WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 18 June

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<v Speaker 1>From the Sky Center. This is Paul Murray live. Say

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<v Speaker 1>gang the airbus Albo doesn't meet Trump's story? Who thought

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<v Speaker 1>there was another chapter? But there is a little attention

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<v Speaker 1>to detail. Will also tell us that maybe, just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have to leave the G seven in the

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<v Speaker 1>fashion in which he said he did. Now, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump was there with the other world leaders, but

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<v Speaker 1>today it was the kids table. Chance to stand out

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<v Speaker 1>there with the rest of the world leaders, minus the

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<v Speaker 1>most important one. And there he is, the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>smiling politely about Oh where are you from? Oh? Hello

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<v Speaker 1>him from Australia. Oh get, I'll get a flat. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you know? You know, just as here I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I know everyone, and I'm so comfortable in the world

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<v Speaker 1>stage radio. But of course the main game had already

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<v Speaker 1>moved on President of the United States. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the again today basically the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only two days. One day was the seven most

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<v Speaker 1>important countries in the world according to that grouping. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course China and Russia not part of that. Then of

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<v Speaker 1>course the B team, the kid's table, who weren't even

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to dine with those main leaders last night, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they had their moment today. Now I know you know

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, right, but I'm telling you tonight there's

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<v Speaker 1>some new detail worth talking about here. There's some extra

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<v Speaker 1>detail that, under the cover of football and the fog

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<v Speaker 1>of war, that we probably should take a moment because

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<v Speaker 1>I know that in the end the left of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who at this point in time are in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of almost everything, which means anything other than everything is

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<v Speaker 1>okay will be wiped from the record. But you, by

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here this hour, this night, are able to learn

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<v Speaker 1>something that they will all pretend does not exist by

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<v Speaker 1>this time tomorrow. Today Labor Party people had to go

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<v Speaker 1>around and tell us everything's fine. There was starting person

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing at all about the idea that the President

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States didn't just blow off the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with the Australian Prime Minister. But of course, even when

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<v Speaker 1>on the same day he had blown off a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>which was supposed to happen to day with the Mexican president,

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<v Speaker 1>he called the Mexican president during the multiplower flight from

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<v Speaker 1>Canada to Washington, d C. Australia not on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was the spin today.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was always a chance of happening, given what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening around the world and particularly in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 3>It's completely understandable that the US President would be returning

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<v Speaker 3>to Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>To deal with that.

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<v Speaker 3>We shouldn't be reading more into it than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, let's enjoy Richard Miles specifically though, Now that was

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<v Speaker 1>him once he was sort of out and about, but

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<v Speaker 1>this morning he was here having a conversation on Sky

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<v Speaker 1>News this morning. Questions are clear answer, nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 4>Has there been any indication from Israel that there may

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<v Speaker 4>be a window opening soon for flights out of Israel?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I'm not in a position to give a definitive

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<v Speaker 3>answer in relation to any of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this an indication that the US is prepping for

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<v Speaker 4>a strike against Iran?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, obviously I'm not about to speculate on what America

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<v Speaker 3>is going to do, and I'm certainly not a spokesperson

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<v Speaker 3>for the US government.

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<v Speaker 4>Has the Prime Minister just avoided having to try to

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<v Speaker 4>justify America giving US nuclear submarines out of its own

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<v Speaker 4>navy fleet and thereby weakening itself to strengthen Australia when Australia,

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<v Speaker 4>and Trump's view, is not spending enough to look after

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<v Speaker 4>our own defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a lot in that question.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you expect that he will recommend Australia to increase

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<v Speaker 4>defense spending as well during that meeting?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think there's a lot which has talked about

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<v Speaker 3>in relation to.

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<v Speaker 4>Has China indicated yet that they will be sending warships

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<v Speaker 4>to our region to monitor the exercise? Talisman Saber?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not going to surprise you. Well, I say

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<v Speaker 3>that China don't forecast any of that to us in advance.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you expect there's a chance that China will conduct

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<v Speaker 4>its own exercises next month?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, again, I'm not about to speculate on any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it over? Is it over yet? Has he finished?

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<v Speaker 1>Questions were clear, he could wouldn't go anywhere near it,

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<v Speaker 1>But such his life. Oh, that only happened on sky.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't worry about it. Nobody was able to remember

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. Please please, But the two bits of detail

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<v Speaker 1>that I really want you to see tonight is what

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<v Speaker 1>about the prominence? Now again, I stand by for those

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<v Speaker 1>that are half paying attention, for those that are looking

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason to put me on a pilot, people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't understand what's going on. I hope Australia has

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting. Whenever it happens, I hope it's positive. I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly hope that the current Prime Minister, who yes I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't vote for but still we deal with for the

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<v Speaker 1>next three years, is able to form some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a personal life relationship that means we're able to start

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<v Speaker 1>doing deals, whatever those are big or small. I want

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<v Speaker 1>that to take place. But don't you just love the

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<v Speaker 1>face saving. The face saving that was there for the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime minister today. Remember, I'm off to the G seven

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<v Speaker 1>to meet the President of the United States. Reality, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have dinner with him because he was with more

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<v Speaker 1>important world leaders. I was at the kids table, and

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<v Speaker 1>today I got to meet other second and third class

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<v Speaker 1>world leaders and then have her listen to what he

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<v Speaker 1>throws in at the end to make it seem like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know everybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>I had discussions with President mccron of France, Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>Modi of India, Prime Minister Ramoposa of South Africa, Prime

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<v Speaker 5>Minister Shinbaum of Mexico, Prime Minister Maloney of Italy, as

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<v Speaker 5>well as saying gooday to a whole bunch of other

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<v Speaker 5>people during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, I met this one and this one and this one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I said good aid to people. Well, by

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<v Speaker 1>that logic, I must have a thousand best friends, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I walk in and out of Bunnings, I say

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<v Speaker 1>good aid to people, they may or may not wave back.

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<v Speaker 1>When I go to the shops, mate, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm hanging out with Asher and Zadi and they

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<v Speaker 1>love this. When I just start randomly talking to other

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<v Speaker 1>members of the public, get a oh, they're all my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Now according to this global level of leader interaction, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to make it look like, oh, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>We were dumped. And again I repeat, I understand he

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<v Speaker 1>had to get out of Dodge. Why because it was

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<v Speaker 1>very serious things he had to deal with. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know what's been happening in between Israel and Iran. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>another little bit of detail I want you to learn about. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this will be brushed from the record. It

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<v Speaker 1>will not exist anywhere. It will be a fever dream

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<v Speaker 1>in our minds. Now, remember when we were told that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Trump absolutely number one reason he had to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the White House was not because he

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<v Speaker 1>was over and he'd had enough of mccron. He was

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<v Speaker 1>not going to meet the B team. Not only had

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<v Speaker 1>to get back, why because of the beginning the cusp

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<v Speaker 1>of World War three? And yes that might be so

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the first thing he did, was running

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<v Speaker 1>into the situation room. But it wasn't the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>he did yesterday. Exactly in and around the time that

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<v Speaker 1>he would have been meeting with the Australian Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>we learned that Donald Trump was doing something he considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be more important than meeting the Australian Prime ministert

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Uneasy, and that was inspecting not one, but two

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<v Speaker 1>new flag poles that he himself, as a personal citizen,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to donate to the White House so the

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<v Speaker 1>American flag will be visible from the public streets. And

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<v Speaker 1>while the President had no time to meet the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister, who's saying geta to other world leaders. This

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<v Speaker 1>came out. This came out at ten to twenty Australian

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<v Speaker 1>time today, so that was about six ish American time.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have already met the Prime minister, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was no time for that. Instead, these are the most

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<v Speaker 1>magnificent poles made. They are tall, tapered rustproof rope inside

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<v Speaker 1>the pole and the highest quality. Now I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been able to give that gift. But again, if

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<v Speaker 1>we were told the reason I've absolutely got to go

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<v Speaker 1>is because I'm one hundred percent focused on potentially World

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<v Speaker 1>War three. But in the middle of that, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of time for what he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely gift to the White House. They've been a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of poles. It may be just maybe and given

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<v Speaker 1>them we're now what a couple of days in between

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<v Speaker 1>the urgent run out of the meeting and nothing taking

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<v Speaker 1>place to this point in time, that maybe, just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was done with it. Maybe just maybe he saw

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<v Speaker 1>that on the call sheet was, among others, some guy

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<v Speaker 1>from Australia. Do I have to see the guy from Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he's the one who said he was what

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<v Speaker 1>oh s scared of me? Okay, no, But don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a chance that the media may well eventually get

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<v Speaker 1>what they want, which is this meeting of which we

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<v Speaker 1>could ask difficult questions of the President of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States to try to play into the American news cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>of which Anthony Abernezi will be able to make some

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<v Speaker 1>passive aggressive comments. Because I'm standing up for Australia's rights.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we will show far more balls at his

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with the President of the United States than he would,

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<v Speaker 1>of course in the boot looking exercise with the president

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<v Speaker 1>of China, because he's managing the relationship well. According to

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<v Speaker 1>people that are in and around where the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>is right now in Canada, there's a chance he might

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<v Speaker 1>put himself through this whole nonsense again in about a

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<v Speaker 1>week's time again. Like I'm mucking around here, I'm laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at these people, but obviously I want a meeting. I

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be good. But everyone's spinning here. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to get away because I'm the middle of World

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<v Speaker 1>War three. But look at these flagpoles. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was busy. I had people to say, get a

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<v Speaker 1>two on the other end of things. A day after

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<v Speaker 1>Albinizi said Defense Minister Richard Marles would be attending the

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<v Speaker 1>NATO summit on Australia's behalf, the Prime Minister has announced

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<v Speaker 1>he may go instead. Why the volatile state of the

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<v Speaker 1>world so yesterday when there had already been fire exchanged

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<v Speaker 1>between Israel Iran Iran Israel, not to mention all of

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<v Speaker 1>the other instabilities of the world. No, No males will

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<v Speaker 1>be going in my place. Why because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid that bloke on Sky and he's calling me airbus Albo.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead, I don't know, sub him out because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance for me to get that FaceTime and the

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<v Speaker 1>passive aggressive and all the rest of it and bring

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<v Speaker 1>the media mates with me to talk to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Sources said, if a meeting with the President could be

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<v Speaker 1>locked in, he would go. Jeez. Exclusives. Exclusives. Sources say

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<v Speaker 1>if they could organize a meeting, he'd go to the meeting. Okay, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of conversation happening, says one and again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not having a crack at Philip Curiy. I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a crack at the sources. The White House confirmed two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago that Trump will be attending the NATA summit

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<v Speaker 1>Dune twenty four to twenty five, although the State Department

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<v Speaker 1>has warned on Wednesday nothing is certain. Why because of

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious I just love I love the media being

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<v Speaker 1>more upset that they didn't get the chance to play

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<v Speaker 1>their voodoo and all the rest of it on the

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<v Speaker 1>president that they don't like and polish up the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister that they do like. I love that. The Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister that we have among other things, says oh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said good to a lot of people. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>a world later and the President has to go because

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<v Speaker 1>World War three is on. But in between all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see the flagpiles they bought for the joint

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<v Speaker 1>I love this place, I really do. Now there is

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<v Speaker 1>a chart I have shown you many many times because

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<v Speaker 1>it is the future of the Australian relationship between government

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<v Speaker 1>debt and the future of our country. Now I want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep this up because you've seen it a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>For those who do not remember. If you remember it, though,

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<v Speaker 1>say it along with me. Every single blue line inside

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<v Speaker 1>the red rectangle budget deficits between this year, next year,

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<v Speaker 1>the year after five years, ten years, twenty years, all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to twenty sixty three. Every one of those

0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.520
<v Speaker 1>deficits is added on top of the previous one, the

0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.400
<v Speaker 1>previous one, the previous one, the previous one, and even

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<v Speaker 1>before this red line starts, where are trillion dollars in debt?

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<v Speaker 1>Just putting a couple of those columns together will get

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<v Speaker 1>us to one and a half trillion eventually two and

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<v Speaker 1>goodness forbid, even further than that. So this matters, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This basically is that the federal budget is structurally spending

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<v Speaker 1>more money than is coming in, even when the population

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<v Speaker 1>will increase to forty million people by the twenty sixties. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Charmers, fresh the federal election campaign, he was at

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<v Speaker 1>the National Press Club today where he confirmed what I

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<v Speaker 1>have been saying for years, what Treasury confirmed since two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and twenty three. Oh, but now it's news that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to admit it. As far away from a

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<v Speaker 1>federal election as possible, he has admitted that his budget

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<v Speaker 1>is not yet sustainable, and it depends on productivity and

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<v Speaker 1>productivity growth. Put simply, it's not sustainable because as the

0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.320
<v Speaker 1>population grows, so will the expenses of the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>But the income to the federal government will not match

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<v Speaker 1>the explosion in spending because they have promised too much

0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:49.280
<v Speaker 1>spending in too many areas, for too many people. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the Treasurer finally admitting what we've known for years but

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<v Speaker 1>have had confirmed by his own treasury. That document I

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<v Speaker 1>show you that graph is from twenty twenty three, so

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<v Speaker 1>before Trump, before a whole bunch of the before what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in the middle of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>The next forty years were screwed. From twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing to see here. Everything's also in twenty four. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the reelection in twenty five and now this.

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<v Speaker 2>To deliver higher living standards for our people. We recognize

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<v Speaker 2>three blunt truths. Our budget is stronger, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>yet sustainable enough. Our economy is growing, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>productive enough. It is resilient, but it's not resilient enough

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<v Speaker 2>in the face of all of this global economic volatility.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're not the first, they won't be the last.

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<v Speaker 1>But these people were able to get themselves not just

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<v Speaker 1>re elected, but with a thumper, so much so that

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<v Speaker 1>the opposition that was already behind the eight ball is

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<v Speaker 1>now gasping for a political life. So they are in

0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.320
<v Speaker 1>a perfect political position to suggest they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>around for a very, very long time. But as they

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<v Speaker 1>did with the vote for us and cost of living,

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<v Speaker 1>will we get better? The majority of people fell for

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<v Speaker 1>the lie in twenty two. We told you it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lie. They said it wasn't a lie. The reality

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<v Speaker 1>turned out that it was a lie. We've turned the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's awesome, everything's okay, we're excellent economic managers. We told

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<v Speaker 1>you it was a lie, but people fell for the lie,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we get proof of the lie being a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get to this scenario about exactly what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take place. And what is going to take place

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<v Speaker 1>is a thing called tax reform. And I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to hear how many times he said it in the

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<v Speaker 1>speech to make sure that even the idiot right up

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<v Speaker 1>the back was able to learn. Hey, guys, tax reform, tax.

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<v Speaker 2>Reform, tax reform, tax reform, tax reform, tax reform, tax reform,

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<v Speaker 2>tax reform, tax reform.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you may well think tax reform just means cutting

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<v Speaker 1>taxes everywhere. Well, we already know that that has been

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game over the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, if you rob the government of revenue

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<v Speaker 1>but you continue to increase in spending, then guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>The budget becomes unsustainable. So there's one option, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to cut back the amount that you are spending, but

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<v Speaker 1>of course that would create losers and cuts cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>cuts is sort of the evil uga bug and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that has very successfully worked against the Liberal Party for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of elections. Now, so guess what tax reform

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<v Speaker 1>means increasing revenue to the federal government. And you may

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<v Speaker 1>well read and every time you hear that there's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough tax reform, you pretty much now need to read

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<v Speaker 1>that there's not enough plans for increasing revenue. Now, obviously, politically,

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<v Speaker 1>would they ever put up the tax rates on the

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<v Speaker 1>individual worker, remember, the single biggest source of revenue to

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government. Know why because those people vote. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course they're going to go after a certain section

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<v Speaker 1>of those people who may well not traditionally vote for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they might go after businesses of which they don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if they hit the wall or not. Because remember

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<v Speaker 1>how many times we talk about the plan is the

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.440
<v Speaker 1>triangle to be dependent via handout, to be dependent because

0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you work for them, or to be dependent if government

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<v Speaker 1>is your biggest customer. This gets into sixty seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the population. Look at what Andrews and Alan have

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<v Speaker 1>done in Victoria, what Palichet until recently had done in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>See how people don't rock the boat. Well. Ken Henry

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<v Speaker 1>is a man who was hired by the Rudgun to do,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, a full root and branch review of

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<v Speaker 1>the tax system. He of course has come in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of well plenty of corporate jobs, but the media

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<v Speaker 1>often turned to him as the guy who did the

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<v Speaker 1>tax reform review. The tax review so interestingly in a review.

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<v Speaker 1>In a interview with the Australian Financial Review, Ken Henry

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of starting to build the cat about what

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<v Speaker 1>tax reform would actually mean. Can I read this to you?

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, the rate of the GST is going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be increased. Okay, So the GST is

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<v Speaker 1>going to.

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<v Speaker 6>Go up.

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<v Speaker 1>And its base is going to have to be broad

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<v Speaker 1>and meaning more things, more things. I'm just running on

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<v Speaker 1>this down in GST. You know, it's like fresh food

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<v Speaker 1>revenue is not a problem. If you want to boost

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<v Speaker 1>the federal budget overnight by fifty billion dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>all you would have to do is apply a carbon

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<v Speaker 1>tax at the present price of carbon credits to the

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<v Speaker 1>carbon embedded in a stratus fossil fuel exports, coal and gas.

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<v Speaker 1>That would give you fifty billion dollars a year. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>that I know that by just putting a price tag

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<v Speaker 1>on something, theoretically, theoretically you're able to clik the tick

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<v Speaker 1>and that fifty billion dollars. But maybe if the cost

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<v Speaker 1>and the difference between the profit you make on the

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<v Speaker 1>export is anything under that fifty billion dollars the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are exporting it won't do because they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it to lose money. Mate. The former treasury

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<v Speaker 1>head said that the government should also address a really

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<v Speaker 1>bigger normally of superannuation. Okay, so that one as well

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<v Speaker 1>super taxes. Okay. So despite the fact that you since

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen nineties have been putting your money away, forced

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<v Speaker 1>to do so by the government on the provision that

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, five, seven, eleven percent, sixteen percent, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the public service, is being put away, that

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<v Speaker 1>nothing will ever eat away at it. Oh but now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big giant pot of money, thanks very much,

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<v Speaker 1>we might change the taxes on that very So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what tax reform is going to mean. Okay, Now we

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<v Speaker 1>might clip a little bit here. But the reason we're

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<v Speaker 1>clipping a little bit here is because we can sell

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<v Speaker 1>that to all of the little mushrooms who vote and

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<v Speaker 1>because they work for companies they don't run companies, because

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<v Speaker 1>they work for businesses that don't own businesses. Who cares

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<v Speaker 1>well the reality after multiple years of this government, its

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<v Speaker 1>policies and its administration. There are thousands, thousands of businesses

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<v Speaker 1>that don't exist anymore. A record number went to the

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<v Speaker 1>wall in the past three years. And guess what the

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<v Speaker 1>latest numbers about where we are this year compared to

0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:20.480
<v Speaker 1>last year is we're even higher than that. Nearly seven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand business collapseses insolvencies surge, particular areas that are copying

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<v Speaker 1>at the construction industry, food and accommodation. But because of

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<v Speaker 1>course all of that's not run by the federal government

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.040
<v Speaker 1>or the state government or the local government, who cares. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the number of businesses shutting their doors has reached a

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<v Speaker 1>historic high as almost seven thousand businesses across New South

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Wales have become insolvent in the past eleven months. Data

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<v Speaker 1>shows insolvency in New South Wales increase by twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>percent from the same time period last year, which was

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<v Speaker 1>five and a bit. It's now almost seven thousand businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you see, they're outside of the triangle, right, anything

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the triangle. The only thing that it is

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<v Speaker 1>for is to give money to the triangle. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>The latest ATTIC insolvency data reveals one thousand businesses in

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<v Speaker 1>the accommodation and food services sector, mostly cafes and restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>have shut their doors close to two thousand construction companies

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<v Speaker 1>between July one last year May twenty five this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's compare this state to state and is the most

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<v Speaker 1>insolvencies compared to others. Victoria has five thousand of them,

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Queensland has three thousand of them. Western Australia has twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hundred of them and South Australia has eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty All but now it's the time for tax reform,

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<v Speaker 1>tax reform, tax reform, tax reform, yep, nothing will it

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<v Speaker 1>all happen to the businesses of Australia. If you increase

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<v Speaker 1>the GST from ten to twelve to fifteen percent, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>most of that money will go to the States, which

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<v Speaker 1>means less complaining from them, but still the sticker price

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to go up. Oh that's serious. That's serious

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<v Speaker 1>tax reform. Just charging people more is not tax reform.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just trying to find the fuel to fill

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<v Speaker 1>the tank for how hot the government is running when

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>it comes to its own expenditure, which by its own admission,

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<v Speaker 1>will be in deficit next year the year after the

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<v Speaker 1>year after that. As far as we can see for

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the next forty years. But because it'll turn around and

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<v Speaker 1>say Donald Trump's fault trumpsfahlt orange Man bad, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone turn around and say, yeah, okay, you might say

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<v Speaker 1>orange Man bad, but your treasury made this forecast in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. In fact, it came out on the

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<v Speaker 1>same day that he was having his mug shot taken

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, Georgia, so he was as far away from

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the presidency as anyone could possibly imagine, literally giving his

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprints and taking a photo. But you watch what they

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<v Speaker 1>knew would be bad. By twenty five, twenty six. They

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>will now turn around and blame them an orange man beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because they can, because they do, and because most

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>of the media is along for the ride, they'll never

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.400
<v Speaker 1>call it out. Hence why they will just keep trying

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to bunk a buster at us. But we need you

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<v Speaker 1>to be here live nine o'clock Australian Eastern homepage skoy

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<v Speaker 1>on news dot com. Are you when you see these

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>videos pop up on YouTube? Share them around your mates again,

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<v Speaker 1>None of this is contestable. This is all facts, right,

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 1>facts from assic, facts from the Treasury at facts from

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>what the Treasurer said today. But because big footy game on,

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<v Speaker 1>have a look over there. Something's happening on the other

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>side of the world. Prime Minister saying get ata world

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.719
<v Speaker 1>letters rather than meeting the most important one in the world.

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Because he's putting flagpoles up out the front of the

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>White House. Nothing to see so quickly about matters to

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<v Speaker 1>do with conflict right now. So right now, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's about two o'clock in the afternoon in Israel. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about twoint thirty in the afternoon right now in Iran,

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:09.919
<v Speaker 1>and it is about seven point thirty I think in

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the morning at the White House. Now, the latest news

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>from the Iranian leader is the Iranian leader say we

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>are not going to surrender, meaning there's about to potentially

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<v Speaker 1>be this giant face off white because we know that

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 1>there is massive pressure, massive pressure, massive pressure to say, hey,

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the current people are running Iran, get out of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you don't get out of the way, we

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where you are and among others Israel, United

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<v Speaker 1>States will kill you. If that doesn't happen, then the

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<v Speaker 1>hope is going to be to make sure that Iran's

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<v Speaker 1>capacity to build a nuclear bomb to principally go after Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>but potentially make its way all the way over to

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the east coast of the United States. Is what they

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<v Speaker 1>need to blow up, and need to blow up very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously the more time that rolls on, the more

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<v Speaker 1>chance there is for them to move the things that

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>need to be moved. Now, you know, they've hit a

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of stuff they can see above the ground.

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole bunch of stuff that is below the ground,

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and that is this area here, essentially a couple hundred

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>meters under the ground, is all of the serious stuff

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that is part of their weapons program. When it comes

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to nuclear bombs. As you know by now, there is

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<v Speaker 1>only one bomb and one bomb in the world that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be able to crack through the rock,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you keep throwing a few others down the

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>hole that produces, until eventually it drills down and blows

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<v Speaker 1>away all the stuff that is below the ground. You

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<v Speaker 1>know this thing to be the bunker Buster twenty feet

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<v Speaker 1>five inches in the old language. You can see what

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<v Speaker 1>that's like compared to the size of a normal human being.

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington Post explains how it works. Will put simply,

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<v Speaker 1>it can once it blasts through the ground, go two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred feet underground. A fuse then detonates a warhead, and

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<v Speaker 1>an explosion happens after it's drilled itself two hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground. Once you've got a hole, once you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a channel, then additional bombs keept being thrown in

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<v Speaker 1>down that tube, and that tube starts to widen out

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<v Speaker 1>until eventually you can cut the whole top of the

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<v Speaker 1>mountain off or hundreds of meters down into the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>The only people who have it are the Americans, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why we are talking about what's Donald Trump going

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Why does it matter what the Iranians respond with?

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<v Speaker 1>Israel says slowly buttually they might be able to carve

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<v Speaker 1>away at it, but they can't. They don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>technology to do this. The only country that does is

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Now a whole bunch of reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>they may want to do it to take a bad

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<v Speaker 1>player off the table, or don't want to do it

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<v Speaker 1>because they maybe don't want to expose the technology. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't clearly, I'm not involved in the situation room, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is essentially kind of trying to fill the information

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<v Speaker 1>gap until we actually know what is going to be

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>taking place. But a little further explanation about how these

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<v Speaker 1>things work from the Associated Press.

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<v Speaker 7>Bunker Buster is is not a specific momb It's a

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<v Speaker 7>type of bomb. What we're talking about is a specific

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<v Speaker 7>American weapon, which is thirty thousand pound precision guided bomb,

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<v Speaker 7>and it can only be carried by the B two

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<v Speaker 7>stealth bomber right now, because that's the only plan that's

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<v Speaker 7>configured to carry such a weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>Old school Republicans say, use it.

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<v Speaker 8>I said from the very beginning, it is an our

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<v Speaker 8>national security interest to make sure Ran doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 8>nuclear weapon. They're an ex obstential threat to our friends

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<v Speaker 8>in Israel. They really do mean death to Israel, but

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<v Speaker 8>they also mean death to America. It is my belief

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<v Speaker 8>that President Trump understands the threat the ietotal possents to us,

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<v Speaker 8>not just Israel, and that he will, at the end

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<v Speaker 8>of the day, help Israel finish the job. And that

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<v Speaker 8>will require I think, weapons that Israel doesn't possess, and

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<v Speaker 8>maybe joint military operations.

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<v Speaker 1>New school Republicans more so sort of standalone MAGA people, well,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>they hate the idea. They don't want it because they

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>think it might be the beginning all of something that

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>will become something like a rock or Afghanistan. Tucker Colson,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to Ted Kruz, who's kind of got a foot

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<v Speaker 1>in both camps, tried to frame embarrass him today by

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<v Speaker 1>how little he knew about the country of which he

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>wants to bomb. How many people living around? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the population at all.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't know the population.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't know the population of the country you seek

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<v Speaker 9>to topple.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people living around?

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<v Speaker 10>Ninety two million?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, how could you not know that? I don't

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>sit around memorizing population tables. But then there is this

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 1>lovely little bit of information as the media tries to

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>fill the very many tense hours between the president leaving

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the G seven to get back to Washington to make

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>this decision about does he or does he not use

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<v Speaker 1>the only weapon in the world that will be able

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to essentially finish off Iran's capacity to ever have a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapon, or at least have one for any time

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<v Speaker 1>on the foresillable future. And there are people that are

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to read anything into everything, and sometimes they can

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>get to sort of the silly levels of things. The

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Pentagon thirty thousand people work in that building, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as the heartbeat of everything to do with the national

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<v Speaker 1>defense of the United States. And apparently some smarty pants

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>have worked out that pizza may well tell us about

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>whether the world is about to go to war him

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Times of London, they have said that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a way potentially being able to predict a

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<v Speaker 1>guy of crisis about how much pizza is being ordered

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<v Speaker 1>by people inside the Pentagon. Take all this with a

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<v Speaker 1>giant grain of salt in which I'm presenting it to you.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>But apparently there is a Twitter account, and apparently the

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>people are using as much information as they possibly can

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<v Speaker 1>to work out whether the people inside the Pentagon are

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<v Speaker 1>staying late, you know, preparing for war. Let's turn to

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>inside addition for their explanation.

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<v Speaker 10>And pizza deliveries to the Pentagon serve as a predictor

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<v Speaker 10>of a looming international crisis. That's what happened when Israel

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 10>launched its preemptive strike on Iran last week. According to

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 10>an account on x called the Pentagon Pizza Report, nearly

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<v Speaker 10>all pizza establishments nearby the Pentagon have experienced a huge

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<v Speaker 10>surge in activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Please tell me more.

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<v Speaker 9>When US military personnel face a national emergency. They work

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<v Speaker 9>late into the night and can't leave their desks, so

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<v Speaker 9>ordering pizza from local pizza joints is the cheapest and

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<v Speaker 9>easiest choice for.

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<v Speaker 1>Food other than the Pentagon Canteen.

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<v Speaker 10>At eight fifty seven pm Thursday, the Pentagon Pizza Report

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<v Speaker 10>reported that the closest and second closest dominos to the

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<v Speaker 10>Pentagon had surged in traffic surges and pizza deliveries were

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<v Speaker 10>also reported at other local pizza places like District Pizza

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<v Speaker 10>Palace and We the Pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll all find out together, won't we. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into this right now with a carry out

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<v Speaker 1>a champ. Is Stephen Conroy here this evening, this Wednesday night. Finally, finally, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Bromin's on the show tomorrow, everyone, though, relax. Challenging him

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>tonight is Maggie Forrest Marriaggi as a lawyer. She politically,

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>of course, has stood for the LMP instead of Ryan

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>at the last federal election. Let's see if she can

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>get your number. But I think I think he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>good here, Maggie. Lovely to see you, mate. We're trying

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>to get lots of new faces on and thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>joining the family.

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let us talk about here about whether

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister should or shouldn't go chasing Trump around

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the world. Now, Stephen, even you, even you actually no,

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to set you a task. I'm going to

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.719
<v Speaker 1>set your task. Can we get the grab of Albo

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>saying how it didn't matter there was no meeting with

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the president today because he got to say get aid

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to people while walking around a conference center today and

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>then I won't say a word, and Stephen, you get

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>to pick it up straight after Albo finishes telling us

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>how massive a day he had on the international circuit

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>today roller tape.

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<v Speaker 5>So I had discussions with President mccron of France, Prime

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<v Speaker 5>Minister Modi of India, Prime Minister Ramoposa of South Africa,

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 5>Prime Minister Shinbaum of Mexico, Prime Minister Maloney of Italy,

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 5>as well as saying it to a whole bunch of

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 5>other people during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Steve.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Clearly he is a master networker.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 12>I mean he got to talk to all those people

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 12>in a pretty short period of time.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think the purpose.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 12>Of going there was we got an invitation from the

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 12>Canadian Prime minister, not from Donald Trump.

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 12>Correct, It's important for Australia to be represented at these forums.

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<v Speaker 12>Prime ministers of all political persuasions have been to them before,

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 12>so I think it's important that he was there in

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<v Speaker 12>the first place.

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<v Speaker 6>The fact that Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 12>Needed to go back to the US because obviously there's

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 12>something pretty big and he said that himself going to

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 12>happen soon is you know, he treated everybody at the

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 12>G seven exactly the same way. Australia's not getting worse

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 12>treatment or favorable treatment compared to how he's treating every

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 12>other world leader.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I agree, but Maggie, if you know, surely

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<v Speaker 1>we expect a little more out of these grain global

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>trips and airbus elbow than just I said, get aid

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to some people.

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, Paul, But I do think that Albanezi should go

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 11>to NATO to pursue a meeting with President Trump, and

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 11>I think while in person meeting between the two of

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 11>them should have happened a long time ago, given how

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 11>crucial australia strategic partnership with America is, and especially with

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 11>Orcus under a view in America the Greens here in

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 11>Australia calling for Australia to withdraw from ucas it's crucial

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 11>for the Prime Minister to travel to NATO to secure

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 11>a meeting with President Trump and to secure Australia's future

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 11>and security.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So about that point, though, Stephen, do you

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>think that he should be setting in if he can

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>do something on the sidelines of NATO or frankly kind

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of dodges a bullet here, right, because I know some

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>of them, and look, the main people I am laughing

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>about about all of this, apart from the other pmsns

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>today was the media sort of setting the most important

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>meeting of his care all of this stuff that was

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come, it wasn't North and South Korea like

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>fed inkim. But that's it. If there's a window, you

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>take it. Do you push for the window? Do you

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of just you know, not really put that much

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>effort into it. What's if there's if there's a chance,

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>do you do it next week or does all this

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.919
<v Speaker 1>happen again in a week's time.

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<v Speaker 12>Look, I mean, firstly to your point about how the

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 12>media are trying to create this this fuel, I.

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 6>Think you're dead right. I mean, this is a media bubble.

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 12>The people inside the bubble are fascinating themselves with this

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 12>conversation else and the rest of Australia is following it

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 12>like this bubble of the media. So well, I think

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 12>it is important to pursue as he's indicated, because despite

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 12>the media trying to say, what's Donald Trump going to

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 12>say to him? It's what we need to say to

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 12>Donald Trump. We need to press him over the tariffs.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 12>We need to press him over alument and aluminium and steel,

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 12>which is.

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<v Speaker 6>Double to terrify. We need to press that point.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 12>We need to press the point that We're not going

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 12>to allow him to make drugs in Australia more expensive

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 12>because he wants to panda to the American pharmaceutical companies.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 12>We need to press the point that we're not going

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:23.280
<v Speaker 12>to let the American tech giants dictate how Australia's sovereign

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 12>government can behave because he's talking about getting behind them

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 12>and putting punishments on countries that won't accept the Marga

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 12>definition of free speech. So I think it's important for

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<v Speaker 12>two reasons or three reasons. And then you have the

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 12>most important one, which is to make the point to

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<v Speaker 12>Trump that Australia contributing up to three to four billion

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 12>dollars towards the American manufacture of submarines, and he needs

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 12>to understand that part. He needs to understand that Australia

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 12>and our geographic position to borrow from Richard Miles and

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 12>all Richard Miles is guilty of his telling the truth.

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 12>If the Child and Americans get into a spat, will

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 12>be drawn into it, whether we want to be in

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 12>it or not, simply because of the use of our

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 12>joint facilities to provide intelligence and satellite cover for the

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 12>half of a day, every single day, where the satellites

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 12>can't go direct to the US or the UK. Geographically,

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 12>we're vitally important to the American strategic interests. So it's

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 12>important for Albo to be making all of those points

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 12>to Donald Trump, not just taking a lecture from him

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 12>about how much he thinks we should spend on defense. Well,

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 12>we'll decide that ourselves. We're a sovereign nation, so we'll

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 12>decide our policy on drugs, will decide our policy on defense,

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 12>We'll decide our policy on the Internet. And those points

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 12>all need to be made to Donald Trump. This is

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 12>not one way traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm with it all right now, Maggie. Let's talk

0:37:55.440 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>about tax reform now again. One of these the political words,

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.240
<v Speaker 1>political terms where you can spin it in the direction

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of everyone should pay less, so you can spin in

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a direction of well, most will pay less theoretically, but

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>plenty of many will get will pay more, which means

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get it from somewhere else. As I

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>said in Today five times five times in Charmer's speech

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>is when he talked about tax reform, the media turn

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to people like Ken Henry used to run I think

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the National Australian Bank, but of course.

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<v Speaker 6>Plenty treasure. You've got to give me a go. You've

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:28.959
<v Speaker 6>got to give me a go on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. Long run up, long run up, long run up.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 6>I want a long run up on this one, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically his shopping list is gst increase, broaden superannuation

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>taxes and there's an easy fifty billion by just clipping

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the ticket of everything that leaves the country. Maggie, what

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>do you think all this means?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I see that Jim Chalmers is saying that really

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 11>everything's on the table, and he's planning to have a

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 11>round table later in the year, and he's not even

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 11>sure if he'll take any policies agreed at that range

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 11>table to the people before he implements them. What I'm

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 11>sure about is that the Liberal Party understands that good

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 11>tax reform means lower taxes and sensible spending. In the

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 11>Liberal Party, we understand that every cent the government has

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 11>to spend belongs to the people. And in contrast, we've

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 11>got the current Labor government with their plan to tax

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 11>the hard working earnings of hard working Australians and tax

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 11>unrealized gains on superannuation, and the fact that that tax

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 11>isn't going to be index means that hundreds and thousands

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 11>of Australians are going to be impacted, and more and

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.240
<v Speaker 11>more will be impacted every day. And if the Greens

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 11>get their way and reduce the threshold, it'll get even worse.

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, Stephen ken Henry again. Look, it's not

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>near government. They keep turning to him, they keep turning

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to him, and jeez, what a shopping list.

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 6>He's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 12>I am tragically old enough to remember the debate in

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 12>Australia in nineteen eighty four and eighty five where Paul

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 12>Keating was barracking for what was referred to as Option C,

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 12>which was a broad based GST an Option A was

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 12>being back for by people like Peter Walsh. I was

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 12>a staffer and Ken Henry worked for David Morgan and

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 12>those two people, Ken Henry was the junior Treasury official

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.959
<v Speaker 12>back then to David Morgan, and Ken Henry helped write

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 12>Option C. Ken Henry has spent his entire working life

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 12>trying to get a tax on food from the GST,

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 12>and he has had many, many attempts to do it,

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 12>and every time he fails, and even when the Libs

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 12>and John Houston put it up in the nineties. I remember, Michael,

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.240
<v Speaker 12>and it was Houston was on GST on food. Michael

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 12>Kroger wrote to him back then as a young dynamo

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 12>of the Liberal Party and said, for God's sake, dropped

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 12>the GST on food. But let's not let that get

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 12>in the way of Ken Henry turning it up once again.

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 12>But more importantly, when you just know this, every time

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 12>a Liberal member of Parliament or candidate says tax reform,

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 12>that is code for we want to increase the rate

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 12>of the GST and we want to put a GC

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 12>on DNA. It's what they believe in at the no.

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 12>But I'm saying every time a Liberal says it, what

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 12>there is code for is we want to put the

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 12>gs up.

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 6>We want to put the GST on food. That's the

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 6>core DNA of every Liberal. Whoever says those words.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going to jump. Maggie. You can respond if you

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>wish on the other side of the break quick breakback

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>with more, but need to talk about including serious world affairs.

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Next here on put Murray Lot. Maggie Forrest is a lawyer.

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>At the last federal election, as she went for the

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>LMP in the seat of Ryan in Brisbane, Stephen Conery.

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>He's done with politics, but he's always here to help.

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's the Labor heart party at any time needs him.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now we can get back into the gst

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 1>of everything. But I think we can all assume you

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 1>will completely disagree with everything just said by Steven. But Maggie,

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk about insurance because it's something that,

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, major political parties don't have a handle

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>on because it is the market. It is more people

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>claiming more things than more expensive than ever before. But

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>according to the stories around today that there have been

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>more claims on insurance this year than the entirety of

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>last year. We know when it comes to extropical cyclone, Alfred,

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>insert every other natural disaster, but the reality is that

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>insurance premiums keep going up up. So how do we

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>ever handle this because at a certain point in time

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be the people who need it the

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>most who won't be able to either a access it or

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>be afford it. So please solve the entire insurance industry

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>for me in about forty five seconds. Thanks Paul.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's no surprise to me that insurance premium are

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 11>going up. The cost of everything is going up and

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 11>keeps going up under this Labor government. As the Real

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 11>National Party candidate for Ryan, people would complain to me

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 11>all the time, not only about their insurance premiums going up,

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 11>but the cost of groceries, feel absolutely everything. And I've

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 11>got absolutely no confidence that the current government has a

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 11>plan to reduce the cost of any of these things,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 11>including insurance.

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, so Stephen, let's turn to the global affairs

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of the day here, and look again, none of us

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>are inside any of the key players heads here. The

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>information is basically as public as it always is, which

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>is that you can glean the types of forces that

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>are at play here, principally around President Trump, and about

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>whether he steps it up now. Does he keep giving

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>weapons and further reassurances to Israel. One would imagine that's

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>going to continue. They've got the only bomb that even

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 1>if they had an awful lot of them, there's still

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a question mark about whether they can dig a hole

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>deep enough to get rid of all of the stuff

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>that's in and around Iran. But I did want to

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:04.959
<v Speaker 1>talk about the effect of powerful maga people who are

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>at their core for a whole bunch of reasons saying

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>don't go there. Why because it could be the beginning

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of Iraq or Afghanistan. Conversely, a whole bunch of people

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:15.720
<v Speaker 1>with even more national security experience saying, now's the time

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>do this and win it for Israel. What are your

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>thoughts about? Not what Trump will do, but again the

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>forces on him.

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 12>Now, Look, the Republicans have always had a strand of

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 12>them which is now magnified and strengthened by marga views

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 12>that what we call isolationists. Then there's always been what

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 12>you call them all mainstream. Sometimes you can call them hawks,

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 12>but I call them establishment Republicans. And they've always believed

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 12>that the prosperity and the success and growth in economies

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 12>has been based on the US's ability to build alliances

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 12>around the world to keep the world safe. And so

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 12>those competing views in general, let's build the world, we

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 12>get the sell mall goods. We've got to grow the wealth,

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 12>grow the prosperity of the world and particularly the US economy.

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 12>That's been the dominant paradigm in the Republicans. But there

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 12>is a very strong counter movement now where that pressure

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.280
<v Speaker 12>is enormous on Trump at the moment. And don't forget

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 12>he ran on a basis he'd be the president for peace.

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 12>He fixed Russia Ukraine in a day. He has spectacularly

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 12>failed that. We would love him to succeed, but he

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 12>spectacularly failed that. And he has empowered Yahoo now to

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 12>be fair net. Yahoo's military operation in Iran has been extraordinary.

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.359
<v Speaker 12>The ability to have troops on the ground, you know,

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 12>covert troops, working with spies, working with.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 6>People who want to see the fall.

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 12>Of the regime, and they have decimated the Iranian military

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 12>force within forty eight hours, Israel had air superiority over Iran.

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 6>That's an extraordinary feat.

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 12>By taking out the service to air missiles, by degrading

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 12>their capacity, they've changed the game. And so there is

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 12>a unique opportunity that no one thought could be there

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 12>to take out all of the work being done by

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 12>the Iranians. And that facility we've been talking about is

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 12>probably the Crown Dual because the Uranians of poor day

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 12>resources in there thinking it was indestructible. To your point earlier,

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 12>there has been a lot of discussion on this for

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 12>the last ten years, whether or not any troops on

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 12>the grounds, and again that then comes to get inside

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 12>that facility. So that has really opened up that chasm

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 12>in the Republican marga movement. At the moment, it is

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 12>a fascinating debate. I ultimately hope that the traditional establishment

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 12>hawks win and those isolationists come to understand that America's

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.799
<v Speaker 12>influence in the world has led to prosperity for America.

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to jump Maggie. I'll give you a

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>chance to finish this off here and get the last

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>word about again, all the pressures that are there on

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a US president who would love to be hands off,

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>but because he's got the bomb, means he might have

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to get hands on.

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 11>Yes, Paul, I think it's clear President Trump's pursuing an

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 11>America First policy, But with his recent comments, it's also

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.439
<v Speaker 11>clear that he believes Iran are very close to having

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 11>nuclear capability. And I think then if he's able to

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 11>create a narrative and convince the American people that it

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 11>is in America's best interest to get involved in the

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 11>conflict in the Middle East, then he absolutely will.

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Good on you, Maggie, got on you, Stephen. We'll talk

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you all again very soon. Quick breakback with more with

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>an example of a politician act accidentally telling the truth.

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I love this story more in a second. And we

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>all know politicians just every dow and then accidentally just

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 1>tell a little bit of a lie every now and there. Well,

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a former politician who is about to take a

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>certain role of responsibility inside the news world's liberal parties,

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>sitting a bomb above, trying to work out what's been

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 1>going wrong for them at the state level, which feeds

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.399
<v Speaker 1>into the federal level. His names Nick Rhner. It used

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to be a politician and I think ninety's was the

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Premier of New South Wales, former national president of the

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party. Well, he is now the Chair of Inquiry

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 1>looking into the problems of the Liberal Party and he

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>did an interview about it this morning on the ABC

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 1>And jeez, isn't he really enthused to have the job.

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:52.280
<v Speaker 13>Called internally focused sort of job. There are various internal

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 13>pressure groups perfectly obvious in all major political parties. I

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 13>tried to get out of it, but they met me

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 13>at Auckland Airport yesterday morning at four thirty am and

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 13>I was I was weak.

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really want to do it. I was tired.

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>It was Auckland Airport. How many stories start like that.

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It was tired, and it was Auckland Airport. It was

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 1>four point thirty in the morning. Dot dot dot God

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:19.760
<v Speaker 1>love you said to borrow