Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the handover, Joe. Always delightful to have you and
Speaker 1: the rest of the team with us here on a
Speaker 1: Sunday night. All right, Sunday night, hardcore night. This is
Speaker 1: the one where we tell you the truth, get right
Speaker 1: into the details, and we don't muck around. Okay, we
Speaker 1: don't play.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Up here we're counting every grain of sand on the
Speaker 1: beach and the lead up to the election. We'll do
Speaker 1: that with state of the race in a second. The
Speaker 1: plan to make beer cheaper by getting rid of the
Speaker 1: tax of the pub. I've been banging on about it
Speaker 1: for a while and I'm an on drinker. That's how
Speaker 1: how obvious it is. And the ABC actually calls out
Speaker 1: the Labor Party for its latest load off. But first,
Speaker 1: a story that we all know is how we started
Speaker 1: our year, which was some pretty terrible weather in North Queensland, floods,
Speaker 1: all sorts of issues that are happening there. Well, there's
Speaker 1: a follow up, and very rarely does the Australian media
Speaker 1: ever follow up, They ever go back to the same
Speaker 1: story that they go wall to war with. Well, I
Speaker 1: want to go back to it. Now because there's no
Speaker 1: food in some parts of Queensland because they are cut
Speaker 1: off from roads. Now, this is some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that's been popping up on social media. Now, this is,
Speaker 1: by the way, not some far flung thing at the
Speaker 1: back of the proverbial burk, even though it's in New
Speaker 1: South Wales. This is in Cans Okay, this is what
Speaker 1: is happening right now. And we're talking about when people
Speaker 1: wear nuts about toot paper during the wuflu. We are
Speaker 1: talking about people's access to the basics. Now, what really
Speaker 1: gets me about this is that, oh, we can fly
Speaker 1: politicians into the area. They can go and point at
Speaker 1: things and show maximum empathy. Well, here's an idea. Rather
Speaker 1: than an air drop of bs and insincere garbage from politicians,
Speaker 1: can we use whatever technologies we get them there to
Speaker 1: get food to people who need it. Now, this has
Speaker 1: been going on for a couple of weeks. Now, now
Speaker 1: I get it impossible to get there by road. I
Speaker 1: heard a supermarket ceo so that they were doing a
Speaker 1: bit when it comes to air drops, but clearly not enough.
Speaker 1: Clearly not okay, how can we not have people in
Speaker 1: the areas that have got excess to be able to
Speaker 1: put it on a boat and land it into a
Speaker 1: place like cans get on this. If the politicians can
Speaker 1: get there to point it a problem, the politicians can
Speaker 1: do something to fix the problem. I've got a bit
Speaker 1: more to say about this this week, including the insurance
Speaker 1: companies in the disgraceful way that they treat people who
Speaker 1: think that they are covered in natural disasters. It won't
Speaker 1: make the lead of the six pre mews, it won't
Speaker 1: go anywhere near the front page. But I care, you care,
Speaker 1: which is why it will stay towards the top of
Speaker 1: this program. But first, let us get to the obvious here,
Speaker 1: which is the latest opinion polls that you've heard about
Speaker 1: all day. In fact, the media are quite excited because
Speaker 1: there's a chance of a change of government tonight.
Speaker 2: The Yugov pole of forty thousand voters has the Coalition
Speaker 2: ahead fifty one point one percent to forty eight point nine.
Speaker 3: The modeling suggests a strong electoral advantage for the opposition.
Speaker 1: New red Bridge pole of twenty key marginal seats shows
Speaker 1: the Coalition ahead fifty two to forty eight to three
Speaker 1: percent swing. All right, you may have heard that already ready.
Speaker 1: Than the papers today let's get into the detail then
Speaker 1: what it all means with a cause and with Kroger
Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes time, so two party preferred
Speaker 1: fifty two forty eight. Now this is an interesting rolling pole. See,
Speaker 1: both major political parties have a thing called a tracking pole.
Speaker 1: This is where they have a look at twenty key seats,
Speaker 1: maybe a little more, maybe a little less, and they
Speaker 1: get data back each and every day about how they're doing.
Speaker 1: I remember the inside word and the tracking pole of
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen federal election was that the only time
Speaker 1: they had a four in front of it was the
Speaker 1: final days of the campaign. Okay, so for them to
Speaker 1: have a strong vote at this point in time is
Speaker 1: really important. Now, marginal seatpoling and seatpolling can be very difficult.
Speaker 1: But they say, the people that are behind all of this,
Speaker 1: that there is much in these stats. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: it with Coz whose company Redbridge is in part of
Speaker 1: all of this in a moment or two times at
Speaker 1: fifty two to forty eight in terms of the primary
Speaker 1: vote in these twenty seats that matter, so it might
Speaker 1: be slightly higher than the national numbers or slightly lower
Speaker 1: than national numbers, depending on whom you wish to vote for.
Speaker 1: But if all of these twenty seats follow this, then
Speaker 1: were the four in front of it, the Liberal Party
Speaker 1: would be in a position to get very close to,
Speaker 1: if not win, an election forty three to thirty three,
Speaker 1: huge huge margin. As for the Greens at twelve and
Speaker 1: others stubbornly sitting around at twelve. Now that other factor
Speaker 1: are things like teals and all the rest of it,
Speaker 1: but obviously they are not counted in the overall twenty
Speaker 1: seats that are mattering. Is so, yes, there is an
Speaker 1: independent vote that's floating, but it's not as keen as
Speaker 1: some may see. The good news out of all of
Speaker 1: these polls and apparently they're going to be updated I
Speaker 1: think weekly, which means like a version this every week
Speaker 1: between now and the election. The best news for Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton in all of this is that the Liberal Party
Speaker 1: is leading on two party preferred in a big way
Speaker 1: in Victoria. In fact, they are small in Victoria and
Speaker 1: way ahead in New South Wales. That's where most of
Speaker 1: these twenty seats are and that's why the predictions are
Speaker 1: the way that they seem right now. In fact, in
Speaker 1: Victoria it's fifty eight to forty two in favor of
Speaker 1: the Libs. Right now, New South Wales fifty three to
Speaker 1: forty seven. If you are looking for the silver lining
Speaker 1: and the prime Minister's support, the Prime Minister is leading
Speaker 1: with the so called soft or leaning voters, so people
Speaker 1: have already got a hardcore idea of which way they're
Speaker 1: going to vote. That is a very strong lead for
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party right now. But remember compulsory voting means
Speaker 1: that soft or leaning voters are ultimately where all of
Speaker 1: this is decided. So that's how we start to get
Speaker 1: to the game of fifty to fifty. Meantime, the Labor
Speaker 1: Party is in front in the two party preferred of
Speaker 1: fifty seven forty three in the quote unquote other or
Speaker 1: smaller states. There are marginal seats in South Australia, Western Australia, Tasmania,
Speaker 1: two up for grabs in the Northern Territory. So if
Speaker 1: Labor is really in front in those places, then basically
Speaker 1: the election and the big movement predicted in these polls, well,
Speaker 1: it ends up coming down to essentially New South Wales
Speaker 1: and Victoria. Now, as for the other pole that was
Speaker 1: around today, and there is a lot more granular detail
Speaker 1: in this that I know you can handle. That, I
Speaker 1: know you can follow. Remember the book he's saying, the
Speaker 1: change of governments still the favorite position right here. So
Speaker 1: if you want to follow the bookies, nothing's changed in
Speaker 1: the past week. In fact, things have got slightly better
Speaker 1: for Peter Dutton. Even the ABC had to through very
Speaker 1: twisted fingers right today that Peter Dutton was the most
Speaker 1: likely to become the next Prime minister according to this
Speaker 1: hyugav poll. Now, may I be the first to show
Speaker 1: you the fancy graphics of the Sky News and the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five election. Now, as you know, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty seats in the Parliament. Currently the government has
Speaker 1: more than seventy six, which means they have a majority.
Speaker 1: But but, but but if this pole was true, the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party and National Party get together to get seventy
Speaker 1: three seats, meaning they only need to go shopping for
Speaker 1: three more seats to form a government. In truth, they
Speaker 1: probably need four more seats or cross benches to help them,
Speaker 1: because you have to find a speaker. The Labor Party
Speaker 1: would be ten short, and theoretically if the Greens got
Speaker 1: together with the Independence to help the existing government, they
Speaker 1: would be returned but it would basically be every vote
Speaker 1: is right down to the wire. Now where are the
Speaker 1: seats and what are the margins? How did they get
Speaker 1: to this number? Now there is a number that suggests
Speaker 1: that the high water mark if the Liberal Party vote
Speaker 1: is currently being undercounted, it could get as high as
Speaker 1: eighty seats. If that's the case, then of course they
Speaker 1: become a majority. If it's lower than obviously it's going
Speaker 1: to be more like sixty three seats. But interestingly, with
Speaker 1: those polls, because I've tried to double check this to
Speaker 1: show you the comparison between if they're overcounting the Liberal
Speaker 1: vote or undercanting the Liberal vote, those add up to
Speaker 1: more or less than one hundred and fifty seats in
Speaker 1: the parliament. The only one that actually gets you to
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty is that number that I have
Speaker 1: just shown you. So all of these would be changes
Speaker 1: from the Labor Party to the Liberal Party, nothing else.
Speaker 1: These would be the change. You can see the margins
Speaker 1: there pretty healthy as we start to get our way
Speaker 1: towards lions. So there's eight that would be there in
Speaker 1: Aston in Victoria, Gilmore, New South Wales, Bullwinkle, that's a
Speaker 1: new seat in Western Australia. McEwen in Victoria, Robertson on
Speaker 1: the central coast in New South Wales, been Along in
Speaker 1: the northwest of Sydney. Now that's a place which the
Speaker 1: Labor Party won by I think about one thousand votes,
Speaker 1: so that moving pretty hard. Is interesting to see the
Speaker 1: seat of Chisholm, significant Chinese population there. Whether their vote
Speaker 1: will move well, that'll determine whether that seat moves or not.
Speaker 1: They are throwing a star candidate the Labor Party at
Speaker 1: the Lions election, but that would suggest that if the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party can take that, then they would have both
Speaker 1: Bass and Lions, so that have the top left and
Speaker 1: the middle. On the eastern side of Tasmania. We keep
Speaker 1: going here to Tanging in Western Australia, Hunter where are
Speaker 1: were Shortland Patterson mcquarie and amazingly eden Manaro. Now eden
Speaker 1: Manara used to be used to be the swing seat.
Speaker 1: Remember whichever way it voted the election went as well well.
Speaker 1: As you know. Christy McBain, who is I think the
Speaker 1: local government minister federally. I think she's a star and
Speaker 1: she could end up being a leader one day. She's
Speaker 1: doing some goofy stuff on social media that I'll show
Speaker 1: you in a second. But if her seat disappears, well,
Speaker 1: then that's going to be a sign of even greater
Speaker 1: problems potentially for the Labor Party. I'm nervous about saying
Speaker 1: that I'd put any greater stock than just good to
Speaker 1: know in this poll, because a little bit white whale
Speaker 1: has been that the Liberal Party's going to win Hunter
Speaker 1: or the Nats are going to win Hunter. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a white whale where are and even
Speaker 1: places like Mcquarie. Now Mcquarie is up towards the Blue
Speaker 1: Mountains of New South Wales. Now that is a place
Speaker 1: that has been trending way far to the left. In fact,
Speaker 1: it was a marginal seat in twenty nineteen. The Lips
Speaker 1: thought they might be able to have a crack at it.
Speaker 1: It ended up going tighter to Labor in that nineteen election,
Speaker 1: tighter to Labor in twenty two. So for them to
Speaker 1: be talking about seventy three seats that we're right on
Speaker 1: the tippy toes of what might be possible. Two other
Speaker 1: things to know about the pole. This is the Yugov pole,
Speaker 1: which was the one that the headlines were mostly focused
Speaker 1: on today. No Teals would lose their seats. That's what
Speaker 1: makes me think it's difficult for the coalition to get
Speaker 1: there unless there is some revolution happening in the suburbs. Now,
Speaker 1: you know that's where we live. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: we know. So I don't have any real insight onto
Speaker 1: the teal world. I've only live there and live in
Speaker 1: suburban women. I know suburban people are quite peed off.
Speaker 1: But the three seats the Greens would lose, which would
Speaker 1: be in and around central Brisbane, they go back to Labor.
Speaker 1: So I've got to say I'm not entirely sure how
Speaker 1: the Labor Party gains three seats but losers seats like Eden,
Speaker 1: Manaro and Macquarie let alone, Patterson, Shortland and Hunters. So
Speaker 1: I think this might be slightly overcooking it at seventy
Speaker 1: three seats, but apparently it is mirroring the internal polling
Speaker 1: of the Liberal Party. Peter Dutton, who will be on
Speaker 1: sixty minutes, will we'll show you some highlights of that
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Well, he's been very direct in the interviews
Speaker 1: that he's done both with According and Male over the
Speaker 1: weekend and this morning with our mate Andrew Clonel that
Speaker 1: he thinks not we might but we will win.
Speaker 4: There's no doubt in my mind that we can win
Speaker 4: the election. I've been in marginal campaigns for the last
Speaker 4: quarter of a century. Not only do I think we
Speaker 4: can win, but more importantly, I think we can serve
Speaker 4: the country well.
Speaker 1: He's also speaking to that Teal effect that most likely
Speaker 1: if the Teals are returned to Parliament, he doesn't expect
Speaker 1: them to back in the party that used to hold
Speaker 1: their seats, because of course these people are basically green.
Speaker 1: Teal is a shade of green more notably than a
Speaker 1: color of blue. So he thinks that basically he's got
Speaker 1: to be in the very close to, if not over
Speaker 1: the line of seventy six to actually be the next PM.
Speaker 1: We'll talk with the cross Bench, but I can promise
Speaker 1: you that it's clear from their voting pattern Kate Shaney,
Speaker 1: Zoe Daniel Menique Ryant eighty percent of the time they
Speaker 1: support the Greens in so then it's never coming in
Speaker 1: all they will never come our way. All right, cost
Speaker 1: of living the a grade issue of the election. You
Speaker 1: know that this has been the show that has relentlessly
Speaker 1: talked about it, not when it was just in the news,
Speaker 1: but every day because it's been such a punish for people,
Speaker 1: from three million people being this close to homelessness, to
Speaker 1: three and a bit million people who don't know where
Speaker 1: their food's going to come from, to the millions of
Speaker 1: people who've ridden the interest rates and the python which
Speaker 1: has taken tens of thousands of dollars out of the
Speaker 1: money they already had, all as a result of this government.
Speaker 1: So good luck what happens when it comes to rates
Speaker 1: coming down by one hundred and fifty bucks maybe later
Speaker 1: this week, and new pole tells us what we've already known.
Speaker 1: It is the number one issue, It is the number
Speaker 1: two issue, It is the number three issue for people,
Speaker 1: which means overall it is the issue of the campaign.
Speaker 5: According to the latest True Issues survey, eighty percent of
Speaker 5: voters still say cost of living is their biggest concern,
Speaker 5: far ahead of healthcare and housing, placing energy last.
Speaker 1: Obviously, for most people, they view that through groceries. Now,
Speaker 1: remember the reality of inflation is that you add this
Speaker 1: month to last month, the last month, the last month
Speaker 1: to last month, to go back and have a look
Speaker 1: at basically twenty percent increases in things. Now, yes, the
Speaker 1: amount that this month is more than last month might
Speaker 1: be smaller than the amount from six months ago to
Speaker 1: seven months ago. But the point is that people only
Speaker 1: ride that roller coaster. It has only gone up and
Speaker 1: it only continues to go up. So interestingly, Coles gave
Speaker 1: some information to the Australian newspaper over the weekend about
Speaker 1: what people are doing. Sixty seven percent of people are
Speaker 1: cutting back on eating out, fifty eight percent of people
Speaker 1: are trying to buy things that are discounted inside of
Speaker 1: the store or or forty six percent of people are
Speaker 1: trying to go and find those cheaper brands. So good
Speaker 1: luck when the Prime Minister wants to tell us that
Speaker 1: we've turned the corner. Everything is awesome if you aren't
Speaker 1: buying what you were able to buy before this bloke
Speaker 1: became the prime minister. If you are paying tens of
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars more for your mortgage than before this
Speaker 1: bloke became prime minister, remember what their promise was. Their
Speaker 1: promise was that a labor government would lie the cost
Speaker 1: of living where for who? Even the people that they
Speaker 1: tout as being supposedly better off, they are not better
Speaker 1: off competed to where they were a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: which means it's time to do the Jedi mind trick.
Speaker 1: Let's change the subject if they possibly can. In the
Speaker 1: very same story where it showed the extreme majority of
Speaker 1: Australian's number one concern was cost of living, this is
Speaker 1: labor trying to revive the garbage from the two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen election around medicare.
Speaker 6: If you never want to upset Peter Dunton, wave this
Speaker 6: in his face.
Speaker 2: It's like garlic at a vampire because he hates Medicare.
Speaker 1: And Christy McBain. Despite the fact that I think that
Speaker 1: she's got the suburban touch. I think she can be
Speaker 1: quite a star. She is playing along with every other
Speaker 1: labor MP. This is what they do, by the way,
Speaker 1: when they're at work, when you send them to Canberra.
Speaker 1: This is them sort of doing bad street theater and
Speaker 1: releasing it on the internet.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Dan, you can trust me.
Speaker 1: That's what will happen to Medicare if Peter Dutton and
Speaker 1: the Liberals like they bus, they not like us, all right,
Speaker 1: So let's call bullshit. Let me show you why this
Speaker 1: is garbage. Believe it or not, it was the ABC,
Speaker 1: the ABC who have called this out as a lie.
Speaker 1: What you're about to see is what the labor parties say,
Speaker 1: is the words from Peter Dutton way back when that
Speaker 1: mean he hates Medicare. Then the ABC will point out
Speaker 1: how they had been selectively edited, literally ripping a sentence
Speaker 1: in half. This is the base of the labor lie
Speaker 1: on Medicare. We're very clear about this.
Speaker 4: Medicare is dead. They can't be for free. We have
Speaker 4: to pay for a world class medical system.
Speaker 8: The thing is his words have been taken completely out
Speaker 8: of context. It's a labor attack ad that's selectively edited
Speaker 8: a twenty fourteen press conference to twist Peter Dutton's words.
Speaker 8: The edited video has been viewed by almost two hundred
Speaker 8: thousand people, but we've found an original version.
Speaker 1: We're very clear about this.
Speaker 4: Medicare is dead if we can't make.
Speaker 1: It sustainable today. Seriously, the ABC is calling labor out
Speaker 1: for line where they literally just chop. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: love to play that game. In fact, we might start
Speaker 1: to do it with albow graps because if that's the standard,
Speaker 1: but well done to at least taxpayer media. Just like
Speaker 1: a broken clock, couple of times a day, or a
Speaker 1: couple of times a week, or a month or a year.
Speaker 1: My favorite conversation of the week that we have about
Speaker 1: politics is the one we're going to have right now.
Speaker 1: Kas Samaris is of course the man in charge of Redbridge.
Speaker 1: They are a polling company Data. They are the ones
Speaker 1: who've got this rolling twenty seats stuff. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: the mechanics of that in a second. And a man
Speaker 1: who's fought many a campaign and talked about many more
Speaker 1: on television and I love watching him each and every time.
Speaker 1: He's done it way back when at Channel nine, but
Speaker 1: more importantly here at Sky News, the great Michael Kroger. Lads, Hello, welcome,
Speaker 1: get a So let's get into these pictures of the
Speaker 1: polls because I'll start with you and the one that
Speaker 1: you're apparently going to be rolling. Is it correct? It's
Speaker 1: twenty marginal seats and you'll check it every week.
Speaker 9: That's right up until the federal elections called. Will will
Speaker 9: probably check it every two weeks. That's not going to
Speaker 9: be long obviously, because I think he's going to call
Speaker 9: it over the next few.
Speaker 10: Weeks, is my gut instinct.
Speaker 9: So once he calls it, we're in the field every
Speaker 9: week and publishing through the news limited papers every week
Speaker 9: to enable Australians to have a very accurate track on
Speaker 9: what the campaign is doing to critical marginal seats. It's
Speaker 9: exactly the same track that the major parties run during
Speaker 9: the election campaign. When I was a former party official,
Speaker 9: this is exactly the track that we ran to basically
Speaker 9: diagnose what the campaign was doing from a labor perspective.
Speaker 1: So that's fascinating to see for once we're actually going
Speaker 1: to share the same data at the shame level of
Speaker 1: the same way. It's going to be great and well
Speaker 1: done for doing it. Well done for Irvis ponting out
Speaker 1: the cash because it's more info helps us here. Also, Michael,
Speaker 1: let's talk about where some of these findings are. Okay,
Speaker 1: if they're undercounting, then we're up towards eighty. If they're undercounting,
Speaker 1: we're more like the high sixties. But apparently the number
Speaker 1: at seventy three, it includes some pretty big gets and
Speaker 1: they're all gets off the Labor Party.
Speaker 2: Well, i's mate, As you know, I've said for months,
Speaker 2: I think that's on seventy two and now there's on
Speaker 2: sixty six. This poll says seventy three to sixty six,
Speaker 2: so it's taken them a while to catch up with
Speaker 2: the Paul Murray show. But I think it's a out
Speaker 2: right I think it's about right. I mean there's zero
Speaker 2: chances of Albanizi winning his own right, let's start with that.
Speaker 2: And I've said for months I think Dutton's favored to win.
Speaker 2: He could get up to a majority in his own right.
Speaker 2: That's that's quite possible. Labor appeared to be in trouble
Speaker 2: in seats around the Hunter now and they're in trouble
Speaker 2: in seats in Victoria around the five to six percent
Speaker 2: mark like Bruce where they're in trouble. So you know,
Speaker 2: Labor have had a to you know, eleven year old
Speaker 2: state government here which is immensely unpopular and New South
Speaker 2: Wales prime ministers are never popular in Victoria, let me
Speaker 2: just say that straight away. So a combination of those
Speaker 2: things and the appalling performance of alban Easy and the
Speaker 2: anti semitism et cetera, cetera, meant that there's a big
Speaker 2: swing on in Victoria. So the question is, you know,
Speaker 2: can Dutton get to seventy six in his own right?
Speaker 2: And he's got a good chance.
Speaker 1: Because let's talk about the upper regions of things here, right,
Speaker 1: I've heard many people from inside the Liberal Party or
Speaker 1: the National Party. So a mate Hunter, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people pissed off up there. Insert the thing this,
Speaker 1: Insert that I've heard the same about Shortland. I've even
Speaker 1: heard the same of course about eden Manero, but they've
Speaker 1: got a pretty high profile minister there. But presumably eden
Speaker 1: Minero is very close to Gilmore. Gilmore was a very
Speaker 1: marginal seat for Labor. But it looks like it should
Speaker 1: be jumping back to the Libs. When you're seeing the data,
Speaker 1: and again you're not twisting it, You're just showing us
Speaker 1: what the numbers are. When you start to see that
Speaker 1: upper edge of stuff, what is that telling you? And
Speaker 1: would you be willing to bet the bedroom of the
Speaker 1: house on it? Yeah?
Speaker 9: I mean we've run our own MRPs and we've already
Speaker 9: gone three last year, and we're going to publish more
Speaker 9: this year in addition to the data, where we're obviously
Speaker 9: publishing through News Limited. And I would say that, you know,
Speaker 9: all those Huntress electorates, maybe Patterson will definitely be line
Speaker 9: ball and contestable. Really, I think the LAB is going
Speaker 9: to get into trouble in traditional out of suburban electorates
Speaker 9: in Sydney and in Melbourne. I'm also in Brisbane, less
Speaker 9: seats like Blair Lions in Tasmania you know, Bullwinkle obviously,
Speaker 9: and Tangy in Western Australia, possibly both being in South Australia.
Speaker 9: And then really I think it's you're not going to
Speaker 9: see many seats be gained by Labor.
Speaker 10: So although you does have the Greens.
Speaker 9: Losing seats to Labor Party, I find that hard to believe.
Speaker 9: I think that the Greens will hold most of their
Speaker 9: political territory.
Speaker 10: They ain't going to grow because they've got their own problems.
Speaker 9: Seat like Griffith's that's that high profile incumbent Green MP
Speaker 9: Max Channeler may unlikely to be losing that seat to
Speaker 9: the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: So really we're.
Speaker 10: Looking at the Labor Party.
Speaker 9: You know, in the mid sixties, maybe Darton will be
Speaker 9: hovering in the high sixties, low seventies. Now I know
Speaker 9: that he says that the Tials won't side with him,
Speaker 9: I wouldn't rule it out.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 9: There is if he gets close enough, it's going to
Speaker 9: be pretty hard for Labor to demand from the cross
Speaker 9: Bench almost in its entirety to side with them and
Speaker 9: hold that government together during the next term. So we're
Speaker 9: going to live in interesting times if this can be
Speaker 9: his trying to continue.
Speaker 1: Now, Michael, one thing that is relentless in the polling
Speaker 1: is the other number. The other number is. You know,
Speaker 1: the first time I saw the other number has been
Speaker 1: quite a significant number was twenty sixteen because of the
Speaker 1: urmal effect and plenty of people who were wanting to
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. That lessened in nineteen. In twenty two,
Speaker 1: the other of course represented everything from Clyde Palmer to
Speaker 1: the Teals. That other number is pretty stubborn. That other
Speaker 1: number is sitting pretty hard. And then once you start
Speaker 1: to get down to some of this seat by said,
Speaker 1: it shows no move in teal Land. Also some of
Speaker 1: the polling. Again, I'm sort of taking a little bit
Speaker 1: from here and a little bit from there, but it's
Speaker 1: talking about how both of the leaders, you know, they're okay,
Speaker 1: but they're not really slamming at home. So what do
Speaker 1: you say to your fellow liberals or whoever might be
Speaker 1: watching trying to get free advice via the television right
Speaker 1: now about how to overcome this bug of the both
Speaker 1: of them they're as bad as each other. Stuff. That
Speaker 1: might be the difference between Albo minority and Dutton minority.
Speaker 2: So you have to talk directly to the working middle class,
Speaker 2: right above the noise the media, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And in politics, what you want is for people to
Speaker 2: sit in the homes and what's your leaders and say,
Speaker 2: I think he thinks, like I think what she thinks like,
Speaker 2: I think what he says, That's exactly what I think.
Speaker 2: And if all you're talking about as a bigger raid
Speaker 2: or a bridge or all these sort of you know,
Speaker 2: allocation of government money is it doesn't make any impression
Speaker 2: on people. People are interested in culture. Who you are,
Speaker 2: what are your values? What do you stand for? We
Speaker 2: saw a recent example of that overseas. Who are you?
Speaker 2: What do you stand for? He thinks like he says
Speaker 2: the things that I think. Say, for example, public servants
Speaker 2: salaries in this country, public service salaries have gone through
Speaker 2: the roof and are at ridiculous levels. Ridiculous levels. The
Speaker 2: prime mister gets four to five hundred, his boss gets
Speaker 2: his underling, the person that reports to him gets a million.
Speaker 2: So these public services. Sure, So the first leader that
Speaker 2: comes out and says we're capping public service salaries, you
Speaker 2: can't get more than the prime minister gets I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: and if you don't like four or five hundred salary,
Speaker 2: go somewhere else. You know, once you start talking that
Speaker 2: language and talk directly to people and they think that's
Speaker 2: exactly what I think. You know, eleven million people come
Speaker 2: into America. Trump says, I'm sorry, we can't have that.
Speaker 2: People think I agree with you, mate, you know, to
Speaker 2: me making.
Speaker 1: And it works. It works to me where it should
Speaker 1: be that It's like, okay, the reason you get paid
Speaker 1: more in the private sector is because the private sector
Speaker 1: is where risk exists. There is no risk in the
Speaker 1: public sector, which means it's harder to sack you. You get
Speaker 1: more superannuation. But the idea you get double the Prime
Speaker 1: minister is cake and eat it too stuff. Can I
Speaker 1: show you just this little moment from the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day. Let's not get too deep into it,
Speaker 1: but there are little moments because obviously my background way
Speaker 1: back when was in FM radio, right, and obviously compulsory
Speaker 1: voting means I love everyone who's here and we're counting
Speaker 1: the grains of sand all the rest of it. But
Speaker 1: then of course there are other people who you know,
Speaker 1: what about maths last night? How good the foot are
Speaker 1: you going to be? You know listening to listening to
Speaker 1: Kyle right, all of that stuff, and there are little
Speaker 1: moments where those people see an example of the leaders.
Speaker 1: All right, certainly we know ukuleles and all the rest
Speaker 1: of from the last election, but what about this from
Speaker 1: the Prime minister on Valentine's Day?
Speaker 11: Have a look, roses are read violence of It's Valentine's
Speaker 11: Day and we love loop Pola.
Speaker 1: Workingeez, because I can feel your cringe from here, my friend.
Speaker 1: That is the sort of sad am I right that
Speaker 1: there is stuff that compulsory voter land sees that that
Speaker 1: can be just as devastating as your election costings.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Look, fundamentally, the problem Labor's got is they have
Speaker 9: a Prime Minister who has low levels of what we
Speaker 9: will define campaign IQ.
Speaker 10: And unlike twenty twenty two, they can't hide.
Speaker 1: Him, right, So trying to week off with COVID, we're.
Speaker 9: Not going to be able to hide him this time
Speaker 9: and he's going to be front and center of their
Speaker 9: campaign and have to work out a way to actually
Speaker 9: try to get his mojo working.
Speaker 10: He never had it, right, Our leaders have got that
Speaker 10: are really skilled at.
Speaker 9: Winning, winning, winning, campaigns selling that, as you rightly pointed out,
Speaker 9: as Michael pulled out as well cultural connection and emotional
Speaker 9: inconnection between voters and what you were talking about.
Speaker 10: If you can come across a wood like that, it's
Speaker 10: not a good start.
Speaker 1: But also feel free to actually get the palm to rhyme.
Speaker 1: It's not hard. Okay, you just put two in at
Speaker 1: the end. But you know, I don't want to give
Speaker 1: the free advice, Michael. The funding changes that went through
Speaker 1: the Federal Parliament, I read, oh, this could be a
Speaker 1: great problem for the teals, but my memory of the
Speaker 1: detail is that none of this kicks in until the
Speaker 1: next election, not this election. So it's still jogon for them,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, don't worry about it. You will worry about
Speaker 2: it after the next election.
Speaker 1: Mate.
Speaker 2: That's the answer to that question. But look, let's go
Speaker 2: back to albow. Mate, here's the truth of the matter, right,
Speaker 2: no matter, no, no, I do. We'll have a look
Speaker 2: at the blake and the sunglasses by the way on elbows, right,
Speaker 2: have me show it again. Look and see how impressed
Speaker 2: that Blake is. He's thinking, I've got an absolute clot
Speaker 2: next to me, and he's been paid five hundred. So
Speaker 2: so look, the truth of the matters is Albow is
Speaker 2: a number eight batsman who's opening the batting.
Speaker 6: That's mate.
Speaker 2: That is that is the problem, right, that's the problem
Speaker 2: the Labor Party have got. Where would this bloke bat
Speaker 2: in the Hawk government? Right, he wouldn't even he wouldn't
Speaker 2: even be twelfth man. He'd be a backbencher in the
Speaker 2: Hawk government. You know that. That's the problem man. And
Speaker 2: they can't change him. They're stuck with him and these silly,
Speaker 2: cringeworthy things he does, so just not impressing people. I mean,
Speaker 2: there is he said there was a cost of living
Speaker 2: crisis that was crowded by Scott and Josh Freedenberg and
Speaker 2: he would fix it. That's why I got elected. That's
Speaker 2: why I got elected. The two seventy five et cetera.
Speaker 2: And people do know that was absolute rubbish. He had
Speaker 2: no plan, no idea. He was just desperate to get
Speaker 2: into government. He got into government and where people said,
Speaker 2: where is there two seventy five? No, they got they
Speaker 2: got a thousand, not two seventy five. A thousand extra,
Speaker 2: not a refund. So he's out of his depth. He's
Speaker 2: a poor you know, he's a poor prime minister. You
Speaker 2: look at that Ryan Park is it the new South
Speaker 2: Wales health minister the other day just on another issue,
Speaker 2: the passion with which he spoke about anti semitism with
Speaker 2: that hospital. And then Albo gets up and you just
Speaker 2: see this plotter, you know, reading lines that his staff
Speaker 2: have written for him. Wait till a public workout, mate,
Speaker 2: that albow Super. The IPA did some work on this
Speaker 2: last year. The elbow super for the rest of his
Speaker 2: life is three hundred thousand dollars a year tax to
Speaker 2: ten percent. Wait till a public get onto that, mate,
Speaker 2: three hundred large tax to ten percent. That's not exact
Speaker 2: because there's numbers you can't even find these, notmbers. That's
Speaker 2: what it appears to be. Three hundred thousand a year
Speaker 2: for life, tax to ten percent. So if Albo loses,
Speaker 2: it'll be Siinar everybody and he's off to the beach house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't forge it was one hundred and forty thousand.
Speaker 2: Without without it, all the rest of you, without a
Speaker 2: windmill out the front of his place.
Speaker 1: Correct, All right now? My mum said, I love that
Speaker 1: thing you do on Sunday nights when you talk to
Speaker 1: the political people but can you end the segment by
Speaker 1: just asking them, is there any final thoughts, anything that
Speaker 1: we've left on the table, because my mum wants to
Speaker 1: know anything else on your mind we need to be
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Look, I mean the bottom line is that the next
Speaker 9: election is going to be won and lost in the
Speaker 9: outer suburbs and regions of this country.
Speaker 1: It is where people have.
Speaker 10: Suffered the most.
Speaker 9: But I will make the point about interest rate cuts
Speaker 9: that are coming up, potentially coming up. Other Labor Party's
Speaker 9: put a lot of stock into that. I think they're
Speaker 9: going to be really cautious here because a lot of
Speaker 9: Australians out there feel like they've been doing it tough
Speaker 9: and if the rate does drop, it's because of their
Speaker 9: hard work. That's the sort of feedback we're getting at
Speaker 9: the moment in the elector and that is, you know,
Speaker 9: if it goes down, it's because we've been smashed.
Speaker 10: And the other point I like to make here is.
Speaker 9: Millions of Australians have had their savings obliterated over the
Speaker 9: last two years. That aspiration has been wiped out. It's
Speaker 9: going to take a lot of the families used to
Speaker 9: recover from So I don't think that that potential rate
Speaker 9: cup is going to be a silver bullet there some
Speaker 9: some people in the labor camp are hoping.
Speaker 1: For well and also a number that I've been ramming
Speaker 1: down people's throats. But it's still important to note, right,
Speaker 1: if you've got four hundred thousand dollars loan, you've had
Speaker 1: to pay an extra for nine hundred and forty dollars
Speaker 1: to repay that loan each year since they came to
Speaker 1: office eight d twenty nine, one point two million, forty
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars. Good luck telling them all, but next
Speaker 1: month one hundred and fifty bucks. Maybe if that ain't
Speaker 1: going to wash them with you, Michael, final thoughts do
Speaker 1: it for mum?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Now, I tell you a mum that I agree with
Speaker 2: Coz completely. I think he's analysis quite right of the
Speaker 2: interest rate reduction, which looks as if it's coming this
Speaker 2: week percent. The other problem, over god is, even if
Speaker 2: there is a reduction, Mate, you've got you've got a
Speaker 2: treasurer who's who's nowhere? Where is Jim Charmers, right, he's
Speaker 2: nowhere in the national debate. You've got someone selling the
Speaker 2: benefit of the interst rate reduction, who's just a commentator?
Speaker 2: If it was keeping, he would have an impact. But
Speaker 2: Jim doesn't touch the sides with the electorate. That's the
Speaker 2: other problem they be have. And anyway, I wish your
Speaker 2: mum a good night mate.
Speaker 1: All right, jud We love you Wayne sitting next to
Speaker 1: all the best. Thank you guys, do appreciate it. See
Speaker 1: you next week. Shout out for mums. We always love that.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. All right, quick break back with more,
Speaker 1: some bold predictions for the weak ahead and a great idea.
Speaker 1: Finally someone hearing the call about the extra taxes on
Speaker 1: things like booze more in a sec roses a retinak.
Speaker 1: Imagine doing that over and over and over again. Hey,
Speaker 1: this summon's coming up on Thursday. Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Make sure that you keep an eye scoy on news
Speaker 1: dot com dot au for who is going to be
Speaker 1: part of it. Looking forward to that. Now, let us
Speaker 1: get into the conversation right now. Linda Scott labor to
Speaker 1: her bootstraps, but she's free to say exactly what she thinks,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure tonight will be finally calling bs on
Speaker 1: elbow and the wonderful James astually of course, So with
Speaker 1: one nation joining us now from the beautiful part of
Speaker 1: Australia known as your poon. So free kick to you
Speaker 1: off the start here mate one nation and Pauline I
Speaker 1: love we talked to her last week, right. I love
Speaker 1: that you're putting the ball on the tee. You're telling
Speaker 1: people what some of the ideas are telling people up front. Hay.
Speaker 1: There are people to vote for who agree with many
Speaker 1: of the ideas that are discussed on things like this program,
Speaker 1: like about the tax situation and now let's not have
Speaker 1: the excise tax on beer, on wine, on spirits when
Speaker 1: you buy it at the pub.
Speaker 6: I promised you this last week.
Speaker 12: Paul I said the hospitality industry was in for a
Speaker 12: wind but more so the public. And the big thing
Speaker 12: here is we're seeing people, you know, the numbers dwindle
Speaker 12: within our pubs, clubs, restaurants and rosls, the surf clubs
Speaker 12: out there. And why is that because but if you
Speaker 12: go to the pub these days, everybody who buys a
Speaker 12: schooner of beer these days, unless you're up in the
Speaker 12: NT only by a middies or small pots because it's
Speaker 12: two bloody hot up there. But you'll know you'll pay
Speaker 12: twelve to fourteen bucks for a schooner and this is
Speaker 12: why less and less people are going to pubs. It's
Speaker 12: even more if you want to buy a rum and coke,
Speaker 12: as you've been banging on about for ages those with
Speaker 12: those bottles that you buy through the drive through. But
Speaker 12: the government isn't going to take much of a haircut here.
Speaker 12: But this will certainly inspire people to get back out there.
Speaker 1: Mate.
Speaker 12: I actually want people off dating apps. I want them
Speaker 12: to go to the pub and meet people the old
Speaker 12: original way.
Speaker 6: It's a safer environment for young people to go. They
Speaker 6: can have a beer, they.
Speaker 12: Can you know, they've got responsible service of alcohol and
Speaker 12: pubs and clubs. They've got security cameras, they've got entertainment.
Speaker 6: I want to see bands.
Speaker 12: Back in pubs, but the only way you're going to
Speaker 12: do that is if you make it cheap enough for
Speaker 12: people to go back to the pub. And I also
Speaker 12: want to make it more encouraging, and so does the
Speaker 12: One Nation Party for people to drink alcohol instead of
Speaker 12: take drugs.
Speaker 6: We've gone so far.
Speaker 12: Now where it's cheaper to go and buy an ecstasy
Speaker 12: tablet than what it is to go and have a
Speaker 12: pint of beer.
Speaker 6: It's just outrageous.
Speaker 12: So this is something we've promised voters, if we held
Speaker 12: that balance of power after this next election, we're going
Speaker 12: to scrap the tax on alcohol in venues across the country.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, Linda, What could possibly
Speaker 1: be the problem here?
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he's just got to explain what else
Speaker 3: is going to cut to pay for it and what
Speaker 3: the cost is.
Speaker 7: But you know that would.
Speaker 6: Be far too We've already made those statements.
Speaker 12: There's ninety billion dollars worth of overspending from labor, Linda,
Speaker 12: that we're just going to take away.
Speaker 6: Hell, we'll make sure that you give that money back to.
Speaker 7: Pin on education.
Speaker 12: Is that no Indigenous groups where there's a we've seen
Speaker 12: the wasted money in duplication and indigenous groups across the country.
Speaker 12: We certainly don't want to take Nina campaign against community
Speaker 12: and peace. I don't try and put that back onto us. Well, No,
Speaker 12: there's already duplications. So we've got states looking after indigenous
Speaker 12: and Labour's duplicated that to the turn of around forty
Speaker 12: billion dollars a year. And I think a program the
Speaker 12: show goes on.
Speaker 1: He's already said, he's already said that there's plenty there,
Speaker 1: there's billions anyway, but your thoughts about the idea of
Speaker 1: what had.
Speaker 6: To send you our policies.
Speaker 1: There you go. Sixty three percent of a bottle of
Speaker 1: Bundy is tax, right. I banged on about this and
Speaker 1: in great lengthy detail. Right, Which is that essentially the
Speaker 1: actual only reason that the federal government so it is
Speaker 1: in a surplus. And people say, oh, it's because of
Speaker 1: the mining industry. Yes, absolutely, but the actual difference between
Speaker 1: almost a surplus and a surplus are vice taxes. Now,
Speaker 1: to me, we all understand clipping the ticket. This is
Speaker 1: part of what government does. But surely we've lost the
Speaker 1: plot when a bottle of rum is sixty three percent tax.
Speaker 3: Linder, Well, I don't know exactly what the tax is
Speaker 3: on a bottle of rum, Paul, but I do know
Speaker 3: that the fact is that when you don't have taxes
Speaker 3: that cover the cost of the healthcare for some of
Speaker 3: these kinds of items, then it's very, very hard to
Speaker 3: pay for them. And Australia does want to prevent the
Speaker 3: degradation of Medicare. The Labor government does want to protect Medicare.
Speaker 3: They do want to protect those services, and they do
Speaker 3: want to protect Bundy.
Speaker 12: We'll take it from the foreign aid budget. That's that's
Speaker 12: a simple one. That'll say to six billion as this
Speaker 12: is only going to cost one and I think every
Speaker 12: viewer out there would be very happy to see the
Speaker 12: foreign aid budget cut because it's not going to good causes.
Speaker 12: We've saying that six hundred million dollars from your mob
Speaker 12: to go and put a football stadium up in the
Speaker 12: PNG region.
Speaker 6: What puts that to the Australian people than a stadium.
Speaker 7: In PG regional? Security?
Speaker 6: Football brings on security, good on here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this but isn't this the issue though, Linda?
Speaker 1: Where any government, right, any government understands that you know,
Speaker 1: ten million for this and fifty million for that one
Speaker 1: hundred there's all these reasons why you make the choices, right,
Speaker 1: But once it becomes a giant pot of money, as
Speaker 1: it was when Labor was in opposition, you're able to say, oh,
Speaker 1: trillion dollars worth a debt. Well, everyone knows that a massive, massive, massive, massive,
Speaker 1: massive massive chunk of that was all of the assistance
Speaker 1: that was given to people during a pandemic when they
Speaker 1: couldn't leave the house. Right. Oh, but the line just
Speaker 1: becomes a trillion dollars worth of debt. So This is
Speaker 1: the reality of politics, isn't it When you've done this
Speaker 1: in local council as well, that it's like, okay, you
Speaker 1: can sit there and have a programmatic conversation. But if
Speaker 1: people's perception is I've gone backwards, but you've gone forward,
Speaker 1: and you've gone forward because you haven't pulled your head in,
Speaker 1: doesn't that become a problem for Labe.
Speaker 3: Look, I think what voters expect Paul is going into
Speaker 3: an election with less than one hundred days until the
Speaker 3: federal election, that parties will cost their policies and they'll
Speaker 3: be really transparent about what.
Speaker 7: They will continue and what they won't.
Speaker 3: Now, James has just been transferrent tonight he said he
Speaker 3: cut foreign aid.
Speaker 7: That's new news to me.
Speaker 3: Keen to understand how much and what from. I think
Speaker 3: it is important that Australians understand what political parties are
Speaker 3: planning to do, not just the spicy good news. They've
Speaker 3: also got to understand where the cuts will come from.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately it is the case right now that the Opposition,
Speaker 3: particularly Peter Dutton, has not done that. He's not outlined
Speaker 3: the cuts he's going to make to pay for the
Speaker 3: nuclear power program. He's not outlined the cuts he's going
Speaker 3: to make in order to fund a huge number of
Speaker 3: the promises that he's already made. And that's just not
Speaker 3: telling the truth to the Australian people.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if you were checking it out before.
Speaker 1: I understand if you were studying everything before this segment happened.
Speaker 1: But tonight I showed how even the ABC has called
Speaker 1: out one of the central lies that many an MP
Speaker 1: is saying on the internet, and people are now starting
Speaker 1: to say in public a discourse which is about the OPEDI,
Speaker 1: dut and Medicare all the rest of it, right, James,
Speaker 1: the ABC showed that there is a press statement he
Speaker 1: made in twenty fourteen where the Labor Party has literally
Speaker 1: just cut a sentence in half and then you know,
Speaker 1: like a bad edit, shoved another sentence from somewhere else,
Speaker 1: shove them together like terrible. Right. In fact, let me
Speaker 1: play this for everyone, so everyone's up to date here,
Speaker 1: So you've heard Medicare, Medicare, Medicare. They base it off
Speaker 1: the first grab the ABC calls bullshit, and then you
Speaker 1: see the second have a look, sorry for this, weary.
Speaker 1: We're very clear about this.
Speaker 4: Medicare is dead. They can't be for free. We have
Speaker 4: to pay for a world class medical system.
Speaker 8: The thing is his words have been taken completely out
Speaker 8: of context. It's a labor attack AD that selectively edited
Speaker 8: a twenty fourteen press conference to twist Peter Dutton's words.
Speaker 8: The edited video has been viewed by almost two hundred
Speaker 8: thousand people, but we've found an original version.
Speaker 1: We're very clear about this.
Speaker 4: Medicare is dead if we can't make.
Speaker 1: It sustainable today. Yeah, but James, I mean didn't stop
Speaker 1: all that Garbia. They were play acting in the parliament.
Speaker 1: I mean the ABC actually did its job this third weekend.
Speaker 12: Well, it's still not worth one point one billion for
Speaker 12: that one honest bit of segment. Look, the ABC has
Speaker 12: been guilty of doctoring audio.
Speaker 6: In the past themselves, test in Russell.
Speaker 12: Look, Pauline Hanson put up with this for twenty years
Speaker 12: of her career where things were taken out of context.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 12: The other thing is, you know she spent twenty odd
Speaker 12: years about out of a thirty year political career, trying
Speaker 12: to rewrite history and get not those sound bites, but
Speaker 12: get the full context. She's not a racist, And finally
Speaker 12: we're starting to see everything that she said in the
Speaker 12: past come to fruition. Peter Dutton's going to face these
Speaker 12: challenges unfortunately. But that's all Labor's got.
Speaker 1: Our lies.
Speaker 12: We have suffered this every single election. It doesn't matter
Speaker 12: whether it's a state campaign or a federal The problem
Speaker 12: with a lot of Labor voters they must have believed
Speaker 12: Santa right up until.
Speaker 6: The age of thirty. You know it was real. And
Speaker 6: I know all the kids are in bed to say that, because.
Speaker 12: One day Labor voters will wake up to the fact
Speaker 12: they've been bullshitted to by this party that they've followed
Speaker 12: so blindly most of their working careers and it's only
Speaker 12: when they come close to retirement they go, hang on
Speaker 12: a second, They've lied to me the whole way. This
Speaker 12: is why politics has deteriorated to a point now where
Speaker 12: you know, minor parties like One Nation and the cross
Speaker 12: Bench now are seeing a voter base of around thirty
Speaker 12: three percent.
Speaker 6: They have slid further back from their.
Speaker 12: Original vote that they got at the last election because
Speaker 12: people don't trust either of the two major parties. They
Speaker 12: just make it up as they go and if they
Speaker 12: don't have something to promote, all they do is lie, steal,
Speaker 12: beg and borrow policies from other parties whenever there is
Speaker 12: in the first place.
Speaker 1: Linda is certainly the great difference between some of the many,
Speaker 1: many political lives of the past and today is that
Speaker 1: the capacity for the Internet to correct right. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about you know, the sort of you know, the
Speaker 1: self appointed fact checkcerus. I'm talking about the people that
Speaker 1: go see that video. Let me explain why it's garbage.
Speaker 1: I like to see that sort of stuff and I
Speaker 1: want to see more of that in the election. Your
Speaker 1: response in part to what James said about lifelong labor
Speaker 1: voters being let up the garden path, Look where to begin?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know James doesn't like to look outside Australia,
Speaker 3: but if you look around the world, it is right
Speaker 3: to say that major parties vote and share of the
Speaker 3: voter is declining, and we're seeing parties around the world
Speaker 3: actually reduce their vote. This is a global phenomenon. We're
Speaker 3: also seeing global inflation. Someone's spoke to me and Sydney
Speaker 3: this week, being in England and wanting some proper you
Speaker 3: know when you go to sorry, being in America, she
Speaker 3: wanted a proper cup of tea. She asked for a
Speaker 3: cup of milk for her tea in America, and they
Speaker 3: charged a twenty five US dollars.
Speaker 1: That's why they got rid of the government.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: This was under Trump actually, so.
Speaker 3: It'll change books for a bit of milk.
Speaker 6: Tell me this this week. You and your friends are
Speaker 6: full of it.
Speaker 7: Okay, good for you. Change just make crap up again.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I'm going to take a break because
Speaker 1: there is a newspile which is just dropped by the Australian.
Speaker 1: We will pull that apart for you in a moment's
Speaker 1: time here and give some bold predictions more on a secure,
Speaker 1: on a spicy. We're kind of working blue tonight. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry here on Paul Mary life. All right, thank you
Speaker 1: very much for watching. Newspile just dropped via the Australian newspaper.
Speaker 1: More detail with Simon Benson in the morning and on
Speaker 1: the front page fifty one forty nine in favor of
Speaker 1: the coalition remains a two party preferred revote coalition at
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Remember if it's got a four in front
Speaker 1: of it, they're very close, if not quite unquite guaranteed
Speaker 1: to win labor down thirty one percent. That's a couple
Speaker 1: points off from where they were at the twenty two election.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight is well and truly up for the Libs,
Speaker 1: twelve percent for the Greens, seven percent for One Nation
Speaker 1: One Nation. By the way, in some of that marginal
Speaker 1: seat polling even stronger than that, So I had imagine
Speaker 1: the assumption about preferences is going to be part of
Speaker 1: why they make the conclusions they do about Peter Dutton.
Speaker 1: The number that is really interesting to me thirty four
Speaker 1: percent of people say it's time to re elect the government.
Speaker 1: Fifty three percent say it's time for a change. Obviously
Speaker 1: that includes Greens, that includes One Nation, that includes Libs, right,
Speaker 1: but the fact that the people who want to back
Speaker 1: in the current mob doesn't even crack forty. There we go, James,
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Obviously from a one nation perspective, there was
Speaker 1: even better poling around this weekend.
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, you Gavis certainly come out and I was
Speaker 12: absolutely flabbing over forty thousand people surveyed to get the
Speaker 12: results they did, and this just backs that up again. Look,
Speaker 12: it's encouraging for one Nation, particularly for those people at
Speaker 12: home that may be sort of thinking do we give
Speaker 12: one nation to.
Speaker 1: Aid or not?
Speaker 12: Here it's super important in the Senate, because Peter Dutton
Speaker 12: may win government in his own right in the lower House,
Speaker 12: but unless we see a change of dynamics in the Senate,
Speaker 12: you were going to see the Greens govern with Labor
Speaker 12: the upper house, and that will destroy Peter Dutton.
Speaker 6: In actual fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it.
Speaker 12: Was a cause for another double dissolution within twelve months
Speaker 12: of that government taking place. So it's important that we
Speaker 12: get a re evaluation of the Senate. The only way
Speaker 12: you're going to get that is voting for other like
Speaker 12: minded conservative parties that will work with the Coalition if
Speaker 12: they're to win government and.
Speaker 6: Support good legislation.
Speaker 12: But also to you know, we're not afraid to say
Speaker 12: to the coalition, hey we don't support that, go back
Speaker 12: and mend it. Will help you amend it to pass it.
Speaker 12: And that's the logical thing to do. We've proven over
Speaker 12: two terms of government with the Coalition that we can
Speaker 12: do it. And i'd encourage people to vote one nation
Speaker 12: in the Senate in particular.
Speaker 1: And I always say about your Senate vote, which is
Speaker 1: that your Senate vote is the insurance that you take
Speaker 1: out against the governing party. Right, So if you want
Speaker 1: somebody who's going to be a little closer, a little
Speaker 1: more pure in your philosophy, then you give them the
Speaker 1: power upstairs and you let people and then you know,
Speaker 1: you give the preference downstairs, because that's where it ends
Speaker 1: up forming a government. But Linda, your thoughts on this,
Speaker 1: what's stubborn? What's not? Your thoughts on again? We are
Speaker 1: a ways out. There is no election tomorrow. But I
Speaker 1: was reading I think it was Bob McMullen. It was
Speaker 1: a former Labor senator in one of the websites over
Speaker 1: the weekend talking about, oh, well, if you do this
Speaker 1: and do that in three months out and no one knows,
Speaker 1: he's got to have it by May, right, so he's
Speaker 1: got to announce it in March, or he may announce
Speaker 1: it at the towards the end of February. But we're
Speaker 1: basically on top of an election now, and I don't
Speaker 1: know whether these numbers are going to move dramatically in
Speaker 1: the next few weeks. But Albo would need to look.
Speaker 3: Labour won the last election on a primary vote that
Speaker 3: had a three in front of it, and I've always
Speaker 3: said for many months now on this show that Labor
Speaker 3: I think will go into this election as the underdog.
Speaker 3: Of course, they've only been in government for one term
Speaker 3: and so many of the things that James and even
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton lament.
Speaker 7: About actually were policies of.
Speaker 3: The coalition government. But nevertheless, this is going to be
Speaker 3: a hard election for Labor. I do want to say
Speaker 3: on the minor party issue, it was interesting to me
Speaker 3: actually that Joe Hockey, of course, the former Liberal treasurer,
Speaker 3: came out last week and said that he would prefer
Speaker 3: Labor to be in government then there be a vote
Speaker 3: for a minor party, you know, like the tials to
Speaker 3: form government with one of.
Speaker 7: The major parties.
Speaker 3: So I do think that's interesting that even the Liberals
Speaker 3: are saying, don't vote for minor parties. They're dangerous and
Speaker 3: they can create these really happy to see us get
Speaker 3: answers here Joe Hockey say that, and look.
Speaker 1: I love I love Joe, but he's also free to
Speaker 1: his seat of North City doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: And can I also just say, the mayor of tomorrow,
Speaker 3: Rick Ferman, has just texted me mate, I'm okay.
Speaker 7: For your lovely kind words.
Speaker 3: I love hearing love it debate Australia, and I want
Speaker 3: to say it's delightful to have you all tuned in tonight.
Speaker 1: Give me thirty seconds on this one.
Speaker 6: James, friend, I reckons he paid twenty five bucks. I
Speaker 6: don't want a un.
Speaker 7: Friend, James. I know that's hard to believe.
Speaker 1: All right now, Linda, I do want to get into
Speaker 1: bold predictions. But you're about to head off to the
Speaker 1: United States or with a whole bunch of other people
Speaker 1: INTERMN the superannuation industry, and you're sitting on some of
Speaker 1: those boards.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I think it is important in the global context
Speaker 3: where there's been this discussion with President Trump about the
Speaker 3: introduction of tariffs, that superannuation funds across Australia are going
Speaker 3: to go to the US next week to hold talks
Speaker 3: with the new administration and of course have a look
Speaker 3: at investment prospects for Australians and their retirement funds.
Speaker 7: We invest globally.
Speaker 3: Much of Australia's pension funds are doing this all across
Speaker 3: the world. But I think it is important to see
Speaker 3: our superannuation sector engaging with the Trump administration.
Speaker 7: We're obviously working with the.
Speaker 3: Australian ambassador in the US and this is a really
Speaker 3: important thing for the superannuation funds to be doing in
Speaker 3: our members' interest, but also in the national light.
Speaker 1: I know Karen says he can get you in. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to say, if you want the photo of
Speaker 1: me and Trump in the Oval office that's going to
Speaker 1: help here, you can take it. I'll give it to you.
Speaker 1: You can give it away. Yeah, all right, Thank you James,
Speaker 1: Thank you Linda. We'll do the prediction thing again when
Speaker 1: I've got more time next week. Thank you guys to
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Royal Report next onime you Telly, and then
Speaker 1: we are back. Thanks again to James Morra for taking care.
Speaker 1: Had a lovely date night with the misses just before
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Toda