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Speaker 1: So I was a little bit unprofessional, a little bit overweight.

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Speaker 1: All you want to do is go to sleep, and

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Speaker 2: I did. I was in tears a few times in

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Speaker 1: I think I racked my dad at one stage and

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Speaker 2: At the end of my first pre season.

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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to separate bathrooms.

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Speaker 4: We would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the

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Speaker 4: Eur nation, the traditional custodians of this land, and pay

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Speaker 4: our respects to the elders, both past and present.

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Speaker 5: I'm Ali Dado, and far far away is my husband, Cameron.

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Speaker 6: Cameron, Cameron, daddy.

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Speaker 5: I'm good. Nice to see your face.

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Speaker 6: Well, I can't see you at the moment because you're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I know. Well, you can hear my boys,

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Speaker 5: That's why.

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Speaker 6: I can hear your voice, and that always sounds like

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Speaker 6: a lovely tickle.

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Speaker 5: Oh good, Yeah, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 6: Hearing your voice. We're in different countries.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, work has taken Cam away and I've been working

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Speaker 7: here so but we've come together to talk to a

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Speaker 7: really beautiful couple. We actually have our first AFL player

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Speaker 6: Adam Cooney. Yeah, was drafted in the AFL's two thousand

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Speaker 6: for sure. Yeah, the Bulldogs got him and he didn't

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Speaker 7: And then he would play at the top level of

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Speaker 7: When he retired after a couple of seasons with someone's

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Speaker 5: Might come on, Might.

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Speaker 6: Don the sash. He finished, He finished high and mighty.

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Speaker 7: There you go, And in the middle of his career,

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Speaker 7: Adam married his gorgeous partner.

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Speaker 5: Hailey McCann.

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Speaker 7: They have three kids, careers, and some great stories to share.

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Speaker 6: Let's get to know the Coonies, Adam and Hailey. Hey,

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Speaker 6: welcome Adam and Haley to the bathroom. How are you guys, so.

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Speaker 8: Excited to be here.

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Speaker 5: It's a pleasure. Where are you guys talking to us from?

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Speaker 2: We're in our daughter's bedroom, actually, in the daughters Joe.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're trying to find the quietest place at the

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Speaker 8: Cooney House and unfortunately there's not many, so Evie's room.

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Speaker 8: So we're in baitsvide Sauted, Geelong, in EV's bedroom down

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Speaker 8: Geelong Way. Yeah, yes, great spot it is.

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Speaker 5: It is. We have family down and down that way.

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Speaker 8: Nice you have to visit here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my folks are in Queenscliff.

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Speaker 8: Oh perfect, that's beautiful, beautiful, it's really nice.

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Speaker 6: Well, listen, let's dive in. Let's go, let's just get

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Speaker 6: to know you a bit. So how did you guys

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a bit of conjecture actually as to the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, our stories to certainly match up.

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Speaker 1: I'm claiming that we first met at Haley's house. She

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Speaker 2: And then we locked eyes and it was love at

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Speaker 8: It must be someone else, you must have another. I

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Speaker 8: That's when I first remember. So, yeah, it's a bit

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Speaker 7: How old would you have put yourselves then, Hayley that

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Speaker 8: Well, I was nineteen and Adam was sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay, gotcha, gotcha? Wow? Okay, Well, who knows

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Speaker 6: I did my research on the great wonderful Wikipedia. Yes,

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Speaker 2: It's an infamous story now. That one actually came out

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Speaker 1: Somehow, I think it was Stephen Quatermain who was hosting

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Speaker 8: No I had you had.

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Speaker 1: Haley had been it for a little while, and I

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Speaker 8: True story.

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Speaker 7: Have you ever tried to redo that moment again and

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Speaker 5: I think you deserved that, Hale.

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Speaker 2: I was that was such a failure.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I still think about myself.

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Speaker 2: I was just too young, don know any better?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we were pretty young. We were pretty young.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that that is young. I A lot of people

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Speaker 7: But when Cam asked me, he asked me in this

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Speaker 5: He said, well, it was like, what did you say?

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Speaker 6: We get Maybe maybe we should get married.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we should get married. Then and I was like,

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Speaker 5: are you I think? I said, can you ask me properly?

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Speaker 7: No mate, cheese or nothing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the cheesels would have gotten burger rings would have

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Speaker 5: They sort of smell on.

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Speaker 5: Did you frame it? Did you put in a little

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Speaker 8: It's in a little box and it sat there for

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Speaker 7: So what do they put in those crazy modern day preservatives?

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Speaker 2: They're delicious?

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Speaker 7: What was it about Adam that you knew he was

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Speaker 8: Sounds sounds really corny, But I looked at him the

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Speaker 2: I think that was our first date, but that was

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the cheesy christ for you, Adam, you're dating this

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Speaker 1: I think we were always really close. From the moment

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Speaker 1: I used to go around to her house, yeah, just

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Speaker 5: Got ash too, so yeah, totally.

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Speaker 8: But now I have a sixteen year old I look

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Speaker 1: I think, don't we Yeah, it's a bit of it's

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Speaker 1: And we're trying to tell, you know, go out and

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Speaker 2: But me and Hailey exactly the same.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 6: And do they sort of throw it back at you

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Speaker 8: piercings and probably drinking.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 8: Our kids like, but hold on. We've got really great

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Speaker 2: Adam.

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Speaker 2: So he was pretty keen, I'm not having me back

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how was that for you, then, Haley when you

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, we're very close to it family. I've only

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Speaker 1: There were only twenty at that stage. Most of them

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Speaker 2: On the weekend. I didn't understand why I wasn't joining them.

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to I'm not going to be there

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Speaker 8: just not happening. I'll leave. I actually think I packed

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I had no babysitters here. I had no one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 7: It was that was us in LA. It was just

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Adam, you've you've spoken really openly and beautifully about

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Speaker 5: How was that for you? I mean, what was that

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Speaker 1: At the time, I didn't really think it was a

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Speaker 2: You know, do you think you're ready for this?

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Speaker 1: Your only most people did say what the hell are

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Speaker 7: Love does that, doesn't it When when you're that much

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Speaker 8: We did that, didn't. We sort of just went, let's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, beautiful, I can relate to that.

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Speaker 6: What do you think has been the biggest challenge in

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Speaker 2: Do you know what?

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Speaker 1: We haven't really had too many challenging situations.

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Speaker 2: We've to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: To pretty much we're pretty much in severable.

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Speaker 1: We obviously we bicker, and Hailey's into this stage now

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Speaker 8: She must mention it, you know, ten to I can

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Speaker 8: see that I'm happy. Can I tell you something, Adam

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Speaker 8: thinks it is made up. Yes, you do. Look at

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Speaker 6: Adam, Adam, I've got a book you need to read.

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Speaker 6: I've got a book you need to read. It's called

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Speaker 6: Queen Menopause. And you're talking to the author the pretty

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Speaker 8: And it's not one of things.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so important to.

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Speaker 2: Which.

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Speaker 1: But there was there was water on the bathroom floor

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Speaker 8: I just flipped.

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Speaker 2: I just bathrooms. I meant to have water on the floor.

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Speaker 7: It's it's because it's the twenty five thousandth time that

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Speaker 8: But there's also ash Jack's eavy plus Adam that I'm

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Speaker 7: And absolutely it bells, and it may not get any

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Speaker 2: That's the.

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Speaker 7: You've just got to take long, deep breaths at him.

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Speaker 7: I think, long, deepst and do a lot of flowers, chocolates,

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Speaker 7: hoppy I bought you, yeah, date nights.

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Speaker 8: I told her this morning that he's in charge of

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Speaker 8: so I don't have to do it. Just give me

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Speaker 5: Separate bathrooms, separate it's all about.

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Speaker 6: But honey, they they bathe together, they shower together.

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Speaker 5: Don't ruin that.

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Speaker 2: We don't even have separate towns. We just rug ourselves

447
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: up in the same one.

448
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 8: Getting question, we don't. We've we've got things figured now

449
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 8: where we don't have a lot to argue. We're in

450
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 8: a pretty lucky situation financially, I would say, I mean,

451
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 8: we're not the richest people in the world, but we're

452
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 8: pretty comfortable. I would say so that. I think that's

453
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 8: a huge part of it. I think the mentional thing,

454
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 8: we're so lucky. Adam was really clever in his football

455
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 8: years in making sure that we were going to be

456
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 8: set up so we could live comfortably after, which was good.

457
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 8: We're not very materialistic people. You often see us a

458
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 8: kmart or cotton on or Audi. I remember going to

459
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 8: albi Ones and a school mum saw me and she

460
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 8: was like, what are you shopping here for?

461
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 7: Do you know?

462
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 5: Aldi?

463
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. We we love the frozen

464
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 6: Barrel Monday from.

465
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 5: It's Aldi does it Go.

466
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 7: Is there a memorable moment that you feel might have

467
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 7: really strengthened your relationship.

468
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we when we before we had Bax,

469
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 8: we miscarried a couple of times and I think I'm sorry, Yeah,

470
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 8: thank you know, that was a really hard time. I

471
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 8: was here without my mum and my sister, who were

472
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 8: huge more than my bestest friends.

473
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was.

474
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 8: A really tough time, and for Adam to ride that

475
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 8: emotion with me, because it's hard for men, even though

476
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 8: it's their loss too, really hard, I think for some

477
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 8: men to understand the actual feeling of that loss. And

478
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 8: Adam at what twenty one, I think else twenty twenty,

479
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 8: he was amazing and I was a nightmare. I was

480
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 8: beside myself and obviously I didn't have anyone here. And

481
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 8: I thought afterwards, I thought, if we can get through

482
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 8: the is like boring it on, we can get through anything.

483
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 8: And yeah, that's for me. I don't know about you,

484
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 8: but that for me was huge.

485
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: Well and again it was well, we're both young and

486
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: and it happened a couple of times and it was

487
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: just a Hailey had sort of just moved over from Adelaide,

488
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: so you mentioned she didn't have that support there, and

489
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: she was just so sad for months until and then

490
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: we were obviously trying, and then each month it didn't happen.

491
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: Then there's that sadness again, and then another miscarriage. So

492
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: it was probably it was probably a year and a half.

493
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 8: Before we felt pregnant. And I think being a part

494
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 8: of a food club as well, there's a lot of

495
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 8: other pregnancies around you at the time.

496
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 5: Sure, it makes it so much more pain.

497
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

498
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 8: You see pregnant people wherever you go. So yeah, for

499
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 8: Adam to really stand up at such a young age

500
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 8: and yeah, that that's a pretty that was pretty a

501
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 8: standout for me. I knew it was a keeper them.

502
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, Adam, was that Was that a nate for you

503
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 6: or were you getting some help through the footy club

504
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 6: or through parents or helping you.

505
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: No, I was just focusing on helping Haley, to be

506
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: honest with you, and some of the advice that I

507
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: got after we miscarried the first time was from football

508
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: club people some other people that were close to me,

509
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: was well, don't do that again.

510
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, you judged Ale.

511
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was and that was sort of

512
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: confronting at the time, some of the some of the

513
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: advice that I got, considering that I actually wanted to

514
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: have a baby myself, it probably wasn't a lot of

515
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: trust in you a young relationship with two people from

516
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: a football club side of things, and and some other

517
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: people that were close to us. So but yeah, my

518
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: focus on was trying to get Hailey happy really and

519
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: that when I was.

520
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: It was a confusing time.

521
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: When obviously you miscarry and trying to support but not

522
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: really quite understanding what she was going through. And it

523
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: was well, thanks, thanks, but we got there in the end,

524
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: and then Jax came along.

525
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: And then we were done.

526
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: Beautiful all one girl, one boy, perfect, shut up shop.

527
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 2: And then of course say changes her mind. A couple

528
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: of years later and along came.

529
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 5: We had to go again, Carrot Super Carrot Top one.

530
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 8: She came out with red hair, a wiring from day one.

531
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 7: I think the third one often are actually our third

532
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 7: was just the same thing.

533
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: Came out with the loudest voice, screaming.

534
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 7: She's never stopped being the loudest and the sassiest.

535
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 5: And oh boy, yeah.

536
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 8: She's organizer, isn't she. Evie likes to know where everyone is,

537
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 8: what time everyone's getting home, who's you know, who's there,

538
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 8: and who's where. And yeah, she's sort of the glue

539
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 8: at the moment. She's keeping us all together. She gives

540
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 8: us a hard time if we want to go out

541
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 8: for dinner. She tells us what times we have to

542
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 8: be home. We have curfews.

543
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 7: And I know that you've that Ash said before and said,

544
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 7: you know, obviously publicly she's she's had, She's got her challenges,

545
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 7: some disabilities. How have your other two kids benefited from

546
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 7: having Ash in their lives?

547
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 5: Do you see them as more empathetic kids.

548
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: Especially Jackson, especially jack Sie's with other kids who have

549
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: challenges and disabilities.

550
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 8: He always has been, hasn't he. I think he's prep teacher.

551
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 8: In a parent teaching interview, she said to me, you

552
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 8: can tell that he's got a sister with a disability,

553
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 8: and that he's got a younger baby sister. She's like

554
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 8: from six, she said, he's always the one if there's

555
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 8: an underdog in the class, or if there's someone getting believed,

556
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 8: he's right over there making sure that they you know,

557
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 8: he lifts them. And even now we had an incident yesterday.

558
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 8: A teacher sent me a message. There's a little boy

559
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 8: at Jacksie school that has down syndrome and they couldn't

560
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 8: get him into assembly. So they're like, where's Jack's cooney?

561
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 8: Where is he? And so Jacksie goes out brings him

562
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 8: in and I've got a beautiful photo of them sitting

563
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 8: side by side in an assembly. So he's, yeah, he's

564
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 8: really great, and I'm really hoping that he and getting

565
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 8: to the disability industry, whether it's a special ed teacher

566
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 8: or using that that beautiful soul that he has to

567
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 8: empoyer people with the disability, because he really is a

568
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 8: beautiful boy. So, but she's Jackson's just.

569
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: A bit nice.

570
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: Jax's a bit more. He has that empathy inside to him.

571
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: Where's a bit more like me. Yeah, she's a bit

572
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: cold hearted. She's a cold vision.

573
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 8: To you warm up, whereas Jaxson's like me, He's.

574
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 5: Nice, beautiful.

575
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 6: I love just thinking about the way you propose throwing

576
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 6: a burger, right Cam. So I mean having having kids

577
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 6: is it does take a lot of time, and they

578
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 6: they need time, But so do you guys as a couple,

579
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 6: how do you how do you balance your time with

580
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 6: the kids, for yourselves and obviously through work commitments.

581
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: Oh well, I spend a lot of time.

582
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: I'll probably spend eighty percent of my time with Jacks

583
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: in terms of like, I've coached his footy team. He

584
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: wants to play lucky, so I spent a lot of

585
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: time with him giving him advice. You know, gym staff,

586
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: working on his foot he working on the.

587
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Mental side of the game.

588
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: So he takes up he takes up a lot of

589
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: my time Thankfully, next I don't have to coach him.

590
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I can pass him on to someone else because I've

591
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: just I'm just about at that stage where I've given

592
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: him all I can. Now I've got to hand him

593
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: over to someone else. So coaching coaching him. Unfortunately, when

594
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I was his coach last year, he dislocated his shoulder

595
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: before round one and didn't play a game of footy

596
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: for the whole season. So I coached his team and

597
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: he didn't even play, which was a little bit disappointing.

598
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of time, a lot of time he

599
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: spent with him.

600
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: And then because it's Saturday mornings as well, and Eve

601
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: he plays netball at the same time, so I don't

602
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: get to watch her play a lot on the Saturday mornings,

603
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: which is disap But I suppose next year will open

604
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: up I.

605
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: Can spend a bit more time with her there.

606
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: But balancing our time together and the kids is good

607
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: because it's it is easy because we have so much

608
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: time during the day.

609
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

610
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 6: Nice is Jack's going to play for the Bombers or

611
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 6: the Bulldogs?

612
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: Well, he's a father son academy to the Western Bulldogs,

613
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: so I actually qualify. You have to play one hundred

614
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: games for a club to qualify as a father's son.

615
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: So he's qualified.

616
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: So that I didn't play thankfully a lot of depending

617
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: which way you want to look at, I didn't play

618
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: enough games for the Bombers unfortunately.

619
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: So he's been in the Bulldog's Academy, which is great.

620
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: They get all sort of father son picks in potentially

621
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, four or five years before they actually get drafted,

622
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: and they sort of start to coach them and do

623
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: some academy stuff, training and school holidays and things with them.

624
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: So he's been in the.

625
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Academy there for a number of years now and he

626
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: loves I think he's just about got me and now

627
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: in terms of heights, so he's grown a bit over

628
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, which is which is really

629
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: sad that he's taller than me now.

630
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's got he's got a bit of potential.

631
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: He's he's athletic, but he's got a lot of hard

632
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: work to do if he thinks that he's going to

633
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: play it.

634
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 6: Especially these days. It's a bit of a different game

635
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 6: to when you were playing, isn't it.

636
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just have to be so fit, yeah, true.

637
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 7: Is there any lessons that you learned from playing AFL

638
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 7: that you now apply to your just everyday life.

639
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Uh well, I try and pass those lessons onto to

640
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Jack's at the moment. More you know, nutrition, learning about nutrition, diet,

641
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: what you have to put put into your body to

642
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: get yourself healthy and fit and strong, and you know

643
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: protein and all that sort of stuff. But so I've

644
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: learned so much as a as a player in terms of,

645
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, what you have to put into your body

646
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: to become a good player. And also the mental side

647
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: of the game now so important that I didn't have

648
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: anything to do with you know, sports sykes or even

649
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: like mental coaches or things like that when I played football,

650
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: and that sort of started to come in a little

651
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: bit towards the end of my career, which was in sixteen.

652
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: But it's so popular now just about every player has

653
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: a sports site that they speak to regularly, and they

654
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: have techniques on how to train your mind. And I

655
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: sort of wish that I did a lot more of that,

656
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: So I try and steer Jackson in that direction now.

657
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of life lessons and things you've done,

658
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: the opposite I've done.

659
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, what does that mean?

660
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 7: Hailey?

661
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 8: Everything that he got taught about healthy eating and not drinking,

662
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 8: keeping himself fitting, strong and healthy. That's a lot of

663
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 8: the window now he's living his best life. But said that,

664
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 8: we always said that it was going to be, you know,

665
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 8: give it everything in Adam's years, and then I promised

666
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 8: him as soon as you're done, you can drink beer

667
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 8: on a Friday night, you can eat hungry jacks whenever

668
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 8: you want. So definitely living his best life now.

669
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and as many burger rings as you want.

670
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Hayley, Can I ask you a question, yes,

671
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 6: when Adam was playing footy, what was it like for you?

672
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 6: Because it feels like it was a different time than

673
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 6: what it is now. People are being thrown out for

674
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 6: saying racist comments from football stadiums, as they should be.

675
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 6: I mean crowds. I think back in that day when

676
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 6: you were playing, Adam, and certainly in the seventies and

677
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 6: eighties were pretty rough, you know, And how was that

678
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 6: for you as Adam's partner hearing, you know, fifty year

679
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 6: old man screaming abuse at your husband and his mates

680
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 6: playing footy.

681
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 8: I would many times have the girls dragging you back

682
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 8: because I'm like, especially having the kids next to me

683
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 8: You're like on these people, their families are year like,

684
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 8: this is my you know, it's my five year old

685
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 8: son hearing that his dad's the biggest beat beat Bee

686
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 8: Pepper and you know Cooney bebe like just huge, huge abuse.

687
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 8: It doesn't happen so much now. I'm still lucky enough

688
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 8: to go to games. Ash is a huge Western war

689
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 8: Dog supporter, so we often, Adam and I will take

690
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 8: the kids to the foot and it's a lot more

691
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 8: chilled now. Like you said, you just can't. You can't.

692
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 8: People don't put up with that anymore, which is fantastic.

693
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 8: And I'm also super grateful that Adam, we missed the

694
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 8: social media stuff, didn't we most Yeah, that I can't

695
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 8: even imagine now. I'm oh, I just can't imagine what

696
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 8: the people what they have to read about themselves and

697
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 8: their families and a lot of them it's shocking.

698
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, after every game you and I had, I think

699
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter at the sort of back end of my career,

700
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: and if you had a game, you wouldn't you wouldn't

701
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: check your social media for forty eight seventy two hours

702
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: after it, and you you get abused sort.

703
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: Of weekly no matter, you know, win lose or draw.

704
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: But I just can't imagine now with TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,

705
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: players would check their social media after a game and

706
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: even if you might have had a great game, but

707
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: you might have had twenty nine disposals and someone has

708
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: had a multi bet for you to get thirty plus,

709
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: and that will just that'll abuse at you and death

710
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: threats and all sorts of abuse these days. So I'm

711
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: glad that I sort of missed out in those times

712
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: and even younger years, my first year of two thousand

713
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: and four, we would sort of go out, maybe if

714
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: we had an eight day break with some of the

715
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: players and enjoy a few drinks at a pub and

716
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: there's no mobile phones, no one's.

717
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: Recording, you know, anything they're doing.

718
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Now the players are just in the spotlight twenty four

719
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: hours a day.

720
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I was pretty I was a bit

721
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 8: of a cipho when when phones and cameras and Adam

722
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 8: don't have a photo at a nightclub, when you're holding

723
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 8: a beer and you've got your arm around a girl,

724
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 8: just don't do it. And I think he used to

725
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 8: be like, oh, you're so jealous, you're such a psycho.

726
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 8: But I was jealous and psycho. But I used to

727
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 8: say it besides that, besides that, I was so. I

728
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 8: used to think, we've got children that go to school

729
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 8: and also takes this for one girl or you know,

730
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 8: someone's boyfriend to see her girlfriend with Adam and start this.

731
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 8: You know he touched me or he did this, and

732
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 8: and yeah, it's the same. You know, even even drinking,

733
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 8: I'm like, you're not just it's not just you. You know,

734
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 8: you have to go pick up Ash from school on Monday,

735
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 8: and so it was always about our family. So I

736
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 8: wasn't that much of a psycho. I was clever.

737
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 5: Yes, you was thinking ahead, you're a picture. Yeah, that's you.

738
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 5: That's you, Hailey, tell us a bit about I'm not sure.

739
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 7: Are you still working in the disability district's best job?

740
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

741
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 7: So you obviously was that inspired by Ash or you

742
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 7: just this is where you wanted to go.

743
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay. I worked as an education support officer in

744
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 8: the school for a few years and I really enjoyed that,

745
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 8: but there were so many rules and this is how

746
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 8: we do it and this is how we've always done it,

747
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 8: and I knew that it could be better, but I

748
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 8: wasn't in a position as an ESO to make this call.

749
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 8: So I left too much politics and yeah, too many rules,

750
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 8: and then Ash. I think at about the same time,

751
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 8: Ash was eighteen, so she had finished school, and so

752
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 8: she had these support workers that were coming into her life,

753
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 8: and she was just blossoming. She was going out and

754
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 8: getting a tattoo or coming over their nose pierced, or

755
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 8: going to these music concerts. And I thought, oh my gosh,

756
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 8: these people are just empowering her, and that's what I

757
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 8: want to do. And I have patients when I'm not perimenopausal.

758
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: But.

759
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 5: When it's not your family.

760
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 8: He actually wanted to engine that. In the questionaire that

761
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 8: we did for you guys, you said one of your

762
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: worst traits, Hailey, is that you're nice to everyone else

763
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 8: about your family. I can't write that. I do want patience,

764
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 8: and I just love my job. I work with three

765
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 8: different participants. I work Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and I'm just

766
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 8: empowering people, these people to live their best life. Like,

767
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 8: just because you have a disability doesn't mean you can't

768
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 8: go and get your nose pierced, or you can't yeah,

769
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 8: you can't get a tattoo, or you can do anything.

770
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 8: You can do anything, and I will make sure that

771
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 8: that happens. Whatever they want to do, I'm like, let's

772
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 8: do it. That's great.

773
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 5: Ah, it's fantastic. Good for you.

774
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 6: Thank you, Adam. You're still working in sports, aren't you.

775
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

776
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: So I worked for seven We do a show on

777
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: Friday night after the footy and I work for sen

778
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: radio station over.

779
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: Here in Melbourne.

780
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 8: Right.

781
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 6: I actually listened to you do you Go? Yeah in

782
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 6: the afternoon with Gayzy. You guys you get on show everything.

783
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd usually do a Friday slot there and do

784
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: some summer stuff and then I'll do a game on

785
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: commentary for on the weekend. Yeah.

786
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 6: Now, okay, So, so as we acknowledged that the game

787
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: has changed, what was what was your approach to managing

788
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 6: the mental side of the game, Like you said you

789
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 6: didn't you didn't have that, You didn't have doctors and

790
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 6: psych's working with you at the time. So how are

791
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 6: you dealing with performance anxiety and scrutiny of the media.

792
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

793
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't a warrior.

794
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't one to overthink a game coming in and

795
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: I was great at switching off.

796
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 8: Can I just interrupt you? I think as well, having

797
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 8: kids young Adam would walk out of the change rooms

798
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 8: and straight away it was not about football anymore. It

799
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 8: was about being dads. The kids didn't care whether they won, lose, draw,

800
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 8: So I think that kept you really grounded.

801
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: So, and I was always and there's no bigger critic

803
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: than yourself when you were an athlete. So if I

804
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: would have a poor game, I would be really sort

805
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: of angry and down. But that's not once you walk out, Well,

806
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: it's not the kid's fault and it's not Hailey's fault

807
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: that you've had a bad game. So there's no point

808
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: in being grumpy or going home and being down for

809
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: two days about it.

810
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: Deal with that yourself.

811
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, the kids don't really at that age, didn't

812
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: really care if you had one disposal. They would just

813
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: happen to see you after the game.

814
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 8: I used to have to go home in separate cars

815
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 8: from them. Yeah.

816
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: There was a few of my teammates that would sleep

817
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: in separate beds. You can talk about separate bathrooms, and

818
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: you'd sleep in separate bedrooms a night before a game,

819
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: and then if they had a bad game, they'd be

820
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: grumpy for two or three days at home. And I

821
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: just didn't want to be like that. I mean, deal

822
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: with it yourself, and then once you get to the

823
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: football club, watch your video, have your meeting with your coaches,

824
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: and then they can tell you what you've what you've

825
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: done wrong, and what you need to work on, and then.

826
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: Get rid of there. But well, yeah, I was.

827
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Really good at switching off when it wasn't football time.

828
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: So as soon as I left the football club after

829
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: training or after a game, then I just wouldn't think

830
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: about it anymore. I had other things to deal with

831
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: in my life. Sit there and steal on football all

832
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: the time.

833
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 5: What a great approach, That's fantastic.

834
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work for some though, So some people,

835
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: or had some of my teammates, if they had the

836
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: same attitude as me, they wouldn't have lasted two or

837
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: three years. Some people have to be like all encompassing seven.

838
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Ye have to live their life twenty four to seven

839
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: to get the best out of themselves. And I was

840
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: the complete opposite. If I did that, I would have

841
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: been burnt out and the tide by the time I

842
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: was twenty.

843
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 7: I think, right, we do something called the two minute shower,

844
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 7: So we'll ask both of you the same questions we're

845
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 7: conserving waters, so just keep your answers as sure as possible.

846
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 5: Do you want to ask the first one?

847
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: Hun?

848
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just going to dive in with this one.

849
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 6: Who's got the best tattoos.

850
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Has got the best tattoos. I have the worst tattoos.

851
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: I've got some home jobs on my back that my

852
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: kids have actually done with the tattoo gun and all

853
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: sorts of things.

854
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: So Ailey's a much more finer than mine.

855
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, they both agree on that one. Is there one

856
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 5: experience with each other? You would love to relive.

857
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 8: The proposal.

858
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: In my head? I love this.

859
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 5: Were living in mark too in a better way? Yeah.

860
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time we go on a holiday with just

861
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: the two of us, I think we live that as

862
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: soon as we get home.

863
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, all right.

864
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: What the world needs now is more Haley's.

865
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: That's nice, I think when she mentioned that, you know,

866
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: the disability stuff. She has an amazing heart and wants

867
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: to help every single person that she bumps into and

868
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: takes a lot on more than what she should, which.

869
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 8: You can cross me about that.

870
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: She just tries to do too much. But if the

871
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: world had more Haley's would be a much better place.

872
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: That's that's gorgeous.

873
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: That's nice.

874
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 6: What so you, Hailey.

875
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 8: What does the world need now? The world needs a

876
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 8: bit of love and peace, I think so maybe they

877
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 8: do need more met horn.

878
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 7: There is there a favorite weird habit that you love

879
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 7: about each other?

880
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: I think our favorite weird habit is that we love

881
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: playing the pokes together.

882
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 8: We love going on for a little poke together. That's

883
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 8: so fun. Yeah, that's a good one.

884
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 5: That's brilliant and I love it all right.

885
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: Last question, one word to describe each other.

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Speaker 2: Very menopausal. We love each other.

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Speaker 8: I would describe Adam as my soulmate. And that's so

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Speaker 8: corny and I feel like I slap myself, but it's true.

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Speaker 8: My best friend, that's that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would describe myself as lucky. And you two

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Speaker 1: words too, caring.

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Speaker 7: Wow. We've had a lot of couples that we've spoken

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Speaker 7: to over the years, and your story to me, like

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Speaker 7: that's the whole, the whole thing that was coming through

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Speaker 7: with soulmates.

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Speaker 5: Soul mates so and and I'm with you.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's like it's such a cliche, mat but

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Speaker 7: the way you've been together and still together and still

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Speaker 7: clearly in love and everything's just you've just handled this

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Speaker 7: world of you know, professional sports and ash and you

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Speaker 7: you know, your other two kids, and yeah, you you've

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Speaker 7: got something really special.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, lovely.

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Speaker 7: And love it through that, Perimopol, thanks for your time,

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Speaker 7: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 6: That was an excellent chat. Honey.

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Speaker 7: They were just so I know, we know we say

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Speaker 7: that with so many of our guests, but boy, didn't

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Speaker 7: I mean to have met that young and to have

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Speaker 7: just to still be sort of kind of gooey eyed

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Speaker 7: over each other. That's that's that really is amazing. I

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Speaker 7: think that's beautiful. I have to I have to ask you,

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Speaker 7: were you slightly fanboying a little bit?

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Speaker 5: I know, Look I could.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know it's a serious serious yeah, and

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Speaker 6: look we could have gone way I know you could

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Speaker 6: have I know, into into the psychology of football, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean professional sports. But we're a relationship show. And

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Speaker 6: when I do my Man podcast, I'll get him back

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Speaker 6: on a great chap. I found them. The word that

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Speaker 6: I was going to say was refreshing, you know, like

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Speaker 6: you said, I didn't worry about stuff. And what's that quote?

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Speaker 6: Worry Paul's Tomorrow's clouds over today? It just seems like

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Speaker 6: it was just such an ease about them. I just

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Speaker 6: don't sweat the small stuff. It's just why are we here,

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Speaker 6: what's the big picture?

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Speaker 2: And I loved that.

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Speaker 5: I loved it. No, it was really really beautiful. Well

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Speaker 5: we hope you loved it too.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for listening, and catch us next

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Speaker 7: time on separate bathrooms.