1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Harry McKay undergoes surgery on his troublesome knee, adding to 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: a hellishly interrupted season, while Oscar Allen might have played 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: his last game at West Coast. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: The road ahead for Saint Kilda. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: Can the draft, talent and trade targets lift the Saints 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: from the mid table nightmare and. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: The raigning Brownlow and Coleman medallists Together On Players Night, 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Cripps and Jesse Hogan join us. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: We've talked about his step into it, embrace all of it, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: hit in the room and eat it. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that. 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain cape 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: the man on They played the best footy I've ever 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: seen at the start of the season. 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 4: And Andrew said President left the cup over said, of 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: course they do. 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: It is the stuff that legends are made of. What 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: is holding the ball? 19 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 5: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 20 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 5: that I can do something. 21 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: Wrong, you know, and I need to get on the board. 22 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 6: Sex meet the fans, lover and with no fans, no 23 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 6: through sixty year old. 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: The Angels are a bit nasty this Tuesday night. We'll 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: get to those shortly gas. But could you see Patrick 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Cripps put in the brown low metal around the neck 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: of Bailey Smith. 28 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I could, Jared. 29 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: I think I was going to say reluctantly, but if 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: he's in front at the end, you'd be worthy winner. 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: But I've just done a little bit of homeworking here. 32 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: Max Holmes is coming with a rush, so all of 33 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: a sudden you've got competition. So you go back to 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: two thousand and five Cousins twenty he won it with twenty. 35 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: Those are on twenty halfway through the seventh round and 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Kerr was nineteen. I mean Akka won with twenty 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: three and Michael Boss nineteen, so it can still be done. 38 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Max Holmes is coming. He's an eyecatcher, Jared. 39 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: He is an eye catcher. 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: Ow good to have. Jesseygany be awesome. 41 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: Looking forward to it a lot. 42 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Actually, there's a lot of key forward activity for you 43 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: to Patrick Cripps and Jesse Hogan together. Ray Chamberlain's taken 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: a special assignment about Sam Darcy and the challenges of 45 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: an umpireing a forward, so all bit of real overreaction 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: with As and Kilda Bentz. Then midweek tackle Lauren Woods 47 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: will lead the lads through the latest footy news that's 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: kicking around tonight Tomorrow night. Patrick Dangerfield is our headline 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: guests ahead of Game three hundred and fifty. Our coaches 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: will turn their eye to all matters footy and Brendan Favola. 51 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: Is going to stop by Ray Chamberlain with samda on 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: Sam Darci must must watch because this is going to 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: becoming during conversation through the rest of the years, this 54 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: huge man starts to dominate the competition. 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: All right, we start Tuesdays with a favorite. This was 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: an easy choice tonight. It is thirty years ago to 57 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: the day, June seventeen that one of the most famous 58 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: State of Origin games was staged at the MCG. You 59 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: were telling me about this a week ago. It is 60 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: thirty years ago today that EJ. Lapp was the starting 61 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: point of it. Wow, and the raw emotion that so 62 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: many felt that day, father and son together you put 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: us in the rooms for that. What a backdrop that 64 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: was for ninety what's thirty years ago today? He had 65 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: magnanimously handed the captain. 66 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: One word, Jared, Yes, look you want to have a 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: look at those highlights. This is so good and if 68 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: you don't get excited about stage footy. 69 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: On the back of this. This is Plugger. 70 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: I was playing half forward in a forward line that 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: had Stuart Lowe at Cinna Ford, Plugger and Gary Abbott 72 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: coming out of the goal square od Jes. It was 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: hard to get a kick there, and I'll tell you 74 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: right now, and those two men were on fire. 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: But you did manage to get a kick. 76 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Guys. 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: Now, I'm going, where's the fifty or whatever? 78 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: The fifteen or whatever it was? 79 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: The fifty, Sure it was a fifty, but no it. 80 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: Was Look it's that baby going. 81 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: There's an awesome day. And those two blokes. Just have 82 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: a look at them, Mark Bay. Look at all these 83 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: players under Andrew Jarmon played well that they pulcouts lit 84 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: the joint up. 85 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Basi is playing at center back. 86 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: That's his only kick on his right foot in his career, 87 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: and he hits Tony like a lace out and. 88 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: Then Plugger goes back and drills it. 89 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: And then in the end the two of them, Plugger 90 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: and Gazza just started together. 91 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it had a bit of. 92 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: Fun for young ru here. 93 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Rue was there. He played a good game. From memory, 94 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: I have to go back and watch this guy. 95 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ablet's fed Plugger. Plugger returned the favor. 96 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: There's two are waxing. 97 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: So they're taking the mick at this stage because we 98 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: gave him a fair old belting from memory. And that's 99 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: why I magnanimously just deferred to the great man and 100 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: let him come out and cap them. 101 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: Seven for Plugger, four for Ablett and Couchy kick three. 102 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: It's outstanding. God is a good player. 103 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: Paul couch put a hockey was playing that day, living 104 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: all those names in there. So David Young, David Neats, 105 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: Jimmy Stein's, Steve O. Schwader, this was the day's as 106 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: sauce in the back line. Nathan Burke was playing. So 107 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: this is why I stayed foot. He works, Jared is. 108 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: When they all stick their mids up, it's nothing better. 109 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: Sixty three point victors. 110 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Now it's a special night because these have been freshly 111 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: minted for the occasion. And this is for you, replica, 112 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: full replica the right badges and the collar. 113 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: Is this for miss the collar on sale? 114 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: They really gone on sale today wow AFL stores to 115 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: mark the thirtieth anniversary one of the most famous origin games. 116 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: Go ahead and get one, just wear somewhere and just 117 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: be proud one too, Jared, No, and you like the 118 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: Farno woll the mist Gids and we're at home, all right. 119 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: So that's a Tuesday favorite, if ever there was one. 120 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: I love it. Roth to Flyer. 121 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the agenda. It is dominated 122 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: by injury news, and the injury news is bad at Carlton. 123 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Harry McKay has undergone arthroscopic surgery on his knee, so 124 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: it wouldn't respond last week to the increased load. Michael 125 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Voss just planted the seed of trepidation in his postgame 126 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: press conference and that has come to pass. He's had 127 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: a hellishly interrupted season games. He's played seven out of 128 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: the thirteen games. So he was there for the Richmond game, 129 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: then he took his mental health break. 130 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 4: He came back. 131 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: God can Cuss had the facial fractures, plays five in 132 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: a row, including stirring turns against Geelong as the scene here, 133 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: and the silar against sin Kilda, and now it's knee 134 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: surgery that is going to keep him out until the 135 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: right at. 136 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 4: The back end of the season. 137 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the most important thing was he got back and 138 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: played a couple of outstanding games Jared, because I would 139 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: hate to have seen him go off, you know, potentially 140 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: for the rest of the season without reminding himself and 141 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: the rest of the foot he will just how good 142 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: a player he can be. 143 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: And I know that. 144 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's lots of conversations I had around the Carton 145 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: Fords and I've heard his name mentioned in dispatches. From 146 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: a trade point of view, I don't think that's what 147 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: Carlton will be looking. 148 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: At right now. 149 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: And you know, when you get back to it to 150 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: have Kerno and I don't think they might take them 151 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: made the most of it of Charlie and Harry, but 152 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm glad he came back and dominated against the Geelong 153 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: Football Club, who we wrote so very highly because that 154 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: just reminded everyone that and he's best. 155 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: He's an elite operator. 156 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: So no luck and potentially this weekend, I'm not sure 157 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: where it sits with Charlie, but Sam Walt's definitely out. 158 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so no calf damage. 159 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: So six to eight turnarounds, has to get through training 160 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday to prove himself. This is significant against North 161 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: He's kicked eighteen goals in the past four against the Kangers, 162 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: so he's had away with them, they. 163 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: Will be sitting in a game resting. 164 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: Don't take a risk with him, and it would be 165 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: I'd imagine if he well I don't actually know, but 166 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: he came off the ground, didn't he? 167 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: With that? 168 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: This calf injury against the West Coast Eagles in a 169 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: game that they pretty. 170 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: Much had in hand after court a time. 171 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: So they may have been ultra conservative Jared and they 172 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: So from that point of view, there'd be a chance. 173 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: But if it's a general tightness of a soft tissue 174 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: like a calf, you wouldn't play off six days. 175 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: But they may have been ultraconservative. 176 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: So how worrying that the Blues are tenth. 177 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: They're six and seven, they've won their two off the buy, 178 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: they've played stirring first terms and we'll talk to Patrick 179 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Crips around the rest of it. They came undone through 180 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: injury in part late last season and they are dealing 181 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: with that again right now. 182 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: Well, obviously it's a massive challenge. It's not who, it's 184 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: not how many injuries you get necessarily, it's who you 185 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: get them to. But they've also demned straight to capacity 186 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 3: to rise without some of these place through that time. 187 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, it's pretty desperate now though, and 188 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: we'll talk to Patrick when he comes in here. He 189 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: would be aware of that, but no Sam Walsh in 190 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: the middle of the ground, he would be shouldering a 191 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: pretty big burden in the coming weeks. And so from 192 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: a Kangaroos point of view is that they're sitting there 193 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: now going right. This is not that they don't get 194 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: themselves up for a game, but when you get opportunity 195 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: presented to you, potentially know how potentially no Charlie, potentially 196 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 3: Sam Walsh. 197 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: Well, they're coming at you big time thinking that they 198 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: can win. 199 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: And so maybe the biggest four weeks for Patrick while 200 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: he covers for a couple of. 201 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: His motes Oscar Allen, the injured news came back. It 202 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: wasn't the plantarist that West Coast we're hoping for, which 203 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: would have been short term. It is instead calf and 204 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: achilles damage. No surgery required on the achilles, but it's 205 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: a medium term injury. So you can sort of start 206 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: you counted about five weeks here. The long term asset 207 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: is not damaged, but the medium term is going to 208 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: be compromised. There's only nine games left in the Eagles season. 209 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, Oscar has had one little misstep depending on 210 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: who you talk to this year. Already, from a captain's 211 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: in leadership point of view, the path forward is clear 212 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: for him. He leads from the sidelines as hard as 213 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: he ever has, as hard as he captain this side. 214 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: If he's out for four weeks or six weeks, he's 215 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: doing everything in his power here and he's not talking 216 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: about whether he's going to be there at the end 217 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: of this year. He fronts his group and says, listen, 218 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: I'll be here every single morning, So anyone wants to 219 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: do extra gym session, I'm there for you. Anyone wants 220 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: to do some more ballwork while I'll be there, and 221 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: just go over and above in the next six weeks 222 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 3: while he's out with injury, and be the captain of 223 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: the football club that you're elected to be. That is 224 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: the only choice for us, Grewllan. None of this bulldusks 225 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: about oh will he boo there? Do they put him away? 226 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: And will he go to Brisbane? You're the captain of 227 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: this football club, captain, whilst you're injured on the boundary, 228 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: they need you more than they ever have your leadership 229 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: and support. 230 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: Andrew mcqualto who's going through a really difficult time. 231 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: As a young coach, and be he's sidekick and get 232 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: these boys up for the next six weeks. That's your 233 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: job as captain of the footy club. Not worrying about 234 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: you know, we're they're going to be there next year. 235 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Do what you're there to do this year. I like 236 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: that simple. Yeah, everyone else is going to want to 237 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: fold the tent here. 238 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: Don't fold the tent. Go and get out and work 239 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: harder than you ever have as a leader of this 240 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: football club. 241 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 4: All right. 242 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: So that's the injury news as it's landed on a 243 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: Brisbane Lions front. 244 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 4: They're going to come to Victoria tomorrow. 245 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: So the extended lead up to a Friday night that 246 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: has added magnitude is time to rise to the occasion. 247 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: For the Lions. It's a bit don't invent a crisis. 248 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: They've lost two or they've won two of their past six, 249 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: which we spoke about at length last night. Their games 250 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: in some sort of order, but this is a long 251 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: drought that they have experienced at Scadenia Park at GMHBA Stadium. 252 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: It's quite the losing streak to overcome. Ryan Lester gave 253 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: any insight into the thinking for the Brisbane I. 254 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 5: Think it's more what's the best prep for us to 255 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: give ourselves the best chance. 256 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: To get the resultant. 257 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: I think between the leaders and Fags and d D 258 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 5: sort of decided that Wednesday because obviously you fly to 259 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: Melbourn and then drive to Geelong, so that gives us 260 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: a full day Thursday to then you get some quality 261 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 5: out of our captain's run and then leave into Friday. 262 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 5: So yeah, whilst we haven't done it before, we did 263 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: something similar for the Grand Final, so yeah, it's our 264 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 5: best preparation to give us sales the best chance. 265 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: Then why not it adds. 266 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: To the magnitude of the build up down the highway 267 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: on Friday night when the Cats and the Lions meet. 268 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: I reckon total sense. 269 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: Then it makes total sense. 270 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: I mean, don't shy away from the fact you've lost. 271 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: You've only one two of your last sex you haven 272 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: one down there since two thousand and three, that's thirtey 273 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: in a row. 274 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Make it a bit special, build it up. 275 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: They't be scared to build it up and invest heavily 276 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: in it and then go what if we don't win? No, 277 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: No invest in this like it is the biggest game 278 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: of the year and see what happens. 279 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: They've put well, they've played against teams who have put 280 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: everything on the line. I reckon the Giants played as 281 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: if their season was at stake. Melbourne certainly did when 282 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: they went up there. So to flip that around a 283 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: little bit, is they should feel it? 284 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent they should. 285 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: And as we said last night, the man in charge 286 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 3: of this group knows all about this. There's nothing that 287 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: he hasn't seen in footy and understanding emotions and what 288 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: sort of leavers to pull. 289 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: And I like the. 290 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 3: Fact they're going to get down there a little bit 291 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: early and do something a little bit different. And you know, 292 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: there is a bit of backs to the wall about it. 293 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: Two wins and six and all of a sudden you 294 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: lose Jack Payne. So there is a bit of galvanizing 295 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: income together, so that man Darcy Ford's going to be important, 296 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 3: Darcy Garden is going to be important. 297 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: So that the track watchers clearly identified that Darcy Gardener 298 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: is going to be the replacement for Jack Payne. 299 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 4: Just in the way the session. 300 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: Fly, it appeared the obvious, doesn't it really When he 301 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: spent a hell of a little time back there. They've 302 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: been pinch hitting with him forward a bit, but he's 303 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: the obvious one. 304 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: When fague started, he had all of those things the 305 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: Lions hadn't done for such a long period of time. 306 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: I presume they've all been ticked off barra Win down 307 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: to Geelong. 308 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: There's a long time two thousand and three, Jared, So 309 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: this would be the time for them to get up 310 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: and about. 311 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 312 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be to be fantastic, and 313 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: just because they are a team who were always seemed 314 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: to be sell and control themselves the Brisbane line, so 315 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: there could be a bit of well you think a 316 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: bit of emotion injected into this to get themselves up 317 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: all right. 318 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: The other side of a Patrick Daniefield joins us tomorrow. 319 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Nice the furnace, So the furnace softeners the hottest topic 320 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: of the week. Ross lyin here last night was captivated 321 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: on a few fronts as he laid out the challenge 322 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: befoce and killed us. So with a bit of unrests 323 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: in the background, we've all tossed it in. It's red, 324 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: white and black in the furnace. 325 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 6: It's easy to have fun when you're winning, right Like 326 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 6: winning's fun. Someone said, I gave him as break all 327 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 6: the time. Can't be more positive. Forget the scoreboard. We're 328 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 6: doing everything right. Clearance is territory, but we're turning over 329 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 6: not trusting the contests. And that was written to angry Ross. 330 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 6: So I actually texted the jurne I said, I'm really disappointed. 331 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 6: So it tells me the narrative. People are trying to 332 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 6: paint around losses, which I do enjoy. But that's the 333 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 6: environment and the landscape. 334 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's plenty. 335 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 6: I hope we were in the top quarter, in the 336 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 6: top four for age experience as a club full cap 337 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 6: max and winning ten games an eleven games. With that profile, 338 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: you need to play finals. We weren't and we've shifted. 339 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: They they're just too good. 340 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Do you need the club, the team to look enticing 341 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: by the end of the year that the players that 342 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to attract can see the success. 343 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't hurt. 344 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 6: We have been trying to run a duel mayor it 345 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: even not just throw it all out, and we've been 346 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 6: trying to win as well as play. 347 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: A lot of kids, which we have. 348 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 6: We have some older players that are informed and we 349 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 6: need to play them and give them opportunity, and if 350 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 6: critician comes with that, well that's okay. 351 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: Joggers to the right. 352 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: The best place to be is on top, and there's 353 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: an argument that the next best place to be is 354 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 5: right down to bottom. 355 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: And stuck in the middle as the hardest place to be. 356 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: And they run into comin with the form team of 357 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: the competition next. They've got a hard stretch ahead. Slightly 358 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: bigger picture than that though for our real overreactions Gas 359 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: the Saints are on the right path. 360 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: I say real because there's no other path for them 361 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: to go. 362 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: They've got to hold a team together, as Ross said, 363 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: with their senior players, but at the same time keep 364 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: throwing younger talent through. And I guess that's what we 365 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: want to see from now to the end of the 366 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: year is continue to fold them through and hold up 367 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: with your senior players, with your Marshalls and your Wilkies 368 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: and those sorts of bokes through The last four Premiers 369 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: have in the last ten years finished near the last 370 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: or second last in that time, which. 371 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: Takes you back. And this is their point a bit now. 372 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: The lowest I've been is sixteenth, but they've just been 373 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: around ten tenth, three times eleventh and twelfth, so they're 374 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: stuck in the middle. Is beautiful that stuff there, and 375 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: that's what Chris was alluding to as well, look at 376 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: this and they're a bit the same. They did have 377 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: an eighteenth finish eight years ago, but you know it's 378 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: always eight, eleventh, thirteen, and eleventh, so you never bought 379 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: him out there, so they've got no choice. But what 380 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: is real, what is even more real, is that they 381 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: have to be really smart at the draft table, and 382 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: they have to really smart at the trade table. 383 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: And that's in the hands of two really experienced men, 384 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: and it's easy to said than done. But they're out there. 385 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: There are players out there that can help you in 386 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: the process without costing your fortune. And then if you're 387 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: going to go big, make sure you go get the 388 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: right way out and get them and get them. Yeah, 389 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: for you, Jared the sayings for an enticing proposition, No. 390 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: That's an overreaction at the moment because it's really hard 391 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: to see. All you can do is embark down this path. 392 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: But I was thinking through the Zach Merritt proposition. If 393 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: you've sat down and did the prospecting, did the forecasting 394 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: on securita. It's impossible to say how and when they 395 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: might be contending for a top. 396 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: Four with what they have. But we're about to get. 397 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: A referendum on it, aren't we On two fronts. Nasaiawang 398 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: and Miller is inside the environment. 399 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 4: He knows it intimately. He knows what the ambition and 400 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: the dream is. Is he going to stay? 401 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: And then Tom deconin on the outside and there's a 402 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: bit of trepidation. 403 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 4: Around this now. 404 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Clearly he's taking meetings around what it might look like 405 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: to stay at Carlton, where for weeks it had been 406 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: assumed that he was going to take the money. So 407 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you have to be able to see more than money. 408 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: Where I do sympathize with them is you can't toss 409 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: all of these players out. We've seen what that looks 410 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: like and it's ghastly. They don't have the luxury of 411 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: going zero and ten through the back end of the season, 412 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: getting beaten by sixty and seventy points. And I like 413 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: what Ross said about the integrity of selection. If these 414 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: players form demands to play them, they must play so 415 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: that they can integrate the young players. 416 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: They have played them and they will play them. 417 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: And this is where you trust Ross's judgment when is 418 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: the right time to play them, that it won't stifle them, 419 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: that it will educate them and they come into a 420 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: system that has some semblance of order about it rather 421 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: than just being tossed into play games. We've seen what 422 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: that looks like. We've seen it at Melbourne. It set 423 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: them back drastically. We saw it with the expansion team. 424 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: Don't be too young and ruin what you're doing. 425 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 4: Now. 426 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: They've got to come up with some sort of identifiable brand, 427 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: I think over the back end of the season so 428 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: that prospects look can go. Yeah, I can see myself 429 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: in it, and I can see where it will end 430 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: up once the A grade talent is added. 431 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: And once you met it. 432 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: I hope by the end of the year we're seeing 433 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: Trevalier and Teru and Philippo and Wilson and Boxel all 434 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: playing footy. 435 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: That would be a good result if we can get 436 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: there by the end of the year. 437 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 4: The faithful have lost the faith. 438 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: I say this is an over reaction because I've got 439 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: faith in the faithful, if you know what I mean, 440 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: which is not to say they won't be picking and 441 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: choosing every now and then it's folly to suggest that 442 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: there's a hardcore that will go anywhere and follow your 443 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: footy team, and there are others that will prevaricate based 444 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: on a whole host of circumstances, not just the form 445 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: of the Saints. So I've got too much respect and 446 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: i don't want to get hounded on Sekulta fans and 447 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: they're they're a hardcore, hardy bunch. You're going through hell 448 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: and only had one premiership. So anyone that continues to 449 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: roll up for the Saints, I'm not going to say 450 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: that they've lost faith, but there will be the odd 451 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: choice to be made, and I suspect Thursday night at 452 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: Marvel Stadium might have been one of those, one of 453 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: those times Ross is being misrepresented real. 454 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: I'll say this is real only in so far as 455 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: so he told us what happened at Court of Time. 456 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: I'll take him to his word on that. But it's 457 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: not really about Thursday Night. This is a bigger picture. 458 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: So he's been criticized for being too cuddly. 459 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 4: That won't work. 460 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: Too fierce, that's not for this generation anymore. So anytime 461 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: he is expressive or demonstrative, he is drawing criticism to his. 462 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: This is caught of time here. 463 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: He needs to do what is right for him and 464 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: for his group, and the second guessing he's got to 465 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: get results from it. We can't curtail his coaching. He's 466 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: been brought in to do this job. He has changed, 467 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: He's told us his evolution from the first time he 468 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: was there until now. But you can't give up all 469 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: of what You can't plicate people on the outside, just 470 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: coach the ears off them and get results when results can't. 471 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: The thing about coaching is you just you've got to 472 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: be your authentic self to that's the bottom line. So 473 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: I've got no doubt that ross Lin will be his 474 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: authentic self and didn't. 475 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: Look that didn't look like a bake to me. 476 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: I've seen Ross lyinas that looked like enthusiastic encouragement. 477 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: Max King is in limbo. 478 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: This is I do really feel for him, and because 479 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 3: the hardest thing to talk about for us externally and 480 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: even the medicos which we heard from Ross yesterday, is 481 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: to try and ascertain what is going wrong, how much 482 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: pain is involved in these things, and how much pain 483 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: you can carry. They are the two of the great 484 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: unknown questions in footy, and no one will ever be 485 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: able to decipher who that is. That's an individual thing. 486 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: Who says that your ability to carry pain or play 487 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: with pain is better than mine based on something It's intangible. 488 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: You can't measure it. 489 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: So and in the meantime, all he wants to do 490 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: is come out and repay the faith at a time 491 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: when they desperately, deferately need him. And the harder he tries, 492 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: the further away he gets from playing footy. So for him, 493 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: that's an horrendous position to be in. As a footballer. 494 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: You just want to get out and play, and every 495 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 3: time you tea to step forward, there's two steps back. 496 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: So I feel for him. I don't question him in 497 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: any way, shape or form. I just hope, you know, 498 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: as Ross told us, they've got to go back and 499 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 3: test him, under load and to be something that they 500 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: haven't beene able to get a handle. 501 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 4: Hopefully. 502 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: These are the years that Charlie Curno went through when 503 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: it looked like he wouldn't get back, but he did, yes, 504 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: and we have seen. 505 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 4: The mist of him. So fingers crossed for him. 506 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: Jesse Hogan and Patrick Cripps, two of the most decorated 507 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: players in the game. The running Coleman medallists are two 508 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: time Brown Bow medallists. 509 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: The Crips of the Desk Jesse from Sydney,