WEBVTT - Sharri | 22 October 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:03.520 Why on Sky News. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:09.959 Sharry Good Evening, And that's a wrap on the leader's debate. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:11.680 We've got a lot to get through tonight. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.800 But first we just saw Stephen Miles and David Chris 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.480 Fuley go head to head in their last fiery debate 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.279 as they try to win over undecided voters. This was 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.040 a crucial test with Queenslanders heading. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.320 To the polls in just four days. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.639 Neither leader could afford a slip up. Now, the polls 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.480 have for some time predicted a landslide win for the NP, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.800 but Labor just this week is closing the gap. As 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:41.280 I said, we've got a lot coming up on the 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.400 show tonight. I'm going to tell you about a secret 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.920 visit Peter Dutton made today in Sydney. But first let's 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.920 bring in former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman and former Queensland 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.200 Labor State Secretary Cameron Milner. Now, as I just said, 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.160 polls have shown a tightening, especially in the southeast, so 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.360 this debate really was important. Campbell, who did you give 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.600 it to and why? 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.920 Look, I thought it was even Stevens tonight, But as 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.559 I said, for the first debate, I think Miles has 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.720 a more comfortable Alburt. This is a funny, funny thing 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.720 to say awkward persona, but it is the sort of 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.560 the daggy dad stuff. David is far more intense and 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.920 it's a bit like the famous nineteen sixty debate in 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.280 the US presidential elections between Nixon and Kennedy. If you 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.640 just had the audio, I think David is quite compelling, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.480 But when you see it on the screen, I think 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:43.160 Miles looks more approachable, and I think Australians like approachable leaders. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.600 So I think the other thing that happened tonight is 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.600 I think David Christoph fully skated very close to the 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.440 edge on the abortion issue earlier in the debate, and 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.400 then finally he gave later on in answer to Miles 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.320 direct question, he went, yes, he does support a woman's 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.240 right to choose. If you said that a week ago 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.640 or two weeks ago, perhaps they wouldn't have been hurt 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:06.160 so much. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.920 One hundred and thirty two times David Christophooley has failed 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.120 to answer the question about whether he does support women's 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.799 right to choose. This was a big issue not only 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.160 in the debate, but it has been in the Queensland 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.359 state election campaign. Let's have a look at one of 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.920 the most heated moments on this very issue. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.119 Will be no changes to abortion law, and I want 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.880 Queenslanders to hear that directly from me. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.400 Can anyone tell from David's answer just then what he 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:35.520 thinks about this issue? 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.880 I mean, this is this is a really important issue. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:38.880 I think it shouldn't change. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.639 Everyone knows I think it shouldn't. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:41.079 Change the law. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.359 What will remain the same. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.600 Where you have a conscience spoke, the laws. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.520 Will remain this view there will do. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:47.639 You need no change. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.280 So the scare campaign will continue, but you need to 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:50.880 let me direct. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.240 Let me answer, well, let me answer the question. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.800 The scare campaign will continue, but it's not happening. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:56.920 Give a straight answer. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.639 Okay, there will be no change, none at all. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:00.880 Pro to us a lot. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.680 There will be no change. The legislation is there and 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.320 women will have access to that legislation that gives women 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:08.200 the right to choose. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:14.399 Cameron Milner, you know this has become such a big issue, clearly, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.520 you know Stephen Miles care bringing it up in the debate. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.000 David Crucifoli unequivocal that there'd be no change to the law, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.239 but he had been reluctant to give his own personal viewpoint. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.240 Has this been a scare campaign in your opinion? 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.160 Look, I think it's a campaign to a small group 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.720 of people who are motivated by this particular issue. Cost 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.680 of living overwhelmingly is the issue for Queens than's a 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.280 going to vote on youth crime, housing supply. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.520 So David Chrystophil. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.680 Has been campaigning on the big issues and Labour's gone 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.680 for a witch a US style smear campaign and fear campaign. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.160 I don't doubt it's an important issue, but I don't 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.040 think it has a place in queens and politics and 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.720 I don't think that are going after a binary situation 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.680 on what is a very complex issue is up for 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.080 a state campaign. Look, I think the result will tell 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.520 itself on Saturday Night, and I think the L ANDP 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.560 are in for government. I think the change of government's coming. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.440 Despite the fact that Miles that you've performed really well, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.200 really well in this campaign, I. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.840 Actually have to say that I disagree with you Campbell. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.440 On Stephen Miles's presentation. I thought, no, not you Cameron, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.920 you Cambell Newman. I've seen his presentation in that debate 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.800 was amateur. He didn't look like a premier. I think 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.159 when he kept saying he. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:31.839 Loves the job. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.560 Well, no one cares if you love the job. People 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.880 Queenslanders care what he's going to do for them. Youth crime, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.760 as you just said, Cameron, has been such a major issue. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.480 David chris A fully zeroed in on that in his 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:50.039 own question to Stephen Miles. He pointed out that there 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:54.680 have been cases where people have been injured or killed because. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:55.480 They were out on bail. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.000 This is something that is just unforgivable. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:02.039 Cambell Newman, Look, well, look that's the point I actually 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:07.360 am making. And it's like this, if you just had 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:11.600 the audio, I think David Christopher fully delivered some really 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.400 killer keller blows, apart from not being able to give 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.480 a quick succeed answer earlier debate on the abortion thing. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.520 And by the way, the problem with it, it's not 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.360 the issue itself, it's just when people are sitting there 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.760 at home seeing that sort of exchange and perhaps that 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:33.280 will be sharn on the nightly news tomorrow night. It's 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.000 again playing into this thing about sitting on the fence 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.880 and just give a straight answer, and that will motivate 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.560 a bloke who's undersided as much as a woman who 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:46.600 cares about the issue. But anyway, the audio has Christoph 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.240 fully delivering killer blows. But I actually here's why I 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.400 do disagree with you. I think Stephen Miles comes across 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.080 as the daggy dad. He's someone you can relate to. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.880 He's awkward, but that's what he's been doing on TikTok 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.880 and other social media channels for months now, and it's 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.560 like this, Shari, it's working. You know, he has improved 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.960 his position through this campaign, and I don't want him 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.039 to improve his position, but it's happening. And I think 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.679 this could be a lot closer than anybody has thought. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.440 Yeah, I think it will be a surprise if the 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.480 results are close, because we have been expecting a landslide 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.520 result for the L ANDP for so long. I just 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.159 found the grinning really frustrating, Like why are you grinning 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:31.520 so much? 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:32.799 At the premiere? 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.039 And now Paul Murray is going to have a lot 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.680 more on this topic at nine o'clock tonight. He's also 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.279 going to have the results of the People's Forum. Who 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.520 was the winner according to those in the room. But 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.240 before we go, Caaron Milner, you wrote a sensational piece. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.279 Another sensational piece in the Nightly where you talk about 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.599 Labour's signature future Made in Australia policy. I mean, this 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.599 is twenty two billion dollars in taxpayer funding, yet you 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.960 say it should be known as future made for Mates 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:06.520 because the taxpayer funds, you say, are only being given 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.200 to a select few, some of whom have been shown 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.720 by Paul Fletcher to have connections to labor figures. Can 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.240 you tell us a bit more about. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.320 This, Well, it's not future Made for Australia, it's future 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.640 made for mates, as I said. And the first billion 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.280 dollars went to Sundrive, which is backed by a venture 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.360 capital company called Blackbird Ventures. And the next billion dollars 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.200 we're decide Quantum, who no one ever heard of, who'd 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.840 been doing a whole series of secret deals behind the 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.800 scenes to shape up their deal with the government, backed 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.080 again by Blackbird Ventures. There's lots of questions here because 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.000 Blackbird Ventures key partner has been a mate and a 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.080 friend and a colleague of the very minister handing out 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.840 these deals, ed Husick. Ever since twenty fifteen, Nicki Slavic 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.320 has been with Eddie Husick. Now, I think there's lots 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.800 of questions to answer, and I wouldn't be surprised, wouldn't 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.440 be surprised if this all gets referred to the National 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.000 Anti Corruption Commission. That's what I expect. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.520 That absolutely needs to be an inquiry into this. I've 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.360 had Paul Fletcher on the show to talk about this. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.119 I'm going to get him on the show again because 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.880 it is a major issue at Cameron Milner, Campbell Newman, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.160 thank you both so much for your thoughts. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.440 On that leadership debate. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.040 Now let's turn to calls for Lydia Thorpe to resign 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.520 after humiliating Australia on the global stage. And this is 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.960 all on the Prime Minister Anthony Alberezi. Shouldn't have invited 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:31.080 her to attend the prestigious event yesterday where distinguished guests 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:32.040 were given. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.120 The opportunity to meet the King and Queen. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.720 It was utterly predictable that she was going to try 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.480 and ruin it. Lydia Thorpe is a volatile woman who 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.760 caused havoc at the Mardi Gras, outside a strip club, 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.760 in the Senate repeatedly, and on the lawns of Parliament House. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.280 It would have been a surprise had she not tried 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.360 to make the Royal visit all about herself. As political 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.120 writer Jeff Chambers said today, Lydia Thorpe is a one 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:05.679 trick pony who craves shameless publicity over substance while pocketing 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.600 a taxpayer funded salary of almost two hundred and sixty 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.720 thousand dollars working in an institution she claims. 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:14.880 To rage against. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:20.600 Now she's given embarrassing television performances in the UK and 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.000 there are now also calls for her to resign, and 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.480 Peter Dartin said today that he thinks there's a case 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.080 for this should she resign. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.800 I think there's a very strong argument for somebody who 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.600 doesn't believe in the system, but it's willing to take 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.959 quarter of a million dollars a year from the system 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.760 to resign in principle. And if you were really truly 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.880 about your cause and not just about yourself, then I 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.800 think that's a decision that you would make, all right. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.480 Former Speaker of the House Bronwyn Bishop and senior fellow 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.240 at the Menzies Research Center Nick Kata joined me, Now, Ronwin, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.480 do you agree with me that this is all on 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.599 the Prime Minister. He shouldn't have extended an invite to 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.440 Lydia Thorpe when it was obvious this was going to happen. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.600 Yes, she's a perennial exhibitionist, and I think we've seen 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.440 it in so many areas that she just wants to 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.800 cause a fastened draw attention to herself. I don't even 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.400 think that she's particularly got a cause. I think she 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.960 just likes the attention that comes to her. But the 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.400 thing that really makes me angry is that when she 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.360 took the oath of allegiance, she only did it so 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.400 she could be sworn in and get paid. There's nowhere 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.640 in the world she's going to resign because you know, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.240 if she's going to pocket another what seven hundred and 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.760 fifty thousand dollars, why would she resign. But the point 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.520 is that I think far too much attention is paid 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.559 to her. Yes, it would have been a good idea 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.840 not to invite her, but it's a bit hard not 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.160 to invite a member of Parliament who's entitled to walk 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.680 the floors of the Parliament and all areas of it. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.480 But it is to be expected that that's the case. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.760 But she is really and truly a problem in the 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.280 set itself. If you watch the Senate you'll see that 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.480 it's almost impossible to deal with her because to get 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.679 the numbers to throw her out you have to get 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.880 the Greens to vote against her and all sorts of people, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.200 so it doesn't happen. But I do think we have 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.680 to remember she was a dei pick by the Greens 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.560 and they're responsible for her being there. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.880 Yeah, unfortunately for all of us. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.080 Right now, Nick Kate, I want to ask you about 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:27.720 some comments that Matt Kean. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.559 He used to be the new South Wales Treasurer. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.559 He's now the Climate Change Authority Chair, handpicked by Anthony 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.720 albit Easy. He has slammed Peter Dutton's plan for nuclear energy. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.480 He says it's a wild fantasy. Nick, Countries all around 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.520 the world now have nuclear as part of that energy mix. 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.720 So do you think these claims are starting to sound 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.160 quite alarmist. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.720 Well, they're entirely motivated by self interest. I mean, I 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.520 don't know what Matt King's shareholdings are, what he owes 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.040 the renewable industry lobby or whatever, but the fact is 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.640 that the one organization or the one group of people 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.240 who really really want to keep nuclear out of this 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.560 country are not households who are desperate for secure electricity 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.840 supplies and cheap electricity supplies. It's the renewable industry. It's 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:24.199 these people who they know their investments will have overnight 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.960 the moment we introduce nuclear power of this country and 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.800 continue to fall. They're the ones out a pure economic 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.040 self interest. And I'm talking about people like Simon Holmes 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.280 of Court, who backs the teals he isn't interested in 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.600 renewable energy. It's that they don't want competition. They want 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:44.280 to protective market for this hopeless, useless, part time form 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.360 of electricity which is driving us all broke. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.560 I want to turn to Blackland because we learned today 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:56.679 that there's another independent Muslim candidate running, this time against 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.600 Jason Clare in the election of Blackland. Now, the candidate 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.800 who's running against him was that offensive opera house rally 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.520 a year ago. He says Israel has committed genocide. He 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:12.720 wouldn't answer the question when journalists asked him if he 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.559 viewed the October seven massacre as a day of celebration. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.960 His name is Ahmed uf. He's supported by the Muslim 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.720 Vote Group. He says he can win the next election 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.160 Ron when look, Jason Clair, this is a safe seat 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.720 he holds or he won Blacksland at the last election 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.040 with sixty five percent of the vote, So I don't 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.320 think this candidate has a chance of winning. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.560 But his views are so deeply offensive. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.320 I agree with you, and I agree particularly as Jason 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.080 Cleaar had a primary vote of fifty four percent, so 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.080 he's not going to be really in any danger of 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.920 losing that seat. But the important point is that there 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.599 is no leadership from Albernizi at all as to the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:05.320 acceptable way in which it has been allowed to praise 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:11.600 what has been done by Hamas. There is no strength 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:16.280 in the leadership that says antisemitism must stop. There's been 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.960 no indication to the police that they must arrest people 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.600 when they are behaving in that way as encouraging violence. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.680 There has got to be a definitive leadership and it's 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.880 only coming from Peter Dutton. It's strong from Peter Dutton, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:38.440 and there just doesn't exist from the Albanizi or Miles. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.880 Yeah, no question about that. Nikita. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.800 Do you think the rise of these Muslim candidates pose 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.520 a threat to labor in the same way that the 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.960 TiAl movement really decimated the liberal vote. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.600 I think we won't know until election night, Shari, because 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.360 this is so hard to measure, as we found with 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.400 the tills, it's actually so hard to poll measure. But 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.440 I think it's certainly to my mind, it imposed the 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.600 threat to our democracy. I just hate the idea that 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.000 somebody is standing for a party which has a religious basis. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.400 You know, that's not what we do in this country. 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.280 Religion should be divorced from politics. It's separate. You're standing 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.760 as a Muslim candidate or as you know, as the 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.400 ethnic candidate. No, you stand as an Australian citizen who 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.760 has committed this country and wants to make it a 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.480 better place. If you're just if you're just there for 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.680 one sectional group, then stay out. So I would rather 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.880 see Labor win this seat than an outright Muslim party. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.000 I don't know whether this one is, but now right 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.040 Muslim focused party winning I would rather see Labor back 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:42.560 in to be. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.040 Honest, Yeah, I don't think it's even about the religion. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.720 I just think it's about the offensiveness of the views. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.800 And if you're not commenting on whether October seven was 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.080 a terror attack, you know it's just. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:54.840 Gone too far. Bron. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.800 When I want to ask you about the Royal visit. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.760 We've obviously seen the King and Queen here this week 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.320 are out on the water on beautiful Sydney Harbor this afternoon. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.120 What do you take away from this trip? 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.800 Well, I think it chose that the King was determined 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.760 to come to Australia, despite his health problems and despite 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.720 cutting it down to basically Sydney and Canberra, that he 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.120 was determined to go to Chogham. But I think his 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.000 affection for Australia is quite genuine, and I think the 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:33.160 Queen really conducted herself quite beautifully through the visit, and 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.040 I think most people were quite chuffed. I was very 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.520 taken actually with an interview with a young boy in 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.160 Canberra who'd been waiting for several hours. He chosen and 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.960 I'm talking about an eighteen year old, and he chosen 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.760 a bouquet of blue flowers because the Queen liked blue 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.440 and he was just going to wait there and see 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:51.480 if you could give him to her. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.520 And it was just a sheer joy. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.400 Of a young man who wanted to see them and 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.680 meet them, and I think that was reflected and all 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.120 this talk about the Republican movement, one third are interested 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.560 in the republic and they can't agree what sort of 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.440 republic they want, so I just don't think it's a 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:08.240 relevant question. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.320 Yeah, the Republican movement, it's off the table. The Prime 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.480 Minister has said as much. I mean, we forget that. Actually, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.160 when he won office he had an assistant Minister for 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.439 the Republic, Matt this Lthwaite. That's how much on the 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.200 agenda having a Republican, a referendum on a republic, on 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.840 monarchy was Nick Keta. Now after the failed Voice referendum, 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:30.400 they don't want to know about it. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.720 No, you wouldn't have recognized him, would you, from the 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.440 Albanese who came to power and promising a referendum on 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.720 the republic in his second term. I was incredibly moved 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.360 by the visit, to be honest. I stood out there 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.320 with some crowds in North Sydney and I just thought 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.360 the sort of people who came out to wave their 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.600 flags were just so pleased to see the king, And 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.040 you know what, I think it is showy. I think 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.400 almost all of us, you know, we've only had the 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.520 Queen Elizabeth for our entire lifetimes and we were nervous 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.040 about the transition of power, but. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:04.440 Very smoothly. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.600 It's in very good hands with King Charles long may 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.919 he live, long, may he reign. And it was just 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:11.320 incredibly happening to see him. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.760 Yeah, and indeed and impressive that he made the visit. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.480 He made the trip out here. He is suffering from cancer. 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.200 Seventeen commitments yesterday, quite an intense trip for him. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.080 Nick cat and Rongan Bishops, So. 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.240 Wonderful to see you both, and plenty more to come 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.520 after the break. I've got news of a secret visit 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.440 that Peter Dutton made while he was here in Sydney. Today, Boy, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.040 I tell you what he is showing up alban Easy 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.159 plus Julian Lisa will join me to speak about the 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.000 anti Semitism that we're seeing across our country. 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:47.080 Stay tuned well. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.720 For over a year now, we've been reporting on the 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.560 disgraceful lack of leadership from state and federal governments and 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:58.480 law enforcement on anti Semitism. But today Peter Dutton went 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.280 above and beyond. Firstly, he committed eight and a half 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.000 million dollars to the Sydney Holocaust Museum, but he then 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:10.800 paid a personal visit without any media present, to Avner's 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:11.959 Bakery in Surrey. 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:12.399 Hills. 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.320 As you know, this was the bakery vandalized by hamas 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:20.120 symbols all because its owner is Jewish. We can bring 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.119 you those photographs now of Peter Dutton at Avner's. 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:24.760 Here he is. 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:28.720 He was accompanied by Roe Knox, the Liberal candidate for Wentworth, 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.159 James Patterson and Julian Lisa, my next guest. But what 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.000 was even more meaningful was the way that Dutton spoke 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:39.600 about the distressing racism we're all witnessing in our country. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.520 Have a look, I've. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:46.680 Said before, and I really feel this profoundly. I look 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.560 much older, but I'm fifty four this year, and in 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.879 my lifetime, this is the most terrific period that I 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.880 can recall in Australia. It's the most shocking and jolting period, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:02.120 and it's so so undeserved, and we need to make 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.840 sure that it provides us with the resolve to make 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.200 sure that better days are ahead, that children can feel safe, 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.320 that armed guards are no longer required places of worship 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:14.400 at synagogues, or at supermarkets, or at schools or preschools. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:15.680 That is not our country. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.640 And Liberlain p Julian and Lisa joins me. Now, Julian, 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.560 you are with Peter Dutton today, he just said, this 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:25.720 is not our country. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.199 You'd agree with that, wouldn't you. 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.880 I couldn't agree more Sharia. And Peter Dutton has been 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.919 so strong and so clear in backing the right of 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.159 ordinary Australians to go about their business. And that's why 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.439 the commitment today for eight and a half million dollars 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.760 towards the fundly the refurbishment of the Jewish Museum and 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.040 the extension of that museum is so important. That museum 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.880 is going to tell an important story about the Jewish community, 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.719 that Jews have been here since the first fleet, and 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.480 that in every imaginable era, in every imaginable area, they flourished, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.880 and they flourished because Australia is the world dolcoming country 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.120 that we know that doesn't judge people on the basis 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.800 of their religious background, that lets people get on with it. 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.760 But what we've seen since the seventh of October last 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.960 year is weakness in leadership from too many people in authority, 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.560 and Peter Dutton has been a man of great moral 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:21.520