WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 3 February 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:07.280 On scorn Lives Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.640 Good evening and welcome to the reader Patty Show coming 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:16.320 up tonight. Ugly attacks against Peter Dunton intensify, with at 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.720 least one fellow MP launching into a defamatory attack. Food 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:25.720 manufacturers warned the Albanezy government to abandon its ideological follies 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:30.200 and invest in cheap, reliable energy. Carnie West and his 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:35.600 Australian wife calls outrage at the Grammys with a nude stunt. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.880 President Donald Trump steps in to save South African farmers 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:45.320 from compulsory land acquisitions. Joining me tonight, Dan, while Josh Hammer, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.680 Kinsey Schofield and the man behind a groundbreaking documentary you 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.280 can't afford to miss and of course Left is losing 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.320 it tonight featuring the ladies of the View who are 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:01.840 very mad. Indeed, with Donald Trump's new White House Press secretary, she. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.280 Said something yesterday that really pissed me off. And that 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.240 was she said there will be no warkness here. Oh yeah, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:13.199 let me explain something to you, because without that warkness you. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.559 Might not have that job. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.319 Joining me now is Deputy Executive Director of the Institute 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.680 of Public Affairs DAN. While DAN, let's start with the 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:27.400 food industry in revolt over the Albanese government's renewable energy targets. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.080 Major food distributors are copying power bill increases of over 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:36.440 fifty percent. Independent food Distributors Australia whose members use large 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.880 industrial fridges and freezers to supply food to over sixty 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:45.120 thousand supermarkets, restaurants and cafes. They've called on Labor to 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:49.440 invest in coal and gas to return energy prices to 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.480 more affordable levels. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:52.360 DAN. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:57.240 They're warning that the ideological folly of the Labor Party 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.680 is impacting the viability of these business. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.320 Well, they're absolutely spot on, and I think it's refreshing 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.560 to hear an industry association speak some common sense about 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.800 what's happening. I mean, many of their members basically at 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.440 the front line of the energy crisis in terms of 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.600 how it impacts everyday people with food prices, and absolutely 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.840 we need to have more coal and more gas in 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.280 the system in order to get prices down. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.000 I mean, you and I have been saying this for 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:26.920 years and years. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.359 You have to have baseload power, which operates twenty four 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.440 to seven rain, hail or shine to have a modern 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.840 economy and society like we have in Australia. And it 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:43.520 wasn't surprising, unfortunately to hear Chris Bowen immediately reject this, 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.400 this intervention into the debate, and he's doubling down on 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.959 Labour's failed energy policy, which is renewables, only renewables everywhere. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.239 And you know when the wind doesn't blow and the 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.639 sun doesn't shine, then there's no power generated and we 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.839 fall back on coalon and gas. So, like I say, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.120 this is a very well an important intervention into the 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.720 debate and hopefully it spurs some common sense in Canberra. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:09.760 Well, I don't you know if we're going to see 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.839 much common sense. You mentioned Chris Bowen. It's not just him. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:19.760 The Albanza government's ministers seem incpable of shifting their focus 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:24.280 from net zero obsessions, and they also have this absolute 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:29.519 refusal to consider nuclear as a solution. Here's Environment Minister 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.760 Tania Plibasak. The simple thing we know is it's too expensive, 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.160 it's too slow, and it'll add twelve hundred bucks to 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.000 your bills if ever they get built there you go. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.960 According to her, it's going to add twelve hundred dollars 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:46.040 to our power bills. It's too expensive, it's too slow, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.240 and yet the experience around the world is very different. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.720 Dan, Yeah, she might've got a notes mixed up. I 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.960 think the twelve hundred dollars is what labor has added 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.080 to your power bills over the last three years. You know, 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.000 the problem here is just no credibility from the government 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.119 on this issue. When nuclear was first floated, they put 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.680 out memes of three eyed fish and you know, radiation 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.320 and all the rest of it, and they failed to 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.240 actually engage in a proper debate. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:17.120 That's the first thing. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.600 They haven't actually treated this with the respect and dignity 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:21.159 it deserves. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:21.960 They've dismissed it. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.560 Secondly, they've got no credibility because just look at what's 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.320 happened under their government. Have prices gone up or gone down? 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.960 Have we had more jobs in industry or fewer jobs? 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.560 Has life gotten easier or harder? It's pretty straightforward. So 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.400 if they had to run this argument three years ago, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.320 well maybe they have some cut through. But I think 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.120 Australias look at this and they say, well, you've been 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.159 in government for three years, what have you've done for 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:43.640 me lately? 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.240 Now, Lydia Thorpe seems oblivious to the fact that we 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.559 have some very strong defamation laws in this country. Listen 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.080 to these comments she made about Opposition leader Peter Dutton, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:04:59.120 quite remarkable. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:11.320 Is a racist. Dutton is a violent person. Dutton used 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.240 to be a Queensland police officer who caused damage to 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.960 a lot of black follows on the street, you know, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.279 wheel and his power around the streets. So I'm not 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:28.840 surprised by his rhetoric. It's what we need to eradicate 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.840 in this country. You know, white people are becoming the 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.400 minority in this country, and I think they're really scared 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.240 of that. You know, black and brown people are rising 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.080 up and they're getting more and more desperate in their messaging. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:48.080 So she describes Pitta Dutton, they're as racist violent. What 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.640 do you make of those comments there, Dan, including what 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.719 she said about white Australians. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.760 Well, I think Lydia Thorpe is probably the biggest asset 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.240 that the Liberal Party has, you know, to be honest 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.760 with you, you know, we owe Lydia Thorpe a great debt 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.280 of gratitude for helping to defeat the racially divisive Voice 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.839 to Parliament, and she's probably going to help make Prime 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.080 Minister mate Peter Dutton, the next Prime Minister, because I 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.360 just think the more Australians hear of this accusations of 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.120 racism and the rest of it, I think they look 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.200 at that and firstly, it just doesn't stack up. I 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.880 don't think she gave any particular examples of it. And secondly, look, 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.040 Australia is not a racist country. We're sick and tired 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.000 of being told that. And her comments about you know, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.080 white Australians and black Australians is divisive. I mean, this 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.919 just goes down the path of division that we're seeing 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.080 from these activists. They've got nothing positive to offer, only 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.120 more division. And I would have thought they'd learned their 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.160 lesson from the whole Voice to Parliament debate and what 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.000 we're seeing now with the rejection of work, identity politics 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.240 and Australians pushing back against a treaty and the rest 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.200 of it. But you know, some of them just continue. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.120 But like I say, I think the more that she talks, 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.200 the more primary votes of Liberal Party will get. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.960 Now to the US, Donald Trump's impact is being felt 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.159 far and wide. We're going to be discussing the tariffs shortly. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.840 But the President signed an executive order requiring US federal 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.880 employees to remove pronouns from their names from things like 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:22.400 email signatures. And this is having impact all around the world, Dan, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.560 And we've heard about Sadiq Kahan removing pronouns from his 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.640 Twitter bio and Chris Mins, the new South Wales premiere, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.680 is also abiding by this presidential order. Let's look at 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.760 his Instagram profile before there you go, hear him as 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.920 if it needs to be said, and the pronouns are 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.720 now gone. Dan his offers is claiming that he wasn't 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.000 even aware that the pronouns were added in the first place. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:56.520 But really things have changed. There has been a change 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.960 in the culture. There's been a change in the narrative here, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.040 and people are beginning to realize, even people on the left, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.480 just how ridiculous this whole notion is. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.120 Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's good to know Chris 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:11.880 Mins is a man. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.160 I think a lot of people probably struggle to figure 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.720 that out on their own accord. So good that we've 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.720 saidled that one. Look, I think you're right. The election 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.280 of Trump was quite significant. You know, it came on 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.080 the back of the defeat of the Voice to Parliament 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.720 as well, and Brexit and many other movements in the 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:33.360 Western world. And basically what's happened is regular people are 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.720 feeling more confident in voicing their opinions. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:36.920 On these issues. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.960 I'd also say not just on the sort of woke 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.560 identity politics, but also on climate change and migration, which 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.040 were always considered controversial topics. People are now much more 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.320 comfortable in expressing their true opinions. They now know that 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:54.200 they're not in a minority. You know, every normal person 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.120 is sick and tired of seeing, you know, the usual 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.000 carry on on email signatures or the diversity highest and 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.800 all of the mandates that go with it. So we 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.080 are seeing a lot of social proof and like I say, 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.360 people are finding their voices. There's a lot of political 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:12.079 standard bearers that are now speaking up. So I am 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.520 quite hopeful that the era of DEI is now coming 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.520 to an end. It's going to take some time to 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.520 eradicate it from our public offices and also the big corporates, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.120 but clearly things have changed, I think in a very 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.680 positive way over the last twelve to eighteen months. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.200 Now. Donald Trump's tariffs are seeing the Canadian and Mexican 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:38.160 currencies in free for all their value is diving. The 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.439 North American trade war is well and truly underway. Dan, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.479 how do you see this progressing and in this Australian 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.000 in a position to capitalize. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.360 Yeah, well, I think no one's say from Trump. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.160 Really, he's going to change the global lord in a 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.000 lot of ways, and not just with economics, in with 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.200 regards to Canada in Mexico, but he's wanting to exert 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.480 more influence over Greenland, he wants to take back the 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.440 Panama Canal. He's been very active in the Middle East 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.280 and in Russia and in China. So I think next 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.960 stop is probably you know, Antarctica for you know, who 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.280 knows what he's going to do there. So it's you know, 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.920 no one is safe from when Trump turns his sites 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.400 onto you look for Australia. There's opportunities, but there's big risks. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.319 We have been somewhat recalcitrant in our capacity to deliver 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.760 on our defense commitments, particularly around our spending. We only 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.800 spend about two percent of GDP on defense. That needs 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.960 to get to at least three percent, and it also 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.920 needs to be spent much more effectively and in a 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.280 manner that's actually going to provide serious war fighting capabilities, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.240 and we saw last time Trump was in he basically 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.680 forced the NATO allies to start increasing their spending on defense. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.880 It's also a gripe that he has with Canada, so 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.480 and it's probably fairly legitimate in that sense. So we 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.440 are going to have to be very careful and make 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.760 sure that we're paying attention to the considerations of the 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.560 true administration. We shouldn't just do whatever he says or wants, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.640 but we do need to be aware of the alliance 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:05.880 and our role in that alliance. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.680 Well, it's all about America first with Donald Trump. That 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.680 was his election promise and that's what he's delivering. But 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.960 that doesn't mean he's not paying attention to what's happening 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.800 around the world. And President Trump has hit out at 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:25.160 South Africa after its president signed a new law allowing 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:30.080 the state to confiscate land without compensation. President Trump has 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.920 vowed to withhold all US funding from South Africa until 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.800 the decision is a reverse. Dan more, can you tell 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:39.360 me about this? 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.240 I mean, well, South Africa has been in a period 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.000 of decline and division for many years now, and you 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.319 know the hundreds of thousands of people who have left 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.319 South Africa many of whom have come to Australia is 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.439 testament to that they have fled and the violence there 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.800 and the crime and the deterioration of their institutions has 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.640 been a be concerned for a long time, and you know, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.920 Trump seems pretty you know, pretty set on trying to 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.319 correct that where he can. And clearly, I mean, the 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.760 US is such a big player in the global market, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.640 whether it's to do with the economic side of it 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.960 or as we're discussing, the foreign aid side of it, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.679 that when they decide to change their arrangements, they do 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.959 have significant leverage over what other countries do. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.480 So look away and see what happens. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.840 But clearly, I think a lot of people have been 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.080 looking at South Africa for some time and you know, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.160 a change may very well be on the way. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:35.520 Now. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.559 Before you go, Dan, I know a lot of our 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:42.160 viewers are members of Quantus's frequent fly programs, so they'll 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.120 be interested in this story. The Australian reports that Quantus 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.880 is again under fire for the poor value of its 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.320 frequent fly program after it was revealed that members of 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:57.280 rival airline loyalty programs can access Quantus reward seeds for 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:02.160 much cheaper at less points then the Quantus frequent flyers. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.920 Let's look at this example. If you book through Alaskan Airlines, 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.439 you can get a Quantus business class seat from Perth 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.080 to Paris for just eighty five thousand miles plus one 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.360 hundred and twenty two dollars. But if you want to 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.920 use Quantus's own program to book that Quantus seat, it's 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.400 going to cost you four hundred and fifty one dollars 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.319 and more than one hundred and twenty six thousand points 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:31.280 exact same seat. Alaska Airs Mileage program is also free 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.560 dan whilst Quantus charged ninety nine dollars to join their 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:40.240 frequent flyer program. How do they justify this? Because when 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.960 you do fly Contus, you do pay a premium and 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.440 you do it to support the national carrier. But they 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.600 don't seem to be treating their customers with the love 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:50.720 and care you'd expect. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:53.640 Well. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.960 I think the issue here is the lack of domestic 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.840 competition in Australia. I mean, basically you can choose between 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.240 Contus or Virgin or or Jetstar, but of course Jetstar 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.800 is a subsidiary of Quantas, so there's not much you 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.240 can really do. There's not many shopping around opportunities in 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.240 our domestic market, so Quantas can get away with charging 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.280 comparatively higher prices. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:15.800 Than the otherwise would. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:20.240 We saw the anti competitive tendencies of this government just 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.240 over the last couple of years with the decision to 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:27.320 stop Qatar Airways from running more roots into Australia, and 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.000 that of course benefits the largest incumbnant, which is Quantus. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.240 So look, I think if you remove some of the 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.000 barriers to entry in the Australian aviation market, you will 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.640 see more pressure on Corners and virgin and you know, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.120 maybe they will start charging a fairer price. But I 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:42.560 certainly won't be holding my breath. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.320 Dan will thank you for your time tonight. Joining me 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.320 now is Travis Brown, the writer and director of a 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:55.680 brand new docu series, Uncomfortable Truths The Reality of gender 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.200 identity ideology. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.960 Since twenty seventeen, the number of you to identify as 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.200 transgender as nearly double. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.680 You can't tell what your gender is by looking at 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.479 your body. Gender is something you feel on the inside. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.760 When you were little, did you feel like you were 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.040 trapped in the wrong body? 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:14.560 Yeah. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.360 Admiral Rachel Levine is a groundbreaking leader public health champion, 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.040 and an advocated. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.840 It sucks. That was sweet? Huh did you like that? 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.440 Every woman in this turn better look out. I'm freaking coming. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.640 The documentary series will be available for streaming on x 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.200 and YouTube later this month. Travis, thanks for your time. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.640 Tell me what compelled you to make this series. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.040 Well, I started reading about what was happening, in particular 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.960 with kids, and also around women's spaces and men entering 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.640 into women's prisons and that sort of thing. But my 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.480 primary concern was what I was learning what was going 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.400 on with kids, primarily from reading Abergol Schreyer's book and 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:03.800 then more rec only Helen Joyce's book trans and I 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.880 just thought I have to cover this topic. I mean, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.440 this is like a new, weird religious cult that's overtaken 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:14.240 society and we need to put us up to it now. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.440 Often have people ask me, how did we get here? 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.720 How did it get so crazy? How did this lunacy 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.720 take hold? And you mentioned Helen Joyce there and you 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.640 interview her for this series, and she had this interesting take. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.520 I think one of the reasons that all of this 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.880 has got so far is that it's so crazy. It 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.360 doesn't sound like anyone could possibly think it. So when 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.560 I started saying to people, you know, they're actually they 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.440 are telling children that sexis a spectrum. You know, they're 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.440 turning four or five six year olds that they're you know, 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.640 they were assigned to sex at birth. But that was 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.520 just a guest that the medical professional guest, and they're 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.640 waiting for that child to tell us whether they're male 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:51.360 or a female. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.400 People would think like. 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.680 She has to be exaggerating, she's misunderstood something. They're not 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:56.680 really saying that. 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.880 Why did this movement be come so powerful that have 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.600 had disproportionate power and influence in the culture, in laws, 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.959 in sport, in just about every facet of life in 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.080 the West, despite the fact that really they represent the 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.360 views of such a tiny minority. Even when you look 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:21.600 at the activists who are really quite powerful in that area, 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:26.119 it's hard to ascertain where their power comes from. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.360 Sure, yeah, I think there's a complex history in terms 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.960 of what laid the foundation for all this to build up. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.560 But I think there are two primary factors that allowed 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.000 it to take off, one of which is that a 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.680 lot of people were on, as they like to say, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.960 the wrong side of history when it came to know 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.400 gay marriage and that sort of thing. So a lot 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.000 of people just see this as the new rights frontier. 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:49.920 Hele and Joyce has talked a lot about this as well, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.560 and many other people that I interviewed. But that's one 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.240 of the reasons. People want to be on the right 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.639 side of history, and so they want to be forward 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.280 thinking and they think, oh, well, if you can be 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.639 you know, born gay or lesbian, well then clearly you 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.040 can be born in the wrong body, regardless of how 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.960 absurd that sounds and how ridiculous it is. That's one 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:10.639 reason people want to be a part of this new 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.359 rights frontier. The other reason, in my opinion, is that 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:18.560 as religious, you know, affiliation has declined so drastically, especially 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.080 in the last twenty or thirty years. I think people 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.560 are wanting to fill that void and have a sense 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.720 of meaning. Both the people that are participating in the 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.080 ideology and pushing it as well as a lot of 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.000 these kids that are kind of lost and want to 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:35.040 sort of transcend their bodies by finding, you know, a 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.160 new body and a new identity. I think I think 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:38.520 that plays into it as well. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.840 Now, one of the most sinister aspects of this ideology 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:51.159 is the medical interventions performed on youngsters, often very confused youngsters, 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.720 and the manner in which activist doctors have really dominated 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:56.760 the narrative. 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.679 So what we do know is that not all from 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:04.120 that we have the capacity to make a reason logical decision. 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.040 And here's the other thing about if you want breasted 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:10.959 at a later point in your life, you could go 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.320 and get them. This is the most careful and thoughtful 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.000 type of medicine I have ever practiced. 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:22.320 I think that what's horrifying is that there are a 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.879 lot of people now raising a concern around whether this 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.760 is the right treatment for children. I'm not saying it 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:35.080 might not be the right decision for adults, but the 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.960 people who raise concerned are deemed as bigots or transphobes. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:45.879 Travis, that first doctor we heard from their just mind 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.440 blowing to me that she could say that out loud. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.080 I mean, what does it matter if you remove the 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.840 healthy breasts or some confused girl. She can just get 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.399 in plants later if she changes her mind. The cavalier 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:03.920 attitude they have which children's bodies is astonishing and disturbing. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.800 Truly. Yeah, that doctor Kennedy Olsen is one of the worst. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.800 She operates out of California and has tried to bury 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:17.280 some documents that she's just showing how terrible this stuff is. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.840 And she's been at the forefront, you know, for quite 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.240 a while at this sort of thing, and yeah, I 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.560 just it kind of blows your mind to think about 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.560 how callous, in different and ridiculous these people can be. 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.879 It really is, And I encourage everybody to watch. This 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.040 documentary comes out later this month on the twenty second 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.000 of February at Travis Brown. Thank you so much for 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:41.879 your time this evening. 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.320 Thank you, thank you so much for having me Stale 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:45.800 to come. 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.680 It's time for lefties a losing it. Plus new Poland 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.879 shows that the Democrats are sinking to new lows. Josh 0:20:53.880 --> 0:21:07.359 Hammer Quarantine X welcome back. Now it's time for lefties 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.399 losing it and let's start with the perpetually outraged ladies 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.960 of the view. They never failed to bring copious amounts 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.959 of bile and hate, and one of their targets of ladies, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.920 White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt here is Willpe Goldberg, 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.480 saying she only got the job due to wokeness. 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.840 What I would like this young lady who's this is 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:32.440 her first job. I would like her to do a 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:36.159 little homework because she said something yesterday and really pissed 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.159 me off. And that was she said, there will be 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.520 no wokeness here. Oh yeah, let me explain something to you, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.080 because without that wokness you might not have that job. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.399 No whoopee Kreeine. Jean Pierre got the job because of wokeness. 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.560 You and your old mate Joy Behar may have your 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.160 jobs because of wokeners, But do not smear a competent 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.760 professional woman like Caroline le It with your nonsense. And 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.679 don't lie about this being her first job. We know 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.240 what you're doing there. And I mentioned Joy beiha. Here 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:12.720 is Joy objectifying the White House pre secretary, saying she 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.080 only has the job because she's hot. 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:18.359 She's probably been put in there because according to Donald Trump, 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:19.000 she's a ten. 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:20.840 You know, that's what it is. 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.640 I want to be clear though it's not her first job. 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:23.720 It was her first press briefing. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:28.200 She worked with the previous you know what. 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.439