1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: On Scorning MS Australia. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panekee Show. Coming 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 3: up tonight, President Donald Trump calls out Australia once more 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 3: for failing to assist in the war against the Iranian regime. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: The panel will be here to cover the day's top headlines. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: The fuel crisis deepens, despite the Energy Minister assuring Australians 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: all is well. We'll get the facts with Prophecy in Plimer. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: Kosher Gator will have the latest from the US, including 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: the New York mayor implementing radical race based policies, and 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: later in the program, my second favorite Texan Alex Stein 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: will be here to discuss everything from Carnie's comeback to 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: an NBA player sanctioned for sharing his Christian beliefs and 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: Left is losing its stars. This Democrat charmer. 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: Just shut down there. You listen to me, you fat 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: I'm getting ready to tell you something does very important 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: knowledge and no one else is gonna tell you. So 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right say. By the way, get 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: your finger out of yet, quit licking it. 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: But first, Australian families are set to be sunk further 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: into debt as energy bills continue to climb, despite Labour's 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: promises that household bills would not increase. Figures from the 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: Australian Energy Regulators show Australian households are being plunged into 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: energy poverty, with a surge and the number of customers 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: in arrears on their gas and electricity bills. Those on 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: hardship programs have seen a twenty three percent jump in arrears, 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: with many owing thousands in unpaid energy bills and more 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: than six thousand customers have had their electricity supply disconnected 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: in the first quarter. Joining me now to discuss this 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: further is Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harken 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: and Sky News contributor proumc sween. Colleen, I'll start with you. 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: I've written about this issue in the Herald Sun today. 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: We have been failed by successive governments both at state 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: and federal level. They've allowed green hysteria to trump logic 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: and sound economic policies. 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: It's a disgrace really, this ideological pursuit that has led 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 5: to a scenario where people literally can't put food on 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: the table in a country that is energy rich as 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: we are is an absolute disgrace. Ordinary Australians are literally 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: hurting over this and it's not going to change anytime 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: soon because it's based on our energy policy, which is 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: all ideologically driven. If you ask IPA, research will show 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 5: you that four out of every five Australians just want 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 5: affordable and reliable energy. They're not asking for very much 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 5: and we ought to be able to provide it. But 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 5: you know, our government is living in utopian lala land. 47 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: They just don't seem to be able to connect the 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 5: dots with this and the consequences of these energy policies 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 5: pro I. 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: Seem to recall the Climate Change and Energy Minister chrisp 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: and promising us just I think it was a last 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: month that households could see savings of up to ten percent. 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 3: When are those savings coming well? 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 6: In his dreams? 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 7: I think Rita, I mean, the bulk is a scam 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 7: artist and sadly, you know, fossil fuel has been demonized 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 7: so much, but these demons are being exorcized now as 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 7: reality has hit. You know, well meaning Australians who you 59 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 7: know thought that they were doing the right thing by 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 7: the environment, have suddenly realized that not being able to 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 7: heat their food. 62 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 6: Or their homes. 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 7: You know the impact that we're finding that with these 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 7: rising energy costs that are impacting on all across the 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 7: cost of living. 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 6: And we've been sold apart. 67 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 7: This is a scam by Bowen, a scam by this government. 68 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 7: And we've had to learn a hard lesson and probably 69 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 7: we all had to go through this hard lesson for 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 7: people to understand that fossil fuel is not an enemy. 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 6: And unfortunately that's what we've been told. 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 8: Now. 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump has taken another shot at Australia 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: for the lack of help amidst the ongoing conflict with Iran. 75 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 3: Have a listened to what he said. 76 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 9: It's not just NATO. 77 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 8: You know, Welston help us. South Korea didn't help us. 78 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 8: You know, Welston help us. Or Australia didn't help us. 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 9: You know, Welston help us. 80 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 10: Japan. 81 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: Pro Given our meager defenses in this country, aren't we 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: reliant on the US? Isn't it a good idea to 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: not antagonize our biggest and most powerful ally, who we 84 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: are going to have to call on if, for example, China, 85 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: if it becomes a little bit too aggressive. 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 6: Well, we're sitting Ducks Reta. 87 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 7: And that's the thing that people who have very short 88 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 7: memories don't realize how very saved us in the last war. 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 6: And we've got Albanezi. 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 7: Who didn't have a very great history with Trump or America. 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 7: Then of course we saw what happened when he became 92 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 7: Prime minister, and it was very shaky grounds. And we 93 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 7: all know that we are in trouble here that we know. 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 7: Consecutive governments, and I don't just blame this one, have 95 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 7: been really bad when it comes to allocating any defense budget. 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 7: It's indefensible now that we need it for our national security. 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 7: But we've failed Trump in so many ways, and so 98 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 7: I don't blame him for being put out. But of 99 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 7: course he didn't really also consult his allies when he 100 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 7: started all of this, so I can understand why people fearful, 101 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 7: and particularly as he's becoming a little bit more erratic 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 7: in his policy making when it comes to Iran. 103 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not surprised at you didn't consult with us, sir. 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: He wanted the element of surprise. I think the thing 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: he would want would be someone within the Australian government 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: leaking we're being planned and if they're if the UK 107 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: isn't going to be consulted, Australia certainly isn't going to 108 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: be Isn't this just a matter of self interest here, Colleen? 109 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: We need the US far more than they'll ever need us, 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: and it is in our national interest to not antagonize 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: the leader of the free world. 112 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: Look, I mean, our defense budget is two percent of GDP. Like, seriously, 113 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 5: if we weren't understand what could we what could we do? 114 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: It would be ridiculous. 115 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: You know. What we'd be doing would be going to 116 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: the biggest weapon we have, which is the telephone for 117 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: the White House. That's going to be the most powerful 118 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: thing we'll be able to do at a time of crisis. 119 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 5: Well, and we're in this sort of crazy situation where 120 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 5: at our best we are giving mixed messages. 121 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 9: You know, is that how you treat an la who 122 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 9: we are? 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: We've been told on the one hand that we live 124 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 5: in uncertain and danger times and on the other hand 125 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 5: we're sort of dissing our allies and we're not doing 126 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 5: anything about our defense budget. We're sort of again, we're 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 5: living in this kind of crazy situation where we think. 128 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 9: No harm will ever come to us, and it's just naive. 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: And it seems like the Australian government is making its 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 3: decisions based on the hysterical media reporting about this conflict, 131 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: because I remember just a few weeks ago Anthony Alberenezi 132 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: talking about the evils of the Iranian regime, how necessary 133 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: this action was, how Iran could never have nuclear weapons, 134 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: how the people deserve to be free, and yet just 135 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: a few weeks later that seems to all be forgotten, 136 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: and and we're having large segments of the media accepting 137 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: propaganda from the Iranian regime about how this war is 138 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: going and reporting it sometimes uncritically colle. 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 5: Correct, and even sort of the general population I think 140 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 5: is sort of lost focus about what this is all about. 141 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 5: There's not that sort of strategic understanding about why these 142 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 5: things happen, and it becomes this populous TikTok kind of 143 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: movement without actually understanding what the global relationships. 144 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: Mean now One nation MP Barnaby Joyce has said that 145 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: Australia should be wary of continuing its criticism of the 146 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: US president during this conflict. Let's have a listen to 147 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: what Barnaby Joyce said to Channel seven earlier. 148 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 11: One thing I do know is I can only make 149 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 11: things worse for Australians if we participate in sort of 150 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 11: a character reference of the president. We are going to 151 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 11: rely on the United States incredibly if things get worse 152 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 11: and it sounds like they're not getting better, prove the. 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: Former Deputy PM. They're stating the bleeding obvious. But it 154 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: seems to be lost on members of the Albanesi government, 155 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: including the Prime Minister well sadly Rita. 156 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 7: Most things seem to be lost when it comes to 157 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 7: common sense on this government. 158 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 6: An Albanis as you said, you know, the. 159 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 7: First defense mechanism will be the phone to pick them 160 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 7: up and say please help. But why we would be 161 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 7: criticizing the US regime and Trump himself is ridiculous. And 162 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 7: also the world is watching, you know, China, Russia, They're 163 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 7: all watching how everyone is dealing. 164 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 6: With this crisis. 165 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 7: And we are just a fair weather friend, or we 166 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 7: couldn't even say we're a friend. At the moment, we're 167 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 7: not displaying any support. And it's only people who have 168 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 7: lived through this before in these really dangerous times to 169 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 7: understand that you really need every friend you've got when 170 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 7: you're sitting at the bottom of the globe and you 171 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 7: have no defenses at all. 172 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 6: You know, you are as I said before a sitting duck. 173 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: Now, experts have worn that Australia faces unavoidable fuel rationing 174 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: if the war in your aunt stretches beyond this week. 175 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: It follows a rise in global oil prices as US 176 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump's deadline for Iran to reopen the strait 177 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 3: of Hormu's approaches prue. We had reports yesterday suggesting that 178 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: Iran was desperate to strike a forty five day cease 179 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: fire deal. Can you see rationing happening in this country? 180 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: It seems unbelievable. But we've already got an increasing number 181 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: of petrol stations that are running out of fuel. 182 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 6: Well, I can see it, Rita. 183 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: And the sad thing is that we can't trust this government. 184 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 7: You know, we're getting mixed messages all the time. You know, 185 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 7: don't panic, go on holiday, oh but don't drive your car, 186 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 7: you know, try and stay home and work or you know, 187 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 7: I mean. 188 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 6: Who knows what's going on? Really? 189 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 7: And you couldn't trust a word that came out of 190 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 7: Bowen's mouth. They couldn't organize, you know, well anything basically 191 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 7: that I can see. They have such a poor history 192 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 7: and when they say that we will have you know, 193 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 7: fuels on the way, we've got it till May. 194 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 6: Well May's just around the corner. 195 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 7: So I cannot see any effort on their part that 196 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 7: is going to make reality hits, you know, and that 197 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 7: we really have got a crisis here. 198 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 6: They just seemed to be floating. 199 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 7: Lies and living in la la land, pretending it's all 200 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 7: going to go away. 201 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 6: Well it ain't. 202 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: Well, it's not just the half truths, the wishful thinking, Colleen, 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: it's the contradictory messages we're getting from this government. It 204 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: doesn't exactly fill you with confidence that they know what 205 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: they're doing and they have a firm plan in place 206 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: to deal with whatever comes. 207 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, well that's right. 208 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: I mean I are very slow to convene a national 209 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 5: cabinet to talk about the issues. 210 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 9: They're very slow to do that. And then we had the. 211 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 5: National Address, which was the fourth in over twenty years, 212 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: and that was to tell us to not take too 213 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 5: much fuel and to take the train if we could. 214 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: Fantastic, fantastic use of a national untract. 215 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: Right, So they didn't seem to be taking it seriously. 216 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 5: And now it's sort of being too towards this emergency 217 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 5: kind of conversation, but no one's hearing a plan. And 218 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: the real issue is that, you know, I might be 219 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 5: able to take the trainers, somebody else might be able 220 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 5: to stay at home for a day or two, but 221 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 5: the farmers are not getting their diesel and they're not 222 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 5: getting their fertilizer, and that has a long tail to 223 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 5: it in terms of what we will receive in X 224 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: amount of months when the crops can't be cut and 225 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 5: all of that kind of stuff. But there doesn't seem 226 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 5: to be a planing place. If we're going to have rationing, 227 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: be honest with us, get it moving and you know, 228 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: just be transparent with the Australian people, because that's what 229 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: we expect is leadership and honesty. 230 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 3: Well, I'll be speaking to Professor in Plimer shortly about 231 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 3: this very issue on some of this contradictory messaging that's 232 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: coming out that is not helpful in any way. But 233 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: let's move on to the world of academia, your world's Colleen. 234 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: Let's go to controversial writer at mcquarie University, academic Randa 235 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: abdelf Fhata. The Australian newspaper reports today on the taxpayer largess. 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: She has enjoyed at children's picture books, Look and a 237 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: young adult fiction novel were cited as research achievements in 238 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: her successful grant application for nearly nine hundred thousand dollars. 239 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: We're talking about taxpayer funding here, and public funds were 240 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: also used to fly two American academics to Australia to 241 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: attend a workshop about the thirty year old play The 242 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 3: Politics of Belly Dancing, at a cost of six one 243 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: hundred dollars prove this sounds like important work. The OS 244 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: also reports taxpays were built one hundred and seventy dollars 245 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: an hour to transcribe interviews with Islamic activists. Again, how 246 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: do you justify that at a time where we have 247 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: people tightening their belt, We've got real financial crisis, increasing debt, 248 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: cost of living crisis, and we seem to have just 249 00:13:53,440 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 3: this largest, this generosity for segments of academia. 250 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 7: I think it needs to be renamed to the Research 251 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 7: Wrought Counsel, because when you've got people like this woman 252 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 7: who describes herself as a social activist, why is the 253 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 7: Australian public allowing this council that has a budget of 254 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 7: one billion dollars a year to support activism, and that's 255 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 7: what she's openly doing and admitting, and this. 256 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 6: Is her quest in life. 257 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 7: She must be thinking we are all fills, which we 258 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 7: are if we continue this. Jason Claire is in charge 259 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 7: of this as the Education Minister. He should stop it immediately. 260 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 7: And when we know what's coming for Australia, we are 261 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 7: going to hit the biggest recession ever and things are 262 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 7: going to get a lot worse than they are now. 263 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 7: The last thing we need is for a billion of 264 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 7: our dollars to be spent on these activists. We need 265 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 7: to prioritize and this government needs to wake up to 266 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 7: itself and start saving money and not promoting activism and supporting. 267 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: Such rot Well, I don't think you could even blame 268 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: this particular academic pre abdul Fatart. She's requesting these grants, 269 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: but she doesn't approve them. The people who are approving them, 270 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: who are signing off, I think, are the ones we 271 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: need to be critiquing. But Colleen, this is your world academia. 272 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: You're an expert in this area. Is this an isolated 273 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: example of hard left ideology being funded by the taxpayer 274 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: or is this pretty much the norm? 275 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it's not isolated at all. Activism is in all 276 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: of our institutions, from childcare all the way through schools, universities. 277 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 5: It's a non stop embedded scenario. I mean when you 278 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 5: listen to things like the politics of Bali dancing, I 279 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: mean it must make people's blood boil who are trying 280 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: to put food on the table. You know, your first 281 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 5: story when you see this contradiction in what's happening in 282 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: our society. 283 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 9: But it is not isolated. 284 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: Children from kindergarten all the way through every day, all day, 285 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 5: there's this like a dripping tap about this activist agenda, 286 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 5: whether it's decolonizing the curriculum or whether it's you know, 287 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: you're a global citizen not an Australian one. There's about 288 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 5: three climate anxiety. There's about three touch points that are 289 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 5: constant in the school day that parents would be shocked 290 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: to find out. Actually if they set in a classroom 291 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: for a week and saw what their children were being 292 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 5: exposed to, they would be shocked. 293 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Colleen Hark and pro McSween, thank you so much 294 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: for your time tonight. 295 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 9: Thank you. 296 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: It seems the fuel crisis is only going to get 297 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: worse before it gets better. Let's bring in Professor Ian Plymer, 298 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: executive director at Hancock Prospecting in How worried are you 299 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: about oil prices and shortages leading to rationing. 300 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 10: Well, I've been worried for twenty five years because we 301 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 10: just haven't done the expiration. We've had green law fare. 302 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 10: We are using more petrol and oil and diesel than 303 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 10: we actually find, so we've been absolutely dependent upon imports. 304 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 10: These come across very very long trade routes, and Blowin 305 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 10: Freddy could see that there was eventually going to be 306 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 10: a problem and we were going to not have enough fuel. 307 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 10: So we've read what we say and governments of all 308 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 10: colors have not actually thought about the future. 309 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: Well, you're telling the truth here. You've been warning about 310 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: this for so many years, about this very thing about 311 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: becoming dependent on overseas supply, and here we are. But 312 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: let's now here from National's leader Matt Canavan, who has 313 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: called out the mixed messages coming from the Albanese and government. 314 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: If credit what Chris Bowen has said over easter is 315 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: right that fuel supplies are good for the next month 316 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: or so, why did the prime mister A rest nation 317 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to add up here. Peter that the 318 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Premister thought it is so important to do a national broadcast. 319 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: Things have only been done a handful of times in 320 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: our generation. Yet only days later his Energy Minister saying 321 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: is everything is fine, there's nothing to see here. So 322 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I just do get this distinct impression the government is 323 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: not being upfront with us about exactly what the risks are. 324 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: The national address from the PM was utterly pointless. He 325 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: said nothing of consequence, spoke to us like we were 326 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: primary school age children, with that ridiculous tone that play 327 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: school hosts reserve for their audience. What did you make 328 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: of the Energy Minister's comments and the contradictions we are 329 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: hearing one minute we need a national address, the next minute, 330 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: everything is fine, go about your business as normal. 331 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 10: Well, the Energy Minister is outstanding at sending us broke. 332 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 10: We're doubling up on renewable energy systems, which are really 333 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 10: ruinable of using energy systems which are tried and proven. 334 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 10: I know that the day don't work, and we know 335 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 10: they're very expensive and as soon as you faced with 336 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 10: a problem, is incapable of solving it. And so we're 337 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 10: getting these mixed messages and basically they're floundering around trying 338 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 10: to work out what to do, and I suspect what 339 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 10: will happen is that they'll hope that the war will 340 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 10: end and business will go back to usual. And then 341 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 10: I say, well, losen the problem, aren't we wonderful? 342 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 3: Now let's talk about Indonesia coming to our rescue. Australia's 343 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: ambassador in Jakata has been assured a major state owned 344 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: urrea manufacturer in Indonesia will help to bolster crucial fertilizer 345 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: supplies amid a global shortage caused by the war in Iran. 346 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: Rahmad Probati, the head of Indonesia's state to own fertilizer manufacturer, 347 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: told the Australian newspaper food security is a shared responsibility 348 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: because of our intertwined and interconnected value chain. It is 349 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: in Indonesia's interests for Australia to remain a strong agricultural 350 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: producer and exporter because Indonesia is also dependent on Australia 351 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: for certain commodities. Ian, can you explain the significance of 352 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: this deal? And again, how do we come to a 353 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: position where we are so dependent on other countries? Has 354 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: it always been this way or have we moved in 355 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: that direction by offshoring so many of our crucial industries. 356 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 10: We've moved in that direction over a couple of decades. 357 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 10: We do need urea right now because we're planting winter crops. 358 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 10: We also need additives for diesel engines, which we get 359 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 10: from urea. But we also need a lot of asset 360 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 10: and that acid we use to react with super phostate 361 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 10: or to produce super phostate from our phosphate rock. And 362 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 10: by having such high energy costs with smelters under such strain, 363 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 10: they are reducing production. Some of them might even close. 364 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 10: So we're in a critical situation. By exporting a lot 365 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 10: of our products, we are not actually making things ourselves. 366 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 10: We are not actually creating any products in this country. 367 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 10: We're working on a just in time basis, and as 368 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 10: soon as it's a slight hiccup, we're in real trouble. 369 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 10: Now that hiccup was very very quick. We were in 370 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 10: trouble very quickly, So we really have to take a 371 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 10: deep breath and say we have to be self sufficient. 372 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 9: We're in Ireland, We're a long way. 373 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 10: From everywhere, and we cannot rely on basic commodities such 374 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 10: as urea and ammonium nitrate to keep this country fed 375 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 10: and keep this country running, and to keep diesel engines running. 376 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 10: So we have been letting the country slip for decades. 377 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 3: I think the message there is we have to be 378 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: self sufficient, we have to energy independent, we have to 379 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: be self sufficient when it comes to these critical areas. 380 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: Professor Plymath, thank you so much for your time. Thank 381 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: you Still to come. Lefties Losing at past. The latest 382 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: from the US, including the New York may implementing radical 383 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: race based policies. Kosher gata is up next. You're watching 384 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: the Reader Paney Show, and it's time for left is 385 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: Losing It, and we're starting tonight with the seriously deranged 386 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: Democrats strategist James Carvill, who is apparently now an authority 387 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 3: on manners and decorum. This is how he speaks to 388 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: the President of the United States. 389 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 4: Just sit down and you're listen to me, you fat 390 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: all right, I'm getting ready to tell you something that's 391 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: very important, knowledge that no one else is gonna tell you. 392 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: So I gonna tell you right to you. By the way, 393 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: get your finger out of yet, quit licking it. You 394 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: don't know goddamn manners. How are you brought up. 395 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 3: Ah, Yes, here's mister congeniality. Quite clearly. Carvill is also 396 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: promising that the Democrats are going to engage in law 397 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: fare and not only go after prison in retirement, but 398 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: also his children. 399 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 12: To me, Trump, I'm gonna tell you, I fat something. 400 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 12: You're getting ready to get the living kicked out of you. 401 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 12: You don't know because they haven't really told you. Let 402 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 12: me tell you something. They're gonna They're gonna start breaking 403 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 12: the news to you kind of gently, and you're gonna 404 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 12: sit there and wonder what it feels like to be 405 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 12: pushing the mouth, by my case. Then they're gonna start 406 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 12: going after you. Then they're gonna start figuring out where 407 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 12: all the money's stolen it. Then they're going to go 408 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 12: after your stupid kids and their spousers and all other 409 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 12: you see, and they're gonna investigate out of you. 410 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: I'd believe their threats. The Democrats have already shown that 411 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 3: they are quite happy to manufacture share charges and use 412 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: activist judges to go after their political opponents. No wonder 413 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: they like the Iranian regime so much. They share plenty 414 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: in common. Now here, we have a case of life 415 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: coming at you fast. Let's hear from a leftist bragging 416 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: about fleeing America for Mexico. Everything is apparently glorious in Mexico. 417 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 13: Like, how is it that Mexicans have fallen for American 418 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 13: propaganda of Mexico because we're we're moving is amazing, it's thriving. 419 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 13: We're moving to ply at Elkarma in Mexico. It's like 420 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 13: thirty minutes from Cancun. They're acting like where we're moving 421 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 13: isn't safe or livable. We want our kids to be 422 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 13: a majority and out of minority. I want to be 423 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 13: a majority and out of minority, real food, affordable health care, 424 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 13: problical beaches, jungle, not having to fear for our safety 425 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 13: due to racism, diversity, Trump not being our president. 426 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: Now that was late last year, November. Surely the Mexico 427 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: honeymoon hasn't worn off yet. 428 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 13: Surely we were finally able to escape the United States 429 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 13: and we're having to move back already. So with that, 430 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 13: we're having to go to the States to get him 431 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 13: the proper care. We've had to spend hundreds thousands of 432 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 13: dollars out of pocket that we were not planning on. 433 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 13: So now we're going back to the United States. To 434 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 13: get ours send the care that he needs, and we're 435 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 13: having to let go of the stream of living here 436 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 13: in Mexico. 437 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 14: Are we going to get a bunch of our torture solves? Probably? 438 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably will, but we we share. 439 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 6: Well. 440 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 3: Now let's go to the UK, where the taxpayer funded 441 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 3: public broadcaster, the BBC remains a bastion of leftist ideology, 442 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: but every now and then their well funded echo chamber 443 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: receives a much needed reality check. And Douglas Murray, a 444 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: good friend of this program, was the right man to 445 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: deliver this brutal reality check on the issue of Islamism 446 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: in the UK. 447 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: Because of that threat of Islamic extremism, we should have 448 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: less Islam in this country. Was that a wise phrase? 449 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: Talking about less Islam? Rely, Less Islam means less people 450 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: of the Muslim faith. That means less Sadjadjavid's less Suddy 451 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: can'ts well, it means anyone who's a Muslim means I. 452 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 15: Mean, it would also mean less people like the Abaedy 453 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 15: family wound it. Yes, I mean, I mean yeah. 454 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: The point is you're talking about less Islam that is Muslim. 455 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 15: No, just bear with me, because I know better than 456 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 15: you what I think this country has had a wildly 457 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 15: stupid and lacks immigration policy for decades, and we allowed 458 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 15: people like the Abadi family, a family of jihadists who'd 459 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 15: fallen out with Colonel Gadaffi because they were from rival 460 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 15: jihadist groups. When their Bady family fell out with Colonel Gadaffi, 461 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 15: they came first to London and then to Manchester. And 462 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 15: one of the sons they gave this country was Salman Abady, 463 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 15: who at the age of twenty two killed twenty two 464 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 15: young girls at the Manchester Arena in a suicide bomb. 465 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 15: Won by the way, for every year of life this 466 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 15: country gave him. His brothers just stabbed and thrown boiling 467 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 15: oil at three prison prisons. 468 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: Let me be terrific. 469 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: Why would the Abady hang on? 470 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 15: Why were the Abedy family in the UK? Why is 471 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 15: nobody interested in asking that? 472 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 6: Look? 473 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 3: I knew the BBC presenter then, Nick wash was in 474 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: all sorts of trouble when Douglas said I think I 475 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: know better than you what I think and what would 476 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: hope that the BBC presenter would try a little harder 477 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: to listen to Douglas's arguments, but alas he came back 478 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: with the same old tide lines, and he got the 479 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: schooling he richly deserved. 480 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: There is a problem with fundamentalism and Islamic extremism and 481 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 2: fundamental Islam. You're saying less of everyone, which means less 482 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: Sajid David d less, Sodi cahn't and. 483 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 15: Problem but always Sergid. No, of course he's not stereotype. 484 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 15: I mean this is a kind of dated conversation to 485 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 15: my mind, because this is all being addressed elsewhere as 486 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 15: we speak. Nobody else is as incredibly slow in learning 487 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 15: as the British media and political class when it comes 488 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 15: to this problem. 489 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: You know, I most feel sorry for the guy. But 490 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 3: talking about race, obsessions and Islamism, let's go to New 491 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: York City, where mayors are in Mendani has decided that 492 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: the color of your skin will determine what resources you're 493 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: able to access. Forget about equality, his instituting equity. I 494 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: don't know what could possibly go wrong. 495 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 16: And while today's true cost of living measure confirms that 496 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 16: the affordability crisis touches every corner of our city, we 497 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 16: know that these effects are not applied evenly. So often 498 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 16: it is black and brown New Yorkers who are hit 499 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 16: the hardest. This preliminary Racial Equity Plan is the first 500 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 16: step in developing a whole of government approach to tackling 501 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 16: that reality. It is a plan that lays out these 502 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 16: first steps to solve decades of neglect and discrimination. 503 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: Genius, just genius, fighting imaginary discrimination with real discrimination. What 504 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: Ma'm Dani is instituting isn't just racism institutional racism. It's 505 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: government mandated racism and it should be illegal. Let's bring 506 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: in Sky News contributor Kosher gaita kosher equity and terms 507 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: like positive discrimination, well they're just nice sounding ways to 508 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: say racist because you are determining the access people have 509 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: to certain resources based on the color of their skin. 510 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 17: Equity reminds me of Kamala Harris. There was this thing 511 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 17: on the campaign trail where she was like, I'm not 512 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 17: talking about equality, I'm talking about equity and it sounds meant, 513 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 17: sounds rebro and smart, but like, what. 514 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 18: Does it mean? 515 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 17: Usually it's a business term stakeholder value and seeing black 516 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 17: and brown people deserve more stakeholder I don't know, it 517 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 17: doesn't make any sense. 518 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: It means communism is what it means. It makes not 519 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: equality of opportunity, but of equality of outcome right, which 520 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: you can only really have if you enforce it. 521 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 17: That's right, but they hide behind your point words like 522 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 17: don't actually make sense, and so they can sort of 523 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 17: say what they're trying to say without actually saying it. 524 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 17: I also think the black and brown scope creep is interesting. 525 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 17: I don't know when that happened, but it did along 526 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 17: the way, and just say nonwait, because that's basically what 527 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 17: they're saying. And if he had the people standing behind 528 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 17: him doesn't Includesians and like Indian Americans that are very successful, 529 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 17: so they're not this is it. 530 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: He can be certain colors where by his logic, you 531 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: should be qualifying, but you don't because you are very 532 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: economically capable. It's not very Indian Americans is a good example. 533 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: Asian Americans, which Iranian Americans. 534 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 17: All of it is, and that's when they're sneaking and 535 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 17: brown into that. And to a point about the legality 536 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 17: in so far as he does any actual enforcement of it, 537 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 17: would run a file with civil rights law and Hermie 538 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 17: Dillon is generally all over those types of things. 539 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: But she's already said she's going to be watching this 540 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: one very closely. 541 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 17: It's more I think the pandering and sort of the 542 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 17: soft discrimination that I think he will keep pushing because 543 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 17: that's what he believes it. 544 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Now, let's go to the conflict in Iran and President 545 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has made it clear to the media that 546 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: he's not interested in the critiques of opponents upset by 547 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: his rehetrick and threats against the Iranian regime. 548 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 15: Yesterday, in your Truth Social you called the Iranians crazy bastards. 549 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 16: True. 550 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 19: What is your response to critics who say that I 551 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 19: don't care about? What is your response to critics who 552 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 19: said that is your mental health that should perhaps be 553 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 19: examined as this worked. 554 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 8: I haven't heard that. But if that's the case, you're 555 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 8: going to have to have more people like me, because 556 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 8: our country is being ripped off on trade and everything 557 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 8: for many years until I came along. So if that's 558 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 8: the case, you're going to have to have more people. 559 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: And the President also pointed out that the Islamist Iranian 560 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: regime cannot be trusted. 561 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 8: Because they're very good bullshited artists. That's why for forty 562 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 8: seven years they've been bullshitting other presidents and they haven't 563 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 8: done the job. And people are living in hell. You 564 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 8: live in that country, they're living in hell. No, I 565 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 8: think that forty seven years of this stuff is long enough. 566 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 8: They're at the weakest point they've ever been. 567 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: Kosher. The President also pointed out that the Iranian regime 568 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: doesn't have an air force any longer, doesn't have a navy, 569 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: doesn't really have decent communication, and that is in fact 570 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: impeding negotiation efforts. 571 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 17: Yes, I think the first bit over there of the 572 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 17: journalist was using a tweet as proof positive of mental 573 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 17: stability that doesn't land anymore. 574 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 18: It's very twenty fifteen. 575 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 17: There is a legitimate line of questioning, which is the 576 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 17: second clip sort of touches on that around that point 577 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 17: that if you have decimated them to the point that 578 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 17: there's no one to negotiate with, then what what's her 579 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 17: off ramp? 580 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 18: What's a negotiation strategy? 581 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 17: The other piece of that tweet that the world up 582 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 17: to where he said, you know, it's gonna be bridge 583 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 17: day and land today, that could have been a line 584 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 17: of questioning that, you know, was that just rhetoric orre 585 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 17: you serious? Because that's civilian infrastructure. What are you saying here? 586 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 17: And he wouldn't have given up his strategy, but that 587 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 17: would have been a better approach than it, but. 588 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: That looking for their ex moment. They're looking for their 589 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: TikTok moment than looking for the opportunity to say to 590 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: the American President that you know, it's your mental health 591 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: that is being questioned. 592 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 6: They are. 593 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't land An, It wasn't land It's 594 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: not twenty fifteen, folks. We've moved on. Those sort of 595 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: tactics don't work any longer. President Trump mentioned there that 596 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: the Iranian people have been living in health for forty 597 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: seven years, and even now while the regime is being decimated, 598 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: it is still killing its own citizens. 599 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 19: Amir Hussein Hatami was an innocent eighteen year old who 600 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 19: was arrested in January. His crime was simply protesting against 601 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 19: is amirigime. They executed him yesterday and took his life. 602 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 19: He was denied a trial, is still cut off. We 603 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 19: still can't hear from his family. These are the war 604 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 19: crimes that you're not going to hear on the headlines 605 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 19: of the western media outlets. There are four other men 606 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 19: who are sentenced execution on the same day as here. 607 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: So much of this news is being shared on social 608 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: media by Uranian dissidents expats who are trying to get 609 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 3: this message out their kosher at a time when increasing 610 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: amounts of the US media seem to be siding with 611 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: the Iranian regime, repeating their propaganda and really characterizing this 612 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: war in the most bizarre fashion. It seems like their 613 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: hatred of Trump is blinding them to the regime they're defending. 614 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 17: So true, and we see them do that all the time, 615 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 17: where the teds is the guiding principle, and then everything 616 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 17: else will fall around that, you know, as the chips may. 617 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 17: This kind of reporting is a reminder of the regime 618 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 17: and how brutal it is. And as you say, it's 619 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 17: hard for those things to get out because there's sort 620 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 17: of just a blanket around that kind of media. But 621 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 17: we live in the world of social media and independent media, 622 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 17: so it does come out, and it just again makes 623 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 17: the media look feckless because there is again a legitimate 624 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 17: critique to tigue against Trump, but that would require them 625 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 17: to sort of side with that faction of the Trump 626 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 17: coalition that has been against US war because it's not 627 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 17: America first, as brutalism regime is, how is that our business? 628 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 17: That line of questioning the left and the media won't 629 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 17: go there. Because they don't want to ally with that 630 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 17: side of the islands. 631 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 18: They are just going to That. 632 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: Actually would be a fascinating thing for the media to 633 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: focus on about any potential rift between the President and 634 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: his Vice President jd. Vance. Even the President has admitted 635 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: it has not been as enthusiastic about what's happening in 636 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: Iran as others in the administration. That is actually something 637 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 3: very interesting to explore on Oever, now, Trump has called 638 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: out the media's relentless negative coverage of him in recent days. 639 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 3: He has made this point several times. 640 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 8: I get ninety three to ninety seven percent bad press, 641 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 8: fake press, or fake. 642 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 6: I wanted a landslide. 643 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: The point he keeps making is that there must be 644 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 3: something terribly wrong with the media and with trust in 645 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 3: the media. With someone who receives so much bad coverage, 646 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: we're talking well over ninety percent, there can win an 647 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 3: election in a landslide. 648 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 18: And they know it. Trust is down. 649 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 17: Even as Trump's pull numbers maybe take or taking a 650 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 17: little bit of a dip right now, he's still way 651 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 17: way above the trust numbers, and the media it's irredeemably 652 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 17: use their friend Hillary Clinton's famous whatever, it's irredeemable right now, 653 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 17: their status, their ratings are down, trust is down, everything 654 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 17: is down. 655 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 18: They're circling the drain. They know it. 656 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 17: But that adversarial relationship between the press and journalists and 657 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 17: Trump is one of the many things that was his 658 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 17: signature put him on the map. He coined that term 659 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 17: fake news. The media was already going down, but he really, 660 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 17: I think was the final nail in the coffin, and 661 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 17: he's going to continue that adversarial positioning. 662 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 3: Well, trust in the US media is a historic glows 663 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: and when you look at trust from Republicans and independent voters, 664 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: it is rock bottom. Democrats still have some trust in 665 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 3: the media well, because the media are mainly Democrats. 666 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 8: Now. 667 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 3: We have spoken about that commy convoy to Cuba previously 668 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 3: on this program. It featured the likes of stream A 669 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: Hassan Pika and he was on CNN talking about his experience. 670 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 20: I couldn't believe the site that I was seeing. It 671 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 20: was very sad. You had homes that looked like they 672 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 20: were bombed out. I already had known about the rolling 673 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 20: blackouts and I experienced them later in the day and 674 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 20: it was definitely unlike anything I've ever experienced. Before everything 675 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 20: is pitch black, there aren't any traffic lights on. It's crazy, right, 676 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 20: But I was taken aback. I was very sad by 677 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 20: all the poverty that I saw, and then I was 678 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 20: very angry. 679 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 3: Kosher, of course, he was not angry at all with 680 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: the communist regime there that they've destroyed that island nation. 681 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: He's not angry with the failed doctrine of communism. And 682 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: I've got to ask why is sin and having a 683 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 3: guy on who said America deserve nine eleven or his 684 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: exact words. I'm not taking him out of context. And 685 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: not only did Sina not ask him about that, it 686 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 3: didn't ask him about all the other crazy comments he's 687 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: made like this. 688 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 14: Well, my understanding is that the property owners who have 689 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 14: properties there choose just not to rent it at all. 690 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 20: Yeah, chill them, murder those in the street, let the streets, 691 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 20: let the streets sook in their red capitalist bloods. 692 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 3: Dude, if a figure on the right Kosher had said 693 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 3: anything remotely close to that, that had to be disavowed 694 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 3: by everyone. But Hassan Pika is a hobnobbing with Democrats 695 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 3: and is invited on CNN as a serious guest. 696 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 17: Because he's part of the club, and it really is 697 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 17: a lesson and that circular firing squad that the ratars'll 698 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 17: be the first, or right will be the first to 699 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 17: chastise somebody on their side of the aisle who say 700 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 17: even remotely what he does. The left just doesn't do 701 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 17: that because he's part of the club. I think maybe 702 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 17: there's a business reason too. He does have lots and 703 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 17: lots of viewers, and CNN is hemorrhaging viewers, as we discuss, 704 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 17: so they think, oh, let's, you know, get some of 705 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 17: this independent media talent on our airwaves. Maybe that's sort 706 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 17: of a cynical business aspect to it. But he, you know, 707 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 17: I'll give him credit for doing on location reporting by 708 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 17: going to Cuba, but he won't take that next step. 709 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 18: Why is it like that? Why are there blackouts and 710 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 18: he won't go there? 711 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 3: How is he railing against capitualism like we just heard, 712 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: when the man's a multimillionaire, he lives in a multimillion 713 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: dollar property. I mean, how do you say, you know, 714 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 3: basically kill capitalist when you're a very good example of one. 715 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 17: From his lips to Billie Eilish's ears when she was 716 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 17: about the stolen land, they don't make that connection, or 717 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 17: they do, but they don't. 718 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 18: Want to reveal it. 719 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 17: And you know that's sort of the act and the 720 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 17: game that they play. 721 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: Now, we've covered the news of the US reporting at 722 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 3: bumper jobs report, well above market expectations, and that comes 723 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 3: kosher at a time when the Trump administration is slashing 724 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 3: taxpayer roles. The number of federal employees is decreasing at 725 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 3: a rapid rate while employment in the private sector is increasing. 726 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: It's a good situation for the taxpayer, very different to 727 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: what we see here in Australia, where just about every 728 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 3: new job is either directly or indirectly funded by taxpayers. 729 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 17: Absolutely, I've seen banking, mining and real estate and government. 730 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 17: That's basically the economy here. And it didn't have to 731 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 17: be in this way. 732 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 18: That's a self inflicted. 733 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 17: Wound over many years in Australia many parts of the country, 734 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 17: and in America certainly under the last administration and even. 735 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 18: Before and Trump. 736 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 17: His whole platform when it was trade and tariffs and 737 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 17: then immigration, both those things together was about jobs and 738 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 17: the American worker being a key constituent more than the consumer. 739 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 17: Even even a pricess go up. For example, with tariffs, 740 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 17: the worker and the jobs is important more than being 741 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 17: thisbastian to welcome the world. That has been a signature issue. 742 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 17: If those numbers continue, that will be helpful to him 743 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 17: because he is suffering right now and the Paul's on 744 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 17: economics and infletion and all of that. 745 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 18: So this was definitely a bright spot. 746 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 3: Kosha Gator, thank you for the time. Pleasure still to come. 747 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 3: The latest in entertainment news from Carnier's comeback to an 748 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: NBA player sanctioned for sharing his Christian beliefs, Alex Stein 749 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 3: is up next Welcome Back. 750 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 4: Now. 751 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: The Chicago Bulls are being accused of hypocrisy, cowardice, and stupidity. 752 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: It's an unhappy trifecta. Basketball fans are I rate with 753 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 3: the club because the club has waived guard Jaden Ivy 754 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: for what they say is conduct detrimental to the team. 755 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 3: Apparently about Christian speaking out about the NBA's embrace of 756 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 3: Pride Month is detrimental, but being a lefty activist is 757 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 3: perfectly fine. Players pushing racial politics and anti ice messaging 758 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 3: have had no penalties imposed. Here is Jade and Ivy 759 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 3: saying no one is going to stop him from talking in. 760 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 21: Terms of like LGBTQ, right, I don't. I'm not against 761 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 21: the man or the woman. I'm against what is contrary 762 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 21: to the word of God. Man is not supposed to 763 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 21: lie with a man, and a woman is not supposed 764 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 21: to lie with a woman. So for me as a Christian, 765 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 21: as a born again Christian who believes in Jesus Christ, right, 766 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 21: I can proclaim the truth what the Word of God says, 767 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 21: and I can do that with freedom. I have a 768 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 21: mouth to speak. No one can. 769 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: Start me joining me now is the host of After 770 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 3: Hours with Alex Stein on Real America's Voice. Alex, what's 771 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 3: your take on all of this. I know you're a 772 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 3: sports fan, and whether you agree with him or not, 773 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 3: shouldn't he have the right to say that without having 774 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: his livelihood threatened? 775 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 14: Well, of course, he deserves to have the ability to 776 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 14: speak freely. That's why we have the First Amendment. But 777 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 14: we learned during the pandemic that these corporations don't have 778 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 14: to follow the constitution. 779 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 10: So I think that's. 780 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 14: Where the rubber meets the road, is the fact that 781 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 14: the NBA can control the way these people speak. And 782 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 14: what's really crazy about it is that if you think 783 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 14: about what is pride Night represent it represents people's sexual preference. 784 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 14: That's the only difference between a gay person and a 785 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 14: straight person is who they're sexually attracted to. So why 786 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 14: does the NBA a league that is dedicated and focused 787 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 14: on you know, children, Basically those are their biggest fans, 788 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 14: celebrating who people like to have sex with. So it's 789 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 14: ridiculous that he is getting canceled for this because it's 790 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 14: just an unnecessary thing to celebrate. 791 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 3: In my opinion, well, I think we would all like 792 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: to see sporting leagues step away from politics and just 793 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: focus on what they're good at and stop having so 794 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 3: many fans angry with them as it's just every week 795 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 3: we seem to hear from sports fans or upset with 796 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 3: the NFL, the NBA, whatever the league is that has 797 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 3: taken some contentious political position. Now let's go to the UK. 798 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 3: British Prime Minister Kiss Starmer has slammed organizers at the 799 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 3: Wireless Festival after they booked Carnea West. Starma told The 800 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 3: Sun newspaper it is deeply concerning the Carnee West has 801 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 3: been booked to perform at Wireless despite his previous anti 802 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 3: Semitic remarks and celebration of Nazis. Nazism, anti Semitism in 803 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 3: any form is abhorrent and must be confronted firmly wherever 804 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 3: it appears, everyone has a responsibility to ensure Britain is 805 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 3: a place where Jewish people f alex. Do you agree 806 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 3: with Starmer's comments there? Certainly, Kanye West has made quite 807 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: a comeback. You had those sold out concerts in Mexico, 808 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: and he's just had two sold out shows in California 809 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 3: and people have been absolutely raving about those programs. 810 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 14: Listen, Kanye West is definitely on the record saying some 811 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 14: very heinous things, but at the same exact time, he 812 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 14: has apologized for what he said. So, in my opinion, 813 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 14: America is a country about giving people second chances. I 814 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 14: know kier Stromer's not in America, and obviously he's British 815 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 14: or maybe he doesn't have that same sort of mentality, 816 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 14: But when it comes to Kanye West, the guy apologized. 817 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 14: I believe in second chances. I think he learned from 818 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 14: his mistakes. And you know, a lot of other artists 819 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 14: say some even more discussing things, if you can believe that, 820 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 14: about killing people and degenerate sex. So sometimes these artists 821 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 14: choose to say offensive things to push people's buttons, and 822 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 14: I think that's what kind of he was doing. He 823 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 14: was trying to push buttons because really, at the end 824 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 14: of the day, I don't think he's as antisemitic as 825 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 14: the media labels him. And like I said, he did apologize. 826 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 14: What more can we ask for him? 827 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 10: Now? 828 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 3: I want to play a beautiful Jada Pinkett Smith for you. 829 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 3: Actress Jada Pinkett Smith's talking about her clearly dysfunctional relationship 830 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 3: with fellow actor Will Smith. The clip was uploaded by 831 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 3: fifty cent with the caption God damn father, God, thank 832 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 3: you for not letting me get into a relationship like this. 833 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 3: Happy Easter, God bless Let us have a look at 834 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 3: the clip. 835 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 18: It is not his responsibility to. 836 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 6: Make you happy. 837 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 18: He can't. 838 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 10: It's impossible. 839 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 21: But it took me forever, hard headed, stubborn, you know, 840 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 21: because that romantic idea. 841 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 6: And that's why I talk about checking the boxes. 842 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 3: It's like I did everything I was supposed to do. 843 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 3: You get to have your dream, how come I'm not 844 00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 3: having mine? 845 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 18: And that's because Will was doing what he wanted to do. 846 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 6: He was making himself happy. 847 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 9: Alex. 848 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: I'm interested in your take on the Will Smith Jada 849 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 3: Pinkett Smith relationship. We've seen it blow up previously, some 850 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 3: bizarre antics between the two. Basically, Will Smith's sitting there 851 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 3: whilst his wife detailed affair she had with her son's friend, 852 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 3: remember that, and Will Smith is having to sit there 853 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 3: and listen to the details of this. And of course 854 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 3: there was that incident at the Oscars with Will Smith 855 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 3: punching who did he punch Chris Rock who was hosting 856 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 3: the Oscars. So this relationship seems a little bit toxic 857 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 3: to me. I'm interested in your take. 858 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 14: I mean, I think bizarre is an understandmer when it 859 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 14: comes to the description of Will Smith and Jada Pinkett 860 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 14: Smith's relationship. And to me, it seems like Jada Pinkett 861 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 14: Smith is doing her best Michelle Obama impression because she 862 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 14: had a very public affair with one of her children's 863 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 14: friends where she humiliated Will on her podcast. They got 864 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,919 Speaker 14: billions of yous, probably not even millions, So I think 865 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 14: she's been able to have her cake and eat it too, 866 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 14: and for her to sit there and you know, act 867 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 14: like she's a victim when in reality, Will Smith was 868 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 14: one of the hottest actors in all of Hollywood and 869 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 14: Jada Pinkett Smith did not have the same cachet that 870 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,919 Speaker 14: her husband did, and that shouldn't be a punishment on him. 871 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 14: And really and truly, she's unhappy because she's probably in 872 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 14: a loveless marriage where she knows that in order to 873 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 14: get any sort of gratification she has to go find 874 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 14: it from her child's friends. So, I mean, it's obviously 875 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 14: toxic and bizarre. And that's just the reality of these 876 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 14: Hollywood relationships. You know, they have this veneer that they're 877 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 14: all good, when in reality they're incredibly toxic. 878 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 3: Well, that relationship and the public airing of Dirty Laundry 879 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 3: has so damaged Will Smith's image. I mean, you were right. 880 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 3: He was I think the highest paid actor at one point, 881 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 3: universally loved, and now after that whole furl the Oscars, 882 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 3: he is just such a figure of mockery. Really. Now, 883 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Savannah Guthrie. We've been 884 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 3: speaking about her because her mother was kidnapped, but Savannah 885 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 3: is now back on air. 886 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 9: Welcome to you today on this Monday morning. 887 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 5: We are so glad you started your week with us, 888 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 5: and it is good to be home. 889 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 6: Yes, it is good to have you back at home. Well, 890 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 6: here we go, ready or not, Let's do the news. 891 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 4: Yes, so good to have you back. 892 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 3: It's an incredible effort to be fronting up with this 893 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 3: still hanging over your head. Alex. It's I don't even 894 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 3: know how she did it, you know. 895 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 14: I think she's really brave. And I'm happy that Hoda 896 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 14: wasn't able to steal her job at the Today's Show, 897 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 14: because you know, Hoda already had her run. So I'm 898 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 14: happy that Savannah got to keep her job after this 899 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 14: horrible tragedy, considering there was you know a lot of 900 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 14: talk speculation that she wasn't going to have that position anymore. 901 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 14: So good for her, and I'm happy that she's starting to, 902 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 14: I guess, come to terms with the horrible tragedy of 903 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 14: losing her mom and one of the worst ways possible. 904 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 3: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time tonight, 905 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 3: and that's all the time we have. Don't go anywhere. 906 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: Newsnight is up next