Speaker 1: Harry McKay undergoes surgery on his troublesome knee, adding to
Speaker 1: a hellishly interrupted season, while Oscar Allen might have played
Speaker 1: his last game at West Coast.
Speaker 2: The road ahead for Saint Kilda.
Speaker 3: Can the draft, talent and trade targets lift the Saints
Speaker 3: from the mid table nightmare and.
Speaker 1: The raigning Brownlow and Coleman medallists Together On Players Night,
Speaker 1: Patrick Cripps and Jesse Hogan join us.
Speaker 2: We've talked about his step into it, embrace all of it,
Speaker 2: hit in the room and eat it.
Speaker 4: It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.
Speaker 2: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain cape
Speaker 2: the man on They played the best footy I've ever
Speaker 2: seen at the start of the season.
Speaker 4: And Andrew said President left the cup over said, of
Speaker 4: course they do.
Speaker 2: It is the stuff that legends are made of. What
Speaker 2: is holding the ball?
Speaker 5: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now
Speaker 5: that I can do something.
Speaker 4: Wrong, you know, and I need to get on the board.
Speaker 6: Sex meet the fans, lover and with no fans, no
Speaker 6: through sixty year old.
Speaker 1: The Angels are a bit nasty this Tuesday night. We'll
Speaker 1: get to those shortly gas. But could you see Patrick
Speaker 1: Cripps put in the brown low metal around the neck
Speaker 1: of Bailey Smith.
Speaker 2: Yes, I could, Jared.
Speaker 3: I think I was going to say reluctantly, but if
Speaker 3: he's in front at the end, you'd be worthy winner.
Speaker 3: But I've just done a little bit of homeworking here.
Speaker 3: Max Holmes is coming with a rush, so all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you've got competition. So you go back to
Speaker 3: two thousand and five Cousins twenty he won it with twenty.
Speaker 3: Those are on twenty halfway through the seventh round and
Speaker 3: Daniel Kerr was nineteen. I mean Akka won with twenty
Speaker 3: three and Michael Boss nineteen, so it can still be done.
Speaker 2: Max Holmes is coming. He's an eyecatcher, Jared.
Speaker 4: He is an eye catcher.
Speaker 2: Ow good to have. Jesseygany be awesome.
Speaker 4: Looking forward to it a lot.
Speaker 1: Actually, there's a lot of key forward activity for you
Speaker 1: to Patrick Cripps and Jesse Hogan together. Ray Chamberlain's taken
Speaker 1: a special assignment about Sam Darcy and the challenges of
Speaker 1: an umpireing a forward, so all bit of real overreaction
Speaker 1: with As and Kilda Bentz. Then midweek tackle Lauren Woods
Speaker 1: will lead the lads through the latest footy news that's
Speaker 1: kicking around tonight Tomorrow night. Patrick Dangerfield is our headline
Speaker 1: guests ahead of Game three hundred and fifty. Our coaches
Speaker 1: will turn their eye to all matters footy and Brendan Favola.
Speaker 3: Is going to stop by Ray Chamberlain with samda on
Speaker 3: Sam Darci must must watch because this is going to
Speaker 3: becoming during conversation through the rest of the years, this
Speaker 3: huge man starts to dominate the competition.
Speaker 1: All right, we start Tuesdays with a favorite. This was
Speaker 1: an easy choice tonight. It is thirty years ago to
Speaker 1: the day, June seventeen that one of the most famous
Speaker 1: State of Origin games was staged at the MCG. You
Speaker 1: were telling me about this a week ago. It is
Speaker 1: thirty years ago today that EJ. Lapp was the starting
Speaker 1: point of it. Wow, and the raw emotion that so
Speaker 1: many felt that day, father and son together you put
Speaker 1: us in the rooms for that. What a backdrop that
Speaker 1: was for ninety what's thirty years ago today? He had
Speaker 1: magnanimously handed the captain.
Speaker 3: One word, Jared, Yes, look you want to have a
Speaker 3: look at those highlights. This is so good and if
Speaker 3: you don't get excited about stage footy.
Speaker 2: On the back of this. This is Plugger.
Speaker 3: I was playing half forward in a forward line that
Speaker 3: had Stuart Lowe at Cinna Ford, Plugger and Gary Abbott
Speaker 3: coming out of the goal square od Jes. It was
Speaker 3: hard to get a kick there, and I'll tell you
Speaker 3: right now, and those two men were on fire.
Speaker 2: But you did manage to get a kick.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm going, where's the fifty or whatever?
Speaker 4: The fifteen or whatever it was?
Speaker 2: The fifty, Sure it was a fifty, but no it.
Speaker 4: Was Look it's that baby going.
Speaker 3: There's an awesome day. And those two blokes. Just have
Speaker 3: a look at them, Mark Bay. Look at all these
Speaker 3: players under Andrew Jarmon played well that they pulcouts lit
Speaker 3: the joint up.
Speaker 2: Basi is playing at center back.
Speaker 3: That's his only kick on his right foot in his career,
Speaker 3: and he hits Tony like a lace out and.
Speaker 2: Then Plugger goes back and drills it.
Speaker 3: And then in the end the two of them, Plugger
Speaker 3: and Gazza just started together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had a bit of.
Speaker 4: Fun for young ru here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rue was there. He played a good game. From memory,
Speaker 3: I have to go back and watch this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ablet's fed Plugger. Plugger returned the favor.
Speaker 2: There's two are waxing.
Speaker 3: So they're taking the mick at this stage because we
Speaker 3: gave him a fair old belting from memory. And that's
Speaker 3: why I magnanimously just deferred to the great man and
Speaker 3: let him come out and cap them.
Speaker 1: Seven for Plugger, four for Ablett and Couchy kick three.
Speaker 2: It's outstanding. God is a good player.
Speaker 3: Paul couch put a hockey was playing that day, living
Speaker 3: all those names in there. So David Young, David Neats,
Speaker 3: Jimmy Stein's, Steve O. Schwader, this was the day's as
Speaker 3: sauce in the back line. Nathan Burke was playing. So
Speaker 3: this is why I stayed foot. He works, Jared is.
Speaker 2: When they all stick their mids up, it's nothing better.
Speaker 4: Sixty three point victors.
Speaker 1: Now it's a special night because these have been freshly
Speaker 1: minted for the occasion. And this is for you, replica,
Speaker 1: full replica the right badges and the collar.
Speaker 2: Is this for miss the collar on sale?
Speaker 1: They really gone on sale today wow AFL stores to
Speaker 1: mark the thirtieth anniversary one of the most famous origin games.
Speaker 3: Go ahead and get one, just wear somewhere and just
Speaker 3: be proud one too, Jared, No, and you like the
Speaker 3: Farno woll the mist Gids and we're at home, all right.
Speaker 4: So that's a Tuesday favorite, if ever there was one.
Speaker 2: I love it. Roth to Flyer.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the agenda. It is dominated
Speaker 1: by injury news, and the injury news is bad at Carlton.
Speaker 1: Harry McKay has undergone arthroscopic surgery on his knee, so
Speaker 1: it wouldn't respond last week to the increased load. Michael
Speaker 1: Voss just planted the seed of trepidation in his postgame
Speaker 1: press conference and that has come to pass. He's had
Speaker 1: a hellishly interrupted season games. He's played seven out of
Speaker 1: the thirteen games. So he was there for the Richmond game,
Speaker 1: then he took his mental health break.
Speaker 4: He came back.
Speaker 1: God can Cuss had the facial fractures, plays five in
Speaker 1: a row, including stirring turns against Geelong as the scene here,
Speaker 1: and the silar against sin Kilda, and now it's knee
Speaker 1: surgery that is going to keep him out until the
Speaker 1: right at.
Speaker 4: The back end of the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the most important thing was he got back and
Speaker 3: played a couple of outstanding games Jared, because I would
Speaker 3: hate to have seen him go off, you know, potentially
Speaker 3: for the rest of the season without reminding himself and
Speaker 3: the rest of the foot he will just how good
Speaker 3: a player he can be.
Speaker 2: And I know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's lots of conversations I had around the Carton
Speaker 3: Fords and I've heard his name mentioned in dispatches. From
Speaker 3: a trade point of view, I don't think that's what
Speaker 3: Carlton will be looking.
Speaker 2: At right now.
Speaker 3: And you know, when you get back to it to
Speaker 3: have Kerno and I don't think they might take them
Speaker 3: made the most of it of Charlie and Harry, but
Speaker 3: I'm glad he came back and dominated against the Geelong
Speaker 3: Football Club, who we wrote so very highly because that
Speaker 3: just reminded everyone that and he's best.
Speaker 2: He's an elite operator.
Speaker 3: So no luck and potentially this weekend, I'm not sure
Speaker 3: where it sits with Charlie, but Sam Walt's definitely out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so no calf damage.
Speaker 1: So six to eight turnarounds, has to get through training
Speaker 1: on Thursday to prove himself. This is significant against North
Speaker 1: He's kicked eighteen goals in the past four against the Kangers,
Speaker 1: so he's had away with them, they.
Speaker 2: Will be sitting in a game resting.
Speaker 3: Don't take a risk with him, and it would be
Speaker 3: I'd imagine if he well I don't actually know, but
Speaker 3: he came off the ground, didn't he?
Speaker 2: With that?
Speaker 3: This calf injury against the West Coast Eagles in a
Speaker 3: game that they pretty.
Speaker 2: Much had in hand after court a time.
Speaker 3: So they may have been ultra conservative Jared and they
Speaker 3: So from that point of view, there'd be a chance.
Speaker 3: But if it's a general tightness of a soft tissue
Speaker 3: like a calf, you wouldn't play off six days.
Speaker 2: But they may have been ultraconservative.
Speaker 4: So how worrying that the Blues are tenth.
Speaker 1: They're six and seven, they've won their two off the buy,
Speaker 1: they've played stirring first terms and we'll talk to Patrick
Speaker 1: Crips around the rest of it. They came undone through
Speaker 1: injury in part late last season and they are dealing
Speaker 1: with that again right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously it's a massive challenge. It's not who, it's
Speaker 3: not how many injuries you get necessarily, it's who you
Speaker 3: get them to. But they've also demned straight to capacity
Speaker 3: to rise without some of these place through that time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, it's pretty desperate now though, and
Speaker 3: we'll talk to Patrick when he comes in here. He
Speaker 3: would be aware of that, but no Sam Walsh in
Speaker 3: the middle of the ground, he would be shouldering a
Speaker 3: pretty big burden in the coming weeks. And so from
Speaker 3: a Kangaroos point of view is that they're sitting there
Speaker 3: now going right. This is not that they don't get
Speaker 3: themselves up for a game, but when you get opportunity
Speaker 3: presented to you, potentially know how potentially no Charlie, potentially
Speaker 3: Sam Walsh.
Speaker 2: Well, they're coming at you big time thinking that they
Speaker 2: can win.
Speaker 3: And so maybe the biggest four weeks for Patrick while
Speaker 3: he covers for a couple of.
Speaker 1: His motes Oscar Allen, the injured news came back. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the plantarist that West Coast we're hoping for, which
Speaker 1: would have been short term. It is instead calf and
Speaker 1: achilles damage. No surgery required on the achilles, but it's
Speaker 1: a medium term injury. So you can sort of start
Speaker 1: you counted about five weeks here. The long term asset
Speaker 1: is not damaged, but the medium term is going to
Speaker 1: be compromised. There's only nine games left in the Eagles season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, Oscar has had one little misstep depending on
Speaker 3: who you talk to this year. Already, from a captain's
Speaker 3: in leadership point of view, the path forward is clear
Speaker 3: for him. He leads from the sidelines as hard as
Speaker 3: he ever has, as hard as he captain this side.
Speaker 3: If he's out for four weeks or six weeks, he's
Speaker 3: doing everything in his power here and he's not talking
Speaker 3: about whether he's going to be there at the end
Speaker 3: of this year. He fronts his group and says, listen,
Speaker 3: I'll be here every single morning, So anyone wants to
Speaker 3: do extra gym session, I'm there for you. Anyone wants
Speaker 3: to do some more ballwork while I'll be there, and
Speaker 3: just go over and above in the next six weeks
Speaker 3: while he's out with injury, and be the captain of
Speaker 3: the football club that you're elected to be. That is
Speaker 3: the only choice for us, Grewllan. None of this bulldusks
Speaker 3: about oh will he boo there? Do they put him away?
Speaker 3: And will he go to Brisbane? You're the captain of
Speaker 3: this football club, captain, whilst you're injured on the boundary,
Speaker 3: they need you more than they ever have your leadership
Speaker 3: and support.
Speaker 2: Andrew mcqualto who's going through a really difficult time.
Speaker 3: As a young coach, and be he's sidekick and get
Speaker 3: these boys up for the next six weeks. That's your
Speaker 3: job as captain of the footy club. Not worrying about
Speaker 3: you know, we're they're going to be there next year.
Speaker 3: Do what you're there to do this year. I like
Speaker 3: that simple. Yeah, everyone else is going to want to
Speaker 3: fold the tent here.
Speaker 2: Don't fold the tent. Go and get out and work
Speaker 2: harder than you ever have as a leader of this
Speaker 2: football club.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: So that's the injury news as it's landed on a
Speaker 1: Brisbane Lions front.
Speaker 4: They're going to come to Victoria tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So the extended lead up to a Friday night that
Speaker 1: has added magnitude is time to rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1: For the Lions. It's a bit don't invent a crisis.
Speaker 1: They've lost two or they've won two of their past six,
Speaker 1: which we spoke about at length last night. Their games
Speaker 1: in some sort of order, but this is a long
Speaker 1: drought that they have experienced at Scadenia Park at GMHBA Stadium.
Speaker 1: It's quite the losing streak to overcome. Ryan Lester gave
Speaker 1: any insight into the thinking for the Brisbane I.
Speaker 5: Think it's more what's the best prep for us to
Speaker 5: give ourselves the best chance.
Speaker 2: To get the resultant.
Speaker 5: I think between the leaders and Fags and d D
Speaker 5: sort of decided that Wednesday because obviously you fly to
Speaker 5: Melbourn and then drive to Geelong, so that gives us
Speaker 5: a full day Thursday to then you get some quality
Speaker 5: out of our captain's run and then leave into Friday.
Speaker 5: So yeah, whilst we haven't done it before, we did
Speaker 5: something similar for the Grand Final, so yeah, it's our
Speaker 5: best preparation to give us sales the best chance.
Speaker 4: Then why not it adds.
Speaker 1: To the magnitude of the build up down the highway
Speaker 1: on Friday night when the Cats and the Lions meet.
Speaker 4: I reckon total sense.
Speaker 2: Then it makes total sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, don't shy away from the fact you've lost.
Speaker 3: You've only one two of your last sex you haven
Speaker 3: one down there since two thousand and three, that's thirtey
Speaker 3: in a row.
Speaker 2: Make it a bit special, build it up.
Speaker 3: They't be scared to build it up and invest heavily
Speaker 3: in it and then go what if we don't win? No,
Speaker 3: No invest in this like it is the biggest game
Speaker 3: of the year and see what happens.
Speaker 1: They've put well, they've played against teams who have put
Speaker 1: everything on the line. I reckon the Giants played as
Speaker 1: if their season was at stake. Melbourne certainly did when
Speaker 1: they went up there. So to flip that around a
Speaker 1: little bit, is they should feel it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent they should.
Speaker 3: And as we said last night, the man in charge
Speaker 3: of this group knows all about this. There's nothing that
Speaker 3: he hasn't seen in footy and understanding emotions and what
Speaker 3: sort of leavers to pull.
Speaker 2: And I like the.
Speaker 3: Fact they're going to get down there a little bit
Speaker 3: early and do something a little bit different. And you know,
Speaker 3: there is a bit of backs to the wall about it.
Speaker 3: Two wins and six and all of a sudden you
Speaker 3: lose Jack Payne. So there is a bit of galvanizing
Speaker 3: income together, so that man Darcy Ford's going to be important,
Speaker 3: Darcy Garden is going to be important.
Speaker 1: So that the track watchers clearly identified that Darcy Gardener
Speaker 1: is going to be the replacement for Jack Payne.
Speaker 4: Just in the way the session.
Speaker 3: Fly, it appeared the obvious, doesn't it really When he
Speaker 3: spent a hell of a little time back there. They've
Speaker 3: been pinch hitting with him forward a bit, but he's
Speaker 3: the obvious one.
Speaker 1: When fague started, he had all of those things the
Speaker 1: Lions hadn't done for such a long period of time.
Speaker 1: I presume they've all been ticked off barra Win down
Speaker 1: to Geelong.
Speaker 3: There's a long time two thousand and three, Jared, So
Speaker 3: this would be the time for them to get up
Speaker 3: and about.
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be to be fantastic, and
Speaker 3: just because they are a team who were always seemed
Speaker 3: to be sell and control themselves the Brisbane line, so
Speaker 3: there could be a bit of well you think a
Speaker 3: bit of emotion injected into this to get themselves up
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: The other side of a Patrick Daniefield joins us tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Nice the furnace, So the furnace softeners the hottest topic
Speaker 1: of the week. Ross lyin here last night was captivated
Speaker 1: on a few fronts as he laid out the challenge
Speaker 1: befoce and killed us. So with a bit of unrests
Speaker 1: in the background, we've all tossed it in. It's red,
Speaker 1: white and black in the furnace.
Speaker 6: It's easy to have fun when you're winning, right Like
Speaker 6: winning's fun. Someone said, I gave him as break all
Speaker 6: the time. Can't be more positive. Forget the scoreboard. We're
Speaker 6: doing everything right. Clearance is territory, but we're turning over
Speaker 6: not trusting the contests. And that was written to angry Ross.
Speaker 6: So I actually texted the jurne I said, I'm really disappointed.
Speaker 6: So it tells me the narrative. People are trying to
Speaker 6: paint around losses, which I do enjoy. But that's the
Speaker 6: environment and the landscape.
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's plenty.
Speaker 6: I hope we were in the top quarter, in the
Speaker 6: top four for age experience as a club full cap
Speaker 6: max and winning ten games an eleven games. With that profile,
Speaker 6: you need to play finals. We weren't and we've shifted.
Speaker 4: They they're just too good.
Speaker 1: Do you need the club, the team to look enticing
Speaker 1: by the end of the year that the players that
Speaker 1: you're trying to attract can see the success.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't hurt.
Speaker 6: We have been trying to run a duel mayor it
Speaker 6: even not just throw it all out, and we've been
Speaker 6: trying to win as well as play.
Speaker 2: A lot of kids, which we have.
Speaker 6: We have some older players that are informed and we
Speaker 6: need to play them and give them opportunity, and if
Speaker 6: critician comes with that, well that's okay.
Speaker 4: Joggers to the right.
Speaker 5: The best place to be is on top, and there's
Speaker 5: an argument that the next best place to be is
Speaker 5: right down to bottom.
Speaker 1: And stuck in the middle as the hardest place to be.
Speaker 1: And they run into comin with the form team of
Speaker 1: the competition next. They've got a hard stretch ahead. Slightly
Speaker 1: bigger picture than that though for our real overreactions Gas
Speaker 1: the Saints are on the right path.
Speaker 2: I say real because there's no other path for them
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 3: They've got to hold a team together, as Ross said,
Speaker 3: with their senior players, but at the same time keep
Speaker 3: throwing younger talent through. And I guess that's what we
Speaker 3: want to see from now to the end of the
Speaker 3: year is continue to fold them through and hold up
Speaker 3: with your senior players, with your Marshalls and your Wilkies
Speaker 3: and those sorts of bokes through The last four Premiers
Speaker 3: have in the last ten years finished near the last
Speaker 3: or second last in that time, which.
Speaker 2: Takes you back. And this is their point a bit now.
Speaker 3: The lowest I've been is sixteenth, but they've just been
Speaker 3: around ten tenth, three times eleventh and twelfth, so they're
Speaker 3: stuck in the middle. Is beautiful that stuff there, and
Speaker 3: that's what Chris was alluding to as well, look at
Speaker 3: this and they're a bit the same. They did have
Speaker 3: an eighteenth finish eight years ago, but you know it's
Speaker 3: always eight, eleventh, thirteen, and eleventh, so you never bought
Speaker 3: him out there, so they've got no choice. But what
Speaker 3: is real, what is even more real, is that they
Speaker 3: have to be really smart at the draft table, and
Speaker 3: they have to really smart at the trade table.
Speaker 2: And that's in the hands of two really experienced men,
Speaker 2: and it's easy to said than done. But they're out there.
Speaker 3: There are players out there that can help you in
Speaker 3: the process without costing your fortune. And then if you're
Speaker 3: going to go big, make sure you go get the
Speaker 3: right way out and get them and get them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for you, Jared the sayings for an enticing proposition, No.
Speaker 1: That's an overreaction at the moment because it's really hard
Speaker 1: to see. All you can do is embark down this path.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking through the Zach Merritt proposition. If
Speaker 1: you've sat down and did the prospecting, did the forecasting
Speaker 1: on securita. It's impossible to say how and when they
Speaker 1: might be contending for a top.
Speaker 4: Four with what they have. But we're about to get.
Speaker 1: A referendum on it, aren't we On two fronts. Nasaiawang
Speaker 1: and Miller is inside the environment.
Speaker 4: He knows it intimately. He knows what the ambition and
Speaker 4: the dream is. Is he going to stay?
Speaker 1: And then Tom deconin on the outside and there's a
Speaker 1: bit of trepidation.
Speaker 4: Around this now.
Speaker 1: Clearly he's taking meetings around what it might look like
Speaker 1: to stay at Carlton, where for weeks it had been
Speaker 1: assumed that he was going to take the money. So
Speaker 1: you have to be able to see more than money.
Speaker 1: Where I do sympathize with them is you can't toss
Speaker 1: all of these players out. We've seen what that looks
Speaker 1: like and it's ghastly. They don't have the luxury of
Speaker 1: going zero and ten through the back end of the season,
Speaker 1: getting beaten by sixty and seventy points. And I like
Speaker 1: what Ross said about the integrity of selection. If these
Speaker 1: players form demands to play them, they must play so
Speaker 1: that they can integrate the young players.
Speaker 4: They have played them and they will play them.
Speaker 1: And this is where you trust Ross's judgment when is
Speaker 1: the right time to play them, that it won't stifle them,
Speaker 1: that it will educate them and they come into a
Speaker 1: system that has some semblance of order about it rather
Speaker 1: than just being tossed into play games. We've seen what
Speaker 1: that looks like. We've seen it at Melbourne. It set
Speaker 1: them back drastically. We saw it with the expansion team.
Speaker 1: Don't be too young and ruin what you're doing.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: They've got to come up with some sort of identifiable brand,
Speaker 1: I think over the back end of the season so
Speaker 1: that prospects look can go. Yeah, I can see myself
Speaker 1: in it, and I can see where it will end
Speaker 1: up once the A grade talent is added.
Speaker 2: And once you met it.
Speaker 3: I hope by the end of the year we're seeing
Speaker 3: Trevalier and Teru and Philippo and Wilson and Boxel all
Speaker 3: playing footy.
Speaker 2: That would be a good result if we can get
Speaker 2: there by the end of the year.
Speaker 4: The faithful have lost the faith.
Speaker 3: I say this is an over reaction because I've got
Speaker 3: faith in the faithful, if you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: which is not to say they won't be picking and
Speaker 3: choosing every now and then it's folly to suggest that
Speaker 3: there's a hardcore that will go anywhere and follow your
Speaker 3: footy team, and there are others that will prevaricate based
Speaker 3: on a whole host of circumstances, not just the form
Speaker 3: of the Saints. So I've got too much respect and
Speaker 3: i don't want to get hounded on Sekulta fans and
Speaker 3: they're they're a hardcore, hardy bunch. You're going through hell
Speaker 3: and only had one premiership. So anyone that continues to
Speaker 3: roll up for the Saints, I'm not going to say
Speaker 3: that they've lost faith, but there will be the odd
Speaker 3: choice to be made, and I suspect Thursday night at
Speaker 3: Marvel Stadium might have been one of those, one of
Speaker 3: those times Ross is being misrepresented real.
Speaker 1: I'll say this is real only in so far as
Speaker 1: so he told us what happened at Court of Time.
Speaker 1: I'll take him to his word on that. But it's
Speaker 1: not really about Thursday Night. This is a bigger picture.
Speaker 1: So he's been criticized for being too cuddly.
Speaker 4: That won't work.
Speaker 1: Too fierce, that's not for this generation anymore. So anytime
Speaker 1: he is expressive or demonstrative, he is drawing criticism to his.
Speaker 2: This is caught of time here.
Speaker 1: He needs to do what is right for him and
Speaker 1: for his group, and the second guessing he's got to
Speaker 1: get results from it. We can't curtail his coaching. He's
Speaker 1: been brought in to do this job. He has changed,
Speaker 1: He's told us his evolution from the first time he
Speaker 1: was there until now. But you can't give up all
Speaker 1: of what You can't plicate people on the outside, just
Speaker 1: coach the ears off them and get results when results can't.
Speaker 3: The thing about coaching is you just you've got to
Speaker 3: be your authentic self to that's the bottom line. So
Speaker 3: I've got no doubt that ross Lin will be his
Speaker 3: authentic self and didn't.
Speaker 2: Look that didn't look like a bake to me.
Speaker 3: I've seen Ross lyinas that looked like enthusiastic encouragement.
Speaker 4: Max King is in limbo.
Speaker 3: This is I do really feel for him, and because
Speaker 3: the hardest thing to talk about for us externally and
Speaker 3: even the medicos which we heard from Ross yesterday, is
Speaker 3: to try and ascertain what is going wrong, how much
Speaker 3: pain is involved in these things, and how much pain
Speaker 3: you can carry. They are the two of the great
Speaker 3: unknown questions in footy, and no one will ever be
Speaker 3: able to decipher who that is. That's an individual thing.
Speaker 3: Who says that your ability to carry pain or play
Speaker 3: with pain is better than mine based on something It's intangible.
Speaker 2: You can't measure it.
Speaker 3: So and in the meantime, all he wants to do
Speaker 3: is come out and repay the faith at a time
Speaker 3: when they desperately, deferately need him. And the harder he tries,
Speaker 3: the further away he gets from playing footy. So for him,
Speaker 3: that's an horrendous position to be in. As a footballer.
Speaker 3: You just want to get out and play, and every
Speaker 3: time you tea to step forward, there's two steps back.
Speaker 3: So I feel for him. I don't question him in
Speaker 3: any way, shape or form. I just hope, you know,
Speaker 3: as Ross told us, they've got to go back and
Speaker 3: test him, under load and to be something that they
Speaker 3: haven't beene able to get a handle.
Speaker 4: Hopefully.
Speaker 1: These are the years that Charlie Curno went through when
Speaker 1: it looked like he wouldn't get back, but he did, yes,
Speaker 1: and we have seen.
Speaker 4: The mist of him. So fingers crossed for him.
Speaker 1: Jesse Hogan and Patrick Cripps, two of the most decorated
Speaker 1: players in the game. The running Coleman medallists are two
Speaker 1: time Brown Bow medallists.
Speaker 4: The Crips of the Desk Jesse from Sydney,