1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: For this week's bonus episode a Big Business, I thought 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: I would tell you exactly how we pay April in 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: particular when we are traveling for work. Now, obviously this 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: doesn't exclusively apply to April, but I'm doing this off 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: the back of us recently going to China together and 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: I got a few dms on our Big Business podcast 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Instagram account of people wanting to know a little bit 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: more about how that works. And I have touched on 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: this in an episode last year, but it was a 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: whole episode about like influences and staff being on social 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: media and all that kind of stuff. But I thought 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: I would do a dedicated episode and tell you exactly 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: how we pay our staff when they are traveling, whether 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: it's around Australia, you know, going to visit our stores, 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: or if it's an overseas trip like April and I 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: just going to China last week. If you or me 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: on socials, you would have seen that we were running 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: a muck and having the best time in China. But 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: this episode, in particular, I thought I would run through 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: how we pay our staff when going on a trip 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: like that, and what they have to pay for versus 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: what we pay for just for anyone who is nosy, 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: So let's just jump straight into it, and it's pretty straightforward, 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: like it's not rocket science. I thought I would also 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: mention this is how we pay our staff, and I'm 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: not here saying this is how every company out there 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: pays their staff when they're traveling for a work trip. 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: Every company is different. They would have different employee contracts 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: and salaries and stuff might be written into contracts. I 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: have no idea, but this is just an example of 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: how we pay someone. So as everyone knows, I've just 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 1: taken April with me on a fabric sourcing trip to China, 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: and this is how we structure how she gets paid. 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: So firstly, her flights and accommodation are completely covered by us. Obviously, 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: she flew business class for the first time and had 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: the best time, so we covered the business class flight, 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: and she also had her own hotel room the whole 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: time the whole trip. Sometimes when we've done random work trips, 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: depending on what we're doing, we might get like a 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: twin room. We've worked together for over five years and 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: she's always happy to share a room. But I thought, 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: for this trip in particular, let's have our own rooms. 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna, you know, have big days, We're gonna be 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: walking everywhere. So I booked April her own room just 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: so at the end of the day we could just 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, have our own separate spaces to relax and unwind. 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: So flights were covered, hotel was covered, and also all 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: transfers were covered. So you know, once we landed in China, 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: anytime we were jumping in a d d over there, 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: they don't have uber obviously we're gonna be covering those 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: as well. In terms of paying April her regular weekly wage, 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: she got paid her regular weekly wage, the stock standard 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: thirty eight hour week. She got paid that as well 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: as a public holiday rate on one of those days 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: because it was actually a public holiday in Australia on 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: the first day or like the second day that we 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: were there, because we landed the night before. So she 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: actually got really lucky because she got paid public holiday 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: rates for the Monday that we were in China, even 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: though it's not a public holiday in China, it's a 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: public holiday at home, and because we were going to 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the fabric market that day, she got public holiday rates. 63 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: What a win. April also got paid travel time or 64 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: a travel allowance for the flight over to China as 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: well as the flight's back, so she gets her regular 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: weekly pay as well as travel time allowance for the 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: flight over to China and the flight back. Now company 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: to company, this will vary. Our staff are not on salaries. 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: We have never had a staff member be on a salary. Therefore, 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: if we are having someone go in their personal time 71 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: on a flight outside of their ordinary thirty eight hours, 72 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: we pay a travel fee. It may be different if 73 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: someone's working for a company and let's say they're on 74 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: a ninety thousand dollars salary. I don't know how it works, 75 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: but it might be written in their agreement that that 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: also includes if they ever need to travel for work, 77 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: but I can't talk about that because I've never done 78 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: anything like that. So all the flight time from China 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: back home, and then obviously from Australia to China, she 80 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: gets paid additionally for that, and that's because she is 81 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: on an hourly rate. I've spoken about this in episodes 82 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: before as well, like way back last year. But that's 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: a fun fact about us. All of our staff are 84 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: on an hourly wage, and I've spoken about it on 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: social media a little bit too, and so many people 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: got confused and said, so, what are they not full 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: time employees then, and do they not accrue leave? And 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: the answer that is yes, full time employees can be 89 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: on an hourly rate and still do you know the 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight hour week and a crew or the leave. 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: We just pay them hourly, but you can still work 92 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: out what they earn in a year. So even though 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: our staff are on an hourly rate, they still know 94 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: what their like yearly salary is. They can still know that, 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: but it just means if they ever work like an 96 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: hour beyond their ordinary hours, we pay it to them extra. 97 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Whereas I feel like some people that might be on 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: a salary, and again I can't speak from experience, if 99 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: they work an extra hour here or on extra two 100 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: hours their week, I feel like it kind of gets 101 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: lost and you know, it's like, oh, you're on a salary, 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: just get the work done. Whereas our staff being on 103 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: hourly rates, if they're working back for any reason, which 104 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: we never want to encourage our staff to do, like 105 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: no one should be like staying back and working, but 106 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: if they do, they get paid more for that because 107 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: of that hourly rate. So April got paid for her 108 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: travel to China and back. When staff are traveling, we 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: obviously then also cover all meals, food, snacks, drinks. So 110 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: anytime we grabbed a drink from seven to eleven, or 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: whether it's a bottle of water, a can of Monster 112 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: because they didn't have fee over there, or if we 113 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: were going out for dinner or whatever it may be, 114 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: we cover all of that as well. The only thing 115 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: that we don't pay for when traveling is if April 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: wants to do any kind of personal shopping, but that's 117 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: about it. So we cover every single thing on the trip, 118 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: all flights, accommodation, transfer, travel time allowance, all meals and drinks. 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: The only thing that I won't cover is if she 120 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: wants to buy a La booboo or something like that. 121 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: And that's how we pay a staff member traveling overseas 122 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: on a trip in terms of her working hours. Obviously, 123 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: when we are walking around and going to the fabric market, 124 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: she's getting paid for those. When we're making all our videos, 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: she's getting paid for those hours. But in terms of 126 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: her and the videos that you would have seen of us, 127 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: like going out for dinner and like doing random taste 128 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: testing things, it's not required of April to do that. 129 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: But she's just more than happy too, you know, like 130 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: we could be just going to the fabric market in 131 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the day, she could go back to the hotel and go, yep, 132 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm done for the day. I'll see you tomorrow. But 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: obviously she's excited she's in China. Of course she'll want 134 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: to come out for dinner with me and all that 135 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But it is in no way, I guess, 136 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: written in her agreement that she must come out for 137 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: dinner with me or go for a walk around the streets. 138 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: But she is just obviously more than happy and excited 139 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: to do that. But that's a little bit on how 140 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: we pay staff when they are traveling overseas, and it 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: works pretty much the same when they're traveling within Australia 142 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: as well, when they're going to visit all of our stores. 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: But I thought, just off the back of our China trip, 144 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: I would do a little episode like this. And again, 145 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: like I said at the start of the episode, this 146 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: is just how we structure how we pay our staff. 147 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: In no way is this like the stock standard that 148 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: every company would do. I don't work at other companies, 149 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: so I have no idea. But I just thought I 150 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: would do a little episode on this to talk through 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: how we pay our staff if they're ever traveling with us. 152 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: And that's all for today's bonus episode.