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Speaker 3: That is Robert Irwin.

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Speaker 4: And this is better than yesterday, making it better every

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Speaker 4: episode since twenty thirteen. My name' Josha Ginsburg. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for being a part of the show. It's

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Speaker 4: and it involves this extraordinary moment between Robert Irwin, Terry Irwin,

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Speaker 4: at episode five hundred and twenty one. Robert Irwin is incredible.

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Speaker 4: He's a conservationist, he's an adventurer, he's a photographer, and yes,

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Speaker 4: Clearly, he looks after himself physically, But I wanted to

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Speaker 2: And I think Australia as a country is this perfect

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Speaker 2: That's why I do what I do because pretty soon,

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Speaker 1: Like this left.

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Speaker 3: So we need that.

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Speaker 2: But Australians we value that so much and I feel

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Speaker 4: And seeing that what we have is normal, almost enormous value,

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Speaker 3: Is that.

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Speaker 4: I put the wrong thing in my yellow bin, so

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Speaker 2: I can say that's all right, that you will not

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Speaker 2: so you've got that keep cup that one's made out,

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Speaker 4: Be able to like the assoft plastics guy. I was

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Speaker 3: Like why do we not?

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Speaker 4: Why is there not legislation that is like, okay, no

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Speaker 1: Guys?

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Speaker 3: Figure it out? Why mate?

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Speaker 4: Why are they're not upstreamed? Because as punters, if we're

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Speaker 2: Company is thing just you got to go hang on

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Speaker 2: a minute, So while you're saying I am a terrible

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Speaker 2: we should also be saying, these giant corporations that are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's what do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: We're people.

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Speaker 4: Let's also look at we're members of the public making

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that is it. You shouldn't feel guilty.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to go, oh, no, I forgot to

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Speaker 2: No, it's just as long as you're trying, as long

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Speaker 2: there are so many different ways to make change, and yes,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Be holding big corporations, governing bodies accountable for what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being a part of that.

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Speaker 4: It's great chat the full conversation with Robert irwin Ist.

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Speaker 4: We unpacked so much more, including his method which is

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Speaker 4: to where we live this planet. Essentially, scroll down Episode

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Speaker 4: five twenty one is where the full chat is.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 4: If you want to get in touch, stay updated about

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Speaker 4: live gigs. There's a couple coming head to Oshiginsberg got

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Speaker 4: substack dot com linkers In the show notes.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to all the team that help me make this show.

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Speaker 4: Abby Benno's my executive producer, Andy mar the Great and

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Speaker 3: To Hier made all the music.

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Speaker 4: And my executive function assistant is Monica Chapman, without whom

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Speaker 4: my calendar would just explode.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being a part of it.

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Speaker 4: Tell a friend, See you Wednesday.