Speaker 1: Why on Sky News.
Speaker 2: Sharry Good Evening, And that's a wrap on the leader's debate.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get through tonight.
Speaker 2: But first we just saw Stephen Miles and David Chris
Speaker 2: Fuley go head to head in their last fiery debate
Speaker 2: as they try to win over undecided voters. This was
Speaker 2: a crucial test with Queenslanders heading.
Speaker 1: To the polls in just four days.
Speaker 2: Neither leader could afford a slip up. Now, the polls
Speaker 2: have for some time predicted a landslide win for the NP,
Speaker 2: but Labor just this week is closing the gap. As
Speaker 2: I said, we've got a lot coming up on the
Speaker 2: show tonight. I'm going to tell you about a secret
Speaker 2: visit Peter Dutton made today in Sydney. But first let's
Speaker 2: bring in former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman and former Queensland
Speaker 2: Labor State Secretary Cameron Milner. Now, as I just said,
Speaker 2: polls have shown a tightening, especially in the southeast, so
Speaker 2: this debate really was important. Campbell, who did you give
Speaker 2: it to and why?
Speaker 3: Look, I thought it was even Stevens tonight, But as
Speaker 3: I said, for the first debate, I think Miles has
Speaker 3: a more comfortable Alburt. This is a funny, funny thing
Speaker 3: to say awkward persona, but it is the sort of
Speaker 3: the daggy dad stuff. David is far more intense and
Speaker 3: it's a bit like the famous nineteen sixty debate in
Speaker 3: the US presidential elections between Nixon and Kennedy. If you
Speaker 3: just had the audio, I think David is quite compelling,
Speaker 3: But when you see it on the screen, I think
Speaker 3: Miles looks more approachable, and I think Australians like approachable leaders.
Speaker 3: So I think the other thing that happened tonight is
Speaker 3: I think David Christoph fully skated very close to the
Speaker 3: edge on the abortion issue earlier in the debate, and
Speaker 3: then finally he gave later on in answer to Miles
Speaker 3: direct question, he went, yes, he does support a woman's
Speaker 3: right to choose. If you said that a week ago
Speaker 3: or two weeks ago, perhaps they wouldn't have been hurt
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty two times David Christophooley has failed
Speaker 2: to answer the question about whether he does support women's
Speaker 2: right to choose. This was a big issue not only
Speaker 2: in the debate, but it has been in the Queensland
Speaker 2: state election campaign. Let's have a look at one of
Speaker 2: the most heated moments on this very issue.
Speaker 4: Will be no changes to abortion law, and I want
Speaker 4: Queenslanders to hear that directly from me.
Speaker 5: Can anyone tell from David's answer just then what he
Speaker 5: thinks about this issue?
Speaker 6: I mean, this is this is a really important issue.
Speaker 7: I think it shouldn't change.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows I think it shouldn't.
Speaker 4: Change the law.
Speaker 1: What will remain the same.
Speaker 8: Where you have a conscience spoke, the laws.
Speaker 4: Will remain this view there will do.
Speaker 1: You need no change.
Speaker 4: So the scare campaign will continue, but you need to
Speaker 4: let me direct.
Speaker 1: Let me answer, well, let me answer the question.
Speaker 4: The scare campaign will continue, but it's not happening.
Speaker 6: Give a straight answer.
Speaker 4: Okay, there will be no change, none at all.
Speaker 1: Pro to us a lot.
Speaker 4: There will be no change. The legislation is there and
Speaker 4: women will have access to that legislation that gives women
Speaker 4: the right to choose.
Speaker 2: Cameron Milner, you know this has become such a big issue, clearly,
Speaker 2: you know Stephen Miles care bringing it up in the debate.
Speaker 2: David Crucifoli unequivocal that there'd be no change to the law,
Speaker 2: but he had been reluctant to give his own personal viewpoint.
Speaker 2: Has this been a scare campaign in your opinion?
Speaker 6: Look, I think it's a campaign to a small group
Speaker 6: of people who are motivated by this particular issue. Cost
Speaker 6: of living overwhelmingly is the issue for Queens than's a
Speaker 6: going to vote on youth crime, housing supply.
Speaker 1: So David Chrystophil.
Speaker 6: Has been campaigning on the big issues and Labour's gone
Speaker 6: for a witch a US style smear campaign and fear campaign.
Speaker 6: I don't doubt it's an important issue, but I don't
Speaker 6: think it has a place in queens and politics and
Speaker 6: I don't think that are going after a binary situation
Speaker 6: on what is a very complex issue is up for
Speaker 6: a state campaign. Look, I think the result will tell
Speaker 6: itself on Saturday Night, and I think the L ANDP
Speaker 6: are in for government. I think the change of government's coming.
Speaker 6: Despite the fact that Miles that you've performed really well,
Speaker 6: really well in this campaign, I.
Speaker 2: Actually have to say that I disagree with you Campbell.
Speaker 2: On Stephen Miles's presentation. I thought, no, not you Cameron,
Speaker 2: you Cambell Newman. I've seen his presentation in that debate
Speaker 2: was amateur. He didn't look like a premier. I think
Speaker 2: when he kept saying he.
Speaker 1: Loves the job.
Speaker 2: Well, no one cares if you love the job. People
Speaker 2: Queenslanders care what he's going to do for them. Youth crime,
Speaker 2: as you just said, Cameron, has been such a major issue.
Speaker 2: David chris A fully zeroed in on that in his
Speaker 2: own question to Stephen Miles. He pointed out that there
Speaker 2: have been cases where people have been injured or killed because.
Speaker 1: They were out on bail.
Speaker 2: This is something that is just unforgivable.
Speaker 3: Cambell Newman, Look, well, look that's the point I actually
Speaker 3: am making. And it's like this, if you just had
Speaker 3: the audio, I think David Christopher fully delivered some really
Speaker 3: killer keller blows, apart from not being able to give
Speaker 3: a quick succeed answer earlier debate on the abortion thing.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the problem with it, it's not
Speaker 3: the issue itself, it's just when people are sitting there
Speaker 3: at home seeing that sort of exchange and perhaps that
Speaker 3: will be sharn on the nightly news tomorrow night. It's
Speaker 3: again playing into this thing about sitting on the fence
Speaker 3: and just give a straight answer, and that will motivate
Speaker 3: a bloke who's undersided as much as a woman who
Speaker 3: cares about the issue. But anyway, the audio has Christoph
Speaker 3: fully delivering killer blows. But I actually here's why I
Speaker 3: do disagree with you. I think Stephen Miles comes across
Speaker 3: as the daggy dad. He's someone you can relate to.
Speaker 3: He's awkward, but that's what he's been doing on TikTok
Speaker 3: and other social media channels for months now, and it's
Speaker 3: like this, Shari, it's working. You know, he has improved
Speaker 3: his position through this campaign, and I don't want him
Speaker 3: to improve his position, but it's happening. And I think
Speaker 3: this could be a lot closer than anybody has thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will be a surprise if the
Speaker 2: results are close, because we have been expecting a landslide
Speaker 2: result for the L ANDP for so long. I just
Speaker 2: found the grinning really frustrating, Like why are you grinning
Speaker 2: so much?
Speaker 1: At the premiere?
Speaker 2: And now Paul Murray is going to have a lot
Speaker 2: more on this topic at nine o'clock tonight. He's also
Speaker 2: going to have the results of the People's Forum. Who
Speaker 2: was the winner according to those in the room. But
Speaker 2: before we go, Caaron Milner, you wrote a sensational piece.
Speaker 2: Another sensational piece in the Nightly where you talk about
Speaker 2: Labour's signature future Made in Australia policy. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is twenty two billion dollars in taxpayer funding, yet you
Speaker 2: say it should be known as future made for Mates
Speaker 2: because the taxpayer funds, you say, are only being given
Speaker 2: to a select few, some of whom have been shown
Speaker 2: by Paul Fletcher to have connections to labor figures. Can
Speaker 2: you tell us a bit more about.
Speaker 6: This, Well, it's not future Made for Australia, it's future
Speaker 6: made for mates, as I said. And the first billion
Speaker 6: dollars went to Sundrive, which is backed by a venture
Speaker 6: capital company called Blackbird Ventures. And the next billion dollars
Speaker 6: we're decide Quantum, who no one ever heard of, who'd
Speaker 6: been doing a whole series of secret deals behind the
Speaker 6: scenes to shape up their deal with the government, backed
Speaker 6: again by Blackbird Ventures. There's lots of questions here because
Speaker 6: Blackbird Ventures key partner has been a mate and a
Speaker 6: friend and a colleague of the very minister handing out
Speaker 6: these deals, ed Husick. Ever since twenty fifteen, Nicki Slavic
Speaker 6: has been with Eddie Husick. Now, I think there's lots
Speaker 6: of questions to answer, and I wouldn't be surprised, wouldn't
Speaker 6: be surprised if this all gets referred to the National
Speaker 6: Anti Corruption Commission. That's what I expect.
Speaker 2: That absolutely needs to be an inquiry into this. I've
Speaker 2: had Paul Fletcher on the show to talk about this.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get him on the show again because
Speaker 2: it is a major issue at Cameron Milner, Campbell Newman,
Speaker 2: thank you both so much for your thoughts.
Speaker 1: On that leadership debate.
Speaker 2: Now let's turn to calls for Lydia Thorpe to resign
Speaker 2: after humiliating Australia on the global stage. And this is
Speaker 2: all on the Prime Minister Anthony Alberezi. Shouldn't have invited
Speaker 2: her to attend the prestigious event yesterday where distinguished guests
Speaker 2: were given.
Speaker 1: The opportunity to meet the King and Queen.
Speaker 2: It was utterly predictable that she was going to try
Speaker 2: and ruin it. Lydia Thorpe is a volatile woman who
Speaker 2: caused havoc at the Mardi Gras, outside a strip club,
Speaker 2: in the Senate repeatedly, and on the lawns of Parliament House.
Speaker 2: It would have been a surprise had she not tried
Speaker 2: to make the Royal visit all about herself. As political
Speaker 2: writer Jeff Chambers said today, Lydia Thorpe is a one
Speaker 2: trick pony who craves shameless publicity over substance while pocketing
Speaker 2: a taxpayer funded salary of almost two hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars working in an institution she claims.
Speaker 1: To rage against.
Speaker 2: Now she's given embarrassing television performances in the UK and
Speaker 2: there are now also calls for her to resign, and
Speaker 2: Peter Dartin said today that he thinks there's a case
Speaker 2: for this should she resign.
Speaker 8: I think there's a very strong argument for somebody who
Speaker 8: doesn't believe in the system, but it's willing to take
Speaker 8: quarter of a million dollars a year from the system
Speaker 8: to resign in principle. And if you were really truly
Speaker 8: about your cause and not just about yourself, then I
Speaker 8: think that's a decision that you would make, all right.
Speaker 2: Former Speaker of the House Bronwyn Bishop and senior fellow
Speaker 2: at the Menzies Research Center Nick Kata joined me, Now, Ronwin,
Speaker 2: do you agree with me that this is all on
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. He shouldn't have extended an invite to
Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe when it was obvious this was going to happen.
Speaker 9: Yes, she's a perennial exhibitionist, and I think we've seen
Speaker 9: it in so many areas that she just wants to
Speaker 9: cause a fastened draw attention to herself. I don't even
Speaker 9: think that she's particularly got a cause. I think she
Speaker 9: just likes the attention that comes to her. But the
Speaker 9: thing that really makes me angry is that when she
Speaker 9: took the oath of allegiance, she only did it so
Speaker 9: she could be sworn in and get paid. There's nowhere
Speaker 9: in the world she's going to resign because you know,
Speaker 9: if she's going to pocket another what seven hundred and
Speaker 9: fifty thousand dollars, why would she resign. But the point
Speaker 9: is that I think far too much attention is paid
Speaker 9: to her. Yes, it would have been a good idea
Speaker 9: not to invite her, but it's a bit hard not
Speaker 9: to invite a member of Parliament who's entitled to walk
Speaker 9: the floors of the Parliament and all areas of it.
Speaker 9: But it is to be expected that that's the case.
Speaker 9: But she is really and truly a problem in the
Speaker 9: set itself. If you watch the Senate you'll see that
Speaker 9: it's almost impossible to deal with her because to get
Speaker 9: the numbers to throw her out you have to get
Speaker 9: the Greens to vote against her and all sorts of people,
Speaker 9: so it doesn't happen. But I do think we have
Speaker 9: to remember she was a dei pick by the Greens
Speaker 9: and they're responsible for her being there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately for all of us.
Speaker 2: Right now, Nick Kate, I want to ask you about
Speaker 2: some comments that Matt Kean.
Speaker 1: He used to be the new South Wales Treasurer.
Speaker 2: He's now the Climate Change Authority Chair, handpicked by Anthony
Speaker 2: albit Easy. He has slammed Peter Dutton's plan for nuclear energy.
Speaker 2: He says it's a wild fantasy. Nick, Countries all around
Speaker 2: the world now have nuclear as part of that energy mix.
Speaker 2: So do you think these claims are starting to sound
Speaker 2: quite alarmist.
Speaker 10: Well, they're entirely motivated by self interest. I mean, I
Speaker 10: don't know what Matt King's shareholdings are, what he owes
Speaker 10: the renewable industry lobby or whatever, but the fact is
Speaker 10: that the one organization or the one group of people
Speaker 10: who really really want to keep nuclear out of this
Speaker 10: country are not households who are desperate for secure electricity
Speaker 10: supplies and cheap electricity supplies. It's the renewable industry. It's
Speaker 10: these people who they know their investments will have overnight
Speaker 10: the moment we introduce nuclear power of this country and
Speaker 10: continue to fall. They're the ones out a pure economic
Speaker 10: self interest. And I'm talking about people like Simon Holmes
Speaker 10: of Court, who backs the teals he isn't interested in
Speaker 10: renewable energy. It's that they don't want competition. They want
Speaker 10: to protective market for this hopeless, useless, part time form
Speaker 10: of electricity which is driving us all broke.
Speaker 2: I want to turn to Blackland because we learned today
Speaker 2: that there's another independent Muslim candidate running, this time against
Speaker 2: Jason Clare in the election of Blackland. Now, the candidate
Speaker 2: who's running against him was that offensive opera house rally
Speaker 2: a year ago. He says Israel has committed genocide. He
Speaker 2: wouldn't answer the question when journalists asked him if he
Speaker 2: viewed the October seven massacre as a day of celebration.
Speaker 2: His name is Ahmed uf. He's supported by the Muslim
Speaker 2: Vote Group. He says he can win the next election
Speaker 2: Ron when look, Jason Clair, this is a safe seat
Speaker 2: he holds or he won Blacksland at the last election
Speaker 2: with sixty five percent of the vote, So I don't
Speaker 2: think this candidate has a chance of winning.
Speaker 1: But his views are so deeply offensive.
Speaker 9: I agree with you, and I agree particularly as Jason
Speaker 9: Cleaar had a primary vote of fifty four percent, so
Speaker 9: he's not going to be really in any danger of
Speaker 9: losing that seat. But the important point is that there
Speaker 9: is no leadership from Albernizi at all as to the
Speaker 9: acceptable way in which it has been allowed to praise
Speaker 9: what has been done by Hamas. There is no strength
Speaker 9: in the leadership that says antisemitism must stop. There's been
Speaker 9: no indication to the police that they must arrest people
Speaker 9: when they are behaving in that way as encouraging violence.
Speaker 9: There has got to be a definitive leadership and it's
Speaker 9: only coming from Peter Dutton. It's strong from Peter Dutton,
Speaker 9: and there just doesn't exist from the Albanizi or Miles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about that. Nikita.
Speaker 2: Do you think the rise of these Muslim candidates pose
Speaker 2: a threat to labor in the same way that the
Speaker 2: TiAl movement really decimated the liberal vote.
Speaker 10: I think we won't know until election night, Shari, because
Speaker 10: this is so hard to measure, as we found with
Speaker 10: the tills, it's actually so hard to poll measure. But
Speaker 10: I think it's certainly to my mind, it imposed the
Speaker 10: threat to our democracy. I just hate the idea that
Speaker 10: somebody is standing for a party which has a religious basis.
Speaker 10: You know, that's not what we do in this country.
Speaker 10: Religion should be divorced from politics. It's separate. You're standing
Speaker 10: as a Muslim candidate or as you know, as the
Speaker 10: ethnic candidate. No, you stand as an Australian citizen who
Speaker 10: has committed this country and wants to make it a
Speaker 10: better place. If you're just if you're just there for
Speaker 10: one sectional group, then stay out. So I would rather
Speaker 10: see Labor win this seat than an outright Muslim party.
Speaker 10: I don't know whether this one is, but now right
Speaker 10: Muslim focused party winning I would rather see Labor back
Speaker 10: in to be.
Speaker 2: Honest, Yeah, I don't think it's even about the religion.
Speaker 2: I just think it's about the offensiveness of the views.
Speaker 2: And if you're not commenting on whether October seven was
Speaker 2: a terror attack, you know it's just.
Speaker 1: Gone too far. Bron.
Speaker 2: When I want to ask you about the Royal visit.
Speaker 2: We've obviously seen the King and Queen here this week
Speaker 2: are out on the water on beautiful Sydney Harbor this afternoon.
Speaker 1: What do you take away from this trip?
Speaker 9: Well, I think it chose that the King was determined
Speaker 9: to come to Australia, despite his health problems and despite
Speaker 9: cutting it down to basically Sydney and Canberra, that he
Speaker 9: was determined to go to Chogham. But I think his
Speaker 9: affection for Australia is quite genuine, and I think the
Speaker 9: Queen really conducted herself quite beautifully through the visit, and
Speaker 9: I think most people were quite chuffed. I was very
Speaker 9: taken actually with an interview with a young boy in
Speaker 9: Canberra who'd been waiting for several hours. He chosen and
Speaker 9: I'm talking about an eighteen year old, and he chosen
Speaker 9: a bouquet of blue flowers because the Queen liked blue
Speaker 9: and he was just going to wait there and see
Speaker 9: if you could give him to her.
Speaker 1: And it was just a sheer joy.
Speaker 9: Of a young man who wanted to see them and
Speaker 9: meet them, and I think that was reflected and all
Speaker 9: this talk about the Republican movement, one third are interested
Speaker 9: in the republic and they can't agree what sort of
Speaker 9: republic they want, so I just don't think it's a
Speaker 9: relevant question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Republican movement, it's off the table. The Prime
Speaker 2: Minister has said as much. I mean, we forget that. Actually,
Speaker 2: when he won office he had an assistant Minister for
Speaker 2: the Republic, Matt this Lthwaite. That's how much on the
Speaker 2: agenda having a Republican, a referendum on a republic, on
Speaker 2: monarchy was Nick Keta. Now after the failed Voice referendum,
Speaker 2: they don't want to know about it.
Speaker 10: No, you wouldn't have recognized him, would you, from the
Speaker 10: Albanese who came to power and promising a referendum on
Speaker 10: the republic in his second term. I was incredibly moved
Speaker 10: by the visit, to be honest. I stood out there
Speaker 10: with some crowds in North Sydney and I just thought
Speaker 10: the sort of people who came out to wave their
Speaker 10: flags were just so pleased to see the king, And
Speaker 10: you know what, I think it is showy. I think
Speaker 10: almost all of us, you know, we've only had the
Speaker 10: Queen Elizabeth for our entire lifetimes and we were nervous
Speaker 10: about the transition of power, but.
Speaker 4: Very smoothly.
Speaker 10: It's in very good hands with King Charles long may
Speaker 10: he live, long, may he reign. And it was just
Speaker 10: incredibly happening to see him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and indeed and impressive that he made the visit.
Speaker 2: He made the trip out here. He is suffering from cancer.
Speaker 2: Seventeen commitments yesterday, quite an intense trip for him.
Speaker 1: Nick cat and Rongan Bishops, So.
Speaker 2: Wonderful to see you both, and plenty more to come
Speaker 2: after the break. I've got news of a secret visit
Speaker 2: that Peter Dutton made while he was here in Sydney. Today, Boy,
Speaker 2: I tell you what he is showing up alban Easy
Speaker 2: plus Julian Lisa will join me to speak about the
Speaker 2: anti Semitism that we're seeing across our country.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned well.
Speaker 2: For over a year now, we've been reporting on the
Speaker 2: disgraceful lack of leadership from state and federal governments and
Speaker 2: law enforcement on anti Semitism. But today Peter Dutton went
Speaker 2: above and beyond. Firstly, he committed eight and a half
Speaker 2: million dollars to the Sydney Holocaust Museum, but he then
Speaker 2: paid a personal visit without any media present, to Avner's
Speaker 2: Bakery in Surrey.
Speaker 1: Hills.
Speaker 2: As you know, this was the bakery vandalized by hamas
Speaker 2: symbols all because its owner is Jewish. We can bring
Speaker 2: you those photographs now of Peter Dutton at Avner's.
Speaker 1: Here he is.
Speaker 2: He was accompanied by Roe Knox, the Liberal candidate for Wentworth,
Speaker 2: James Patterson and Julian Lisa, my next guest. But what
Speaker 2: was even more meaningful was the way that Dutton spoke
Speaker 2: about the distressing racism we're all witnessing in our country.
Speaker 1: Have a look, I've.
Speaker 7: Said before, and I really feel this profoundly. I look
Speaker 7: much older, but I'm fifty four this year, and in
Speaker 7: my lifetime, this is the most terrific period that I
Speaker 7: can recall in Australia. It's the most shocking and jolting period,
Speaker 7: and it's so so undeserved, and we need to make
Speaker 7: sure that it provides us with the resolve to make
Speaker 7: sure that better days are ahead, that children can feel safe,
Speaker 7: that armed guards are no longer required places of worship
Speaker 7: at synagogues, or at supermarkets, or at schools or preschools.
Speaker 7: That is not our country.
Speaker 2: And Liberlain p Julian and Lisa joins me. Now, Julian,
Speaker 2: you are with Peter Dutton today, he just said, this
Speaker 2: is not our country.
Speaker 1: You'd agree with that, wouldn't you.
Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more Sharia. And Peter Dutton has been
Speaker 5: so strong and so clear in backing the right of
Speaker 5: ordinary Australians to go about their business. And that's why
Speaker 5: the commitment today for eight and a half million dollars
Speaker 5: towards the fundly the refurbishment of the Jewish Museum and
Speaker 5: the extension of that museum is so important. That museum
Speaker 5: is going to tell an important story about the Jewish community,
Speaker 5: that Jews have been here since the first fleet, and
Speaker 5: that in every imaginable era, in every imaginable area, they flourished,
Speaker 5: and they flourished because Australia is the world dolcoming country
Speaker 5: that we know that doesn't judge people on the basis
Speaker 5: of their religious background, that lets people get on with it.
Speaker 5: But what we've seen since the seventh of October last
Speaker 5: year is weakness in leadership from too many people in authority,
Speaker 5: and Peter Dutton has been a man of great moral
Speaker 5: clarity in calling that out repeatedly, and his commitment today
Speaker 5: to the Jewish Museum is just another instance of his
Speaker 5: clarity in standing with Jewish Australians.
Speaker 2: Julian, I understand that you had an interesting conversation with
Speaker 2: the owner at Avner's Bakery in Surrey Hills today. He
Speaker 2: was feeling optimistic despite the fact that he'd been targeted.
Speaker 1: Because he's Jewish.
Speaker 2: But you pointed out to him as I'm told that
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be facing these attacks at all.
Speaker 1: We haven't had proper leadership.
Speaker 5: Ed is a really remarkable person. He's a person who
Speaker 5: has stood up despite the fact that his business was vandalized,
Speaker 5: not because baker. He's a person who's demonstrated the importance
Speaker 5: of standing your ground and standing strong. And I don't
Speaker 5: think that any Australian should have to put up with
Speaker 5: what he and his bakeries have to put up with.
Speaker 5: And I wish Ed well. I hope more people do
Speaker 5: what to Peter James Ronox than I did today, which
Speaker 5: is go and patronize his bakery, because it's a great
Speaker 5: way of demonstrating to the Jewish community and to Laura
Speaker 5: abiding Australians that the broader community is with.
Speaker 2: Them one hundred percent. I encourage everyone to go. Funnily enough,
Speaker 2: I was on the way there this morning when my
Speaker 2: two year old started falling asleep in the back seat
Speaker 2: and I had to call the trip off. But I
Speaker 2: might have bumped into you that now, Julian. Just finally,
Speaker 2: we saw protesters on Sunday celebrating Sinwa the hamas leader.
Speaker 1: They called him a legend.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with your colleague James Patterson that we
Speaker 2: have a crisis not just of political leadership but law enforcement.
Speaker 5: James Patterson's completely right on this. What we saw with
Speaker 5: the protests at the weekend is exactly the same sort
Speaker 5: of conduct we saw with the protests in favor of
Speaker 5: Hesbalah a few weeks ago. If you list an organization
Speaker 5: as a terrorist organization, that's got to mean something. And
Speaker 5: when you have people displaying symbols evidencing support for those
Speaker 5: people who are engaged in terrorist organizations and they're not
Speaker 5: being bought board in by law enforcement, one has to
Speaker 5: ask what's happening in this country? We need our law
Speaker 5: enforcement officials to enforce the law otherwise, as we've seen
Speaker 5: every day since the ninth of October Opera House protests
Speaker 5: last year, that more and more people keep pushing and
Speaker 5: pushing and pushing and doing worse and worse acts it's
Speaker 5: time that law enforcement officials at the state and federal
Speaker 5: level stepped up to the plate and protected other law
Speaker 5: abiding Australians.
Speaker 1: Well said Julian Lisa.
Speaker 2: And as always, they just have to commend you for
Speaker 2: all the work you're doing on this issue.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Now that's it, that's it for me.
Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock a full hour
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. And right now, here's Paul Murray.