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Speaker 1: Apodjey Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashi and I'm Tiana.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is about female empowerment.

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Speaker 3: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most

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Speaker 3: authentic version of yourself.

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Speaker 2: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone

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Speaker 2: else is too afraid to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Get ready for your next level of self.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to she Rises. I am very

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Speaker 1: excited about today's episode.

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Speaker 4: Aren't we ready?

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Speaker 2: Because it is all about skin. We actually have a

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Speaker 2: skin expert on today to talk and debunk a lot

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Speaker 2: of myths and stuff and just ask all the juicy

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Speaker 2: questions on how to get the most perfect, glowing glass skin.

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Speaker 1: That we all want. So welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Renee, thanks for being here, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: We're so excited to have you. So before we get

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Speaker 2: into all the juicy questions about how to have beautiful

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Speaker 2: glowy skin, could you give us a little bit of

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Speaker 2: background about who you are, where your skin clinic is,

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Speaker 2: and why you got into helping women with their skin beautiful.

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Speaker 5: So, I'm Renee. My clinic is located in Concord on

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Speaker 5: Major's Bay Road. I have been a skin expert. I

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Speaker 5: graduated in two thousand and two, so that makes me

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Speaker 5: feel really old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, that's amazing.

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Speaker 4: She really is an expert.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, a long time now.

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Speaker 5: But coming out of college, I had the opportunity to

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Speaker 5: work in a really amazing clinic who taught me everything

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Speaker 5: I needed to know about skin. And once I started

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Speaker 5: to see the skin transformation in clients and the confidence

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Speaker 5: that I actually could give someone and change their life

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Speaker 5: by fixing their skin, that just drove my passion and

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Speaker 5: my determination to really dig a lot deeper into skin.

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Speaker 5: And it's found me here five years into having my

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Speaker 5: own business, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. And when you said change it

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Speaker 2: was lives. It sounds dramatic, but as someone who suffered

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Speaker 2: with acne, it destroyed my confidence. It prevented me from

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Speaker 2: showing up. I felt ugly over I was. I didn't

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Speaker 2: take opportunities like it really did impact my life in

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Speaker 2: such a negative way. So I can really see how

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Speaker 2: rewarding your job must be to help people with their

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Speaker 2: skin issues to actually be able to let their personality shine.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely it's what gets me up every morning. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: We love that passion in that drive. I also experienced

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Speaker 3: something similar as well. I end up going on rohacitating twice,

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Speaker 3: which I would not recommend to anyone, But it was

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Speaker 3: before there was the right information around that, just because

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Speaker 3: my skin was so bad when I was young and

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Speaker 3: just didn't know the right information or where to go,

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Speaker 3: where to turn to. But it definitely does impact you,

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Speaker 3: and it's one of those things that you don't realize

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Speaker 3: how much it impacts you until you either go through

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Speaker 3: it or like yourself, see the transformation of how people

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Speaker 1: So true, I would love to know, just to start

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Speaker 1: off with a bit of fun, what's the craziest skin

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Speaker 1: advice or statement that someone said to you coming into

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Speaker 5: Ah, the craziest thing that they've done. I would think

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Speaker 5: it's the toothpaste.

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Speaker 1: You know that when I was younger, Oh, what what

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Speaker 1: do you do that way on your skin?

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Speaker 2: If you get a pinple, put toothpaste on it to

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Speaker 2: dry it out. I used to that, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: About never never do that. Go to sensitize and irritate

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Speaker 5: your skin and probably make the pimple worse.

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Speaker 1: Wow, there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's so funny you said that because I literally did

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Speaker 4: That's so funny. The things that we do right when

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Speaker 2: I would love to know your thoughts on beef tallow

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Speaker 2: as a moisturizer.

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Speaker 5: I don't have thoughts on it because it's just a no.

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Speaker 5: Like it's all a trend. So look, it's not scientifically proven,

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Speaker 5: it's not created by a skin specialist or a skin expert,

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Speaker 5: and it's just like putting you know, lemon juice in.

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Speaker 5: It's all a trend and a fad. So for me,

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Speaker 5: beef tallow or anything else that is trending, I think

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Speaker 5: dermatologists that hype on about beef tallow.

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Speaker 1: It's a big fat no for me. Yeah, I've heard

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Speaker 2: That's what I've had a lot of skin experts say,

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Speaker 2: is like it might feel glowy or hydrated, but it

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Speaker 2: It's just an inclusive so it will feel good topically,

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Speaker 2: but it cannot penetrate through the skin, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think it will actually make change to the cells. When

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Speaker 2: need to actually use products.

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Speaker 1: And ingredients that are going to hit the cells.

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Speaker 5: Beef tallow will not get to that point in the

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Speaker 5: make long term change.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, not me, not me having put it on

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Speaker 3: this morning feeling called out. Yes, yes, I use it

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Speaker 3: for cerisis and I feel like that helps. But then

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Rene has some products you can recommend to us.

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Speaker 1: At the end, I am all that's a question we've got.

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Speaker 2: What would you say in your clinic is the biggest

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Speaker 5: Moment, definitely acneum breakouts. That is such a big, big

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Speaker 5: skin condition. Through our early twenties, we're still in a

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Speaker 5: Then we go through another influx come late thirties, so

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Speaker 5: women start to go through what's called adult acne, and

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Speaker 5: at about thirty eight. So I think it's starting to

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Speaker 5: concern for women between the twenty plus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, scarring is a big thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so interesting as well.

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Speaker 3: What do you feel like when you see all these

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Speaker 3: through the emotional challenges and struggles from things like acne

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Speaker 4: Through with like this scarring and things like that.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is the most common like mindsets

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Speaker 2: Is that related to the skin problem? Yeah, behind it absolutely.

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Speaker 5: So it's so frustrating for women, especially when you grow

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Speaker 5: to break out and you don't understand why. I think

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Speaker 1: To go back to the root.

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Speaker 5: So we always when we do a skin consultation, it's

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Speaker 5: not just oh, you have a breakout, how are we

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Speaker 5: and find out when was your last bloods? Have you

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Speaker 5: checked your hormone levels, what's your sleep like, what are

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Speaker 5: your stress levels like?

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Speaker 1: What's your job? You know? Are you getting enough sleep?

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Speaker 1: What's your diet like?

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Speaker 5: So all of these factors, especially as we get busier

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Speaker 5: and it really affects their confidence. You'll find that they'll

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Speaker 5: wear heavier makeup. Especially nowadays working and we're doing a

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Speaker 5: lot of zoom meetings. I have clients always using filters

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Speaker 5: or wearing heavy, heavy makeup to cover because they don't

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Speaker 5: It's a self esteem It just drags you down, and

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Speaker 5: I think it affects teams, But as you get into

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Speaker 5: a little bit more because you feel like you should

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Speaker 3: Ye, there's like self judgment around that of like, well,

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Speaker 3: why have when't I figured this out yet? Why kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do feel like that.

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Speaker 2: I had acting in my teen years and then I

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Speaker 2: went on a pil which helped clear it up. And

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Speaker 2: then at like twenty two or something, I went off

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Speaker 2: I felt so much more embarrassed, and I was also

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Speaker 2: my skin was obviously reacting to being on the pill

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Speaker 2: for so many years. What's your opinions on that women

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Speaker 2: going on the pill and that affecting their skin. Is

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Speaker 2: that a conversation that you have in the clinic.

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Speaker 5: Quite often, I do talk to a lot of women

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Speaker 5: about the pill, And for me, I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 5: of whack and that's you know, their recommendation, or if

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Speaker 5: you're on it for intimacy issues, I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: tell you to come off the pill. Yeah, but if

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Speaker 5: you're on it purely for skin, I always advise clients

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Speaker 5: come off it and if we can really not fix it,

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Speaker 5: then go see a natural path and go down the

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Speaker 5: healthy way, because the pill is just masking everything that's underlining.

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Speaker 5: The pill is just tricking your body to be pregnant

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Speaker 5: and it's not actually fixing the skin. And we have

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Speaker 5: so many clients that once they come off the pill,

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Speaker 5: just like you, it flares up and it comes back

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Speaker 5: even sometimes worse because you don't really know what your

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Speaker 5: skin was like before the pill.

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Speaker 4: So true, So interesting, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's maybe why your skin then reacted

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Speaker 3: once you came off, because it was having that effect.

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Speaker 2: Definitely. It was a horrible experience to go through. And

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Speaker 2: I think when your skin gets really bad too. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you experienced this with your clients too,

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Speaker 2: but I was just like, the more I clean my skin,

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Speaker 2: the better, Like I have to scrub it off, so

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Speaker 2: I'd go crazy with scrub like Apricott scrubs and gloves cleanses,

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Speaker 2: which is obviously destroying my skin barrier. Could you talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit more about maybe some of the mistakes

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Speaker 2: skin worse.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, you just said its skin saint ives scrub, I

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Speaker 5: guess I use that one.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, So that's a big fat no.

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Speaker 5: So I think what clients do, and especially with acne,

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Speaker 5: even pigmentation, because having pigmentation, your skin looks dirty.

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Speaker 1: So all you want to do is get a.

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Speaker 5: Scrub and just scrub it away or use the AHA,

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Speaker 5: thinking that it's going to be able to clean it topically.

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Speaker 5: But what you're actually doing is you're just stripping your

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Speaker 5: But for me, I think what's been a big game

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Speaker 5: I think it's a great treatment. It treats everything all round.

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Speaker 5: inflammation first. So we do a lot of calming facials.

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Speaker 5: We do some enzymes by DMK which loved their face.

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Speaker 5: The hope and minerals for Yeah, that range itself and

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Speaker 1: Alcalin treatment. I love that. It's all the hair of

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00:20:20,001 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: your face too, defuzz the head. So yeah, that's where

439
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: I kind of start.

440
00:20:26,001 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 5: So enzymes are great to repair because they work on

441
00:20:28,441 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 5: your lymphatic system and calm the skin. And then once

442
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 5: we've cleared the acne, then we go into treat and

443
00:20:34,441 --> 00:20:37,201
Speaker 5: that's when you bring out your lasers and your skin

444
00:20:37,281 --> 00:20:39,681
Speaker 5: needlings and things like that, and then we go into

445
00:20:39,761 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 5: maintenance after that.

446
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 4: Beautiful.

447
00:20:42,321 --> 00:20:45,201
Speaker 3: I have a question you I would love to know,

448
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 3: like for someone who, let's say, who's struggling with like

449
00:20:48,001 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: dark circles under their eyes, or they're struggling with bags,

450
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: they're looking super tired and they wanted to like freshen up.

451
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 4: What kind of treatment would you recommend for something like that?

452
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,561
Speaker 1: The summon sperm. I feel like everyone's raving about the

453
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,801
Speaker 1: underad I'm curious about.

454
00:20:58,801 --> 00:21:00,041
Speaker 4: I've seen it looks interesting.

455
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,561
Speaker 1: It looks interesting. I've never had it done.

456
00:21:03,801 --> 00:21:06,001
Speaker 5: I can't really comment on that because I just don't

457
00:21:06,001 --> 00:21:10,281
Speaker 5: know how well salmon sperm actually works inside our skin.

458
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,041
Speaker 5: But I mean the results sometimes speak for themselves. So

459
00:21:13,441 --> 00:21:16,401
Speaker 5: if it works for you, amazing totally. What we do

460
00:21:16,721 --> 00:21:17,241
Speaker 5: is we do.

461
00:21:17,241 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: Biomicro needling around the eyes. Have you ever heard of that?

462
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:26,121
Speaker 4: I'm let me write this down, actually tell us so.

463
00:21:26,481 --> 00:21:30,321
Speaker 5: Biomicro needling small little spicules which are found from bone

464
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,721
Speaker 5: jealous sea sponge, So it's very similar to skin needling,

465
00:21:34,281 --> 00:21:38,441
Speaker 5: but you massage these fine little spicules around the eye

466
00:21:38,441 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 5: area and it's the most comfortable treatment. But what it

467
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,961
Speaker 5: does is creating very small micro channels in the skin,

468
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,281
Speaker 5: and that's infusing hydrating ingredients, brightening ingredients. It's a very

469
00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:52,721
Speaker 5: luxy treatment and then the results are amazing.

470
00:21:52,801 --> 00:21:54,681
Speaker 1: It's going to help with your.

471
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,281
Speaker 5: Dark circles, hydration, fine lines. So you can have that

472
00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,521
Speaker 5: done every two weeks.

473
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

474
00:22:00,801 --> 00:22:04,601
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing. But if you've wanted to really target

475
00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:09,561
Speaker 5: fire lines, wrinkles, skin laxity, I would recommend tixel. So

476
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,161
Speaker 5: we also have another treatment. It's a medical device. Never

477
00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:13,841
Speaker 5: heard of tixel?

478
00:22:13,961 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: No, Okay, So much.

479
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,001
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it, We're coming.

480
00:22:19,921 --> 00:22:22,921
Speaker 1: This is not on the Gold Coast, no ah, really Yeah.

481
00:22:23,001 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 5: Tixil is a medical device, so it uses pure fomal

482
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,721
Speaker 5: heat so it's not a laser. And we can take

483
00:22:29,801 --> 00:22:32,721
Speaker 5: tixel right up to the lash line and ride.

484
00:22:32,521 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: Up over the lids.

485
00:22:33,961 --> 00:22:37,041
Speaker 5: And what it does is it infuses heat into the

486
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,241
Speaker 5: skin and then it contracts your collagen and elastin fibers,

487
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,721
Speaker 5: so you get a tightening effect. It works on your

488
00:22:43,761 --> 00:22:47,761
Speaker 5: own natural hyaluronic so it's going to increase hydration. It

489
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 5: works a lot better for fine lines and wrinkles and

490
00:22:51,001 --> 00:22:55,561
Speaker 5: also droopy eyes, so that would be another recommendation. I

491
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,321
Speaker 5: actually love to do them in combination, so I'll do

492
00:22:58,441 --> 00:23:02,241
Speaker 5: a biomicro needling one week, tixel your next and then.

493
00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,801
Speaker 1: We kind of combine it like that. That's really cool.

494
00:23:05,201 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 4: Can we book in?

495
00:23:11,321 --> 00:23:13,721
Speaker 1: I would love to know. I love products. I love

496
00:23:13,801 --> 00:23:14,521
Speaker 1: trialing products.

497
00:23:14,521 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: I always have my staple DMK and a couple of

498
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,801
Speaker 2: from SME as well.

499
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of Koream skincare products.

500
00:23:19,961 --> 00:23:23,001
Speaker 2: There's a lot of brands out there, if anyone's listening there, Like,

501
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,521
Speaker 2: I just am so confused. There's so much noise on

502
00:23:25,561 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: social media. I'm being influenced left, right, and center. What

503
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,681
Speaker 2: is like one product that you think we'd all benefit from.

504
00:23:31,681 --> 00:23:33,521
Speaker 2: What's the brand? Do you sell it? Where do we

505
00:23:33,561 --> 00:23:35,761
Speaker 2: get it from? Like one product that you like every

506
00:23:35,761 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: girl needs this in their life?

507
00:23:37,321 --> 00:23:43,961
Speaker 1: Oh my question. There's not just one product.

508
00:23:43,961 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 5: I mean everyone needs an SPF, so like that's just

509
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,521
Speaker 5: a non negotiable for me. But you've just got to

510
00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 5: make sure you're using a good SPF. I think for me,

511
00:23:53,201 --> 00:23:57,281
Speaker 5: every skin condition stems from inflammation, so I would be

512
00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,481
Speaker 5: working on Can I give you two Yeah? Absolutely, Okay,

513
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,801
Speaker 5: I would say be to gel from DMK.

514
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: Love it.

515
00:24:03,521 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 5: I would put that into everybody skin care because that

516
00:24:06,721 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: is going to help to increase those immune cells and

517
00:24:09,801 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 5: really just get that skin nice and healthy. But then

518
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 5: I also love Epicutis. Have you heard of Epicutis? No

519
00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 5: with cerisis you need Epicutis cool. Epicutis works on inflammation.

520
00:24:22,721 --> 00:24:25,921
Speaker 5: There's only a few products in the range, but their

521
00:24:25,961 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 5: lipid serum is the most powerful anti inflammatory product that

522
00:24:31,801 --> 00:24:34,961
Speaker 5: I have pretty much on my shelf. It works on

523
00:24:35,241 --> 00:24:39,241
Speaker 5: calming the skin but also hydration, so it has the

524
00:24:39,321 --> 00:24:43,801
Speaker 5: highest form of hyaluronic acid. That's not injectable, that's in

525
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,321
Speaker 5: a serum that when you put on it's like a

526
00:24:46,321 --> 00:24:48,761
Speaker 5: big drink of water for the skin, but it will

527
00:24:48,801 --> 00:24:52,521
Speaker 5: calm all inflammation. So I think for me, either one

528
00:24:52,521 --> 00:24:53,121
Speaker 5: of those two.

529
00:24:53,681 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: Wow, that's so good. I'm like, I'm going to need

530
00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: to write this down.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are epicutus epicutis.

532
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,001
Speaker 2: But someone who doesn't suffer from ceriasis, would you still

533
00:25:02,041 --> 00:25:04,041
Speaker 2: recommend that second? Because I already used Beta Joe and

534
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it.

535
00:25:05,441 --> 00:25:08,281
Speaker 5: I would do lipid therum anyway because of the hydration

536
00:25:08,441 --> 00:25:11,761
Speaker 5: factors in it, Like it's just it's like liquid in

537
00:25:11,801 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: a bottle. But then they also call it neurofin in

538
00:25:15,481 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: a bottle because it takes down inflammation.

539
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,281
Speaker 1: So yeah, And.

540
00:25:19,241 --> 00:25:21,761
Speaker 2: Anyone who's not in Sydney, just okay, us do you

541
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,801
Speaker 2: sell this on the website.

542
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: We can just put it in my shop. I post

543
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: that out to you. So yeah.

544
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 5: But also if anyone's not in Sydney and they go

545
00:25:30,761 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 5: onto my shop and are so confused, I do offer

546
00:25:33,481 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 5: a complementary discovery calls that you can hop on a

547
00:25:36,241 --> 00:25:39,441
Speaker 5: front with me. We can do like a little consultation.

548
00:25:39,921 --> 00:25:41,761
Speaker 5: We can do it via zooms if you need me

549
00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 5: to see your skin, and I'm more than happy to

550
00:25:43,961 --> 00:25:46,881
Speaker 5: help you with prescription, no strings attached. I just want

551
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: what's best for you and to make sure you're using

552
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,761
Speaker 5: the right thing for you, because I hear the noise

553
00:25:51,801 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 5: out there, and that's why I kind of block my

554
00:25:54,001 --> 00:25:56,281
Speaker 5: ears to it, and when I bring in a new

555
00:25:56,281 --> 00:25:59,561
Speaker 5: skincare line into the clinic, I really do my research

556
00:25:59,761 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 5: and really understand who it's going to help, why do

557
00:26:03,761 --> 00:26:06,201
Speaker 5: I need it in the business, and what gap it's

558
00:26:06,201 --> 00:26:09,561
Speaker 5: going to feel for me, because it's just so overwhelming

559
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,761
Speaker 5: for consumers, and I really feel for everyone who doesn't

560
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: understand it. And if I can give any advice is

561
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,761
Speaker 5: seek advice before going to buy things, because the long

562
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,481
Speaker 5: term effects you can have on your skin using the

563
00:26:21,521 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: wrong products is deprimentory.

564
00:26:23,961 --> 00:26:25,801
Speaker 1: Really. I think, Yeah, that's.

565
00:26:25,681 --> 00:26:27,721
Speaker 3: So interesting too, because it's not a one size fits

566
00:26:27,721 --> 00:26:29,921
Speaker 3: all when it comes to skin, and it's so unique

567
00:26:29,921 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: to every single person. So the fact that you're for

568
00:26:31,761 --> 00:26:33,441
Speaker 3: that is so incredible.

569
00:26:33,041 --> 00:26:34,161
Speaker 1: Absolutely beautiful.

570
00:26:34,201 --> 00:26:35,761
Speaker 2: Definitely, I'd love to move on to a little bit

571
00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: of the business side of things. I know you're a

572
00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:41,561
Speaker 2: sassy businesswoman who's built an incredible brand and your husband

573
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,081
Speaker 2: is a stay at home dat is that correct?

574
00:26:43,281 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: That's correct? Yeah, could you.

575
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,201
Speaker 2: Walk us through your business journey because we have a

576
00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:48,641
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of females that listen, a lot

577
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,321
Speaker 2: of entrepreneurs and women are trying to make it in

578
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,441
Speaker 2: business and busy mums trying to juggle or also I'd

579
00:26:53,441 --> 00:26:55,681
Speaker 2: love to hear your journey and any advice you have anything.

580
00:26:55,921 --> 00:26:59,041
Speaker 5: Yes, I'd love to share my journey. So I was

581
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 5: in the industry two thousand and two and then I

582
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: pretty much became manager and man clinics up until I

583
00:27:06,281 --> 00:27:09,281
Speaker 5: had my first baby, and so she's now fourteen.

584
00:27:09,721 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: And then I went back part time.

585
00:27:11,201 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 5: I was working from home as well, so I was

586
00:27:13,481 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 5: juggling her part time work work from home. My husband

587
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,481
Speaker 5: had his own business as well on the side, so

588
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,161
Speaker 5: it was pretty full on. And then eighteen months later

589
00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:25,921
Speaker 5: I had baby number two. A couple of weeks later

590
00:27:26,001 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 5: went back to work. I loved what I did. I

591
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,441
Speaker 5: didn't want to miss out. So I was working from

592
00:27:30,441 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: home in my garage and working in the city a

593
00:27:33,281 --> 00:27:35,201
Speaker 5: couple of days a week just to keep my foot

594
00:27:35,241 --> 00:27:38,281
Speaker 5: in the door. And then I had another two babies

595
00:27:38,321 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 5: after that.

596
00:27:39,001 --> 00:27:41,281
Speaker 1: Wow, four kids, four kids.

597
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,881
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she'm a busy mama.

598
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,641
Speaker 5: I am a busy mama, but they're such a blessing.

599
00:27:46,801 --> 00:27:49,321
Speaker 5: I love them to death. So I've been in the

600
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,881
Speaker 5: business now for five years. So when I first took

601
00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:55,961
Speaker 5: over the business, my husband was still working. We literally

602
00:27:56,041 --> 00:27:59,521
Speaker 5: bought our cell on three months before the second lockdown.

603
00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 5: Oh wow, so it's tough.

604
00:28:03,921 --> 00:28:04,721
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was tough.

605
00:28:05,241 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: And then through COVID, we were doing a lot of

606
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,041
Speaker 5: online sales, which kept us afloat and it was a

607
00:28:11,041 --> 00:28:14,521
Speaker 5: good time actually, just to really focus on what we

608
00:28:14,561 --> 00:28:18,241
Speaker 5: wanted to do. When we reopened in October, and once

609
00:28:18,281 --> 00:28:19,881
Speaker 5: we did and guns were blazing.

610
00:28:19,921 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: We were so busy.

611
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,321
Speaker 5: My kids were just I had help, but they were

612
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:28,081
Speaker 5: just everywhere and nowhere and no routine. And my husband

613
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,321
Speaker 5: was like, right, something's got to give, because you need

614
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 5: to be in the business. My kids are very athletics,

615
00:28:33,721 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 5: so there's something on every afternoon. So he sold his

616
00:28:37,561 --> 00:28:39,641
Speaker 5: business and he's been at home since.

617
00:28:39,881 --> 00:28:42,641
Speaker 1: And I tell you what, to.

618
00:28:42,641 --> 00:28:45,361
Speaker 5: The moms out there, there was a season for me

619
00:28:45,521 --> 00:28:48,721
Speaker 5: to be in that role, and I feel like now

620
00:28:48,721 --> 00:28:52,081
Speaker 5: it's his time because he has got so much discipline,

621
00:28:52,201 --> 00:28:54,881
Speaker 5: so much structure. The kids are in such good routine

622
00:28:55,441 --> 00:28:57,561
Speaker 5: that I think they would probably walk all over me

623
00:28:57,601 --> 00:28:59,321
Speaker 5: as teams we fill at home.

624
00:29:00,201 --> 00:29:01,601
Speaker 1: I love hearing those.

625
00:29:01,601 --> 00:29:03,681
Speaker 2: In today's modern society, there was a lot more stay

626
00:29:03,681 --> 00:29:06,841
Speaker 2: at home dads. Also a lot of conversations around and

627
00:29:06,881 --> 00:29:09,841
Speaker 2: sometimes somewhat negative. But I've never heard it being worded

628
00:29:09,881 --> 00:29:12,401
Speaker 2: like that that men do have a really good structure

629
00:29:12,681 --> 00:29:15,321
Speaker 2: and kids love boundaries, They love safety, they love knowing

630
00:29:15,401 --> 00:29:17,561
Speaker 2: what's coming next because they don't have to think or

631
00:29:17,561 --> 00:29:18,241
Speaker 2: be nervous.

632
00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:19,961
Speaker 1: I really love to hear that that's cool.

633
00:29:20,281 --> 00:29:23,641
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it works. It's worked for us, and he

634
00:29:23,801 --> 00:29:26,961
Speaker 5: loves it. So his relationship with the kids is amazing.

635
00:29:26,961 --> 00:29:29,681
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have it any other way. So that's where

636
00:29:29,761 --> 00:29:33,081
Speaker 5: I've kind of started. I just wanted my own business.

637
00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: I was ready.

638
00:29:34,281 --> 00:29:37,201
Speaker 5: My kids were older, they were a little bit more mature,

639
00:29:37,241 --> 00:29:41,041
Speaker 5: a bit self reliant, and I was ready just to

640
00:29:41,241 --> 00:29:44,241
Speaker 5: take on responsibility and do what I wanted to do

641
00:29:44,881 --> 00:29:48,081
Speaker 5: to really help people more, because that's what I'm here for.

642
00:29:48,281 --> 00:29:50,961
Speaker 5: My purpose is to make people feel confident in their skin.

643
00:29:51,161 --> 00:29:53,401
Speaker 5: So it was hard to do it working under people

644
00:29:53,481 --> 00:29:55,761
Speaker 5: because they don't always have the same vision and value

645
00:29:55,801 --> 00:29:56,161
Speaker 5: as you.

646
00:29:56,681 --> 00:29:59,321
Speaker 1: Yeah, running your own ship, I love that. Yeah, I'm curious.

647
00:29:59,321 --> 00:30:00,881
Speaker 1: You said you've got a fourteen year old daughter.

648
00:30:01,441 --> 00:30:05,481
Speaker 2: Do you find teenagers are getting the periods, having skin

649
00:30:05,561 --> 00:30:08,361
Speaker 2: issues way younger? Is your daughter experiencing any of that

650
00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:10,921
Speaker 2: or do you just find like her group of girlfriends

651
00:30:10,961 --> 00:30:13,081
Speaker 2: are experience Because I feel like little girls getting the

652
00:30:13,161 --> 00:30:14,721
Speaker 2: periods like nine, ten years old.

653
00:30:14,721 --> 00:30:16,521
Speaker 1: Now, that was not a thing when I was younger.

654
00:30:16,521 --> 00:30:18,921
Speaker 2: I'm turning thirty eight this year, but we didn't get

655
00:30:18,921 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: out periods to like fifteen sixteen, and now it's like

656
00:30:21,081 --> 00:30:21,641
Speaker 2: nine and ten.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she got hers in year six. Actually she'd probably

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Speaker 5: be mortified if I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: It, but that's five, age twelve. You got those in

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Speaker 1: ye six. But she was quite young, and she's very

661
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Speaker 1: lucky too.

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Speaker 5: She gets a little bit of I know, the week

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Speaker 5: before she's going to get her period, because she'll end

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Speaker 5: up with like a trail of acne spots down here.

665
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Speaker 5: But she's really good. I've gotten her on a really

666
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Speaker 5: good home care routine. I've also gotten my son onto

667
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Speaker 5: some products and my eleven year old.

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Speaker 1: So they're all really structured in I'm like, have you

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Speaker 1: done your skincare, have you lang your skin tonight? So

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Speaker 1: I love that start them young. I wish I started

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Speaker 1: younger taking care of her skin.

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Speaker 5: No what to do?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Even all of the lack of information that I had,

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Speaker 3: and also that my parents had at that age. When

676
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Speaker 3: I look back, I'm like, oh no, it was definitely

677
00:31:09,161 --> 00:31:11,961
Speaker 3: like my food. It was definitely my food and sugars

678
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Speaker 3: and all those sorts of things.

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Speaker 5: I think it's really common these days, and I see

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Speaker 5: a lot of teens with acne, and I definitely think

681
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Speaker 5: that it is a lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: It is diet.

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Speaker 5: It's the hormones that we have in our food, you know.

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Speaker 5: Not only that, it's the stress, like social media, and

685
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Speaker 5: we're in that process of banning phones, so when they

686
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Speaker 5: come home it's like no phone. You've only got it

687
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Speaker 5: for half an hour and an evening. But that impact

688
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Speaker 5: of stress and high cortisol, we don't realize what is

689
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Speaker 5: actually doing to their skin, to their mental state, especially

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Speaker 5: as teens. So I think it doesn't have to be.

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Speaker 5: And when I get mothers come in saying I don't

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Speaker 5: want to do heavy treatments on my kids, or I

693
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Speaker 5: don't want to overdo their treatments or their skincare.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to. You can keep it.

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Speaker 5: Really simple with good skincare, medical based skin care that

696
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Speaker 5: is going to help their skin, not strip them skin away,

697
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Speaker 5: and do treatments in clinic once every maybe eight weeks,

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Speaker 5: just to give them that extra exfoliation.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I'm always about keeping the skin in a healthy state,

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Speaker 5: So I would never go in and do a facial

702
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Speaker 5: on a teen where I'm going to peel them and

703
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Speaker 5: then they end up with red, raw skin.

704
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Speaker 1: Like that's not so.

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Speaker 5: I think it's really important also for parents to understand

706
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Speaker 5: that if you don't get on top of a teen

707
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Speaker 5: acne earlier on the chances of them with scarring and

708
00:32:36,401 --> 00:32:39,361
Speaker 5: long term effects. They're going to be a lot worse

709
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Speaker 5: than what it would be if you treated them while

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Speaker 5: it was still kind of active and while they were

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Speaker 5: a little bit younger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good for moms to hear this. I remember

713
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Speaker 2: for Easter one year, I think it was like thirteen

714
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Speaker 2: or fourteen. Instead of getting chocolate, my mum bought me

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Speaker 2: a clearer cel kit. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I was like, are you fucking kidding?

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's my chocolate, my chocolate.

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Speaker 2: And now looking back on like those products were probably

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Speaker 2: so bad, like I remember them being quite scrubby as well.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know that feeling when your skin feels clean.

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Speaker 2: But do all your natural oils soap on your face? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I think so bad. Bleach wasn't clear as so, like

723
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Speaker 1: really high, and so I think you're thinking of proactive.

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Speaker 1: Oh proactive? I use that also? Did I bad?

725
00:33:18,521 --> 00:33:21,001
Speaker 2: Because Justin Bieber was even like an ambassador for it

726
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Speaker 2: at one point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh shit, they definitely a good fear. No, I'm

728
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Speaker 3: so curious. Does your husband get on the bandwagon too?

729
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Speaker 3: You know how people make jokes about how men use

730
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Speaker 3: like three in one products and their whole body shampoo conditioner,

731
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Speaker 3: and then.

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Speaker 4: We have like an eight step skincare.

733
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Speaker 5: When I first met him, he was a body wash

734
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Speaker 5: and loofer guy, and I was like mortified, going but

735
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Speaker 5: he has good skin. He's an islander, so he's always

736
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Speaker 5: had great skin. And now yes, now he's like, okay,

737
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Speaker 5: what do I use now?

738
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Speaker 1: So I have to line them up.

739
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Speaker 5: I only use this three But every day I'm like,

740
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Speaker 5: have you got your SPF on?

741
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Speaker 1: Have you got your SPF on? And he's funny.

742
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Speaker 5: I used him as a guinea pig in the clinics,

743
00:34:00,001 --> 00:34:01,881
Speaker 5: so last week he was there he was a model

744
00:34:01,881 --> 00:34:05,041
Speaker 5: for our skin needling training session, so he came home

745
00:34:05,161 --> 00:34:08,281
Speaker 5: with a red face and get your hat on? Have

746
00:34:08,361 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: you got your sun's screen on? So I think he's

747
00:34:11,121 --> 00:34:14,681
Speaker 5: turning fifty this year and he's obviously starting to see

748
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Speaker 5: you know, more lines and things on his face and

749
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Speaker 5: a little bit of pigmentation and he's really becoming aware

750
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Speaker 5: of Okay, so when am I going next in for

751
00:34:23,761 --> 00:34:24,281
Speaker 5: a facial?

752
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Speaker 3: Like?

753
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Speaker 1: What else do I need to do?

754
00:34:26,321 --> 00:34:31,401
Speaker 5: So? Yeah, I've really changed his body wash and loof today.

755
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've increased to a three step skincare routine and

756
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Speaker 3: once every eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've got one more question for you. Just

758
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Speaker 1: back on SPF. I find it hard to find a

759
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Speaker 1: good SPF, and as much as I love DMK, I

760
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Speaker 1: do find it quite thick and on my skin it

761
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Speaker 1: doesn't feel very nice. Is DMK your favorite for sunscreen

762
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Speaker 1: or do you have another brand that you'd recommend that

763
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Speaker 1: feels a little bit lighter on the skin. So DMK

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Speaker 1: the fifty plus.

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Speaker 5: It's my favorite for beach days or when my kids

766
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Speaker 5: play sports because it is water resistant so if you

767
00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:01,721
Speaker 5: won't get in your eyes, and it's a fifty plus

768
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Speaker 5: that's why it's so thick. That's why it's so thick,

769
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Speaker 5: I think. But for everyday use. For me, I love

770
00:35:08,321 --> 00:35:12,881
Speaker 5: aspect the Aspect range, and because I suffer with malasma two.

771
00:35:13,161 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: For me, I needed to use the tinted SBF because

772
00:35:15,481 --> 00:35:18,161
Speaker 5: you need the iron oxide in it. So they've got

773
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Speaker 5: a whole sun range. Jump onto my shop, your seat

774
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Speaker 5: all there. But they have a great Csea cream which

775
00:35:24,281 --> 00:35:26,561
Speaker 5: is like a light tint. It's enough for me to

776
00:35:26,641 --> 00:35:29,721
Speaker 5: wear on a weekend and give me enough coverage. But

777
00:35:29,801 --> 00:35:33,441
Speaker 5: that's also a fifty plus and it's so light, so

778
00:35:33,601 --> 00:35:37,081
Speaker 5: that range would be definitely one aspect. I think it's

779
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Speaker 5: the Aspect Sun range.

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Speaker 2: It's called beful to know because I do have the

781
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Speaker 2: DMK fifty plus at home and I don't use it,

782
00:35:43,201 --> 00:35:44,721
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna start using all my kids because we

783
00:35:44,761 --> 00:35:46,561
Speaker 2: go to the beach so much too. So to know

784
00:35:46,601 --> 00:35:49,401
Speaker 2: that it's water resistant as well, that's super helpful. That's

785
00:35:49,441 --> 00:35:51,921
Speaker 2: forty days and stuff. So yeah, that's that's really good.

786
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Speaker 3: For anyone who's listening and wants to have a look

787
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Speaker 3: and shop through these products, Like where would they be able.

788
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Speaker 4: To find you?

789
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Speaker 5: Okas some shopping, Yeah, I'm like, let me write this down,

790
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Speaker 5: So it's www dot skinclinic, dot com dot AU. A

791
00:36:04,001 --> 00:36:07,361
Speaker 5: lot of the skincare lines so are password protected because

792
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Speaker 5: you do need a bit of a prescription for coction,

793
00:36:11,161 --> 00:36:14,001
Speaker 5: so it's best if you are interested and the range

794
00:36:14,081 --> 00:36:16,841
Speaker 5: does have a password protection, just send me an email

795
00:36:17,001 --> 00:36:19,521
Speaker 5: or there is like a bubble on my website that

796
00:36:19,601 --> 00:36:21,961
Speaker 5: you're just fill in your details. I'm more than happy

797
00:36:22,001 --> 00:36:24,241
Speaker 5: to jump onto a call with you, or we could

798
00:36:24,361 --> 00:36:27,441
Speaker 5: just correspond via email and then I can give you

799
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Speaker 5: the code and once you have the code, you can

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Speaker 5: shop forever more.

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Speaker 1: We will be in contact absolutely.

802
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Speaker 2: And do you have like Instagram? Do you post educational

803
00:36:38,001 --> 00:36:39,361
Speaker 2: content on there? Is there any other ways that we

804
00:36:39,361 --> 00:36:42,081
Speaker 2: can start learning from you and connection on Instagram?

805
00:36:42,121 --> 00:36:45,801
Speaker 5: It's at the skin Clinic in Concorde, Instagram and Facebook.

806
00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:50,041
Speaker 5: I'm slowly getting on the TikTok bandwagon so that I

807
00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:53,081
Speaker 5: think I'm too old school, but eventually I do post

808
00:36:53,081 --> 00:36:55,801
Speaker 5: a lot of educational things. But yeah, like I said,

809
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Speaker 5: I'm always open for anyone that needs any advice or

810
00:37:00,001 --> 00:37:01,041
Speaker 5: any skincare tips.

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Speaker 1: There's no strings attached, just I'm here to help.

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Speaker 5: So it's a fifteen minute call, give me your details

813
00:37:06,801 --> 00:37:08,921
Speaker 5: and I will be more than happy to answer any

814
00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:11,041
Speaker 5: skin concerns or questions that you may have.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, so good, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: We'll leave all of your details too in the show

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Speaker 2: notes below, just so anyone that is interested you can

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Speaker 2: find that below and you can reach out. You've got

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Speaker 2: nothing to lose around a fifteen minute call to find

820
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Speaker 2: out exactly like what products you need, a journey that

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Speaker 2: you can go on, and this is in Sydney, just

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Speaker 2: for anyone that's wondering in Sydney.

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Speaker 3: Yeah cool, Yeah, Honestly, if anyone listening who wants to book,

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Speaker 3: you have nothing to lose. And also if you're feeling

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Speaker 3: really overwhelmed with all the outside noise or you're running

826
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Speaker 3: into the stores and you just buying products just winging it,

827
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Speaker 3: don't be winging it.

828
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Speaker 4: Save you so much time.

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Speaker 3: And money and also like reassurance as well as your

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Speaker 3: skin journey.

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Speaker 1: So amazing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us from no I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate all the tips and advice. Oh I just

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Speaker 2: feel like I've walked away with so much more knowledge.

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Speaker 4: Around so much. Thank you so much. It has been amazing.

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Speaker 1: You're most welcome. Thank you so much, ladies,