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Speaker 1: Before we start these episode listeners, it's only fair to

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Speaker 1: and it's about some wonderful people who have been affected

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Speaker 1: If you, or anyone you know is affected by these

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Speaker 1: problems of depression and suicidal thoughts, there are links in

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Speaker 1: our description to help with that. And those of you

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Speaker 1: who feel they don't want to listen because it's too harrowing,

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Speaker 1: please feel free to listen to any one of our

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Speaker 1: other four hundred plus episodes. No matter who it happens to,

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Speaker 1: the grief is the same, and that is something I've

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Speaker 1: noticed over all these years of writing about crime and

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Speaker 1: tragedy and punishment. Lightning struck them from a totally cloudless day,

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Speaker 1: their lives. I'm Andrew Rule his Life and Crimes. Today

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about something very serious. In more

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Speaker 1: that causes such a loss, but that's not always true.

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Speaker 1: Although many crimes end in tragedy, not every tragedy is

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Speaker 1: the result of a crime. As police and other first

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Speaker 1: the parents of the dead, no matter who they are.

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Speaker 1: This could be Judy Moran after the death of her

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Speaker 1: was in his thirties, shot dead in front of his

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Speaker 1: And that is something I've noticed over all these years

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Speaker 1: This is the power of the blind impulse that drives suicide.

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Speaker 1: Live for Life in twenty seventeen, and then to become

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Speaker 1: higher in regional areas. Lived for Life emphasizes the three

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Speaker 1: things that parents, family members, teachers, and friends should watch

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Speaker 1: out for. The first is isolation. That sense of isolation

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Speaker 1: The second is what they call burden, a sense of

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Speaker 1: lives the program has saved since that two thousand and

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Speaker 1: prove what hasn't happened, only what has. What has happened

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Speaker 1: dropped steadily. More proof of the program's effect is that

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Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen, it has spread to thirteen shires across Victoria,

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Speaker 1: and it is gradually spreading around the land along the way.

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Speaker 1: It has already trained more than twenty four thousand young

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Speaker 1: and twelve hundred other young people have volunteered to work

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Speaker 1: with peers to save lives. Councils, police and schools are involved,

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Speaker 1: among roughly one hundred and fifty organizations who all take part.

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Speaker 1: The benefits are clear. When a friend pointed out Live

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Speaker 1: for Life to Hamish Blake, the radio and television host

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Speaker 1: and parent, he simply said I'm in. Whatever I can do,

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Speaker 1: I'll help, And so Blake Fronts are Lived for Life.

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Speaker 1: Video clip to give stigmother flick, as he puts it,

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Speaker 1: the world. Back at Macedon, where something good was born

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Speaker 1: from something terrible, Nolin and Marcus Ward are left to

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Speaker 1: had not been struck down by an impulse that no

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Speaker 1: Macedon Ranger's Suicide Prevention Action Group. They liked to talk

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Speaker 1: about their son. When I called them, they were traveling

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Speaker 1: talk to me for half an hour about their boy Liam.

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Speaker 1: If that brings tears and a lump to the throat,

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Speaker 1: so be it. When they talk about him. Sometimes one

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Speaker 1: Liam's school friends and sports team mates. They say that

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Speaker 1: one of them, now father himself, still cries about his mate. Liam.

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Speaker 1: Noline said to me, we're in an exclusive club that

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Speaker 1: her husband Marcus and many others are working to keep

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Speaker 1: the membership down. Thanks for listening. Life and Crimes is

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