play with you. 554 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah,